How Success KILLED An Awesome Street Fighter Character
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- Опубликовано: 7 фев 2025
- Evil Ryu is one of Street Fighter's coolest characters and it's not hard to see why. He strikes a chord that resonates with everyone as all of us have entertained what it'd be like to give into the devil on your shoulder,. When you pair that relatable theme with the kinds of badass beat downs he dishes out and you get a character who's seen a slow but effective burn over the years. Unfortunately, Capcom's execution of the latest version of Evil Ryu might have wound up being a straight up execution of the character himself, thanks to some, shall we say unthoughtful storytelling that completely deflates everything cool the character has ever been.
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Capcom should give us Shin Ryu with him using the Power of Nothingness.
Are you talking about Shin Ryu from the udon comics? Yeah I hope that happens as well. That would be a pretty dope character.
The power of nothingness should be renamed the power of emptiness, and Ryu should also possess the power of the void, which would basically be similar to the satsui no hado, except without the murderous intent; he should also gain the ability of transformation into different form changes, similar to Sora in Kingdom Hearts 3; for Ryu's first form change, he can tap into the power of emptiness at its full extent; for his second form change, Ryu can combine the power of emptiness and the power of the void; and for his third form change, Ryu can tap into the power of the void at its full extent, particularly when he's low on health, similar to Sora's Rage Form in Kingdom Hearts 3.
@@FabioZapata-n4p Idk, that would be too much imo
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idk about all of that fanfiction but that's plus one vote for Shin Ryu in general
Sounds like a final boss character. A good Ryu that has reached Nirvana and tests the other world warriors
Keeping Evil Ryu as a non-cannon character would have been better
Yeah I think they -could- have written him in more effectively, but it would have been before Ryu actually figured everything out. Given where the actual story is now, outside of alternate timeline stuff, I think non-canonical is the best bet.
@@EventHubs the purpose of evil ryu was to show us what ryu would be like if he followed the path of the Satsui No hado
He's essentially a mirroring to how Akuma/Gouki became Akuma/Gouki (evil ryu Alpha 3 story lay this down perfectly)
Canon.
SF4 had like 10 Shootos. this is Beyond Ridiculous..
@@npsavat6799 sf5 also had too many shotos.
They need to have less of those
You seem to have misinterpreted the point of Ryu's character arc where he doesn't want to use the Satsui no Hado for evil purposes. That's why Kage was vanquished, because it was meant to drive out the evil that still resided within him. He still uses Satsui no Hado for attacks like Denjin Hadouken, but he doesn't use enough of it to the point it overtakes him. Kage may have been unnecessary, but narratively he's fine and nowhere near as bad as people say.
Let's not forget the Shakunetsu Hadouken, too. In SFV he stops using it since it's pretty closely tied to the SNH, but in SFIII and SFVI he's back to using it. I love how that mirrors how Ryu is on the path to overcoming it in V, and has mastered and overcome it in III and VI.
Denjin Hadoken comes actually from the Power of Nothingness, instead. Gouken fully mastered this power, and he uses this technique as a super in SFIV. Also, in SF6, Ryu can use this power to give electric properties to most of his specials and supers.
Satsui no Hado means killing intent, it's something Ryu does not want around
It's like what Akuma says in 6's World Tour "He's a warrior who accepts the natural existence of the killing intent, yet refuses to acknowledge it as part of himself", which I always took to mean that Ryu simply refuses to let the Satsui no Hado rule his nature even if he recognizes that it'll always be there (which is consistent with how he treats Kage in V: As someone who is born from his inner nature, yet is by all accounts a separate entity).
Evil Ryu would be played just as much as the Akuma army
In all the shoto Evil Ryu was my favorite. So i plead guilty.
I want psycho power violent ken in sf6.
YES THIS, it would make the most sense now in the story since Ken is down on his luck and may be seeking some kind of vengeance against JP for ruining his life. I don't want Capcom to back pedal on how they handled Evil Ryu/Kage. So if we want another evil shoto, Violent Ken is the answer.
As long as it makes sense, fine
@@carlosaugusto9821 I think is a good time with all the psycho power experimentation and "infusion" in the world tour. And also the fact that Ken is in a really bad place in his personal story.
