2023 Hellcat with 800 miles Grenades! Warranty Denied.. 36k in Repairs
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- Опубликовано: 4 май 2023
- I react to a recent article put out by Carscoops in which the owner of a 2023 Hellcat Jailbreak states that his engine with only 800 miles on it is defective and Dodge refuses to pay for the replacement costs totaling more than 36k. Dodge claims the vehicles emissions system has been tampered with and this voided his factory warranty. Who do you think is right here?
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His own pictures show that it wasn't denied for the MMD. He tuned it, blew it up, & then put the stock tune back in. It wasn't defective...
I agree !!!
100% agree when you tune your car you always accept the fact that it will never go back to the dealership for warranty work
What Moron would tune a brand new car before breaking it in.
Should have reported it stolen.
@EvoSGooD naw they should've have never molded it or take it like and adult and take responsibility for fucking it up
Always been told if you have the money to modify, then you have the money for repairs.
Agreed mate
Exactly, that why you don't mod cars with a warranty
@@demigodq6083 yea never understood the mindset of paying 100k for a new vehicle and then looking at it saying “I can make it better”… you should show off your “creativity/craftsman’s skills” on a real project car.. not trying to modify over-engineered vehicle with manufacturers warranty lol
I was always told you gotta pay to play
Dodge is unreliable when it comes to warranty defects despite everything being OEM. Except mufflers and oil catch can of course. The car is deemed to be a lemon if they don’t want to fix the problem like me dealing with dealership craps for 2 years I have given them many chances lol. I drive a 2021 392 widebody scatpack. Forgot to mentioned despite the breakdown period I have never done a single burnout and yet my driveshaft connected to the rear differential was spitting grease all over.
I'm a technician for Dodge going on 31 years now. I've never seen any repair denied for a muffler delete. If you tune it, that will void your warranty. For a claim, we have to do digital imaging of the eng damage. We also have to do a scan report on every computer on the car. We send that in and they decide if they will cover it. If you want to play you gotta pay.
😂😂😂 best comment on here 👌 👏
What does it say about the car ?
My 2012 ram that I bought brand new had 2 lifters fail at 30k and destroyed the engine. The truck was out of warranty by 6 days it had a 3 year 36k factory warranty on it. You being a dodge technician for that long would there be any help or contacts that you could provide me to maybe get my truck fixed.
Can you tell me that, why they choose to put me in a position where all they can do is a “good will” by telling me to keep on driving the vehicle with a serious warranty defect? They are the ones who are putting me as a customer at risk despite everything being OEM? They don’t even want to open up the damn car to find the issue. Everything on my car is OEM as mention above and its deemed a lemon lol. The 2 dealerships I’m dealing with neglected my car. I smell a business being funny. when I experience something where they tell the customer keep on driving the vehicle for how it is, until the wheel pops off. Then, who will it be blamed them or ME? I drive a 392 widebody scatpack.
@@nahbro3240 He wants something for free and think they should look other way for being 3 days past NOT GOING TO HAPPEN
Feel safer on the road already knowing this guy is not driving around in this car
Peassie
Enjoy your Budlight
There is always more to the story... 800 miles and just couldn't wait to mess with the engine, he learned a valuable lesson.
Will never understand why people don't just buy a used one if they're going to mod it.
He is an idiot to do so.
@@invalidusername_5101low deposit, high payments .
These cars already have more power than you could ever dream of, and they make awesome music too! If it works, don't screw with it! Enjoy it as it is!
Its mind blowing to think that an 800hp muscle car still ain't enough for some people.
@@executiveinvestments it’s still a fast car heavy yes but what’s the point of spending money on a Hellcat then?
if u wanna go fast u def need to mod it cats arent that quick in the racing world
U sir then should buy a Prius. Factory Hellcats are slow
@@tkostang what do you even 1:29 drive?
READ THE MANUAL AND LIVE BY THE WARRANTY INFORMATION. If you are told not to Tune the Car, Don’t do it. Break In Periods are there for obvious reasons!!! Yes, we like Immediate Gratification and Can’t Wait, but the consequences are too steep for violators!!!
These cars don't fully unlock till after break in period. Usually 500-1000 miles. It'll bog itself down till then. It is possible to damage the engine still but you really gotta be stupid with it.
Theres zero reason to break in any engine. if something is wrong it will show in the first few warm ups. Thats all you need.
