When I worked for the Canadian government somebody created a web version of a policy manual which corrected the many grammatical mistakes. Since the original was approved and the two had to be consistent, they had me personally go through the web version to re-insert the hundreds of grammatical mistakes.
O M G.... what a waste of time!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! I will go in a room and destroy some boxes to vent. Then maybe I"ll come out after exhausting my anger to do this work.
I discovered what coding was in 2009 in my freshman of engineering school... The school set up made me hate it...and I dif drop out when I researched what engineers really do and how bad shit is... Now I understand how important coding is and I wish I had Learned it on my own but fucking engineering school put me off, it wasn't even useful language like python or Java.. It was some outdated shit not even internet related
"You are converting LIFE FORCE.. for salary". The truth is too real. I have a high skill government job and most of my older colleagues are just husks of what a free and happy human being use to be. It was really motivating seeing that and taking control of my life and avoiding that path. Always inspirational hearing similar stories from others.
lol, i feel for you buddy....you have a long time to go. Hey, just make sure you are the one helping the project manager's set dates for milestones.....it needs to be YOU as the engineer telling the project manager what is feasible date wise and if more work is added, modify the dates and/or request assistance. Cover yourself to be a success on every project. Travel sucks the worst when you're trying to raise a family and be home.
BeatTheBush it's because in just a few months I realized that all this company culture n transparency talk is all HR speak that they fed us and mgmt at my company is all focused on small 1-2 percent improvements so they can pat each other on the backs instead of big picture changes that need to be made that anyone with half a brain can see needs to be made. Might also just be because my company is a big company with like 20k ppl idk how it is in small firm's
Akhil P over 10 years of engineering for me so far. It gets better man. Trust me! (Not srs...everyday is the worst day of your life. Watch the movie Office Space lol)
@@BeatTheBush The difference between an engineer and a technician is the ability to know good data from bad, and allow for it in your design work. It's also engineers who create the stuff to begin with!
We, the unwilling, having been lead for so long by the unknowing, have been doing so much, for so long, with so little, we're now almost qualified to do almost anything with nothing.
I know what you mean with the bureaucracy... Just yesterday I got reprimanded by my boss for not putting the new cover sheets on my TPS report. And get this, he even asked for me to come into work on Sunday!
Michael Jay - Value Investing That's not bureaucracy. That's scapegoating and worker abuse! Get out ASAP! Change boss with the same company if possible. Quit otherwise. You will only get hurt if you stay!
Michael Jay - Value Investing That's not bureaucracy. That's scapegoating and worker abuse! Get out ASAP! Change boss with the same company if possible. Quit otherwise. You will only get hurt if you stay!
Didn't you get the memo? You should listen to hardcore gangster rap in the car like I do omw to work. Really helps in traffic. (Just make sure to turn it down and lock your doors if anyone passes by)
I am so happy the younger generation is sorta realizing en masse that they DON'T have to follow in our footsteps! I love that creative minds like yours are figuring out ways to contribute to society, make money for themselves, and change the overall culture to be more accepting of a new way of doing things. Staying stagnant is a slow death. Being flexible & willing to change & try new things is how we grow stronger!
CHSwildcats19 I somewhat agree with this perspective. However, there are also many airheads on RUclips who are not improving society and getting paid to promote useless garbage.
I am M.S. Engineering, I retired at age 50 because of the same reasons. I thought I would build up a private business, however I am just not power and money hungry to fight the commute to get money-rich , instead running out on the off peak hours to meet with like minded value centered friends... I am thinking many engineers prefer engineering themselves an efficient minimalist safe life and having great educational times. The marketing and business power and money crazed individuals,like,to fantasized about what they would accomplish if they had passed engineering, however most engineers use their degrees to retire early and go fishing!
@Maintenance Renegade didnt expect to see a MGTOW here . ignore it its not worth talking to it.i wish you the best in every thing you do brother :D .btw mgtow is exploding in stem. google "mgtow berckley" we are every where :D
1:00 The Problem, demonstrated 2:05 (1) Bureaucracy (2) Paper Work (3) Commuting (4) Work Social (5) Ideas are not yours (6) No Freedom to work on what you want. (7) Earnings Potential Capped (8) Reached financial security point. 7:55 Not solely relying on RUclips. 8:23 In summation
When you work at a large high tech firm, 80% of your effort is spent creating presentations that will be used by your managers to jockey for their own careers at your expense.
In all seriousness if you can make the case that you were the better worker you probably have a good wrongful termination lawsuit case. You should probably talk to a lawyer about it.
John smith you're funny. Are you in the United States? If so, good luck ever proving that if you're ever in Eric's position in real life. It is doubtful the work is quantifiable in that way. The boss can make up some other lie as to why the mistress stayed while you did not and that'll probably be the end of the road. I'm also doing to make the assumption that if you're unemployed, money starts to get tight, so good luck again with paying a lawyer for something that probably wont work out in the end for you. On the other hand, your company has plenty of money to pay for better lawyers that you couldn't afford... so you aint winning this case without serious, hard evidence and proof... which you aren't going to have
I left corporate america BECAUSE NOBODY WANTS TO WORK!!!!! I was surrounded by "smart imbeciles" -- people who had brains but never applied themselves and just counted the hours off. Every. Single. Day. It was infuriating. They would basically try to get away with doing little work, with as little quality as possible -- and bosses don't give two craps and never did anything about it. Most of these people were in their 40s or more -- doing the same thing for way too long -- and were PAID TOO WELL to switch jobs or careers. I was doing the work of 2 or 3 people and eventually burnt out. The problem is a lot of them went into software for the money, and a better life for themselves, but NEVER for the passion. Nearly all were naturalized citizens, originally from 3rd world countries. I understand their motivation and reasoning for going into software -- and I loved them as people. However, I resented them as coworkers. They get a bit older, a bit established, get that nice cushy job, and then their lack of interest and passion manifests as extremely poor work ethic. And I was surrounded by them everywhere I went.
There are a few of those in every company. Those that doesn't do much work or just talks. You get a few who are hard workers and things just work also. So it's a mix.
I am a software engineer worked in corporate america for almost 10 years ditto story bad bosses bureaucracy office politics lazy upper and middle management counting years in their chair to retire like deathbodies
🌹My son just got his degree from UC Davis. The UC’s definitely grind the factory worker mentality into geniuses. I had to give him YOUR Speech regarding corporate America because TIME is your most valuable asset. Having worked in corporate America myself and loving it at times but realizing all the things you just said, I need him to realize his potential while being young and his creative still exists. #ILoveThisVideo 👍🏼
What can I say, I went through it myself and worked for many years. It does bring in money. So if you bring it in, at least not squander it and get out as soon as you can.
That’s the Prussian education system, produce workers that are just smart enough to work all day every day but not smart enough to question “authority”.
perfectscotty I agree. It may have been adequate in the mid-to-late 19th century, but the problem is that we're clinging to it in a world that has changed fundamentally. I truly hope that our civilization doesn't succumb to its own inertia and that one day our grandchildren will be able overcome our self-imposed limitations and look back in horror at the unbelievable amounts of time, energy and potential that we wasted.
I'm interning as a Mech-E at a small company and I thought "I will never work here, they pay much less than other companies for engineering work." But you know why they pay less? Vacation is easy to get and the work environment is incredibly comfortable even for the stressful positions. Plus if you have a good idea the higher ups will at the very least give you a solid listen. That's huge! I will probably work for them if they offer me a job out of college.
DoubleAIV I'd rather not say. All I'll say is it's a small local company in the Pacific Northwest ;) And by small I mean like 150 employees, and "engineering" is a room with four guys. Haha
I'm very familiar with a lot of what you speak of here. In many ways my current job/company are the same. My commute is miserable and I sometimes feel so burned out I need to lay down for a bit after I come home at the end of the day. I'd really like to figure out how to work for myself. I think that will enable me to do other life goals like moving closer to relatives and friends on the other side of the country.
I quit my 40 hour work week job for a 30 hour work week job, it changed my life. Money doesn't make me happy, time/freedom does. Im so much happier now, i finally have energy at the end of the day to DO the things i loved. That extra 10 hours shaved off my work week really does wonders.
I think people do not realize what getting even 25% of your time is worth. How much salary cut you are willing to take to get that 25% of time back is more than you think.
It sounds crazy to those who didn't do it yet. It is actually incredibly scary. Like leaping off a tall building. I do have gatherings sometimes in different cities.
He is using legos to communicate to people who would not understand his message otherwise (brodening his audience)...like kids, politicians, mangers, directors, etc.....:)...hahahhaha.
Thanks Beat The Bush for this video. I hate the "politics" of being in a job, for example you know that you are the best person to be promoted but it goes to someone who the boss "favours" over because of their personality versus promoting the person who would do the best job.
I'd say shift your thinking about what best is. BEST is combination of skills and soft skills. You want that promotion? Start from the very beginning of when you meet your new boss. Ehh... I would have to say... suck up but do it with good taste and not so obviously.
Not just that, but also as long as the ones who's gotta evaluate your performance and intelligence are average people, you will be unrecognized. So, your qualfications don't matter at all. Also, they will not listen to you when you know what should be done and so on...
I'm even not mentioning the corporate culture. That fake formal environment, and the expectations of you to treat each other offically nice or whatever, as if you care about anyone or even the job itself...
AJ213 That's why I suggested a 2nd channel for engineering. Thanks @Huynherful didn't realize he already had a second channel for DIY stuff, would be cool to see more engineering related stuff there. With the growing "maker" community, could be popular.
I think this one is appropriate for engineering - to monitor developments in AI and robotics and subsequent impact to job market. STATE OF AI Currently AI is way more advanced than people realize. For instance, with written descriptions, AI can generate photo quality images of specific birds and flowers. And since 2014 it can distinguish similar objects, (such as a dog from a cat, and the left aside of a car from the right side) an advancement not previously possible. This means *lower demand* for talent - and only the best where needed. It can diagnose illnesses in minutes, rather than in weeks and has a near 100 percent accuracy rate.
