I Watched DBS: Superhero in 0.16x Speed. Here's What I Found!

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  • I spent 9 hours watching Dragon Ball Super: Superhero to find every hidden detail and easter egg in the movie. Here's what I found!
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    I spent 9 hours watching Dragon Ball Super: Superhero to find every hidden detail. Yes that means I watched it at .16x speed not .25x. So trust me when I say, these hidden details get crazy! The movie starts with a flashback sequence animated in 2D. This has plenty of Manga Panel recreations - so here’s just a few of my favorites!
    During this flashback sequence we see Dr. Gero’s original lab being destroyed during Goku’s attack on the Red Ribbon Army Base and what is possibly Gero’s first Supercomputer - similar to the one that made Cell. Notably, Gero already looks extremely old, I wonder how old he actually is. We then see Magenta standing on a box possibly showing a similar insecurity regarding his height like his father - Commander Red had. After that we see an android hand forming in a recreation of Dragon Ball Z’s OP during the Cell Saga which seamlessly transitions into a recreation of the chapter cover Dragon Ball 339 or Dragon Ball Z 145 in the Viz release. In the flashback of Cell we see he has his Super Saiyan style aura from the anime - which is more evidence for the people that think Cell is a Super Saiyan. Watch the video for more!
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  • @CarthusDojo
    @CarthusDojo  Год назад +1282

    alternate title: Obsessive Weeb wastes 9 Hours Looking at Anime Backgrounds
    *CORECTION: Skip to **21:21** to skip DBS Manga stuff*
    *shoutout to Canadian Lad for the title inspiritation! (Technincally I watched the movie at .16x speed so it was even SLOWER lol)*

    • @Tankana_Tsumado
      @Tankana_Tsumado Год назад +46

      I always watch Canadian Lad's video

    • @FafooYt
      @FafooYt Год назад +8

      Everyone in this chat is an Anime Weeb
      And I love it

    • @pulsestar1053
      @pulsestar1053 Год назад +5

      Haha its nice seeing you taking ideas from another great youtuber

    • @cheeseracs4477
      @cheeseracs4477 Год назад +5

      Nah those 9 hours weren't wasted now you can get an extra 100 buck or two from this lmao.

    • @robertpalomera6409
      @robertpalomera6409 Год назад +4

      Hmm

  • @someBODY1s2ldMe
    @someBODY1s2ldMe Год назад +453

    6:14 The way the Trunks vs Frieza fight happens in just a matter of seconds is probably the most accurate and the most amazing scene I've ever seen considering it's from a human perspective.

    • @InueShizaki
      @InueShizaki Год назад +20

      You can feel the speed of how he slashes Frieza and blows him up, that's a really nice detail

    • @MagicCardboardBox
      @MagicCardboardBox 11 месяцев назад +14

      Was gonna comment the same thing, the scene in the anime takes minutes, here, seconds. It's great

    • @TheRealMagicMan
      @TheRealMagicMan 10 месяцев назад +2

      looks sick

    • @ruks-yl4ut
      @ruks-yl4ut 9 месяцев назад +6

      have you seen goku VS freezer but its actually 5 mins? thats pretty good

    • @detectiveplays
      @detectiveplays 2 месяца назад +1

      Honestly shouldve been faster but it had to be slowed down so.we could see it

  • @israelwoodard770
    @israelwoodard770 Год назад +927

    I like to think Goku smiled at the end because he was proud of how strong his friend got

    • @CornBreadtm1
      @CornBreadtm1 Год назад +98

      Goku just wants a good fight.

    • @robbiemedica2652
      @robbiemedica2652 Год назад +18

      Was going to say exactly this.

    • @imsusanov2287
      @imsusanov2287 Год назад +81

      Goku smiles even when he gets destroyed, He smiled against frieza on namek when he was in base, He smiled against beerus, He smiled against cell

    • @briansanders5742
      @briansanders5742 Год назад +11

      I think maybe he was kinda of holding back now as I finished this video run through

    • @nickybutton100
      @nickybutton100 Год назад +32

      @@briansanders5742 It isn't very like Goku to lose just to boost someones ego. Sure he holds back to do that, but he doesn't usually take an L

  • @infinitesheldon5710
    @infinitesheldon5710 Год назад +179

    I love that Gohan can't catch small stuff being thrown at him, since he's not wearing his glasses for those moments.

    • @Kai_zen
      @Kai_zen Год назад +40

      Also a hint to that when Piccolo mentions that when they goes Super saiyan their eyesight is restored, on top of other little improvements?

    • @sweetieswifey627
      @sweetieswifey627 Год назад +2

      @@Kai_zen yep

  • @aligamer5947
    @aligamer5947 Год назад +97

    14:18
    the animator knew what they were doing💀

  • @priestesslucy3299
    @priestesslucy3299 Год назад +600

    23:00
    I just saw that smile as Goku having had fun with the fight and glad to see Vegeta growing into an even better rival to keep pushing him forward.

    • @CarthusDojo
      @CarthusDojo  Год назад +95

      You can take it whatever way you want!

    • @ImTheMan0fSteel
      @ImTheMan0fSteel Год назад +49

      ​​​@@CarthusDojo dude, it is not remotely in character for goku to let vegeta win in this context. He was enjoying himself, he was having fun, they both were. Why would he let vegeta win when its been made clear hes whooped vegetas ass numerous times in training?
      You make a lot of insane assumptions based on nothing. "its not sure why the needed the gammas". Dude, we watched the same fight. Peope would have died without their intervention. did you miss gamma sacrificing himself?
      Sure, gohan may have went beast regardless, buuuut people would probs be dead. Like its just basic "thanks for the help guys, that was tough" diolague. Doesnt imply some sort of power scale or something. Neither does his comment about goku and vegeta. All that says is, gohan beast is stronger than goku and Vegeta, nothing else to gleem from it one way or the other.
      You think about this stuff 10x more than anyone on the writing staff lol. This is dragon ball, not breaking bad.

