The Future of Dragon Ball Super
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- Опубликовано: 8 янв 2025
- What are the stories left for Dragon Ball Super to tell?
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As we wait for a new Dragon Ball anime and while the Dragon Ball Super manga is recapping the events of Dragon Ball Super Superhero, a lot of people are wondering what the future for the series will be? Well some future arcs have already been hinted at.
The most obvious one is a Black Frieza arc. This could have True Ultra Instinct Goku, Ultra Ego Vegeta, Super Saiyan Full Power Broly, Orange Piccolo, Beast Gohan and Beerus vs Black Frieza. That's not all the future holds!
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What do YOU want to see in a future Dragon Ball Super arc?
Beerus vs Black Frieza
i really want to see uub more in super, he has a lot of potential
I just wanna see vegeta get a w
Black Frieza Vs. Vegeta. Possibly a new form for him.
Cooler
This is probably the only window for them to introduce Cooler into Canon and they better not miss
I want frieza’s son Kuriza from the budokai games to be canon 😊
@@jmantime I’ve got an idea, how about….BOTH 🤯
@@imjustdaclankacooler vs Frieza, who's the better dad for kuriza?
I want them to introduce Janemba as the evil of the series the one who manipulates people to do bad things like lucifer
A good way to do canon Cooler would be making him weaker than Frieza, but way smarter and more calculated.
I genuinely think Vegeta getting the W could be fitting in the narrative. At this point, Vegeta’s motivations have gone far past revenge, and him deciding to eliminate Freeza not out of petty pride, but purely because of the threat Freeza poses to his loved ones would be a perfect end to his arc. Unfortunately, Vegeta will never get the W so long as Toriyama has anything to say about it
We can only hope Toriyama allows Vegeta to finally give Frieza’s final end.
Toriyama reading this :
This is so... so ... so beautiful *sheds tear* I can even see it...
*Proceeds to draw Vegeta with his thumb pointing to himself one more time*
You people forget that the manga and show isn’t produced just for fun. It’s produced to make money, and Goku is where the money is.
@@dickbicycle9304 Nope. The movies and arcs that feature Goku the least tend to be the most profitable
@@Lynchy626 Lmao Super Hero literally did awful in the box office compared to the other movies. I have statistics to back up what I’m saying. You’re literally talking out of your ass.
I think that black Frieza is so strong that we need to wait a few arcs for him to show just how strong he really is.
And then frieza be like "this isn't even my final form" transform into diamond or platinum form
@@kaizablue0412holy shit that would be insane. I wouldn’t be surprised. There’s no way he trained for 10 years only to get one new form. He trained to the point of potentially beating Gogeta.
@@gammafrost Yeah Frieza should get 10 more forms, and each new form makes him slightly smaller so by the end he's the size of Chiaotzu. That would be SO COOL
Dragon ball daima
@@dylanking1335toriyama's like writing arcs between the arcs...lol idk why he ruining his own franchise by creating daima and this super hero shit
I personally think they should bring more of the non-canon characters like Cooler, Android 13, Baby and Janemba into the canon universe just like what they did with Broly
All of these ideas are just too obselete by this point lol, if they had been introduced earlier in Super it would make more sense. Broly only got a shoutout because he was EXTREMELY popular, despite the idea of Janemba and Baby being very cool in concept they just don't fit in what DB has become lol.
I just want to see the Granola and Morro Arcs being adapted 😭😭😭. Black Frieza will likely be the focus with Broly being the one built up after Goku and Vegeta were One Shotted, ultimately he'll loose pushing the fight in Gohan or Beerus direction.
A 2nd TOP with the universe's with the higher mortal levels and A God's verse mortals tournament would be insane!!!
God's vs mortals sounds sickkkk
hate to say, depending on how long daima is, we may not be getting a sequel to super until like 2026+
Yeah granola Moro black Freiza & Top2 could be epic.
It should be illegal to miss this man’s videos.
If that were true, I’d be a terrorist. Because I never check my notifications 😭😭
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my internet was out so i missed this video's notification
So true
Probably
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Being honest I want to see arc where frezia is gone for good
agree
Maybe Frieza fights Beerus or Whis, then has his soul destroyed when he loses so he can never be revived.
@@robertnelson9599I feel like it would be boring though. It would be much more satisfying to see someone like Gohan or Vegeta to finally defeat them in the end.
