A few video amendments: - Sorry if I sound like a jerk, I am genuinely happy the max_fps command works now. To clarify it used to work but reset on map transition so effectively it worked before but was too cumbersome to use. - 2x8GB is just a way to signify the ram is in duel-channel mode. Two times eight is 16GB total, for clarification. - Yes, I know my ram is slow, I bought cheap ram that probably can't go faster than DDR4's base-specification. - Yes, I know my computer is under-powered. If anyone knows where I can get the best CPU for my socket, an i7-9700K for cheap that would be great. - It wasn't specified but L4D2's installed on an SSD. I don't know the drive's specifications. - It wasn't some sort of accidental slip-up that you can see my installed games on Steam. Feel free to talk about the games I have installed if you like. - I too like the idea that data travelling from the game to the computer is represented by sprites from the After Dark's flying toaster screensaver. I was going to put the text 'your computer lol' near the picture of the tapped-together computer. Lol. - Looking back now I think I said 'the performance was too similar to call' too prematurely. The demo comparison clearly shows a higher fps in Vulkan. Sorry, it was hard to notice a difference in real life. I only have a 60fps monitor so an improvement of 20 fps when you have 190 fps is hard to notice. - Looking back, my gripes with Vulkan can probably be alleviated by running the game in borderless windowed mode. (Alt-tabbing and volume overlay). I'd lose brightness control if I did this however, something more important to me. - The flamingo is photogenic. Should have used it for the intro too. - I found out after making the video: the reason Vulkan runs poorly the first time is that shaders are being cached in the background. - Since making this video I hard-crashed once with Vulkan, something that's never happened to me with Direct X. It's unfortunate because it could have just been a random occurrence, but paints the API as less stabled in this game. Stuff like this only comes to light after a lot of testing time. Something that I don't have as the video has to get out published eventually. It happened after I finished the video so it's not included. It could be that I crash more in Vulkan or it was just RNG that I crashed. I'd have to test the game more. For now, I'm just putting it out there. I'll be playing more with Vulkan and if I don't crash anymore I'll be delighted to say it was just bad luck.
hey man. i play l4d2 in linux, and i use vulkan api. as far as i know, its not pure vulkan. it actually dxvk. dxvk is a converting layer from directx to vulkan. it act as extra layer and it not really have big different in performance. the reason why they do this is because 1) people use directx and *arch linux pride hipster* (sorry) hate that since it only available on windows 2) opengl is not too powerful and not as low level as directx vulkan is more optimised in amd card compare to nvidia github.com/doitsujin/dxvk dxvk github www.winehq.org/ wine in linux is know as compatibility layer so they can use windows only software on linux, and no. wine is not an emulator ;) sorry im bad in english. i mean its internet after all
Lfd2 in hd3000, 6cheap ram, i3-2170, runs ok :like: Also, after this update, i heard some people talking about the posibility of improving lfd2 to Source2, i hope this wont be a thing bc i bet like at least 35% of Valve-games players have potato pc/lap
i mean back then when it released fov sliders in games were not normal and when it was normal in games the game stopped receiving updates which was until the last stand update so i can see why it took them so long.
Really depends, my ishy ahh rx550 performs better on windows on dx9, tried vulkan on both win and Linux, opengl on Linux too and nope, got the best perf in windows dx9
the reason vulkan run bad at first time is cause it have to build caches of stuff, while direct x don't have to do that, but the upside is that vulkan get a huge performance buff and even without the caches it is much more optmized than direct x.... it can use better you hardware without much overhead
You sure? I have the same problem using DirectX when I play tf2, it stutters every time a "new" thing has to show/play, after everything has been loaded at least once, the game runs fine
@@helmetluigi this is because team fortress 2 run on a older source engine version that did not precache stuff so much.... its the same reason garrys mod stutters when new things have to load... its due to the source engine.... left 4 dead 2, portal 2, all use a new version of the engine that tend to not have this issue much... any new game at the l4d2/portal 2 era and after don't have this issue anymore.. however vulkan have to preache the shaders, no matter the engine it runs thats why even steam try to download the caches of other users for vulkan games to avoid the stutters....
Sadly it's just a wrapper on top of DirectX 9, called DXVK. A real Vulkan renderer from scratch would be better, but take a lot more time to do. We all know Valve time is a thing...
apparently valve time is either done for or paused, i can't remember who said it but it was mentioned that for Alyx they had to switch over to the traditional project with deadlines style we know.