    • @Domi984
      @Domi984 Год назад +26

      ​@@ImTheMan0fSteel if u don't agree with his opinions then just don't watch them then😐

    • @EliasCoptere
      @EliasCoptere Год назад +49

      @@ImTheMan0fSteel Dragon Ball "fan" getting mad at someone for interpreting something

    • @sazerae
      @sazerae Год назад +32

      @@ImTheMan0fSteel average dbs fan

  • @SunDragon243
    @SunDragon243 Год назад +3129

    The unspoken rizz of krillin is unmatched

    • @supersonic2175
      @supersonic2175 Год назад +258

      Krizzlin

    • @Trap5656
      @Trap5656 Год назад +44

      And by two people as well. 🤔

    • @orbboom6119
      @orbboom6119 Год назад +177

      Shorties like Krillin and General Red pulling the baddest bitches somehow🤣

    • @thefireman5968
      @thefireman5968 Год назад +85

      Bro is definitely at least 9 inches

    • @mylessmith9758
      @mylessmith9758 Год назад

      He really got the baddest mtf just by existing.

  • @quinton1630
    @quinton1630 Год назад +31

    16:07 I laughed so hard when they showed Frieza just casually spinning in a circle in the movie. “Is he always up there, just spinning around?”

    • @TyshaggyGaming
      @TyshaggyGaming Год назад +1

      He needs SOME way to "Stir" th thoughts =)

    • @darkwolf8915
      @darkwolf8915 Год назад

      I bet some one is going to play the human song or something over this

    • @mikeexits
      @mikeexits 23 дня назад

      ​Doot doot doot.
      Doot doot doot.
      "Human music. I like it!"

  • @AkaObbies
    @AkaObbies 10 месяцев назад +27

    The manga has actually fixed Goku outright saying meditation isn't training at all. He instead questions why Vegeta is meditating out of all people and Vegeta says meditation is the key to conserving energy and their physical ability has peaked.
    It is still odd that he explains it does this by relaxing before attacks, as if Goku wouldn't learn this from before.

  • @Goatcha_M
    @Goatcha_M Год назад +2051

    The meditation thing is definitely the biggest fail in the movie, they completely swapped Goku and Vegeta's personalities for that. Goku is as you say, the one who understands the value of Meditation, honing the mind in addition to the body. Vegeta is the impatient one who thinks you can only get stronger by battle and stress.

    • @josuke5966
      @josuke5966 Год назад +161

      Completely, it makes me so mad.

    • @zawardoll
      @zawardoll Год назад +89

      I think Goku just meditates as a form of clearing his mind, not necessarily training. He uses it to center himself, but for Vegeta to call it training is where Goku has issues, and we see at the beginning of Super he does image training while moving.

    • @Goatcha_M
      @Goatcha_M Год назад +193

      @@zawardoll King Kai specifically says in the Buu ark that Goku finished his physical training a week ago and now is honing his mind with intense meditation.
      Roshi tried to teach Goku and Krillin about it, he emphasised a balance of training and rest as optimum and that stuck but it was Popo who actually drilled meditation into him successfully.

    • @guywithnohouse.6808
      @guywithnohouse.6808 Год назад +19

      @@Goatcha_M Meditating is not training, it's a way to be mindful and contemplate and assimilate and disperse stuff in your mind, even in real life people consider it a way to calm one's self and not to train, and aside from that, literally it makes more sense that vegeta thinks it's training because this vegeta is literally taken right after the granola arc, meaning that for one, he obviously did spirit control training and there was a lot of ki control with your eyes closed, so that means that for him he might just be focusing on controlling ki and goku doesn't get that, or for seconds he thinks it's training because that's what he's been put through then and doesn't think of meditating as to clear one's mind.
      So no, king kai never specifically says that he's training by meditating, training and honing are two different things after all, honing works closer to sharper as a synonim and training works closer to repeated movements as synonim, so careful with the english in that case.

    • @guywithnohouse.6808
      @guywithnohouse.6808 Год назад +22

      @@josuke5966 I will fight anyone in the comments that says this one thing one more time, it makes so much sense if you think about it in an open minded way and have actually meditated for once in your life time, dragon ball is still at base, an anime about martial arts, martial artists don't use meditating as a way to intensely focus the mind, but instead get the mind loose and clearing all the unnecesarry thoughts, so failure, or not being good enough, or needing to be better, it's basically decompressing the mind and body by staying extremely still and letting all of those worries, all of the progress, be assimilated in a way in which you won't have to think twice about remembering it, it's a journey with yourself, in the way that meditating isn't done because it's training, but instead, it's done because you want to do it, it's nice to do it, it shouldn't be a bother to do it, you're getting into it not because you need to do it constantly, but because by doing it when your mind is plagued with thoughts, you can order yourself, it's not a way of training, it's a literal way of calming down, if calming down is training, then I swear to god I have been doing maths for nothing, I have been improving at games for nothing, I have been trying to adapt philosophical ideals and turning them into wisdom for nothing, instead of calling it like that, because the only reffrence to meditating that you have is unironically dragon ball, maybe try to actually figure out what the source material is actually taking from, because all that goku does? all that vegeta does? all that training on kami's lookout in db? that's all taken basically taken from the fact that bruce lee exists, and many other chinese traditions and karateka philosophies have been adopted into the db world, ultra instinct is literally called "flow state" in our world, in which you basically don't have to actively word out a thing in your mind that your body wants to do, so it's like doing a kick by just sorta feeling like doing a kick, or doing a punch because you sorta feel like it, literally that is it, it's not actually a "dodge" automatically button or hit without thinking button, it's doing everything that you learned, and here comes the quote "man is a thinking reed" and turning it into pure intuitiveness, so not having to think about doing combos, not having to think twice about what dodging is, not needing to think that you're not gonna be able to dodge because that's the only thing you're focused about, so this is where I end this off, good luck in your research

  • @doctornoahphd1288
    @doctornoahphd1288 Год назад +72

    14:29 “Bulma is throwing a lot of things around”
    You’re telling me 💀

  • @demi-femme4821
    @demi-femme4821 Год назад +19

    I like the implication that Piccolo throws off his weighted clothes just to be dramatic.

