Empress Carlota of Mexico & The Habsburg Mexican Empire

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    Charlotte of Belgium was the beautiful and bright only daughter of the first King of Belgium. Her life looked to be joyous too, when she fell in love with a Hapsburg Archduke, Maximilian of Austria. The couple’s numerous royal connections even got them a incredible job opportunity, to become the rulers of the newly established Empire of Mexico. They crossed the Atlantic full of tropical, turquoise dreams of being hailed as heroes. But they quickly discovered that they were philosophically opposed to the small percentage of Mexicans who actually wanted them there. As the Empire crumbled, Carlota made a desperate return to Europe to beg for help. Only to be met with cold rejection, which ensured Maximilian’s demise and drove Carlota to the depths of mental illness. Let’s get to know Empress Carlota of Mexico and The Tragically Short Hapsburg Mexican Empire. Plus the History behind Cinco de Mayo
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Комментарии • 463

  • @LindsayHoliday
    @LindsayHoliday  27 дней назад +21

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  • @PrincessDiana254
    @PrincessDiana254 17 дней назад +932

    history is so subjective sometimes. hearing “the tragedy of a short lived empire” had my head spin because as a member of a country that was colonized, I see this from a completely different perspective. this is not a shot at this creator because I understand these videos for entertainment.

    • @PrinAnie
      @PrinAnie 17 дней назад +41

      Same

    • @tyrson4331
      @tyrson4331 17 дней назад +162

      I agree. Even with the liberal ideas that Maximilian had, and his interest for Mexican people and indigenous, he was an invader backed by the French empire
      Didn’t deserve to get killed though

    • @areiaaphrodite
      @areiaaphrodite 17 дней назад +98

      Tbf, at least Maximillian had the awareness and empathy to ask that a stipulation be that the people actually vote him in to show that they wanted him there; not just show up and demand they fall in line. It's not his fault that the vote was staged.

    • @luisabolado
      @luisabolado 17 дней назад +90

      although i agree, as a mexican, i think it was a tragedy for her and her husband specifically, not the empire as such, since that was made by the conservatives and awful napoleon III, and carlota and maximiliano didnt even have the same ideals as them, they were quite liberal

    • @thenoblepoptart
      @thenoblepoptart 17 дней назад +121

      i think “tragedy” in this instance refers to the death of the people involved at the end of the story, as in a greek tragedy or shakespearean tragedy, rather than it being considered a bad outcome that mexico isn’t habsburg controlled

  • @charliemagnebautista2902
    @charliemagnebautista2902 17 дней назад +571

    Love how you're one of the remaining history RUclipsrs who doesn't use those awful AI thumbnails

    • @luisabolado
      @luisabolado 17 дней назад +55

      omg this tho… i hate ai 😭😭

    • @ahmedzahir2865
      @ahmedzahir2865 17 дней назад +49

      Please don't use AI lindsay

    • @Neddoest
      @Neddoest 17 дней назад +41

      Or an awful AI voice!

    • @sanrio..luvsss
      @sanrio..luvsss 11 дней назад +2

      exactlyyy some of them be oversexualizing them too much

    • @ivysn13
      @ivysn13 9 дней назад +4

      i agree ! i love hearing her voice narrating it, and why ai will never replace us there’s such a humanizing aspect to hear hers

  • @cmrsnowflake
    @cmrsnowflake 16 дней назад +183

    "She's very intelligent, which is a bit annoying, but I suppose I'll get over it."
    You sir, are the worst

  • @sebastianescalante5618
    @sebastianescalante5618 17 дней назад +469

    Mexican Here, while I have mixed opinions on the Franco-Austrian backed empire they sent our way. There's no denying Maximilian actually did care about México, in fact, many people do agree that had he lived, the many civil wars could have been at least partially avoided. Still, he was an invader from Austria backed by the French, and the French weren't exactly well regarded here.
    He did NOT deserve to die though, everyone agrees there.

    • @ladylunaginaofgames40
      @ladylunaginaofgames40 17 дней назад +23

      Yeah, he was open minded enough that he seemed ideal, but of course they executed him all the same

    • @blackbirdmd9189
      @blackbirdmd9189 17 дней назад +39

      ⁠@@ladylunaginaofgames40I know it sounds very unfair. But there’s still so much context about the political situation of Mexico at the time. Social disparity was wild, and Mexicans were basically treated as slaves. Of course the good intentions that he had regarding the Mexican empire practically flew under the radar. They represented the “European oppressors” that they got rid of during the independence a few years before. I can’t help but wonder though, how different my country would have been as an empire. 😂

    • @sebastianescalante5618
      @sebastianescalante5618 17 дней назад +11

      @@blackbirdmd9189 I often do as well, but sadly we cannot exactly find out.

    • @brucealanwilson4121
      @brucealanwilson4121 16 дней назад

      The execution was probably politically necessary, but the mutalation of the corpse unforgivable. Particularly as both Maximillian & Juarez were Fremasons.

    • @DDW510
      @DDW510 16 дней назад +10

      Our ancestors didn't want these people ruling them, and now there is a democracy in Mexico. However Carlota Loca is an excellent Halloween costume and what would the US do without Cinco de Mayo?

  • @jamellfoster6029
    @jamellfoster6029 17 дней назад +143

    He shouldn't have been chasing tail when he had a beautiful, intelligent, devoted young wife. Granted Maximilian crushed big time on his cousin/sister in law, Sisi. He didn't have to treat Charlotte the way he did. Queen Victoria was trying to protect her young cousin.

    • @calico_queen8976
      @calico_queen8976 16 дней назад +20

      Yeah, can you imagine how Leopold and Victoria must've felt when they hunch about Maximilian not being a good husband for Charlotte was right.