@@lil_brook97 sorry but Vegeta fumbled in ROF and at this point I don't even want him to beat Frieza anymore, I rather Vegeta beat Beerus instead since HE was the true cause of Planet Vegeta's destruction
@@tajalbright1147 I get that. But I truly want Vegeta to win against Frieza. Goku beat him, Trunks beat him, Broly beat him, but not Vegeta? Especially since they have the most history together. Although I am interested in Vegeta beating Beerus. But I think if that’s the case, I think Goku and Vegeta should jump Berry’s using Mui and Ue. I feel like that would be much cooler
I think it would be hilarious if Black Freiza won the 2nd Tournament of Power & made a wish to combine all the Universes (including newly revived ones) into one so that way he can rule it all, this adds and opens up the world for Goku to have even more opponents and rivals
I believe the kids would say “let him cook”
This sounds like a great idea
Crisis in Infinite Earths moment, that amazing!
Problem- there is twin universes.
There would be 2 earths
2 nameks
2 yardrats
And more duplicate planets. Maybe instead of combing just make 2 big universes which doesn’t combine twin universes so no loopholes happen
Secret Wars situation (i love it)
@@Aznbr0 that would be even cooler
Freezer beats goku and vegeta, kills beerus or the supreme Kai to become the ruler of the universe, goes to earth to get revenge and gets beaten to a bloody pulp by gohan. Goku and vegeta take over the roles of Kai and god of destruction and gohan becomes the new protector of earth. goku comes down to see ubb fight in the torment and decides to train him
I know it won't happen, but I'd love to see the earthlings get powerups similar to Gohan and Piccolo in Super Hero. Remember that Tien, Yamcha, and Chiaotzu never got their potential unlocked by Super Kami Guru so it would be cool if they made a wish to Shenron similar to how Piccolo did in the movie. They could do a mini-arc where Goku, Vegeta, Piccolo, and Gohan are away from Earth and Earth gets attacked so Krillin, 18, Tien, Yamcha, Chiaotzu, and maybe Roshi have to team up to defend it. Maybe Yajirobe, Chi Chi, Videl, and even Mr. Satan could help out in some way.
Though knowing the DBS writers, they'd probably just have someone like Pan handle everything lol.
Super kami guru approves
chi chi doing something again is a based idea
that would be a cool idea, giving the Earthlings power-ups and having them defend Earth while Goku, Vegeta, Piccolo, and Gohan are away. It would be great to see characters like Krillin, 18, Tien, Yamcha, Chiaotzu, Roshi, Yajirobe, Chi Chi, Videl, and Mr. Satan stepping up to protect their home. And hey, Pan could definitely join in on the action too.
Those power ups are undeserved asspulls
They are becoming kids now, so huge power up
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I’m not sure I like any of these ideas to be honest. I think to go forward, they need to look back. I would rather go back to Master Roshi and Mr PoPo and have them reveal they’ve known ultra instinct this whole time as it’s been alluded to in the manga. I want Goku to master it. I want to see Krillian learn it. I want the squad to be brought back into the fray.
RIP Toriyama-san
I really hope DBS keeps up the fact that it is branching out to include other characters more in the main narrative. DBS has been the Goku and Vegeta do everything show for too damn long, hopefully they show more love to the Earthlings while keeping other important characters like Uub, Granolah, and Broly important as well. It would be amazing to see all of them pull through to stop the threat of Black Frieza.
I guess so , but at this point it's too late to make the humans useful . It's been so long since we've seen any of them be useful
@@GOOFYAHH597 It's never too late.
@@YTHomer it's too late my dude even giving a buff for the humans to be at base goku's lvl would be so illogical cause that would mean that they can destroy the whole dbz with a ki blast
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I personally don't wouldn't enjoy an arc given to other characters like the goten and trunks thing
A chapter or two won't harm but making goku and vegeta go to the sidelines for an entire arc is not good in my opinion
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Isn't it already enough it's been more than a year since the goku vegeta show ended
Tbf to Super that was an issue in Z and GT as well, even og DB had Goku saving the day for most of its arcs
@@aetherialbeing4223 not really, in z he was either dead, having a heart attack or just simply unavailable. In z we had more screentime with characters like Gohan and Vegeta than we did with Goku.
Speaking of future trunks, I don’t think I’m alone when I say a spin off focusing around trunks in a new timeline would be very interesting. Heck you could even change the ending in super to where he goes to a different timeline to save that version of the future Z fighters from the androids.
time patrol trunks series 😭
Speaking of spinoffs, I've got two other ideas:
1. A Ginyu Force spinoff: this, I feel, would be hella fun to watch; have it be the Ginyus being Ginyus, conquering planets and engaging in shenanigans. Maybe it could even explore their origins and Guldo's beef with Vegeta?
