Thank You, Thank you, Thank You!!! I listen to our post, and share within my church community here in Phoenix, Arizona USA. I would really appreciate it if your husband shared his post in English, so we can understand them. May God give wide spread to your ministry, it is so needed by the church preparing for the second advent of Christ. Renee
Several years ago, Pastor Gill from 3ABN gave a sermon on this subject & what he explained made a lot of common sense to me. He explained that during Paul’s time the churches had men set on one side of the church & the women sat on the other side. During study time they had a curtain down the middle. The men & women studied separately. But when the women wanted another explanation or opinion on something, they would pull the curtain aside & disrupt the men. It was a customer for that time because of the situation. That was the circumstances when he said for women to be silent in church, to wait & ask their questions at home. It’s about time someone spoke out about women’s position in this day & age. Men are the priests of the church & their own families, not the women. Act like priests, you men, so the women don’t have to step into that position!!!
Silence can be golden.. In my past relationships with men I always had to have the last say and get the last word in but it caused so much friction in my past relationships.... God is healing me now but I would rather be quiet now unless God wants me to speak in a gentle way..😊 I get asked to pray in my church sometimes...there's always work for women to do, but we are wired different from men and therfore our roles are different.... Cooking is my specialty in my church....healthy vegan food ..
Conclusion is we support the men in their work, we commit ourselves fully in our families to raise up Righteous seed & We teach &Mentor other young woman. Also as needed we fill the important ministerial places That are left empty because our men are *otherwise occupied* and abandon their guard post.. ps: EGW was called after two men rejected the same call.. A woman has to step in as the head of her house, when the man steps out , Is it not the same for the Church? Should God have to raise up rocks .. lord help us
I've seen to many churches ran by women in every denomination. It comes from feminism being planted in eve by satan. The Bible speaks about women ruling in the last days.
This quote says pastors as well as lay members... don't think it only refers to men... May the Lord bless this ministry you are doing, may it go forward and may you never stop speaking! *Blow the trumpet in a clear tone - Many do not understand the prophecies concerning these days, and these people need to be enlightened. Both watchmen [pastors] and lay members have a duty to sound the trumpet with a clear tone. Be persistent: "Shout aloud, do not stop! Lift up your voice like a trumpet, and proclaim to my people their transgressions, and to the house of Jacob its sins."* - Heb 194.4
Praise the LORD 🙏🙏🙏 God’s blessings to you dear sister for the Present Truth ❣️❣️❣️ Spiritual things are only spiritual ly decerned The LORD can use anyone
with this video you have fallen into your own trap: you consider Paul literally when he is talking about head covering and not when he is talking about women being silent in the church
The boldness of women quietens men, that is why women should cover their glory/wisdom/mouth. God as a Helper of Israel covers His glory so that we are not consumed. A woman led a man to sin, so we have to check ourselves😊 1 Timothy 2:12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. James 3:6 The tongue also is a fire, a world of evil among the parts of the body. It corrupts the whole body, sets the whole course of one’s life on fire, and is itself set on fire by hell. Paul knew the troubles of speaking with boldness and he is a sisters' keeper. He cares about the sisters, he is protecting his weak sisters in strength from weak brothers in self-control. We need coverings, your brother, your husband, a piece of cloth on the head but the best is the covering of the Head/Jesus=Humility. Let us take up our position at the feet of Jesus😊
@@mathiswonderful I agree that women should not be silent. but I do not agree that she should cover her head. That depends of the culture. Why do our men today do not have beards? because we have accepted the custom of the Romans to shave it off
@@mathiswonderful head covering is not a doctrine to be literally understood, but a PRINCIPLE that should be accepted. And the principle is: modesty, moderation, decency, appropriateness. If you want to be different from the prostitutes of today, you should not wear mini leather skirts, nor over-the-knee boots, nor fishnet stockings , heavy make-up, jewelry etc. Remember the film Pretty woman?
Thank you. I really respect your insights. A curious question Re: the 144,000 Since they will be priests (male) and kings (male), I have always considered women excluded. What think you?