Just today I release a DIY clean your radiator video on my second channel. So yeah, all the stuff not related to money will go there. Channel 'BeatTheBush DIY'
Work has good and bad points but doing your own thing is always better. They use you so you might as well use them to get what you want. When I first started working I was building my career and sacrificed my life for the job but eventually I learned they have no loyalty to you, they just take. So eventually I decided to use the job for my own benefit so I would be set up for life when I left. Screw them.
My experience is they always try to give the illusion of security because they have to. Once revenue goes down for one quarter, KKKKKK! you're laid off.
A job is essentially a hedging agreement. You don’t get the full gains from your ideas, but you also don’t get the full loss either. Taken to the extreme, a company could go bankrupt, while you just jump ship onto the next job. The key is to manage the hedge to your personal level of risk/reward.
Hat's off to you. Job satisfaction is important to Millenials. I deeply respect and admire that. Anything you give 1/3 of your life to should enrich you mentally as well as financially. I know some would begrudge you for giving up something so coveted, but that's their problem.
BeatTheBush _ No. To me you sound "woke." You're neither the first nor the last to make such a move. In the mid 80s, I read a book called, "Oh Come Ye Back to Ireland." A power couple based in NY making high 6 figures gave up fab jobs to live on inherited rural property in Ireland. They had talked about it for years and finally took the plunge. They didn't regret it.
Interesting video. I think one point you missed or maybe just encapsulated into a couple other points without going into much detail is the fact that a lot of the time, your performance is being evaluated by people who weren't really STEM-smart enough to go into engineering themselves. This could be lumped into the bureaucracy point, but this has been one of my frustrations with the field. There's also the fact that management often operates on a different value system than technical professionals. While someone who has to communicate and work with technical details will necessarily be blunt and descriptive, someone who works in a "customer-facing" role will gravitate toward a different communication style that values positivity and salesmanship over bluntness and rawness. A lot of the time, what would be interpreted positively by technical colleagues would be interpreted negatively by management.
You've reminded me of a good reason to stay as a substitute educator, instead of going for the contracted position. As a sub, I have so much freedom, from how much I work, to what I do on the job, to the people I don't have to answer to. A full-time position at the same place every day would enmesh myself in the school politics and bureaucracy you speak of. Been there, done that already in my life with previous careers.
After working my way through college at a gas station earning minimum wage, commuting to school 40-50mins, I see my engineering job coming up as a huge blessing. I've been humble/poor my whole life so I'm willing to do whatever I can for a better life. Yeah it sucks - the drive, bureaucracy, etc, but life is always about priorities, I'm just tired of being broke. We will always be complaining about something, but remembering your roots makes it easier to live with.
Try living in Canada and commuting during the winter. I wish I commuted in a state like California. This is commuting in Canada from November until late March/early April. Step one, wake up an hour earlier. Step two. Start your car from your house/apartment with starter. Step 3. Wait for car windshield and windows to defrost. Step 4. Go out and chip away at the ice and snow that has accumulated the night before during one of the many whiteouts we get while it's -25c. You talk about energy being almost all gone by the time you get to work? Most of mine is gone before I even start the drive. I get what you are saying tho. Do what makes you happy, period.
This is why I respect your channel. Content like this. Teaching people to think out of the box instead of shooting every idea down and being content with the status quo. The reality is the winners in life are usually the ones who solves problems.
Everything you described is the problem with every job ever.. Lol. This is what it entails to work for some one else.. You trade time/ideas for a salary and must conform to their standards and expectations. Only way to avoid this is to work for yourself and be your own boss. If I had a good idea on how to earn a living on my own, then I'd do it.. as of now I have no intentions of selling water bottles on the side of the road however so I'll stick to being a logistics supervisor.. Lol.
Reasons 1 through 7 are pretty much reasons why I never really feel like going out and getting a job (and I will add that I relate a bit more to reason 3). Another is that work can get quite boring and drag on for what feels like ages, as I experienced in my two most recent work placements via the education centre in which I studied at the time (and still study, due to my failure in my most recent English exams and my reluctance to claim my place in a college course to which I applied, because of that and a past experience at another college). I try to explain this to my parents whenever I see the opportunity to, but they just won't understand. My dad is the worst when it comes to this. Because of my persistent lateness to the education centre at which I study, he would sometimes suggest that I get a job if I didn't like going. He would sometimes compare himself, my mum and my sister (we all live in one house at the moment) to me whenever he sees the opportunity. He even did that once when saying grace. (He sometimes mentions unrelated things to the dinner that we're eating when saying longer graces, but this was going too far.) I was working on a video project (I'm still working on it to this day, partly because there are also a few items that I need for it that I still can't find and I will add that this is one of the projects that I'm counting on to be my ticket out of English) which required pictures from my old laptop which has a broken charging port, I looked for good prices for repair and when I finally found one good, cheap price and texted my dad about it, he flat out refused to take my old laptop to get its charging port fixed and even nagged me once again about getting a job, about which I unsuccessfully argued. (He found me a few one-off weekend jobs, for doing which he mentioned the amounts that I would be paid. I only agreed to do them for the money, but I couldn't get up for either of them. The only way that I was able to muster the money was through bursary at the education centre and even then, I received a suggestion that I buy another 20 volt charger for that laptop, leading me to waste money on one that won't even work with the charging port. (The shopkeeper must've used another type of charger for my laptop when I brought it over, which actually worked.)) Granted, none of my parents are absolute ogres, but I'd rank this up there as one of their worst qualities, especially my dad's. I just hate how inexorable they can be when I explain my reasons why I don't want a job. One thing that I'll mention in regards to what I've typed above, though, is that I do now kind of hate going to that education centre. I just hate that I still remain after all that I've done and tried to do. I hate that there are staff members there working to get me into a work placement that only somewhat relates to what I want to do, just so I can get experience for that (I want to be a games designer and developer), let alone a fifth in the space of seven years from Year 11 to now. I hate that I now, as of sometime during the autumn term, have to abide by a thirty-minute arrival rule to prepare me for jobs, because of my persistent lateness to a place of education and a work placement, to which I have grown to not care about going anymore. Even before I applied to that college course last year, my goal was to get my work out there, to prove that I can do English. Sometime after I applied and uploaded a compilation project to RUclips to little to no fanfare, I had a plan to prove my worth to any exam board and to remain in education if I succeeded to get through to anyone working for that exam board and drop out if I failed. Failing my Level 2 English exams, I ultimately decided to prove my worth to the exam board with which they were associated. Now that I'm still working on a few projects and in the middle of another academic year, I just want out, no matter what. (Please forgive my ramblings.)
greentealatte golden handcuffs. They throw $$$, pension and benefits at you. The job itself is corporate and suck massivr ass but you cant leave because of the handcuffs(I.e $$$)
You are so spot on with your points. It's the same in biopharma. 3rd layoff in 9 years, so now I'm taking time to focus on building my own biz. Never been happier, despite not making much at the moment.
You’re so right about it being more about the paperwork than the actual engineering work. I waste so much time in prep meetings going over the slides of a presentation where all people do I complain about the formatting. Like “make that arrow a different color” “put a red box around this part” “put a green smile face next to this” etc.. it drives me crazy, but it’s a paycheck
Sales Engineering (Sales Engineer or SE) might be a great place for you. It allows for a lot of freedom and creativity. You're not tethered to a desk or on a boss' leash like so many other technical positions. You have to perform (do well at your job) but as long as the numbers are good (in general) you can do it how you wish. Since it's not a total engineering technical position you can work on things that are unrelated to your company's product and if you are able to show it was done on your time it's your property. There typically is some level of reporting/paperwork but in many cases it's only minutes a week. Earning potential is usually much more than the 100's so there's that. Don't box yourself in - just because your an EE doesn't mean you have to do only EE type work.
Thank you. Finally someone else who isn't trying to climb the corp ladder and is confident about that decision. I never wanted to be a manager or a trainer. I do phones and am super good at it. I give my all to THEIR clients and my creativity, when that should be for me and a speaking career or whatever. Great videos and I appreciate you making them. I'm about to retire super early and your vids really give excellent insight.
The way I think of it is that climbing the corp ladder takes too long and often not really up to your efforts. You can work to your maximum abilities for a decade and not progress at the mercy of your manager. That is not a good deal.
Fantastic account of what it's like to work for a company/someone else. The entire process of working for someone else from commuting to the minutia involved in the job. You hit the nail on the head about it ALL. Great to see a UCLA grad telling the truth of it all! I just found your channel. Looking forward to other topics you get into!
The nice thing about engineering is that it's one of the "big three" professions (along with medicine and law) where you can pay your dues for a little while then start your own firm and make your job to suit you. If you don't like working for The Man, become The Man and work for yourself.
Make sure you have enough credits with Social Security so you are eligible for Medicare when you turn 65. If not, get a PT job so you can earn those credits.
This is wonderful! Regarding using your engineering knowledge, could you please make basic how-to videos on building circuits, simple devices, etc.? I am very interested in learning, but I think that the whole "you can get electrocuted or your house might blow up" idea scares me. I exaggerate, but you get the idea.
VV VB. - No need to wait for BTB. I promise, you can find those on YT already and on low cost how to online tutorials that allow you to work at your own pace. Also online community pages related to computer engineering.
Not knowing how one gets electrocuted makes it dangerous. But if you know how it works, then you can mostly take precautions to avoid it. How to EE? I've been thinking of doing something like that. Will upload on my other channel 'BeatTheBush DIY'.
Praggy Pops Q&A, that's true--I've learned how to do basic car and house maintenance from RUclips. The issue with electric stuff though, it's that I don't know where the advice is coming from. Plus, BTB has a habit of breaking down the information to very basic levels, which is ideal for someone of my level.
Beat the bush can describe for us the THREE elements of any electrical circuit: resistance, capacitance and inductance. It's so easy...hard to believe we spend 4 to 8 years in EE....WHEN THERE'S ONLY THREE ELEMENTS of electricity.