  • @sofiagirscher
    @sofiagirscher 15 дней назад +146

    As a mexican girl, I dare to say most of us think highly of Maximilian and Carlota, they truly loved Mexico and we often talk about how Mexico´s future would've looked like if Maximilian had stayed as emperor. We understand how mexicans could've felt at the time due to all the foreign invasions and after being just freed from Spain but he did not deserve to die. If you visit his crypt in Vienna, you can see all the mexican flags and gifts mexicans have brought him. They both deserved so much better.

    • @anthonymejia1769
      @anthonymejia1769 14 дней назад +10

      No

    • @Duquedecastro
      @Duquedecastro 13 дней назад +15

      Thank you for that. People who are ignorant and don’t know the full story pass judgment very quickly. It’s a shame that the empire’s legacy continuously faces insult to injury. My Mexican grandparents had small portraits of their majesties in their house, they are regarded highly by many.

    • @yung1717
      @yung1717 13 дней назад +3

      Oh that’s … interesting

    • @pxndx7516
      @pxndx7516 12 дней назад

      Non-Mexicans reading this, please do not think these pro-monarchy comments are representative of the population as a whole. This sentiment is very new and comes from this recent phenomenon of right wing, anti-Juarez revisionist history where "we would be so much better if these foreign monarchs stayed and we never became a secular, democratic country".

    • @pxndx7516
      @pxndx7516 12 дней назад +15

      @@Duquedecastro He could've been the nicest sweetest most Mexico loving man to ever live. He was still an emperor.
      By your username and profile picture it's clear people aren't ignorant--you're just biased in favor of monarchs.

  • @jmmin1213
    @jmmin1213 17 дней назад +161

    Her niece, Stephanie had an almost similar fate. Her parents marriage was disastrous and she married Crown Prince Rudolf of Austria. Rudolf was unfaithful and infected her with disease that made her infertile. And everything went downhill from there. At this point, we can say that the Austrian Hapsburg was a total mess

    • @timallardyce1216
      @timallardyce1216 17 дней назад +13

      & Stephanie's sister Louise who was locked away for years, though unlike her aunt, she didn't have mental illness, just an awful husband that wouldn't divorce her

    • @cheyenneysewijn7343
      @cheyenneysewijn7343 10 дней назад +3

      Fun fact, Rudolf was also Maximiliams nephew. So Charlotte's niece and Maximilian's nephew wes eachother:)

  • @juliamartinshistory
    @juliamartinshistory 17 дней назад +93

    Carlota’s tale is both fascinating and a bit heartbreaking. It’s amazing how history is full of these epic stories of ambition and downfall. Makes you appreciate the quieter moments in life!

  • @tonyjesus1657
    @tonyjesus1657 16 дней назад +178

    Many Mexicans nowadays see Max and Carlota more as tragic figures than enemies. Yes, they were imposed by foreigners, but they were deceived into believing most Mexicans wanted them, and they truly did love Mexico and wished to see it grow. Many of the schools and institutions they founded are still around, and they supported indigenous rights in a way no government has since. Had they remained in power, it is very likely Mexico would be a more developed nation, as the Juarez govt and the dictatorship that followed room us down the line of misery and rebellion. They attempted to outlaw debt peonage, and did what they could to redistribute land, two of the main demands of the later Mexican revolution. For better or for worse, they did their best.

    • @mouthwaterin
      @mouthwaterin 16 дней назад +13

      I would take Maximilian and Carlota over most presidents

    • @thorpeaaron1110
      @thorpeaaron1110 15 дней назад +6

      ​@@mouthwaterinSame.

    • @Duquedecastro
      @Duquedecastro 13 дней назад +8

      And in reality, everyone misses the fact that they were not really “imposed” by foreigners. The plan for a reinstatement of monarchy in Mexico was a Mexican plan, brought to the attention of the French empress by Mexicans in France. (Empress Eugènie, by the way, was a descendant of Moctezuma II). The plan was **helped** by “foreigners”, and the Mexican Imperial Army was aided by the French one. Also, Maximilian was chosen for the very fact that his ancestors once ruled Mexico at its inception. His ancestor Charles V / Carlos I granted Mexico City its arms that it still bears in the 16th century!

    • @moomoopo
      @moomoopo 3 дня назад +1

      The comments on here are sick

    • @Duquedecastro
      @Duquedecastro 3 дня назад +1

      @@moomoopo That’s because you have no clue about real Mexican history, you only know the version according to Juarez and his owners.

  • @Bitterblue55
    @Bitterblue55 16 дней назад +68

    It sounds like Carlotta and her husband were pawns in Europe’s game of colonization. Their story is one of personal tragedy for two people who were ready to deeply care for Mexico and its people. But, you can’t blame the Mexican people for hating foreigners that labeled themselves as their rulers. It’s one of those situations that shows history isn’t made of “good guys and bad guys.”

    • @LindsayHoliday
      @LindsayHoliday  16 дней назад +7

      Exactly!

    • @HideYourKarmaChameleon
      @HideYourKarmaChameleon 16 дней назад +2

      Funny enough, I kinda feel that way about tech giants. A modern form of colonization of various industries. Are their empires and riches not as vast?

    • @lucario2188
      @lucario2188 15 дней назад

      How it was colonization? The idea wasn't Napoleon III idea it was a Idea of Mexican Conservatives who conviced his wife who then conviced her husband, before this attempte they had tried to Crown Agustin son Emperor. Heck they even tried to get a relative of the British Royal Family to get on the Throne, because Conservatives during this time in Mexico history were anti United State and to counter the power of the USA they searched for another power who could.
      France was also not planning to stay long term. We know this because of documents from the French goverment. They wanted to put all of Mexico under the Mexican Empire control, have Mexico pay it's debt and get out, they didn't even wanted to get preferential conditions for trade or contro of the industries.

