An opportunity to reinforce what Mark says, I got 3rd degree burns with my Kelley kettle because I didn’t follow the safety rules. I lightly rested the plug on the spout and even though I was at a cautious arm’s length from the kettle, when I used a stick to lift the plug it came out like a geyser all over my feet and legs. These stoves are awesome! But need the respect that fire and hot water needs. I love my kettle, lesson learned the hard way.
i do have a kelly kettle! Had it for years and love it. Yeah. it's bulky, but it is something i shove in the car if I'm going out for the day, with a millbank bag, and I've got tea/coffee/dinner/ or even just safe water to drink. I like the whistling lid, but I've never had enough time to walk away and forget about my kelly kettle, so it's a bit obsolete in that way. But i do like the two things about the ghillie kettle that youve pointed out, the weight and the place of manufacture. I am in the uk, and really want to support our manufacturers, so this would be my deciding factor.
The grill on the Kelly Kettle is hinged but it does fold in half and can be used in the same way as the grill on the Ghillie for the hobo stove (full or half grill).. The Kelly Ketle, now, also has a two part stable base which can be used as a base to raise it off the ground or a potrest on top (when turned upside down) and is available as an extra. It is hard to chose between the two kettles. As we carry our KK in the car weight is not an issue for us. The Ghillie has the edge there. Great instruction for those new to these kettles.
These are great. Hot water is life - it purifies water, you can make warm water for washing, hot water to wash clothes, for a hot water bottle, - you get your tea, coffee, noodles, instant soup, mashed potato etc -- it's everything. Butane stoves are bulky and not cost effective to run, I even used a Makita Kettle - but it would use up two whole batteries for barely more than a litre, and making a camp fire just to boil water is too much of a time investment -- these things are what you need! Paper and twigs is all you need - quite amazing.
Thanks Mark for a thorough review. I have the stainless steel Kelly Kettle Trekker. It is a bit heavy for backpacking and a bit large. I prefer lightweight titanium pots when hiking. I keep the Kelly Kettle with my SHTF freeze dried foods at our cabin for "bug in" situations. It is a very efficient kettle for boiling water with just a handful of twigs.
I have the trekker as well. To save weight/space I use it to carry water like a water bottle. Not very big but its does offset the size some. Thanks for commenting
Thanks for the video Mark, i have the KK Trekker and Scout, i dont need this kettle but i ordered it today lol. They're a great little multi functional piece of kit, easy to use and easy to cook full meals with. You're right, you only make that mistake once lol, thankfully i only lost my finger hair haha. This new years day morning im getting ready to go down by the river and brew some coffee with my KK and watch a show. Happy New Year
From what I understand hard anodized aluminum prevents aluminum leeching into water or food. Personally, I would feel safe with kettle portion since I'd only use it for heating water but I would stick with stainless steel cookwear to use with it where salt is involved. I have two different size stainless steel Kelley kettles but I will probably purchase a Ghillie kettle also for the reasons you mentioned.
I have my Ghille kettle explorer since 2018-2019 ? And it always worked perfectly , the not having to carry fuel is what draw me to it . I recently got a Petromax FK2 which is a similar product made in Germany , they did change a few things like the handle which is on the side , no more cooked hands ! They just recently got a canadian distributor ( Distribution Made on fire ) , based in the small town where i live . I will test it in the near future .
My in laws have a kelly kettle and use it often just as you said for a shore lunch or "boil up" they call it in Labrador. It is great for a day out in boat up there for sure. Thanks for having a look at the ghillie Mark. Looks to be a great bit of kit.
I bought my scout Kelly Kettle years ago, and I was curious about differences. I'm not very fond of aluminum for cooking and boiling water, but I really like this wire stand, it looks quite good for stability ! Thank you for this nice comparison !
@@SnowyAspenHills Yes, I heard that, but I feel safer with stainless steel. And my 8 y.o. Kelly is still in a perfect shape, so I don't feel the need to buy another one !
