Truckin Vlog #28 Do I buy a pre-emission truck or go get a brand new truck?
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- Опубликовано: 6 ноя 2020
- Discussing my opinion on the pros and cons of buying a new truck vs buying an older truck.
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The older trucks will always be in demand. The new ones are all over priced through away junk .👍
New trucks will always be around it can be bought after establishing yourself and ur finances. Older truck is a good way for a new owner op, 2007 and older to avoid DEF and DPF. Top 3 engines to consider Detroit 60 series, most caterpillar motors and Cummins N-14 motor. Suit & tie guys can't take older truck from u cause u got title in hand, but let them find out ur near completion of lease on ur new truck and suddenly u see less work for u from dispatch, u can't make ur payment and b4 u know it ur keys are gone, and the next sucker fresh out of school is signing the dotted line to take your keys and the potential dpf problems u used to have when u drove that truck...if u are gonna buy brand new truck have 10 yrs exp, pay $150+ cash and keep old truck as spare.
I agree 100%
I've been an independent owner operator since 2011
I bought a 2002 century with Detroit 60 13 speed and still using it. Of course I had in frame rebuild and replaced the transmission recently and some brake and alternator and radiator stuff done to it, but that truck paid for itself in first eight months. Most definitely you should have money in your bank before you buy any truck no doubt about that. One of the key aspects in being a profitable owner operator and I'll put that on top of the list is to have a good honest mechanic, they are despairing quickly. I wish you all good luck and stay safe out there.✌️😎👍
You literally told me everything I wanted to hear! Thanks brother
HT logistics 3434 joined the FLD club as well. As for me 2 years ago I bought my 2013 volvo for 15k got the red isx15 with all bells and whistles a. K. A def egr and dpf buuuut I never idle and always change the oil exactly at 10k miles and it has never given me no problems. Right now the rates are great at Landstar and insurance is dumb cheap going back back to Cali Cali to make that paper.
This is so on point.I survived the lease purchase on Schneider’s tanker side.Just finished paying for it and won’t be doing that again .Four and half years paying my 2016 cascadia now finally I can make proper money and yes your right 100k plus is very possible.This definitely is one of the most helpful and spot on video and everyone should listen to this.The four thumbs down I don’t get ....🇬🇧🇬🇧
I think they are the ones going to the dealership to get the new warranty lol.
CLASSIC XL"s RULE!!!
I'm so happy I watched this. Idk if you remember one of my previous comments but I'm gonna start trucking school in January with a goal (and dream really) of basically being where you are now as an owner operator. And from watching you and AK and OTRookie what I've learned already, I'm happy I know before hand how bad the lease purchase is. I would never ever buy a brand new truck. I'm perfectly content with an older truck. I just dont know which brand would be best suited. I have a long way to go obviously before I should even start thinking about it but, just thinking ahead for fun you know?
Your truck sound fine. Thanks for the tips
All of that touted fuel savings is lost in depreciation, financing, higher costs to maintain, downtime etc... At best.... it is a wash. And yeah.... pump the money into the old truck to enjoy the ride.
Man you make excellent points. Me as a previous driver I would much rather have a Pre- emissions truck like yours that I could say I knew more about it's reliability..
This video was huge for me bro!
Mate I like old school trucks because I love the black smoke from the old boys
I completley agree with you.
Absolutely 100 percent true I’m also a BCO great info for the people trying to get in the business
Preach man. I've been having my truck pay for itself every 2 months easily
Is it pre emissions?
Thanks for the advice..
Thanks for the video. Great advice man
Thank you. Glad you enjoyed it.
That’s what I did I bought a 2000 379 will never drive anything else ever right outta truck school never even driven anything else
Yep that the reason we keep going in circle financial majority of people ,cause u want to buy something u don’t have money for ,cause u haven’t thought yourself discipline financially ,cause these grabbing u ,that, and so if your wondering why financial people get to those successful places that why cause they learned how to cut out all the noise and work hard save and bam like magic they don’t think about what to do when the money calls they got it ,feels like every time I’ve heard message like this it’s brought me back to same point don’t blow money on everything find the things u need to live and put money towards that until u get it and then save some more to Maintain what important things u got than u can look to polish up what u own
Bro thanks for the advice so good I'm not the States yet but I'm sure going to link up with you man 😎👊
I just subscribed, I just found your channel recently. I did a video just like this not to long ago. I couldn't say it better.
Everything you said makes sense. I am starting to look for a truck myself. Thanks homie rant on....
I'm glad you enjoyed the video.