@@N54God666 yeah ok! Lol
@Ellis Preston you know there's metal shavings likely in your block till first maybe even second oilchange right? There's absolutely reason to break in a vehicle. If you think otherwise, go blow 100k on a car and trash it the first week. You'll understand then
@@chilledtundra7397 no theres not, you only need 3 or 4 warm ups, change the oil and go.
Imagine buying an 800hp car and being like nope, too slow. I’ll just sit over here with my stock RT Plus lol.
I'll take a stock rt plus that's running over a dead at 800 miles hellcat any day lol
I have an '05 Ram Rumble Bee with Super Chip tuner, CAI and oversized Magnaflow(still single exhaust). It was 370 stock and probably just creeping near 410-420 and I'm completely content with that. It's AWD so fun to launch from red lights in the rain when people think I'll just sit there and spin the rear if I take off fast. 115k miles and still running strong. I'm pretty sure I would never ever buy a used SRT or Hellcat knowing it was probably abused.
@@TheRealCatofI wouldn’t. He could still sell that blown up Hellcat Jailbreak for about $20k 😂 somebody will just throw a new engine in there. People sell Hellcat engines all day here in Cali. I found one for $11k .
And screwing up your warranty
I worked as a technician a Chrysler dealer for 20 years, the stock tunes are set up a little bit on the rich side to help protect the engines. It is very easy to tell if a tune has been installed and it voids the warranty. I also worked at a Ford dealer for 10 years and I saw this situation many times. Almost every time the customer lied about it. One of the funny ones a customer had a SVT Cobra Mustang and driving down the road it would just cut out and come back. Customer was asked if he modded the vehicle and said no. I removed the PCM and it had a Superchips sticker on the back of the PCM 🤣. I`ve never seen a warranty denied for an exhaust mod, but mostly for neglecting service and PCM / engine mods. Even then you can a lot of the time get the DSM to cover stuff, what makes it worse for everybody is when the customer lies, it just waste everyones time.
Furd owners man 😂
Can you tell me that, why they choose to put me in a position where all they can do is a “good will” by telling me to keep on driving the vehicle with a serious warranty defect? They are the ones who are putting me as a customer at risk despite everything being OEM in the suspension? The only thing I’ve modified was oil catch can and muffler delete. They don’t even want to open up the damn car to find the issue. Everything on my car is OEM as mention above and its deemed a lemon lol. The 2 dealerships I’m dealing with neglected my car. I drive a 2021 392 widebody scatpack. Forgot to mention despite the break down period for 500 miles i have never done a single burnout and yet my driveshaft connected to the rear differential was spitting grease all over. Wanna tell me anything before I lemon law the B####.
@@Nico_Z06 That sounds like a leaking pinion seal from your description. I have no idea why that would be denied. Maybe try a different dealer or call Chrysler directly.
@@helluvatime4562 which I did and I’ve made a fat complaint called FCA, dodge, and Chrysler all referred to me to deal with the dealerships. They have been GUESSING for what’s going on. I don’t even know what part to replace which is ridiculous. In my opinion they have failed me to do their inspections properly and did not follow the basic guidelines to diagnose the vehicle. They even created a “star case” but no further response from FCA but to replace the right hand side wheel bearing only and I knew it was not going to fix the issue. I’ve getting mixed answers from everyone from FCA, dodge, MASTER technician’s, SERVICE MANAGERS. They all failed me as a mopar owner.
@@helluvatime4562 put it into reverse going left and right you can hear this loud creaking noises snapping noises. All of my RO’s have been noted saying “normal at this time” lol several times and there is no engine codes. They were happy to replace the driveshaft but none of the suspension components.
My 2020 Charger Scatpack engine just blew, connecting Rods cylinder 5 & 6 and during the warranty process they checked for a tune and took pictures of the exhaust. Luckily mine was stock but they were definitely looking for any way not to cover the repair. FYI new 6.4 liter was going to cost 15K.
You can find a hellcat for 18k.. parts only
Then pay an additional $20k to put that engine into your car. That would be dumb.
@Stinky10R I just meant the difference. 20k for a drop and hook is a bit steep. I could do it in a weekend with a lift, but I'm not sure what a ahop would charge. Either way.... my point was, they would have charged him 15k for a 392. When the cat is only 3k more.
@James Jones but you still have to have the space to store the hellcat, proper tools to do the job, and knowledge of the software. It's not simply just buying an $18k wrecked hellcat and swapping the engine in, in a weekend. I do see what you're saying though; but the average hellcat owner will not be able to undertake the task. It's too much.
