Hanging out in a convent for long periods of time was often a good option for aristocratic women. Food, prayer, reading, music... it wasn't torture and it was a safe and respectable home.
To be fair, the convent that she grew fond of was a Medici sympathetic convent that was a sort of training school for young ladies and ran by retired ladies of society. But a prisoner none the less
Massive respect to Catherine. She respected different faiths and even tried to end the friction between Catholics Protestants in France. That's incredible for which the time she lived.
Right they were literally dying from like common colds and I get them at least 4 times a year and sometimes don’t even take medicine and be perfectly fine😭😭
While royals didn't marry for love back then, so I can understand why someone would want to have a mistress, that is so cruel how Henry II would rub it in Catherine's face.
You married for heirs and had a mistress for love. It wasn't uncommon for even queens to have lovers after having the heir and a spare, but was uncommon for a king to not have a lover.
@@idkimjustdarkfudgelol6896 Usually that happens when the Queen takes a lover without the King's permission. It's seen as adultery which was punishable by death. It sounds terrible, but woman back then had to listen and obey their husbands.
I wanted to love that show, but couldn't get around the contemporary Fredericks of Hollywood "corsets" as outerwear and such. So many of the women's costumes were literally bought off the rack and still available to buy when the episodes aired.
I found out about Catherine in a romance novel about Henri & Diane. The author portrayed Catherine as a jealous, mean, & vindictive woman. How would any woman at that time be happy when her husband treated his mistress as a queen and publicly also.
I suspect the book you read was The Courtesan by Diane Haegar (I am sure I misspelled the last name). I absolutely loved that book. Ever since, I have been angry at Catherine because of her barring Diane de Poitier from King Henri's death bed. The man spent about 25 years with the woman. Yes, yes. I know. Catherine was his wife and Henri was an adulterer but I still believe Diane and Henri should have been able to say good bye.
No I dont care about them saying goodbye. She first had a relationship with a 15 year old at 35 and continually harrassed is actual wife, she does not deserve that
Minor correction - Mary Stuart's father died when she was all of six days old. She came to France when she was five years old to escape what is known as 'the rough wooing'.
My heart breaks for Catherine. I don't know how she survived all the loss she did, I mean she lost her parents, her husband and EIGHT of her ten children and on top of that she still loved Henry deeply, despite the fact he openly had lovers and wore their colours. She was a woman of her time and a survivalist if there ever were one, an admirable woman to say the least.
Catherine truly seems like a tenacious, dedicated leader and mother, with unique interests as well! I can barely comprehend the anger and sorrow she must have felt seeing so many of her children die before her, and ultimately seeing the fall of the House of Valois despite her best efforts to prevent it. (Imagine having done one’s ‘Queenly Duty’ and given birth to 4 sons that lived to at least young adulthood , only for none of them to produce a legitimate male heir?! I would be enraged.)
@@StevvieD So did just about every single monarch at the time. It's just the double standard making it look way worse as soon as we're talking about a female monarch.
Fun Fact : Catherine de Medici was the great grand daughter of Lorenzo the Magnificent . The blood of Lorenzo lives on until today . Through her daughter claude she is the ancestor of Francis 1 Holy roman emperor and thus the ancestor of all living habsburgs . Through her daughter elisabeth she is the ancestor of the current spanish king Felipe and also louis alphonse ( Duke of anjou , Head of the bourbon family )
Catherine is my 13th great grandmother which makes Lorenzo the Magnificent my 15th great grandfather. Francis I also my 14th great grandfather. Charles V Holy Roman Emperor, Phillip II of Spain, Isabell and Ferdinand also my blood. This is due to the fact that the Dukes of Savoy, starting with Tomas, married princesses across the European spectrum. Amazing how many of these royals fought each other over religion, time and time again.
Can I suggest some videos on the women of the War of the Roses? Such as Margaret of Anjou, Elizabeth Woodville, Margaret Beaufort, Anne Neville, and Elizabeth of York (The first Tudor Queen)
I suggest Catherine de Medici: Renaissance Queen of France by Leonie Frieda. It fleshes out this biography and clears up a few errors in this narrative. She had a group of women courtiers who acted as sex workers and spies for her. This is how she kept her hold on the court. Just the politics between Catherine and the Guise family would blow your hair back. Not to mention her friend and later rival Jeanne d'Albret, Queen of Navarre and mother of Henry IV, 1st Bourbon King of France after all of Catherine's son die without heirs. The relationship between Jean and Catherine is complicated and heavily influences the politics of both France and Navarre. No mention of the historical rift between France and Spain that informed Henry II's life and deeply influenced both his relationship with his wife Catherine and his mistress, Diane de Poitiers. This is a fascinating and complicated period in the politics of Europe.