    • @Duquedecastro
      @Duquedecastro 13 дней назад +5

      And in reality, everyone misses the fact that they were not really “imposed” by foreigners. The plan for a reinstatement of monarchy in Mexico was a Mexican plan, brought to the attention of the French empress by Mexicans in France. (Empress Eugènie, by the way, was a descendant of Moctezuma II). These plans had been discussed since Mexican independence, as Mexico was used to being under monarchical rule and wasn’t very good at republican rule. The plan was **helped** by “foreigners”, and the Mexican Imperial Army was aided by the French one. Also, Maximilian was chosen for the very fact that his ancestors once ruled Mexico at its inception. His ancestor Charles V / Carlos I granted Mexico City its arms that it still bears in the 16th century!

    • @jonatikaWwe
      @jonatikaWwe 12 дней назад +1

      @@DuquedecastroWOW fascinating! Those things are truly unheard of 🤯

  • @areiaaphrodite
    @areiaaphrodite 17 дней назад +47

    I always knew Empress Carlotta had a rather tragic life but it was still hard listening to this. She tried so hard to mske the best of her marriage and her life and didn't really deserve any of what happened to her.

  • @danielsantiagourtado3430
    @danielsantiagourtado3430 17 дней назад +79

    Saw the title and was instantly hooked. You're the Queen of narration lindsay! Could hear you for hours on end and NEVER get tired❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @nope9451
    @nope9451 17 дней назад +31

    For those who are into historical fiction, legendary Mexican author Carlos Fuentes has a magical realist novel, Aura, that deals with Carlota and Maximilian. It’s absolutely fascinating!

    • @SBSF04
      @SBSF04 16 дней назад +2

      Thanks for the recommendation. I’ve been meaning to read something by Carlos Fuentes

    • @nope9451
      @nope9451 16 дней назад

      @@SBSF04 You’re welcome!

    • @Duquedecastro
      @Duquedecastro 13 дней назад +3

      As does C.M. Mayo, The Last Prince of the Mexican Empire. Unfortunately both of the books we mentioned have republican slants

  • @esta8651
    @esta8651 16 дней назад +57

    The lesson I get from History Tea Time is that monarchies and empires aren’t good for anyone involved.

    • @Duquedecastro
      @Duquedecastro 13 дней назад +3

      That’s all propaganda

    • @ejvaldes
      @ejvaldes 19 часов назад

      Most european countries labeled as "welfare states" are either constitutional or parliamentary monarchies.

  • @MiyuMotou
    @MiyuMotou 17 дней назад +22

    I'm always avoiding Maximillian & Carlota's story because in the end it's sad.
    I'm in love with Chapultepec castle, I haven't finished the video but I hope you've seen it or one day get to.
    I'm mexican btw

    • @adriannespring8598
      @adriannespring8598 17 дней назад +2

      "60 Years of Solitude" is interesting. By Gustavo Vazquez-Lozano.

  • @Replicaate
    @Replicaate 16 дней назад +14

    Carlota and Max basically got played by everyone - the Austrians, the French, the various factions of Mexican politics. They weren't exactly innocents, we are talking 19th century imperial adventures and all that entaiils here, but they didn't deserve the ends they met with...

  • @AleGovea1987
    @AleGovea1987 16 дней назад +21

    I live in the city where Maximiliano was executed: Querétaro. As a child I got very sad when visiting the exact place of the execution: "El Cerro de las Campanas" just for the simple fact that afterwards Carlotta, so pretty, had become mentally unstable. I saw her as a princess whose prince had been killed.😢

  • @cynhiacations9879
    @cynhiacations9879 17 дней назад +65

    I wonder if Carlota's mental state was a symptom of syphilis as her husband had acquired a sexual disease😊

    • @yellowiris123
      @yellowiris123 17 дней назад +2

      Either that or something like bipolar

    • @Edmonton-of2ec
      @Edmonton-of2ec 17 дней назад +26

      Or yah know… the trauma of having to flee across an ocean, begging for help and being rejected at every turn and then learning of the violent death of her spouse. That… may have had a negative impact on her mental state

    • @blahblahblahblah729
      @blahblahblahblah729 17 дней назад +4

      That's extremely unlikely, it takes decades for syphilis to evolve into neurosyphilis. Sometimes more than 20 years. Syphilis is a slow developing disease.

    • @nuotatorre8741
      @nuotatorre8741 17 дней назад

      ​@@blahblahblahblah729Stress lowers the immune system, and Maximilian could have been ill long before their voyage to Brasil

    • @arsangelica6858
      @arsangelica6858 17 дней назад +2

      That thing about the midwife with the mushrooms was interesting, if it could actually cause that much destruction over time. I’ll have to look that up.

  • @blackbirdmd9189
    @blackbirdmd9189 17 дней назад +60

    There’s this book about Carlota’s late life after the death of Maximillian. It’s called News from the Empire by author Fernando del Paso. If anybody wants some more information about her late years dealing with mental illness

    • @adriannespring8598
      @adriannespring8598 17 дней назад +7

      "60 Years in Solitude" is pretty powerful. By Gustavo Vazquez-Lozano.

    • @blackbirdmd9189
      @blackbirdmd9189 17 дней назад

      @@adriannespring8598 I haven’t read that one. I’ll look it up. Thanks ☺️

    • @herethereandeverywhere02
      @herethereandeverywhere02 16 дней назад +3

      My favourite book in the world. Although it is a historic novel, hence Fernando del Paso (the author) takes some narrative liberties to make the narration more enthralling, it is without a doubt a masterpiece.