While you have made a good argument for women speaking (I affirm that), I believe you haven't yet answered the "silence in church" clause. Every example given was not in a "church" setting. I suppose that where 2 or 3 are gathered God is there to bless...still a stretch.
My friend won't do the footwashing because he thinks that the instruction is a tradition for the culture then. Another example to consider: John 13:14 "Now that I, your Lord and Teacher, have washed your feet, you also should wash one another's feet." Jesus' sheep know His voice and they obey. When Abraham was asked to offer his son, he obeyed. A piece of cloth on the head is to remind us to ask permission from authority: husband or brother for accountability purposes. Dinah, an independent woman, was raped because she had no protection/covering. Covering is for taming/restraining our pride/protecting our glory from dust😊, keeping us in our position and dust free Head Covering Head is Jesus/Humility, your husband or brother We cover each other with Jesus. We protect Him (whatever we do, bring glory to Him, we are not to be attention seekers, 'see me') and He protects/covers us
Considering this verses 1 Timothy 2:8, 1 Timothy 2:11,13 1Cor14:33-35 1Cor14:1-5 and 1Cor 11:1-3. Are women allowed to preach in church? And pls a agree about them prophesying but what about to be teachers?
She is mixing issues that are totally separate - taking quotes out of context. Prophesying and announcing the resurrection etc are no reasons to nullify the biblical roles for women. We simply need to learn to stand on plain '... thus saith the Lord...' All the gymnastics people do to twist scriptures simply serve to expose inherent rebellion against divine instruction
@danielchidaushe1559 I love her even how he present his studies but let pray for her that she may be able to differentiate the role of women in church and outside of the church
Judges 4 and 5, else my free informal essay on Deborah. A Judge was cleared to teach from scripture as he/she gave a verdict, according to Deuteronomy. Since in Judges 4, men went to Deborah to be judged, a woman could teach men, even in the Old Covenant in a public setting.
@Szpak-123 yeah there was Deborah and also Jael the woman who killed King Sisera in judges chapter 4. But that's was not the plan of God. Read judges 4:1,2 that the children of Israel did evil against the Lord that's he allowed the women to rule over them. Also read Hebrews 11:32 with all the work that the women did apostle Paul recognize only Barrack
@Szpak-123 and my question is, are women allowed to be teachers in church. Not outside the church like in streets or on social media? And don't think am against Ellen white. I accept her coz she was a prophetess and the role of prophet is applicable to both genders
Men and women have their duties and responsibilities in God's plan of salvation. Women can speak the word of God, and many examples in Scriptures is given. However, Paul, by inspiration of God with those verses you started your message was dealing with issues of the time, "women usurp authority of men in church leadership. God did not ordain women to be in leadership role. God created Adam first, representing the human Christ, and Eve after from the rib of Adam. God did not create Eve the same way as Adam, but from part of Adam. The creation of Eve represent the church. You missunderstood these texts and missapplied both Scriptures and SOP to support your theory.
Woman can share the gospel to everyone. But the Bible don't serporting woman pastor's or Elders. Ellen white did not, took the pastoral pasesion in the church. Ellen white said, God chose His man to do His work. Yes the woman must preach among woman. It's fine if woman are serving in Sabbath School, and other positions in the church. Pastor or Elders are not allowed. Thank you my sister. God bless.
Thank You, Thank you, Thank You!!! I listen to our post, and share within my church community here in Phoenix, Arizona USA. I would really appreciate it if your husband shared his post in English, so we can understand them. May God give wide spread to your ministry, it is so needed by the church preparing for the second advent of Christ. Renee
Several years ago, Pastor Gill from 3ABN gave a sermon on this subject & what he explained made a lot of common sense to me. He explained that during Paul’s time the churches had men set on one side of the church & the women sat on the other side. During study time they had a curtain down the middle. The men & women studied separately. But when the women wanted another explanation or opinion on something, they would pull the curtain aside & disrupt the men. It was a customer for that time because of the situation. That was the circumstances when he said for women to be silent in church, to wait & ask their questions at home.