I own the Kelly kettle, scout model in stainless steel. I did research the ghillie kettle at the same time. The Kelly also has options for hard anodized aluminum. Like so many others who have commented, I have a hard time wrapping my head around the whole aluminum being safe, even with a coating. Everyone can make their own choice when it comes to that. So I choose the Kelly because of the stainless and because of the name. The family still stands behind their product. As a side note, Mark, just wanted to let you know that even though the Kelly doesn’t have a bracket to hold the fire bowl off the ground, you can still use the pot stand accessory in the like manner when you use just the fire bowl and hobo stove attachment to cook. That pot stand can be used exactly how you used it over the chimney, or you can put that under the fire bowl on the ground.
Hello from New Mexico. This looks very good for our conifer forest areas as well as our river bosque loaded with cottonwood and Russian olive (unfortunate). Used to ski Owls Head!
my friend introduced me to the ghillie years ago and after some research i decided on the Kelly. mine being steel is much less battered & bruised than his Ghillie
As always, an excellent review. I have the same model of Ghillie Kettle and same accessories. I really like it. I have a "hobo" stove accessory from Kelly Kettle that I purchased for use on my Ghillie Kettle and it fits okay. Ghillie Kettle did not have the Hobo Stove accessory when i originally received mine so I bought the hobo stove accessory from Kelly Kettle.
Hi Lonnie. I have the KK Base Camp and tried the hobo stove piece on the Ghillie. It does work but the fit is not perfect. Would be nice to have the Ghillie one to complete the set. Thanks for commenting
@@MarkYoungBushcraft My KK hobo stove accessory does not fit perfect either but it does still work. Yeah I agree. It would be best to have the one made for it.
I enjoy your videos greatly. You are the only person I know of who can answer this question. Will the Firebox remote gas burner work in a Trangia cook kit?
I've been looking at the Ghillie Maverick kettle on and off for a few years now. Have not bought one yet, simply because of how bulky it is (that center flue design really adds to its dimensions) vs a Trangia cook set, or a pot and wood stove combo. But it is nice to be able to heat up water and cook food at the same time. I think it is best suited for car camping, canoe/kayak camping, winter camping with a sled, or for a base camp. Not really ideal for backpacking or motorcycle camping though
@@MarkYoungBushcraft Ya I looked at the Mkettle too, that would be great if you like dehydrated food, but unfortunately you cant cook on those. I can get pretty close to the same performance with a gasifier and a 600ml pot, and I can also not only cook in that pot, but put the stove in it as well (well with a cover) for a package half the size.
I have a SS Kelly Kettle Trekker & one of the extra cooking kits for it. It works very well but I don’t use it as much as I should! I’ve got to get it out & start using it again.
I've got exactly the same model, and the full set as well. It was my first wood stove and I really enjoyed it, particularly in the Swedish winter months where daylight is short, wood is moist and you don't have much time to prepare a meal and some coffee on a day-hike. Over time, as I wanted to lower weight in my multi-day hiking and camping trips, I got a bunch of other lighter (wood) stoves, and my Kelly Kettle hasn't come with me on a day-hike again that much. A bit unfortunate actually as it's by far the most enjoyable piece of kit I have ever used, and I always appreciated how after boiling water for coffee you get some nice embers to fry some meatballs with. Especially for day-hikes, the bulk and weight really doesn't matter, and the extra convenience is appreciated.
Hi I have he Kelly Kettle. Have you used BBQ charcoal with the Kelly or Ghillie kettles to boil and cook with. Enjoying your videos please keep them coming.
Anodized aluminium is a type of coating on the outside to resist oxidation, might allay the fears for people worrying about using aluminium as a cookware.
I have two models of the Kelly Kettle. I have found that I need to keep the length of the sticks I feed the fire with short. The reason: when you lift the kettle off from a fire made with long sticks, the fire spills out of the fire bowl, or at the least, piles on the shelf that the kettle should rest on.....making it difficult to re set the kettle back on the fire. I would rather that the fire is contained in the fire bowl at all times. Do as you will and live with the consequences. Is the Ghillie kettle also hard anodized on the inside? Thanks for sharing.