Both, evil Ryu and violent Ken i want this 2 characters
Evil Ryu would print money for capcom just like Akuma is
Agreed
A dilemma between gameplay fanservice and cash vs storytelling goals (that is a kind of fanservice)... That is a problem that I believe that will only grow in fg franchises as they move on in their stories. Similar to when a character is removed because he retired or died in the story. The creators want to develop stories and their own worlds (and that's why the whole genre is current this way and not with the barebones story model of SF2 anymore) but some story decisions have implications to gameplay and roster building.
@@carlosaugusto9821yeah I'm thinking that while it's fine for Stories to move on, the reality is that some people just want to play their character. Like I think t8 should bring back Heihachi as a literal ghost just haunting and clowning on people. I think the suggestion of doing something like a "Shin Ryu" simply re working his toolset could be good, making an entirely new character that is a successor, or just hamfistedly saying he's alternate universe/ non canonical are all fine, but I think just seeing him on screen would be fine. That said, we already have 4 shotos in SF6, so he would be kind of redundant, would rather have Sakura since she represents some variety. They would have to give him some new identity.
@@erichthegraham Speaking of Heihachi... He's back. lol
Here is the thing, though. Ryu did reject the Satsui no Hadou. That was the entire point of his journey up to SFV.
Plus, Kage isn't supposed to be manifesting physically in his story, but rather as an internal struggle that all three characters face. Ryu utterly rejects him, Akuma knows how to keep him under control and Sagat is just starting to feel the effects of the Satsui no Hadou. If I'm not mistaken, even Sagat's own story mode in SFV shows him starting to feel the bloodthirst brought on by the Satsui no Hadou
Exactly, Kage is a shadow, it's not a physical entity, It's like a demon that you can face if you have contact with the satsui no hado somehow. Even though he's a playable character he is not physical.
Feel like Kage should been the ethereal being Ryu was fighting against in the SF5 main story instead of Necalli. You'd have to jump through some hoops to make it plausible as to why there's a second Ryu walking around, but you have to admit that substituting Necalli for Evil Ryu would have made Ryu's story arc that much more meaningful once he learns how to balance the Power Of Nothingness with the Satsui No Hado.
This would have worked way better, really hated how Necalli went out lol. 💩
Kage has no physical form. He exists only in the astral/spiritual plane.
A canonical version of the evil ryu boss fight quote "This is it, if I defeat myself I am complete!"
Violent Ken would make the most sense now in the story since Ken is down on his luck and may be seeking some kind of vengeance against JP for ruining his life. I don't want Capcom to back pedal on how they handled Evil Ryu/Kage. So if we want another evil shoto, Violent Ken is the answer.
Evil Ryu in SF6 style would be dope. An older ryu that descended way more into darkness, with wild hair and stuff as a counterpart to beard ryu. They could just put him as a non canonical character, but after Kage I doubt it now.
Kage was capcom having their cake and eating it too. I wouldnt be surprised if we see Kage again down the line in SF6
Kage felt like a different character when compared to Evil Ryu. Evil Ryu was filled with rage, where Kage felt like an edgy teen.
I honestly think Evil Ryu shouldn't be in 6. Shin Ryu is a better idea because Ryu is getting older and will most likely get his own student that will have his or her own struggles with the satui no hado.
Just like Dark Sakura
Yeah,keep him in the what if category. Kage was a slap in the face.
Ryu has completely overcame the Satsui No Hado
You know who the devs should add in SF6, though? Violent Ken.
It'd be perfect. Especially considering he's going through so much strife right now.
Such a dumb name lol
The story looks like it's building up to him
@@sptflcrw8583 Yeah, it should be Naughty Ken! And he gets mad if you put him in timeout at the corner so he flows purple as hes getting his ass kicked! He gets Bison's psycho crusher too as a super and can use the stomp from full screen to help with his pressure so he can cancel the stomp into his run into jinrai kicks to help his mixup game since it obviously needs help too. Oh and a double air fireball he can do while jumping backwards for defence
I think we'll get him. New fight pass added his theme song along with evil ryus, and his story is literally him debating on to kill JP and all that. And with all the new psycho powers characters coming... I think it's safe to say he'll definitely return
What is Velociraptor talking about? Ryu’s story was about overcoming the Satsui not striking a balance. The power of nothingness and hado are complete opposites, requiring two completely different mindsets to be achieved. One can’t use the other. Roosevelt’s quote can still apply, if not moreso to just the power of nothingness since it is actually more powerful than the satsui No hado, it just takes longer to master.