I love it! Exchange money for life energy :) You are absolutely right. I've also finished Engineering so it's very true what you say. That's why I decided in 2008 to start my own world by setting first business :)
I did 3 years of engineering classes, really didn’t like it, so I’m changing majors to Game Design (which I’m really looking forward too). Engineering is really draining mentally, takes all of your sleep away, and free time as well. And in general it isn’t that fun, not worth the grind for a lifetime unless you are kinda a stick in the mud, no offense to anyone. Follow your dreams everyone.
At work there is an engineer about to retire. I hardly here him talk about work, he does what he does and does it good. But in conversations he talks about trying new things, living in France in 5 years, traveling I see engineering is more of a means to an end/goal than engineering being a goal / life dream itself
I waited so long that it took less guts than earlier. Some are surprised I would even switch jobs coming from those who work for a company for 10+ years.
Awesome video - congrats on being able to reduce your burn rate so you can live how you want to live! Yes I definitely agree that bureaucracy sucks but unless you’re the boss, or have a company like the one I work for that actually cares about your opinion, it will be a big reason man people quit their jobs... PS. How did you come up with your name for the channel?
Beat The Bush is short for "Beat Around The Bushes" which means not getting to the point. Later on, it seemed appropriate to assume getting to the point of not getting to the point and you get Beat The Bush.
am transitioning from a full-time position to a part-time position , this is my last week as a full timer I'm so happy 😁 and can not wait till I receive my part time schedule
random: while i agree with what you said about paperwork, i just wanna give a shout-out to everybody else who has to spend time into documentation. as a person who uses open-source software alot, i'm super duper grateful towards documentation cause otherwise, i would have died trying to compile and use those softwares. and i'm also super grateful towards my colleagues who have consistently done a great job at documentation before handing their portion over to me. so yeah. focus on the reason for documentation. maybe that'll make you feel better about doing it. cause you have to do it anyway.
I don't know about the work but I feel like engineering in school is sucking the life force out of me. I only have 3 semesters left and I'm still making 40's on my exams. If I fail a class again this semester and my graduation is delayed again im legit going to go into a really bad depressed state.
I feel you. It doesn’t matter how much money you make. If your unhappy at a job then it’s time to go 🖕🏽. Better to work for yourself then someone else all day.
Dude, I can relate to everything you're saying. I quit my job a year ago and started my own company, it got me asking myself why I worked so long in corporate. I got more done in 3 months than we used to get done in a year at the previous company, because of bureaucracy. I think most corporations are designed to be risk-averse, as a result, they tend to become extremely bureaucratic. I share the same sentiment as you, even though I am based in a completely different part of the world.
You cannot avoid reporting. Your up line needs it to report up, your report also impt for them to understand any problems clearly and get any help/resource u need to close the project. Well you could call it paperwork.... Anyway gd luck doing your own thing dude.
Wow i felt exactly the same way! I have a masters degree in electrical engineering and although i wouldnt say it was a waste of time studying it because i am still interested in engineering but the corporate work lifestyle is not for me. Im sure there are good jobs out there but they are hard to find and get. I had to work with some difficult and boring people and it was draining my life and freedom. The number 1 reason other than that is that the pay in the UK is EVEN WORSE. You will be lucky to see even half of six figures unless you are in a big company with lots of experience and responsibility then you might, just might, see £50k (taxed down to £35k)
I enjoy your videos. that says a lot because I am high maintenance. I hate wasting time and the fact that I watch your videos means that your videos are of quality. Thanks for making them.
Yes those are all good reasons and I could add a lot more. It took me most of my life but I finally got out and started my own business. My number one issue with working for a company is that they refuse to acknowledge any exceptional performance or skills. They can not single you out, they have to treat everyone the same. So while that is good for most people it is not good for those who excel at what they do. After you have given your all they show you your evaluation report and tell you they are not allowed to give anyone a perfect score. This is how they slow salary growth and make sure other employees don't start asking for more to keep up with you. In the end you feel very unappreciated and beaten. Now that I have my own business I don't dread going to work anymore and I can pat myself on my back and give myself a perfect score everyday. It's a good way to live.
Liked you from the first time, probably because it's real without all those WOW! Welcome to my greatest YT Channel. Just made two videos and finding that the best it to BE YOURSELF !!!
I’m a senior in electrical engineering. I’m a “top” student in my graduating class..... yet I feel that I’ve basically learned nothing. I’m not really interested in all of this. I’m just trying to finish and graduate and Pursue Art and Professional Organization....I HAVE AN ENGINEERING JOB. And I feel very blessed for the company I have. My boss is willing to explain things to me and somehow doesn’t make me feel like an idiot despite him seeming like a genius..... I don’t know how I’ll get through this final year but I’m going to try my best. I really appreciate this video. I want to graduate to COMPLETE this part of my life without wondering “what could’ve been” in the future. Thank you!!!!!
Upper Echelon bro I fucking sucked at Math and felt the same way you did. Then I decided to stop being a bitch and focusing lol that's what I would tell myself and literally my whole perspective changed. I took Calculus 2 and got a 94 I took Calculus 3 and got a 97 and finally took Ordinary Differential Equations and got a 92. Its all about the mentality with which you approach the subject. Granted I was a F and D math student in highschool.
I get C's in general maths classes but my other classes that are similar to mathsI get A's sometimes lol I think I'll stick to teaching myself and working. Peace
After decades as an elec engineer ultimately what I found was this. In a typical day actual engineering constitutes maybe 10% of your day once averaged out. The other 90% is filled with managerial, admin, office and client activities.
Your reference to the feeling that your life was getting sucked out of you during your commute was exactly what I experienced when working full time for a healthcare corporation. I detest the corporate mentality, and I tend to get an attitude. I don't socialize too well, and have trouble attending events, groups, etc. for the purpose of satisfying some unspoken expectation simply because I work for the company. So, in my early 50's I decided it was enough, and went part-time. I bought a couple of houses and modified the garage into a "mother in law" but rent it separately. In the years since, I have sold one house, but still have two, plus my own. I am alone, so have to pull my own train. I still work, but part-time, and that suits me very well. Your life is irreplaceable, and any time you are going against who you are and your inner gyroscope, you are off the path. You are living the "self-actualized" life, and one that many would give their teeth to have.
One thing is for sure, I compare the two situations and after quitting is much better. It's hard to quantify as 2x better? 4x? 10x? I seriously couldn't believe I did it at what was an impossible dream.
I am about to do the same. I had an office space moment. My boss wanted me to process 12 items I said "ok, 12 items, gotcha." He interjected "no, that's not what I'm saying. You have the minimum of 12 items." "So you want more than 12?" "No, you are not understanding..." Yes, this was an actual conversation.. In Silicon Valley Sigh... I hate it.
I've been wrestling literally for YEARS wiether or not to quit going to school for electrical engineering. Halfway through I took a break to join the Air Force and go to work so I could get married and make some money. This video really helps me think. I've wrestled with feelings of...slavery, not having my own life. Sounds like you had similar feelings and ended up quitting! Probably will end up finishing up my enlistment and go work for a drone or UAV company doing avionics, currently working avionics for the F35. thanks for the video.
You hit the nail on the head! These are the exact reasons I started my own company. Your #5 is so true, when I realized it, I was appalled, couldn't wait to get out.
Be aware that RUclips careers usually don't last too long. Many just dwindle down after a while because people get tired of it just like people grow tired of tv shows on TV or whatever.
Money doesnt equal happiness.....its sad some people need more money to make them happy.....I was on the same spot, but I got layed off before I could quit....I'm going to learn trades to have a more easy going life
I've been an engineer for 7 years and I am hoping to get out. I agree with virtually everything you said here. I thought mechanical engineering was building rockets and making brilliant ideas work. Boy was I wrong.
Never commuted in my life... never understood why people don't arrange their lives in such a way as to earn a living without having to do that... You will NEVER get all those hours back - that doesn't count the stress and exposure to maniac drivers on cellphones.
I think because it's HARD. In a way, I do feel like I wasted a lot of time already. But at least I can say I've been through this corporate stuff to talk about it.
Did you ever consider that _all_ work has to be done by _someone_ and most jobs can only be done away from home? People who commute every day; factory workers, bureaucrats, electricians, cleaners, dentists, garbage collectors, police officers, etc... without these people doing their jobs, nobody else could work at home, because society would not exist.
I mostly disagree - excepting for heavy industry, large construction, public service, government employees and bureaucrats. The latter would do even less work unsupervised than they do now. I have run 4 different businesses from my home over 40 years. Wholesale & custom metal fabrication - a small "factory" of sorts. A hands on training school for up to 6 students at a time. A machine shop, and welding/repair shop. Very low overhead, no bank loans, no commuting. Over the years I've employed part time workers and a couple of of full time workers. Two of the employees lived down the street and had to walk a whole half a block. We boarded the other two. You've not traveled much? Asia? South America? In Mexico, for example - in most of the pueblitos, the owners of the businesses live on the second floor. At street level the doctor has her office and surgery. The doc I used to see was trained at Stanford. You can walk up to the door 24/7, ring the bell - and she will come downstairs, let you in and treat you. She sewed up the sole of my foot after I stepped on some glass barefoot. Next door is the Farmacia which is owned by another family and they will get you your prescriptions 24/7 as well. Ground floor businesses are very secure, with roll down steel doors for night hours and glass fronts during the day. 24 hour security is provided by the family living upstairs... along with a dog or two as an alarm system. The same is done with restaurants, small corner groceries, car mechanics, dentists, furniture stores, appliance stores and repairs of all kinds. Why this is not a "customary" lifestyle in the USA I do not know? We do have a lot of pretty silly zoning and construction ordinances in the USA... Cities and towns are not planned or laid out in this way - because those very planners were never taught that rows of businesses with private residences upstairs were an excellent way to use space and utilities. Nor are the architects of all those single story, stand alone businesses. Restaurants, franchises, repair shops, apparel and shoe stores, coffee shops, and other businesses could all benefit by adding a second story to live in. ... and building them side by side. Some few places where they have tried it, set streets up for pedestrians and forbidden motor vehicles during the daylight hours are doing extremely well. A block of stores, a block of parking and kiosks, another block of stores and so on. People are trained to go to school, get a degree (or not) and then go straight to work for SOMEONE ELSE. Our educational system sadly neglects teaching youngsters that there ARE other options - like WORKING FOR YOURSELF - at home. Schools, colleges and universities are in for a huge shock. Fewer and fewer will be traveling that path, getting in debt for useless degrees...