I own both so can say the build quality of materials on the ghillie kettle are far superior. The kelly kettles lugs that hold the handle to the kettle itself are wafer thin and bend easy.Chain is nowhere near as solid either. ghillie all day. Do the same job but little details matter
Thanks for sharing again. I have the Kelly Kettle Scout, the same fire bowel as your Kelly Kettle Base Camp. Is the wire support of this Ghillie Kettle compatable with the Kelly Kettle Base Camp fire bowel?
Great thank you very much. I have enquired twice via ebay and not had a definitive answer and that took ages. With in less than a day you have supplied information that could be helpfully to Kelly Kettle Base camp and Kelly Kettle Scout owners. KK pot stand / fire bowel support is a bit high, so your info of Gillie Kettles support being compatable is very helpful. Thank you again. Take care, best regards Colin
I love it. Two questions- 1. why isn’t the handle like something on a Thermos? Would seem so much more practical. 2. will the pot stand sit on the fire base to cook something without the water tank? Thanks
There are other kettles that have side handles. I think it is a combination or tradition, simplicity of manufacture and easy of carry when full of water. Yes, you could use the fire base seperate. It would be better to have the hobo stove accessory. Thanks for commenting
This looks like a good item for sure, but I just have a hard time accepting aluminum into my food prep. I know bare aluminum can leach or impart flavors into foods, especially acidic ones. I also can't quite make myself get past the whole Alzheimers thing. I know its not based on much, but I still choose steel of Titanium when I can just to play it safe. Lastly, and this is admittedly ridiculous, but I know aluminum has a much lower melting point than either steel or titanium, and I have actually melted aluminum in a wood fire before, (Not cookware) so I picture my aluminum cookware turning into slag, lol! I'd love to hear Mark's or others' opinions on this topic, because aluminum is lightweight and tends to be some of the cheapest gear out their. I'd really like to trust it. Does the hard anodizing make up for some of my concerns? I've had no experience with it. My understanding is that it is basically a ceramic layer over the aluminum. Is that accurate?
I also don't care for aluminum cookware, but if I was only making the odd coffee or pot of soup.... and to be honest, most stainless steel that comes out of China is NOT 304 food grade. From what I gather they do not have their own 304 steel production in country, any actual 304 for product manufacturing is imported first- though that would need to be fact checked. I pretty much live outside come Springtime, I cook with wood year round, on top the woodstove in the house for 8 months and outside the rest of the year, I'm always tinkering with making rocket stoves with found objects as a hobby and as paying for gas /propane and butane annoys me when efficient stick burning is, well more efficient! not destroying the earth, as local as it gets, and free... Anyway youre not wrong about melting the gear.. I just melted the bottom out of my little folding portable firebox wood cook stove thingy with twigs and tree bark.... mostly the bark tho bc damn that stuff burns hotter than any of the actual wood it comes from that I know of. Highly undervalued resource is tree bark as byproduct of firewood harvesting and cutting.
I am personally not concerned about cooking in aluminum. The causal relationship with Alzheimer's disease has been disproven. Some aluminum can leach from pots and pans and into food but not enough to create a toxic level. Hard anodizing is a process of causing the aluminum to create its own protective layer. It is many time stronger than steel of the same thickness and resists scratching an to some degree, food sticking to it. Empty aluminum pots and pans are at risk of melting over very high heat. Hard anodizing does reduce the risk some. As long as there is food or water on a pot or pan, it will transfer the heat and prevent melting A Ghillie kettle, aluminum or stainless steel should never be placed empty on a fire as it could cause damage. Hope this helps. Thanks for commenting
FYI Titanium cookware has quite a bit of aluminum in it. Pure titanium is not very conductive at all (17.0 W/m-K, vs 210 W/m-K for aluminum) which makes it very bad for cooking (or trying to weld it) as it wont want to heat up, it wont want to transfer heat to the food, and will take an absurd about of energy and time to get it hot, and will then take ages to cool down. Yet 'titanium' cookware exhibits none of these properties, it heats up fast (a bit too fast for cooking food directly without burning) and also cools down fast. So to achieve this they have to use a highly thermally conductive metal that doesn't cost too much (aluminum) and make an alloy that is mostly aluminum.