  • @Raddflyer
    @Raddflyer Год назад +25

    Little disappointed you mentioned Gohan dropping the sensu (like the potara earing) .... However didn't connect it to. -Gohan doesn't need his glasses when he goes SSJ, he takes them off before he transforms. Given, each time he misses catching objects, he's in his base form.

  • @smeltstarverse7306
    @smeltstarverse7306 Год назад +358

    19:49
    Cell Max isn't only a reference to past Dragon Ball material! The earlier shot of his tail thrashing around in the water is a reference to Shin Godzilla's first form, which is only ever seen as a tail thrashing around out of the water, and the shot where he launches all the purple lasers from his back is reminiscent of a climactic action setpiece from that movie where the titular kaiju wipes out a fleet of bomber planes in a similar manner, down to what I believe to be the same exact laser firing sound effects first used for Destoroyah's micro-oxygen beams in Godzilla vs Destoroyah. In fact, Cell Max's tail being an asymmetrical mass of laser-firing orifices could also be a Shin Godzilla reference, although since it's not a literal secondary/spare head on the end of his tail I personally have less faith in this one.

    • @arandomstarter119
      @arandomstarter119 Год назад +14

      Finally someone else saw it

    • @TRussell148
      @TRussell148 Год назад +8

      Finally someone else mentioned it! I noticed the reference immediately but I haven't seen anyone else talking about it and was going to make the comment you made here.

    • @GodzillaEnjoyer
      @GodzillaEnjoyer Год назад +6

      Ayeeee we got a Godzilla fan here

    • @ONoah244
      @ONoah244 Год назад +3

      @@GodzillaEnjoyer yeaahhhh

    • @patrickbasedman8532
      @patrickbasedman8532 Год назад +1

      yeah i noticed it too!

  • @Sword_Man_YT
    @Sword_Man_YT Год назад +954

    The MCU has The Canadian Lad… Dragon Ball has Carthu’s Dojo!

  • @Our_Remedy
    @Our_Remedy Год назад +9

    I honestly love how Piccolo is portrayed as a weirdo in how he uses the phone or scratches the window to get Gohand attention.

  • @_WiZ420
    @_WiZ420 Год назад +33

    The height thing is something I will finally choose to defend. It's true that Goku, Gohan, and Trunks all grew slowly, but let's not forget some key details. Gohan was still short in the Cell saga, then the time skip had him grow much taller. Goku also had a similar instance in the 3 year time skip before fighting our current Piccolo. Trunks is a bit more difficult in terms of explanation, but remember, he is the son of Vegeta and Bulma: neither of them are that tall to begin with. However, it should be noted that Vegeta was only ever seen as a kid's height, and then we later see his adult form at max height.
    I believe that Trunks' growth being different to present Trunks is largely due to the way he had to live his life in the future, similar to how Future Gohan is more buff than our own. The appearance itself signifies a great stress that they went through as opposed to the power they are gaining. Proof of this would be how Gohan vs Kibito would still be much stronger than future Gohan despite being out of practice. This can also explain the buff aspects of the main 4 Saiyans in the Cell saga, seeing as the Room of Spirit and Time was regarded as a really strenous and dangerous training method.

  • @priestesslucy3299
    @priestesslucy3299 Год назад +59

    17:08 I mean... If someone kidnapped your daughter would you give a damn if they died?
    Gohan's not going out of his way to kill them, but yeah, he has no fucks to give at this point

    • @CarthusDojo
      @CarthusDojo  Год назад +23

      Didn't say I blamed him LOL just interesting to note that's how angry he is.

  • @babyjae7316
    @babyjae7316 Год назад +52

    carthu thought he was slick saying bulma was throwing a lot around😂

    • @diebyty878
      @diebyty878 Год назад +4

      so glad i wasnt the only one who caught that

    • @mikeexits
      @mikeexits 23 дня назад

      I must've missed one of the objects she threw because I don't get it. If it's supposed to be a slick way to refer to the butt shot, I still don't get it.

  • @nicholaskling2425
    @nicholaskling2425 Год назад +24

    I think Goku’s smile at the end is just a reference to Goku always enjoying fighting/meeting stronger people. So Vegeta beating him here is just giving him more motivation to get stronger

  • @JesterDragon8743
    @JesterDragon8743 Год назад +17

    22:14, I'm a bit late to this, but it reminded me more of the kick Gohan did against Cell that ultimately led to him losing Android 18. In that scene, Cell gets frustrated and grows larger simply to increase his power

  • @mugihat4220
    @mugihat4220 Год назад +109

    "Unspoken rizz of Dr Gero is unmatched " brilliant line😂

  • @zawardoll
    @zawardoll Год назад +258

    A few things, the Roshi students who learned Ki blasts before Flight were trained by someone who specifically chooses not to fly. While it makes sense that there was a different drone for Cell, I also believe if the drone leaves when the fighting ends, which explains why they have Vegeta in his Baman shirt, with Goku in a Gi instead of the Yardrat clothes and Gero has not yet seen Trunks here, it's possible that Gero doesn't know Super Saiyan is what it is and by the time he can put it all together it's too late.

    • @priestesslucy3299
      @priestesslucy3299 Год назад +44

      Another point worth noting: Dende already knew how to fly but is never implied to have learned how to shoot ki blasts.
      Flight First might just be the Namekian Way
      For all we know Piccolo might have taught Gohan flight first too.