2. An Origins of the Turtle School series: Have it include a young Master Roshi training with Master Mutaito. It could include characters like Ox King, Grandpa Gohan, Master Shen, etc. Maybe even Young Kami and King Piccolo?
Or just fuse the double of Trunks and Mai and if not that then Trunks & Mai find it hard to live with 2 versions of themselves and actually permanently stay in the present
Red Ribbon Army vs The Tuffles or Ginyu Force.
Baby, Janemba, Towa, Mira, Turles, Fu and Bojack return.
A good way to end Frieza for good, would be for Gohan and Vegeta to be the last men standing against him, doing some kind of team up combo move to finish off Frieza, it pays off BOTH of their characters, would be a cheeky cell saga reference that toei seems to love so much and would be good character development for Vegeta to let go of his personal revenge and team up with someone to two v one an opponent who's a threat and forgo any personal satisfaction he might gain from a 1v1 W.
hell yeah
beast gohan doesnt need to team up with vegeta
that would be a cool way to end Frieza's story, Gohan and Vegeta teaming up for a combo move would showcase their growth and provide a satisfying conclusion. Plus, it would be a nod to the Cell Saga and show Vegeta's character development.
It doesn’t involve Goku so it’s not happening. The idea is to make money.
BEAST GOHAN VS BLACK FRIEZA
THIS SHOWDOWN I AM WAITING
PERSONAL RIVALS SINCE NAMAK SAGA
FACE TO FACE
GOHANS TOURNAMENT OF POWER THREAT
FRIEZA WANTS TO BECOME NO DOUBTABLE STRONGEST MORTAL IN MULTIVERSE
ENDING MUST BE VEGETE ERASE HIM FOREVER
Brody wouldn't lose if he goes into rage mode because of his multiversal power going into the fight. It took a fusion to stun him outside of times space. And as stated brolys form doesn't render his speed or power. He get stronger the speed power accuracy doesn't waver.
5:15 OOO YAH!!! Goku will definitely be caught up with "other activities" with those 2 😈🤣
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I wouldn't mind a canon version of Cooler, and would be fine with whatever they chose to do with his character, provided it was well-executed. Having said that, a good way to subvert expectations and capitalize on a missed opportunity from the Tournament of Destroyers would be to make him a decent member of Frieza's race, unlike Frost, who was just putting on an act, only to end up being similar to Frieza in the end. Frieza and his family have been depicted as some of the worst tyrants in the history of Universe 7, so having Cooler sort of be the black sheep of the family could make for a pretty cool dynamic... or at least I think so anyway. Cooler could possibly still be an intergalactic leader of some sort, but maybe he acquired his political power through more benevolent and democratic means, and it could be explained that Cooler just wanted to keep to himself and stay out of the affairs of the larger universe, opting instead to just maintain his corner of it, but kept tabs on his brother's growing power and empire, and once they began to look like a serious threat to all he'd built up, he could provide assistance to those whom he knew had been a thorn in Frieza's side in the past. It could give us a chance to learn some history and backstory for their race in general and their family specifically, and considering the bad blood that would exist between the brothers if one was good and the other was evil, a showdown between them where they duke it out with all their might could be fun, especially if Cooler also has potential just like his more malevolent sibling. That's my take anyway... I'm sure others have their own spin on how they'd like to see Cooler's character used. Like I said, I'd be fine with whatever happened, provided it was done well.
Random question, does Piccolo's orange form also multiply his grilling abilities?
Of course. Never interrupt the grill master (thanks for the super thanks 🙏🏻)
@CarthusDojo by this logic goku also becomes a better driver when using super saiyan
The thing that makes Frieza dangerous, it's not only his power but his cunning
"They" will be Beerus' greatest rivals, eh?
whispers "fusion" on the wind....
If there is a black freiza arc i hope we get to see cooler
Yes, super cooler!! NOT golden cooler!!
@@analyticalhabitrails9857 I am the legendary Frost demon cooler
@robertothesupermutant830 Well we don't Fucking know it so what.?