Kage was underwhelming on his own, but he served a key narrative device for Ryu’s growth by showing moving beyond the pettiness of short term gratification and a fear of failing.
The satsui no hado is a metaphor for our fragile egos and making a bigger deal out of winning and losing and using any means for instant catharsis. , whilst the power of nothingness represents the slow journey, enjoying the process and eventually attaining greater heights than you could’ve shortcutting your way through.
Evil Ryu may be gone but I personally find it quite bold and inspired by Capcom for committing to the character arc they crafted for Ryu, by erasing his ties to hado and moving him forward.
Tht is an angle I've never thought that could be taken from Ryu of all characters and I love that interpretation. Best comment.
Kage's moves, mechanics, and playstyle are SO far from the other shotos, I'm still hoping Kage can show up as a Devil-Jin esque character in future games. Lemme stomp!
If we cant have Evil Ryu then can we have Evil Sakura?
YES PLEASE I THOUGHT I WAS ALONE ON THIS MATE dude she was struggling to make bank in her story she’s at a point where she ain’t know what to do with her life since Ryu is old maybe Akuma can set his eyes on her and manipulate her
She's in Marvel vs. Street Fighter
@@stale_cheeto yeah but sun burn is kinda lame story it would be nice if they gave some tragedy behind it and make it canon in 6
@@medium.fuharen-kr2qs we don't need dark Sakura at all,it's dumb
@@SupportGamin2025 how is it dumb bringing back a normal sakura with the same move set is dumb your telling me after 20 year time skip she still has the same rip off Ryu moves when she had time to train? Plus her win quote against Akuma says “is this truly how you become strong? Maybe I should change a few things” some thing along those lines which points at her having the idea to turn evil and she shares the same goal as Akuma to become stronger and she’s already at a point of her in her chart story in sf5 she doesn’t know what to do with her life and Ryu still won’t train her
they could simply say Kage is the manifestation of the satsui no hado fighting back against Ryu who simply learned to activate the power of nothingness but didnt truly master it. this is common idea in many shounen style stories, when characters reach a new plateau of power, one believes they have mastered it but its never 100% in its effectiveness. they could easily design the next Kage appearance to be more in line with the expectation of how Evil Ryu looks.
maybe have a sort of Jekyl & Hyde sort of internal struggle that leaks into the real world with him going between both forms until he learns what he is doing wrong, and that he cant force the merger of the two forces through meditation. Perhaps they come to an understanding and willfully merges the second time around. We can always have Evil Ryu show up in non-canon instances but storywise Ryu is Ryu, master of nothingness.
I enjoy these lore exploration videos.
Great to hear it
I like Evil Ryu for essentially the same yet opposite reason why I like regular flavor Ryu. The real Ryu keeps me grounded as a player by reminding me that self-improvement and creating bonds is the end goal, rather than winning in and of itself, which is a concept that I feel is both relatable and timeless. Evil Ryu, on the other hand, represents the innate tendency of all players to only feel satisfaction through conclusive victory. Even their movesets reflect this, as Ryu has simple, yet contextually effective moves that requires the player to excercise patience to properly read the opponent due to his lack of all-around powerful tools. Evil Ryu, especially by IV and V, follows the Akuma rule of having a playstyle that revolves around crafting suffocating offence with his wide variety of dominant tools, as backing off to take stock of the situation only invites the foe to adapt and take advantage of Evil Ryu's lack of defense.
lmaoo that home alone reference jeezzz im old
I thought that the reason Ryu, Sagat, and Akuma disregarded Kage, because Kage thrives off of violence, anger, and hatred. It’s kind of like that saying “The devil is only as powerful as you believe him to be” or “Don’t give the devil any attention” which the 3 fighters seem to follow.