Will you not do a video about Maria Queen of Romania?She was a very fierce woman,with a deep love for the country that she was not born into.Her story is truly fascinating!
I bet she was the role model for Cersei Lannister from Game of Thrones. GRRM knows a lot about history, he must have known her life, and the parallels are certainly not a coincidence. Also remarkable: When she was regent queen, there were 2 other queens reiging in Europe - in a very male dominated world (Elizabeth I of England, and Mary Queen of Scottland). Also, the St Bartholomew's Night massacre could be the model for the Red Wedding in GoT.
GRRMartin was certainly inspired by catherine of medici without a doubt, a almost perfect fit for queen cersei lanister..... the red wedding could have been a mix between the bartholomews massacare post wedding party and of in scottish history ... the stabbings & beheading of the young earls of douglas by king James IV , as game of thrones was always X 1000 accelerated to actual real events....
@@mr.googoopants3581 The inspiration for Olenna actually is Countess Mahaut of Artois en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahaut,_Countess_of_Artois She is not a famous female ruler like Catherine, but she is a character in the book The Accursed Kings that GRRM loved and used as inspiration for Game OF Thrones. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Accursed_Kings
The sweets Catherine served at her wedding are sugared almonds (also called Jordan almonds). They’re almonds covered in a sugary shell, & they are delicious.
Absolutely, I would love to learn more about the “Women’s Castle”. Going to have to research that. Hope the info was correct. Thank you for the history lesson. Tried to watch Reign but couldn’t get past modern day music 😂
i get the feeling their fertility problems had more to do with the king, rather than her........ i guess she just secretly started getting it on with someone else.
It did. He apparently had hypospadias and the couple were advised to adopt a different position when in bed to ensure the act would be fruitful. (I'm trying to be respectful in my description...) 😊
@@vapidrabbit198 Actually Catherine really loved Henry II for some reason. When he died, she wore black (the color for mourning in France) for the rest of her life
@@vapidrabbit198 she really did love him though. She wasn't expected to be in with love the king, she was just expected to respect or obey him at the time, and she never conspire to kill him. I haven't heard of any proof and it doesn't really make sense considering Catherine was one of the people that beg him not to involved himself in the jousting match. Allegedly she had a dream or a vision that he was killed during jousting and Henry didn't believe her. He ignored all of the warnings and was killed. Even the person he was fighting against didn't want to do it. Also, Catherine expressed genuine grief over his death. Her daughter-in-law (Mary Stuart) tried to comfort her and was greatly moved by her grief
What she went through in her early marriage was horrific.To be sidelined by a greedy mistress ,have her children commendeered shows great strength of will. A truly underestimated individual.
This is wonderful. It means so much to be able to understand these names as real people. The women in power in those days...such extreme lives. They were quite formidable women and went through so much.
yes there are vids on this subject on youtube, one sitting in my recommended right now... if you look at asian history vids, you are bound to get a recommend.
Thank you for an informative video, Ms. Holiday. As you well know, Catherine de' Medici was known as the 'Peacemaker'' in France for her 1st 20 years there. She did her utmost to create peace between French Huguenots and Roman Catholics, but both sides were too deeply entrenched in their positions to consider compromise.
historic Cersei Lannister, except Catherine, loved her children and was way smarter and manipulative than Cersei, whereas Cersei taught she was smart and that she loved her children but in actuality, she justified her evil actions with one reason that she did all of that for her children.
I love the grey-blue dress she's wearing at 1:36. It really caught my eye for some reason. But as usual, your videos are always wonderful. Your presentation is excellent! (L. Isgrig in Northern, CA - 8/04/20).
I’m surprised that you didn’t mention that Diane & Catherine were actually related (their grandmothers were sisters), & the reason the French Court found her acceptable as a prospect for Francis’ **second** son, was _because_ she was half-French. Also- Diane fought for Henri & Catherine staying married, due to their kinship- she also nursed Catherine through illness, & Diane’s two daughters by her marriage (sorry, _Reign_ there’s no evidence she had a child by Henri) were important fixtures of the Royal Household. In comparison to his father & forebears (as well as plenty of those who came after him), Henri didn’t have nearly as many mistresses- Diane was the mainstay of his life; the other three were short-lived, &/ or at times he was away from Court, or she was - Mary of Scots’ governess - Nicole de Savigny & Filippa Duci- the last of whom had a daughter Henri _named for Diane_
Yes! Im do happy that you made this video. I'm eager to know more about her When Navarre became The king he reportedly said that Paris is worth A mass, as he converted to catholicism
Please do a video about Elizabeth Woodwille&Elizabeth of York. I think these two queens changed the history and their lives are very interesting and dramatic
I mean, is it really any wonder that Catherine became embittered and cold after how her husband flouted his mistress in front of her? His initials were even intertwined with Diane’s and he gave her the Crown Jewels.
um, which? there were many archduchesses of austria named ellisabeth. the wife of Charles IX of france (so queen Catherine's daughter in law), the wife of Casimir IV Jagiellon, + much more
Loved the video! The channel is amazing and always so well researched! Are you going to talk about Maria Leopoldina? She was Queen of Portugual before her husband abdicated for their daughter, Maria II of Portugal.