An opportunity to reinforce what Mark says, I got 3rd degree burns with my Kelley kettle because I didn’t follow the safety rules.
I lightly rested the plug on the spout and even though I was at a cautious arm’s length from the kettle, when I used a stick to lift the plug it came out like a geyser all over my feet and legs. These stoves are awesome! But need the respect that fire and hot water needs.
I love my kettle, lesson learned the hard way.
Sorry to hear about your injury. This is a mistake you only make once. Thanks for commenting
i do have a kelly kettle! Had it for years and love it. Yeah. it's bulky, but it is something i shove in the car if I'm going out for the day, with a millbank bag, and I've got tea/coffee/dinner/ or even just safe water to drink. I like the whistling lid, but I've never had enough time to walk away and forget about my kelly kettle, so it's a bit obsolete in that way. But i do like the two things about the ghillie kettle that youve pointed out, the weight and the place of manufacture. I am in the uk, and really want to support our manufacturers, so this would be my deciding factor.
I recently received the Petromax version made in Germany. Also a great option. Review coming. Thanks for commenting
The grill on the Kelly Kettle is hinged but it does fold in half and can be used in the same way as the grill on the Ghillie for the hobo stove (full or half grill).. The Kelly Ketle, now, also has a two part stable base which can be used as a base to raise it off the ground or a potrest on top (when turned upside down) and is available as an extra. It is hard to chose between the two kettles. As we carry our KK in the car weight is not an issue for us. The Ghillie has the edge there. Great instruction for those new to these kettles.
Yes, I have both the Kelly Kettle Trekker and Base Camp. I have a review on the Trekker. Thanks for commenting
These are great. Hot water is life - it purifies water, you can make warm water for washing, hot water to wash clothes, for a hot water bottle, - you get your tea, coffee, noodles, instant soup, mashed potato etc -- it's everything. Butane stoves are bulky and not cost effective to run, I even used a Makita Kettle - but it would use up two whole batteries for barely more than a litre, and making a camp fire just to boil water is too much of a time investment -- these things are what you need! Paper and twigs is all you need - quite amazing.
Glad you found the video helpful. Thanks for commenting
Thanks Mark for a thorough review. I have the stainless steel Kelly Kettle Trekker. It is a bit heavy for backpacking and a bit large. I prefer lightweight titanium pots when hiking. I keep the Kelly Kettle with my SHTF freeze dried foods at our cabin for "bug in" situations. It is a very efficient kettle for boiling water with just a handful of twigs.
I have the trekker as well. To save weight/space I use it to carry water like a water bottle. Not very big but its does offset the size some. Thanks for commenting
@@MarkYoungBushcraft using it to carry water to recover some of the weight is genius!
I do that too!
Thanks for the video Mark, i have the KK Trekker and Scout, i dont need this kettle but i ordered it today lol. They're a great little multi functional piece of kit, easy to use and easy to cook full meals with. You're right, you only make that mistake once lol, thankfully i only lost my finger hair haha. This new years day morning im getting ready to go down by the river and brew some coffee with my KK and watch a show. Happy New Year
I hope you enjoy it as much as I do. Happy New Year!
From what I understand hard anodized aluminum prevents aluminum leeching into water or food. Personally, I would feel safe with kettle portion since I'd only use it for heating water but I would stick with stainless steel cookwear to use with it where salt is involved. I have two different size stainless steel Kelley kettles but I will probably purchase a Ghillie kettle also for the reasons you mentioned.
Good point. Thanks for commenting
I have my Ghille kettle explorer since 2018-2019 ? And it always worked perfectly , the not having to carry fuel is what draw me to it . I recently got a Petromax FK2 which is a similar product made in Germany , they did change a few things like the handle which is on the side , no more cooked hands ! They just recently got a canadian distributor ( Distribution Made on fire ) , based in the small town where i live . I will test it in the near future .
