I've leveled a pally twice in the past... never thought of stacking into or spirit... though I loved gear that had it along with the other stats I wanted. Last time did ret/prot stacking Stam and strength. Currently doing an stam/int prot pally right now and really enjoying it! Did an elite quest in Redbridge with a healer less group with me tanking and I would just stop to heal myself when I needed it lol! It was great 👍
Do you mind explaining what role in dungeon you fill for the different builds? Could you do a similar break down for end game and assuming you have access to duel spec as well?
Because in the video right before this one I said as much... the 11/0/X build with Stam/Spirt is 100% Legit if not recomended. I just forgot about it. I think in this vid I say as much for 5s... aka I mention is but don't show it then forgot about it. But yeah its really really good... but you try telling Ret Heads to put 11 point in holy that early in the game when they could have command. So by the time they get consecration... they are level what? 48? 50?
@ ah. I beeline to consecration first so I can tank Deadmines/SFK/etc and then work my way down ret. After I got command I doubled back into Prot for the hit. Worked out really nicely for me, as around then I was able to pick up dual spec and have a deep Prot spec for better tanking. Kept a +healing set on me for downranked flash of light spam healing and barely drink in either spec.
Hey Pallytime, would paladin T1 be better than good pre-raid pieces or even pre-raid BIS items for holy or is it better to skip T1 and just go for different healing pieces in suggested in other guides (inlcuding pre-raid pieces). For HC and Era it would be different i think but just would like to hear your opinion
No one is going to give you T1 gear if you don't have most of your pre-raid BiS gear. The TLDR on Paladin Pre-Raid BiS for healers is that it is your BEST HEALING GEAR... tell AQ... So yeah... kinda go get what you can of it. T1 is a PvP Suit
@@luigiistratescu2756 Hahaha... Go Watch Drakova "Rulcar vs" Videos where he is using T1 set to kill AQ40 and Naxx geared players. T1 is basically T3 early in the game. It has 2 things that make it AMAZING for endurance fighting. 1. It can be made into 5100+ HP Suit with a few off bits from MC. 5100 HP is the lowerest HP you can PvP in vs Naxxed gear enemies as long as you ahve hight Fire Resist... which the suit is caked in. For phase 1... rank 10's 4400 is MORE then enough HP... so 5100 is just bonkers that early in the game. 2. It is absolutely CAKED in Spirt Stat. Which is you know how to use that in PvP makes it broken. I was Full T2... Flurry Axe... Frost Oil... Dragon Breath Chilly and Drakova would beat my but with Ruclar in duels through the spirt regen alone. Remember... paladins do 80% of there DPS Butt Naked with a 2 handed wep. So suits like T1 and T3 are legit DPS suits for endurance playstyle.
@@pallytime2156 The points you're making are weak unless backed by the videos you mentioned. Please attach the link to see it for myself. Else, this is false information. I'm quite open minded and curious. Thanks.
loved hearing you go from um actuallyi am mathematically better because i know more than you to owe i'm missing the parry haste, it must be giving you the equiv of 2.5 swings lmao. this is why you script out something like this ahead of time.
reckoning does NOT give charges if you are auto attacking. it only resets swing timer. zero reason to not auto attack when leveling. resetting a 1.5 weapon speed 1h is nearly useless.
I'm 100% going to play this on hardcore. Love the breath of life you're breathing in my wow experience!
breathing breaths of breathing life into my breath
Trying Stam Int build now and having a ton of fun, thanks dude
I've leveled a pally twice in the past... never thought of stacking into or spirit... though I loved gear that had it along with the other stats I wanted. Last time did ret/prot stacking Stam and strength. Currently doing an stam/int prot pally right now and really enjoying it! Did an elite quest in Redbridge with a healer less group with me tanking and I would just stop to heal myself when I needed it lol! It was great 👍
Do you mind explaining what role in dungeon you fill for the different builds?
Could you do a similar break down for end game and assuming you have access to duel spec as well?
If you have consecration = you can tank
If you have a Mana bar = you can Heal
If you have DPS gear = you can DPS
Love it, levling a pala after mainly horde on new hc server. Paladin was my first char in vanilla.
Watching this while grinding with my stam+spirit sword and board paladin.