I knowq i am like almost a year late to this video. But here is a thing about vulkan that is not really touched in that video. - Vulkan is pushed more and more by Valve not only because it is lighter than DirectX, but also because it is univeral - any game that native runs on Vulkan, can work on ANY operating system - Windows, Linux, Mac - you get all of em. - Since Valve is pushing more and more into a linux gaming, and steamdeck - they want all of their games to run native on Linux without any issues - for example, before Vulkan update for L4D2, it was always running DirectX on windows, but OpenGL on Linux - same with other orange box games or even csgo (yes, it has a EXPERIMENTAL Vulkan option right now, but at this point it is only avialable if you play on linux, but it gives around a 15% performance boost on my rig) - Proton (Valve's Implementation into a Linux version of Steam) is literaly a additional (call it) "Translation layer" that reads any only DX games and reads them into Vulkan, in real time - thats how you are able to play games on steam that are only running on DirectX. A amazing - non Valve related - game example of Vulkan difference, is Doom 2016 (not Eternal but will explain why). Doom 2016 original runs on DirectX and Vulkan (i think there is also OpenGL option but do not remember that exacly) - you just change your API in the settings and thats it. ID Software - just as Valve - care more about opensource programs and overall access for the user, thats why they wanted to give people a option to try if there are any differences in game if you run different API. And most of the time, people were running this game in Vulkan. Not only the performance was better on even weaker hardware, you also had literaly no lose in the overall game quality. Vulkan went so good that in their Sequel - Doom Eternal - they literaly ditched all other API and just decided to go with nothing but Vulkan. And look what it gave - you can run Doom Eternal even on cards from 2015, without any issue, and not being forced to play on minimal settings. Vulkan is literaly "the guy she told you not to worry about" when you compare it to DirectX
Hi, thanks for you explanation but the only issue with vulkan is the support, because lot of the gpu's are not suppported by vulkan only the '"gamer" specific ones. for example the NVIDIA GeForce 610M does not support vulkan, but id does support DirectX even up to 12 which makes me question why is vulkan unsupported (my knowledge about computers are not great, just the bare minimum so i am not saying that vulkan is bad, i'm just curious. i want to use linux in the future but i don't want to buy a specific setup just to use it.)
There should be a vulkan alternative for low end hardware as well (like DirectX 9, and OpenGL is slower so...) i think, but this sounds like impossible to make or i don't know.
I've heard that average FPS in vulkan seems to be a bit higher, but it performs worse in resource-intensive scenarios, for example during a horde and a lot of graphical effects. basically you should choose the API depending on your issues with the game, it will have different results depending on the hardware u use it was mostly released for the sake of Linux users, given the game's age, the perfromance difference will be miniscule even on pretty old hardware. L4D2 is just so easy to run on most hardware
the reason for the stuttering on the first time playing is it generating a cache. it happens every time a new thing gets loaded/rendered and gets cached for later faster loading. im pretty sure it'll reset when updating graphics drivers so you'll get the stuttering again after that, but smooth gameplay once its generated everything.
Indeed. If they want good performance on Linux, they need to run as many games as possible on Vulkan since OpenGL performance is quite poor compared to DirectX.
@@timpedra they probably want to refocus on Steam OS and Steam Machines. Vulkan is what pushing Linux gaming to the realm of possibility. This could be the testing ground for future games on their own machines.
It does run alot better, But the only downer is that you cannot run in fullscreen, For me it goes nuts, But all other options you can tinker with, And there is a little screen tearing with or without v-sync, I use x2 buffering, But also if you type " fps_max 0 " in the console, It will unluck the framerate output your pc can give out, For me it was 500, Varying. The game felt slow somehow despite the high framerate in dx9 on my 4070 gtx, So glad i watched this video, Great stuff ! 😉 Not sure how fullscreen not working for me though !
The first launch being stuttery when running the Vulkan version is pretty normal for most games. The game needs to build a cache in order for it to run properly, which is why it only stutters on your first run.
@David TPHK yeah that's what i thought but still it's literally a brightness option so it should brighten your game but other than that i have no other problem with the update
no way... I can actually play the game with fps higher than 20? edit: for clarification, it's actually slightly more than that. (20 if things get really bad, sometimes slightly lower than that, 30 fps if the area has low amounts of props\geometry and possibly 40+ if the director is off.) it depends if there are infected on the screen and if the ragdolls are totally, 100% disabled and removed instantly on death. depending on the places i move to, frames can make a big drop (great example would be in c5m1_waterfront_sndscape), or have a slight increase when looking at different areas of the map.
Well thats a thing about vulkan, im not sure if its a built in requirement, but LOTS of things that run vulkan stutter the first time you run the game. And what that IS is shader compilation and caching, same thing happens with the steam deck as a rule, every first time playing a game it has to recompile the shaders from windows to linux and such.