"Neutral not making sense? You're probably in the most difficult stage of learning Street Fighter 6, here's how to overcome it. 'Proper neutral doesn't exist" = Faust vs Milla Rage.........-_-
Ryu: don’t get me angry, you wouldn’t like me when I’m angry
Street fighter VII will have a multiverse of kages, with shadow lady and Nash's shadow being canonically added to the roster. Everybody who tapped the Satsui no Hadou will come to the game, so we already have Dan confirmed!!!
Daigo? Sako was the OG evil ryu before he got crazy buffed in ultra. Watching sako combo people for days with evil ryu was dope the shit.
He battles his demons and one. It's nice to have an arc end. Akuma is the evil Shotoclone that gave in to Violence, Ryu confronted it and didn't let it consume him.
To the home, to the room, to the living room! KAGE!
The strongest legacy of this character, like it or not
Imagine if Kazuya attained True Devil status and nobody in-universe paid much attention to it
That’s pretty much how Kage was handled
why didnt they just make Kage manifest before Ryu's resolution like a prequel? they could have made him manifest and then go into hiding before reappearing.
they had to reason to make him be integrated into the story post-ending
EvilRyu is a what if character fighter while Kage is Canon. Having 2-Ryu in one game is likely make the other Ryu go obsolete for the better Ryu like in SF4 case.
For Narrative analogy
Ryu is too old for that kind of *struggle*, Many are glad that Ryu had already become what he should had been.
For Canonical references
Long before SF4. The SF3 Canonical story tells us he already became stronger and powerful than Evil Ryu. The Evil Shoto throne should be solely for Akuma it's time to move move on.. for the better future. Necalli Absorbing Kage and becoming one character merge and fused from 2 Ryu rivals that challenge Ryu every now and then
Here is the thing, Kage is a shadow, it's not a physical entity, It's like a demon that you can face if you have contact with the satsui no hado somehow. Even though he's a playable character he is not physical.
Seems better to say "resigned" rather that killed. Reason why is because Capcom could make a form of Ryu parallel to Evil Ryu based off the Power of Nothingness, if they wanted to and could make sense of it.
4th season DLC character isn't in the next game on release:
"Character is DEAD!?"
In this case, Kage/Evil Ryu is dead.
@@MartezDGoat Maybe/maybe not. Who the heck knows, SF6 has literally had 2 DLC characters.
there really isn't a story related reason to keep the character around anymore imo, i feel the same way about devil Jin in Tekken and even if the writing there is better it will feels unnecessary to have that character still be around in Tekken if they're trying to have Jin be a hero again
Well if you think about it, this does make sense; as Evil Ryu was ultimately a side of Ryu that he would have to overcome. And on top of that, Kage was born due to Gouken sealing the Satsui No Hado within Ryu and is a physical manifestation of the darker aspects rather than the Hado itself, as Kage’s ultimate aim is to convince Ryu that he’s nothing without him and must give in to not only the Satsui No Hado but also the negative emotions that drive it.
I believe there is hope for Evil Ryu...hope that he'll bring fear and despair to all his opponents.
Whens Good Ryu
I say use evil ryu again but give him some traits from kage, like his raging demon, or his close up ex fireball traits, give him a mid range fireball like oni’s where he can charge like akuma in 6. Give evil ryu access to kage’s ex tatsu, a horizontal air fireball, a more classic teleport to set his apart from akuma, retain the kage crescent kick, give him akuma’s chop as well for the fun drive rush shenanigans. Simply put evolve the concept, maybe even grant him a new design to show how he would look at current ryu’s time. One thin that would be funny and cool is if this hypothetical evil ryu had a more relaxed persona, even more than akuma, as if his path was always going to ensure he would become a similar state to now
Another way I see could have been if Ryu had been 'devoured' by Necalli at the end of SFV and sort of had to fight his way out by overcoming his own internal struggles etc etc, but as a result of his stay inside Necalli he creates another version of Ryu, a clone if you will, that could serve as a Ryu shaped like the Silver Surfer to Necalli's Galactus, a herald of sorts that's Ryu but given over to the hunger. I'm not sure it would be more liked than what we had, but it would be a way to kind of skirt around the excising of Satsui no Hadou from Ryu... or maybe we could have him expel the Satsui no Hadou and replace it with Mu, as Ryu's way to escape Necalli's stomach and Necalli takes that power that was left inside him and molds it into Kage. Just... make it somewhat more impactful than Kage just showing up during a regular meditation-session.