How did you break the car
By bet is tuner did an overly aggressive timing curve for pump gas and the engine has a hole in that piston. If that's the case, a good tech could tear it down, replace the burned piston for way less than what is being discussed. If the engine was truly "grenaded", they wouldn't even have compression numbers.
It could have just broke the valve spring at the top of the spring holding the valve shut no compression. It's ironic all the other cylinders had compression.
It needs to be torn down for inspection. Maybe one piston has a hole melted through it and the other 7 are right behind it.
@@Ed.01 If the valve is shut, you will have compression.
Sounds like it blew up on the dyno
@@tundrawhisperer4821 facts
His beef should be with the meathead who tuned is car & hold them responsible
They will do anything to void your warranty. I would only add Direct Connection upgrades installed by the dealer to avoid dealing with this kind of nightmare 😮
Facts and the crazy thing is the redeye kits are basically all in
Yea they will try to void it when possible, but don't be an idiot and do things that give them the reason after 10sec.
Sounds like to me the owner was playing around and pushed to much and tried to hide it to get it fixed
Of course the guy is lying through his teeth as usual
If he tuned it and it blew. Case closed. Sucks but it is what it is.
Dude needs to own up to his mistakes... Plain and Simple, you tune the car and it gives out, let alone he didnt give it a good break in service
why would you modify tune adjust a new 800 hp car at only 800 miles Why?
Exactly 💯..... following 2 many trends !
Ignorance
These cars cost Alot,dodge should cover anything
⚡He modified it to ⚡🍀get R done 🤯✌️
@@chriswalker955 no they shouldn’t 😊
The manufacturer warranties their cars as they build them. Expecting them to cover a grenaded engine that has been modded is like asking a roofer to cover leaks that were caused by you adding skylights afterwards.
I had a P.O.S. 2016 Challenger HellCat. All within 16k miles I went through 2 motors and a supercharger. Dodge inspected engine and said it wasn’t anything I did, there’s been some internal oiling issues with the 6.2L. I actually babied the car while owning it smashing the pedal a few times. I really wanted to keep the car as a gift to myself after starting my own business and surviving 25 yrs (saying I’ve made it in life). That 2nd engine went out during break in period with about 250 miles on it. Chrysler denied me a 3rd motor saying the next one is on me ($30k) car was still under 3yr/36k warranty!! I went rounds and rounds with them finally giving up and traded car in on a beautiful 5.0 Mustang Gt Performance Pack 2.
#coyotegang
Pretty simple really, have dodge pull up the info in front of him and a lawyer showing his cars ECM info!
Tear it down and see if it's a lean condition or mechanical break!
The answers are in the car. There's always a way to find the truth.
Imagine blowing a 6.2 liter supercharged engine at 800 miles. I bet the guys heart dropped.
10:35 I'd also like to suggest: Don't get too nuts if this car is your only ride. Installing an Ebay blower to your car isn't nearly as cool as riding the bus isn't.
It's amazing they can tell if your PCM has been unlocked but can't figure out a way to keep the keys from being cloned by thieves...
As long as he unlocked the ECU, it's totally on the owner. No ifs ands or buts.
haha car has 800 miles on it buddy. A tune wont blow up the mf engine with barley any miles on it. there was something def defective before tune
@@mrdr_392Prove it. Seems like you nor the owner can. Hence the denial of claim. Oh well...guy is an idiot for doing what he did. He OBVIOUSLY didn't ONLY do a MM delete
@sad you're insane 🤥
@@mrdr_392 yeah you’re slow 😂 homie def didn’t follow the break in, tuned it, and beat on it lmfao.
I bad tune will kill a new naturally aspirated engine during the breakin period. A boosted big block V8 will definitely grenade.
One of my first jobs as a tech was at a Ford dealer in the 1990's. Pulled the heads of a mustang gt and to my surprise the pistons had melted in a few spots. It was not warranty. Few other techs come over look at the pistons started laughing said yeah that's what nitrous will do. So yeah these guys know what happens because they see it all the time. If not the guy working on it, I'm sure the engineers at techline do. I guarantee they had engineers involved from techline to make the call.
I read where the Hellcat's owner also tampered with the pcm. Apparently there was a diagnostics done and it showed pcm tampering. If this is the case why isn't 800 plus horsepower enough? Those Hellcat Redeyes are awesome cars but I'd never mess with one and that includes a mid muffler delete.