Margarite was never queen of France , as she was not capable of having children . She was divorced and Navarra married Maria de'Medici , a cousin of of Margarite.
I knew this was going to be good but it turned to be even better than I expected, a wild ride from the very start. BTW I hope that one day we may hear more about Henry's brief reign in the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, possibly in a video about Anna Jagiellon.
I got to know about the queen because of the foodservice subject i teach. I just know about her great influence in french cuisine but never imagined that her life was soo dramatic and colorful but a little bit sad.
Very interesting and educational video, it's also a very sad story about Catherine de Medici, who was completely victimized by her circumstances and her personal faults. Even though she was well educated and intelligent!
Lets be real tho. Catherine was a trend setter and thanks to her, she made things like the arts and italian delicacies much more popular throughout the world by taking her home and bringing it with her to France which then spread to other countries as time went on.
Where did you get that information from? Seeing from the letters Catherine and Elizabeth sent to each other it seemed like they had a mutual respect for each other.
@@M23786 Yes, that was truly well played by Elizabeth; Charles was considered "too young", Henri made religious difficulties, and then she almost went too far and married Hercule/Francois, the youngest.
Said by who? Elizabeth I considered marrying her son, or at least pretended to. The monarch she was ‘afraid’ of was Philip. Catherine represented no threat to Elizabeth: Her country was in complete ruin.
FYI the last syllable of “Huguenot(s)” is pronounced “no”, and the H is silent. The St Bartholomew’s Day Massacre was a major blot on Catherine de Medici’s reputation and legacy. It took decades for France to recover from its sanctioned persecution, torture and slaughter of French Protestants. On the other hand I have great sympathy for Catherine’s embarrassment at being supplanted in her husband’s affections by Diane de Poitiers. That must’ve made trying to have children with him uncomfortable at best and distasteful at the worst.
James V of scotland died when mary was 6 DAYS old, so mary became queen at that time. she was not 5 when this happened. but perhaps i misunderstood the way you worded this video. i do so enjoy your videos.
In 8th grade we had to do a project on figures from Renaissance Italy for History class. I chose Lorenzo, naturally... and relied entirely on Assassins Creed II to get me through it... and it worked. Got an A and the teacher enjoyed its little ‘flourishes’ so much that he kept the project, lmao.
@Laura Tenor & Hugenot incorrectly. Americans have tainted the pronunciation of English. I don't blame though as many words are not phonetically pronounced.
@@louvendran7273 you are probably right, but it is still hard on my ears to listen to certain Italian names mispronounced or rather, as you might put it, pronounced in an English way, time and again. I cannot help feeling relieved when I hear 'MEH-dee-chee' instead of 'muh-DEE-see' at least once. I am not saying that Miss Holiday is "flawless" in that sense. In fact "Claude" was not pronounced with proper French intonation. Nor that she should: I am not advocating for every name to be pronounced in their original languages. That would be silly. But I do appreciate when someone makes the effort.
Lol what is it with Kings called Henry wanting to divorce their wives called Catherine?
Some names were just very, very common.
Well they only had like 5 names to choose from
Weird but tru
Kings were Henry, Louis, Carl, Richard, William
Queens were Isabella, Catherine, Anne, Mary, Elisabeth
So yeah, diverse names
HAHAHAHAHA
Not good when being held prisoner in a convent are the happiest years of your life
Hanging out in a convent for long periods of time was often a good option for aristocratic women. Food, prayer, reading, music... it wasn't torture and it was a safe and respectable home.
To be fair, the convent that she grew fond of was a Medici sympathetic convent that was a sort of training school for young ladies and ran by retired ladies of society. But a prisoner none the less
Ikr... I'd be screaming GET ME OUT OF HERE!!!!
I can’t imagine how sad it would be for her children! To know that their birth wasn’t The happiest time of their life. 😂
She was a child...and was probably still treated ‘well’
Massive respect to Catherine. She respected different faiths and even tried to end the friction between Catholics Protestants in France. That's incredible for which the time she lived.
But the Wikipedia page on St. Bartholomew's day massacre lists her as one of the instigators.
@@anubratabit3027 that’s what I thought. I thought she hated Protestants but maybe not?