    • @goomu
      @goomu 16 дней назад

      Yes but take into account that is a novel thus no entirely historically accurate

    • @jonatikaWwe
      @jonatikaWwe 12 дней назад

      That’s fiction lol

  • @mikkim11
    @mikkim11 17 дней назад +35

    Been waiting for ages for this video, thank you so much. I always found Charlotte a more intelligent and interesting character than her sister-in-law Sissi, but nevertheless she was overshadowed by her beauty

    • @luisabolado
      @luisabolado 17 дней назад +3

      yes! carlota was is such an interesting and multifaceted character

    • @starlite04
      @starlite04 17 дней назад +1

      I think Charlotte has a more graceful beauty.

    • @SomePerson_Online
      @SomePerson_Online 17 дней назад

      and then she married a Hapsburg

  • @marianacamacho7026
    @marianacamacho7026 13 дней назад +5

    Yaay! I'm Mexican and I've been following this channel for a while, so it's exciting to see you cover this topic 😁

  • @tyrson4331
    @tyrson4331 17 дней назад +39

    About Agustín de Iturbide, he actually was killed 2 years after been deposed. He had a good deal when deposed, even a pension, as long as he didn’t returned to Mexico. When he did, he was executed

    • @lucario2188
      @lucario2188 15 дней назад +3

      He was never given the Pension, they acepted giving it on paper, but never gave it. They also didn't said they were going to kill him until he was already in Europe. He went out of Mexico due to his own initiave, because he saw the Instability that was being cause by two political camps that saw him has a obstacle for their respectives political projects.
      The bourbonist who wanted to go back to how it was before independece and the Republicans who wanted to created a Republic and the 2 saw him has a obstacle.
      So he though if i go the problem end. The rebels had even given their word to gain more support that they weren't going to harm him. It was he who decided to call the congress again abdicate even though he still could have resisted military, he had signed a treaty with the Comanche Nation in 1822 and they had send him a letter in which they were willing to send soldiers to help him suppress the rebels. And the Empire still had armies in which he could depend, but seeing how he achived independece with little blooshed he was unwilling to cause blooshed now. He always took pride in how little blooshed he spilled to get the Mexican independece.
      He was also stalked by Mexican spies until he moved to the UK. When he got the UK he started reciving letters from Mexican telling him of all the turmoil and inciting him to go back, before going back he had a reunion with Jose de San Martin who tried to dissuade him againts going back.
      Before going back Agustin send a Letter to the Congress anouncing that he was coming back. He wasn't aware that there was a law that ordered him to be killed if he went back. The law was also not ment to be applied, it was a law that congress created to dissuade him from coming back. He was that popular that Congress feared his popularity. Heck the Congress of the State where he was detained when he came back prohibited him from talking to a judge or to talk to the local congress to evitate the word to be spread that he was arrested, instead they held a secret reunion where they ordered his execution, before the population got the wind that he was there. They feared a popular uprising.

  • @danielsantiagourtado3430
    @danielsantiagourtado3430 17 дней назад +22

    EARLY! Always ready to drink tea thanks to you Lindsay! Perfect drink for your videos! You're a treasure! Much better than ANY AI documentaries out there. Love from Colombia! This is special for me as a LATAM resident! 🇨🇴🇨🇴🇨🇴🇨🇴🇨🇴

  • @hotcheetopapi245
    @hotcheetopapi245 16 дней назад +9

    My family is from Mexico originally, and my dad would love to give Mexican history lessons, and it's crazy how long ago these stories felt but she died in 1927, my great-grandma, who is still alive, would have been around 2-3 years old

    • @Duquedecastro
      @Duquedecastro 13 дней назад

      Exactly my sentiment! I’m in my 30’s and my grandmother was about 5 years old when the Mexican empress passed away. She always tells me little tidbits about our family during the era that she heard growing up and is 101 years old!

  • @janeyrevanescence12
    @janeyrevanescence12 17 дней назад +16

    Man, the last time I was this early, the Aztecs were still ruling Mexico!
    I feel sorry for Carlotta, both as someone who lost their fiancé and as someone who suffers from mental illness.

  • @charliemagnebautista2902
    @charliemagnebautista2902 17 дней назад +22

    I hope you make a video about the 3 wives of the last Shah of Iran Mohammad Reza Pahlavi

  • @herethereandeverywhere02
    @herethereandeverywhere02 16 дней назад +22

    Hi Lindsay, 3 years-subscriber Mexican history geek here. I cannot fully express how thankful I am now that you've made this homage to the only female ruler Mexico has had. Its been 3 years since I've been asking and waiting for you to make this video.
    Carlota is as tragic as enigmatic, a true woman of her times entangled by the vicissitudes of that exactly, her times. Born to rule, she had the misfortune of docking in this stubborn, beautiful, ungrateful, sometimes obnoxious piece of land called Mexico. Had the circumstances been different, I'm sure she herself could've become and ended as the ruler 19th century Mexico long needed, a peace bringer, change maker. Rest in peace, Mamá Carlota, and rest in the hearts of all of us mexicans who know that you gave it all for this your new homeland, land that offers no payoff but disdain.
    Thank you Lindsay.

    • @Duquedecastro
      @Duquedecastro 13 дней назад +3

      Exactly. What a beautiful shot at prosperity and stability Mexico had with them. Unfortunately, once again, being so close the USA, no neighbor can “shine brighter” if you know what I mean.

    • @jonatikaWwe
      @jonatikaWwe 12 дней назад +1

      Never thought about it like that, it’s true!

  • @fizzy_buzz
    @fizzy_buzz 16 дней назад +7

    My jaw dropped every time I heard another famous historical figure mentioned. It was like a crossover and I was unaware that Empress Sisi, Queen Victoria and the French Monarchy were related to Charlotte!

    • @Duquedecastro
      @Duquedecastro 13 дней назад +2

      Yes! The Mexican empress was daughter, granddaughter, sister, sister in-law, cousin and wife of reigning or deposed sovereigns throughout Europe (and Mexico)! Very well connected.

