Anyone know or have this snare, its a Used Peace 5X14 Aluminum Snare Drum Drum Chrome 8, seems to be at the big companies for cheap, advertised as aluminum? if it is these two metals, I guess its close to Supraphonic sound.
@@bonzoleum hey thanks Terry, I'm still not sure if their mislabeling some of those steel snares as aluminium. Brass, aluminum, then steel usually in price pyramid..
I watched your tuning video for the supra and I struggled to create a minor third difference between the two heads, they both just sounded the same. Any thoughts?
I'm 32 and dont own any kind of tuning devices. Tuning by ear is definitely more of a chore but you also get to know your drums a lot better that way if that translates. Great vids!
The thickness: an Ambassador will always be thinner than an EMPEROR. The reissue Vintage Ambs are a 7.5 mil and a 3 mil combo. A Vintage Emp is 2 plies of 7.5 mil. The garden variety current Emp is 2 plies 7 mil.
I would crank it up just a little more and loosen the lug closest to your body on the left side. Or perhaps even some moon gel to ease the overtones. I have this method with my Ludwig supraLITE which has more overtones than anything and it sounds pretty damn close to the Bonham sound
I am just speculating here but I always felt the double ply heads like Emperors and Vintage Emperors have a "built in muffling system without having one" kind of thing going on for them, just in the nature of being a double ply drum head. I have a modern LM402 with the rubber gaskets so, I believe, that adds to the muffling as well. I am currently in the process of replacing the stock 2.3mm rims (with the understanding that vintage LM402s have 1.6mm rims) with chrome over brass 2.5mm rims so I surmise that the overall sound will be brighter and lively without the need to alter the drum completely (ie. take off the rubber gaskets, etc etc to diminish overtones and such). Moreover, having a 42 strand snare wire underneath and even the Puresound 30s on a LM402 lends itself to a bit more, to shall we say, "natural muffling".
Leave the gaskets on and install diecast hoops. That’s what I did with my Black Beauty and it’s perfect with a Coated Control Sound or for a bit less ring Coated Emperor. Tama 14RLC snare wires are working great. Best snare wires out there besides the Canopus which are a close second in my experience. Ring comes from head and the location of the bearing edge and how much shell touches the head. Less shell to head contact and further out will give more ring. Ring isn’t influenced by the shell in the lug contact area.
Terry Forget the tunebot settings and give us a 2 hour Bonham tuning video of you and George tuning and getting ultra geeky about Zeppelin, paiste, Ludwig, the meaning of life etc.
I still feel super blue balled about that tuning vid, I beg of ya to give the tunebot one more shot. And please use the filter this time so we can get some accurate readings.
Hard to tell whether ya said "Don't forget about the tunebot settings" Or "we're gonna get the tunebot settings". Just wanted to avoid confusion, in case it turns out I'm bitching about something you've already began to address haha.
No-I will get some proper tunebot settings. George will have his baby all tuned up and I’ll have someone get the proper settings. Hopefully it’ll be helpful!
Glad to see you bought a new cymbal. I was starting to wonder how you were surviving with so little equipment. "Mr. Keating back away from the counter and put the card back in the wallet."
Is this a joke? It looks like the drums are in a garage that is 95 degrees in Chicago packed completely full like a episode of Hoarders. You talk like your on speed most of the video without really talking much about the Snare. I'm not sure what this is.
Don’t be such a ball sac…critical dude…he knows more about LED Zeppelin/Bonham than you! Jealous because you don’t have all these awesome vintage drums. Go troll somewhere else. Terry is a legend in the drum community. He has a huge heart and is a great teacher. Go bully someone else loser
Love your videos. I was wondering if you could ever show the crazy fills Bonzo does towards the end of Kashmir in the knebworth live show
That's a fill George will certainly deal with soon!
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Anyone know or have this snare, its a Used Peace 5X14 Aluminum Snare Drum Drum Chrome 8, seems to be at the big companies for cheap, advertised as aluminum? if it is these two metals, I guess its close to Supraphonic sound.
Hi Josh- aluminum will do it.
@@bonzoleum hey thanks Terry, I'm still not sure if their mislabeling some of those steel snares as aluminium. Brass, aluminum, then steel usually in price pyramid..
@@bonzoleum I might buy this one just to see if its really aluminum, either way its metal, maybe its chrome over alum..heheh....
I watched your tuning video for the supra and I struggled to create a minor third difference between the two heads, they both just sounded the same. Any thoughts?
I'm 32 and dont own any kind of tuning devices. Tuning by ear is definitely more of a chore but you also get to know your drums a lot better that way if that translates. Great vids!
how many drums do you have my friend , awsome snares...
hey terry is that cymbal 18 or 29 inch?
Quick question what’s the difference between a vintage ambassador and a vintage emperor?
The thickness: an Ambassador will always be thinner than an EMPEROR. The reissue Vintage Ambs are a 7.5 mil and a 3 mil combo. A Vintage Emp is 2 plies of 7.5 mil. The garden variety current Emp is 2 plies 7 mil.