So, you disagree with me on... dentists? In my country, Finland, most towns and municipalities are rather small with a whole lot of nothing in between, so it's not possible for most people to find suitable work in their own community, or enough customers/employees. One of my middle school teachers had to commute over 3 hours every day. Couldn't exactly teach us woodwork at home. I'm not surprised that small private stores are still economically feasible in countries like Mexico, but very few people are employed by such businesses here. You simply can't compete with chain stores in most sectors. Most service providers and retailers operate in business parks or malls, so commuting is the only option for the vast majority of the workforce.
You are very lucky to have had a teacher for woodwork. In California all of that kind of trade or manual teaching has been pretty much abolished. Too practical? In my school days we had wood shop, metal shop, electrical shop, welding and cooking classes. All gone now... pretty sad. Electricians go where they are needed. Cops patrol. And yes, big factories need workers. Most factories in China & India have housing on the grounds or right next to the factory. Granted, it is ugly, cheap housing. ;( Generally, a patient goes to the dentist, the dentist does not come to fix your problem like an electrician might? My dentists in Mexico and in Vietnam live above their treatment rooms... and you can go there in the middle of the night with an emergency. Usually there is a pharmacy nearby for the meds - though most have "samples' that they are given by manufacturers - which they hand you for free :) Wish we had this in the USA... maybe, someday, someone will will see the logic & economic savings in this? Probably not in my lifetime.
Been there, done this! A little over 6 years ago, I quit my job, relocated back near my family, and found a whole new field for myself. While I don't LOVE what I do, and I make less than my old job (75% less when I first started working for this company), I'm much happier. I discovered that money wasn't everything if you're not happy where you are. Good for you for making the leap.
GREAT VIDEO! I really enjoyed it. You provided a lot of eye opening ideas that I haven’t put much thought into. You truly are an inspiration. Keep up the great content!
From what I have seen first hand, too many frontline engineers working for large corporations the majority or all of their careers die within 5 years of retirement. Many of the ones who stay on the job into mid their mid 60's or later are dead within 6-18 months.
I'm also an engineer and I think i should follow your footsteps as well. Are there any tips you would recommend if my engineering day job is my only income? I would like to work as a freelancer, for example.
Start trying to make tiny bits of income outside of your current day job. It will feel like you have two 40 hour a week job when it gets really serious. Rejoice if you can even make $0.10 in one month, and grow that. Soon it will become $10... then $100/month, so on.
You should take the Briggs-Meyer personality type test. I think you are an INFJ (like me.). You will feel so much better about thinking/being “different” from most people because we are only 1-2 percent of the population. (abut we are the best in many ways. 😉)
I'm INTJ. Or INFJ. Or INT/FJ. It was fuzzy on the test. Perhaps it's because I'm an artist and a programmer all in one, so both thinking and feeling is combined.
I have friends that went to school for 8+ years they have jobs making between 80-200k. They work 50-60 hours a week and hate life just trying to climb the ladder. I never finished high school and instead started a marketing agency with some friends today me and my business partner both make a half million per year. And we travel all over the world, currently chilling in Tokyo about to go practice my Japanese on some of these hotties. Why people work normal jobs I have no idea. If they put those same 8 hours into a project of their own I am sure they would make it. Its not really that hard but for some reason people won't work hard unless they have a boss standing over them making sure things get done.
Easy to say as a person that did it. But I do think not everyone is cut out to be so enterprising as you are. You need that drive that not everyone has I think. Those that have it I think maybe never start a traditional job or leave it at some point. Could it be learned? Maybe. Probably?
BeatTheBush I think more people could do it than we know. Think about how hard a waiter works if they put that same energy into projects of their own I’d bet on a high likelihood of success. Not saying everyone should try and start a tech company or anything majorly complicated. I have a friend who has a concrete business he makes 200k+ a year. I really think a major problem people have is they won’t work unless told what to do.
John Lingel Society could not function if everyone didn't "work normal" jobs. The whole live your dream argument to me is invalid. Go to LA or even NY and see how many artists are struggling. Plus, some people need bosses and are not leaders or capable of leading themselves. They just want a check every 2 weeks and weekends off. Plus business is a volatile field. I think most college freshmen go for a degree or major in business, marketing, economics, etc... Also one of the highest fields with grads not being able to find work. Whereas the trades are a different story obviously. However, if there are no installers or technicians in the field then engineers lose their jobs or become installers in the field...
Thanks for posting this. Is good to know I’m not the only one who thinks this way. I just quit my computer engineering job a week ago for pretty much the same reasons (yes, engineers, always trying to maximize efficiency 😉). My other coworkers called me “brave”, since they want to do the same but can’t afford it. So, Congratulations! I hope more people get inspired by your videos!
I can relate to everything you are saying and the feeling of being beholden to 'the man'. Above all the life force you mention. Everyone knows the saying time is money yet so few value their time and don't realize they lose more than they get in the exchange (most of the time). I also naturally have arrived at many of the same financial conclusions you did and really enjoy saving money. I view buying most things as a tax on my freedom. So much of money is wasted on things we think we should buy or do. I too quit my engineering job and am currently living in Thailand. It's not for everyone, but the cost of living is easily 1/6th of the Bay area.
When I worked for the Canadian government somebody created a web version of a policy manual which corrected the many grammatical mistakes. Since the original was approved and the two had to be consistent, they had me personally go through the web version to re-insert the hundreds of grammatical mistakes.
O M G.... what a waste of time!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! I will go in a room and destroy some boxes to vent. Then maybe I"ll come out after exhausting my anger to do this work.
O god the horror
Frank 42 now that has got to be the winner! That has got to be the stupidest thing I ever heard of.
Sounds like the Canadian government.
that's the definition of bureaucracy.
I feel you. I’ve been a software engineer for 10 years now and I love to code but the actual job working for a company has made coding not fun.
Then you have to do that online training for workplace behavior... for the 5th time ... same one. argh.
I discovered what coding was in 2009 in my freshman of engineering school... The school set up made me hate it...and I dif drop out when I researched what engineers really do and how bad shit is... Now I understand how important coding is and I wish I had Learned it on my own but fucking engineering school put me off, it wasn't even useful language like python or Java.. It was some outdated shit not even internet related
That's why I left my coding career after 5 years
There’s an easy solution to this - consulting / freelancing.
"You are converting LIFE FORCE.. for salary". The truth is too real. I have a high skill government job and most of my older colleagues are just husks of what a free and happy human being use to be. It was really motivating seeing that and taking control of my life and avoiding that path. Always inspirational hearing similar stories from others.
"high skill government job" So, you pick your nose, fill out a mountain of paperwork on it, and make $250,000 a year?
When I read high skilled government job, I immediately thought : secret service agent 😂
I'm 6 months into my first job... Already feeling all this lol
Really? It's still the honeymoon phase. Usually it's fun for about 1 year.
lol, i feel for you buddy....you have a long time to go. Hey, just make sure you are the one helping the project manager's set dates for milestones.....it needs to be YOU as the engineer telling the project manager what is feasible date wise and if more work is added, modify the dates and/or request assistance. Cover yourself to be a success on every project. Travel sucks the worst when you're trying to raise a family and be home.
BeatTheBush it's because in just a few months I realized that all this company culture n transparency talk is all HR speak that they fed us and mgmt at my company is all focused on small 1-2 percent improvements so they can pat each other on the backs instead of big picture changes that need to be made that anyone with half a brain can see needs to be made. Might also just be because my company is a big company with like 20k ppl idk how it is in small firm's
Akhil P over 10 years of engineering for me so far. It gets better man. Trust me!
(Not srs...everyday is the worst day of your life. Watch the movie Office Space lol)
+Akhil because you are a millennial. You dont believe in hardwork! Lazy generation.
Engineer: someone who does precision guesswork based on unreliable data provided by those of questionable knowledge. See also: wizard, magician.
Lol... sometimes you are required to use questionable date. Very true.
@@BeatTheBush The difference between an engineer and a technician is the ability to know good data from bad, and allow for it in your design work. It's also engineers who create the stuff to begin with!
Yeah I have this on my coffee mug too
We, the unwilling, having been lead for so long by the unknowing, have been doing so much, for so long, with so little, we're now almost qualified to do almost anything with nothing.
Yeah. Planes fly on that data.
I know what you mean with the bureaucracy... Just yesterday I got reprimanded by my boss for not putting the new cover sheets on my TPS report. And get this, he even asked for me to come into work on Sunday!
Michael Jay - Value Investing That's not bureaucracy. That's scapegoating and worker abuse! Get out ASAP! Change boss with the same company if possible. Quit otherwise. You will only get hurt if you stay!
Michael Jay - Value Investing That's not bureaucracy. That's scapegoating and worker abuse! Get out ASAP! Change boss with the same company if possible. Quit otherwise. You will only get hurt if you stay!
Didn't you get the memo?
You should listen to hardcore gangster rap in the car like I do omw to work. Really helps in traffic.
(Just make sure to turn it down and lock your doors if anyone passes by)
Work on a Sunday? I felt the chills on my back.
I hate work politics myself too......no matter how good the results are they want everthing done their way, even if it gives no results
I am so happy the younger generation is sorta realizing en masse that they DON'T have to follow in our footsteps! I love that creative minds like yours are figuring out ways to contribute to society, make money for themselves, and change the overall culture to be more accepting of a new way of doing things. Staying stagnant is a slow death. Being flexible & willing to change & try new things is how we grow stronger!
CHSwildcats19 I somewhat agree with this perspective. However, there are also many airheads on RUclips who are not improving society and getting paid to promote useless garbage.
Imagine everyone quiting their jobs to pursue these types of careers.... Good luck finding a doctor .
It's a Lot harder to do this when you are married and have 3 kids..
GOOD JOB!!
Yup... harder with higher burn rate.