I was looking at the Petromax. Did not know they had a Canadian distributer. Thanks for commenting
My in laws have a kelly kettle and use it often just as you said for a shore lunch or "boil up" they call it in Labrador. It is great for a day out in boat up there for sure. Thanks for having a look at the ghillie Mark. Looks to be a great bit of kit.
Hey Steve. These storm kettles are just the thing for a quick boil up for sure. Thanks for commenting
I love it for the miniscule amount of fuel it uses and for the swiftness of the boil. That would be great to have on a fishing trip.
Yes, exactly. Thanks for commenting
I bought my scout Kelly Kettle years ago, and I was curious about differences. I'm not very fond of aluminum for cooking and boiling water, but I really like this wire stand, it looks quite good for stability ! Thank you for this nice comparison !
Most welcome. Thanks for commenting
Anodised aluminium is perfectly safe.
@@SnowyAspenHills Yes, I heard that, but I feel safer with stainless steel. And my 8 y.o. Kelly is still in a perfect shape, so I don't feel the need to buy another one !
I have the ghillie stand and it fits my Kelly perfectly
@@mauricejohnston8454 That's good to know ! Thank you ! I'll purchase one !
I own the Kelly kettle, scout model in stainless steel. I did research the ghillie kettle at the same time. The Kelly also has options for hard anodized aluminum. Like so many others who have commented, I have a hard time wrapping my head around the whole aluminum being safe, even with a coating. Everyone can make their own choice when it comes to that.
So I choose the Kelly because of the stainless and because of the name. The family still stands behind their product.
As a side note, Mark, just wanted to let you know that even though the Kelly doesn’t have a bracket to hold the fire bowl off the ground, you can still use the pot stand accessory in the like manner when you use just the fire bowl and hobo stove attachment to cook. That pot stand can be used exactly how you used it over the chimney, or you can put that under the fire bowl on the ground.
Yes, I have two Kelly Kettles with the new pot stand that doubles as a base. Thanks for commenting
Hello from New Mexico. This looks very good for our conifer forest areas as well as our river bosque loaded with cottonwood and Russian olive (unfortunate). Used to ski Owls Head!
Sounds perfect. Thanks for commenting
Thanks Mark, this video clears up a lot of questions I had. I saw Lone Wolf 902 using this system 😊 sad KK is made overseas 😢 UK is fine.
Unfortunately true. The other alternative is the Petromax version I have reviewed. Made in Germany. Thanks for commenting
my friend introduced me to the ghillie years ago and after some research i decided on the Kelly. mine being steel is much less battered & bruised than his Ghillie
Stainless steel has its benefits; however, hard anodized aluminum resist dents about as well and is lighter. Thanks for commenting
As always, an excellent review. I have the same model of Ghillie Kettle and same accessories. I really like it. I have a "hobo" stove accessory from Kelly Kettle that I purchased for use on my Ghillie Kettle and it fits okay. Ghillie Kettle did not have the Hobo Stove accessory when i originally received mine so I bought the hobo stove accessory from Kelly Kettle.
Hi Lonnie. I have the KK Base Camp and tried the hobo stove piece on the Ghillie. It does work but the fit is not perfect. Would be nice to have the Ghillie one to complete the set. Thanks for commenting
@@MarkYoungBushcraft My KK hobo stove accessory does not fit perfect either but it does still work. Yeah I agree. It would be best to have the one made for it.
I enjoy your videos greatly. You are the only person I know of who can answer this question.
Will the Firebox remote gas burner work in a Trangia cook
kit?
Yes it will. I tried it with and without the diffuser plate. Works great in my Trangia 25 set. Thanks for commenting
I've been looking at the Ghillie Maverick kettle on and off for a few years now. Have not bought one yet, simply because of how bulky it is (that center flue design really adds to its dimensions) vs a Trangia cook set, or a pot and wood stove combo. But it is nice to be able to heat up water and cook food at the same time. I think it is best suited for car camping, canoe/kayak camping, winter camping with a sled, or for a base camp. Not really ideal for backpacking or motorcycle camping though
Storm kettles do have their pros and cons. The MKettle is very small by comparison but also not a lot of capacity. Thanks for commenting
@@MarkYoungBushcraft Ya I looked at the Mkettle too, that would be great if you like dehydrated food, but unfortunately you cant cook on those. I can get pretty close to the same performance with a gasifier and a 600ml pot, and I can also not only cook in that pot, but put the stove in it as well (well with a cover) for a package half the size.