Some people just want more power man. I seen a couple guys that red key 1000hp hellcats as daily’s just to do it
I feel bad for the car :( . He broke a beautiful machine .
it’s just a dodge lol.
the hellcat feels like hell and thanks you for your empathy.
Beware, The dealer (WiTech) diagnostic software can read the number of writes to any and all ECUs in the vehicle. Restoring a stock tune will show additional (at least 2 writes) to a PCM. These counters cannot be reversed or reset. Counters change when using Tazer, alfaobd etc as well.
That’s why u buy a stock pcm and tune that one leave the original in ur glovebox then install that one when u have an issue it’s pretty simple
@Six cylinder jeeplife Bruno
There are other modules that are odometer 'locked'. DTCs will be set when you revert to the original PCM with different odo. Won't necessarily be a MIL or readable with most scan tools. It depends on the diligence of the technician working the case or how far the "warranty agent" will pursue a claim
@@cbruno12180 still throws a code
@@mrdr_392 no it don’t it’s 2 separate pcm how can it throw a code u idiot
@@cbruno12180and then warranty will ask questions as to why there are only 3 key cycles but the mileage stamped in the ECM go from 10 to 30 to 2246.
that’s why you hear people say don’t do anything unless you got the money and don’t care about the warranty
There is more to this story, all I can say.
You know there is!
I have 86K on my 2015 Hellcat I took the Cats out at like 400 miles. I have had Zero problems 👍
these mf are idiots scared to do a mid muffler delete. The car blew probably bc he tuned it before break in period
Taking the cats off doesn't change much but you still have to keep the sensors or the PCM won't be able to give the injection the right amount of fuel.
If you tune a car, ESPECIALLY with one where you have to swap out the PCM. It is super easy for the dealer to tell if it's been tuned as the mileage will not match
For a third of that 36k, he probably can get a forged 426 from HHP, MMX, or Demon Performance
I always wanted my Scatpack to be as fast as a Hellcat. I know of at least ONE Hellcat my car is faster than 😂
I'm sure there's a bunch more that yours is faster than on copart😂
Mine too and it's a rt,😅😂
5:09 gave me enough info to pull up this customer report. I love when the dealership go above and beyond & these customers still blast them online (surveys/reviews).
Can you tell me that, why they choose to put me in a position where all they can do is a “good will” by telling me to keep on driving the vehicle with a serious warranty defect? They are the ones who are putting me as a customer at risk despite everything being OEM in the suspension, no tune, no nothing, completely stock? The only thing I’ve modified was oil catch can and muffler delete. They don’t even want to open up the damn car to find the issue. Everything on my car is OEM as mention above and its deemed a lemon lol. The 2 dealerships I’m dealing with neglected my car. I drive a 2021 392 widebody scatpack. Forgot to mention despite the break down period for 500 miles i have never done a single burnout and yet my driveshaft connected to the rear differential was spitting grease all over. Wanna tell me anything before I lemon law the B####.
@@Nico_Z06 probably not telling us the whole story 🤨
@@tmcnamara0182 it’s alright your not the one who pays for the vehicle do you?
@@tmcnamara0182 when you put the car into reverse turning left or right you’ll hear this loud snapping creaking noises. None doesn’t want to figure it out and the master technician is telling me to keep on driving the vehicle the way it is. So there is the whole story. Be mindful that when you modify something you void the warranty. With me as a student for automotive engineering, I would not touch the car and fix it up myself because I’m not going to void the warranty. Keep in mind the only thing I have done is muffler delete and oil catch can. As everything else is OEM.
If this video is about your car you should take your valve covers off and see if you have a broken valve spring. Pull spark plugs and use a camera to inspect your valves and pistons. Dealership might just be trying to get you for money. Or you have a blown head gasket.
No sympathy for this guy…it sucks but he played the stupid game and won the stupid prize.
I bought my 2009 Dodge Challenger R/T new with STP and six speed manual. 3:92 gears. I picked the 5.7 because of the vvt. Less than 5000 miles on it and I had the suitcase mufflers cut off the back and straight piped back to the tips. Add an air hammer open element air filtration system. Also put the 93 octane tune from Diablo on it. It has ran this way since then. I have drag raced it at Z-Max and put 206,000 miles on it to date. Original clutch is still in it. I ran Royal Purple in it for all fluids. It looks brand new to this day. I went in last time to get it inspected. The guy came out and apologized for screwing it up. I asked what he did and he said that it read 206,000 miles. I said that it was correct. He could not believe it wasn’t brand new. I agree though. If I had a red eye that I would leave it alone. At least until out of warranty. Good video Racer X.