That’s why you don’t have kids. Look at how few people are having kids now they figured this out.
Taka Masuda but kids are cute
kids lol wife LOL
...and its fun to make kids :D
I am M.S. Engineering, I retired at age 50 because of the same reasons. I thought I would build up a private business, however I am just not power and money hungry to fight the commute to get money-rich , instead running out on the off peak hours to meet with like minded value centered friends... I am thinking many engineers prefer engineering themselves an efficient minimalist safe life and having great educational times. The marketing and business power and money crazed individuals,like,to fantasized about what they would accomplish if they had passed engineering, however most engineers use their degrees to retire early and go fishing!
Nice! Off peak is where its at! I love going around when there is no one on the streets and curse the traffic during those peak hours.
Maintenance Renegade incel they aren’t talking about you or just men.
@Maintenance Renegade didnt expect to see a MGTOW here . ignore it its not worth talking to it.i wish you the best in every thing you do brother :D .btw mgtow is exploding in stem. google "mgtow berckley" we are every where :D
1:00 The Problem, demonstrated
2:05 (1) Bureaucracy (2) Paper Work (3) Commuting (4) Work Social (5) Ideas are not yours (6) No Freedom to work on what you want. (7) Earnings Potential Capped (8) Reached financial security point.
7:55 Not solely relying on RUclips.
8:23 In summation
=D Great! Another table of contents!
I love they way you Illustrated that. I so do understand those moves.
When you work at a large high tech firm, 80% of your effort is spent creating presentations that will be used by your managers to jockey for their own careers at your expense.
Then become one of the managers...
@@summerrr1 It doesnt work that way
For me the last straw was when it was either me or the president's mistress getting laid off. One of us got laid off and one of us got laid.
Huh. Interesting.
Eric Lytle congrats on getting laid
I bet it was the last straw. The difference here is, BTB made the decision himself... whereas someone else made the decision for you.....
In all seriousness if you can make the case that you were the better worker you probably have a good wrongful termination lawsuit case. You should probably talk to a lawyer about it.
John smith you're funny. Are you in the United States? If so, good luck ever proving that if you're ever in Eric's position in real life. It is doubtful the work is quantifiable in that way. The boss can make up some other lie as to why the mistress stayed while you did not and that'll probably be the end of the road. I'm also doing to make the assumption that if you're unemployed, money starts to get tight, so good luck again with paying a lawyer for something that probably wont work out in the end for you. On the other hand, your company has plenty of money to pay for better lawyers that you couldn't afford... so you aint winning this case without serious, hard evidence and proof... which you aren't going to have
I left corporate america BECAUSE NOBODY WANTS TO WORK!!!!! I was surrounded by "smart imbeciles" -- people who had brains but never applied themselves and just counted the hours off. Every. Single. Day. It was infuriating. They would basically try to get away with doing little work, with as little quality as possible -- and bosses don't give two craps and never did anything about it. Most of these people were in their 40s or more -- doing the same thing for way too long -- and were PAID TOO WELL to switch jobs or careers. I was doing the work of 2 or 3 people and eventually burnt out. The problem is a lot of them went into software for the money, and a better life for themselves, but NEVER for the passion. Nearly all were naturalized citizens, originally from 3rd world countries. I understand their motivation and reasoning for going into software -- and I loved them as people. However, I resented them as coworkers. They get a bit older, a bit established, get that nice cushy job, and then their lack of interest and passion manifests as extremely poor work ethic. And I was surrounded by them everywhere I went.
There are a few of those in every company. Those that doesn't do much work or just talks. You get a few who are hard workers and things just work also. So it's a mix.
I am a software engineer worked in corporate america for almost 10 years ditto story bad bosses bureaucracy office politics lazy upper and middle management counting years in their chair to retire like deathbodies
I never worked out how every job ended up with a few people doing everything until i found out about the pareto distribution .
@@royshaft Interesting.
perhaps if they had a more stimulating environment (and didn't have to do all the paperwork and tps reports) their output would be different
More lego animations, I like it!
Thanks! This is some sort of cubicle set though.
sing54321 - I like it, too!
+1 love it, would love to see more
BeatTheBush i only watch the video because of LEGO set.
🌹My son just got his degree from UC Davis. The UC’s definitely grind the factory worker mentality into geniuses. I had to give him YOUR Speech regarding corporate America because TIME is your most valuable asset. Having worked in corporate America myself and loving it at times but realizing all the things you just said, I need him to realize his potential while being young and his creative still exists. #ILoveThisVideo 👍🏼
What can I say, I went through it myself and worked for many years. It does bring in money. So if you bring it in, at least not squander it and get out as soon as you can.
That goes for 99% of the jobs out there unfortunately :( unless you are the CEO of a big company. But then he/she still has to report to somebody ....
Nice to see alumni here haha
That’s the Prussian education system, produce workers that are just smart enough to work all day every day but not smart enough to question “authority”.
perfectscotty I agree. It may have been adequate in the mid-to-late 19th century, but the problem is that we're clinging to it in a world that has changed fundamentally. I truly hope that our civilization doesn't succumb to its own inertia and that one day our grandchildren will be able overcome our self-imposed limitations and look back in horror at the unbelievable amounts of time, energy and potential that we wasted.
I'm interning as a Mech-E at a small company and I thought "I will never work here, they pay much less than other companies for engineering work." But you know why they pay less? Vacation is easy to get and the work environment is incredibly comfortable even for the stressful positions. Plus if you have a good idea the higher ups will at the very least give you a solid listen. That's huge! I will probably work for them if they offer me a job out of college.
Some companies are better at making their employees feel important. Glad you found something that you feel is worth your time. =D
What's the name of the company if you don't mind me asking?
DoubleAIV I'd rather not say. All I'll say is it's a small local company in the Pacific Northwest ;)
And by small I mean like 150 employees, and "engineering" is a room with four guys. Haha
Happy for you.
I'm very familiar with a lot of what you speak of here. In many ways my current job/company are the same. My commute is miserable and I sometimes feel so burned out I need to lay down for a bit after I come home at the end of the day. I'd really like to figure out how to work for myself. I think that will enable me to do other life goals like moving closer to relatives and friends on the other side of the country.
I have to stay in the car for a few minutes before I get out. It takes a lot of concentration to drive in traffic and avoid any potential accidents.
I quit my 40 hour work week job for a 30 hour work week job, it changed my life. Money doesn't make me happy, time/freedom does. Im so much happier now, i finally have energy at the end of the day to DO the things i loved. That extra 10 hours shaved off my work week really does wonders.
I think people do not realize what getting even 25% of your time is worth. How much salary cut you are willing to take to get that 25% of time back is more than you think.
I love how real you are, I hope to meet you one day! I quit a career in HR too to pursue my dreams and I'm so much happier!
It sounds crazy to those who didn't do it yet. It is actually incredibly scary. Like leaping off a tall building. I do have gatherings sometimes in different cities.
pia, just curious what dream did u pursue?!
I had no choice .. fired from my last 3 jobs.
Apple Chai probably something music related
Awesome! I'm in Vancouver, so I'll keep an eye out lol
"i just quit my engineering job" *films himself playing with legos* LOL
Cool right?
Joins oversaturated you tube vlog community.
He is using legos to communicate to people who would not understand his message otherwise (brodening his audience)...like kids, politicians, mangers, directors, etc.....:)...hahahhaha.
Thanks Beat The Bush for this video. I hate the "politics" of being in a job, for example you know that you are the best person to be promoted but it goes to someone who the boss "favours" over because of their personality versus promoting the person who would do the best job.
I'd say shift your thinking about what best is. BEST is combination of skills and soft skills. You want that promotion? Start from the very beginning of when you meet your new boss. Ehh... I would have to say... suck up but do it with good taste and not so obviously.
Not just that, but also as long as the ones who's gotta evaluate your performance and intelligence are average people, you will be unrecognized. So, your qualfications don't matter at all. Also, they will not listen to you when you know what should be done and so on...
I'm even not mentioning the corporate culture. That fake formal environment, and the expectations of you to treat each other offically nice or whatever, as if you care about anyone or even the job itself...
start your own business. good luck.
A second channel for engineering related videos? hmmm
Paul Phillips No this is related to finances more than enguneering. Engineering was more as an example and his reasoning applies to ither jobs.
AJ213 That's why I suggested a 2nd channel for engineering. Thanks @Huynherful didn't realize he already had a second channel for DIY stuff, would be cool to see more engineering related stuff there. With the growing "maker" community, could be popular.
I think this one is appropriate for engineering - to monitor developments in AI and robotics and subsequent impact to job market.
STATE OF AI
Currently AI is way more advanced than people realize. For instance, with written descriptions, AI can generate photo quality images of specific birds and flowers.
And since 2014 it can distinguish similar objects, (such as a dog from a cat, and the left aside of a car from the right side) an advancement not previously possible. This means *lower demand* for talent - and only the best where needed.
It can diagnose illnesses in minutes, rather than in weeks and has a near 100 percent accuracy rate.
Just today I release a DIY clean your radiator video on my second channel. So yeah, all the stuff not related to money will go there. Channel 'BeatTheBush DIY'
Work has good and bad points but doing your own thing is always better. They use you so you might as well use them to get what you want. When I first started working I was building my career and sacrificed my life for the job but eventually I learned they have no loyalty to you, they just take. So eventually I decided to use the job for my own benefit so I would be set up for life when I left. Screw them.
My experience is they always try to give the illusion of security because they have to. Once revenue goes down for one quarter, KKKKKK! you're laid off.
A job is essentially a hedging agreement. You don’t get the full gains from your ideas, but you also don’t get the full loss either. Taken to the extreme, a company could go bankrupt, while you just jump ship onto the next job. The key is to manage the hedge to your personal level of risk/reward.
Hat's off to you. Job satisfaction is important to Millenials. I deeply respect and admire that. Anything you give 1/3 of your life to should enrich you mentally as well as financially. I know some would begrudge you for giving up something so coveted, but that's their problem.
Lol yeah. I sound spoiled for giving up a high paying job and complaining.