It’s about time someone spoke out about women’s position in this day & age. Men are the priests of the church & their own families, not the women. Act like priests, you men, so the women don’t have to step into that position!!!
Silence can be golden..
In my past relationships with men I always had to have the last say and get the last word in but it caused so much friction in my past relationships....
God is healing me now but I would rather be quiet now unless God wants me to speak in a gentle way..😊
I get asked to pray in my church sometimes...there's always work for women to do, but we are wired different from men and therfore our roles are different.... Cooking is my specialty in my church....healthy vegan food ..
Conclusion is we support the men in their work, we commit ourselves fully in our families to raise up Righteous seed & We teach &Mentor other young woman. Also as needed we fill the important ministerial places That are left empty because our men are *otherwise occupied* and abandon their guard post.. ps: EGW was called after two men rejected the same call.. A woman has to step in as the head of her house, when the man steps out , Is it not the same for the Church? Should God have to raise up rocks .. lord help us
Thank you, may God bless you
May God bless you too
Amen sis! From another sister. Keep speaking truth. 🙏🏽👆🏾
Thank you my sister and God bless you
I've seen to many churches ran by women in every denomination. It comes from feminism being planted in eve by satan. The Bible speaks about women ruling in the last days.
Preach always with English,so everyone will have apportunity to watch and listen ❤
This quote says pastors as well as lay members... don't think it only refers to men... May the Lord bless this ministry you are doing, may it go forward and may you never stop speaking!
*Blow the trumpet in a clear tone - Many do not understand the prophecies concerning these days, and these people need to be enlightened. Both watchmen [pastors] and lay members have a duty to sound the trumpet with a clear tone. Be persistent: "Shout aloud, do not stop! Lift up your voice like a trumpet, and proclaim to my people their transgressions, and to the house of Jacob its sins."* - Heb 194.4
Blessings dear sister‼️😍❤️👍🙏✝️🎉
Praise the LORD 🙏🙏🙏
God’s blessings to you dear sister for the Present Truth ❣️❣️❣️
Spiritual things are only spiritual ly decerned
The LORD can use anyone
with this video you have fallen into your own trap: you consider Paul literally when he is talking about head covering and not when he is talking about women being silent in the church
The boldness of women quietens men, that is why women should cover their glory/wisdom/mouth. God as a Helper of Israel covers His glory so that we are not consumed. A woman led a man to sin, so we have to check ourselves😊
1 Timothy 2:12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
James 3:6 The tongue also is a fire, a world of evil among the parts of the body. It corrupts the whole body, sets the whole course of one’s life on fire, and is itself set on fire by hell.
Paul knew the troubles of speaking with boldness and he is a sisters' keeper. He cares about the sisters, he is protecting his weak sisters in strength from weak brothers in self-control.
We need coverings, your brother, your husband, a piece of cloth on the head but the best is the covering of the Head/Jesus=Humility. Let us take up our position at the feet of Jesus😊
@@mathiswonderful I agree that women should not be silent. but I do not agree that she should cover her head. That depends of the culture. Why do our men today do not have beards? because we have accepted the custom of the Romans to shave it off
@@mathiswonderful head covering is not a doctrine to be literally understood, but a PRINCIPLE that should be accepted. And the principle is: modesty, moderation, decency, appropriateness. If you want to be different from the prostitutes of today, you should not wear mini leather skirts, nor over-the-knee boots, nor fishnet stockings , heavy make-up, jewelry etc. Remember the film Pretty woman?
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Multiple translations state that the hair is the 'covering'. I have
more on this should you want it.
Amen! Very contradictorios topic , even in nowadays …
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Blessings
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Don't forget the Roman soldiers, was the first to see the resurrection of Christ before Marie.
God bless you ❤️❤️❤️🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
God bless you too
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Thank you.
I really respect your insights.