I've been using vulkan for a couple days, and it increased my fps, but i've been getting some stutering, not as much as the first time i tried it, but still
Well..I still get severe stutters when using vulkan on my Windows 10 installation. If I use any linux distro for that matter..the stuttering it's just not there. WHY THO? Why with vulkan it runs like crap on windows, but on linux everything is all right? I don't get that..
I'd like to point out that I do not believe that the stuttering was an "issue" it simply happens whenever a source game is launched for the first time or the first time after a long while of not being played. Its stutters because the source engine is re caching all of its assets to ensure smooth gameplay next time. This is definitely bound to happen after an API change. Thanks for coming to my ted talk
It's a shame they just used the DXVK implementation as opposed to a full conversion to Vulkan, though to be fair that would likely take a massive rewrite of their rendering system. The hitching is definitely down to Vulkan processing the DirectX shaders, usually on linux it will take some time before it starts the game to process these shaders beforehand which usually comes up as a "processing shaders" box on startup, I'd recommend not skipping this as it'll make the game run much smoother.
I love the bug fixes and engine quality of life improvements that TLS update team has been doing, but most of the content added is mediocre. The survival maps were pretty much all they were supposed to do, but the rest was after Valve allowed them to work on more, yet they didn't have enough time. This is very evident with the poorly made TLS campaign, which I think shouldn't have been added due to this lack of time. The survival map would have been fine. Also a small gripe I have with it is the changes to how survival works, causing old records to be pretty much impossible now.
Aside from the vulkan update as anyone else survivors not move their eyes? I only have one entire mod and that is mario for ellis he could move his eyes but coach nick and rochelle dont move their eyes towards me anymore so as mario's
I was wondering could you possibly help me ever since the steam update my computer doesn’t let me play with ppl online is that something i can fix or maybe my computer is just ass? Lol
That shouldn’t be a hardware related issue. I’d try reinstalling Steam if it’s doing it for all games. If it’s just for L4D2, then like the other comments said I’d verify integrity first. If none of the above works then I’d suggest taking a look into some troubleshooting towards the internet side of the fence. Instabilities in your connection perhaps?
Unfortunately, the new update keeps crashing my game. I have already verified integrity of files Updated every driver Removed all custom mods Reinstalled the game 4 times 🙂
I cannot stand playing games on anything below 110° this feels like zooming. Imagine if irl you wouldn't have almost 180° vision (yes, it's blurry on the sides)
i dont understand the launch options, whenever i boot up l4d2 it sometimes says that i have -insecure as my launch option despite me not putting anything into it
I get all my wallpapers from interfacelift.com It's a great site but strangely hasn't been updated in years. If you want that specific wallpaper I'll upload it, here: i.imgur.com/VSsXGwn.jpg
The command is fov_desired, if you wish to do it that way. I'm so happy they unlocked this cvar. Now we don't need that silly plugin that unlocks cl_fov for -insecure mode.
If it would look different, that would be a bug. APIs are a communication layer so to say, if API changed the way a game looks, then it means the communication is wrong.
@@RawbLV not necessarily. Because they are so different, things would look slightly different. It might be because of DXVK and not a true Vulkan renderer.
@@Wheagg Games issue commands telling how the output should look; APIs must deliver the same result or else they're useless. This is how rendering looks, and it should be no surprise that games running DirectX, OpenGL and Vulkan look all the same.
@@RawbLV Have you not seen how different HL2 is in DX6? It's a completely different look without all the effects, but it's still accurate. Is DX9 "wrong"?
Performance for me is basically irrelevant since I run the game capped at 162fps anyways, but Vulkan may have been causing my crashing at the end of certain chapters. Not sure though because I just swapped around a lot of mods. Yep after playing a couple campaigns I haven't had a single crash at the end of any chapters since disabling Vulkan. It's definitely causing them.
Another caveat: You cannot run the game in exclusive fullscreen. If you attempt to do so the viewport will go completely bonkers (the game itself still running fine in the background).
Yeah ever since The Last Stand update, L4D2s has been updated like crazy (relatively) Before, only rare bug fixes every like 6 months or so - TF2 does not know that kind of update dearth
primarily macos/linux, vulkan performs better than openGL does by a large margin, though apparently most people are saying this is a vulkan on top of dx9 wrapper instead of a true vulkan implementation. it would've been better to see how l4d2 on vulkan compares to l4d2 on openGL on a mac/linux machine
some people said vulkan given more consisten framerate i don’t see any reason to hate more options like this, as you can still using old directx anyway
Valve:Game that has a moderate community, lets do 2 big updates! Valve:TF2, massive community and support, Hmm these files need to be localized.... (Im happy that valve is caring for l4d2 but its odd how they nearly ignore their other titles)
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A few video amendments:
- Sorry if I sound like a jerk, I am genuinely happy the max_fps command works now. To clarify it used to work but reset on map transition so effectively it worked before but was too cumbersome to use.