BeatTheBush _ No. To me you sound "woke." You're neither the first nor the last to make such a move. In the mid 80s, I read a book called, "Oh Come Ye Back to Ireland." A power couple based in NY making high 6 figures gave up fab jobs to live on inherited rural property in Ireland. They had talked about it for years and finally took the plunge. They didn't regret it.
Interesting video. I think one point you missed or maybe just encapsulated into a couple other points without going into much detail is the fact that a lot of the time, your performance is being evaluated by people who weren't really STEM-smart enough to go into engineering themselves. This could be lumped into the bureaucracy point, but this has been one of my frustrations with the field. There's also the fact that management often operates on a different value system than technical professionals. While someone who has to communicate and work with technical details will necessarily be blunt and descriptive, someone who works in a "customer-facing" role will gravitate toward a different communication style that values positivity and salesmanship over bluntness and rawness. A lot of the time, what would be interpreted positively by technical colleagues would be interpreted negatively by management.
You've reminded me of a good reason to stay as a substitute educator, instead of going for the contracted position. As a sub, I have so much freedom, from how much I work, to what I do on the job, to the people I don't have to answer to. A full-time position at the same place every day would enmesh myself in the school politics and bureaucracy you speak of. Been there, done that already in my life with previous careers.
Yup. Depends on your tolerance to that stuff. It gets old really fast to me.
After working my way through college at a gas station earning minimum wage, commuting to school 40-50mins, I see my engineering job coming up as a huge blessing. I've been humble/poor my whole life so I'm willing to do whatever I can for a better life. Yeah it sucks - the drive, bureaucracy, etc, but life is always about priorities, I'm just tired of being broke. We will always be complaining about something, but remembering your roots makes it easier to live with.
Try living in Canada and commuting during the winter. I wish I commuted in a state like California.
This is commuting in Canada from November until late March/early April.
Step one, wake up an hour earlier.
Step two. Start your car from your house/apartment with starter.
Step 3. Wait for car windshield and windows to defrost.
Step 4. Go out and chip away at the ice and snow that has accumulated the night before during one of the many whiteouts we get while it's -25c. You talk about energy being almost all gone by the time you get to work? Most of mine is gone before I even start the drive.
I get what you are saying tho. Do what makes you happy, period.
I lived in cananda my whole life and its not that bad. I almost never start my car way early. And if you have any issues driving buy a 4x4 truck lol
This is why I respect your channel. Content like this. Teaching people to think out of the box instead of shooting every idea down and being content with the status quo. The reality is the winners in life are usually the ones who solves problems.
Bigger the problem and the better you solve it, the more you are rewarded.
Wise and smart words.
Everything you described is the problem with every job ever.. Lol.
This is what it entails to work for some one else.. You trade time/ideas for a salary and must conform to their standards and expectations. Only way to avoid this is to work for yourself and be your own boss.
If I had a good idea on how to earn a living on my own, then I'd do it.. as of now I have no intentions of selling water bottles on the side of the road however so I'll stick to being a logistics supervisor.. Lol.
I see. Yeah... one should not be selling water bottles... otherwise making less money for the same amount of time.
Reasons 1 through 7 are pretty much reasons why I never really feel like going out and getting a job (and I will add that I relate a bit more to reason 3). Another is that work can get quite boring and drag on for what feels like ages, as I experienced in my two most recent work placements via the education centre in which I studied at the time (and still study, due to my failure in my most recent English exams and my reluctance to claim my place in a college course to which I applied, because of that and a past experience at another college). I try to explain this to my parents whenever I see the opportunity to, but they just won't understand.
My dad is the worst when it comes to this. Because of my persistent lateness to the education centre at which I study, he would sometimes suggest that I get a job if I didn't like going. He would sometimes compare himself, my mum and my sister (we all live in one house at the moment) to me whenever he sees the opportunity. He even did that once when saying grace. (He sometimes mentions unrelated things to the dinner that we're eating when saying longer graces, but this was going too far.)
I was working on a video project (I'm still working on it to this day, partly because there are also a few items that I need for it that I still can't find and I will add that this is one of the projects that I'm counting on to be my ticket out of English) which required pictures from my old laptop which has a broken charging port, I looked for good prices for repair and when I finally found one good, cheap price and texted my dad about it, he flat out refused to take my old laptop to get its charging port fixed and even nagged me once again about getting a job, about which I unsuccessfully argued. (He found me a few one-off weekend jobs, for doing which he mentioned the amounts that I would be paid. I only agreed to do them for the money, but I couldn't get up for either of them. The only way that I was able to muster the money was through bursary at the education centre and even then, I received a suggestion that I buy another 20 volt charger for that laptop, leading me to waste money on one that won't even work with the charging port. (The shopkeeper must've used another type of charger for my laptop when I brought it over, which actually worked.)) Granted, none of my parents are absolute ogres, but I'd rank this up there as one of their worst qualities, especially my dad's. I just hate how inexorable they can be when I explain my reasons why I don't want a job.
One thing that I'll mention in regards to what I've typed above, though, is that I do now kind of hate going to that education centre. I just hate that I still remain after all that I've done and tried to do. I hate that there are staff members there working to get me into a work placement that only somewhat relates to what I want to do, just so I can get experience for that (I want to be a games designer and developer), let alone a fifth in the space of seven years from Year 11 to now. I hate that I now, as of sometime during the autumn term, have to abide by a thirty-minute arrival rule to prepare me for jobs, because of my persistent lateness to a place of education and a work placement, to which I have grown to not care about going anymore. Even before I applied to that college course last year, my goal was to get my work out there, to prove that I can do English. Sometime after I applied and uploaded a compilation project to RUclips to little to no fanfare, I had a plan to prove my worth to any exam board and to remain in education if I succeeded to get through to anyone working for that exam board and drop out if I failed. Failing my Level 2 English exams, I ultimately decided to prove my worth to the exam board with which they were associated. Now that I'm still working on a few projects and in the middle of another academic year, I just want out, no matter what.
(Please forgive my ramblings.)
Sigrafix start dropshipping my guy
Hey I wanna be a dentist how do I ensure I work for myself not otgers
Thanks for the insight!
Makes me appreciate my own job more.
Glad I don't have to work at a corporate setting.
=D If you have one of those golden ones, right on!
BeatTheBush what do you mean by golden one?
greentealatte golden handcuffs. They throw $$$, pension and benefits at you. The job itself is corporate and suck massivr ass but you cant leave because of the handcuffs(I.e $$$)
QUITING YOUR JOB IS A REALLY GOOD AND ONE OF THE WORST IDEAS.
DEPENDS ON REASONS. JUST LIKE QUITING COLLEGE
You are so spot on with your points. It's the same in biopharma. 3rd layoff in 9 years, so now I'm taking time to focus on building my own biz. Never been happier, despite not making much at the moment.
Oh man only in the last year ive been been laid off four times
You’re so right about it being more about the paperwork than the actual engineering work. I waste so much time in prep meetings going over the slides of a presentation where all people do I complain about the formatting. Like “make that arrow a different color” “put a red box around this part” “put a green smile face next to this” etc.. it drives me crazy, but it’s a paycheck
Good for you man
Thanks!
Sales Engineering (Sales Engineer or SE) might be a great place for you. It allows for a lot of freedom and creativity. You're not tethered to a desk or on a boss' leash like so many other technical positions. You have to perform (do well at your job) but as long as the numbers are good (in general) you can do it how you wish. Since it's not a total engineering technical position you can work on things that are unrelated to your company's product and if you are able to show it was done on your time it's your property. There typically is some level of reporting/paperwork but in many cases it's only minutes a week. Earning potential is usually much more than the 100's so there's that. Don't box yourself in - just because your an EE doesn't mean you have to do only EE type work.
Thank you. Finally someone else who isn't trying to climb the corp ladder and is confident about that decision. I never wanted to be a manager or a trainer. I do phones and am super good at it. I give my all to THEIR clients and my creativity, when that should be for me and a speaking career or whatever. Great videos and I appreciate you making them. I'm about to retire super early and your vids really give excellent insight.
The way I think of it is that climbing the corp ladder takes too long and often not really up to your efforts. You can work to your maximum abilities for a decade and not progress at the mercy of your manager. That is not a good deal.
Fantastic account of what it's like to work for a company/someone else. The entire process of working for someone else from commuting to the minutia involved in the job. You hit the nail on the head about it ALL. Great to see a UCLA grad telling the truth of it all! I just found your channel. Looking forward to other topics you get into!
The nice thing about engineering is that it's one of the "big three" professions (along with medicine and law) where you can pay your dues for a little while then start your own firm and make your job to suit you. If you don't like working for The Man, become The Man and work for yourself.
Make sure you have enough credits with Social Security so you are eligible for Medicare when you turn 65. If not, get a PT job so you can earn those credits.
=D Noted! Oh yes, I am well aware of that.
lol social security is a scam.
How do you find this out? How many years do u have to work to get social security?
Anthony Porta social security is dead. Its gonna go bankrupt in 10 years
Josh it won't be bankrupt in 10 years it'll be insolvent in 10 years. either way it's bad news and it's unsustainable
I totally understand the feeling of traveling to work and back home, almost 4 hours every day is just being stuck in traffic
I 100% agree with you about the commuting.
This is wonderful! Regarding using your engineering knowledge, could you please make basic how-to videos on building circuits, simple devices, etc.? I am very interested in learning, but I think that the whole "you can get electrocuted or your house might blow up" idea scares me. I exaggerate, but you get the idea.
VV VB. - No need to wait for BTB. I promise, you can find those on YT already and on low cost how to online tutorials that allow you to work at your own pace. Also online community pages related to computer engineering.
Not knowing how one gets electrocuted makes it dangerous. But if you know how it works, then you can mostly take precautions to avoid it. How to EE? I've been thinking of doing something like that. Will upload on my other channel 'BeatTheBush DIY'.
Praggy Pops Q&A, that's true--I've learned how to do basic car and house maintenance from RUclips. The issue with electric stuff though, it's that I don't know where the advice is coming from. Plus, BTB has a habit of breaking down the information to very basic levels, which is ideal for someone of my level.