Cap
I love the 6 speed I too had 3.92 gears . I had them swapped out for a Dana 60 4.10 gearsand raised the rpms rev limit to 6500 rpm
On top of everything else if you have eight hundred miles on it, it's still in the break-in. And not to be over revved.
fuck that redline that shit to 8,000rpms off the lot! Piston rings for everyone!
I have heard people say that engine break in periods no longer exist, but I know I wouldn't be pushing any new car until that supposed period is over!
An exhaust wont void your vehicle warranty unless you remove catalytic converters then it get scary....i absolutely agree...i think he was doing a dyno and tuner didn't know what he was doing and switched the ecm back.
Did he remember there a break in period on engines?
500 miles. He was at 800 miles. It's already broken in.
@@arlesterblackmond5603 Dodge service guys say it's closer to 1500
@@arlesterblackmond5603I never heard of a car breaking in at 500, probably missing a 1 infront of that
500 miles aint enough for break in. more like 1500 at the very least.
RUclips has people thinking it's 500 miles...
I see a lot of people who get a new Hellcat, Redeye, whatever… not respecting the recommended break in period. This guy only had 800 miles on it, yet it was modded, and tuned, who knows at what mileage it was done at, and how hard he pushed the engine, maybe this is caused the engine failure. 🤔
The braking period is 500 miles, but these motors are already broken from the factory. Yes I recommend taking it easy the first 500. But like I said, the braking period is 500 miles, that’s when all the goodies turn on.
@@williamrose7184 why would the owners manual say 1000-1500 miles then ?
@@williamrose7184 *breaking in
Both of mine say 500 in the owners manual and all the good stuff turns on when you hit 500. I don’t know ow what your reading
Talk to text
Sucks for the guy but a tune is the most important thing about modifying a car. If you get a bad one, it's not if, it's when that things go bad. And usually sooner rather than later.
Thanks for taking this on.
under 800 miles and gets a muffler delete just to sound cool LMAO. Ppl dont mod your car if it's under warranty plain and simple.
RUclips pressures for delusional fame
Just check the black box! It will show what happened!
Where is it?
*Tunes Hellcat during break-in period*
"WhY DiD iT BlOw Up!!!???"
Sounds to me like somebody beat the shit out of it right off show room floor!!! These cars are supposed to be broken in by the book….
Oh he broke it alright…
Maybe he beat on the car before the breakin miles on engine??
Awesome information. Agreed that this was not due to a Mid Muffler delete. It was definitely a tune gone bad. These cars are super fast right out of the factory, don’t mess with the engines. They were designed this way for a reason and not to mess with them is one. Great content as usual. See ya on the next one.
Stop with the don't mod it bullshit. These cars easily live at over 900 to the wheels beating the shit out of them. If it died with just a tune then
A. It was a shit tune
B. He wasn't using enough octane for what it's tuned for
C. He ran it out of oil and/or was beating on a cold engine
D. It actually was a faulty engine
Unfortunately if the ladder happens when you've tuned it you're shit out of luck but these are far and few between. 99% of them will live past 900 wheel easily as long as you actually maintain the damn thing and don't beat on it cold etc etc. The thing has alot of mod potential. It's stupid to leave them stock because you're afraid it's gonna blow up. Don't use one or two examples out of 1000s of examples as reasons to not mod a very moddable car. I agree I would have got a used one if I were planning to mod but either way it's not that big a deal. People have the wrong outlook on tuning as if it just always destroys engines or something.
No kidding I test drove one and it was scary fast
Awesome content buddy Hope you're doing well 🙏👍💪
I heard of this and will be doing a video too (ha, you beat me lol). There are a lot of issues that dont add up, like you said, why tune a car with no parts added. If they were removed, thats the kind of thing you can tell, especially on that kind of mileage. Also, what kind of tuner would do this prior to the break in period?
Also, Dodge's statement about emissions voiding warranties is illegal and violates Moss-Magnussen Act. It would be on Dodge to show that exaust mods, emissions mods were a direct resultant of the damage.
I am reluctant to call the owner, but he isnt a young dude. I dont want to get him in trouble with his attorney either, but I do think Dodge should have just fixed his car. This is massively bad for Dodge's image as a brand. This story is wild fire, and everyone heard of it (and by the time I get around to making my vid, I suspect other bigger channels will cover it).
