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@@jonathanp1884 no because it's an agreement not because of money but as it was explain by psychologist it's hard to refuse a request when you have present or form someone from who you trust , whereas corruption it's only based on the exchange of a service for money. You can't technically ban lobby because lobby don't work necessary with money it's more complex than you think because if a doctor give you an advise about a disease and if it was from an other person who gives the same advise you will not have the same trust and consideration as you have with you doctor, and using the status of a doctor to give advice is lobbying. This is why it's impossible to ban it. Actually lobbying is everywhere and it can be good or bad.
@@sarahthestrategist4560 Corruption definition: dishonest or fraudulent conduct by those in power, typically involving bribery. It is bribery no matter how you choose to spin it.
US lobbying is called bribing in Europe. We also have powerful lobby groups and big problems with it here, especially the EU but it's not as blatant as in the US
I think I saw it a good while ago on Thom Hartmann how SCOTUS 1976/1978 legalized corruption under the excuse of being "free speech". Resulting in the people having no representation at all in who they elect, only big business and corporations who can afford lining their pockets. Of course they should have a say, but it should be blatantly obvious they shouldn't be able to influence more than everyday people.
@@SigFigNewton Thats because those with genuinely good policy ideas are shut out by the news and they are made to seem foolish via lobbying, take Marianne Williamson for example she's a 2024 presidential candidate who is rarely shown on the news and depicted as some sort of unimportant idiot candidate despite having some extremely moral views and ideas that would benefit everyone, like her economic bill of rights which would help protect everyone and give more rights to the people like the right to affordable housing, childcare, livable wages, protections for unions, women's reproductive rights, affordable and easily accessible healthcare and more. She even wants to improve monitoring government and military funding and spending to help stop reckless spending and increase the federal minimum wage which would force states to move theirs up too and move the voting age down to 16 to give young people a voice. She explains how she'd get the funding which is by stopping pointless projects that waste more than they help and possibly cut military funding just a little bit but even with all that the improved economy would bring in more money so it would end up benefiting everyone even more. I think she also wants to stop trickle-down economics and raise the taxes for the super wealthy. She also explains each section to her idea of an economic bill of rights in more detail which further explain how it would be protected and what different things within each category need further explanation but the news like to put people like Vivek, Biden and trump on a pedestal because it fits their interests more and in the long run will help drive elections in their favor which is kind of messed up because they are pretty bad morally and a lot of these popular news stations are bought out by certain parties and candidates anyways. Basically, their whole strategy is to drown out good candidates by underrepresenting them and slandering their image because they want to protect their money by making sure specific candidates get more representation on the media.
@@SigFigNewton The ones benefiting from the current system despite it hurting millions, at this point it's not a fair election system but hey what can you do other than vote and hope that other people do their own research instead of relying on the news and other candidates slander
You ever tried cleaning up an old place and after having to redo the drywall in the third bedroom, you start to wonder if it would just be easier to demolish it all and build anew? That's the feeling i have right now.
Agree, sort of. But exactly who is going to rebuild it. You? No, I don't think so. But the influential and wealthy will thank you (momentarily) for helping them rebuild their paradise.
100%. The only solutions I see are organizing hard for another hard Left party, to carry on the fight that marginalized groups began in the 60s and 70s, and organizing to expand the number of matters that are settled on a public ballot instead of in smoke-filled back rooms and via bribe. We can also strive to increase our mutual aid. The more we help each other they're less we will be at risk of corporate harm or State abuse. Also striving to win elections on a local level will help
@@saliferousstudios in a way we are like a loose association of 50 state-lets. This has pros and cons. I'm not sure what the ideal social order is but I know that I hate what we have now. I know that nothing is perfect but I also know that living under dystopian corporate rule is not sustainable.
Ultimately, the problem, like most problems involving congress, is that you're asking Congress to regulate/correct a system from which they directly benefit. It's like expecting Congress to vote to implement term limits. Probably not in this lifetime.
I wonder where these people now in power went to school and who taught them what they know and why they act the way they do. Parents likely didn't care. Do they even know they're just monkeys in suits yet still illsuited for their job... Or do they think they're born special? Hmmm...😂
@@RSAgility They learned from corrupt people. Your description-and the person we are replying to-is why a “congress” is used for any group of apes. This, like many current problems, is born out of the last 100 years. Unless an aggregious example is made public, it will not stop.
The voters need to become more intrested and invested in the world affairs such as geopolitics and what America stands for and all the other countries. It's is no longer time to be ignorant, especially when the country is trying to lead the world like the US. It needs to become a leading figure of democracy, not something that is a pseudo democracy moved by the rich towards their own pockets, thats a issue, and a insult to the great idea that is democracy, which is under great pressure from infuence of outside forces, the focus needs to be to conserve this democracy and not be puppeted by disinformation or other methods, which make it weaker and this falls into the voters they need to be smarter and more aware of the world more than ever, since ignorance gives room to autocracy legitimacy, even when often they're just a illusion of order, autocracy people suffer in silence, all Western democracies, need to stay very focused now.
dont ask them to change. literally show up like a traumatic event, and canonize any change you want with sheer might spent 100 damn years asking them politely
Almost like there is a reason the rest of the world has a 'no cash allowed' policy. Sure, government paid-for elections are boring but... they are cheap!
For those of us who watched these disasters roll out in real time (and fought losing battles throughout) it’s a huge relief to have a fresh voice of sanity and snark who can break these complicated, multilayered flusterclucks down into processable chunks. (It’s also stopped me from thinking I imagined what a crappy/evil President Reagan was at the time. The gaslighting and selective memory surrounding his presidency has always baffled me.) Thank you, Leeja!
I think the 1st Amendment would have a problem with that. Or at least how it would be interpreted by a SCOTUS such as we have now. "Corporations are people." -Says not the majority of rational humans
Our elected officials write the laws with input from the very same lobbyists they protect (and ultimately become). Is there any wonder this will never get fixed?
He was naive. He thought he can. Thats why his hair is gray now because of the stress of that and the troubles that the bush administration left him especially the 2008 stuff.@@OMMXxPeNnY
The sad thing is that this would require Congress to regulate themselves and NOT make hundreds upon thousands of dollars. They can't even stop themselves from banning trading stocks or raising their own salaries each year. I just want the courts to at least start by undoing Citizens United and recognise that money is speech that can drown everything out.
In 1676, a revolt lead by Nathaniel Bacon that would subsequently bear his name was crushed. The rebellion united enslaved Africans, free Africans, white indentured servants, and white small-scale landholders against the elite large-scale landholders who dominated the colony Virginia, its wealth, and its government. The elites responded by establishing a racial caste system, that put poor whites on the same "team" as rich whites. Poor white people fell for it and they have been falling for it ever since.
Well, I am pretty sure that the founding fathers were just doing their best to make a just country. Consider that in the late 1700 the founding fathers were called "radicals" (basically extreme left before communism came), and most of their decisions were considered to be far left one. That's why in the 19th century USA was the most egalitarian country in the developed world, while Europe was dominated by far right classist bastards. It looks like things have swapped now
Just put the word Rich in front of people and the constitution will make more sense. Its an agreement between the wealthy. The ammendments are for the common folk.
@@oasntetI don’t see how that makes sense. In a state that is as large and diverse as Texas, for example, a representative from Houston won’t necessarily speak well in regards to the needs of El Paso.