- 2x8GB is just a way to signify the ram is in duel-channel mode. Two times eight is 16GB total, for clarification.
- Yes, I know my ram is slow, I bought cheap ram that probably can't go faster than DDR4's base-specification.
- Yes, I know my computer is under-powered. If anyone knows where I can get the best CPU for my socket, an i7-9700K for cheap that would be great.
- It wasn't specified but L4D2's installed on an SSD. I don't know the drive's specifications.
- It wasn't some sort of accidental slip-up that you can see my installed games on Steam. Feel free to talk about the games I have installed if you like.
- I too like the idea that data travelling from the game to the computer is represented by sprites from the After Dark's flying toaster screensaver. I was going to put the text 'your computer lol' near the picture of the tapped-together computer. Lol.
- Looking back now I think I said 'the performance was too similar to call' too prematurely. The demo comparison clearly shows a higher fps in Vulkan. Sorry, it was hard to notice a difference in real life. I only have a 60fps monitor so an improvement of 20 fps when you have 190 fps is hard to notice.
- Looking back, my gripes with Vulkan can probably be alleviated by running the game in borderless windowed mode. (Alt-tabbing and volume overlay). I'd lose brightness control if I did this however, something more important to me.
- The flamingo is photogenic. Should have used it for the intro too.
- I found out after making the video: the reason Vulkan runs poorly the first time is that shaders are being cached in the background.
- Since making this video I hard-crashed once with Vulkan, something that's never happened to me with Direct X. It's unfortunate because it could have just been a random occurrence, but paints the API as less stabled in this game. Stuff like this only comes to light after a lot of testing time. Something that I don't have as the video has to get out published eventually. It happened after I finished the video so it's not included. It could be that I crash more in Vulkan or it was just RNG that I crashed. I'd have to test the game more. For now, I'm just putting it out there. I'll be playing more with Vulkan and if I don't crash anymore I'll be delighted to say it was just bad luck.
hey man. i play l4d2 in linux, and i use vulkan api. as far as i know, its not pure vulkan. it actually dxvk. dxvk is a converting layer from directx to vulkan. it act as extra layer and it not really have big different in performance. the reason why they do this is because 1) people use directx and *arch linux pride hipster* (sorry) hate that since it only available on windows 2) opengl is not too powerful and not as low level as directx
vulkan is more optimised in amd card compare to nvidia
github.com/doitsujin/dxvk dxvk github
www.winehq.org/ wine in linux is know as compatibility layer so they can use windows only software on linux, and no. wine is not an emulator ;)
sorry im bad in english. i mean its internet after all
Lfd2 in hd3000, 6cheap ram, i3-2170, runs ok :like:
Also, after this update, i heard some people talking about the posibility of improving lfd2 to Source2, i hope this wont be a thing bc i bet like at least 35% of Valve-games players have potato pc/lap
about the ram speed, i dont see how faster ram can affect performance, i have 2400mhz ram but it runs on 1200mhz
The socket is dead , best cpu you can get is a 6700k or 7700k, i would just upgrade to Ryzen instead.
@@purpasmart_4831 i had a 7700k and upgraded to a ryzen 5800x.
Intel platforms are a no go in terms of upgradability
"Imagine if tf2 got the love l4d2 gets"
It happened with the Invasion update
after that the future of community updates were no more for tf2
I think it was because people complained about it or something.
@@Ro_Ziian No the invasion team were idiots, a lot of in-fighting, mostly about pay amount.
Just lazy Valve.
Game fix < Lazy Money (That is how Valve works)
@@umanoomgombi3842 Ah right, that was it. Fighting over money. Classic.
Valve: L4D2? Never heard of it.
Vulkan = Shiny Tank
*Metallized Tank Theme Plays*
Metallic Mario X Tank Theme
would be awesome
holy crap if I knew how to make music I would do that
@@asie I kinda did it
www.reddit.com/r/l4d2/comments/o65da8/metallic_tank/
@@problemtf2532 ayo holy crap that sounds nice together
HOW DID THE TANK GET THE METAL CAP
They added an FOV slider like 12 years after release, lmao.
i mean back then when it released fov sliders in games were not normal and when it was normal in games the game stopped receiving updates which was until the last stand update so i can see why it took them so long.