@@alexandriawalker8067 She got mad at them cause they tried to kill her and her son when she was trying to make peace. Her patience can only go so far
@@agatha6999 Yeah, I'd snap too. She extended herself and tried HARD to make peace. One can only take so much!
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Don’t lie half of us are from reign or the Medicis.
Estelove Kid Or both....
Amy Meyers same
Lol I'm here from Reign
How about both
Shes my grandmother 16 gens back.
Back then everything equals death 💀
Chills=death
Ear infection=death
Cough=death
Born=death
omg I’m so blessed to be born in this century
This death will never end
Alive
Right I was thinking damn a cold 🥶 took you out 😳
We often say nature is scary for the animals, but we forget how nature was scary for humankind back then.
Right they were literally dying from like common colds and I get them at least 4 times a year and sometimes don’t even take medicine and be perfectly fine😭😭
Cold* it*
While royals didn't marry for love back then, so I can understand why someone would want to have a mistress, that is so cruel how Henry II would rub it in Catherine's face.
You married for heirs and had a mistress for love. It wasn't uncommon for even queens to have lovers after having the heir and a spare, but was uncommon for a king to not have a lover.
@@jr-gh6eo Reread and comprehend my comment. Obviously it was a system that benefitted men.
@@Author.Noelle.Alexandria but queens was charge by death for having another lover.
@@idkimjustdarkfudgelol6896 Usually that happens when the Queen takes a lover without the King's permission. It's seen as adultery which was punishable by death. It sounds terrible, but woman back then had to listen and obey their husbands.
Yes but only males are allowed to have lovers but females could literally be hanged if they had lovers
Coincidentally I was watching Reign when this video was recommended.
Same
Same 🤔
She’s the best character in reign
Ajay Let true
I wanted to love that show, but couldn't get around the contemporary Fredericks of Hollywood "corsets" as outerwear and such. So many of the women's costumes were literally bought off the rack and still available to buy when the episodes aired.
I found out about Catherine in a romance novel about Henri & Diane. The author portrayed Catherine as a jealous, mean, & vindictive woman. How would any woman at that time be happy when her husband treated his mistress as a queen and publicly also.
What is the name of the book? Have you ever read The Master of All Desires by Judith Merkel Riley. Fun book and one of her best.
I suspect the book you read was The Courtesan by Diane Haegar (I am sure I misspelled the last name). I absolutely loved that book. Ever since, I have been angry at Catherine because of her barring Diane de Poitier from King Henri's death bed. The man spent about 25 years with the woman. Yes, yes. I know. Catherine was his wife and Henri was an adulterer but I still believe Diane and Henri should have been able to say good bye.
No I dont care about them saying goodbye. She first had a relationship with a 15 year old at 35 and continually harrassed is actual wife, she does not deserve that
What was the book?
Book?
Minor correction - Mary Stuart's father died when she was all of six days old. She came to France when she was five years old to escape what is known as 'the rough wooing'.
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Ah yes. "Rough wooing". Goodness.reading that made me want to gelded those old farts
Thank you I was about to correct
whats rough wooing
@@800faliha Google says it was part of the Scottish-Northern England War.
Rough wooing was Henry VIII who was Mary's great uncle trying to marry her to his son Edward.
My heart breaks for Catherine. I don't know how she survived all the loss she did, I mean she lost her parents, her husband and EIGHT of her ten children and on top of that she still loved Henry deeply, despite the fact he openly had lovers and wore their colours. She was a woman of her time and a survivalist if there ever were one, an admirable woman to say the least.
Historians have given her the dirty end of the deal until very recently. Talk about adding insult to injury.
Ive been interested in her history ever since watching Reign. This video was wonderful!!
Mhm! I also was interested in her after watching reign
i wish that show was more historically accurate haha
@@gracebailey8130 if it was, it wouldn't have been much fun
@@idkimjustdarkfudgelol6896 yeah I agree completely
I was interested in history when i was in school like 20 years ago
Catherine truly seems like a tenacious, dedicated leader and mother, with unique interests as well!
I can barely comprehend the anger and sorrow she must have felt seeing so many of her children die before her, and ultimately seeing the fall of the House of Valois despite her best efforts to prevent it. (Imagine having done one’s ‘Queenly Duty’ and given birth to 4 sons that lived to at least young adulthood , only for none of them to produce a legitimate male heir?! I would be enraged.)
Sadly, in those days, parents expected at least some of their children to die before them. :(
Sympathy after she killed 20,000?! She was a murderous she wolf female Machiavelli, I don't have any sympathy for her, she reaped what she sewed.
Yes, it was a horror show, all those badly sewed vestements.....