We’re so fucked man, like you can’t even get elected unless you sign your soul with corporations and it seems endemic How do we even begin to address this?
My Mother lobbied as an advocate for the developmently disbled (a now frowned upon term) for non-profits like Easter Seals during the '80s & '90s. She was not paid, except for her own travel expenses. She brought her daughter along with her many times to bring her pleas for federal funding to a more personal level. She was on the front lines of today's programs to enable the disabled. There was a time when lobbying could be used for the betterment of the people.
It still can be and that type of lobbying still exists. It's just that they have to compete against people have who billions of dollars at their disposal so they don't stand a chance.
@@jeffersonclippership2588 around 2000 Mom couldn’t get an appointment to see Senators, who she’d been lobbying for years, unless there was money involved. Non-profits can’t even raise money to fund themselves, much less Senators.
@@jeffersonclippership2588 around 2000 Mom couldn’t get an appointment to see Senators, who she’d been lobbying for years, unless there was money involved. Non-profits can’t even raise money to fund themselves, much less Senators.
I'm so glad you distinguished the benefits of lobbying on a fundamental level while also condemning the abuse of the power given by the first amendment. It's not everyday I see someone acknowledge the benefits of lobbying while showing how it has been taken too far. 10/10!
Former paralegal to very big lobbyist, here. I edited bills, amicus briefs, and attended many fundraisers. It opened my once very ambitious and naive eyes. I was hopeful to work to change things. I ended up tired, cynical, and generally sad...with the astroturf org I worked for in 2008 just.... dissolving and leaving me utterly penniless for nearly a decade. (I'm good now, changed my career!) It was sad to see how little power the people have.
When you hear “regulations” think “protections”-anyone who says they “hate regulations” is trying to get rid of something that’s protecting you. (Paraphrased from G. Lakoff, “Don’t Think of an Elephant”)
Haven't even started the video yet, and I already know it's going to be a banger. Leeja, you've been KILLING it lately! I don't watch Hasan very often, but he has been covering your videos if you didn't know! I hope you've reaped some rewards from his community being exposed to your great content!
I haven't liked how Hasan and Hasan's community have been treating Ethan Klein lately. The Tankie-adjacency is bad for progressivism, and I think he enables and leans into that too much.
@@Maelstromme agreed! That’s why I tend to stay away from his community. I appreciate some of his talking points, but his foreign policy is always way off base bc he’s trying to please the tankies
Feel I need to remind people: You can loan money to your own campaign, with interest. The reason it is relevant: When a lobbyist raises money for a campaign, they know they are raising money to cover that interest rate. They are also the parachute, for if the campaign runs out of fun the whole laundry scheme fails, and thus twice as vital to the politician's financial success. Always watch for those donors, particularly those nameless PACs, that swoop in to top off a campaign. Kicker: Past politicians knew about this 'bribery with extra steps' and put limits in place. I found out about the scheme when the current batch of politician removed those limits.
Makes me wonder. America split from GB because of taxation without representation. If our representatives represent companies and not Americans, what was the whole point of the revolution? Why is this not impetus for more revolution?
On what grounds would the revolution occur? The revolution could easily succeed, but the debate over what exactly the revolution was for may mean some members get expelled. Even in the original American Revolution, the Northern and Southern states almost had a civil war from the get-go from their disagreements over what to do with slavery.
@@aycc-nbh7289 (or did you mean it is tolerated in other countries? bc that's different, imo, than having legally protected ways of doing it, bc we have no recourse if the people finally wanted to prosecute. the messed thing in the US is, as they explained, is that it is legal. we need to get to the root of it. I remember learning abt lobbying in gradeschool and my classmates and thought it was pretty messed up, and our teacher agree.! decades later, still not an extinct practice :(
Yeah I wrote a paper on this 2 semesters ago. Corporate lobbying needs to be banned but idk how anyone could actually get these politicians to regulate, essentially, their paychecks and job security.
It won’t be easy as the incentives for current politicians are so terrible in this regard but I think it could be done when Bernie Sanders who pretty much ran on this issue almost got the nomination before, with good chances to become President had he succeeded. There are clearly many people who want the influence of big donors to stop. Unfortunately it is hard to get reliable candidates for this issue off the ground as elections are largely built on the same money that shouldn’t be there. The hope is that candidates can win on the issues bypassing the „traditional“ way with grassroots support. Will it happen? Maybe not but a way to make sure it won’t is to say that it can’t.
@@btarczy5067 well I didn't say that I can't, I just said I don't know how it can happen with the system the way it is. We need to get someone like Teddy in office again, but they won't make that mistake twice.
Leeja, SomeMoreNews did a video on this, too. I watched both videos and decided lobbying is only good when it protects citizens, such as right to repair.
Why can't we get to vote on this We the people why can't we vote for Our health care Medicare for all And to overturn citizens UnitedCan't we vote for this Supreme Court Justice because boy they sure have not done a good job picking them
I figured this out. Any donation to a political campaign has to go through a certain payment receiver system with a max donation is $200/month. Anything that is more than that is considered a bribe with a fine of 10-1000x the bribe with a minimum jail time of 30 years. Same goes for other gifts. And to sweeten the deal for the bribee they get to keep the bribe + a percentage of the fine. It’s like a “we pay you double not to do it” kinda thing.
I’ve been saying it for years! Most problems in the US would disappear if lobbying, gerrymandering , electoral colleges, and school tax districts were all abolished.
OMG; These numbers are absolutely mind-numbing!!!! I'm so glad that you have reported these facts to the people!!!! The people who do this job must be half human and half who knows what!!!!????
This video could not be anymore well timed. Writing an essay about this exact topic in a political science class and this is an awesome informational video!
I wonder between lobbying, lawyers that help skirt taxes, liabilities that harm patrons, advertising to mislead, and consulting firms to fire employees. Is it more expensive to do ALL that or just pay employees and do right by ppl.
Leeja, how in the world did you make a 28 minute video on lobbying and not mention one of - if not the most successful foreign lobby in the US. Especially in times like this, not mentioning AIPAC and its effects on our politics is deafening
I appreciate that you leave your videos with a practical call to action or at least some hope for a better way forward. The topics you tackle would burn me out without some sense of hope 😅
Lobbying needs to be completely outlawed. Plain and simple. Edit: It would make the most sense that any person or entity with more than a slight percentage more than the average household income in assets shouldn't be allowed to donate any money to politics whatsoever.
All corporations that lobby should have NO tax deductions of any type for their lobbying costs. Restrict the number of lobbyists each corp can and restrict the amount of time they can lobby each year.
Our government was set up not to serve the regular people, it was established to empower and sustain authority of the wealthy land owners of the past. And is now evolved to corporations. We have an oligarchy not a democracy. It's all a lot of fancy window dressing, and orchestrated every 4 years for our entertainment by the mainstream media. Every candidate no matter party, is approved to maintain the status quo of the dark state that is actually running this country. Our history has proven this time and time again.
That's how you know it's all just ego. They have everything they want and need, so there simply can be no rational economic motive, it can only be their desire to feel superior to other people. The sad part is how many middle class people have the same mindset.
INSANITY!! I had no idea it was this bad (excessive) and this difficult to stop. We cannot allow all that dark money, or even 'legal' money, to make decisions for the average working person anymore!.
Lobbying is legal , bribery and corruption is not. Its the same here in the UK . Ministers help out the banks and when there voted out or retire they then get seats on the boards of the banks they helped plus seats in the house lords, knighthoods etc.