Ryu is cleansed of the Satsui no Hado in Sf3 Timeframe so Evil Ryu Not existing makes sense
That’s fine, just bring in Violent Ken. He will fit right into the lore of SF6
What if we get Evil Sagat?
That would be so dope as a Sagat main 💯
I still love him to this day
That's simple, just add the character and that's it, all the game developers need to do is say "evil ryu is not canonically part of the story, he's just a treat for the fans" and that's it.
They bring back Evil Ryu as a actual clone of Ryu since Kage phased out of existence.
Honestly, when I was hitting those sick combos, I didn't care one bit about the story. As long as he's fun, bring Evil Ryu back
After seeing the Evil Ryu playthrough of Alpha 3 Max, keeping him as a non-canon character with a fun what-if storyline would have been the way to go. Adding horns, fangs, and awkward storytelling really cost Capcom a good thing and I can only hope we get a fix one day.
Story fix: Necalli attacks (possesses) Ryu. Ryu wakes up in a dark void, but, instead of a f***ing sheep, he sees a shadow-y clone of himself turn into Kage. The two have a meaningful battle. Ryu wins and wakes up. Ryu integrates the dark hadou. Necalli melts. The end.
Where does Nash fit in? That’s who saw the sheep. I mean it’s better in general except for that inconsistency. But just about anything is better than V’s story.
@@gtsavestheday6569Nash doesn't fit in. I'm talking about Ryu. I mentioned the sheep because that's how Necalli decided to present himself the last time he was in a dark void. This time, either he himself or the dark hadou manifest into Kage instead of the sheep.
@@Jr-Reed right, that’s how Necalli presented himself to Nash. He didn’t appear that way to Ryu.
@@gtsavestheday6569 **** off, dude 🙄 You understand my point clearly, but you keep yappin like you got something to prove.
@@Jr-Reed there’s no reason for get upset. You got the story wrong. I get it, story mode was shit anyways, I barely paid attention too. Just saying, if you’re doing rewrites you should probably understand what you’re rewriting.
For something different, they should make Psycho Ryu. As in a version where Bison actually gets his body or when he gets filled with Psycho Power.
we need violent ken evil ryu and a shadow lady dlc
We don't
Well maybe in a Street Fighter reboot Evil Ryu becomes a canon character.
They should bring back both characters Evil Ryu and Kage, Evil Ryu as a non canonical character and Kage as a canon character with some improvements.
He’s been on a downward spiral since the alpha games. 4 made him just some evil bloodlusted monster. And 5 turned it up and made him cartoonishly evil with no subtlety. I would like to see a return to the alpha version of the character with sf4’s look being the inspiration. I’m not really asking for it that much, but if he does come back. I would not be mad like most people here in the comments.
That is a problem because the SF story has to move on. People even were criticising the devs for dodging direct continuations of the story... It felt like the devs werent confident in just moving into the SF3/future timeline right away. So now we are finally getting on the right track, and ideally the story needs to keep moving foward from now on. And yeah, one natural unfortunate consequence is that an idea like Evil Ryu becomes less justified to appear again in a modern game in the current timeline.
Evil Ryu may be cooler, but, can you play him in the home, the room, or the living room?
You forgot about Alpha 3, Evil Ryu also appears in Street Fighter Alpha 3 and Street Fighter Alpha 3 Max.
Honestly I would love a Non-Cannonical, what-if, dream story that focused on alternative realities existing and how it would affect the world. Don't make it a cannon event but Rose gazes into these alternative realities and timelines to see what would become if these happened. So we could see them in the game but they will not be in the timeline we are focusing on. Evil Ryu, Violent Ken, heck how about a messiah Alex or a psycho-powered M-Bison possesses Cammy. We are in DLC rn so we can go wild with this concept.