What do you think about the ludwig cymbals made by paiste?
Almost all of them were nickelsilver. Not my favorite alloy, but there were some hats I did like!
Does this snare comes with gaskets under the lugs?
Do you mean metal washers, i'm curious now.
@@Catinthehackmatrix rubber washers
@@ghenabarbu7810 ohh, Roger that! The roofing screws with rubber/steel washers come to mind now.
@@Catinthehackmatrix i mean- rubber gaskets between lugs and the drum shell
@@ghenabarbu7810 Can you use the washers that have the rubber on them, just an idea, but their usually sold with roofing screws.
Hey, how much does the 20" S ride weight compared to the 20" crash? You either have good joints are _____ good joints, the way you move 😜😜..
I don't have an S RIDE model unfortunately. I just sold the 20" MEDIUM THIN CRASH. It was 1965 grams ish if I recall..
@@bonzoleum thx, I thought of getting the crash you demonstrated so many time as a crash/ride.
What hats are those? 2002?
Hi Brian-hats are 15” Paiste: Giant Beat TOP on top and a 2002 Sound Edge bottom.
Thanks, Terry! They sound nice via youtube
Bonzo used his Slingerland green sparkle on LZ one he did not use Ludwigs untill he returned from the US tour with Vanilla Fudge .
nice thanks
I would crank it up just a little more and loosen the lug closest to your body on the left side. Or perhaps even some moon gel to ease the overtones.
I have this method with my Ludwig supraLITE which has more overtones than anything and it sounds pretty damn close to the Bonham sound
Nice
I am just speculating here but I always felt the double ply heads like Emperors and Vintage Emperors have a "built in muffling system without having one" kind of thing going on for them, just in the nature of being a double ply drum head. I have a modern LM402 with the rubber gaskets so, I believe, that adds to the muffling as well. I am currently in the process of replacing the stock 2.3mm rims (with the understanding that vintage LM402s have 1.6mm rims) with chrome over brass 2.5mm rims so I surmise that the overall sound will be brighter and lively without the need to alter the drum completely (ie. take off the rubber gaskets, etc etc to diminish overtones and such). Moreover, having a 42 strand snare wire underneath and even the Puresound 30s on a LM402 lends itself to a bit more, to shall we say, "natural muffling".
Did you buy those 2.5mm COB hoops and are you happy with the change in the sound you got with them? Please tell me where did you bought it?
Leave the gaskets on and install diecast hoops. That’s what I did with my Black Beauty and it’s perfect with a Coated Control Sound or for a bit less ring Coated Emperor. Tama 14RLC snare wires are working great. Best snare wires out there besides the Canopus which are a close second in my experience. Ring comes from head and the location of the bearing edge and how much shell touches the head. Less shell to head contact and further out will give more ring. Ring isn’t influenced by the shell in the lug contact area.
Terry Forget the tunebot settings and give us a 2 hour Bonham tuning video of you and George tuning and getting ultra geeky about Zeppelin, paiste, Ludwig, the meaning of life etc.
There'll be more of that.. Thank you SIM!
Coming soon!! 😏
Try an emperor x, it makes your snare sound exactly like the royal albert hall snare sound
sounds great Terry ! what sticks are u using?
Hi Tony- I’ve lately been using Vic Firth KEITH MOON models.
Jeff Ocheltree said he used to use sandpaper to make new heads look used so Bonham wouldn’t get upset that he was changing heads.
Jeff Peff I use that method when I come across backline snares on jazz gigs, with new coated heads because I hate how brushes sound on them.
The snare sounds great, and you have the stick trill down. But your no Ami Kim. ha ha ha.
I still feel super blue balled about that tuning vid, I beg of ya to give the tunebot one more shot. And please use the filter this time so we can get some accurate readings.
Hard to tell whether ya said "Don't forget about the tunebot settings" Or "we're gonna get the tunebot settings". Just wanted to avoid confusion, in case it turns out I'm bitching about something you've already began to address haha.
No-I will get some proper tunebot settings. George will have his baby all tuned up and I’ll have someone get the proper settings. Hopefully it’ll be helpful!
Haha.... talky....thanks man cool vid
Glad to see you bought a new cymbal. I was starting to wonder how you were surviving with so little equipment. "Mr. Keating back away from the counter and put the card back in the wallet."
Put a 42 strand strainer on that baby.
Is this a joke? It looks like the drums are in a garage that is 95 degrees in Chicago packed completely full like a episode of Hoarders. You talk like your on speed most of the video without really talking much about the Snare. I'm not sure what this is.
Don’t be such a ball sac…critical dude…he knows more about LED Zeppelin/Bonham than you! Jealous because you don’t have all these awesome vintage drums. Go troll somewhere else. Terry is a legend in the drum community. He has a huge heart and is a great teacher. Go bully someone else loser
What the F is a ‘Delbert’ anyway? Sounds like you need to take a drumstick and shove it way up your anus ..be careful not to hit your brain