But isn’t the House of Lords essentially glorified lobbying or bribery? It has its roots in aristocrats paying the royalty in exchange for power and influence.
I so appreciate the list of fixes near the end. The question of how to get relevant information to lawmakers is largely ignored in conversations about lobbying that I see and it is really great to hear proposed options, some of which I really respect.
Lol no offence to Floridians, but of all the states and politicians to fight against this corruption, Florida and DeSantis will be last on the list. He will just throw a argument bone to the common people to get them to fight each other. Why do you think he tries so hard to get people to fight on the Woke vs Anti Woke BS. It distracts common people and gets them to turn on each other. Then the politicians can clean up and laugh all the way to the bank.
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One job that some people have in DC, is just to line up for hearings on behalf of Lobbying firms, and when the representative of the Lobbying firm shows up, you walk away and give them what would have been your seat in the back of the room that Congress uses for a given hearing that day. Pay varies by Lobbying firm, but before Covid, you could make a few hundred a day just being a line sitter (Not sure the current rates).
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The most important secondary effect of all of these obscure money games is that it relies on the powerlessness of the people. The people however are only powerless to the degree they believe themselves to be. All else is an illusion and it is your responsibility to rise your voice, not in anger, but for truth
Politicians know which side their bread is buttered on. Sure, they could be a Bernie Sanders and care about the People, and try to do some good with their position, or they could make tons of money and curry favor with billionaires and big business. Hmm! I wonder which one most of them will choose?? Perhaps this phenomenon will never be eradicated entirely as long as money exists but I'm sure there are things we can do to blunt it.
With even a basic knowledge of the history of the UK political system, It's brazenly obvious where the US one came from and the various bugs it inherited as 'normal' that we have since fixed/gotten rid of through a variety of policital reform and laws. the US system is a lot more like what we had in the 17th centuury...
Congress actually used to be more well-staffed and more capable of making informed decisions about legislation. What changed? Newt Gingrich defunded the Office of Technology Assessment, among other changes.
Maybe because we’re always stuck with choosing between the lesser of two evils. Maybe this could all be solved if we only had semi-closed or open primaries.
Ultimately without the people's right to vote on every matter of importance I really don't see this problem being effectively controlled; although some effective bills might attenuate it partially. There's something fundamentally wrong in my mind with a chokehold of representatives being allowed to speak in our stead. Think of a bottle and the bottleneck. This isn't the military where decisions need to be made quickly, where consensus would be undesirable or unnecessary to the goal at hand; the more deliberation, discussion, public participation and viewpoints we have when discussing a matter of public importance, the better. I find governance by public representation just dictatorship with extra steps. I mean come on, who controls the politicians? The Big Banks and the corpos, who else? This has nothing to do with being a subject matter expert, these are simply placeholders for the public and I find the mere concept of representative democracy an almost complete oxymoron. Without full direct voting, where is our voice? I know that I won't get my way on every single ballot measure but I would feel a damn lot better if the public voted on everything versus being held hostage these corrupt clowns. I'm sick of the bottleneck.
Right so... representatives craft the law then the rest of us vote on specific laws to ratify like the days during the expansion of the USA from the 13 colonies?
@@nates9105 I mean they're really just puppets for the big money and the corpos; they don't even craft any of our laws anymore - I mean all of our laws are written behind-the-scenes now, mostly by lobbyists. In fact, I doubt it's anything new; there have been lobbyists in some form or another going back to the 1800s. There have been a favors and bribes given to get the laws and favorable policies that elites have wanted going all the way back. With pretty rare exception, politicians have always been mouthpieces for the rich and elite in this country and I don't see that ever changing. So what are our options? Oh sure we can hope for a change and strategize and imagine that one day somehow WE will be able to have political influence of our own, WE will be able to get different/ better politicians in office and that may happen eventually, but that takes a long time. And still, even if it does, allowing only a teeny tiny group of people to affect law is a bad idea in my eyes. Human beings are human beings, and even if we could get a quality few people of high character in office I still feel that the majority would still be trash, self-serving, easily co-opted and slaves to their own prejudices; not only that, even the most sincere amongst them can't possibly hope to represent the diversity of views among their many thousands of constituents. I just think it's a foolish foolish system that sure, at the time of the revolution was indeed revolutionary, but it's NOT anymore. It's bullshit and bogus. Street Pigs and detectives are utterly unwell mindless evil zombies ruthlessly willing to carry out the will of corrupt politicians no matter HOW damaging, unjust, vicious, unnecessary, or wrong they are. These filth don't care so long as they get to be the ones carrying the gun and inflicting the pain. They're modern-day low-level nazis. So having an extreme and violent police state at the beck and call of a corrupt political structure is a pretty bad reality. (Asking a Pig to think and to question the wrong/evil that they do is like asking a brick wall to do calculus. It won't happen. Actually occasionally it does happen, but it's rare.) So in order to get better laws, even even if we don't make any major changes to curtail police power, it's pretty clear that that isn't going to come from the current rogues gallery of scumbags that we have at the moment. I think the only way to do an end run around the current worthless political class in this country is to remove their monopoly on policy control aka law . They're all filth, they're ALL shameless, and the few good ones are extremely outnumbered and powerless to do anything on their own; they don't represent 90+% of us and they shouldn't have the power to enforce minority elite will on everyone else, it's that simple. Here's the only system that I see as fully sustainable and fully just: I say ANYONE should be able to craft a law and then submit it to public critique for a proscribed length of time, then if it passes that it is sent for a preliminary vote and if it passes that with a high enough margin then it gets sent on to the final vote where if it passes THAT, then it's accepted into law. Voting, campaigns, politicians- it's the same old clown show decade after decade. They DON'T serve us and they don't care. Elections can be fun but ultimately they are distractions. It's theater, that's all. Soon as that politician, regardless of party affiliation, gets into office he is going to do the exact same thing his predecessor did and all the others before him have done since forever. He'll take orders from the party boss and both parties (which are really one party with two chapters) will continue serve the financial elite and the Police State. This is bad. Being held hostage by these worthless clowns isn't helping 90+% of us.... These people will never care about us and will NEVER represent our interests. If any of them at any level truly cared about basic public needs they would have be doing a lot differently for decades now. Can anybody truly represent you better than you can represent yourself?? Maybe in a court of law (only because there are special tricks, techniques, keywords, tricky phrases and buzzwords that they force lawyers to use) but outside of that? No I don't think so. I just don't like being totally powerless in this society. ITS NOT FOR ME. EVERYONE should be able to be a politician- if they so choose. Being a passive subject to a tiny representative body shockingly doesn't help any of us decade after decade. These slick political elites will never serve the masses (well, very rarely imo). Reps could still a have a role for additional debate and ceremonial roles, but always subject to final approval and ratification done by the public. Without a system like this we really don't have a voice. Have you ever noticed how incredibly disempowered our ridiculous governmental system is in this country?? and its that way by design. It was never meant to serve the 95%, it was always meant to serve the top 5%. No thanks. I'm for anarchy, but as pure anarchy has rarely existed and isn't possible today, then I'm for this. The only law in this country that really exists are laws that criminalize and penalize the poor and the working class for existing, that is all. When's the last time a corporate CEO or a company's senior governing board member, a political bigwig, or a Pig cop went to prison? Right virtually never. Those filth refuse to bow down to anyone and, like true psychopaths, feel like they have the right to do anything they want and that they are superior to all others. Where is the law on those filth in this country?? Well it's nowhere. Big surprise right? Until we get a political body that doesn't protect and serve the unaccountable elites, we're all going to be subject to completely unjust laws that the courts will enjoy using to crush us for sport. Happens every day. We didn't get from zero to mass incarceration via nothing - it was designed and carried out perfectly (and is still being done so). The only way to to make change is to take power away from these filthy reps and put it back in our hands. I don't know exactly how to do that, all I know is that without the public having the final say on all law and anybody being able to craft and submit law proposals, we are all FUCKED... and I'm tired of getting fucked. I'm tired of people being sacrificed on the altar of infinite profits for the big banks, big corpos, unfair tax structures, general injustice, and abusive local policy. I would like less law overall but I'm sure there's a place for some rational law and I have zero confidence in these wholly corrupted bought-and-paid-for suit-wearing thugs to provide it.7
This has happened in many civilizations before throughout history. Unfortuately history shows that the corrupt elite almost never give up their grip voluntarily, which inevitably eventually leads to some form of rebellion or revolution. Happened in France in 1789, Russia 1917 etc... I would like to imagine this corruption to democracy could be peacfully resolved. But if you read history you will know that only violence has changed the status quo.
