I have seen that you couldn't hold the whistle when water boils because it is made of metal. KK has a silicone whistle that you can hold it at the edges with bare hands plus a keyring that you can place your finger in it (it doesn't get hot) for pouring water. A small but not to be neglected detail.
I love my Kelly Kettle, I pair it with a thermos. I live off grid and use mine every day. I drilled a hole in the stopper 4 two reasons, 1 I can run it with the stopper on, no volcano eruption, 2 I put a silicone hose in that hole attached to a stainless steel straw and have a steam wand that I can steam blast with for cleaning stuff, it'll cook oatmeal or eggs.
The Ghillie only comes in aluminium, right? That's a pretty big difference and one that makes the KK the better option for durability and possibly health too.
You don’t have to cook on the top of the Kelly kettle, Once your water has boiled set it aside and cook on the base with attachments, The Kelly kettle is stainless steel where as the ghillie kettle is aluminium, Stainless steel is much better durability plus healthier, They are almost identical in design but the Kelly kettle is the winner for the reasons I mentioned.
Thanks for the video, here in Canada I went with the KK trekker which is their smallest offering for the solo outdoorsman. The deciding factors for me were stainless steel (I couldn't find a SS ghillie kettle) and the cost for what I got, I went with the full trekker package that included a tiny pot with lid/pan and a pot gripper, tiny grill about a hamburger patty size, the hobo stove attachment, the dual purpose pot stand that doubles as a fire pan holder keeping it lifted off the ground if your not using it on top of the kettle to utilize the flames and a coffee cup with silicone lip guard. Everything with the exception of the pot stand nests together for storage, I'll probably never use the cooking grate for its intended purpose it'll get repurposed. The hobo attachment they have (it can be seen in the one picture you showed) is actually a pretty good idea, you pop the kettle off and place it on top of your fire base and it sits raised up almost two inches higher than the fire bowl and has fingers going out that act as a flat surface that will hold a pan or pot no problem while still allowing air to be pulled through and the ability to keep feeding wood in while you cook. The kettle has a green silicone stopper with a whistle incorporated into it which illuminates the danger of people forgetting to pull the cork out. The pot and lid can be useful for cooking to a degree but I'll likely use them as a holder for dehydrated soup mix I make with a ranger band holding them together. I haven't owned a ghillie, the KK is my first of this type of system I'd have to agree with you, they're both good systems
Sound reasoning. I bought the full kit when I got my KK. I think it's the same as yours, just with a bigger kettle. I hadn't thought about the Stainless Steel difference when I ordered the Ghille Kettle. In retrospect, I probably should have gone with that.
I ended up going with the ghillie kettle for the sole reason that it’s made in the UK. Both priced about the same but the Kelly kettle is made in China which is extremely unfortunate. If Kelly was still made in Ireland I would have chosen their product as I would have preferred a stainless steel option over aluminum.
Thanks for the review. I have had the Kelly Kettle Trekker for years. It is a staple for my camping/prep gear. To your point, they are pretty much the same design thus very similar. Obviously these are made for the trail/camp and not the kitchen. I have had boiling water in less than 10 minutes from unpacking to brew. At home, I use my electric kettle for practicality :)
Alright I have the kk been using it for years. Don't cook on top of kettle. Boil your water set kettle aside put the folding grate on the base fits right in then cook on that much easier and not going to tip over .
Dunno if it's a Cultural thing but 1. in UK ( Euroland is something else) we have corded electrical kettles: Small travellers ones and others taking 2-3 pint size ( 1.7L in glass is ours) and it is KWIK. ( under 3kW input for the record). 2. Getting your Beanz to cook at the same time or cuppasoup in a pot with the escaping heat is a worthwhile thing with the supplied equipment. Yes OK if you are just plain cooking, or for more/larger quantities you'll want something better. WE have the Silicone whistle on our KK, but the issue is dry fuel in the wilds! Cardboard itself is v good - but doesn't grow on trees as a rule!
@@katzonmarketing5254 I've read that the Kelly Kettle should always be filled with water, as heating it partially filled can damage it. But a full kettle boils very quickly. Putting a regular coffee pot type kettle on that oversized stove top ring us absurd what a waste of energy. You have a very small base trying to heat a tall column of water, very inefficient. Very low surface area exposed to heat. The reason the KK works so efficiently, is its maximum surface area exposed to heat. I've noticed over many decades of observing silly women boiling kettles in staff tea rooms, that they almost invariably fill a 2 litre kettle with cold water, which takes an age to boil. They then make one cup of tea and leave the kettle to get cold again. Often, when I am (efficiently) boiling the bare minimum water necessary to make my own cup of tea, they will barge in, and fill the almost-boiled kettle with cold water, as above.
Untrue. They claim this but the earliest patents are 1928 for Sirram and 1929 for Thermette. The Kelly Kettle company didn’t even exist until the 1950s. They hold no patents or can show any proof they invented this. No photos, no blueprints, no specimens.
Electric kettles are available in America but they are slower because we use 120 volts in houses vs 220 in other regions of the world. Boiling water on the kitchen stove is usually faster than an electric kettle.
Those cooking options are really impractical. The problem I see with the chimney pot stand is that while your cooking the kettle will be boiling off with a lot of steam getting the way. If you need a long cook time the kettle could run dry Also trying to feed the burner will be awkward.