Couldn’t have said it better myself. Thanks for the sincerity in this great video. I would love to have a new truck but it just doesn’t make sense to buy one and go neck deep in hock for it. Plus you can personalize an older truck so much easier and cheaper than a new one.
Thank you. Older is the way to go for sure.
Here's my comment & I really don't care what anyone thinks. Your 1000% right. Paid off older equipment will ALWAYS be better than a newer vehicle. Plain & simple no emissions & sensors that control the truck. If a 1 box goes down on a def controlled truck its anywhere from 9-11,000💰💰💰. You can get a Detroit or Cummings rebuilt at Freightliner 4 that price. Run the truck & save your money, it will pay 4 itself in 3-4 months if you play it right. Everything he says in this video is the GOD'S honest truth.
Pulll one out of the field and rebuild it its a better truck and can be built way cheaper
Good advice NT.
Thanks.
FACTS!!!
Thanks man!
Thank you for watching.
Great video bro. Good information.
Thank you.
I agree 100%
Love my 2003 kwhopper
Agree with what you saying, I am in the situation leaking coolant from the head gasket twice in a month I got to bring truck back to Clark power next week.
Down a month truck repair take toll about 10k I got dd15 2013 really put me the situation should I in frame or go and get the new truck or get the used glider kit truck.
I have old trucks when they break down their back on the road within 48 hours new trucks can take months
I think before anyone jumps into o/o get your bills and credit right don’t have one foot in the grave
I paid 10k for my 2013 Volvo 780. So far I have had to put another 3.5k into in parts and labor. Each week I have had to do something to it, but I still don’t have a payment. I’m hoping that I don’t have to put any more money into it so that I can get ahead, but I don’t have a payment over my head. Your advice is 100 percent correct. I think my next truck will be pre dpf, lol
My goal is to get a 2006-2009 Kenworth W900L. I'll just stay out of California, lolz.
Thanks for the great info! Will you do a video on what you have to do to start your O/O career? Meaning, you have your truck. Now what?
I believe I can do something like that. Stay tuned, I'll start putting something together.
The guy is leased to Landstar. To get “Authority “answers, you need to to find a different channel.
I am , myself, in process. Just got the plates few days ago.
Great video
Thank you.
@@NomadTrucker its amazing great video I have been thinking the exact same thing for if I get back into trucking,check this out ive been looking at a couple of different sites at used pre eld trucks some rebuilt engines some they will need it done shortly there are some deals I would definitely do and some absolutely no way I'd touch that,look up ohio truck sales they have alot of pre eld trucksthat are used and have already been gone thru for a decent price,and some are head scratches no way I'd touch that.anyway kinda fun way to pass the day and like I said some I'd definitely buy.🙂50-70 thousand for a truck already set up ain't bad especially pre eld and some even have big cats if thats your thing,but for me that 50-70 for a truck already gone thru ain't bad,sure some of them might need cosmetic work but mechanilly sound in my books thats what im going to do if I get back in thx neighbor.👍
@@NomadTrucker there is another site im not sure what to make of it all their trucks have been rebuilt and they have really nice trucks pre eld but once agin your getting away from that vehicle that you own the title on. Oh its called truckmarketplace.com kinda pricy .
Sir....! How about swap the engine... I have 2014 cascadia but I’m really wanna swap it but I’m try get some research from people....can u give me some ideas....
What about fuel economy and the regulations on emissions in many states that are starting to pop up?
Im going Crazy.....starting to restore an fld120 from the ground up.....and i have 2023 lonestar on its way..... i have to decide between the two lol
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Appreciate that info. Would a 2007 freightliner Columbia Detroit 60 series overhaul etc be considered old school? It has no DPF etc
Sounds like a truck I would go after for sure.
New truck start which year and old truck start which year let me be clear if I say I have my 2017 Volvo that new or or old
Fuel mileage is the only plus to the new truck, When diesel hits 5.00 a gal this summer it could make a huge difference.
Maybe. I do 7.5 or better depending on the load and region. Even through the mountains I still get 7 mpg. The cost of the truck and the possibility of a minimal better mpg Is still greater than the cost of an older truck with slightly worse fuel economy.
@@NomadTrucker Its not mine, driving for an O/O in a 2020 T680 just got my best of 9.5 with 16k in the box from Oh to Ms, this after getting a trailer with the side skirts. Most of the older school engines pre emissions are in the 5-6 avg range from what I have read online so your rocking a good avg fro pre em engine. I have an apu as well, Heck just 2 mpg avg diff on 100k miles is 4,500 gals at 3, 4 or 5.00 a gal its crazy. But hey I am not arguing you at all, I am researching and number crunchin for a purchase coming up. Anything I get will be used, not new like the one I am in. I want an old school 379 with a CAT or 60 for all the reasons you mention in the vid...minus the potential for this current Gov to run diesel up high and or pass new laws against all the pre emissions trucks regardless of state...idk...thx for the vid and reply brother.