Ive got a guille kettle and have built and alcahol burner for mine and works a treat
I have been planning for some time to make a video about using alcohol with it. What are you using?
I made one out of a round tabacco tin some insolation and mesh on top
Thanks For Your Thoughts & Demo On This Quality Product. Many Thanks Mark ! ATB T God Bless
Most welcome. Thanks for commenting Terry
Probably not gonna buy this or the kelly but would definitely go with the lighter option if I change my mind
Thanks for commenting
I have a SS Kelly Kettle Trekker & one of the extra cooking kits for it. It works very well but I don’t use it as much as I should! I’ve got to get it out & start using it again.
Right on. Thanks for commenting
I've got exactly the same model, and the full set as well. It was my first wood stove and I really enjoyed it, particularly in the Swedish winter months where daylight is short, wood is moist and you don't have much time to prepare a meal and some coffee on a day-hike. Over time, as I wanted to lower weight in my multi-day hiking and camping trips, I got a bunch of other lighter (wood) stoves, and my Kelly Kettle hasn't come with me on a day-hike again that much. A bit unfortunate actually as it's by far the most enjoyable piece of kit I have ever used, and I always appreciated how after boiling water for coffee you get some nice embers to fry some meatballs with. Especially for day-hikes, the bulk and weight really doesn't matter, and the extra convenience is appreciated.
Really good vid, clear, logic, great, thanks
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for commenting
Hi I have he Kelly Kettle.
Have you used BBQ charcoal with the Kelly or Ghillie kettles to boil and cook with.
Enjoying your videos please keep them coming.
Yes and I will be making a video on it at some point. Thanks for commenting
Anodized aluminium is a type of coating on the outside to resist oxidation, might allay the fears for people worrying about using aluminium as a cookware.
I agree but many people are still skeptical. Thanks for commenting
They do make a copper version it's called a thermette made in New Zealand 🎉
I have heard of the Thermite. Was not aware they were still made. Thanks for commenting
Wow what an awesome product thank you for the video! Can’t wait to get one!
It is a really nice item to use. Thanks for commenting
I have two models of the Kelly Kettle. I have found that I need to keep the length of the sticks I feed the fire with short. The reason: when you lift the kettle off from a fire made with long sticks, the fire spills out of the fire bowl, or at the least, piles on the shelf that the kettle should rest on.....making it difficult to re set the kettle back on the fire. I would rather that the fire is contained in the fire bowl at all times. Do as you will and live with the consequences. Is the Ghillie kettle also hard anodized on the inside? Thanks for sharing.
Yes it is. Thanks for commenting
I own both so can say the build quality of materials on the ghillie kettle are far superior. The kelly kettles lugs that hold the handle to the kettle itself are wafer thin and bend easy.Chain is nowhere near as solid either. ghillie all day. Do the same job but little details matter
I agree, just a nicer or well made version. Thanks for commenting
Good information, question, who makes your wool Jac shirt?
It is my Canadian Army wool battle shirt. I found mine in a thrift store but they are still available as surplus. Thanks for commenting
Thanks for sharing again.
I have the Kelly Kettle Scout, the same fire bowel as your Kelly Kettle Base Camp.
Is the wire support of this Ghillie Kettle compatable with the Kelly Kettle Base Camp fire bowel?
Yes, it does. Perfectly. I just tried it. Thanks for commenting
Great thank you very much.
I have enquired twice via ebay and not had a definitive answer and that took ages.
With in less than a day you have supplied information that could be helpfully to Kelly Kettle Base camp and Kelly Kettle Scout owners.
KK pot stand / fire bowel support is a bit high, so your info of Gillie Kettles support being compatable is very helpful.
Thank you again.
Take care, best regards Colin
yes....i have it on my Kelly
Is using the hard, anodized aluminum healthy ?
Yes it is. Thanks for commenting
I love it.