    • @Duquedecastro
      @Duquedecastro 13 дней назад +2

      The world really is very small (at least in countries with shared history), and as a Mexican, I can trace my lines to some of Carlota’s ancestors. And it’s very interesting to me that even Empress Eugènie of France (Carlota’s contemporary also) is my cousin through two different lines; one is through the Aztec emperor Moctezuma II whom we are both descendants of!

    • @fizzy_buzz
      @fizzy_buzz 12 дней назад +1

      @@Duquedecastro Woahhh! That's so cool! You have an awesome heritage and are very fortunate to know a part of your ancestors :D

    • @Duquedecastro
      @Duquedecastro 12 дней назад +2

      @@fizzy_buzz Thank you! Yes my grandparents were sure to pass on their heritage to us all. It’s fun to discover even more than they knew! And was even funner to share it with them, my grandmother just passed in the last couple months at almost 101

  • @user-oj7bn5fq4m
    @user-oj7bn5fq4m 16 дней назад +35

    As a Hispanic it is important to mention that Carlota and Max would’ve been A LOT better than what come afterwards. It’s to my understanding they were incredibly liberal for their time, Max truly loved Mexico and they immersed themselves into the indigenous cultures there. A far cry from the English monarchs who thought of themselves as French first. Only problem were Max and Carlotta were foreign. A monarchy wouldn’t have worked in the long run, but I wonder how Mexico would’ve been under their reign. It makes me wonder if the Mexican Revolution would’ve happened. It kinda reminds me of Jacobo Arbenz and Guatemala.

    • @Duquedecastro
      @Duquedecastro 13 дней назад +5

      The ironic thing that no one seems to realize is that once upon a time in history, many Mexican’s own ancestors were “foreign” to Mexico. Many of our ancestors came from the same place: Europe. In actuality, our Mexican ancestors had Novohispanos and Spanish ancestors who were subjects of the same Habsburg dynasty!! That is why they chose him in the first place! His own ancestor granted Mexico City its shield of arms in the 16th century which it still used today!

    • @mett978
      @mett978 13 дней назад

      It probably would have ended up like every other Francophone African country - stolen resources still tied to the French GDP up until today - unless of course Maximilian gained enough popularity to sever ties with the French and truly, genuinely served the people of Mexico

    • @mercianthane2503
      @mercianthane2503 12 дней назад +4

      At this poing México was still a infant nation. Literally every citizen had already both european and native ancestry.
      I think that, at the end, Max and Carlota's dynasty would have been mexicanized quickly, in one or two generations, no longer seen as foreigners but actual mexicans.
      The revolution was caused mostly by Porfirio Díaz 30 years of absolute presidency.

    • @alexisschiffer4830
      @alexisschiffer4830 12 дней назад +2

      @@DuquedecastroBut by the 1860s Mexico was 40 years independent. Doesn’t matter if Mexicans have Spanish or other European ancestry. Maximilian and Charlotte were still foreigners and AFAIK, the plan was only supported by some elite. Look at the Philippines (another former Spanish colony). Many Filipinos have Chinese, Spanish or other non-native ancestry. That doesn’t mean they want to become a puppet state of China, no more than many Mexicans at the time not wanting to be a proposed French puppet state ruled by an Austrian archduke.

    • @Duquedecastro
      @Duquedecastro 11 дней назад +3

      @@alexisschiffer4830 First of all, Filipinos do not have Spanish ancestry, only 1 to 3% do. Not sure even why bring them up. Mexico wasn’t in any way similar to the situation in the Philippines. Mexico is a country with 80-90% of its people descending from Europe in one way or another and in any amount. Second, 40 years independent is nothing. Third, the Mexicans ***themselves*** came up with the plan for the First Mexican Empire **and** the Second Mexican Empire. Monarchy was all that Mexico had ever known, until 1823 after the demise of the Spanish and First Mexican Empires. Fourthly, Maximilian was a descendant of the kings that ruled Mexico since the 16th century, and that granted Mexico City it’s coat of arms that it still bears to this day - that’s not foreign no matter how you splice it, 40 years or not.

  • @PerfectlyImperfect93
    @PerfectlyImperfect93 17 дней назад +7

    Thank you for doing these Lindsay!❤

  • @helloxo666
    @helloxo666 9 дней назад +3

    I’ve painted Carlotta (I’m Mexican American) and am happy that the king surrendered himself to die in Mexico. I wish Carlotta had stayed in Mexico too. She would be better remembered for it.

  • @anweshabiswas4813
    @anweshabiswas4813 17 дней назад +10

    Big fan of Lindsay , your videos give me an lifelong obsession for the history of European and other royal families ❤❤❤❤

  • @luisabolado
    @luisabolado 17 дней назад +10

    omg this is the best ever!! im so glad now you have a video on her, i love your videos and her, she’s my all-time favourite icon since i was a little girl, i even went to a restricted part of the castle where she had (still is there!) a bench where she sat and looked at the city from afar… she was amazing❤

  • @dragondotell701
    @dragondotell701 17 дней назад +3

    Great video, and I can't wait to see what comes out next!

  • @Amanda.Villarreal
    @Amanda.Villarreal 17 дней назад +7

    I've been watching you for a while and have never been this early to one of your videos! Thank you for doing what you do!👸❤🎉🤴

  • @AnaFitzgerald1996
    @AnaFitzgerald1996 16 дней назад +4

    I HAVE LOVED THIS VIDEO VERY MUCH! THANKS FOR YOUR WORK!

  • @magellantv
    @magellantv 17 дней назад +8

    This was amazing! Thank you so much for such incredible content 👏

  • @kaliwindx7287
    @kaliwindx7287 15 дней назад +1

    This was an excellent video. I really appreciate this. I knew a little bit about Carlotta, but this was very informative due to the excellent research. Thank you.