    • @pedrodiaz2855
      @pedrodiaz2855 Год назад +4

      I thought pans short just said goth lol. But this makes more sense as I also didn’t don’t bout videls name

    • @reptilian_geneticist
      @reptilian_geneticist Год назад +17

      The real answer here is that in the beginning of Dragonball Toriyama did not intend on having people fly... that's why Goku gets the flying nimbus which only the pure of heart can ride and why Mercenary Tao throws a tree and jumps on it to get around... the whole point was to limit people from flying because it takes away from the story telling and makes the world a smaller place... even after Goku reveals that he can fly in the 23rd tournament he barely ever uses the ability again until he's on his way to fight Vegeta and Nappa...

    • @priestesslucy3299
      @priestesslucy3299 Год назад +11

      @@reptilian_geneticist in part because he's not very good at flight at that point. Prior to his death, Goku's personal flight is slower than the Nimbus.
      It makes sense, when has he ever really needed flight?

    • @reptilian_geneticist
      @reptilian_geneticist Год назад +8

      @@priestesslucy3299 again, the REAL reason is that flying makes everything too easy and simple and shrinks the world and halters story telling... Just like Instant transmission (that's why everyone doesn't have it) or think about cell phones in modern movies, they completely ruin story telling...

  • @youtubefire_5263
    @youtubefire_5263 Год назад +14

    "The unspoken rizz of Doctor Gero is clearly unmatched" is by far the best line I've ever heard from this channel🤣 3:18

  • @CyberBuster93
    @CyberBuster93 Год назад +12

    14:28
    "Inside the building, Bulma is throwing a lot of things around."
    She sure is, Carthu. She sure is. xD

    • @gameruchiha6319
      @gameruchiha6319 Год назад +7

      Bro watched it almost 10x slower too lol 😆

    • @Aaronx720
      @Aaronx720 7 месяцев назад +1

      Broly smash

  • @AtenSol12
    @AtenSol12 Год назад +138

    id think that with so much experience piccolo probably sees flight as a more useful base skill than ki blasts. as a situation where pan can otherwise fly away even a short distance might keep her safer than her attempting to fight.

    • @Jerry11201
      @Jerry11201 Год назад +17

      the first thing videl was obsessed with was flying. that's how her parent's relationship began to blossom.

    • @peterperez2511
      @peterperez2511 Год назад +13

      Maybe it's because namekians were taught flight before ki blasts (like dende)

    • @nivnavion
      @nivnavion Год назад +7

      @@Jerry11201 That's actually a really cool detail I didn't notice. Like mother like daughter, I suppose.

    • @mikeexits
      @mikeexits 23 дня назад

      ​@@Jerry11201The 2nd half of your comment confuses me. Was Videl's mother ever shown or mentioned? How did flying deepen her relationship with her parents?

    • @commandercommando5527
      @commandercommando5527 19 дней назад

      Something interesting about this is that we seen before goku use ki to project himself instead of flying like the feet kamehame as a known example another example is goku kamehameha against demon king piccolo so i guess piccolo statement is sort of weird

  • @registered_idiot
    @registered_idiot Год назад +83

    “Bulma is throwing a lot of things around.”
    Indeed she is.

  • @matthewanthonisen819
    @matthewanthonisen819 Год назад +8

    Also in the English dub during Gohan’s transformation into beast they overlap his scream with Teen Gohan’s scream when he transforms into SSJ2. Super cool detail

  • @SkittlesTheAnimator
    @SkittlesTheAnimator 3 месяца назад +3

    The dedication to look for these references is very awesome it was nice seeing some of these in the theaters when spotted especially during Gohan vs Cell max when he did that uppercut

  • @SteamMau5
    @SteamMau5 Год назад +69

    The text that "Hero" is written in (5:22) along with the text that "Villain" is written in (not shown) also references the original Dragon Ball anime opening logo!

  • @UnwantedGhost1
    @UnwantedGhost1 Год назад +75

    *"The unspoken riz of Gero is clearly unmatched."*
    - Carthu's Dojo

  • @ytwhattup6128
    @ytwhattup6128 Год назад +14

    22:44 they didn't know about Cell's weakness without the heads-up from the gammas
    also gamma 2 probably heavily weakened cell with his sacrafice

    • @artizzy2k2k
      @artizzy2k2k Год назад +4

      Cell Max literally lost a hand I guarantee if it didn't get blown off the fight would've went much different

  • @graysonholbrook3025
    @graysonholbrook3025 Год назад +12

    The movie actually does explain the line with Piccolo claiming they never could have won without the Gammas' help. About a minute after Piccolo says that line, he approaches Gamma 1 and Dr. Hedo, who are mourning the loss of Gamma 2. In an attempt to console the pair Piccolo then says "Thanks to him, Cell's attack power dropped". This is in reference to Gamma 2's sacrificial charge that ripped off Cell Max's arm. Granted this is in the Sub version of the movie rather than the english dub so I'm not sure if there are differences.

    • @artizzy2k2k
      @artizzy2k2k Год назад +5

      It's in the English dub Carthu clearly didn't watch everything slowed down because how the heck did he miss a PIVOTAL MOMENT

    • @tacomeat5689
      @tacomeat5689 Год назад +7

      Yeah, everyone acts like Gohan soloed when literally everyone attacked and weakened Cell. The Gotenks Volleyball cracked his skull, Gamma 1 obliterated his arm, Piccolo beat the crap out of him, and Gohan finished the job.