Same bro that shit would hit
So it would be freiza vs gohan and vegeta and cooler vs goke and broly
My guess this Black Frieza Arc will be saved for as a final arc before End of Z comes into play. Goku & Vegeta visiting the U6 Saiyans as the next arc would make sense, maybe the reason why they are visiting is to find out why they are so much stronger than U7 Sayians and maybe that information can help improve themselves against Black Frieza. 🤔 One thing I like to see is Piccolo & Gohan going on a training arc to learn more about the Orange & Beast Forms, maybe from the Supreme Kais. 🤔
I wish the anime gets a GT ending. Telling them that Goku's time is over and they have to rely at their strength to survive. But of course, Black Star Dragon Ball needs to be included as the final saga. This saga will tell us overusing dragon balls to make things easier is abuse.
i think the end of z will come first, and then dbs will continue beyond that. black frieza arc will take place after the end of z for sure
If piccolo and gohan continue their training, I hope they do develop god ki because black Frieza is a far greater threat now.
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We need a menace... Like kid buu blowing up the planet without saying a word kind of menace.
I think it's definitely a possibility that by the time we get to it, Beerus will be killed by Frieza, rounding out Vegeta's development throughout Super by making him the de facto God of Destruction and setting up him destroying Frieza for good
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I kinda wanna see Vegeta beat Frieza, but either doesn’t relish the killing because that’s not what it’s about anymore, or doesn’t even kill him after beating him and maybe hands him off to Beerus or something and refrains from getting his revenge to show that he only desired to win/stop Frieza and it’s no longer about revenge because he’s grown beyond that.
Beerus vs frieza feels most likely given their history. He wants to showcase his new power and is sick of being pushed around by Beerus he challenges him to a fight to assert his authority with his new power
Been waiting for some videos like this, it's definitely time to start speculating what the future for the franchise is.
There's a plot hole when it comes to Beerus and Whis when searching for the Super Saiyan God. Whis searches for Saiyans in the universe and actually calls out all of them, including the half Saiyans. But he makes no mention of Broly and his father as well as Vegeta's brother Tarble.
It's like the last 10 years of content has made a big mess they can't clean up. Who knew?
Bandai, hire this man
All I wanna see if ssj4 become cannon
What I want to see the most is an arc revolving around the true origin of the Namekians.
This could be another Piccolo-centric adventure that could potentially crate a connection between him and the Dragon God Zalama.
With the Granolah arc revealing that U7 and U6 are from an entirely different realm, and with DBS continuing to hammer down the point that many wishes are being made at once, it seems like the story is leading to either an arc where the original namekians make their return, or an arc where the dragon balls get corrupted/Zalama comes back to take them away from every planet.
i want that tool.... i also want to know why namekians knew about super saiyan god.. cause it sounds like saiyans and namekians have some kind of connection in the past
@@JoshuaTerence38Super creating the "Namekian book of legends" that mentions both Super Saiyan and Super Saiyan God was just lazy writing
that would be an awesome arc, exploring the true origin of the Namekians and their connection to the Dragon God Zalama. A Piccolo-centric adventure delving into their history would be really intriguing.
Universes 13-18(this could be really interesting meeting the new gods and new threats along with it possibly), Dragon Balls/Namekians(A modern reference to maybe Demon King piccolo with a evil Namekian maybe and the show is called dragon ball after all, it would be fitting to help it end.), and Black Frieza(The original Final Boss of dragon ball could help a lot to end the series, and he isn’t gonna get another form, there’s a hint from the colors of his forms, White, to Gold, to Black. I’ll let you figure it out yourself)
Man, they’ve kept us waiting for 5 years. Yes, we got DBS: Broly and Super Hero and both were great films, but no anime and a big manga drought. The future I’m looking forward to and I hope it lives up to expectations.
3:04 "based on combat skill alone" wouldn't that simply mean Jiren is a better fighter?
With Goku and Vegeta reaching a sort of "end' to their character arcs in the Granolah saga I hope this means the show will be focusing on Gohan, Goten, Trunks, and the other guys more.
You clearly haven't read the Manga whis said to Goku that your end goal is not the ability to wield ultra instinct he said that's only the start (which indicates Goku is yet to grasp ultra instinct) and Vegeta only tapped into ultra ego in the end of granola arc and we have yet to dive deep also the beast form and orange piccolo I don't think they actually reached their pinnacle yet it's just about to get better.
All of their forms are so powerful and yet the main villain appears to be far stronger than them (black Frieza).
As the other guy who responded said, bruh a mastered ultra ego vegeta is a game changer, goku and vegeta are still and will be the main characters of dragon ball in the future.
@@ZACKARDO idk why these guys are obsessed with other characters getting the spotlight i mean i love gohan as well but without goku the series doesn't work
Maybe Garlic Jr can come back with insane power and fight the other Z fighters. That would be interesting
@@geokashi357I think it should be obvious: so we can have more diversity. Why not?