  • @jamesonporritt2197
    @jamesonporritt2197 17 дней назад +6

    Always makes my day better!!

  • @alien8897
    @alien8897 16 дней назад +1

    YEEEEEEESS I've waited so long for this day, thank you Lindsay 💖

  • @Elsa.8511
    @Elsa.8511 10 дней назад +2

    As a mexican female gracias 🙏🏻 for this video I've always been a great fan! I wish you'd do more mexico related videos once in a while.. maybe Pio Pico last governor under mexican rule.. my husband works with his close descendants

  • @joshuamichael2421
    @joshuamichael2421 16 дней назад +1

    Ive been hoping for this one for a long time! Loved it

  • @Romaboo680
    @Romaboo680 11 дней назад +5

    Maximilian showing up in Vera Cruz like: "How do you do fellow Mexicans?"

    • @Duquedecastro
      @Duquedecastro 11 дней назад +2

      And he was. His ancestors were connected to Mexico since the 16th century

    • @leonardopadilla7631
      @leonardopadilla7631 7 дней назад

      The sub 5 Mexican -Americans they’re feel more American

    • @Duquedecastro
      @Duquedecastro 6 дней назад

      @@leonardopadilla7631 What does that mean?

  • @hailchristandmary
    @hailchristandmary 17 дней назад +7

    Really loved this episode about Mexican history thank you.

  • @jacobdenis9192
    @jacobdenis9192 17 дней назад +8

    Love your videos ❤
    How is the history tour going 😊

  • @Richardsonprincess00
    @Richardsonprincess00 17 дней назад +5

    Hopefully do the video of the bloodline linguine of the Belgium royal family soon.
    Felt sorry for Charlotte's miserable life and that she was madness of crazy.

  • @adelaromero2538
    @adelaromero2538 17 дней назад +5

    About time!!!

  • @Florian-yn3ur
    @Florian-yn3ur 6 дней назад +2

    Maximiliano and Carlota are easily the best leaders México has ever had

    • @3x157
      @3x157 День назад

      facts

  • @blahblahblahblah729
    @blahblahblahblah729 17 дней назад +14

    PLEASEEEE do a video on Maria Leopoldina, first empress of Brazil! And her son Dom Pedro II, and his daughter Princess Isabel! I'd love to see a video on the brazilian royal family. Especially Empress Leopoldina, that is still loved and respected in Brazil.

  • @LJlnn
    @LJlnn 8 дней назад

    LOVE it when you just talk about one person in detail!

  • @sosomumu
    @sosomumu 16 дней назад +8

    please do a video on her brother leopold and his heinous crimes in the congo!!

  • @Caligirl4life555
    @Caligirl4life555 2 дня назад +1

    As a Mexican American, I’m so glad you covered this story! I’ve never visited Mexico City, only Guanajuato where my parents are from. I’m hoping someday to visit the city so that see first hand El Castillo de Chapultepec. Also, would definitely love to visit Vienna!

  • @Elisabeth_Draws
    @Elisabeth_Draws 17 дней назад +5

    I love History better because of you! ❤

  • @lx_azzl
    @lx_azzl День назад

    Most succinct documentary I've found about #Carlota's life, BTW. Much appreciated!

  • @Eduard016
    @Eduard016 15 дней назад

    Thank you for an interesting video.

  • @andreabarrios5249
    @andreabarrios5249 12 дней назад +2

    Great video, thanks for sharing this amazing story! I am Mexican, from Querétaro in central Mexico, the city where Maximiliano was assassinated. Your video is quite “à propos” for Cinco de Mayo, which as mentioned, commemorates the only battle Mexico won against a European country 😊 Incidentally, one of mother's ancestors was French, and we believe he was one of the soldiers who stayed in Mexico after the failed French intervention 😉
    In school, we learned all about Maximiliano's demise, but I had always wondered what had happened to Carlota. I was surprised to find out she was Leopold's daughter and Princess Charlotte's namesake! She sure was smart and had great ideas for social reform, though being a woman at the time, ideas were supposed to have come from her husband, right? She seems to have been appreciated by many people in Mexico, yet we never learned much about her… It is impressive that she was sent as an ambassador and was able to plead their cause to Napoleon III, but neither he nor her relatives came to their aid, and she literally became a lost cause 😔
    In our school books, Maximiliano was portrayed as the bad guy, the invader who sought refuge in our city, in the church shown in the sepia photo @ 25:37 “Templo de la Santa Cruz.” Benito Juarez's government put a siege on the city and used canons to force Maximiliano out (we can still see the damage on the walls.) He was finally apprehended with his two supporters, Miramón and Mejía, and they were killed at gunpoint on “Cerro de las campanas,” where our state's university UAQ is now located. Years later, the Austrian government commissioned a chapel in his honour, which is frequently visited by schools and tourists. What was once a desolated hill has become a beautiful park and there is now a museum that recounts this time in Mexican history.

    • @Duquedecastro
      @Duquedecastro 11 дней назад +1

      Querétaro was chosen because it was a very conservative bastion, not sure how your schools turned around on his legacy so completely.

  • @starlite04
    @starlite04 17 дней назад +7

    My heart breaks for Charlotte.

  • @martijnkeisers5900
    @martijnkeisers5900 16 дней назад +1

    Excellent video!

  • @sgillespie964
    @sgillespie964 17 дней назад +2

    Oooo, I love this subject

  • @StamperWendy
    @StamperWendy 13 дней назад

    Thank you

  • @Edmonton-of2ec
    @Edmonton-of2ec 17 дней назад +4

    15:58 They actually weren’t crowned. Given the situation the country was in, it was decided to hold off on any official ceremony until the country had been stabilized… which never happened. Ever. This is Mexico we’re talking about

  • @jojoone1099
    @jojoone1099 17 дней назад +1

    Another hit!