Beat the bush can describe for us the THREE elements of any electrical circuit: resistance, capacitance and inductance. It's so easy...hard to believe we spend 4 to 8 years in EE....WHEN THERE'S ONLY THREE ELEMENTS of electricity.
I agree would make very interesting content. Maybe a separate Channel dedicated to just that?
The 60fps looks awesome, and the clarity looks better too!
Thank you!
I love it! Exchange money for life energy :) You are absolutely right. I've also finished Engineering so it's very true what you say. That's why I decided in 2008 to start my own world by setting first business :)
This was a good video. I also have a Bachelors and Masters in Electrical Engineer. I can understand why you made your decision.
Hello, how is your career going so far?
I did 3 years of engineering classes, really didn’t like it, so I’m changing majors to Game Design (which I’m really looking forward too). Engineering is really draining mentally, takes all of your sleep away, and free time as well. And in general it isn’t that fun, not worth the grind for a lifetime unless you are kinda a stick in the mud, no offense to anyone. Follow your dreams everyone.
My employer allows me to work from home 4 days per week. I've been doing this for 20 years. Without that benefit, I would've changed careers.
At work there is an engineer about to retire. I hardly here him talk about work, he does what he does and does it good. But in conversations he talks about trying new things, living in France in 5 years, traveling I see engineering is more of a means to an end/goal than engineering being a goal / life dream itself
Respect to you. It takes guts to walk away from a steady job that pays well.
I waited so long that it took less guts than earlier. Some are surprised I would even switch jobs coming from those who work for a company for 10+ years.
Awesome video - congrats on being able to reduce your burn rate so you can live how you want to live! Yes I definitely agree that bureaucracy sucks but unless you’re the boss, or have a company like the one I work for that actually cares about your opinion, it will be a big reason man people quit their jobs...
PS. How did you come up with your name for the channel?
I think he has explained it in some previous videos. :)
Having a good one is rare. From what I can tell it's about 5% chance? Usually great the first year or so though.
Beat The Bush is short for "Beat Around The Bushes" which means not getting to the point.
Later on, it seemed appropriate to assume getting to the point of not getting to the point and you get Beat The Bush.
am transitioning from a full-time position to a part-time position , this is my last week as a full timer I'm so happy 😁 and can not wait till I receive my part time schedule
Millennial burn rate is 3months then they beg their parents for money so they can continue making YT videos.
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while i agree with what you said about paperwork, i just wanna give a shout-out to everybody else who has to spend time into documentation. as a person who uses open-source software alot, i'm super duper grateful towards documentation cause otherwise, i would have died trying to compile and use those softwares. and i'm also super grateful towards my colleagues who have consistently done a great job at documentation before handing their portion over to me.
so yeah. focus on the reason for documentation. maybe that'll make you feel better about doing it. cause you have to do it anyway.
Documentation is needed and helpful but ones that will never be seen isn't.
I love your spirit and positivity. You focus on what is truly important and cut through the BS. Tremendous work. You are helping people.
=D Thank you!
I don't know about the work but I feel like engineering in school is sucking the life force out of me. I only have 3 semesters left and I'm still making 40's on my exams. If I fail a class again this semester and my graduation is delayed again im legit going to go into a really bad depressed state.
what happened to your electronic intro man!? Other than that thanks for the great content and sharing your perspective. Looking forward to more!
I feel you. It doesn’t matter how much money you make. If your unhappy at a job then it’s time to go 🖕🏽. Better to work for yourself then someone else all day.
This video is one of your best...IMHO.
Dude, I can relate to everything you're saying. I quit my job a year ago and started my own company, it got me asking myself why I worked so long in corporate. I got more done in 3 months than we used to get done in a year at the previous company, because of bureaucracy. I think most corporations are designed to be risk-averse, as a result, they tend to become extremely bureaucratic. I share the same sentiment as you, even though I am based in a completely different part of the world.
You cannot avoid reporting. Your up line needs it to report up, your report also impt for them to understand any problems clearly and get any help/resource u need to close the project. Well you could call it paperwork.... Anyway gd luck doing your own thing dude.
Wow i felt exactly the same way! I have a masters degree in electrical engineering and although i wouldnt say it was a waste of time studying it because i am still interested in engineering but the corporate work lifestyle is not for me. Im sure there are good jobs out there but they are hard to find and get. I had to work with some difficult and boring people and it was draining my life and freedom. The number 1 reason other than that is that the pay in the UK is EVEN WORSE. You will be lucky to see even half of six figures unless you are in a big company with lots of experience and responsibility then you might, just might, see £50k (taxed down to £35k)
Wow... I think it's about supply and demand then. Lots more demand for EEs in the silicon valley.
the situation in Belgium is even worse
Joyce Ma dont get me started about Spain. 2500 euro a month and you should be very happy
@Tender Agression slovakia 1200, and kiss their feet
I enjoy your videos. that says a lot because I am high maintenance. I hate wasting time and the fact that I watch your videos means that your videos are of quality. Thanks for making them.
The peas in the background bring me life. Look how happy they are.
Bro, it's not just engineering, there's bureaucracy and politics in every company and every department/field, plus the commuting =)
Yup. All jobs have this indeed.
And kissing up to the boss. Essential to promotions! =p
I disagree. Precision machining and certain trades don't have much.
Well. The high paying ones. It somehow attracts narcissistic sociopaths.. Its like a game to them
@@G1ennbeckismyher0 they do. Trades have good ole boys club and shop cats. IBEW is an example
Yes those are all good reasons and I could add a lot more. It took me most of my life but I finally got out and started my own business. My number one issue with working for a company is that they refuse to acknowledge any exceptional performance or skills. They can not single you out, they have to treat everyone the same. So while that is good for most people it is not good for those who excel at what they do. After you have given your all they show you your evaluation report and tell you they are not allowed to give anyone a perfect score. This is how they slow salary growth and make sure other employees don't start asking for more to keep up with you. In the end you feel very unappreciated and beaten. Now that I have my own business I don't dread going to work anymore and I can pat myself on my back and give myself a perfect score everyday. It's a good way to live.
Liked you from the first time, probably because it's real without all those WOW! Welcome to my greatest YT Channel. Just made two videos and finding that the best it to BE YOURSELF !!!
I’m a senior in electrical engineering. I’m a “top” student in my graduating class..... yet I feel that I’ve basically learned nothing. I’m not really interested in all of this. I’m just trying to finish and graduate and Pursue Art and Professional Organization....I HAVE AN ENGINEERING JOB. And I feel very blessed for the company I have. My boss is willing to explain things to me and somehow doesn’t make me feel like an idiot despite him seeming like a genius..... I don’t know how I’ll get through this final year but I’m going to try my best. I really appreciate this video. I want to graduate to COMPLETE this part of my life without wondering “what could’ve been” in the future. Thank you!!!!!
Wish I had your brain. And math aptitude.
Thank my high school math teacher. =D
Upper Echelon bro I fucking sucked at Math and felt the same way you did. Then I decided to stop being a bitch and focusing lol that's what I would tell myself and literally my whole perspective changed. I took Calculus 2 and got a 94 I took Calculus 3 and got a 97 and finally took Ordinary Differential Equations and got a 92. Its all about the mentality with which you approach the subject. Granted I was a F and D math student in highschool.
Upper Echelon you can do it
I get C's in general maths classes but my other classes that are similar to mathsI get A's sometimes lol I think I'll stick to teaching myself and working. Peace
@sarah mar read "A mind for numbers" it has so many tips, good luck
Nothing is better than happiness and freedom
From experience, I valued it a little less than I should have.
After decades as an elec engineer ultimately what I found was this. In a typical day actual engineering constitutes maybe 10% of your day once averaged out. The other 90% is filled with managerial, admin, office and client activities.
Your reference to the feeling that your life was getting sucked out of you during your commute was exactly what I experienced when working full time for a healthcare corporation. I detest the corporate mentality, and I tend to get an attitude. I don't socialize too well, and have trouble attending events, groups, etc. for the purpose of satisfying some unspoken expectation simply because I work for the company. So, in my early 50's I decided it was enough, and went part-time. I bought a couple of houses and modified the garage into a "mother in law" but rent it separately. In the years since, I have sold one house, but still have two, plus my own. I am alone, so have to pull my own train. I still work, but part-time, and that suits me very well. Your life is irreplaceable, and any time you are going against who you are and your inner gyroscope, you are off the path. You are living the "self-actualized" life, and one that many would give their teeth to have.
One thing is for sure, I compare the two situations and after quitting is much better. It's hard to quantify as 2x better? 4x? 10x? I seriously couldn't believe I did it at what was an impossible dream.
20 minute commute doesn’t even count...
Now it's zero. LOL. If you're okay with 20, you will have 20.
@ey yo Shit dude, that's insane
i have 1h 10 min.....
It's 3 hours for me
Lithostheory before I quit, my commute was an hour and a half.
I am about to do the same. I had an office space moment. My boss wanted me to process 12 items
I said "ok, 12 items, gotcha."
He interjected "no, that's not what I'm saying. You have the minimum of 12 items."
"So you want more than 12?"
"No, you are not understanding..."
Yes, this was an actual conversation.. In Silicon Valley
Sigh... I hate it.
I've been wrestling literally for YEARS wiether or not to quit going to school for electrical engineering. Halfway through I took a break to join the Air Force and go to work so I could get married and make some money. This video really helps me think. I've wrestled with feelings of...slavery, not having my own life. Sounds like you had similar feelings and ended up quitting! Probably will end up finishing up my enlistment and go work for a drone or UAV company doing avionics, currently working avionics for the F35. thanks for the video.
You hit the nail on the head! These are the exact reasons I started my own company. Your #5 is so true, when I realized it, I was appalled, couldn't wait to get out.
he is just listing problems with corporate careers in general. its not that specific to engineering
Be aware that RUclips careers usually don't last too long. Many just dwindle down after a while because people get tired of it just like people grow tired of tv shows on TV or whatever.
Love the decorations in your house? Your wisdom is always appreciated. Thank you!