Lobbying would not be a problem if we had publicly-funded elections. Also, corporations should not covered under First Amendment; they're not "people."
Yes yes Yes We should have publicly Funded elections and they shouldn't last for 4 years It's disgusting what is spent on any election I look at and think we could Take Care of every poor person in the country and The world for that matter Even the local elections it's discussing what's spent Have publicly funded elections and media has to give anyone who's running airtime whether it's Radio TV et cetera Maybe then we would have some decent people running for The offices Wouldn't have to have somebody in their pocket
First, aren’t publicly funded corporations already a thing if the NYSE exists? Second, if corporations were not people, it would take away their tax liability as well as their abilities to be sued or prosecuted in any public forum.
@@OMMXxPeNnYThen why would anyone be driven to start a business if they knew it couldn’t last for more than a few years anyway without having to go through the bureaucracy of starting the business again?
@@aycc-nbh7289Why do you deserve a business if the practices are so anti-people or anti-environment that you need to lobby to lax laws to operate? Not everyone or every idea deserves a business.
Lobbying practically destroying america. Food, health, justice. Even as a teenager in Asia, I came to my own conclusion “Wow, lobbying is so bad “ Why the world most advance democracy in the world still think its okay after all this time is baffling.
It blows my mind that we as the voters who these politicians are supposed to represent tolerate this corruption from our government. This calls for a literal revolution
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Bad optics. This kind of sponsorship only reinforces capitalism and tells us you are okay with "lobbying".
So the right is crazy anti semitic for pointing to actual individual particular billionaires
Hobby Lobby
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@@AkkarisFox like the saying goes, 20 bucks is 20 bucks.
Can we stop giving it a fancy name and call it by what it is? It's corruption. plain and simple.
Bernie Sanders was not funded by lobbyists and is attempting to make it illegal.
no it is not really corruption.
@@sarahthestrategist4560 How do you justify campaign financing? Because Supreme court made it legal? It still allows corruption.
@@jonathanp1884 no because it's an agreement not because of money but as it was explain by psychologist it's hard to refuse a request when you have present or form someone from who you trust , whereas corruption it's only based on the exchange of a service for money.
You can't technically ban lobby because lobby don't work necessary with money it's more complex than you think because if a doctor give you an advise about a disease and if it was from an other person who gives the same advise you will not have the same trust and consideration as you have with you doctor, and using the status of a doctor to give advice is lobbying. This is why it's impossible to ban it. Actually lobbying is everywhere and it can be good or bad.
@@sarahthestrategist4560 Corruption definition: dishonest or fraudulent conduct by those in power, typically involving bribery.
It is bribery no matter how you choose to spin it.
US lobbying is called bribing in Europe. We also have powerful lobby groups and big problems with it here, especially the EU but it's not as blatant as in the US
criticizing billionaires in politics is anti semitic
I want to go to there!
@@osmosisjones4912 lol no ur Just a facist doing the Globalisim thing. Ur other comments on this channel are also hogwash
@@osmosisjones4912how?
@@LeejaMiller go for the holiday, stay for the politics, lol.
Legalized corruption.
yup!!!
I think I saw it a good while ago on Thom Hartmann how SCOTUS 1976/1978 legalized corruption under the excuse of being "free speech".
Resulting in the people having no representation at all in who they elect, only big business and corporations who can afford lining their pockets.
Of course they should have a say, but it should be blatantly obvious they shouldn't be able to influence more than everyday people.
i thought Wall Street was legalized corruption.
@@reverendbStaardI thought America was legalized corruption
That's also an unofficial definition of Government...Every Government
It’s not a political fight; it’s a financial one. When huge corporations can buy votes and laws, the ordinary person doesn’t have a chance.
I've been calling it a soft oligarchy.
We have a little influence, but not very much.
@@grmpEqweerhow is it little or soft? lol
ding, ding, ding! Give this man his prize!
@@SigFigNewton Thats because those with genuinely good policy ideas are shut out by the news and they are made to seem foolish via lobbying, take Marianne Williamson for example she's a 2024 presidential candidate who is rarely shown on the news and depicted as some sort of unimportant idiot candidate despite having some extremely moral views and ideas that would benefit everyone, like her economic bill of rights which would help protect everyone and give more rights to the people like the right to affordable housing, childcare, livable wages, protections for unions, women's reproductive rights, affordable and easily accessible healthcare and more. She even wants to improve monitoring government and military funding and spending to help stop reckless spending and increase the federal minimum wage which would force states to move theirs up too and move the voting age down to 16 to give young people a voice. She explains how she'd get the funding which is by stopping pointless projects that waste more than they help and possibly cut military funding just a little bit but even with all that the improved economy would bring in more money so it would end up benefiting everyone even more. I think she also wants to stop trickle-down economics and raise the taxes for the super wealthy. She also explains each section to her idea of an economic bill of rights in more detail which further explain how it would be protected and what different things within each category need further explanation but the news like to put people like Vivek, Biden and trump on a pedestal because it fits their interests more and in the long run will help drive elections in their favor which is kind of messed up because they are pretty bad morally and a lot of these popular news stations are bought out by certain parties and candidates anyways. Basically, their whole strategy is to drown out good candidates by underrepresenting them and slandering their image because they want to protect their money by making sure specific candidates get more representation on the media.
@@SigFigNewton The ones benefiting from the current system despite it hurting millions, at this point it's not a fair election system but hey what can you do other than vote and hope that other people do their own research instead of relying on the news and other candidates slander
You ever tried cleaning up an old place and after having to redo the drywall in the third bedroom, you start to wonder if it would just be easier to demolish it all and build anew? That's the feeling i have right now.
YUP
Agree, sort of. But exactly who is going to rebuild it. You? No, I don't think so. But the influential and wealthy will thank you (momentarily) for helping them rebuild their paradise.
100%.
The only solutions I see are organizing hard for another hard Left party, to carry on the fight that marginalized groups began in the 60s and 70s, and organizing to expand the number of matters that are settled on a public ballot instead of in smoke-filled back rooms and via bribe.
We can also strive to increase our mutual aid. The more we help each other they're less we will be at risk of corporate harm or State abuse.