Also, Dodge changed their story as well, initially calling it denied over the MMD, then changing to the ECU. Its messed up either way. Because its not clear cut, I would have warrantied it out. There are more details to this, but for everything that points to one direction, theres a piece that points in the other.
I have talked to this guy since he started posting. Mine was overheating in the first 1000 miles. Dodge blames my borla exhaust. When the motor blew they claimed tampering too. Dodge is full of it.
I just went E85 in my Durango SRT and just as I got the e85 bugs worked out and engine running great, my Rear differential decided to take a crap. Im limping it currently until I can get to dealer in the morning but hopefully from what I hear is that the Differential is part of the powertrain warranty and tuning your car wont affect that particular part from being covered. Now they may says since Im making more power with the tune that it caused the problem but truth is my car has had a slight issue with the rear end a few months ago before all this and it was something that decided not to show its face until right now so we shall see.
my 392 TA blew up rear end at 700 miles and it was covered plus new driveshaft, no mods and no issues from Dodge
This guy fumbled on the goal line. The MM delete wont blow your motor only a modification by someone who doesn’t have the skills to modify a hellcat…Oof meter !!!!! Also MMX has complete redeye motors for 14k not sure where 36k comes from and the “tampering code” is a ghost code for the dealer OBD2 that’s stored in the cars BCM which never goes away.
Yikes! A brand-new car already trashed. I would not mess with anything if a car is under warranty! It's just asking for problems! Great video bud!
Hope he has fun paying It off lol that or he files insurance and his insurance goes up lol a lot
Some people just don't have the brains to understand that. Want others to cover for their doings.
@@fcaughli yup I thought about voiding my warranty but it's not worth it on a new car. Why would I wanna pay 4-7-10 years for a new car that doesn't work. Be different if it was paid off
All I know is I replaced my muffler and removed the resonators on my 5.7 and didn't tune it. It lost a noticeable amount of power and lost mpg. It definitely effects performance.
Hmmm neither of those things are even remotely possible with what you’re saying you did….if you replaced the exhaust with even a half ass decent exhaust in all likely hood you would gain power (NOT NOTICEABLE).
That’s a lie and taking resonators has always been a good thing
If you can't afford to replace the engine, play it safe and use a warranty safe tune. Ford, Chevy and Dodge have been supplying these for years now.
Are they pricey? Yes, but if it blows up, you're still covered under warranty.
Agreed with your video. Tune and except the consequences if it grenades. The crazy part, is tuning the car with only 800 miles!! My goodness, the car hasn't even had its first oil change and been properly broken in. I'm on side of corporate on this one!!
Wouldn’t touch the pcm unless the warranty is up. To many things can happen. i did the Mid Muffler delete on my HC, but I’m good with the Power it’s putting out. No reason to touch it beyond that
Mid Muffler delete?...why on a HC would u do that...not loud enough?...or small penis syndrome
I live in California and I haven’t done anything to my scat pack because California’ s strict laws 😢great video
Just do a mid muffler and resonator delete if you have a hemi trim or up and you’ll be fine don’t do anything else if you live in California.
Awesome video, very informative & excellent presentation.
When I saw this video pop up in my notifications, the title freaked me out a little. Watching it was a comfort. Turns out dude is a liar and is facing repercussions for it.
the dodge dealerships here where i live take new cars to get a mid muffler delete before selling the car.
Maybe should if waited until the engine broke in around 5/6k miles before tuning it. Could be the cause just a guess. Just making a suggestion
Why would anyone not be satisfied with an 800 horsepower beast?
Ive been a Dealership Service Manager for over 40 years.. A Customer tells a story...THE CAR TELLS THE TRUTH!!!!!
It is up to the person to pick your poison. If money is no object, do as you will. If you work hard for what you have and love the things you own it is your game of roulette. Me personally nothing gets touched untill warranty is gone and probably till after it's payed for. No payments and a little money thrown at it to personalized after. If any doubt and you can't cover repairs just don't do it. There is already regular maintenance to spend cash if it's burning a hole in your pocket
I’m also just waiting to pay off my car to modify it. I’m thinking of only adding a CAI and exhaust.
@@davidism8118 it's smart, if someone has disposable income to modify why not just pay off the car and own it then modify with the saved money that was the payment. instead of the bank. Some people don't care or realize it isn't their car till they have the title. They are happy if the payments are where they want them and don't care about the grand total. They will do payments forever never enjoying not having a loan. Just because they drive a car around doesn't make it theirs. Love the repo videos and how crazy and pissed they get. Make your payments and get the title this wouldn't be a problem. Then they can do what they want.