1 suckish character tower doesn't mean character assassination. I would love for him and Necalli to come back
About the future of the character, it's a matter of how the devs are going to handle "game story and lore" vs "gameplay/roster appeal" (and better profits since it's all going to be dlc from now on). Sometimes fg devs decide to focus on story's logic and sometimes they decide to focus on appealing the fans, when building the roster. We will have to wait and see what the SF6 staff will decide.
Like in KOF, the debate seems to be fairly divided about the respect to lore and gameplay, about roster building. Because of extreme examples like the deaths of Shermie, Yashiro and Chris exactly in their debut in KOF 97, where they were popular in personality, story and gameplay... yet SNK actually stuck to the story logic and left them dead and out of all canon games (until the trio was revived for KOF 15). In the case of KOF, there was a couple of non canon games made in the past like KOF 98 and 02, where the trio appeared... otherwise they would have had that sole appearance in KOF 97, in old games. So there is some criticism in the community about how seriously a company has to take story when it can affect and restrict important roster decisions. And it's not hard to see that point, even though i personally like story and actual consequential developments. To me it's a real dilemma for the companies.
"Those light-up Disney horns"
😂😂😂
I have always wondered why Ken was never tempted by the Satsui No Hado
I hope they do something with that, cuz ken in SF6 says that he kinda wants to kill JP, so maybe a way to have violent ken is if ken got psycho power and satsui no hado, but canonically for a short time since itd overwhelm his body and mind, or as a boss character or something
@@HELLRAISER02 A Ken with BOTH Psycho Power AND the Satsui No Hado???
@@JoshuaLowe-ci3wo yeah itd be nuts, but i dont know how itd be justified since JP has no interest in capturing ken but i just think itd be cool to see a ken with the same normals, different target combos, purple psycho power, but like some domnic moves and supers, maybe make him a smiling maniac like urien or bryan fury
@@HELLRAISER02 speaking of Urien, imagine if Ken ever got brainwashed by the Secret Society/Illuminati....
@HELLRAISER02 speaking if Urien, maybe Ken could get captured by the secret society/illuminati and get put under Gill's power
I don't think they'll add Kage into SF6 thats for sure. But I think Kage can be salvaged in a future game where Kage is a more relevant character in a past timeline (and not an alternative universe)
Kage should of just been ryus VT2
Violent kens time to shine
For me it’s like people play the stories not just comp 😂😂
I could be wrong but I'm thinking we may see violent ken in sf6....especially with Ken and JP story. I think it would be dope
Street fighter 4 evil ryu was such a dope character
I really liked another youtuber's suggestion back in SFV. Evil Ryu could've been his V-Trigger 2, temporarily tapping into the Satsui, but still not letting it take over. Since you can choose the trigger at the beggining of the battle, you'd have a choice between Kyoi or Satsui, the same dillema Ryu faces in battle. It's a flavorful AND interesting solution to make Evil Ryu "canon".
Interesante
glad he's gone as he was overused.(do like the difference he has with jin kazama's devil form being mindless desire not controlling your hits while devil jin was a protection/desperation mode form when he was put in deadly situations like being shot by heihachi or what happened with azazel despite making 6's events pointless.)
the issue(alongside being a waste of a slot.) with kage is he really should've replaced necalli in the story as it would've been better having ryu meet a few other fighters(like sagat & sakura kasugano/heck even dan hibiki with his revenge towards sagat for his father talking about it & when he tried to be taught by gouken only to be rejected.) while away from the group.
then fight internally against his evil intent learning more to life remembering those he fought against how they dealt with desire that he becomes content destroying kage having better control of his desires(as evil ryu is from ryu's desire to win overtaking reasoning.) learning the power of nothingness to use his fist without going insane like how akuma(whose thing with oni is akuma holding to his humanity.)/sagat(who just went through controlling his anger from revenge.) keep their humanity showing they're above it as we don't need him to return or be forced like m. bison as the series has grown past them.
Kage sucks. Sagat acknowledging the Satsui no Hado as late as in SFV through him, which is when Ryu no longer struggles with the said power, was the dumbest idea ever. What did Sagat learn by learning about what Ryu was struggling with AFTER he came to terms with that power? Worst storywriting ever.
