2:15 - The Eamonn Andrews Show was a staple for Sunday nights on ITV from 1964 until 1969. It was always the last main programme to air on a Sunday night, usually around 11.05pm-11.50pm. It was not live, but recorded in the early evening. Used to be a great tonic for people dreading Monday morning.
I know it's a well known tidbit, but I'm still amazed that John Lahr's father was the actor Bert Lahr who played the fabulously cowardly lion in The Wizard Of Oz.
The problem with the first run of Loot was its failure to meet with the same level of audience approval as Sloane. So between the producers and director, Joe was pressured to rewrite and rewrite almost constantly. This meant that Kenneth Williams and the rest of the cast were rehearsing new material and taking it straight up to performance every night. It was only when the disastrous first run ended that Joe had the time to repair it. And the second attempt, re-cast with Michael Bates as Truscott, was a massive success.
I don't think so, if that had been the case I think he would had professed his love for him in his diaries. I think he was in awe of Orton's free spirited nature and unashamed homosexuality, and was very fond of Orton as a friend, but when Orton was murdered, Ken's diary entry was scant and removed of emotion. Williams had a long term companion who he had an intimate physical relationship with, albeit briefly, and a life long correspondence.
It's strange, isn't it? When murder is involved, victims "light up the room" if they're women and have "pin-up" or "Hollywood leading man" good looks. Perpetrators are cast at the other end of the spectrum. Now, I can understand why Joe's contemporaries viewed and remember Kenneth as ugly, because his overall personality was so unattractive, made all the more so by contrast to Joe's impish effervescence.
Orton always puts me in mind of a teenager who needs to grow up. trying to shock and be constantly subversive is more along the lines of a "wacky" adolescent as opposed to a fully grown man..
@ Leighton Young Yes, I agree. And I see those clones of Orton don't like your saying so. Adolescents, or those of a similar spirit, tend to bawl abuse.
Joe Orton's first two full length plays were produced while homosexuality was still a crime in Britain. To sit at a 50 year remove and call Orton an adolescent is fatuous and facile.
2:15 - The Eamonn Andrews Show was a staple for Sunday nights on ITV from 1964 until 1969. It was always the last main programme to air on a Sunday night, usually around 11.05pm-11.50pm. It was not live, but recorded in the early evening. Used to be a great tonic for people dreading Monday morning.
0:50 Bloody hell, John Lahr's hands are *massive*! (Great clip, thanks, lovely to see Joe being interviewed)
I think it's the camera angle. :)
I know it's a well known tidbit, but I'm still amazed that John Lahr's father was the actor Bert Lahr who played the fabulously cowardly lion in The Wizard Of Oz.
I'm amazed that I can never see John Lahr here without thinking how much he's like the dwarfish impersonation by Wallace Shawn in the film.
@@margotvsburns6854 Very much so.
The problem with the first run of Loot was its failure to meet with the same level of audience approval as Sloane. So between the producers and director, Joe was pressured to rewrite and rewrite almost constantly. This meant that Kenneth Williams and the rest of the cast were rehearsing new material and taking it straight up to performance every night. It was only when the disastrous first run ended that Joe had the time to repair it. And the second attempt, re-cast with Michael Bates as Truscott, was a massive success.
Creepy and dark aka Haliwell
Being openly queer in 1964 was an act of bravery - don't knock it
'Queer' is an derogatory term, any fruits reading that would be very offended.
I think Williams was secretly in love with Joe.
Quite possibly, whilst Orton was in awe of KW.
I don't think so, if that had been the case I think he would had professed his love for him in his diaries. I think he was in awe of Orton's free spirited nature and unashamed homosexuality, and was very fond of Orton as a friend, but when Orton was murdered, Ken's diary entry was scant and removed of emotion. Williams had a long term companion who he had an intimate physical relationship with, albeit briefly, and a life long correspondence.
@@AnthonyMonaghan yes Paul Florence was probably the closest Kenneth came to the love of his life
We've always known we live in a "fuck you" society but Orton and to a lesser extent Williams were prepared to acknowledge it :-)
They keep saying in other vids that Halliwall was ugly but I don't think he was ugly.
It's strange, isn't it? When murder is involved, victims "light up the room" if they're women and have "pin-up" or "Hollywood leading man" good looks. Perpetrators are cast at the other end of the spectrum.
Now, I can understand why Joe's contemporaries viewed and remember Kenneth as ugly, because his overall personality was so unattractive, made all the more so by contrast to Joe's impish effervescence.
I don't either
He certainly wasn't attractive
where is this from? we need more.
Reputations documentary about Kenneth Williams.
If Kenneth Williams was more at ease with his sexuality he probably still would be alive. He provided a lot of good entertainments using my childhood.
you could see why Kenny was so attracted to Joe, because Joe was what Kenny would have loved to been
Though I feel Joe would of approved somehow of the "one" miserable shit.. Standing out form the rest, lol
Orton had taken barbiturates shortly before the Eamon Andrews interview, which explains his odd behaviour.
I don't blame Orton was doing it, Eamonn Andrews could be one of the most tedious interviewers.
He seems perfectly ok to me .
Ken Williams later in life he had piles
Rockfords?
'Reject all the values of society'.. except success , money and aceptance by showbiz eh?
Orton always puts me in mind of a teenager who needs to grow up. trying to shock and be constantly subversive is more along the lines of a "wacky" adolescent as opposed to a fully grown man..
ARSE!
@ Leighton Young Yes, I agree. And I see those clones of Orton don't like your saying so. Adolescents, or those of a similar spirit, tend to bawl abuse.
Joe Orton's first two full length plays were produced while homosexuality was still a crime in Britain. To sit at a 50 year remove and call Orton an adolescent is fatuous and facile.