Bro FOV was not a thing on console a decade and a half ago. No shit theyt just added it
New special tank - he turned into a zombie during a bodybuilding competition and he was covered in posing oil
Tip: If you're playing on Linux, the performance boost will be even greater, since the native port runs on OpenGL.
Really depends, my ishy ahh rx550 performs better on windows on dx9, tried vulkan on both win and Linux, opengl on Linux too and nope, got the best perf in windows dx9
@@handleneeds3charactersormore dang, was about to test vulkan on it, guess i'll stick to dx9
Finally person who can speak English rather than I hAtE UpdAte.
@Dam Sen I can understand some people hate, love update but damn.. some people complain over and over again.
Still though, I dislike having the fov added in the game setting
@@ellemenopy3714 cause they don’t feel like a hacker entering command in source code console whatever
@Dam Sen there's a difference between feedback and pointless whining
@Dam Sen tbh the CSS weapons kind of fills the gap on where the fuck the survivors got their poster guns
the reason vulkan run bad at first time is cause it have to build caches of stuff, while direct x don't have to do that, but the upside is that vulkan get a huge performance buff and even without the caches it is much more optmized than direct x.... it can use better you hardware without much overhead
Yeah but sadly it not vulkan its just some direct x shit called DXVK.
You sure? I have the same problem using DirectX when I play tf2, it stutters every time a "new" thing has to show/play, after everything has been loaded at least once, the game runs fine
@@helmetluigi this is because team fortress 2 run on a older source engine version that did not precache stuff so much.... its the same reason garrys mod stutters when new things have to load... its due to the source engine.... left 4 dead 2, portal 2, all use a new version of the engine that tend to not have this issue much... any new game at the l4d2/portal 2 era and after don't have this issue anymore.. however vulkan have to preache the shaders, no matter the engine it runs thats why even steam try to download the caches of other users for vulkan games to avoid the stutters....
@@davidt9002 DXVK is Vulkan. It may be translating from Direct3D but the game is communicating with the graphics card through Vulkan.
Sadly it's just a wrapper on top of DirectX 9, called DXVK. A real Vulkan renderer from scratch would be better, but take a lot more time to do. We all know Valve time is a thing...
Is Portal 2's Vulkan also DXVK?
@@TheMentalgen yes
apparently valve time is either done for or paused, i can't remember who said it but it was mentioned that for Alyx they had to switch over to the traditional project with deadlines style we know.
I knowq i am like almost a year late to this video.
But here is a thing about vulkan that is not really touched in that video.
- Vulkan is pushed more and more by Valve not only because it is lighter than DirectX, but also because it is univeral - any game that native runs on Vulkan, can work on ANY operating system - Windows, Linux, Mac - you get all of em.
- Since Valve is pushing more and more into a linux gaming, and steamdeck - they want all of their games to run native on Linux without any issues - for example, before Vulkan update for L4D2, it was always running DirectX on windows, but OpenGL on Linux - same with other orange box games or even csgo (yes, it has a EXPERIMENTAL Vulkan option right now, but at this point it is only avialable if you play on linux, but it gives around a 15% performance boost on my rig)
- Proton (Valve's Implementation into a Linux version of Steam) is literaly a additional (call it) "Translation layer" that reads any only DX games and reads them into Vulkan, in real time - thats how you are able to play games on steam that are only running on DirectX.
A amazing - non Valve related - game example of Vulkan difference, is Doom 2016 (not Eternal but will explain why).
Doom 2016 original runs on DirectX and Vulkan (i think there is also OpenGL option but do not remember that exacly) - you just change your API in the settings and thats it.
ID Software - just as Valve - care more about opensource programs and overall access for the user, thats why they wanted to give people a option to try if there are any differences in game if you run different API. And most of the time, people were running this game in Vulkan. Not only the performance was better on even weaker hardware, you also had literaly no lose in the overall game quality.
Vulkan went so good that in their Sequel - Doom Eternal - they literaly ditched all other API and just decided to go with nothing but Vulkan. And look what it gave - you can run Doom Eternal even on cards from 2015, without any issue, and not being forced to play on minimal settings.
Vulkan is literaly "the guy she told you not to worry about" when you compare it to DirectX
Hi, thanks for you explanation but the only issue with vulkan is the support, because lot of the gpu's are not suppported by vulkan only the '"gamer" specific ones. for example the NVIDIA GeForce 610M does not support vulkan, but id does support DirectX even up to 12 which makes me question why is vulkan unsupported (my knowledge about computers are not great, just the bare minimum so i am not saying that vulkan is bad, i'm just curious. i want to use linux in the future but i don't want to buy a specific setup just to use it.)