We just need Evil Sagat in sf6
💯
I couldn't be happier we need some form of progress, we can't keep recycling M.Bison AND the Evil Ryu deal. Since Bison is unfortunately still decaying on the shelf, we can move on in some form with Ryu.
Kage in theory fixed both sides of this since he isn't stapled to physically being Ryu, those people can have their violent Ken or anything they choose.
Honestly should only be Akuma now. Thats his thing
Maybe one possible solution (not absolute but better than nothing) would be going back to that idea from SF5 creating exclusive boss versions of existing chars like Shin Bison, Master Ryu, Shadow Lady, etc... Then bring back Evil Ryu as an exclusive boss in the future.
Another possible solution (unlikely but not impossible at all) is that future SF games go back to the idea of alternate versions like Super Turbo... but done specifically in the style of KOF 13, with different looks, more unique moveset, etc. And most importantly, those alt versions in KOF are not related to the story. So in a new SF game the alternate version of Ryu could be E. Ryu.
According to SF6 World Tour, Bison is apparently coming back so…
And also you forgot about Ultra Street Fighter 2 The Final Challengers he also appears there playable Evil Ryu.
Evil Ryu won't Kage will
Kage needs to steal himself a Ryu clone body from Shadaloo.
That would be perfect and it could bring the story full circle
Ryu following Gouken's path of mu no ken
Kage using a clone ryu body(Evil ryu) can follow the path of Akuma
This is great. Love the video
I believe you are mistaken Ryu was training to become better and he hast to see what his Darkside is so him seeing Kage is actually on brand for the character because at the time he wasn’t a master yet
This is my favourite SF character, and I hope they bring him back. Capcom please
I feel like with the inclusion of Sirn Akuma they have made a way to include more non-canonical characters. They are all just simulations of the real thing. However, I am still hoping for a canonical Evil Luke
I've never really thought about it before, but now I kinda wish Ryu's moveset in SF6 pulled a couple elements from Evil Ryu's to showcase that he'd mastered himself. Like, just giving him a similar teleport move with like a glowy effect instead of a shadowy one would have been epic.
As for Kage, I didn't like his magic horns, but they were no worse than SF4 Evil Ryu's gaping chest wound nonsense. And I'm not so sure that his story is canonical. Unless I remember incorrectly, Kage wasn't in the actual story mode, he just had a mini-story; essentially a standard arcade mode bit of fluff.
I know the rest of the characters' mini-stories were supposed to be canon moments before and/or after the main plot, but nothing about Kage's had any bearing on anything. So, I would imagine it'll be discarded if they ever want to bring the character back in some way.
Just give us violent Mel , or the kid ryu took care of in the alpha movie who turned
Imagine if Mel is finally playable. but his role is basically the opposite of Rock Howard and Adel. son of the hero but succumbed to the dark power.
but at least he didn't commit war crimes like Jin Kazama.
He doesn't have to be in the but could still appear as a playable character on the select screen!🎮
They should have made Ryu embrace and use some of E.Ryu’s powers, like Jin in T8 using Devil Jin moves (and I personally think they should have kept Devil Jin OUT OF THE GAME)
Ok where's e
Violent Ken,where's Shadow lady ??????????? Akuma Vs Violent Ken story mode,that's gold.
i think they could have done better with kage's story, one of the SFV mods ive seen was ryu vtrigger transforming him to kage and i think that would be cool for ryu to master and harness the satsui no hado and use it if he wanted and become kage for minute.
How is Evil Ryu a "awesome character" ? He's another shoto. Another broken low health character. He appealed the dude bros, but everyone else just clowned his edgey shoto BS. Shadow Jago and Omen are a much better story, and far more balanced.
Agreed. only standard shoto we need in SF are Ryu, Ken and Akuma. Gouken is fine because he didn't have typical normal dp. and his fireball and hurricane works different than typical shoto.
As a Ryu fan since 2 and the Alpha era... I'll be glad if Evil Ryu never returns unless Capcom finally decides to reboot the franchise as they continue to age the characters. It was cool in 4. 5... eh. I was over it before it even started.