Two questions- 1. why isn’t the handle like something on a Thermos? Would seem so much more practical.
2. will the pot stand sit on the fire base to cook something without the water tank?
Thanks
There are other kettles that have side handles. I think it is a combination or tradition, simplicity of manufacture and easy of carry when full of water. Yes, you could use the fire base seperate. It would be better to have the hobo stove accessory. Thanks for commenting
Good review Mark , thanks for sharing , God bless !
Most welcome. Thanks for commenting
Great video. That thing is sweet. Definitely British made.
Right on. Thanks for commenting
It's made in the Republic, Irish made! :D
This looks like a good item for sure, but I just have a hard time accepting aluminum into my food prep. I know bare aluminum can leach or impart flavors into foods, especially acidic ones. I also can't quite make myself get past the whole Alzheimers thing. I know its not based on much, but I still choose steel of Titanium when I can just to play it safe. Lastly, and this is admittedly ridiculous, but I know aluminum has a much lower melting point than either steel or titanium, and I have actually melted aluminum in a wood fire before, (Not cookware) so I picture my aluminum cookware turning into slag, lol!
I'd love to hear Mark's or others' opinions on this topic, because aluminum is lightweight and tends to be some of the cheapest gear out their. I'd really like to trust it. Does the hard anodizing make up for some of my concerns? I've had no experience with it. My understanding is that it is basically a ceramic layer over the aluminum. Is that accurate?
I also don't care for aluminum cookware, but if I was only making the odd coffee or pot of soup.... and to be honest, most stainless steel that comes out of China is NOT 304 food grade. From what I gather they do not have their own 304 steel production in country, any actual 304 for product manufacturing is imported first- though that would need to be fact checked.
I pretty much live outside come Springtime, I cook with wood year round, on top the woodstove in the house for 8 months and outside the rest of the year, I'm always tinkering with making rocket stoves with found objects as a hobby and as paying for gas /propane and butane annoys me when efficient stick burning is, well more efficient! not destroying the earth, as local as it gets, and free...
Anyway youre not wrong about melting the gear.. I just melted the bottom out of my little folding portable firebox wood cook stove thingy with twigs and tree bark.... mostly the bark tho bc damn that stuff burns hotter than any of the actual wood it comes from that I know of. Highly undervalued resource is tree bark as byproduct of firewood harvesting and cutting.
I am personally not concerned about cooking in aluminum. The causal relationship with Alzheimer's disease has been disproven. Some aluminum can leach from pots and pans and into food but not enough to create a toxic level. Hard anodizing is a process of causing the aluminum to create its own protective layer. It is many time stronger than steel of the same thickness and resists scratching an to some degree, food sticking to it. Empty aluminum pots and pans are at risk of melting over very high heat. Hard anodizing does reduce the risk some. As long as there is food or water on a pot or pan, it will transfer the heat and prevent melting A Ghillie kettle, aluminum or stainless steel should never be placed empty on a fire as it could cause damage. Hope this helps. Thanks for commenting
@@MarkYoungBushcraft Thanks!
@@thebandplayedon..6145 Thanks!
FYI Titanium cookware has quite a bit of aluminum in it. Pure titanium is not very conductive at all (17.0 W/m-K, vs 210 W/m-K for aluminum) which makes it very bad for cooking (or trying to weld it) as it wont want to heat up, it wont want to transfer heat to the food, and will take an absurd about of energy and time to get it hot, and will then take ages to cool down. Yet 'titanium' cookware exhibits none of these properties, it heats up fast (a bit too fast for cooking food directly without burning) and also cools down fast. So to achieve this they have to use a highly thermally conductive metal that doesn't cost too much (aluminum) and make an alloy that is mostly aluminum.
why didnt you start the pot at the beginning again? must the kettle be boiling first?
No reason other than feeding the fire and timing for my lunch. Thanks for commenting
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Thanks for commenting
im sure one of my buddies would drink a beer while we are car camping and melt the aluminum one, its got to be stainless for me for car camping.
Stainless steel would be a bit better for that reason. Thanks for commenting
great
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