There should be a vulkan alternative for low end hardware as well (like DirectX 9, and OpenGL is slower so...) i think, but this sounds like impossible to make or i don't know.
1:50 that melee on the hunter while it was jumping was awesome
A silver robo tank would be a cool thing to see in game. It would likely show in a testing area or a lab.
That was a great explanation of APIs. I wish I had that simple of an explanation when I first started learning them.
W video thanks for trying out the Vulkan render and giving us your thoughts and views ❤
This is basically just like what happened to Portal 2. It's just a simple conversion, it hasn't been modified enough to utilize Vulkan's advantages.
Stuttering is Vulkan compiling shaders to stuff into the Shader Cache.
I've heard that average FPS in vulkan seems to be a bit higher, but it performs worse in resource-intensive scenarios, for example during a horde and a lot of graphical effects.
basically you should choose the API depending on your issues with the game, it will have different results depending on the hardware u use
it was mostly released for the sake of Linux users, given the game's age, the perfromance difference will be miniscule even on pretty old hardware. L4D2 is just so easy to run on most hardware
the reason for the stuttering on the first time playing is it generating a cache. it happens every time a new thing gets loaded/rendered and gets cached for later faster loading. im pretty sure it'll reset when updating graphics drivers so you'll get the stuttering again after that, but smooth gameplay once its generated everything.
Running on Vulkan allows my GeForce Shadowplay to not output videos as a mess so this was great for me
it would be nice to see a similar comparison between opengl and vulkan
Você por aqui, Professor! :D
@@MulekeTrairao e ae :D
the update explains why my brightness were so annoying ugh i didnt know there was even an update
Now Vulkan API is now avalible with TF2 in a development branch.
Vulkan support? Methinks valve is up to something. Possibly related to the console/mini PC they are allegedly working on.
Indeed. If they want good performance on Linux, they need to run as many games as possible on Vulkan since OpenGL performance is quite poor compared to DirectX.
@@timpedra they probably want to refocus on Steam OS and Steam Machines. Vulkan is what pushing Linux gaming to the realm of possibility. This could be the testing ground for future games on their own machines.
It does run alot better, But the only downer is that you cannot run in fullscreen, For me it goes nuts, But all other options you can tinker with, And there is a little screen tearing with or without v-sync, I use x2 buffering, But also if you type " fps_max 0 " in the console, It will unluck the framerate output your pc can give out, For me it was 500, Varying. The game felt slow somehow despite the high framerate in dx9 on my 4070 gtx, So glad i watched this video, Great stuff ! 😉 Not sure how fullscreen not working for me though !
so that's why steam decided to give me a 7 gb update for the game even though I don't have it installed.
EDIT: thanks for shedding some light on that
It's not actually Vulkan, it's DXVK.
I know what you mean but "translated" Vulkan is still Vulkan even if it's not "native"
I think, main reason for implementing Vulkan API is Steam Deck, which uses Steam OS based on Linux.
The first launch being stuttery when running the Vulkan version is pretty normal for most games. The game needs to build a cache in order for it to run properly, which is why it only stutters on your first run.
still dont understand why the damn brightness slider darkens your game
@David TPHK yeah that's what i thought but still it's literally a brightness option so it should brighten your game but other than that i have no other problem with the update
and most of the source game works like that left is 1.6 and right is 2.6
Doesn't every games brightness slider normally do that?
@@unoriginalperson72 If all the games you played are asian, sure
Hey ppl is cause some filter that modify the darkness in some areas, find tutorial for disabling the filter to get better view in these zones
no way... I can actually play the game with fps higher than 20?
edit: for clarification, it's actually slightly more than that. (20 if things get really bad, sometimes slightly lower than that, 30 fps if the area has low amounts of props\geometry and possibly 40+ if the director is off.)
it depends if there are infected on the screen and if the ragdolls are totally, 100% disabled and removed instantly on death.
depending on the places i move to, frames can make a big drop (great example would be in c5m1_waterfront_sndscape), or have a slight increase when looking at different areas of the map.
yes now you can have 22fps
what "computer" do you own that only runs this game at a comically low framerate
even my 5~ year old laptop with a gt750m and i5-4200m runs better than this what
so you are playing on a toaster?
2gb ram intel hd family graphics
celeron dual-core cpu T3300
Well thats a thing about vulkan, im not sure if its a built in requirement, but LOTS of things that run vulkan stutter the first time you run the game. And what that IS is shader compilation and caching, same thing happens with the steam deck as a rule, every first time playing a game it has to recompile the shaders from windows to linux and such.