Three words...... dragon ball kakumei
Beast VS Frieza would go hard. Gohan would get revenge for Piccolo, RoF, and everything else.
BEAST GOHAN VS BLACK FRIEZA
THIS SHOWDOWN I AM WAITING
PERSONAL RIVALS SINCE NAMAK SAGA
FACE TO FACE
GOHANS TOURNAMENT OF POWER THREAT
FRIEZA WANTS TO BECOME NO DOUBTABLE STRONGEST MORTAL IN MULTIVERSE
ENDING MUST BE VEGETE ERASE HIM FOREVER
BEAST GOHAN VS BLACK FRIEZA
THIS SHOWDOWN I AM WAITING
PERSONAL RIVALS SINCE NAMAK SAGA
FACE TO FACE
GOHANS TOURNAMENT OF POWER THREAT
FRIEZA WANTS TO BECOME NO DOUBTABLE STRONGEST MORTAL IN MULTIVERSE
ENDING MUST BE VEGETE ERASE HIM FOREVER
Okay maybe that, OR Tori forgets he ever wrote any of that and goes on a spiraling tangent instead.
It'll be the perfect time to make Cooler canon to the story, would love to see how he could compliment and contrast with Frieza. Would love to see the human fighters and trunks and goten shine as well.
Also another curve ball suggestion I might add bringing back wasted character that had potential like King Cold or Raditz, maybe for King Cold he could be revived by Frieza or Cooler or even someone else, same goes with Raditz.
IMO I really would love if they take some concepts from Kakumei, like - previously mentioned in the video - vegeta and the others visiting Universe 6 Sadala and such, into canon. Would be great to see some of these moments in the manga.
even a fight between cooler and frieza
I could see Cooler having the brains and charisma to counter Frieza's brawn and brutality. Like, say he decides to revive Cold and turn him against Frieza (which shouldn't be very hard after Frieza neglected to revive him). He lands on Namek, and instead of starting to kill or enslave the Namekians he just goes up to Mori and says "Look, we both know your planet has been attacked twice for the Dragon Balls, and both times it ended very badly for you. So how about you just let me have my wishes, and then me and my men will leave you and the planet unharmed. Deal?" And Mori just can't argue with that.
@robertothesupermutant830yes, he looks cool and is goku's brother, that's all you need, of all "villains to heroes" we get in db, he'd make a ton of sense
cool ideas, Cooler being introduced to the story and exploring his dynamic with Frieza would be interesting. Bringing back characters like King Cold or Raditz could add some unexpected twists to the plot. And incorporating concepts from Kakumei, like the visit to Universe 6 Sadala, would definitely be exciting to see in the manga.
I just want Vegeta to get his moment to shine.
He already has against Toppo.
@@Wamrage76 ... please
@@adasga How about against Cell second form?
@@Wamrage76buddy he got clamped in that same fight by his perfect form literally wdym
Problem is vegeta cost his win by his own hands whenever he has a power to beat main villain he just want villain to gain a power and take L in his collection
I would love to see Broly get the spotlight! He is just so dang cool
I’d love a take 2 of Broly just absolutely beating the crap out of frieza again
Goku can't fuse with hit because they aren't the same species. It is mentioned that you can only fuse with someone of your own species
I really hope we aren't having frieza as a villain for the 3rd or 4th time.
I think it could be cool if Frieza finds some way to travel across the multiverse and ends up finding the 6 revived universes and unites/conquers them and uses them for a universal war.
That would be a great way to bring Cooler and co into the cannon
For anyone who knows about dragonball kakumei it could have a similar approach for frieza to take a spot as a destroyer or vegeta visiting planet sadala I think a way to get beerus serious against frieza is for frieza to kill champa and take his spot, idk though
Man the possiblities you just threw about the upcoming DBS 2 storyline seems a lot more rich and enjoyable to see than dbs, I hope at least one of them come true
You don’t know how much story potential db has now that there are other universes
4:05 this is a honestly good idea! Your videos are amazing.
Hope the Dragonball Super anime returns very soon. I don't care if the Galactic Patrol Prison & Granolah saga won't get adapted at this point.
Toei are very gei so it will probably take a long time or maybe never especially with their focus on one piss
So you want the show to come back with zero direction, or content to adapt because you just miss the show that much?
@@richborn6700 No? It's because the iconic voice actors aren't going to be around forever unfortunately. Hopefully they record many of their voices like Adam West apparently.