@@StevvieD those people tried to kill him and her son when she's trying to make peace lol. serves them right
@@StevvieD So did just about every single monarch at the time. It's just the double standard making it look way worse as soon as we're talking about a female monarch.
Fun Fact : Catherine de Medici was the great grand daughter of Lorenzo the Magnificent . The blood of Lorenzo lives on until today . Through her daughter claude she is the ancestor of Francis 1 Holy roman emperor and thus the ancestor of all living habsburgs .
Through her daughter elisabeth she is the ancestor of the current spanish king Felipe and also louis alphonse ( Duke of anjou , Head of the bourbon family )
Daughters rules
Guess she really stuck through it
Catherine is my 13th great grandmother which makes Lorenzo the Magnificent my 15th great grandfather. Francis I also my 14th great grandfather. Charles V Holy Roman Emperor, Phillip II of Spain, Isabell and Ferdinand also my blood. This is due to the fact that the Dukes of Savoy, starting with Tomas, married princesses across the European spectrum. Amazing how many of these royals fought each other over religion, time and time again.
@@peggyseville189 really? That’s amazing!
Been a long time fan of Catherine since Reign :)
SAME, SHE WAS SUCH A COOL CHARACTER. In the show and in life
I WAS WAITING FOR SOMEONE TO MENTION REIGN!!!
Love the medicis!! Very underrated “royal” family
Grand Ducal family
Claudio Pomponio that’s what I meant! As the family came from a banker-merchant class and did not achieve a noble status until generations later.
Agreed! I have the Medici house crest tattooed on my calf, done in Florence 😂
Underrated? They literally have a Netflix show about them which ran for 3 seasons and is very popular.
@@billieeyelash587 wait, what show?
Can I suggest some videos on the women of the War of the Roses? Such as Margaret of Anjou, Elizabeth Woodville, Margaret Beaufort, Anne Neville, and Elizabeth of York (The first Tudor Queen)
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I suggest Catherine de Medici: Renaissance Queen of France by Leonie Frieda.
It fleshes out this biography and clears up a few errors in this narrative.
She had a group of women courtiers who acted as sex workers and spies for her.
This is how she kept her hold on the court.
Just the politics between Catherine and the Guise family would blow your hair back.
Not to mention her friend and later rival Jeanne d'Albret, Queen of Navarre and mother of Henry IV, 1st Bourbon King of France after all of Catherine's son die without heirs. The relationship between Jean and Catherine is complicated and heavily influences the politics of both France and Navarre.
No mention of the historical rift between France and Spain that informed Henry II's life and deeply influenced both his relationship with his wife Catherine and his mistress, Diane de Poitiers.
This is a fascinating and complicated period in the politics of Europe.
WONDERFUL BOOK
A brilliant book and the audio version is very good too. I'm listening to it again at the moment.
Have you seen they made a series out of it for Starz?
Imagine if Reign was historically accurate and used 15 year olds for these roles 😩😩😩
I don't know what will happen
Imagine if Reign were just historically accurate...
I dont think its legal nowdays to let a 15 year ols prince interact with a 38 mistress…..
that would be weird
Or atleast an actor who looked 15
Will you not do a video about Maria Queen of Romania?She was a very fierce woman,with a deep love for the country that she was not born into.Her story is truly fascinating!
I love Marie of Romania
I bet she was the role model for Cersei Lannister from Game of Thrones. GRRM knows a lot about history, he must have known her life, and the parallels are certainly not a coincidence. Also remarkable: When she was regent queen, there were 2 other queens reiging in Europe - in a very male dominated world (Elizabeth I of England, and Mary Queen of Scottland).
Also, the St Bartholomew's Night massacre could be the model for the Red Wedding in GoT.
GRRMartin was certainly inspired by catherine of medici without a doubt, a almost perfect fit for queen cersei lanister.....
the red wedding could have been a mix between the bartholomews massacare post wedding party and of in scottish history ... the stabbings & beheading of the young earls of douglas by king James IV , as game of thrones was always X 1000 accelerated to actual real events....
Idk about that but i think the red wedding is taken from the St. Bartholomew's day massacre
I think Cersei was modeled after the English queen Margaret of Anjou while Catherine de Medici reminds me more of Olenna Tyrell..
There were three reigning Queens. Jeanne III of Navarre was the third one. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeanne_d%27Albret
@@mr.googoopants3581 The inspiration for Olenna actually is Countess Mahaut of Artois en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahaut,_Countess_of_Artois
She is not a famous female ruler like Catherine, but she is a character in the book The Accursed Kings that GRRM loved and used as inspiration for Game OF Thrones. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Accursed_Kings
The queen id like to hear about next is johanna the mad. The first queen we hear about in the insest and in breeding in europe
Queen Juana was not mad.First her father then her son keep her prisioner so they can keep the crown of Castilla.