Seal of Command Procs and Reck - can you ever get more than 7 procs per minute? If so, what is the maximum number you can get per minute?
How come your ret builds don’t pick up consecrate? I’ve got 11/8/x to get consecrate and precision, then the rest into ret and it pumps in dungeons.
Because in the video right before this one I said as much... the 11/0/X build with Stam/Spirt is 100% Legit if not recomended.
I just forgot about it.
I think in this vid I say as much for 5s... aka I mention is but don't show it then forgot about it.
But yeah its really really good... but you try telling Ret Heads to put 11 point in holy that early in the game when they could have command.
So by the time they get consecration... they are level what? 48? 50?
@ ah. I beeline to consecration first so I can tank Deadmines/SFK/etc and then work my way down ret. After I got command I doubled back into Prot for the hit. Worked out really nicely for me, as around then I was able to pick up dual spec and have a deep Prot spec for better tanking.
Kept a +healing set on me for downranked flash of light spam healing and barely drink in either spec.
@@gcstroud can you please link your build?
@@Sage2000 In holy grab 5/5 strength, 5/5 intellect, 1/1 consecrate. Then go down ret like you normally would.
@@gcstroud ah, thank you. I was wondering of I should keep the "avoid pushback" talent, dont recall the name now.
Can you comment whether Anticipation is worth spending talent points on?
its garbage stay away from it
Wouldn't getting all 3 (Cons, SoCom, Reck) give you a 5.3 attack increase? So talents would be something like 11/X/11?
11/25/11 is what you are proposing... need 25 points in prot to get reck.
So at that point we are 47/51 talent points and level 56?
If not playing on HC server, would you still take Guardian's Favor before toughness (or at all)?
Season to taste
Thanks man
Hey Pallytime, would paladin T1 be better than good pre-raid pieces or even pre-raid BIS items for holy or is it better to skip T1 and just go for different healing pieces in suggested in other guides (inlcuding pre-raid pieces). For HC and Era it would be different i think but just would like to hear your opinion
No one is going to give you T1 gear if you don't have most of your pre-raid BiS gear.
The TLDR on Paladin Pre-Raid BiS for healers is that it is your BEST HEALING GEAR... tell AQ... So yeah... kinda go get what you can of it.
T1 is a PvP Suit
@@pallytime2156 lol? T1 is a healer set. It's good for PvE. T2 and T2.5 is for PvP... Like... isn't it obvious
@@luigiistratescu2756 Hahaha... Go Watch Drakova "Rulcar vs" Videos where he is using T1 set to kill AQ40 and Naxx geared players.
T1 is basically T3 early in the game.
It has 2 things that make it AMAZING for endurance fighting.
1. It can be made into 5100+ HP Suit with a few off bits from MC. 5100 HP is the lowerest HP you can PvP in vs Naxxed gear enemies as long as you ahve hight Fire Resist... which the suit is caked in.
For phase 1... rank 10's 4400 is MORE then enough HP... so 5100 is just bonkers that early in the game.
2. It is absolutely CAKED in Spirt Stat. Which is you know how to use that in PvP makes it broken.
I was Full T2... Flurry Axe... Frost Oil... Dragon Breath Chilly and Drakova would beat my but with Ruclar in duels through the spirt regen alone.
Remember... paladins do 80% of there DPS Butt Naked with a 2 handed wep. So suits like T1 and T3 are legit DPS suits for endurance playstyle.
@@luigiistratescu2756 Hmm seems like Drakova's Rezeta vids are better... all his alts use T1 basically.
@@pallytime2156 The points you're making are weak unless backed by the videos you mentioned. Please attach the link to see it for myself. Else, this is false information. I'm quite open minded and curious. Thanks.
loved hearing you go from um actuallyi am mathematically better because i know more than you to owe i'm missing the parry haste, it must be giving you the equiv of 2.5 swings lmao. this is why you script out something like this ahead of time.
Why so I don't look stupid? Question: What if I REALLY don't if I look stupid or not? Then what you are saying just = "waist of time"
Do you have a vendetta against tags?
PLS tank talent and Gear at60
Please edit this down
reckoning does NOT give charges if you are auto attacking. it only resets swing timer. zero reason to not auto attack when leveling. resetting a 1.5 weapon speed 1h is nearly useless.
I made a video... its working as normal.