There is a dude at work that actually took out a loan on wheels and tires yet a little while back he was four payments behind running around scrounging around for cash. They are nuts
Correct most of us here just dont book cars like this up simply just wait untill got cash for lots of reasons and the couple that i do know have loan on cars like this put down like over 80 percent deposit and payed rest off within a year with doing no mods in that timeframe
I agree with the Dodge they would know if it was unlocked. Probably an integrity checker. Once you can anything they would be able to tell. It's very complex to hide that and I doubt tuners know how to do that. If you ever download software on the Internet and the company gives you a hash for a hash checker to verify the software is in its original form. It's the same concept.
You can't tell if an ecu is flashed with a custom tune then back to stock.
@@N54God666 You flash it back stock. It would show up in the logs. Let's mess with the logs and change them. We can go on and on. They can tell if you changed it. Why tune it ? Dodge is offering direct connection and you get your warranty.
@@acevett06 simply as clearing IM. My point, it's undetectable.
@@N54God666 Good luck with that. It's detectable. It's not hard. The problem is they need someone that understands the tech side of things. That's not always the case.
@@acevett06 proves you know nothing. I already have multiple software on my computer, one of which is for Dodge that can do this. You can clear individual logs, whole IM, codes. Everything. Its not hard.
My 2023 Hellcat Jailbresk wide body is in the shop now at 900 miles.
Rearend seems to have failed.
I was cruising doing 70-75 when it started making a terrible noise, that made me call a roadside sssistance.
No modifications to the car, we’ll see how they handle it
Ended up being a rock that was between body of car and driveshaft-
Thank you and great video
I am wondering if the tune caused the engine damage or whether the engine was defective from the factory? 🤔
That's why the tune viid the warranty. U cant tell if it is due to factory setting or tune. If no tune then its obvious
It's a dodge, probably both. But the tune voided the warranty.
this takes breaking a car in to a new level! LOL
I've got a 2022 Charger SXT with V6. I want to do some upgrades to boost the power, but I'm gonna wait till warranty runs out so there's no warranty issues.
Good report Mr. X.
My dealership warned me point blank about any aftermarket modification on my new Challenger Scat. I know the service manager and he said he did not want me to take the risk. (Including exhaust)
If you car blows up because an exhaust mod, it was already a shitty car to begin with
lmaoooo scat owners are pathetic mf know nothing bout cars and just buy em for hype. ur car wont fuck up from doing exhaust work
@mt82_brando 1. That's not what happened in this incident. 2. That's not the point of my comment. A car warranty is a contract in which they dictate the rules. Don't like the game...Don't play it.
He’s playing you because you a muffler delete has nothing to do with the engine. He had a bad tune.
Anything can happen with engines like these. At these power levels, and precise engineering a tiny glitch at the wrong moment will do it.
But, if that brain has been played with, even if whatever was changed had nothing to with the failure, all bets are off. You might as well use that warranty to light your cigar.
So how re they on tire recalibration on trucks? Gotta use a tuner to change tire size,
Modifying a car that came with 800hp from the factory and risk voiding the warranty is beyond stupid.
New to the channel. Nice neighborhood. HOA?
RacerX. Well it looks like you have drove me back into your channel. Talking about Mopars. I'm still upset you bought the black horse mustang. I have only owned one ford and ford did not care about my family. They keep repairing my truck over and over. I ended up filing under the lemon law and got all my money plus more back. I went and bought a Dodge. Love it.
Racer they tried the same with me on S550 Mustang but I didn't do anything to the car. They tried say I put a tune on it. Also, they looked under rear wheel wells to say I was doing burnouts but the car has line lock so I don't know why they even brought it up. At the end of the day, they did fix my engine but it took three months to do so.
Jeep voided my warranty after engine failure because I had installed a cold air intake and put on a very mild tune for it when it was installed. Obviously a cold air intake + tune would not have blown my engine. Luckily it was at 75k miles but still had 25k left on the powertrain warranty. I had to pay out of pocket to get a new engine (not at the dealership though). I was under the impression a tune would not void the warranty but here we are.
So, he had a 2023 Widebody Redeye (a car I’d have given my left nut to have ordered brand new to my specs by wasn’t able to pay the 50k markup most dealers wanted), 807 horses from the factory, if he had wanted a faster car, the Super Stock would have been the way to go if the Demon 170 was out of his reach, but he went for the Redeye, and now Dodge offers kits that bump horsepower while keeping the factory warranty when installed by an authorized dealer for those that consider that 807Hp isn’t enough (it’s more than enough for the factory P-Zeros), but the owner went his own way, and I think that Dodge is doing the right thing by voiding the warranty.