Also striving to win elections on a local level will help
I kind of think America is too big. What if we became 50 countries. Then red states get exactly what they want.
@@saliferousstudios in a way we are like a loose association of 50 state-lets. This has pros and cons.
I'm not sure what the ideal social order is but I know that I hate what we have now. I know that nothing is perfect but I also know that living under dystopian corporate rule is not sustainable.
I love how corruption and bribing gets dressed up and called lobbying
Ultimately, the problem, like most problems involving congress, is that you're asking Congress to regulate/correct a system from which they directly benefit. It's like expecting Congress to vote to implement term limits. Probably not in this lifetime.
Yeah it’s bonkers.
I wonder where these people now in power went to school and who taught them what they know and why they act the way they do.
Parents likely didn't care.
Do they even know they're just monkeys in suits yet still illsuited for their job...
Or do they think they're born special?
Hmmm...😂
@@RSAgility
They learned from corrupt people.
Your description-and the person we are replying to-is why a “congress” is used for any group of apes. This, like many current problems, is born out of the last 100 years.
Unless an aggregious example is made public, it will not stop.
The voters need to become more intrested and invested in the world affairs such as geopolitics and what America stands for and all the other countries. It's is no longer time to be ignorant, especially when the country is trying to lead the world like the US. It needs to become a leading figure of democracy, not something that is a pseudo democracy moved by the rich towards their own pockets, thats a issue, and a insult to the great idea that is democracy, which is under great pressure from infuence of outside forces, the focus needs to be to conserve this democracy and not be puppeted by disinformation or other methods, which make it weaker and this falls into the voters they need to be smarter and more aware of the world more than ever, since ignorance gives room to autocracy legitimacy, even when often they're just a illusion of order, autocracy people suffer in silence, all Western democracies, need to stay very focused now.
dont ask them to change.
literally show up like a traumatic event, and canonize any change you want with sheer might
spent 100 damn years asking them politely
Almost like there is a reason the rest of the world has a 'no cash allowed' policy.
Sure, government paid-for elections are boring but... they are cheap!
Hear hear!!
amen
Are you sure? The House of Lords is essentially government lobbying that’s enshrined in British law.
You say they're boring like that's a bad thing
I just was talking to my mom and thought I came up with this until I read your comment lol
Leeja's channel has become my favourite one to learn about how messed up the US has become.
Yup, Leeja and John Oliver!
@@gosnooky Oh I forgot about John Oliver. Okay, Leeja's is my second favourite. Sorry Leeja 🙂
For those of us who watched these disasters roll out in real time (and fought losing battles throughout) it’s a huge relief to have a fresh voice of sanity and snark who can break these complicated, multilayered flusterclucks down into processable chunks. (It’s also stopped me from thinking I imagined what a crappy/evil President Reagan was at the time. The gaslighting and selective memory surrounding his presidency has always baffled me.)
Thank you, Leeja!
I love that she also gives recommendations at the end on how to fix the problem. There are not many outlets that do that.
Don't forget about Some More News!
If I were president, I would make lobbying highly illegal.
if only!!
You got my vote.
I think the 1st Amendment would have a problem with that. Or at least how it would be interpreted by a SCOTUS such as we have now. "Corporations are people." -Says not the majority of rational humans
Money isn't the root of the problem, it's ideology.
Politicians don't find poverty unacceptable like they do rape.
Pretty sure it's known as bribery in France and was made illegal but I could be wrong
Thank you Leeja. We must put a stop to this lobbying nonsense.
Our elected officials write the laws with input from the very same lobbyists they protect (and ultimately become). Is there any wonder this will never get fixed?
Don't you remember Obama made that promise that he was gonna take care of the lobbyist
He was naive. He thought he can. Thats why his hair is gray now because of the stress of that and the troubles that the bush administration left him especially the 2008 stuff.@@OMMXxPeNnY
The sad thing is that this would require Congress to regulate themselves and NOT make hundreds upon thousands of dollars. They can't even stop themselves from banning trading stocks or raising their own salaries each year. I just want the courts to at least start by undoing Citizens United and recognise that money is speech that can drown everything out.
What courts? The legal system was infiltrated too.
"We have the best government money can buy." Mark Twain
The Corporate Republic Of America!
sounds about right!
That's where we are!
also, considering the US 'founding fathers' were wealthy landowners... I am amazed at the myth they were in favour of 'the people'.
But pretty much every country has its roots in aristocracy. Even the Haitian slave revolt had the backings of aristocratic powers in Europe.
In 1676, a revolt lead by Nathaniel Bacon that would subsequently bear his name was crushed. The rebellion united enslaved Africans, free Africans, white indentured servants, and white small-scale landholders against the elite large-scale landholders who dominated the colony Virginia, its wealth, and its government. The elites responded by establishing a racial caste system, that put poor whites on the same "team" as rich whites.
Poor white people fell for it and they have been falling for it ever since.
Well, I am pretty sure that the founding fathers were just doing their best to make a just country. Consider that in the late 1700 the founding fathers were called "radicals" (basically extreme left before communism came), and most of their decisions were considered to be far left one. That's why in the 19th century USA was the most egalitarian country in the developed world, while Europe was dominated by far right classist bastards. It looks like things have swapped now
Just put the word Rich in front of people and the constitution will make more sense. Its an agreement between the wealthy. The ammendments are for the common folk.
So we need to get rid of lobbyists and the electoral college.
Yes. Both.
Also districts. Replacing districts with proportional representation is the only way to stop gerrymandering.
Yes!
And the 2nd amendment....
@@oasntetI don’t see how that makes sense. In a state that is as large and diverse as Texas, for example, a representative from Houston won’t necessarily speak well in regards to the needs of El Paso.
Lobbying? i think you meant to say "legal bribery"
Yep
pretty much!!
We’re so fucked man, like you can’t even get elected unless you sign your soul with corporations and it seems endemic
How do we even begin to address this?
Overturned citizens United
It always has, it's a legal way of bribery even for companies with capitalistic exploits
thats not bribery! its "soft power"
I've said it once, I'll say it a thousand times: Lobbying is just legalized bribery.
I keep thinking lobbying is bribery with extra steps 🙈 lol
100%!!
What extra steps
My Mother lobbied as an advocate for the developmently disbled (a now frowned upon term) for non-profits like Easter Seals during the '80s & '90s. She was not paid, except for her own travel expenses. She brought her daughter along with her many times to bring her pleas for federal funding to a more personal level.
She was on the front lines of today's programs to enable the disabled.
There was a time when lobbying could be used for the betterment of the people.
It still can be and that type of lobbying still exists. It's just that they have to compete against people have who billions of dollars at their disposal so they don't stand a chance.
@@jeffersonclippership2588 around 2000 Mom couldn’t get an appointment to see Senators, who she’d been lobbying for years, unless there was money involved. Non-profits can’t even raise money to fund themselves, much less Senators.
@@jeffersonclippership2588 around 2000 Mom couldn’t get an appointment to see Senators, who she’d been lobbying for years, unless there was money involved. Non-profits can’t even raise money to fund themselves, much less Senators.
I'm so glad you distinguished the benefits of lobbying on a fundamental level while also condemning the abuse of the power given by the first amendment. It's not everyday I see someone acknowledge the benefits of lobbying while showing how it has been taken too far.
10/10!