@@marielonsdale1765 i was just suggesting doing a video anout her. She finaly did and im happy
I went to Chenonceau in 2015. It was lovely, and I found it hilarious that Catherine seized Chenonceau from Diane. (Diane was also her cousin.)
Yo....I’d have had Henry poisoned LOLLLL my cousin!??? That’s MAD!
Learning how Catherine seized Chenonceau from Diane - warms the cockles of me heart it does!
Catherine de medics a very interesting lady I'm so glad you have told her story great video thank you
The sweets Catherine served at her wedding are sugared almonds (also called Jordan almonds). They’re almonds covered in a sugary shell, & they are delicious.
Oh, here in Italy they are very common. I didn't know their origin. Thank you!
I’m really excited to learn about the chateau, it’s a beautiful building with a very unique history!
I am actually really excited too.
Absolutely, I would love to learn more about the “Women’s Castle”. Going to have to research that. Hope the info was correct. Thank you for the history lesson. Tried to watch Reign but couldn’t get past modern day music 😂
I also loved the Reign series. That is why I truly enjoy this video and anything that you've posted on royals all over the world from the past.
Can you do Queen Elizabeth of York the first Tudor Queen
I would love to see that as well, just to see a different point of view from “The White Princess”.
it's unfortunate that her father, brother, uncle, cousin, children and grandchildren all became kings and queens but not her
I would love to see a video of her too
I love the white princess its my favorite show and story that im currently rewriting as an saga
She's my favorite queen along with her granddaughter Elizabeth the first
i get the feeling their fertility problems had more to do with the king, rather than her........ i guess she just secretly started getting it on with someone else.
It did. He apparently had hypospadias and the couple were advised to adopt a different position when in bed to ensure the act would be fruitful. (I'm trying to be respectful in my description...) 😊
Kirsty J .... so... he was so inbred, his junk wasn’t even in the right place?
Poor Catherine was probably relieved that he wasn’t that in to her.
@@vapidrabbit198 Actually Catherine really loved Henry II for some reason. When he died, she wore black (the color for mourning in France) for the rest of her life
Miss Spice ...... or she wanted people to think she loved him, as she conspired with Nostradamus to kill him.
“Jousting accident”?...... I think not.
@@vapidrabbit198 she really did love him though. She wasn't expected to be in with love the king, she was just expected to respect or obey him at the time, and she never conspire to kill him. I haven't heard of any proof and it doesn't really make sense considering Catherine was one of the people that beg him not to involved himself in the jousting match. Allegedly she had a dream or a vision that he was killed during jousting and Henry didn't believe her. He ignored all of the warnings and was killed. Even the person he was fighting against didn't want to do it. Also, Catherine expressed genuine grief over his death. Her daughter-in-law (Mary Stuart) tried to comfort her and was greatly moved by her grief
Just to take a moment to appreciate the amazing portrait paintings...they are like photographs!
What she went through in her early marriage was horrific.To be sidelined by a greedy mistress ,have her children commendeered shows great strength of will. A truly underestimated individual.
The karma of her husband, the king and his mistress was long awaited. They deserved it
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jousting
What karma?? French Kings always had numerous mistresses
@@ucheokoroafor8273 that doesn't mean they can't have karma
Also, most French kings didn’t fondle their mistress’s breasts in full view of their court… Yeah, I’d say it was karma in action.
They showed valor in the joust i- 😶
The marriage night rituals are a total creep fest!
Lmao
Oh, dear God, the euphemisms...!
This is wonderful. It means so much to be able to understand these names as real people. The women in power in those days...such extreme lives. They were quite formidable women and went through so much.
I feel the most for Catherine de Medici and what she had to endure
*Mother and Father dies*
> Sent to live with her grandma
*grandma dies and sent with her aunt*
Me: Is her aunt gonna die too? 🤨
i used to think her name had something to do with medicine
funny
It does! "medici" in Italian means Doctors. It's probably because there was a guy who (they say) was a good thaumaturge in the XI century
Yassss!!! I don’t think I’ve clicked on a video fast enough 😆😆 my Reign heart can’t contain itself!!
Wow, that was a very depressing first couple minutes. She had a tough childhood.
You should do Wu Zetian or Dowager Empress Cixi next :)
There’s a video about Wu Zeitan already.
@@novemBURRbby Really?
Because I just looked through all our videos and I didn't see anything on Empress Wu
yes there are vids on this subject on youtube, one sitting in my recommended right now... if you look at asian history vids, you are bound to get a recommend.
Empress Dowager Cixi :0
Or Fu Hao, she is so underated
Last time i was this early, i made a joke about Anne Boleyn
but were you cut off?