    • @artizzy2k2k
      @artizzy2k2k Год назад +3

      @@tacomeat5689 Gamma 2 obliterated his arm actually

    • @tacomeat5689
      @tacomeat5689 Год назад +3

      @@artizzy2k2k lmao yeah my bad, same diff. Also, Gohan had a senzu, while Piccolo and the Gammas were worn out

    • @3am_-
      @3am_- Год назад +2

      ​@@tacomeat5689 and Cell Max was drained of his energy from beating the shit outta Piccolo. If piccolo had kept the senzu bean he would've killed Cell Max by himself. And Gohan had time to charge up his power

  • @DokkanAssets
    @DokkanAssets Год назад +97

    You've opened my eyes Carthu. I've always want to figure out how to absorb MORE Super Hero content. Just make the movie longer! Genius! Thank you.

    • @CarthusDojo
      @CarthusDojo  Год назад +30

      If I make the movie longer I have more movie to cover. It's simple

    • @M4nUThr0n
      @M4nUThr0n Год назад +3

      The chad is here🥶

    • @DokkanAssets
      @DokkanAssets Год назад +2

      ​@@CarthusDojo Big brain. 😤

    • @GuccixThunder
      @GuccixThunder Год назад +1

      ​@@CarthusDojo Okay then.
      Can we please get an explanation about the *beast form?*
      Because I'm tired of these people saying "OH IT'S JUST PART OF THE SUPER SAIYAN TRANSFORMATION."
      Other person: "NO MAN, IT'S THE EVOLVED FORM OF POTENTIAL UNLEASH."
      Another person...: "NO YOU DUMMIES, IT'S PART OF *CHI-CHI'S DNA* THAT MADE HIM GO BEAST MODE IN THE FIRST PLACE!!"
      No, no, no, you ignorant idiots. (Except for the second person idea).
      People so trapped in how this form came to existence, and I'm so irritated or frustrated about it. It's getting on my nerves.
      That's why I ask for you. Because you got *a lot of brains* (or maybe some, idk)😅.
      But despite that I would be grateful if you did do that, so thank you.😊

  • @AnInsaneOstrich
    @AnInsaneOstrich Год назад +7

    I feel like Piccolo didn't want to teach Pan ki blasts yet as she is an excitable 4 year old, and he wanted to make sure she had the discipline to not immediately blast everything in sight. So he wasn't saying "you can only learn ki blasts after you can fly" and more "I won't teach you ki blasts until you prove to me you can control both ki, and yourself."

  • @Dontdoit_
    @Dontdoit_ Год назад +13

    I think people need to recognize the genius of Toriyama after this. They say he always forgets stuff but he worked on this movie for 4 years and even if he had assistance I’m sure he came up with most of the ideas and references

    • @daboy5256
      @daboy5256 5 месяцев назад +1

      It’s literally a remake of the original like a fan made manga made canon I could’ve done better

    • @Xertuce
      @Xertuce 2 месяца назад

      You guys are never happy...

  • @Karma-dy8xc
    @Karma-dy8xc Год назад +3

    16 minutes into the video, you have such an insane eye and most of the stuff you point out are things I've never considered when watching
    i respect the 9 hr grind

  • @gameraj_YT
    @gameraj_YT Год назад +177

    Idc what anyone says, im in love with the cgi style for this movie, i love the look of the film, the fight choreography, its just so underrated

    • @jantheking7028
      @jantheking7028 Год назад +31

      The CGI style is truly great, maybe some of the best CGI in anime EVER. However, most fans prefer 2D just because it fits dragon ball more. Plus, the CGI isn't worth it tbh, its so expensive. The budget for this movie was around 35 million due to the CGI while the Budget for Broly was only around 10 million.

    • @GokuSolosAnime
      @GokuSolosAnime Год назад +5

      2D better

    • @KaiKrimson56
      @KaiKrimson56 Год назад +3

      Honestly, aside from some close-ups with Piccolo, the CGI artstyle was so well done, I kept forgetting it wasn't actually 3D.

    • @artsmart_5805
      @artsmart_5805 Год назад +1

      Yeah I can't deny that the cgi does look great but 2d is just preferred over it

    • @djw_tekken8490
      @djw_tekken8490 Год назад

      ​@@jantheking7028lmao no way

  • @mugswrld
    @mugswrld Год назад +43

    14:28 bulma was def throwing a lot of things around

    • @Lambent_Omega
      @Lambent_Omega Год назад +7

      The modelers and animators know what's up 😩

    • @priestesslucy3299
      @priestesslucy3299 Год назад +6

      The shot wasn't the only thing wide there

    • @brosbeforehoes42069
      @brosbeforehoes42069 Год назад +7

      "To 90 to 180 this angle is obtuse it's kinda fat it's gotta big caboose"

    • @lorenzorafael4600
      @lorenzorafael4600 Год назад

      @@Lambent_Omega 🤨📸

    • @Lambent_Omega
      @Lambent_Omega Год назад +2

      @Lorenzo Rafael Nah bro they had a whole buttdget for that scene

  • @anthonyvincent4073
    @anthonyvincent4073 Год назад +5

    Fun fact: Android 18 here looks super similar to that of her GT Counterpart! 18:52

  • @ihonestlydontcare4464
    @ihonestlydontcare4464 Год назад +5

    In the dub its stated that Gamma 2's kick weakened Cell enough for them to beat him, which means without 2's sacrifice even beast might not have been enough to beat Cell Max

    • @FernandoBenitez-ht7uq
      @FernandoBenitez-ht7uq 7 месяцев назад +1

      It's also said in the japanese version, odd he missed that detail

  • @rim4597
    @rim4597 Год назад +34

    I think the reason piccolo wanted pan to master flying before ki blasts is because he wanted pan to be able to doge before attacking

    • @melissamonroe9021
      @melissamonroe9021 Год назад

      No your mission is to dogge

    • @marcusbiggs3971
      @marcusbiggs3971 Год назад +2

      Good catch, glad piccolo didnt teach gohan to dodge first before strike, gohan and videl wouldn't got marry.