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I've been using vulkan for a couple days, and it increased my fps, but i've been getting some stutering, not as much as the first time i tried it, but still
Possible Vram limitations, in my PC vulkan uses at least 3x the Vram directX9 uses. I get a lot of stuttering and i thinks this is the cause.
@@Pertoj well that sucks because I only have 2 gigs of vram
Well..I still get severe stutters when using vulkan on my Windows 10 installation. If I use any linux distro for that matter..the stuttering it's just not there. WHY THO? Why with vulkan it runs like crap on windows, but on linux everything is all right? I don't get that..
I'd like to point out that I do not believe that the stuttering was an "issue" it simply happens whenever a source game is launched for the first time or the first time after a long while of not being played. Its stutters because the source engine is re caching all of its assets to ensure smooth gameplay next time. This is definitely bound to happen after an API change. Thanks for coming to my ted talk
This update has made it that my left4dead2 is now slow even though before it was fine
It's a shame they just used the DXVK implementation as opposed to a full conversion to Vulkan, though to be fair that would likely take a massive rewrite of their rendering system.
The hitching is definitely down to Vulkan processing the DirectX shaders, usually on linux it will take some time before it starts the game to process these shaders beforehand which usually comes up as a "processing shaders" box on startup, I'd recommend not skipping this as it'll make the game run much smoother.
I love the bug fixes and engine quality of life improvements that TLS update team has been doing, but most of the content added is mediocre. The survival maps were pretty much all they were supposed to do, but the rest was after Valve allowed them to work on more, yet they didn't have enough time. This is very evident with the poorly made TLS campaign, which I think shouldn't have been added due to this lack of time. The survival map would have been fine. Also a small gripe I have with it is the changes to how survival works, causing old records to be pretty much impossible now.
So, Vulkan exist just for Pokemon gameplay with Tanks?
And how i do this? cuz when i put the dxvk the game won't launch and if i write -vulkan the game won't launch either
lmao that tank was leaving the gym all sweaty and was like: oh hey sup
Aside from the vulkan update as anyone else survivors not move their eyes? I only have one entire mod and that is mario for ellis he could move his eyes but coach nick and rochelle dont move their eyes towards me anymore so as mario's
Nice shiny tank encounter. How many resets did it take?
They need to fix add ons cloud saving issue. I don't wanna redownloading all of my add ons again because this issue
One more thing, if you run Vulkan API, Discord overlay may not appear at all.
i thought you were talking about m61 vulcan
I was wondering could you possibly help me ever since the steam update my computer doesn’t let me play with ppl online is that something i can fix or maybe my computer is just ass? Lol
Verify the game
verify the files maybe
That shouldn’t be a hardware related issue. I’d try reinstalling Steam if it’s doing it for all games. If it’s just for L4D2, then like the other comments said I’d verify integrity first.
If none of the above works then I’d suggest taking a look into some troubleshooting towards the internet side of the fence. Instabilities in your connection perhaps?
How to fix crashing when i turn on shaders to high
it doesn't let me in when I put vulkan
Unfortunately, the new update keeps crashing my game.
I have already verified integrity of files
Updated every driver
Removed all custom mods
Reinstalled the game 4 times
🙂
make a steam ticket, worst case scenario may have to buy a portable drive and try it on there. could even use a thumbstick lol
@@OutdoorBlues Thanks, gonna do that. I actually installed it on a portable drive. Only this update started to crash a lot. 😔
I HOPE TF2 GETS VULCAN.
I READ SOMEWHERE THAT VALVE IS WORKING ON IT BUT WHO KNOWS IF THE PROJECT IS STILL GOING ON OR CANCELLED.
@@A_G_R sadge
hey dom
*review top rated/famous custom campaigns (Daybreak, Suicide Blitz, Farewell Chenming....etc)*
I was thinking of doing a playthrough of "Time to Die". Perhaps in the future.
@@s4videos you actually noticed this and YT didnt notify me, you sapped my notifs, didnt you
I cannot stand playing games on anything below 110° this feels like zooming.
Imagine if irl you wouldn't have almost 180° vision (yes, it's blurry on the sides)
i dont understand the launch options, whenever i boot up l4d2 it sometimes says that i have -insecure as my launch option despite me not putting anything into it
It's a common issue, you can search for it on the web
check your autoexec.cfg
vulkan puts less stress on CPU but more on GPU.