@@alliemae895 lmao
Lindsay, I absolutely LOVE all your programs. They’re wonderful!
Thank you for an informative video, Ms. Holiday. As you well know, Catherine de' Medici was known as the 'Peacemaker'' in France for her 1st 20 years there. She did her utmost to create peace between French Huguenots and Roman Catholics, but both sides were too deeply entrenched in their positions to consider compromise.
historic Cersei Lannister, except Catherine, loved her children and was way smarter and manipulative than Cersei, whereas Cersei taught she was smart and that she loved her children but in actuality, she justified her evil actions with one reason that she did all of that for her children.
I love the grey-blue dress she's wearing at 1:36. It really caught my eye for some reason. But as usual, your videos are always wonderful. Your presentation is excellent! (L. Isgrig in Northern, CA - 8/04/20).
Elizabeth Woodville needs to be covered at some point.
How many women were named Catherine?
Like a third 🤷♀️
Too many
All of them!
Its either Catherine, Anne, or Elizabeth lol
Margaret, Anne, Elizabeth, Catherine, Mary, Caroline, Jane,... Not so many choices
I’m surprised that you didn’t mention that Diane & Catherine were actually related (their grandmothers were sisters), & the reason the French Court found her acceptable as a prospect for Francis’ **second** son, was _because_ she was half-French.
Also- Diane fought for Henri & Catherine staying married, due to their kinship- she also nursed Catherine through illness, & Diane’s two daughters by her marriage (sorry, _Reign_ there’s no evidence she had a child by Henri) were important fixtures of the Royal Household.
In comparison to his father & forebears (as well as plenty of those who came after him), Henri didn’t have nearly as many mistresses- Diane was the mainstay of his life; the other three were short-lived, &/ or at times he was away from Court, or she was - Mary of Scots’ governess - Nicole de Savigny & Filippa Duci- the last of whom had a daughter Henri _named for Diane_
You KNOW someone’s life is sad when the best years of her life coincide with your home being besieged and there being calls for your murder
this makes me wanna watch the whole Reign series again
Yes! Im do happy that you made this video. I'm eager to know more about her
When Navarre became The king he reportedly said that Paris is worth A mass, as he converted to catholicism
I was waiting for this one! Amazing as always Lindsay! 😊
Yasss I always look forward to Tuesday at 12 or 1 😁
Yesss! Finally!!! Thank you!
Yes. This is what I've been waiting for
LOVE THIS LINDSAY, THANK YOU.
Diane: "You have no power here"
Catherine: "Bet"
I’ve been fascinated with Catherine De Medici ever since I watched the show Reign
ridiculous that she suffered through so many labors and none of her well bodied sons who reached adulthood could bring themselves to produce heirs.
I'm currently writing an essay of royal families of the Renaissance and Protestand Reformation and this channel helps a lot! Thank you!
Do a video on Queen Liliuokalani, the last monarch of Hawaii.
Remember learning about her in grade school
Finally I was waiting for this thank you. ❤❤❤
Please do a video about Elizabeth Woodwille&Elizabeth of York. I think these two queens changed the history and their lives are very interesting and dramatic
I'm not too sure about them personally, but their clothes were definitely top notch!
Can I request about Mary queen of Scots in the future? I've always been interested in her.
I mean, is it really any wonder that Catherine became embittered and cold after how her husband flouted his mistress in front of her? His initials were even intertwined with Diane’s and he gave her the Crown Jewels.
I just love your videos. I was always a history buff. Thanks to my dad. I would like to learn more about Elisabeth of Austria.
um, which? there were many archduchesses of austria named ellisabeth. the wife of Charles IX of france (so queen Catherine's daughter in law), the wife of Casimir IV Jagiellon, + much more
Loved the video! The channel is amazing and always so well researched!
Are you going to talk about Maria Leopoldina? She was Queen of Portugual before her husband abdicated for their daughter, Maria II of Portugal.
They make me think of Pizza. Thanks Lindsay, youre doing your bit to keep us all sane!
Margarite was never queen of France , as she was not capable of having children . She was divorced and Navarra married Maria de'Medici , a cousin of of Margarite.
I look forward to all of your videos. I love European history and Literature. Keep them coming...
I knew this was going to be good but it turned to be even better than I expected, a wild ride from the very start.
BTW I hope that one day we may hear more about Henry's brief reign in the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, possibly in a video about Anna Jagiellon.
I often listen to your videos as I’m laying down . They are my bedtime stories lol
I got to know about the queen because of the foodservice subject i teach. I just know about her great influence in french cuisine but never imagined that her life was soo dramatic and colorful but a little bit sad.
yayyyy i was waiting for u to do her!!! plz do clarice orsini and mary queen of scots!!!