  • @lipingrahman6648
    @lipingrahman6648 17 дней назад +6

    Well Mexico was once part of the Habsburg dominion until 1700. Why not one more Habsburg just for old times sake.

  • @damonika09
    @damonika09 17 дней назад +5

    Damn. A tragic empress just like her namesake was a tragic princess.

  • @andreabarrios5249
    @andreabarrios5249 12 дней назад +2

    If I may add some corrections, starting @ 9:50: The Mayan pyramids in the photo are in Guatemala, there are other Mayan cities in Mexico 😉
    The conquistador Hernán Cortez arrived in Mexico from Spain in 1519, but only conquered the Aztec Empire in 1521, which lead to the establishment of the New Spain colony, lasting 300 years. The War of Independence started in 1810, but independence was granted by Spain only in 1821. However, we don't call it a “revolution,” because the Mexican Revolution was fought in 1910 against Porfirio Diaz's dictatorship. In fact, a Republic with President Guadalupe Victoria was indeed established, because the independence was an anti-monarchist movement, just as in the USA and other former Spanish colonies in Latin America. However, it is true that this lead to political instability, and the elites did not want to lose their power and influence, so they later established the First Mexican Empire with Iturbide. As others have pointed out, Maximiliano and Carlota's Empire was not colonization per se, because as shown, they were invited and convinced by the Mexican elites who wanted a return to conservatism. Indeed, the problems arose when monarchy supporters realized that Maximilian, and Carlota, as also mentioned in the video, were more liberal than they were. That is why monarchists did not oppose to Maximiliano being assassinated in the end… Our history books portrayed the Europeans as invaders and the Mexican Republic as the heroes, but as we know, story is never black or white. Thank you for helping us learn the nuances! 😊

  • @tylishaqueenoceanriver1676
    @tylishaqueenoceanriver1676 17 дней назад +8

    Can I consider you my teacher? I learn a lot more from you than my school

  • @darianasosa7298
    @darianasosa7298 6 дней назад +2

    As a Mexican, I'd never seen actual photographs of either Maximilian or Carlota before this video. Only their official portraits. I've had the opportunity of seeing those in real life. It was interesting to see that Maximilian was a really awful husband since before becoming emperor. There's a myth here that blond kids born in small towns are descendants of Maximilian, their ancestors born from his many infidelities. You forgot to mention they also refurbished Chapultepec Castle and you can still see their furniture, adjustments, carriages, clothes, decorations and portraits there.

    • @ejvaldes
      @ejvaldes 18 часов назад

      Yo tenía una opinión muy favorable de Maximiliano hasta que comencé a estudiar el periodo a profundidad. Hoy pienso que él, como Emperador, estaba condenado al fracaso, y que hubiese sido mejor que él se lo pasara viajando y cazando mariposas y que Carlota fuera la gobernante de facto.

  • @crimson4810
    @crimson4810 16 дней назад +3

    Adiós, mamá Carlota
    Adiós, mi tierno amor

  • @hannahrozenberg3411
    @hannahrozenberg3411 17 дней назад +3

    Amazing video Lindsay! Would you be interested in making a video about La Malinche, she was a translator and lover of Hernan Cortez.

  • @MNcoquicoqui
    @MNcoquicoqui 11 дней назад +2

    Maximilian was a fan of Mariachi music. He asked for the Mariachi band to play before he was executed.

    • @Duquedecastro
      @Duquedecastro 11 дней назад +1

      He also created the black “traje de mariachi”, or suit that mariachis still wear to this day!

  • @conho4898
    @conho4898 15 дней назад

    Hey Lindsay! Love your videos! I think it would be great if you can make subtitles for your videos, it would be amazing!

  • @helloxo666
    @helloxo666 9 дней назад +1

    ❤❤❤ Mexico 🇲🇽

  • @IgordaCosta0509
    @IgordaCosta0509 17 дней назад +2

    Listening to you talk about the Mexican Empire makes me want to hear your take on the Brazilian Empire. It’s such an oddity among the short lived empires and nascent republics in Latin American during the 19th century :)

  • @miedk9871
    @miedk9871 16 дней назад +1

    Tak!

  • @lx_azzl
    @lx_azzl День назад

    Empress Charlotte left an everlasting legacy in Mexico. My great-great-grandaunt Josefa was her damsel and herself a much respected socialité in liberal Mexico. And there is even a dessert very popular in this country honouring the empress' name: Carlota, made from cookies, condensed milk and lemon.

  • @timallardyce1216
    @timallardyce1216 17 дней назад +3

    What a tragic story. Most of her life spent locked away.

  • @SayanHaque201
    @SayanHaque201 12 дней назад +1

    I love yiu video ❤❤

  • @lizorona5669
    @lizorona5669 16 дней назад +2

    That is true to have a queen in a king in Mexico, but the revolution was too strong for them 😢

  • @dylangarcia3898
    @dylangarcia3898 17 дней назад +6

    I feel like carlota along with dowgner empress Dagmar are the most tragic of royal ladies

    • @ChibiProwl
      @ChibiProwl 16 дней назад +1

      Yes.😢 Carlotta went mad, and dowager empress Dagmar lost her first husband to tuberculosis, I believe, then lost her children and grandchildren to a VERY bloody revolution.😢

  • @Kaboomboo
    @Kaboomboo 16 дней назад +5

    She could've married the first guy. He was dang cute. Max was ooglay.