A curious question Re: the 144,000
Since they will be priests (male) and kings (male), I have always considered women excluded.
What think you?
Yes, woman are allowed to speak from God’s word.
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Amen!
God bless you
Amén 🙏
Do women allowed to preach in church not outside the church??
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God be with you
While you have made a good argument for women speaking (I affirm that), I believe you haven't yet answered the "silence in church" clause. Every example given was not in a "church" setting. I suppose that where 2 or 3 are gathered God is there to bless...still a stretch.
I appreciate your explanation. But I think you did not address the substantive issues. You did not explain the texts you quoted at the beginning
Thank you for your message
Is 1 Cor 11:15 literal or is her husband her covering? Does our head have to be covered? Or is it the meekness of heart that matters to the Lord?!
My friend won't do the footwashing because he thinks that the instruction is a tradition for the culture then.
Another example to consider: John 13:14 "Now that I, your Lord and Teacher, have washed your feet, you also should wash one another's feet."
Jesus' sheep know His voice and they obey. When Abraham was asked to offer his son, he obeyed.
A piece of cloth on the head is to remind us to ask permission from authority: husband or brother for accountability purposes. Dinah, an independent woman, was raped because she had no protection/covering.
Covering is for taming/restraining our pride/protecting our glory from dust😊, keeping us in our position and dust free
Head Covering
Head is Jesus/Humility, your husband or brother
We cover each other with Jesus. We protect Him (whatever we do, bring glory to Him, we are not to be attention seekers, 'see me') and He protects/covers us
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Multiple translations state that the hair is the 'covering'. I have
more on this should you want it.
Amen 🙏
Blessings
Considering this verses 1 Timothy 2:8, 1 Timothy 2:11,13 1Cor14:33-35 1Cor14:1-5 and 1Cor 11:1-3. Are women allowed to preach in church? And pls a agree about them prophesying but what about to be teachers?
She is mixing issues that are totally separate - taking quotes out of context. Prophesying and announcing the resurrection etc are no reasons to nullify the biblical roles for women. We simply need to learn to stand on plain '... thus saith the Lord...' All the gymnastics people do to twist scriptures simply serve to expose inherent rebellion against divine instruction
@danielchidaushe1559 I love her even how he present his studies but let pray for her that she may be able to differentiate the role of women in church and outside of the church
Judges 4 and 5, else my free informal essay on Deborah.
A Judge was cleared to teach from scripture as he/she gave a verdict, according to Deuteronomy. Since in Judges 4, men went to Deborah to be judged, a woman could teach men, even in the Old Covenant in a public setting.
@Szpak-123 yeah there was Deborah and also Jael the woman who killed King Sisera in judges chapter 4. But that's was not the plan of God. Read judges 4:1,2 that the children of Israel did evil against the Lord that's he allowed the women to rule over them. Also read Hebrews 11:32 with all the work that the women did apostle Paul recognize only Barrack
@Szpak-123 and my question is, are women allowed to be teachers in church. Not outside the church like in streets or on social media? And don't think am against Ellen white. I accept her coz she was a prophetess and the role of prophet is applicable to both genders
Men and women have their duties and responsibilities in God's plan of salvation. Women can speak the word of God, and many examples in Scriptures is given. However, Paul, by inspiration of God with those verses you started your message was dealing with issues of the time, "women usurp authority of men in church leadership. God did not ordain women to be in leadership role. God created Adam first, representing the human Christ, and Eve after from the rib of Adam. God did not create Eve the same way as Adam, but from part of Adam. The creation of Eve represent the church. You missunderstood these texts and missapplied both Scriptures and SOP to support your theory.
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Blessings
Woman can share the gospel to everyone. But the Bible don't serporting woman pastor's or Elders. Ellen white did not, took the pastoral pasesion in the church. Ellen white said, God chose His man to do His work. Yes the woman must preach among woman. It's fine if woman are serving in Sabbath School, and other positions in the church. Pastor or Elders are not allowed. Thank you my sister. God bless.
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