I didnt know about catherine when she was younger. quick and informative, love it.
Very interesting and educational video, it's also a very sad story about Catherine de Medici, who was completely victimized by her circumstances and her personal faults. Even though she was well educated and intelligent!
Lets be real tho. Catherine was a trend setter and thanks to her, she made things like the arts and italian delicacies much more popular throughout the world by taking her home and bringing it with her to France which then spread to other countries as time went on.
It was said that Elizabeth Tudor considered Catherine to be the one she was afraid of the most out of all the monarchs at the time
Where did you get that information from? Seeing from the letters Catherine and Elizabeth sent to each other it seemed like they had a mutual respect for each other.
Catherine desperately wanted to get one of her sons married to Elizabeth I .
@@M23786 Yes, that was truly well played by Elizabeth; Charles was considered "too young", Henri made religious difficulties, and then she almost went too far and married Hercule/Francois, the youngest.
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Said by who? Elizabeth I considered marrying her son, or at least pretended to. The monarch she was ‘afraid’ of was Philip. Catherine represented no threat to Elizabeth: Her country was in complete ruin.
People converting to other religions like that makes you realise its all just about power
When you realise that Diane de Poitiers would be considered Henry II’s abuser by todays standards
It puts a lot into perspective
Thankyou so much for the video’s Lindsay! You have a great voice! Lots of love 💗
Being born royal was no blessing...
Better than being a peasant
She wasnt a royal tho
@@franz3810 true, close enough to being one, though, for all intents and purposes (and obligations and risks).
I'm watching the serpent queen series, it's a nice rewriting of this story
Last time I was this early, Catherine’s husband didn’t have that many mistresses yet.
I’m so sick of these type of comments.
Patrick3183 well no one asked you to read them. Run along now and do something better with your time than smack talking online.
Brett Larch Wow, you’re really early
Vu Loc Ngo lol 😂
FYI the last syllable of “Huguenot(s)” is pronounced “no”, and the H is silent. The St Bartholomew’s Day Massacre was a major blot on Catherine de Medici’s reputation and legacy. It took decades for France to recover from its sanctioned persecution, torture and slaughter of French Protestants. On the other hand I have great sympathy for Catherine’s embarrassment at being supplanted in her husband’s affections by Diane de Poitiers. That must’ve made trying to have children with him uncomfortable at best and distasteful at the worst.
James V of scotland died when mary was 6 DAYS old, so mary became queen at that time. she was not 5 when this happened. but perhaps i misunderstood the way you worded this video. i do so enjoy your videos.
She was sent to France at 5 yrs old. That's what she meant.
I was waiting for you to say “and her aunt died the next day” 🤣
Queen Catherine was ahead of her time. A truly strong and intelligent woman with a cheating husband.
Great video! If anybody likes this era I would suggest the show Reign. Not precisely accurate of course but pretty damn good.
You should probably do a video about Royal Pretenders people who pretend to be royal to get anything they want to get satisfied
Maria Kelly oh I thought they meant people who said they were royal to get stuff and they got killed and stuff
In 8th grade we had to do a project on figures from Renaissance Italy for History class. I chose Lorenzo, naturally... and relied entirely on Assassins Creed II to get me through it... and it worked. Got an A and the teacher enjoyed its little ‘flourishes’ so much that he kept the project, lmao.
Started to read La Reine Margot and I was so lost with all the characters, this already helps me situated myself a little more!
I've seen people ask for this video non-stop! I know basically nothing about this Queen, so I've been very intrigued about this
fucking loved the actress who played her in "reign"
Megan follows
Catherine deserved so much better.
The doctor 'advised' them and after 10 years they had 10 children? I guess he did more than advise. 🤔
I've been waiting for this video for so long thank you!!!
Finally! An English speaker who pronounces Medici correctly!
@Laura Tenor & Hugenot incorrectly. Americans have tainted the pronunciation of English. I don't blame though as many words are not phonetically pronounced.
@@louvendran7273 you are probably right, but it is still hard on my ears to listen to certain Italian names mispronounced or rather, as you might put it, pronounced in an English way, time and again. I cannot help feeling relieved when I hear 'MEH-dee-chee' instead of 'muh-DEE-see' at least once. I am not saying that Miss Holiday is "flawless" in that sense. In fact "Claude" was not pronounced with proper French intonation. Nor that she should: I am not advocating for every name to be pronounced in their original languages. That would be silly. But I do appreciate when someone makes the effort.
It was very interesting to hear the history of the Queen. Thank you!
Watching this in 2022 because of “The Serpent Queen” on Starz 🎉🎉🎉🎉