I didn't mean the question mark lol idk how that got there
Well said, excellent video.
=D
Money doesnt equal happiness.....its sad some people need more money to make them happy.....I was on the same spot, but I got layed off before I could quit....I'm going to learn trades to have a more easy going life
If you're going to spend most your living hours at it, you better try to make it enjoyable.
Everyone thinks they can make a living off of youtube
Daniel Smith - He's clearly not counting on that solely. He has a nest egg and investments that pay out. I don't think I can.
I can say it sure is a fraction of what I get doing engineering. LOL! I must be crazy! HA!
Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder nobody wanna lift no damn weights !
raman p aint nothing but a peanut 🥜
I followed you because I respect the hustle and I support your come up! Good Luck with everything you are still young! Plenty to look forward to :)
=D I wonder where it will go from here.
I've been an engineer for 7 years and I am hoping to get out. I agree with virtually everything you said here. I thought mechanical engineering was building rockets and making brilliant ideas work. Boy was I wrong.
Lol... so you have 50% paper work too? Lol.
Never commuted in my life... never understood why people don't arrange their lives in such a way as to earn a living without having to do that...
You will NEVER get all those hours back - that doesn't count the stress and exposure to maniac drivers on cellphones.
I think because it's HARD. In a way, I do feel like I wasted a lot of time already. But at least I can say I've been through this corporate stuff to talk about it.
Did you ever consider that _all_ work has to be done by _someone_ and most jobs can only be done away from home? People who commute every day; factory workers, bureaucrats, electricians, cleaners, dentists, garbage collectors, police officers, etc... without these people doing their jobs, nobody else could work at home, because society would not exist.
I mostly disagree - excepting for heavy industry, large construction, public service, government employees and bureaucrats. The latter would do even less work unsupervised than they do now.
I have run 4 different businesses from my home over 40 years. Wholesale & custom metal fabrication - a small "factory" of sorts. A hands on training school for up to 6 students at a time. A machine shop, and welding/repair shop. Very low overhead, no bank loans, no commuting.
Over the years I've employed part time workers and a couple of of full time workers. Two of the employees lived down the street and had to walk a whole half a block. We boarded the other two.
You've not traveled much? Asia? South America? In Mexico, for example - in most of the pueblitos, the owners of the businesses live on the second floor. At street level the doctor has her office and surgery. The doc I used to see was trained at Stanford. You can walk up to the door 24/7, ring the bell - and she will come downstairs, let you in and treat you. She sewed up the sole of my foot after I stepped on some glass barefoot.
Next door is the Farmacia which is owned by another family and they will get you your prescriptions 24/7 as well.
Ground floor businesses are very secure, with roll down steel doors for night hours and glass fronts during the day. 24 hour security is provided by the family living upstairs... along with a dog or two as an alarm system.
The same is done with restaurants, small corner groceries, car mechanics, dentists, furniture stores, appliance stores and repairs of all kinds.
Why this is not a "customary" lifestyle in the USA I do not know?
We do have a lot of pretty silly zoning and construction ordinances in the USA... Cities and towns are not planned or laid out in this way - because those very planners were never taught that rows of businesses with private residences upstairs were an excellent way to use space and utilities. Nor are the architects of all those single story, stand alone businesses.
Restaurants, franchises, repair shops, apparel and shoe stores, coffee shops, and other businesses could all benefit by adding a second story to live in. ... and building them side by side. Some few places where they have tried it, set streets up for pedestrians and forbidden motor vehicles during the daylight hours are doing extremely well. A block of stores, a block of parking and kiosks, another block of stores and so on.
People are trained to go to school, get a degree (or not) and then go straight to work for SOMEONE ELSE.
Our educational system sadly neglects teaching youngsters that there ARE other options - like WORKING FOR YOURSELF - at home.
Schools, colleges and universities are in for a huge shock. Fewer and fewer will be traveling that path, getting in debt for useless degrees...
So, you disagree with me on... dentists? In my country, Finland, most towns and municipalities are rather small with a whole lot of nothing in between, so it's not possible for most people to find suitable work in their own community, or enough customers/employees. One of my middle school teachers had to commute over 3 hours every day. Couldn't exactly teach us woodwork at home.
I'm not surprised that small private stores are still economically feasible in countries like Mexico, but very few people are employed by such businesses here. You simply can't compete with chain stores in most sectors. Most service providers and retailers operate in business parks or malls, so commuting is the only option for the vast majority of the workforce.
You are very lucky to have had a teacher for woodwork. In California all of that kind of trade or manual teaching has been pretty much abolished. Too practical?
In my school days we had wood shop, metal shop, electrical shop, welding and cooking classes. All gone now... pretty sad.
Electricians go where they are needed. Cops patrol. And yes, big factories need workers.
Most factories in China & India have housing on the grounds or right next to the factory. Granted, it is ugly, cheap housing. ;(
Generally, a patient goes to the dentist, the dentist does not come to fix your problem like an electrician might?
My dentists in Mexico and in Vietnam live above their treatment rooms... and you can go there in the middle of the night with an emergency. Usually there is a pharmacy nearby for the meds - though most have "samples' that they are given by manufacturers - which they hand you for free :)
Wish we had this in the USA... maybe, someday, someone will will see the logic & economic savings in this? Probably not in my lifetime.
"The essence of your brain" indeed.
A lot of essence is on RUclips now. =D
Fantastic points!
Been there, done this! A little over 6 years ago, I quit my job, relocated back near my family, and found a whole new field for myself. While I don't LOVE what I do, and I make less than my old job (75% less when I first started working for this company), I'm much happier. I discovered that money wasn't everything if you're not happy where you are. Good for you for making the leap.
You should serve food for a couple years and stand for 10 hours straight and walk 16 miles a day.
I hear nothing but whining here.
GREAT VIDEO! I really enjoyed it. You provided a lot of eye opening ideas that I haven’t put much thought into. You truly are an inspiration. Keep up the great content!
Thank you! =D Will do!
From what I have seen first hand, too many frontline engineers working for large corporations the majority or all of their careers die within 5 years of retirement. Many of the ones who stay on the job into mid their mid 60's or later are dead within 6-18 months.
I'm also an engineer and I think i should follow your footsteps as well. Are there any tips you would recommend if my engineering day job is my only income?
I would like to work as a freelancer, for example.
Start trying to make tiny bits of income outside of your current day job. It will feel like you have two 40 hour a week job when it gets really serious. Rejoice if you can even make $0.10 in one month, and grow that. Soon it will become $10... then $100/month, so on.
Should I try a RUclips channel as well?
first you want to get a couple of rental properties then start a business and make a goal to make 10k a month then continue to get more properties.
You should take the Briggs-Meyer personality type test. I think you are an INFJ (like me.). You will feel so much better about thinking/being “different” from most people because we are only 1-2 percent of the population. (abut we are the best in many ways. 😉)
LMAO
Homebody Heaven Its suppose to be rare but I feel like the entire 2% of INFJs are on RUclips 😂
It's a horoscope level pseudoscience, whatcha talking about...
I'm INTJ. Or INFJ. Or INT/FJ. It was fuzzy on the test. Perhaps it's because I'm an artist and a programmer all in one, so both thinking and feeling is combined.
simpletongeek Those are INFJ traits. Equally using both sides of the brain. Watch some utube videos about INFJ traits.
*I don't know when he was an engineer but six figures in LA is a lot different than six figures in Houston or even Denver.*
Love this! Keep up the great work, Francis. Thanks for all you do!
Will do!
I have friends that went to school for 8+ years they have jobs making between 80-200k. They work 50-60 hours a week and hate life just trying to climb the ladder. I never finished high school and instead started a marketing agency with some friends today me and my business partner both make a half million per year. And we travel all over the world, currently chilling in Tokyo about to go practice my Japanese on some of these hotties. Why people work normal jobs I have no idea. If they put those same 8 hours into a project of their own I am sure they would make it. Its not really that hard but for some reason people won't work hard unless they have a boss standing over them making sure things get done.
Easy to say as a person that did it. But I do think not everyone is cut out to be so enterprising as you are. You need that drive that not everyone has I think.
Those that have it I think maybe never start a traditional job or leave it at some point. Could it be learned? Maybe. Probably?
BeatTheBush I think more people could do it than we know. Think about how hard a waiter works if they put that same energy into projects of their own I’d bet on a high likelihood of success. Not saying everyone should try and start a tech company or anything majorly complicated. I have a friend who has a concrete business he makes 200k+ a year. I really think a major problem people have is they won’t work unless told what to do.
what does your marketing agency do? it sounds very vague
John Lingel Society could not function if everyone didn't "work normal" jobs. The whole live your dream argument to me is invalid. Go to LA or even NY and see how many artists are struggling.
Plus, some people need bosses and are not leaders or capable of leading themselves. They just want a check every 2 weeks and weekends off.
Plus business is a volatile field. I think most college freshmen go for a degree or major in business, marketing, economics, etc... Also one of the highest fields with grads not being able to find work. Whereas the trades are a different story obviously. However, if there are no installers or technicians in the field then engineers lose their jobs or become installers in the field...
John Lingel I'm actually also starting a social media marketing agency. I would love to connect!
If this is an example of the next generation's attitude to work, humanity is screwed.
I work very hard outside of a typical job. =D
humanity > the system
Thanks for posting this. Is good to know I’m not the only one who thinks this way. I just quit my computer engineering job a week ago for pretty much the same reasons (yes, engineers, always trying to maximize efficiency 😉). My other coworkers called me “brave”, since they want to do the same but can’t afford it.
So, Congratulations! I hope more people get inspired by your videos!
I can relate to everything you are saying and the feeling of being beholden to 'the man'. Above all the life force you mention. Everyone knows the saying time is money yet so few value their time and don't realize they lose more than they get in the exchange (most of the time). I also naturally have arrived at many of the same financial conclusions you did and really enjoy saving money. I view buying most things as a tax on my freedom. So much of money is wasted on things we think we should buy or do. I too quit my engineering job and am currently living in Thailand. It's not for everyone, but the cost of living is easily 1/6th of the Bay area.