    • @TyshaggyGaming
      @TyshaggyGaming Год назад +2

      Pan: Much Zoom, Very Wow

    • @alfalldoot6715
      @alfalldoot6715 8 месяцев назад +1

      DODGE

  • @LightBringer666
    @LightBringer666 Год назад +25

    i don't think Goku's smile at the end is meant to be sly, it's just him being the happy go lucky goku who doesn't get mad over losing. he was chill when he lost to Tenshinhan, he wanted to fight vegeta again and spared him with a smile on his face when asking krillin, he smiled when giving up against cell, and when he lost to beerus. those are just examples that come to mind in the moment, i'm sure there's more

    • @mikeexits
      @mikeexits 23 дня назад

      I'm pretty sure he was smiling at various points when fighting Kid Buu as well, despite everything that happened and everything that was still at stake. Not another example of him smiling when losing, but rather another example of Goku smiling in spite of being faced with realities that would prevent almost anyone else from smiling.

  • @GimmeMyHandleBack
    @GimmeMyHandleBack Год назад +3

    Gotenks’ hair is probably because trunks’ hair is dyed artificially

  • @hugotharador4898
    @hugotharador4898 Год назад +17

    The amount of easter eggs from the manga and other stuff from DB is amazing. It would be neat if when we got more movies (because let's face it, we will) we got more easter eggs, eventually having all of the iconic moments in DB being contained in movies, but yes this would take a few movies to fulfill. Also hopefully more movies would offer more room for answering unanswered questions, and rectifying slight errors.

  • @rosalyndt85
    @rosalyndt85 Год назад +30

    I wonder if the reason why Gamma 1 and 2 don't have infinite energy like 17 and 18 is because 17 and 18 are cyborgs and not full robots, but you could also say that Dr.Gero just had a smarter way of making androids

    • @priestesslucy3299
      @priestesslucy3299 Год назад +14

      Or Hedo was just pioneering new technology rather than directly iterating on his grandfather's work.
      We know how strong Android 17 has become, but Hedo doesn't and even with how strong 17 is, the Gammas are stronger.

  • @jicobfromstreets
    @jicobfromstreets Год назад +11

    19:49 Cell Max's huge laser attack is a reference to Shin Godzilla which was a huge hit in Japan.

  • @Sleipher
    @Sleipher Год назад +6

    To be fair Kami & Piccolo were originally the same person so It makes sense for Piccolo to inherit Kami's memories, and would explain why he doesn't have Nail's memories. The Universe 6 Namekians absorbed a whole bunch of Namekians for the fight and it makes sense they wouldn't get all their memories since they would probably be unable to fight due to memory overload.
    Also a fun idea. When Original Cell exploded the force was enough to destroy the planet. This is probably cause of when Cell was created Dr.Gero's plans for world domination were already ruined beyond repair. However when designing the new Cell Max the Idea was to create an enforcer that could potentially be mass-produced so the explosive power was probably scaled down to ensure he didn't destroy the whole planet since the Red Ribbon army could still rule it.

  • @vaporwingfauxmcloud1190
    @vaporwingfauxmcloud1190 Год назад +7

    I love how they're exploring story and lore deeper... Its the same plot style but I love Akira Toriyama for trying to fix plot holes and backgrounds of our favorite villains ❤😊

  • @StarDust234
    @StarDust234 Год назад +52

    thank you for taking the time out of your life to show us all of these secrets

  • @maximillianoorosco-randhaw9336
    @maximillianoorosco-randhaw9336 Год назад +13

    There is also a Easter egg when Gamma 1 fired a laser shot at SSJ Gohan. The way Gamma 1 was posed was the same as SSG Vegeta’s pose when he fired a KI blast at base Broly in an effort to kill him, and said “What a waste.”

  • @8Yaron8
    @8Yaron8 Год назад

    So much information you could find, thanks for clarifying for the references, it was interesting to watch!

  • @ViolNinj156
    @ViolNinj156 Год назад +3

    At 20:06 when you mentioned that Trunk’s hair goes from blue to purple when fusing into gotenks, I took this as a reference to the fact that Bulma dyes her hair blue, since it’s actually that lavender color z Trunks had in the manga. Leaving me to believe that Trunks also dyes his hair blue.

  • @ninetailedara3802
    @ninetailedara3802 Год назад +167

    Don't see why people could dislike this movie. Such a gem with the hidden details, thanks Carthu.

    • @Blizz247
      @Blizz247 Год назад +10

      Well not everyone universally likes 1 thing

    • @Soul.Resonant
      @Soul.Resonant 11 месяцев назад +4

      @@Blizz247 I think everyone likes sitting

    • @Gytiss93
      @Gytiss93 10 месяцев назад

      @@Soul.Resonant for sure not

    • @sydneyowusu3750
      @sydneyowusu3750 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@Blizz247 facts

    • @genesismultiverse4896
      @genesismultiverse4896 9 месяцев назад

      The Goku parts I say

  • @astralmaster
    @astralmaster Год назад +10

    Another small detail I noticed about Goten and Trunks fusing is that in the poster for the movie, their fingers also don't match up perfectly, hinting that they would fall the fusion.

    • @mikeexits
      @mikeexits 23 дня назад

      I really wanted to see properly fused adult Gotenks for at least a moment. We'll probably finally see it in canon for the first time either in the next movie or when DBS continues.

  • @Spanishinquisitions
    @Spanishinquisitions Год назад +7

    18:18 or raiden vs armstrong
    (ik its not that i just like to attempt humor)

  • @GraighSoul
    @GraighSoul Год назад +1

    22:43 It is explained, after Gamma 1 fades away, Piccolo explains that his charge weakened Cell Max enough for the group to take on and win.