@@richborn6700i hope dragon ball super is shut down forever and the dragon ball franchise is gone. It is an evil show that promotes drugs, adultery, and violence.
Thanks for covering this, as the question has been in my mind lately, when is DBS Season 2 or the next phase come along❓
Honestly, 2024 being the Year of the 🐉 (according to Chinese Astrology) would be more appropriate 👍
With beast Gohan, Ultra Ego Vegeta, Orange Piccolo and Broly it'd make more sense for Goku to want to train Uub then it did at the end of Z. Everyone of his other rivals have caught up to him in power and down need his as much to train as Uub would to control his Majin/God powers
Let’s have the final battle end with Beast Gohan fusing with Broly to give us Brohan
If toriyama didn't die the black frieza arc would have been here early if there's no hiatus
What I'd really like to see also is Goku possibly exploring some of those universes which were exempt from the tournament, namely 1,5,8 and 12. I'd love to see what those universes are all about at some point.
It should be a riot if Vegeta don’t get the W against Frieza. So over the way they be playin Vegeta. The Prince of all Saiyans deserves much better
0:14 cmon. Its current year. Its Frieza of Color, or Frigga to other members of his race.
Frigga 💀
@@souptikchakraborty2004 its weird how 0.0000000013 percent of the population commits 50 percent of all war crimes in universe 7.
@@deadturret4049 🤣🤣🤣🙏🏻
Frigga’s call him the parfait (because he’s sweet in the cut).
Frigger
I am legitimetly hyped for this new era of DB. All of the unique forms and where the narative seems to be leading has me on the edge of my seat.
My biggest hope for the series moving forward is a resurgence in the Human characters. I’d love to see Krillin and the others stand toe to toe with Goku and the others.
I mean, Krillin is the only ine left from the Namek Squad to need a power up. (He was teased to help take down Freeza after the T.O.P.)
(To see Krillin and Goku fight side by side, shoulder to shoulder against a big bad, similar to Goku and Freeza vs Jiren, is my biggest dream as a Dragon Ball Fan.)
But having Krillin/Tien/Yamcha lower down keeps things in perspective: normal humans have limits. It makes it clear how strong the other guys are
Yes and No... See, to me, when I see Super, anyone who isn’t Goku or Vegeta (and later Freeza, and 17) it feels like they’re just paper trying to fight fire.
Or rather, every warrior who isn’t Goku/Vegeta feels as strong as a normal non-ki using Earthling. (Even Piccolo and Gohan)
Now, I see the cast and the shine that Piccolo,Gohan, Pan, heck even Goten and Trunks, and they don’t feel like their meaningless.
I want that for the Humans. They’ve been overlooked for years. The Krillin mini arc and his subsequent recruitment (and beating of Gohan and nearly Goku) was AMAZING and I feel like they can and should do more.
@@onecoolboy98 Krillin being a cop could easily be used to create a mini arc for him... in fact, Jaco could recroute the likes of Tien, yamcha and Krillin for mini arcs... possibilities are endless due to DBS willingness to make mini arcs in between larger arcs. I rewatched dragon ball kai last year and it felt so nice seeing everyone playing a part in an arc.
@@calebgunner That would be cool, however, I'm pretty sure the mini arcs were never cannon. (Even the God Teir Krillin arc).
@@onecoolboy98 You're right... The mini arcs in the anime aren't cannon... I was just refering to the mini arc that we've just had with Trunks and Gotenks.... I feel like that arc was hindered by the fact that it's a prelude to the super hero arc....
And when I mentioned how everyone played a part, I was refering to the Saiyan, namek and buu arc....
Broly: “What’s your power level?”
Uub: “I dunno, pretty big though”
Broly: “Mine too”
Uub: “Cool” :D
I don't mean to sound negative, cause I genuinely love dragon ball and it'll always be special to me since childhood, but love how this man actually has hope for good writing. Things like "I doubt Goku will kill frieza" are continuity like "would revenge be the next direction for vegeta after whats stated in the granolah arc" are just hopeful optimism that unfortunately has left me disappointed time and time again. Its honestly really tough for me to expect such cool ideas/consist writing.
Dragonball super is anything but consistent, they took the idea of "discovery writing" that toriyama used to do to a whole new level and they have meetings after every arc to discuss ideas for the next one. We always "reset" to point 0 after the arc with little to no consequences or continuity between them like there was in Z. Even the shallow attempt between Moro/Granolah ended up leading to nothing beyond introducing Granolah and the heeters. This is proof that long run, super unfortunately is pretty directionless.