Im having a horrible time with my 21 Durango RT. A slew of Recalls to add on. So does aftermarket CAI and Full exhaust voids the warranty? no deletes real exhaust Stainless Works.
I love this.... the ECU sees all.... the dealership knows exactly how why where and when!!!! Nobody buys these cars to do anything but abuse....! Some just abuse more than others....! Just ask any Dealer tech with 20 plus years experience....abuse abuse abuse... and all customers lie....!! All customers.... all customers!!!
I have a 2018 ZL1/1LE with a month and half left on the powertrain, one of my 02 sensors just flashed a code, My battery is weak also, I'm putting a new battery on tomorrow, but I'm riding the warranty till its all over, then a cam, etc. One thing I would check, he might have 2 valve's spring broken that's not closings and not building pressure.
When i tuned my Focus ST, I used the Ford performance procal and kept my factory warranty. I also got way better MPG weirdly.
2013 RT at around 8K the transmission was causing a surging feeling and tach jumping like it was trying to find gears. Just driving in the streets. Dealership updated software and said I put cheap gas in which wasn’t true. Three times in they diagnosed the transmission body valve. Under warranty it took over two month and returned it to me covered in bird poop and a gouge in the paint on the front end but denied it. One month later I traded it in for a 4Runner and never looked back. I get calls to come buy another Dodge. I said you mean come to your lemonade stand?
When that happens, does the check engine show up? Or does it slip through the cracks ?
This is why Dodge recommends Dodge Power Brokers, they are factory performance upgrades done at specific Dodge dealers without having to being denied warranty claims. These can be found on Dodge website directly.
If youre going to tune, make sure you buy a 2nd PCM to put the tune on, because PCMs log how many times they were tuned.
But then when switching back to the factory ecm it wont match the mileage of the vehicle. No way around it except not doing it
@@quicksilver8180 Oh yes, But luckily you can write the mileage with a capable scan tool and its not logged in the PCM when doing so. The VIN is logged by displaying the original VIN, but this is not the case with odometer. If you can afford to modify your vehicle, you should afford to buy a capable bi directional scan tool.
Racer X who did you have tune your hellcat?
Doesnt dodge allow tuners that are warrantied? Thought ive seen something about it around a year ago
tune equals voided powertrain warranty. old news. OEMs caught onto this a long time ago. tuning is an art form. all the best parts mean nothing with a hack tune. this is why my zl1 is still stock 3 years later. i dont feel like paying for a trans or motor. heres some advice. dont modify your daily driver or a vehicle you cant afford to repair lol.
He made a mistake before I tuned my car I bought a sperate PCM from fast hemis for 600$ basically I had a FBO tuned 392 still covered warranty whenever I needed work I would intune the car and throw the stock pcm in
2016 Challenger Hellcat
Less than 1k miles check engine light illuminated. The control for air fuel mixter. Too much petro into cylinder 8. Washed lubricant out of cylinder. Scared cylinder wall. Engine replaced @1,200 miles. Car at dealship for 37 days. Near the end of the process. I talked to some manager assistant manager at the dealership. If you'll give me something similar to drive. You can keep the car long as you need to. At that moment I was driving a Nissan pickup truck from Enterprise.
My local Ford dealer is awesome.
They basically expect every Mustang and F150 to be modified and are real good about it. Their own words.
Ive had every one of my F150 lifted and tuned from Day 1 and on one them when the truck was completely covered in mud and the transmission blew up....zero questioned asked. New transmission under warranty. Lol
Lots of tunes do not leave a marker in the PCM when tuned so when it goes back to stock you cant tell.
My 21 trx with 16k fully modded. No issues for 8k with the setup. Had a major misfire and found driver side cat came apart and plugged exhaust. Dodge replaced the cat under warranty but it toasted the motor and they are refusing to warranty the motor. Claims there is no way the exhaust being plugged will cause cylinder failure.
Feels bad man
Could it be that he used an aftermarket tuner to chech dtcs after removing the mid mufflers? if so the aftermarket tuner would have unlocked the ecm even if no tuning adjustments were made thus sending the p1400 code to the bcm indicatting tampering. Even though removing the mid mufflers does not affect the emissions all 50 states have laws against their removal.
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