Hey can you review Raymond's custom mutions
but now the FOV changer reset every time you restart game
and also Vulkan API is suppose to utilize more threads on your CPU ect. Basically make your game run abit more and more multi-threaded
Go to autoexec.txt in ur program files
Type the command “fov_desired” without quotes and u can put any number u like
how do I enable openGl?
still no 64 bit version for mac :(
Hey, everybody
DOMMMMM here
How can I find the wallpaper similar to yours? It is nice
I get all my wallpapers from interfacelift.com It's a great site but strangely hasn't been updated in years. If you want that specific wallpaper I'll upload it, here: i.imgur.com/VSsXGwn.jpg
hey how can i update mine?
Vulkan made my performance fly...
Woah, FOV?? I cant find this. Do I need to update my game manually? Or am I blind and cant find it?
It's in multiplayer settings, not video settings.
The command is fov_desired, if you wish to do it that way. I'm so happy they unlocked this cvar. Now we don't need that silly plugin that unlocks cl_fov for -insecure mode.
Thank you babe newell.
and at the cost i am forced to play with only a medium shader- if i use the game with high or very high it dies-
Does anyone know how to remove Vulcan mode ?
U remove “-Vulcan” on ur launch options
Considering how different Vulkan is, I would think that the game would look different on each, but no...
If it would look different, that would be a bug. APIs are a communication layer so to say, if API changed the way a game looks, then it means the communication is wrong.
@@RawbLV not necessarily. Because they are so different, things would look slightly different. It might be because of DXVK and not a true Vulkan renderer.
@@Wheagg Games issue commands telling how the output should look; APIs must deliver the same result or else they're useless. This is how rendering looks, and it should be no surprise that games running DirectX, OpenGL and Vulkan look all the same.
@@RawbLV Have you not seen how different HL2 is in DX6? It's a completely different look without all the effects, but it's still accurate. Is DX9 "wrong"?
@@Wheagg Because DX6 is ancient and the game was aimed at higher DX level (don't know which exactly, perhaps it was DX9).
Wow, just to think, this was for the steam deck.
how to download?
Vulkan isn't a big deal on windows but it is on linux. Also the studdering happens because it is recompiling shaders.
On my windows 10 installation it doesn't recompile shit :D. The game will stutter everytime when I try vulkan XD. But on linux everything seems fine.
You should've compared it against OpenGL too, that andn Vulkan are the only apis in Linux
HOW DO YOU SOUND SO MUCH LIKE GERMANPETER
this person sounds like the Nardwuar of video games
How do i download it?
Download it.
@@Katana2097 No shit!?
THERES AN FPS SLIDER???????
Field of view slider.
It was added in the following update, is now at they multiplayer settings, which I personally don’t like
Last Stand update and this current update destroyed my friend's server. Not so impressive coming from us.
Performance for me is basically irrelevant since I run the game capped at 162fps anyways, but Vulkan may have been causing my crashing at the end of certain chapters. Not sure though because I just swapped around a lot of mods.
Yep after playing a couple campaigns I haven't had a single crash at the end of any chapters since disabling Vulkan. It's definitely causing them.
I really hate Update, every time Crash Game -_-
Another caveat: You cannot run the game in exclusive fullscreen. If you attempt to do so the viewport will go completely bonkers (the game itself still running fine in the background).
I wish i can play l4d2 with you.
tf2 gets wayyy more love
Yeah ever since The Last Stand update, L4D2s has been updated like crazy (relatively)
Before, only rare bug fixes every like 6 months or so - TF2 does not know that kind of update dearth
Nice
fps max be like BHOPE FOR DAYZ
Niceu
Nice
@@recruit8921 ah a fellow crime man
So...
If it behaves basically the same...
What is the point of it? I seriously don’t get it. Where is the benefit here?
primarily macos/linux, vulkan performs better than openGL does by a large margin, though apparently most people are saying this is a vulkan on top of dx9 wrapper instead of a true vulkan implementation. it would've been better to see how l4d2 on vulkan compares to l4d2 on openGL on a mac/linux machine
vulkan can be a high perfomance boost in more modern gpus
@@winternightst7001 Yeah, but...
Modern gpus wouldnt exactly struggle to run L4D2 in the first place though?
@@flariz4824 yeah idk why they added vulkan, kinda pointless, but its optional so it isnt really a problem
some people said vulkan given more consisten framerate
i don’t see any reason to hate more options like this, as you can still using old directx anyway
man why did they stop updating the stuff on xboxs the last update they did was the cold stream on that's not even canon
*eye roll*
nice
Valve:Game that has a moderate community, lets do 2 big updates!
Valve:TF2, massive community and support, Hmm these files need to be localized....
(Im happy that valve is caring for l4d2 but its odd how they nearly ignore their other titles)
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