Some proof? Look at the way UI has been written. Mans has mastered UI like 50 times in a matter of one arc with 50 different explanations for each, beyond the retconning/nerfs it has received because they wrote themselves into a corner. This is not new, and vegeta going back to revenge for the black frieza arc is very probable. He uses it as a basis for his reason behind training in the broly movie, hard to believe he's forgotten that already.
I really love when people like Carthu discuss this stuff cause its awesome and i love the content and ideas. But I've been conditioned to expect very little, as the corporate nature of Super, being a great financial success in spite of crap writing/inconsistencies (Not all the time), seems fundamentally contradictory with the idea that we will get a good written story that is as wonderful as we hope to be.
Sorry for the long read, if anyone's gotten this far, I'm passionate about dragon ball but i'm disheartened of how its been recently, especially this massive break + recap after the granolah arc. Black frieza got me hyped again and they didnt capitalize on it for over a year now, plus the lack of any announcements have made me step back from the franchise, which is sad because I love it very much.
Anyone wanna leave their thoughts, we can have a nice friendly discussion. These were just my thoughts, not trying to offend anyone.
Let Vegeta defeat freeza this time c'mon
He got cooked in the granolah arc by black frieza
Plot twist, yamcha stops Frieza with ultimate wolf fang fist 👊
I thought 2 ideas could be interesting for something like this. Perhaps we could see a randomised team version of the T.O.P, like 1 member from each universe being placed into a team and having to learn how to fight together without really knowing each others capabilities. It could be fun and might allow for some rematches/matches like Goku vs Vegeta or Goku vs Gohan or Vegeta vs Toppo or even have team ups like Goku, Hit, Jiren vs others. The other one could be they skip end of Z and make a new GT, maybe having some GT villains reintroduced and having people like Frieza be used in new arcs
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I still think the Shadow Dragons should be the final arc mostly cuz I think its poetic to have the final bosses of the Dragon Ball franchise to be the Dragon Balls themselves. It would also have the most tension since if someone dies then they can't be bought back until all the Shadow Dragons are defeated
The issue is the shadow dragons make the entire series brick. If using the dragonballs is so bad why would they EVER let them be used trivially? The fact nobody questions bulma deaging herself by 5 years, Or having them as a fun prize suggests they wisely didn’t include them.
@Skullhawk13 maybe they just didn't know that Shadow Dragons were ever a possibility. I mean if there were was a wish dragon that you can summon pretty easily (since they have a dragon radar) and there's seemingly no downside, of course they would abuse them
@@adhamwashere5320 there’s no way that the angels wouldn’t know and Weis or w/e is bros with them
Maybe it could just involve a corruption of them in some way. Doesn't necessarily have to follow GT's reasoning. I like this idea but i feel like this should occur after they are finished with the Gods.
The idea of the shadow dragons is good, as long as they dont end up like how they did in GT. In GT the shadow dragons were boring antagonists and their movesets and fighting styles were generic. Instead of shadow dragons, a better idea that is more original is due to people using the dragon balls for evil and selfish desires, Zalama comes back to Universe 7 and tries to kill all namekians to ensure that no new dragon balls across the universe are ever created or used. The arc could start with Zalama killing Dende, and this would give goku and the others a good motive to actually want to fight him. This is a lot better than a shadow dragon arc, and it would also increase the lore surrounding zalama and the creation of the dragon balls.
I like to think that beerus and champa have a sister that's a G.O.D. in a universe that was erased(whatever universe that was connected to 7 and 6) its an interesting concept that I feel like would work really well considering the universes were at one point pair's of 3
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The Future of Dragon Ball Super
The Future of Dragon Ball Super
@@hidd3n-4liThe Future of Dragon Ball Super
KALE AND CAULIFLA LEARNING FUSION DANCE WOULD BE A GREAT IDEA
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What if frieza and cooler fuse
Over powered stuff
Freeza as a villain is SO old news.... I wish they got more creative than to recycle him over and over again, it lost its fun LOOOONG ago
Universe 13 to 18 rebelling looks interesting. We could get a villain who's at the same level as the Grand Priest. Or perhaps a villain that even Zeno would struggle as seen in Anime War. I know this is unlikely to happen but what if Xicor is one of those villains? Anyone miss the Dragon Ball AF days?
The god above gods struggling? Naw, that's when you get into really dumb stuff that seems like it's thrown together like the anime war.
@@skullkid9830exactly lol
Beast Gohan , MUI Goku , Orange Piccolo , Ego Vegeta..