I personally don't think that they will outlaw all the pre emission trucks because there are so many trucks on the road that would get shut down and we are in a driver shortage already or at least they say we are. My question is, that 9.5, was that what the dash said or is that actual miles to gallons filled? Cats are power houses but they are extremely thirsty. The 12.7 motors are very reliable and even with a hooded truck you can get good fuel mileage. 12.7s are cheaper and easier to maintain/rebuild. Me personally, I would stay away from a cat unless it's something you have to have.
@@NomadTrucker This Admin? the way they shutdown that pipeline on day one, they will probably limit them to farm use only..idk.. Yeah the 9.5 was trip avg from the dash. Like you say to I would prefer the 60 to the cat but depending on the total deal on the truck...gonna be about 6 mo before I am shopping....thx brother.
Did I see you coming up 75 between Atlanta and Chattanooga this week?
Yes you did.
@@NomadTrucker I thought it was you I gave you a shout on the radio but the radio in my truck right now can’t reach over the fast lane😂
Lol I might have had it turned down because I was on the phone with my wife who was in front of me with our camper.
@@NomadTrucker Tenfo you were playing follow the leader right lol
Great video man! One question for you regarding used trucks, would you recommend looking at a dealer for a used truck or a private seller?
Where ever you can get the best deal. Usually a private seller will be cheaper and more honest about the truck.
@@NomadTrucker thanks for the information man!! Really looking for a truck similar to yours, the Pickens are really slim as of late. Have a good one!
Is a no brainer for me. Classic XL or nothing!🤷🏾♂️
Zactly!👍👍👍👍👍👍
Did you used to live in Michigan or something? I heard you say you bought a truck in Grand Rapids.
Yes I did after I started the lease purchase. We sold our house in TN and moved closer so we could pay off the truck and get home more.
It's amazing you haft to even tell grown adults this. So sad
what about a cabover will I still be able to get a descent job with it
Yeah, just have to find a company that accepts older trucks or get your own authority. Look into the channel @truckerstyleshawn. He drive an older single axle cab over.
One question?
Why are you not a true O/O?
Not trying to upset you?
Did you look into it? Why would you need Landstar to give you work?
I believe at landstar I'm more of an o/o than anywhere else except for doing everything myself. I have a buddy that is a true o/o and he grossed about 45k more then me in 2020 but my net was about 12k higher then his. Landstar takes care of all the office side of things and honestly I'm happy doing what I'm doing. With them taking care of all the "paperwork" I get to spend more time with my family.
You my friend do not defy what rule and exception is because I have owned 7 different trucks 5 being brand new starting in 2015 and my two glider kits have been completely by far the worst mechanically and useable Technology that saves me money on repetitive maintenance measures.. so ending I would say you my friend are the lone exception
Rule # 1 when it comes to anything involving the trucking industry: Never take advice from an ‘internet big rigger’.
I’m 16 and I always wanna buy a truck like a older truck
2005 Kenworth K104 ( cabover 🇦🇺) and I really hate AdBlue ( DEF)
I've never driven a cab over. I've seen some that guys have redone and they look amazing.
@@NomadTrucker yeah I know
When this Covid thing ends come to Australia we have cab overs every
That would be an exciting trip. There and Ireland are two places my wife wants to go.
@@NomadTrucker oh awesome
I like your truck btw
What if you ain't got the money to buy a used truck should I lease truck to get started cuz I want my own truck one day
Save your money. Honestly the best thing you can do is be patient. You can find trucks that need a little work for under 7k.
Start a savings account save $, may take u years but its better to pay cash than take a high % loan that will hurt u long term. Drive company for a while and use search engine on truck paper website to get an idea of what truck u want and the usual price range it goes for.
No, PLEASE stay away from a new truck. 2 many issues wit a new truck. Save your money 💰 & find a older truck.
When you do have ur $ together consider an aerodynamic pre emissions truck that's 2007 and older with a manual. This combination usually equals the lowest cost of operation. Freightliner Columbia's and centuries usually fit this mold. If ur truck must be ELD compliant get a truck year 2000 or newer. Research ur engines, oils, fuels, rear end set ups, and historic problems your potential truck has.
@@west2401 thanks for the info 👍