Former paralegal to very big lobbyist, here. I edited bills, amicus briefs, and attended many fundraisers. It opened my once very ambitious and naive eyes. I was hopeful to work to change things. I ended up tired, cynical, and generally sad...with the astroturf org I worked for in 2008 just.... dissolving and leaving me utterly penniless for nearly a decade. (I'm good now, changed my career!) It was sad to see how little power the people have.
For the past 43 years I’ve gotten a kick out of how corporations and wealthy can’t afford taxes, yet have millions to by off republicans!
When you hear “regulations” think “protections”-anyone who says they “hate regulations” is trying to get rid of something that’s protecting you. (Paraphrased from G. Lakoff, “Don’t Think of an Elephant”)
Haven't even started the video yet, and I already know it's going to be a banger. Leeja, you've been KILLING it lately! I don't watch Hasan very often, but he has been covering your videos if you didn't know! I hope you've reaped some rewards from his community being exposed to your great content!
bangin it
thank you!!! I have seen that, very flattered!
i'm sure that bish had no idea. thanks for the information
woooooooooooo
I haven't liked how Hasan and Hasan's community have been treating Ethan Klein lately. The Tankie-adjacency is bad for progressivism, and I think he enables and leans into that too much.
@@Maelstromme agreed! That’s why I tend to stay away from his community. I appreciate some of his talking points, but his foreign policy is always way off base bc he’s trying to please the tankies
Feel I need to remind people:
You can loan money to your own campaign, with interest.
The reason it is relevant:
When a lobbyist raises money for a campaign, they know they are raising money to cover that interest rate. They are also the parachute, for if the campaign runs out of fun the whole laundry scheme fails, and thus twice as vital to the politician's financial success. Always watch for those donors, particularly those nameless PACs, that swoop in to top off a campaign.
Kicker:
Past politicians knew about this 'bribery with extra steps' and put limits in place.
I found out about the scheme when the current batch of politician removed those limits.
I did not know this. That's messed up.
Makes me wonder. America split from GB because of taxation without representation. If our representatives represent companies and not Americans, what was the whole point of the revolution? Why is this not impetus for more revolution?
Representation without taxation 💀
On what grounds would the revolution occur? The revolution could easily succeed, but the debate over what exactly the revolution was for may mean some members get expelled. Even in the original American Revolution, the Northern and Southern states almost had a civil war from the get-go from their disagreements over what to do with slavery.
in other advanced countries, this is called "corruption" and "bribery"
And yet they still tolerate it, no?
@@aycc-nbh7289 yes, it's one of the most disgusting parts of our system, imo. the founding fathers would surely have opinions on it.
@@aycc-nbh7289 (or did you mean it is tolerated in other countries? bc that's different, imo, than having legally protected ways of doing it, bc we have no recourse if the people finally wanted to prosecute. the messed thing in the US is, as they explained, is that it is legal. we need to get to the root of it. I remember learning abt lobbying in gradeschool and my classmates and thought it was pretty messed up, and our teacher agree.! decades later, still not an extinct practice :(
Yeah I wrote a paper on this 2 semesters ago. Corporate lobbying needs to be banned but idk how anyone could actually get these politicians to regulate, essentially, their paychecks and job security.
It won’t be easy as the incentives for current politicians are so terrible in this regard but I think it could be done when Bernie Sanders who pretty much ran on this issue almost got the nomination before, with good chances to become President had he succeeded.
There are clearly many people who want the influence of big donors to stop. Unfortunately it is hard to get reliable candidates for this issue off the ground as elections are largely built on the same money that shouldn’t be there. The hope is that candidates can win on the issues bypassing the „traditional“ way with grassroots support.
Will it happen? Maybe not but a way to make sure it won’t is to say that it can’t.
@@btarczy5067 well I didn't say that I can't, I just said I don't know how it can happen with the system the way it is. We need to get someone like Teddy in office again, but they won't make that mistake twice.
Leeja, SomeMoreNews did a video on this, too. I watched both videos and decided lobbying is only good when it protects citizens, such as right to repair.
A lot of rights aren't being respected right now and not just civil rights- definitely right to repair is well up there. Everyone deserves RTR.
Crazy how everyone, left, right, or center, would agree that we need to get money out of politics and yet, it will never happen.
Why can't we get to vote on this We the people why can't we vote for Our health care Medicare for all And to overturn citizens UnitedCan't we vote for this Supreme Court Justice because boy they sure have not done a good job picking them
@@OMMXxPeNnYBecause capitalism has won and humanity has lost.
@@OMMXxPeNnYright, why am i able to vote on someone else’s body but not the affordability to take care of my own if something happens
I figured this out. Any donation to a political campaign has to go through a certain payment receiver system with a max donation is $200/month. Anything that is more than that is considered a bribe with a fine of 10-1000x the bribe with a minimum jail time of 30 years. Same goes for other gifts. And to sweeten the deal for the bribee they get to keep the bribe + a percentage of the fine. It’s like a “we pay you double not to do it” kinda thing.
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How come you didn't mention AIPAC?
I’ve been saying it for years! Most problems in the US would disappear if lobbying, gerrymandering , electoral colleges, and school tax districts were all abolished.
OMG; These numbers are absolutely mind-numbing!!!! I'm so glad that you have reported these facts to the people!!!! The people who do this job must be half human and half who knows what!!!!????
*Has ruined democracy....love your channel!
We are a Democratic Republic
This video could not be anymore well timed. Writing an essay about this exact topic in a political science class and this is an awesome informational video!
"Lawmakers don't have the resources to factcheck" dovetails nicely with "small government".
8:00 - I find it extremely “funny” that the *federal government* of the United States is short staffed 💀💀
I wonder between lobbying, lawyers that help skirt taxes, liabilities that harm patrons, advertising to mislead, and consulting firms to fire employees. Is it more expensive to do ALL that or just pay employees and do right by ppl.
Leeja! Run for office! The country needs a person like you in power.
Leeja, how in the world did you make a 28 minute video on lobbying and not mention one of - if not the most successful foreign lobby in the US. Especially in times like this, not mentioning AIPAC and its effects on our politics is deafening
Other counties have governments that regulate corporations while in America corporations regulate the government
Are you sure? Amazon may be forced to break up as a result of an antitrust suit.
@@aycc-nbh7289 I'll believe when I see it
@@dragonlord1689 I am pretty sure there is a pending antitrust suit against them.
Would love a video on the food lobby and subsidy shenanigans. "How Food Lobbies are Ruining our Health"
Thaks for this banger!
@LeejaMiller it's pretty disgusting that you made a whole video about lobbying and didn't mention Israel or AIPAC once.
I appreciate that you leave your videos with a practical call to action or at least some hope for a better way forward. The topics you tackle would burn me out without some sense of hope 😅
Let’s call it like it is. Lobbying is, in practice, soft bribery.
you're telling me you made a 30 minute video about lobbying and didn't even mention AIPAC? very weird
Lobbying needs to be completely outlawed. Plain and simple.
Edit: It would make the most sense that any person or entity with more than a slight percentage more than the average household income in assets shouldn't be allowed to donate any money to politics whatsoever.
That's why becoming a legislator in US has become a rewarding carreer.
But if there were no lobbying, what would all of the former congress people do? They might have to go get a real job at a law firm or something. lol
They can be greeters at Walmart.
Could be that we consider money to be speech, you know - because money talks.
All corporations that lobby should have NO tax deductions of any type for their lobbying costs. Restrict the number of lobbyists each corp can and restrict the amount of time they can lobby each year.