Evil Ryu exploits the strong appeal in japanese entertainment pop culture about the "evil alter ego" or "berserk/altered mind alter ego" trope. There were some famous cases in old anime and other games, to the point it became a popular trope. He debuted in SFA, in a period when SF even became more anime than in SF2, and his popularity grew as the trope itself became more popular in animes and games.
And KOF has Orochi Iori and Orochi Leona, Samsho has Rasetsumaru (non canon), TK has Devil Jin, MK has Dark Raiden (and Zombie Lui Kang kinda counts), SC has Nightmare, etc... so that's spread over the fg genre. That's why i think the SF devs are conflicted about getting rid of the idea and moving on with the SF story and Ryu's story arc. I believe they might even start officially making a "non canon section" in the roster of modern games, making room for non canon chars just for the fan service (and easy dlc cash).
You are 100% right with this one.
Since Kage killed the character, and Ryu has leveled up, I'd love to see a new version that's buffed with the Power Of Nothingness, mixing Gouken Double fireballs and a soul cleanser anti- raging demon CA type move. Maybe that move could be something like a better version of what he destroyed Necalli with in SFV, or the protecting fireball beam he threw at Chun Li and Li Fen when they where escaping the Shadowloo base.
if the trade off for evil ryu being canon is hes weaker and less of a threat, he should just stay non-canon. whats the point if hes not going to stronger than ryu and make ppl speculate if hes stronger than some of the other powerhouses. takes all the fun out of his character.
even if in the canon story ryu has control and evil ryu isnt a possibility anymore, i think evil ryu could work really well in a what if storyline, just fledge it out more, i wanna see ryu's journey going down this path, how he interacts with everyone and how it goes.
We could potentially get an Evil Sagat
I wouldn't be mad about seeing Kage again i thought he was pretty cool. He doesn't need to have anything to do with the lore, especially now, but he had cool gameplay.
Y'all need to stop hating on Kage. For real. Shit is pathetic.
Whaaaat? Since when event hubs got a youtube channel?
What about evil ken or sagat?
Naaaah them treating kage like that was fitting, ryu is great because hes Ryu completely, of course they'd not take an incomplete version seriously
Sucks to not have Kage/Evil Ryu, but I guess this is great to not make Ryu a stale ass character.
I'd rather have Violent Ken as the "face turned heel" shoto than undo Ryu's character journey. The whole idea of Kage dying is Ryu rejecting the Hado and growing as a person, learning to enjoy every moment of a fight.
Evil Ryu honestly is better saved for side-games and I am happy for him to be left out of the main Street Fighter series. Ryu never entertained the dark hadou, and the storyline of him grappling with it in SF4 and SF5 was never believable because of SF3's existence. -the character had already developed past that arc.
Yeah, but the thing is that there is a powerful appeal over the entire youth pop culture about the idea of an evil version, or enraged version, or out of control version, or possessed version, or just a brutal alter ego. When we think about it, these things go really way back in different classic and newer animes, classic and newer games, etc... and classic SF is just one of the games influenced by classic anime (and the franchise even became radically more "anime" after SF2). And i get the feeling that there's an even stronger appeal if a "good boy" gets one of those versions, or just a cold guy gets a version that is a totally different personality and behavior... Like exactly Ryu in SF, Jin in TK and Leona in KOF (the most popular in "Orochi form").
So i get the feeling that SF will never abandon Evil Ryu from the franchise, exactly because of his overall impact in fg culture and in the SF community. There's even the fact that the devs made a brand new impressive version for him in SF4, which was an introduction to so many SF fans. To me it's not impossible that the devs decide to formally set a room for non canon chars in the roster of all sequels... so things story and lore dont become too inconvenient and restrictive in the future regarding roster building decisions.
@@carlosaugusto9821 to me, Akuma is that character, and he is evil ryu. I'd like all focus to be the canon story in the line. But what what if Ryu really was evil in sf7, or Ken? Sakura or Sean?. That could be an interesting development, what of Akuma took a pupil?. Evil Ryu as is a side story and fanservice which is why I like him in side games.
Capcom's point of making Evil ryu is to basically show us how Akuma became the character he is today Essentially.
Evil ryu's whole story is a mirror of akuma,what if ryu ended up on the same path