  • @priestesslucy3299
    @priestesslucy3299 Год назад +46

    15:20
    There's a big difference here Carthu.
    Piccolo received Nail's memories as a data dump, a simple download as he assimilated Nail.
    Kami is different. Kami is Piccolo and Piccolo is Kami. Everything Kami and Piccolo experienced are the current Piccolo's actual personal memories

    • @CarthusDojo
      @CarthusDojo  Год назад +5

      The assimilation process was the same though and the memories were a "data dump" in both. Still doesn't explain Dende so the scene is just an oversight in the script. No need to look for a deeper answer.

    • @priestesslucy3299
      @priestesslucy3299 Год назад +12

      @@CarthusDojo I would argue that although the method (Namekian Fusion) was the same, the process was very different.
      Piccolo and Kami are two parts of the same whole reuniting. It's not one person fusing another, it's recompiling your being to its complete state.
      Nail was someone else Piccolo just scooped up. Meanwhile Kami was Piccolo

  • @dragonslayersunpraiser9391
    @dragonslayersunpraiser9391 Год назад +20

    The part where Beerus thought Chelai was cute is one of the funnier parts for me, mostly because Whis clarifies Beerus has a type, which I of course assumed to be cute aliens with white hair. (not too unlike some attendant we know!)

  • @CrownedGaming
    @CrownedGaming 4 месяца назад +1

    This makes you appreciate all the effort put into these movies so much more lol. Thanks!

  • @PickledMajjin
    @PickledMajjin Год назад +4

    U honestly inspire my vids, hope i can get them to be as good as urs

  • @apersonwhoexists3383
    @apersonwhoexists3383 Год назад +11

    Fun fact: When Piccolo nearly gets killed by Cell max, he seems to turn into and out of his potential unleashed form. This could just be lighting but it also might be how he was trying to alarm Gohan of how severe the situation was while trying not to let Cell max actually kill him.

  • @grandcaptainspeedydash
    @grandcaptainspeedydash Год назад +23

    It really shows that they took their time to make as many references as possible, though it might of been better with less story point references.

    • @darkman452
      @darkman452 Год назад +2

      They only care about nostalgia bait and that’s all

    • @DerAltruist
      @DerAltruist 9 месяцев назад

      *might have

  • @FrenchVorish
    @FrenchVorish Год назад +4

    That reminds me that Vegeta says that he finally defeated Goku at the end of the movie... while he never actually lost a single duel against Goku, at least in the Dragonball original manga.
    During the Saiyan arc, there was a team up against Vegeta, and Goku alone would have lost as soon as Vegeta turned into an Oozaru and they more or less never had a duel until the Majin Vegeta part... in wich Vegeta eventually tricked Goku to go fight Buu. Vegeta never actually lost a one on one fight against Goku.

  • @Mang0rol
    @Mang0rol 7 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you for doing videos like these all the time man, i think we can all agree that it's worth the time.

  • @emperortoho
    @emperortoho Год назад +12

    17:41 I think this is because the gammas are completely mechanical, whereas as far as I can tell androids 17 and 18 are hardly mechanical at all(keep in mind that the original term for android in japanese db translates more similarly to artificial human, so not all androids are completely mechanical or even close)

    • @Hamzurger
      @Hamzurger 11 месяцев назад +1

      Android 17 and 18 are cyborgs, and android 16 and the gammas are completely mechanical

  • @elikaiquinn3393
    @elikaiquinn3393 Год назад +5

    22:06 in Beast gohans transformation you can also hear kid gohans scream when he transforms

  • @dbrazell4
    @dbrazell4 Год назад

    Great video man!! This was really neat!

  • @theat3show
    @theat3show Год назад +7

    2:22 i think that is goten in the background because in the manga he is also a big fan of clean god

  • @UnwantedGhost1
    @UnwantedGhost1 Год назад +15

    Another 10 out of 10 Dragonball content from one of the arguably best Dragonball RUclipsr ever. Thank you for making my Saturday worth mentally enduring.

  • @ehsanulalam4541
    @ehsanulalam4541 Год назад +11

    Orange piccolo:symbolism of how piccolo has grown over the decades.
    Beast Gohan:I ma pull something out of my ass and it is gonna work

    • @slinux8420
      @slinux8420 Год назад +4

      Legit funny how the movie would have been better if they kept it a piccolo movie

    • @malachithekiller3117
      @malachithekiller3117 Год назад

      Where gonna act like Goku doesn’t do it all the time

    • @ehsanulalam4541
      @ehsanulalam4541 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@malachithekiller3117He does but we aren't talking about goku right now are we

  • @luckymouse1988
    @luckymouse1988 Год назад +2

    To add a little bit to the 8 thing and Hachimaru, the spy drone created by Hedo.
    "Hachi" is also the word for bee or wasp, and "maru" is a common suffix added to a word to make a name out of it.
    It's a Wasp drone name "Waspy" with an 8 in its display because because "eight" sounds the same as "wasp" in Japanese.

    • @samueloak1600
      @samueloak1600 Год назад

      Much like Hacchan then, no?

    • @luckymouse1988
      @luckymouse1988 Год назад

      @@samueloak1600 No clue, I'm not familiar with a character called hacchan.

    • @samueloak1600
      @samueloak1600 Год назад

      @@luckymouse1988 Android 8's nickname given by Gokū

  • @Popeyes_Eater
    @Popeyes_Eater Год назад +6

    10:06
    Who else is imagining stepping on an ant pile and the lone survivor turns Super Saiyan and proceeds to whoop your ass. Just me? Ok.

  • @mrwonka407
    @mrwonka407 Год назад +10

    22:15 This is most likely a reference to Gohan's kick to Perfect Cell that made him vomit #18.