I could never be a member of Congress. I wouldn't last very long since I couldn't take money from groups I wouldn't want anything to do with.
Nice to see a video about this! It's this country's number one problem, and why nothing ever gets done to benefit regular people.
Our government was set up not to serve the regular people, it was established to empower and sustain authority of the wealthy land owners of the past. And is now evolved to corporations. We have an oligarchy not a democracy. It's all a lot of fancy window dressing, and orchestrated every 4 years for our entertainment by the mainstream media. Every candidate no matter party, is approved to maintain the status quo of the dark state that is actually running this country. Our history has proven this time and time again.
Imagine being disgustingly Rich to never work a day in your life and still have your thumb on everyone who are just asking for the bare minimum
welcome to capitalism :)
That's how they get disgustingly rich. Rich is relative. You have to be poor for them to be rich
That's how you know it's all just ego. They have everything they want and need, so there simply can be no rational economic motive, it can only be their desire to feel superior to other people. The sad part is how many middle class people have the same mindset.
@@SigFigNewton- what are you talking about? Lobbyists benefit from Bernie Sanders?
THIS IS WHY WE CAN'T HAVE NICE THINGS!😭
INSANITY!!
I had no idea it was this bad (excessive) and this difficult to stop. We cannot allow all that dark money, or even 'legal' money, to make decisions for the average working person anymore!.
Why not call out the biggest elephant in the room, AIPAC?
She did. There were lots of headlines displayed on the screen, featuring large lobbying groups
Leeja Miller is, hands down, one of the absolute best youtubers of our time
Love you Leeja. ❤💚💛
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@LeejaMiller I think you need to grow up mate.🇦🇺🇺🇲
This is batshit crazy- thanks for this research!
Lobbying is legal , bribery and corruption is not. Its the same here in the UK . Ministers help out the banks and when there voted out or retire they then get seats on the boards of the banks they helped plus seats in the house lords, knighthoods etc.
But isn’t the House of Lords essentially glorified lobbying or bribery? It has its roots in aristocrats paying the royalty in exchange for power and influence.
I so appreciate the list of fixes near the end. The question of how to get relevant information to lawmakers is largely ignored in conversations about lobbying that I see and it is really great to hear proposed options, some of which I really respect.
Florida schools need Leeja Miller videos to be a part of their teaching curriculum instead of Prager U videos lol
*all US schools
DeSantis would ban it, since Leeja would be considered "too woke"
Lol no offence to Floridians, but of all the states and politicians to fight against this corruption, Florida and DeSantis will be last on the list. He will just throw a argument bone to the common people to get them to fight each other. Why do you think he tries so hard to get people to fight on the Woke vs Anti Woke BS. It distracts common people and gets them to turn on each other. Then the politicians can clean up and laugh all the way to the bank.
@gosnooky DeSantis is my American hero, he should be running my country.
Thank you so much for explaining all of this to me, with pictures, it makes it all so much easier to understand.
Reasons why we need socialism:
The captions on the ad where awesome- as someone with auditory processing disorder, always grateful for captions built into videos :) love your content!
What about APAC? No mention? OK
I used to watch illuminaughti or whatever it's called until I found out how she treated her employees. Then I found your channel and I see it as a replacement. It's much better and it's by a real attorney so I like your channel more and subscribed.
One job that some people have in DC, is just to line up for hearings on behalf of Lobbying firms, and when the representative of the Lobbying firm shows up, you walk away and give them what would have been your seat in the back of the room that Congress uses for a given hearing that day. Pay varies by Lobbying firm, but before Covid, you could make a few hundred a day just being a line sitter (Not sure the current rates).
Love these. Keep it up, Leeja. For those interested in a humorous take on lobbying, see the film "Thank You for Smoking" (the book was even better).
I liked “Thank You for Smoking” I didn’t know it was also a book.
The foxes are guarding the henhouse.
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The most important secondary effect of all of these obscure money games is that it relies on the powerlessness of the people.
The people however are only powerless to the degree they believe themselves to be. All else is an illusion and it is your responsibility to rise your voice, not in anger, but for truth
Hmm... No Mention of APAC? I wonder why?
That's dangerous thinking, goiym. SHUT. IT. DOWN
Politicians know which side their bread is buttered on. Sure, they could be a Bernie Sanders and care about the People, and try to do some good with their position, or they could make tons of money and curry favor with billionaires and big business. Hmm! I wonder which one most of them will choose??
Perhaps this phenomenon will never be eradicated entirely as long as money exists but I'm sure there are things we can do to blunt it.
The beginning part of this video reminded me of a poster on the wall in one of my english classes in high school: "It's not who you know, it's whom"
With even a basic knowledge of the history of the UK political system, It's brazenly obvious where the US one came from and the various bugs it inherited as 'normal' that we have since fixed/gotten rid of through a variety of policital reform and laws. the US system is a lot more like what we had in the 17th centuury...
Clicked so fast. Lobbying is so scary. It’s so wrong. What can we even do about it???
It’s so fucked that we’re just okay with lobbyists and we aren’t outlawing the practice ASAP.
I'm not ok with it.
It's not bribery, it's legally-distinct bribery.
A basic problem is allowing a corporation claim they are a person and this is allowed even in court. A corporation is not a person.
Leeja you always come through and I love it!
Congress actually used to be more well-staffed and more capable of making informed decisions about legislation. What changed? Newt Gingrich defunded the Office of Technology Assessment, among other changes.
I despise him.
@@lizannewhitlow1085He'd be pretty high on a ranked list of people most responsible for Trump coming to power.
Perfect time to post this - just heard Justice Thomas got a free $200K RV.
Lol but of course he did.
Gosh, I wonder who needed something?
@@grmpEqweer shit... Take a number....
A nice new bribe *'cough'* I mean present from the Automotive industry.
@@salkoharper2908 Not automotive. Right wing crony.
Thanks again Leeja. Great further insight to the money in politics problem in this country.
I'm fine with people lobbying, but there should be absolutely no money changing hands.
I don't understand poor people voting those that legislate against them.
They're too lazy to do any research
They get fooled. Propaganda. It's as simple as that.
@@seand1011too overworked** give people back their lives (and decent public education) and they will have the energy to reach out of their bubble
@@seand1011Not too lazy, too tired and not knowing how to do research.
Maybe because we’re always stuck with choosing between the lesser of two evils. Maybe this could all be solved if we only had semi-closed or open primaries.
This is making me sweat and kind of making my stomach hurt.
Ultimately without the people's right to vote on every matter of importance I really don't see this problem being effectively controlled; although some effective bills might attenuate it partially.
There's something fundamentally wrong in my mind with a chokehold of representatives being allowed to speak in our stead. Think of a bottle and the bottleneck.
This isn't the military where decisions need to be made quickly, where consensus would be undesirable or unnecessary to the goal at hand; the more deliberation, discussion, public participation and viewpoints we have when discussing a matter of public importance, the better.
I find governance by public representation just dictatorship with extra steps. I mean come on, who controls the politicians? The Big Banks and the corpos, who else?
This has nothing to do with being a subject matter expert, these are simply placeholders for the public and I find the mere concept of representative democracy an almost complete oxymoron. Without full direct voting, where is our voice?
I know that I won't get my way on every single ballot measure but I would feel a damn lot better if the public voted on everything versus being held hostage these corrupt clowns.