    • @AstarionWifey
      @AstarionWifey 9 дней назад +1

      Right?! Who cares about the responsibilities gf
      Get that crown 👑 😭👏

    • @princess-mn2li
      @princess-mn2li 8 дней назад

      I was thinking the same! Lol

  • @erikaheck8261
    @erikaheck8261 16 дней назад +1

    Poor Carlotta. I feel so bad for her

  • @mett978
    @mett978 13 дней назад +3

    Funny how we're all connected... If she and her Prince had been supported and successful, her brother Leopold probably wouldn't have gotten hold of her money and committed the genocide in the Congo

    • @Duquedecastro
      @Duquedecastro 11 дней назад +1

      This is true. In my opinion, the 12% Indigenous of Mexico would also have faired much better. It is true, as the creator of the video said, that the Mexican empire was tragically short. But people who can’t handle the truth cried and complained, so she changed it.

  • @yongci
    @yongci 17 дней назад +3

    the mexican war of independance began in 1810 and it lasted until 1821 when independance was finally declared
    the mexican revolution is a different event that took place from 1910 to 1920

  • @sneakyprince1899
    @sneakyprince1899 17 дней назад +2

    YESSSSSSSSS

  • @maureentuohy8672
    @maureentuohy8672 17 дней назад +3

    Brilliant! I have a B A in history but I always learn something new when I listen to your channel.
    PS
    Maxamilan had a face only a blind mother could love and he resented the fact that his wife was intelligent???? Go figure! 🙄

    • @arsangelica6858
      @arsangelica6858 17 дней назад

      What an odious twit Maximilian was. I can see possibilities for this situation, especially since they had the will to try to make it benefit everyone, but he was not the man for the job- and the only obvious thing that Carlotta was partially culpable for, the ‘adoption’ of the two boys that excluded their biological mother (it looks like it might actually have been a good idea if they had just brought all three of them in), may have had some grounding in the STD he seems to have given her. If she had been given the steering on something that was what she wanted to begin with… who knows? She was awfully young for all of that, though. He wasn’t old enough to be wise himself (nor was he advanced for his years, hah) and she was seven years younger still. Honestly, this was mostly Napoleon III’s fault. He faked the election and got them into that mess, set them up for failure, and then chickened out of shoring up the disaster he created. Napoleon III was a man who was so quick to pounce sexually that in a dark room he reportedly molested a bishop before realizing he’d caught the wrong kind of fish on the line. The only reason it wasn’t called rape, aside from his being Emperor, was that he didn’t give women the opportunity to say no. That is someone who is at base both utterly unprincipled and highly impulsive, and it figures that his political behavior would have the same tendency.

  • @cameronmclean6804
    @cameronmclean6804 12 дней назад +2

    Funny I’m watching this on Cinco de Mayo

  • @Duquedecastro
    @Duquedecastro 13 дней назад +3

    17:00 I do not think honestly we can say the country of Mexico at that time was majority “liberal”! Conservatives were supported by many, and many from the liberal party slowly came into the imperial cause

  • @ChineduOluwole-uz4px
    @ChineduOluwole-uz4px 16 дней назад +2

    Well now I'm depressed.

  • @HORSEYANIME2024
    @HORSEYANIME2024 16 дней назад

    Pls do a full video on empress Carlotta of Mexico and her struggle with mental illness

  • @TheMensRea
    @TheMensRea 17 дней назад +3

    As long as we all remember that colonization has been part of history of people since time immemorial.

    • @sierramist0789
      @sierramist0789 16 дней назад +1

      It was and is still brutal, violent and tragic for the victims.

  • @theillustriouscosmowitch617
    @theillustriouscosmowitch617 17 дней назад

    Hey.
    I apologize if this is a little irrelevant to the video but about a year ago, you made a video about black nobles in 18th century France and Britain and I was just wondering where you got your source for the information you shared on Louise Marie-Therese, Specifically on Nabo’s fate and about how she inspired a chocolate factory?

  • @Duquedecastro
    @Duquedecastro 13 дней назад +10

    In reality the Second Mexican Empire was not a colonization by the French. As a Mexican, I know it was a mutual cooperation amongst Mexican monarchists and conservatives with the Second French Empire. This was a project put into action by Mexicans themselves, and the Imperial Mexican Army fought alongside the French one, for instance, at the Battle of Puebla. History according to “some” now call it a “French vs Mexican” thing. That is not correct.

    • @Duquedecastro
      @Duquedecastro 2 дня назад

      More interesting facts: The Mexican conservatives and monarchists **invited** Maximilian to become the Emperor of Mexico. He was elected by the Assembly of Notables in Mexico City. The empire’s regents included the son of Jose Maria Morelos - and literally one of the nationally celebrated “niños heroes” of Chapultepec was his right hand general - Miramón who died **with** him and Tomás Mejia - and Indigenous general under Maximilian! No one seems to bother reading real history!!

  • @barbiegbonneau
    @barbiegbonneau 15 дней назад

    hii lindsay,i would like to recommend a video about Lily Elsie,a great beauty.I've searched a litlle bit about her but i have not found many things

  • @gretchenvince7378
    @gretchenvince7378 13 дней назад +1

    Ms. Lindsey, do you ever think could do a video on Empress Eugenie?

  • @MrBrownnn696
    @MrBrownnn696 16 дней назад +1

    How sad.

  • @northamericanintercontinen3207
    @northamericanintercontinen3207 7 дней назад +1

    Mamá Carlota

  • @thedoctor7784
    @thedoctor7784 17 дней назад +3

    If I were her, I wouldn't let my cheating, stupid husband take the reins. My first day there I would've tackled the problems and economic issues first, then have a formal coronation.

  • @ronhuhn7562
    @ronhuhn7562 16 дней назад +3

    Perfect example of colonial over-reach...change the names and locations, and you'll find the same thing today, only the colonialists in the twenty-first century can't loose.

  • @andromeda331
    @andromeda331 16 дней назад +1

    Poor Carlota.