Black Frieza will have his hands full..
I’m waiting for the frieza face turn, where he finally joins the Z fighters
Honestly I'm tired of Freeza. It's only because they can't come up with a new cool nemesis.
I am 50/50 with you. Like, yeah... A new nemesis would be cool. But, having an actual villain and actual opposing ideology to Goku, that can survive Goku, would be (and is) interesting.
I do think we can say they are over using Frieza. I think they should chill on him. But, as the video said; we're getting real close to the end of the DBZ and they need to come to a conclusion with him, maybe.
Unless they continue past the ending ...
No
Just putting this out there.
People made fun of me in school because I watched dragonball Z.
I'm in my 30's now, and nothing has changed I am still a huge fan.
That is just how good dragonball is, so good I didn't care what others think and continued to watch and enjoy. And still a fan now even as an adult.
Whatever the future of dragonball super is, I am sure it will be great.
Honestly, I want to see some kind of Shadow Dragon arc, where overuse of the dragonballs and maybe the super dragon balls too, because that was the best idea GT had, and to see it redone in Super woukd be awesome.
@robertothesupermutant830 That's kind of a baller move, to be honest. Really asserts her dominance over the divine creature.
I feel like instead of recycling some common types of villains like Frieza and Androids I think it would be better for the series to come up with new types of villains to diversify the villains and characters in the Dragon Ball Super series. Like we have seen Frieza already in ressurection of F and we already had a movie focusing on Gohan and Piccolo with villains who are from red ribbon army or are basically androids but we need new types of villains
I’m beyond stoked to see all this happen.
I hope Cooler comes back in the next arc with black freeza
Sorry now that Diamma is out
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@@Snapdax18 he means because people thought it was coming around this time but daima coming out and because of it probably means we gotta wait 2-3 years for it to be animated
It's my honest opinion that Frieza should have stayed fucking dead. Getting kinda bored of Toyotaro reusing him as a villain all the time.
Well, Dragon Ball was supposed to end after the Namek Saga, and Toriyama stated that Frieze was supposed to represent everything he considered evil.
Nah, it'd be one thing if he stayed the same but he's grown and changed as a character. He affects the story in a way that makes things lots more interesting and is unironically the best part of the dbs anime(besides UI)
7:36 does that statement apply to Frieza
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Mostly it's gonna be a new evil cerealian that might be related to granolah.He came to earth to find granolah (who might have comeback for 24 hours to earth).Fights start as he knows now that granolah allied himself with the saiyans that were the one who killed his people.(I work with Toyotaro,this is still a concept,just told this to you,please keep it a secret) toyotaro is discussing this concept with Toriyama but it's still a non-certified to happen concept.
Ok bud
"please keep it a secret" he says on an youtube comment section
Or...hear me out...we can all turn them into babies!
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this aged like spoiled milk
Why what happened???
@@niceandflyy toriyima passed away so ofc it's not continuing
@@PC_Nooby oh I see but don’t authors have like plans of like future stories way ahead of time
@@niceandflyy yeah but we dont know if toriyama for exp gave it to his editor or some other writer or something so they can finish it but we really dont know much
@@PC_Noobythat's misinformation toyotaro was the lead writer way before toriyama died, at this point toriyama was only there to do minor corrections to the plot but Toyotaro was the one writing it, this pause on the manga is necessary for Toyotaro to clear his mind since he has a lot of weight on his shoulders now and it's all by himself, the manga will come back once he makes up his mind again
If anyone deserves to kill Frieza. It's Vegeta. You know I'm right
I loved how Black Freeza showed up out of nowhere and was like "I'm black bitches'. Truly a revolutionary moment
6:59 literally a spot the odd one out image lmao
lol
I kinda like the idea of Zeno erasing Trunks' timeline to have massive effects on the rest of the universes in that timeline- effects that bleed into our timeline. I don't necessarily wanna see Future Trunks again, but I would definitely like a better ending to his story.
Personally, I think it's a mistake to keep bringing back Frieza. His whole thing has been done before, and it's kinda boring to see him lazily brought back. They need to do something new and fresh. Black Frieza = boring. Ive seen it before.
I don’t care as long as gt is never canon
Great vid. I think the timeline issue can be amended fairly smoothly. Bulma exaggerates, and they could have Vegeta with inner monologue stating its only been 2yrs.
I would like to see Vegeta visit sixth Universe and meet Saiyans.
I’m sorry I don’t like gohan 😅😂