I'm sick of the bottleneck.
Right so... representatives craft the law then the rest of us vote on specific laws to ratify like the days during the expansion of the USA from the 13 colonies?
@@nates9105 I mean they're really just puppets for the big money and the corpos; they don't even craft any of our laws anymore - I mean all of our laws are written behind-the-scenes now, mostly by lobbyists. In fact, I doubt it's anything new; there have been lobbyists in some form or another going back to the 1800s. There have been a favors and bribes given to get the laws and favorable policies that elites have wanted going all the way back. With pretty rare exception, politicians have always been mouthpieces for the rich and elite in this country and I don't see that ever changing.
So what are our options? Oh sure we can hope for a change and strategize and imagine that one day somehow WE will be able to have political influence of our own, WE will be able to get different/ better politicians in office and that may happen eventually, but that takes a long time. And still, even if it does, allowing only a teeny tiny group of people to affect law is a bad idea in my eyes. Human beings are human beings, and even if we could get a quality few people of high character in office I still feel that the majority would still be trash, self-serving, easily co-opted and slaves to their own prejudices; not only that, even the most sincere amongst them can't possibly hope to represent the diversity of views among their many thousands of constituents. I just think it's a foolish foolish system that sure, at the time of the revolution was indeed revolutionary, but it's NOT anymore. It's bullshit and bogus. Street Pigs and detectives are utterly unwell mindless evil zombies ruthlessly willing to carry out the will of corrupt politicians no matter HOW damaging, unjust, vicious, unnecessary, or wrong they are. These filth don't care so long as they get to be the ones carrying the gun and inflicting the pain. They're modern-day low-level nazis. So having an extreme and violent police state at the beck and call of a corrupt political structure is a pretty bad reality. (Asking a Pig to think and to question the wrong/evil that they do is like asking a brick wall to do calculus. It won't happen. Actually occasionally it does happen, but it's rare.)
So in order to get better laws, even even if we don't make any major changes to curtail police power, it's pretty clear that that isn't going to come from the current rogues gallery of scumbags that we have at the moment.
I think the only way to do an end run around the current worthless political class in this country is to remove their monopoly on policy control aka law . They're all filth, they're ALL shameless, and the few good ones are extremely outnumbered and powerless to do anything on their own; they don't represent 90+% of us and they shouldn't have the power to enforce minority elite will on everyone else, it's that simple.
Here's the only system that I see as fully sustainable and fully just: I say ANYONE should be able to craft a law and then submit it to public critique for a proscribed length of time, then if it passes that it is sent for a preliminary vote and if it passes that with a high enough margin then it gets sent on to the final vote where if it passes THAT, then it's accepted into law. Voting, campaigns, politicians- it's the same old clown show decade after decade. They DON'T serve us and they don't care. Elections can be fun but ultimately they are distractions. It's theater, that's all. Soon as that politician, regardless of party affiliation, gets into office he is going to do the exact same thing his predecessor did and all the others before him have done since forever. He'll take orders from the party boss and both parties (which are really one party with two chapters) will continue serve the financial elite and the Police State. This is bad.
Being held hostage by these worthless clowns isn't helping 90+% of us.... These people will never care about us and will NEVER represent our interests. If any of them at any level truly cared about basic public needs they would have be doing a lot differently for decades now.
Can anybody truly represent you better than you can represent yourself?? Maybe in a court of law (only because there are special tricks, techniques, keywords, tricky phrases and buzzwords that they force lawyers to use) but outside of that? No I don't think so.
I just don't like being totally powerless in this society. ITS NOT FOR ME. EVERYONE should be able to be a politician- if they so choose. Being a passive subject to a tiny representative body shockingly doesn't help any of us decade after decade. These slick political elites will never serve the masses (well, very rarely imo).
Reps could still a have a role for additional debate and ceremonial roles, but always subject to final approval and ratification done by the public. Without a system like this we really don't have a voice. Have you ever noticed how incredibly disempowered our ridiculous governmental system is in this country?? and its that way by design. It was never meant to serve the 95%, it was always meant to serve the top 5%.
No thanks. I'm for anarchy, but as pure anarchy has rarely existed and isn't possible today, then I'm for this.
The only law in this country that really exists are laws that criminalize and penalize the poor and the working class for existing, that is all. When's the last time a corporate CEO or a company's senior governing board member, a political bigwig, or a Pig cop went to prison? Right virtually never. Those filth refuse to bow down to anyone and, like true psychopaths, feel like they have the right to do anything they want and that they are superior to all others.
Where is the law on those filth in this country?? Well it's nowhere. Big surprise right?
Until we get a political body that doesn't protect and serve the unaccountable elites, we're all going to be subject to completely unjust laws that the courts will enjoy using to crush us for sport. Happens every day. We didn't get from zero to mass incarceration via nothing - it was designed and carried out perfectly (and is still being done so).
The only way to to make change is to take power away from these filthy reps and put it back in our hands. I don't know exactly how to do that, all I know is that without the public having the final say on all law and anybody being able to craft and submit law proposals, we are all FUCKED... and I'm tired of getting fucked. I'm tired of people being sacrificed on the altar of infinite profits for the big banks, big corpos, unfair tax structures, general injustice, and abusive local policy.
I would like less law overall but I'm sure there's a place for some rational law and I have zero confidence in these wholly corrupted bought-and-paid-for suit-wearing thugs to provide it.7
What the fuck can we even do? Voting won't stop this. [Redacted] just ends with us dead in the street. Wtf.
This has happened in many civilizations before throughout history. Unfortuately history shows that the corrupt elite almost never give up their grip voluntarily, which inevitably eventually leads to some form of rebellion or revolution. Happened in France in 1789, Russia 1917 etc... I would like to imagine this corruption to democracy could be peacfully resolved. But if you read history you will know that only violence has changed the status quo.
Lobbying would not be a problem if we had publicly-funded elections. Also, corporations should not covered under First Amendment; they're not "people."
Yes yes Yes We should have publicly Funded elections and they shouldn't last for 4 years It's disgusting what is spent on any election I look at and think we could Take Care of every poor person in the country and The world for that matter Even the local elections it's discussing what's spent Have publicly funded elections and media has to give anyone who's running airtime whether it's Radio TV et cetera Maybe then we would have some decent people running for The offices Wouldn't have to have somebody in their pocket
First, aren’t publicly funded corporations already a thing if the NYSE exists?
Second, if corporations were not people, it would take away their tax liability as well as their abilities to be sued or prosecuted in any public forum.
@@OMMXxPeNnYThen why would anyone be driven to start a business if they knew it couldn’t last for more than a few years anyway without having to go through the bureaucracy of starting the business again?
exactamundo @@OMMXxPeNnY
@@aycc-nbh7289Why do you deserve a business if the practices are so anti-people or anti-environment that you need to lobby to lax laws to operate? Not everyone or every idea deserves a business.
Lobbying practically destroying america. Food, health, justice. Even as a teenager in Asia, I came to my own conclusion “Wow, lobbying is so bad “
Why the world most advance democracy in the world still think its okay after all this time is baffling.
Because the US was never a democracy. Capitalism is anti-democratic by nature
I wish I could buy the laws I wanted. Must be nice.
It blows my mind that we as the voters who these politicians are supposed to represent tolerate this corruption from our government. This calls for a literal revolution
Watching this made me want to vomit. The whole system is so broken and gross.
Welcome to the real America