    • @Goat.kuna.
      @Goat.kuna. 10 месяцев назад

      wasn’t that a gut punch

    • @mrwonka407
      @mrwonka407 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@Goat.kuna. Gohan got a lot of hits on Cell. A gut punch, an uppercut, a kick in the face, a kick in the belly, a Kamehameha, another Kamehameha
      Gohan absolutely violated Cell after he obtained SSJ2 lmao

  • @rikawon
    @rikawon Год назад +6

    I absolutely love watching your DB Videos! It is so calming and just in general a fun video to watch! Awesome upload Carthu! 😀

  • @Berhferdy
    @Berhferdy Год назад +7

    14:35 when Bulma was making a mess you know what was happening😈

  • @kamron4814
    @kamron4814 Год назад +1

    2:13 I’m watching this for the 5th time I think and bro you’re literally right there in the picture, it’s you’re exact avatar and it shows you as a fan this is awesome and in my opinion a nod towards the fans buddy, I can’t believe you didn’t mention it

  • @omenxxg
    @omenxxg Год назад +13

    I admire the work you put into these videos thank you. Your editing style never bores me.

  • @ThatBoiDarius_
    @ThatBoiDarius_ Год назад +6

    Carthu coming through with the upload on my birthday can’t wait to watch it!

  • @lazy965
    @lazy965 Год назад +3

    With the meditation thing I saw something that basically said that vegeta was trying to meditate and do things like jiren which was holding him back
    Which was shown in the fight because vegeta was being defensive through the whole fight while goku was being wild and was pushing vegeta back until the end where vegeta started being himself

  • @williamstm92
    @williamstm92 Год назад +1

    20:09 when they fail the fusion and get the fat Gotenks, it’s exactly the same as when Goku and Vegeta fail their fusion dance and we get the fat Gogeta in the Broly movie. Trunks/Vegetas fingers on top of Goten/Goku’s fingers

  • @alexsheperd2060
    @alexsheperd2060 Год назад +5

    I honestly think Piccolo didn’t teach Pan Ki blasts yet was because she’s 3 and toddlers are prone to overreact so if she’s calm and focused enough to fly it’s safe to teach her Ki blasts

  • @nimrodshachar2773
    @nimrodshachar2773 Год назад +2

    2:18 "unnamed hero"? That is the majestic cleangod.

  • @lemonsss1094
    @lemonsss1094 Год назад +4

    21:27 if anything, it should have been a reference to the ending of goku vs jackie chun

  • @Yosheta
    @Yosheta Год назад +6

    19:09 I thought the glasses she threw away were Gohan's.

  • @FafooYt
    @FafooYt Год назад +3

    Love your videos
    This video is gonna be so awesome and a banger!!!
    Great workk

  • @sifubamonghezi8550
    @sifubamonghezi8550 Год назад +8

    8:26 why is Goten so cold with the ki blast 💀

  • @bigbitehood1353
    @bigbitehood1353 Год назад +10

    14:12 dude can have different tastes, geez!

  • @vuxxx0
    @vuxxx0 Год назад +6

    It's always a damn banger from carthu, keep up the good work.

  • @Akb_2011
    @Akb_2011 Год назад +4

    21:40 THE LEGENDARY ANIMATOR (w/ Shintani)

  • @Leostar-Regalius
    @Leostar-Regalius Год назад +2

    the whole krillen reminding piccolo he could grow both made me mad and made me laugh because i always made a joke about him forgetting he could grow during parts that would've possibly benefitted from it

  • @dmanrocket
    @dmanrocket Год назад +3

    man i feel like not enough people know who you are for the amount of work you put into your videos even with you at 600k subs it still seems like its not enough

  • @crackakiller1
    @crackakiller1 Год назад +7

    I feel like there's more than one interpretation of the smile Goku gives at the end. He wanted a good fight and he got one. He knows losing this fight is going to make him stronger and can't wait for the rematch. He considers Vegeta to be one of his closest friends and being surpassed by him isn't a big deal. Vegeta earned that win and Beerus wouldn't have let Goku hold back.

  • @manuelzelaya8973
    @manuelzelaya8973 Год назад +5

    I find it so weird that semi perfect cell’s explosion could destroy a whole planet, but Cell Max’s explosion only got the entirety of the RR Base

  • @I_LOVE_COEMS
    @I_LOVE_COEMS Год назад +2

    You forgotten that in the English dub Gohan going Beast mode’s soundtrack has the same screaming sound as him going ssj2 in the Cell saga.

  • @Zaza-sb2xd
    @Zaza-sb2xd Год назад +2

    Fun Fact: Cell Max might be referenced to the 2016 movie, shin Godzilla. A rogue kaiju that kept evolving but relied purely on instinct, such as cell max. The tail was also special instead of being a normal tail, like cell max that shot the purple energy from the tail, just like cell max. Cell max releasing it from his body was also just like it, except shin’s where from his back then full body. Shin also had a visible and obvious weak spot, just like cell max. They also didn’t know what would happen, had both of these monsters been continued to rampage.

  • @skylermosby3375
    @skylermosby3375 Год назад +3

    Carthu, I train BJJ and Judo. Sometimes when training you try things your not good at to get live practice with. Goku might not have "let Vegeta win" Goku might just have been holding back a little to practice and was happy for the success his training partner felt.

  • @gameover_477
    @gameover_477 Год назад +3

    17:30 I think its more of Piccolo riffing on how Gamma 2 said the same thing when they fought

  • @bigbitehood1353
    @bigbitehood1353 Год назад +2

    17:14
    "...and if you've (seen this film), you'll know that (Gohan) just made a huge mistake, and it's actually kinda funny in a way"
    -Joseph Anderson (edited by me)

  • @wolfgod6443
    @wolfgod6443 Год назад +5

    Another thing to note about Hachimaru. At least in the dub, he's specifically a normal bee turned into a machine. So it's an android level bee. Between him and the super saiy-ants, I think Cell is gonna have some competition as the ultimate bugman. I also find it hilarious that Hedo makes a speech about how he's going to take Magenta's money and run off after Hachimaru stings the guy. It's not too far off from Colonel Violet taking all of Red's money as his empire falls in the original series. Poor Magenta died as he lived, getting robbed by those close to him.