Ghillie kettle has aluminium base thar will burn out in time, Kelly Kettle has a stainless steel base. If all you want to do is boil water, try the Ghillie M-Kettle, Australian EcoBilly (stainless steel) & numerous others. I prefer my gear to be capable of doing more than one thing. I own a Kelly kettle trekker for solo use. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for your reply. I agree-- SS probably would have been a better choice. However, considering how many decades they've been making the ghillie kettle, I'd imagine you'd be hearing about the base burning out everywhere in the adventure community if it were actually an issue. More likely I'll burn out before it does.
I personally have nothing against China. But, seeing "Made in China" written on 80% of the stuff I own makes me want to buy stuff made in other countries. Human nature, I guess? LOL Anyway, once I realized the KK is made in China, I took it off the list. Looking at the Petromax version. I like the butterfly handles vs messing around with the chain. Great concept, no doubt!
25 minutes to boil water on the stove? uh, it should take less than 8 minutes unless you are like 4000 feet up or more... i think on average my water is a roiling boil in 5ish minutes with a glass pot that i use for ramen. so it might be that stove top pot just is no good, get a proper pan with surface area?
If it's boiling water in a kettle one seeks, my little Burton induction hob and enameled steel teakettle heat water in seconds, not minutes. OTOH, it's not prepper, nor does it reduce yard debris.
@@iainamurrayWhy does it have to be per week? It’s for emergency preparedness and camping. How often does your house burn down yet you still buy fire insurance right?
@@hardcorecampinggear I’m not talking about preparedness or camping. You mentioned that your wife was using a stove top kettle and how few AirBnB have a way of heating water and I observed (not disparagingly) that seemingly very few Americans have/use electric kettles, which I find unusual given it’s a daily essential in a UK kitchen. In fact, our national grid keeps an eye on things like advert breaks during televised public events so they can ramp up production ready for the surge in need as people go and put the kettle on during the break.
@@iainamurray Most American homes use a stovetop kettle, whether they have an electric stove top or a gas stove top. My wife has a dedicated plugin electric kettle because it heats water faster than a kettle on the stovetop. The device in the video is for emergency use or camping. When Hurricane Ian hit in Florida we were without power for 5 days. Some in Northport were without power for 3-4 weeks.
You didn't meniton that the KK was made in both the UK and CHINA. The Ghillie Kettle is made in the UK. I don't want to pick your review to pieces but for a fact it was rambling and at times I didn't know which one that you were talking about. Your recommendation? Get the cheaper one. Why did I even watch this?
Wait! I don't think you did a "Fair" comparison in timing the stove top kettle and the Ghillie Kettle! you "MUST" consider the "Amount" of water in the stove top to the Ghillie kettle, dude! it's a biased comparison on your part! You're "Not" trust worthy! "Big Thumb Down" for you!
I have seen that you couldn't hold the whistle when water boils because it is made of metal. KK has a silicone whistle that you can hold it at the edges with bare hands plus a keyring that you can place your finger in it (it doesn't get hot) for pouring water. A small but not to be neglected detail.
The whole purposes of these is to help in troubled times, off grid etc. Tge whole concept and build, is great idea.. good tool to have .
I love my Kelly Kettle, I pair it with a thermos. I live off grid and use mine every day. I drilled a hole in the stopper 4 two reasons, 1 I can run it with the stopper on, no volcano eruption, 2 I put a silicone hose in that hole attached to a stainless steel straw and have a steam wand that I can steam blast with for cleaning stuff, it'll cook oatmeal or eggs.
The Ghillie only comes in aluminium, right? That's a pretty big difference and one that makes the KK the better option for durability and possibly health too.
Fair point. If that's an issue for you then the KK is definitely the way to go.
They do make the Ghillie kettle in Hard anodised which is as good at stainless but much lighter.
...and the KK is made in China (if that matters to you).
No, you can have stainless steel or aluminium Kelly Kettles.
Aluminum is fine as long as you don't cook something acidic or never use steel whisks that scrapes the aluminum.Use wood or plastic to stirr with
You don’t have to cook on the top of the Kelly kettle,
Once your water has boiled set it aside and cook on the base with attachments,
The Kelly kettle is stainless steel where as the ghillie kettle is aluminium,
Stainless steel is much better durability plus healthier,
They are almost identical in design but the Kelly kettle is the winner for the reasons I mentioned.
Но он не удобный ,в отличие от чешского самовара
They make stainless and aluminium versions and they are Chinese made these days.
Thanks for the video, here in Canada I went with the KK trekker which is their smallest offering for the solo outdoorsman. The deciding factors for me were stainless steel (I couldn't find a SS ghillie kettle) and the cost for what I got, I went with the full trekker package that included a tiny pot with lid/pan and a pot gripper, tiny grill about a hamburger patty size, the hobo stove attachment, the dual purpose pot stand that doubles as a fire pan holder keeping it lifted off the ground if your not using it on top of the kettle to utilize the flames and a coffee cup with silicone lip guard. Everything with the exception of the pot stand nests together for storage, I'll probably never use the cooking grate for its intended purpose it'll get repurposed. The hobo attachment they have (it can be seen in the one picture you showed) is actually a pretty good idea, you pop the kettle off and place it on top of your fire base and it sits raised up almost two inches higher than the fire bowl and has fingers going out that act as a flat surface that will hold a pan or pot no problem while still allowing air to be pulled through and the ability to keep feeding wood in while you cook. The kettle has a green silicone stopper with a whistle incorporated into it which illuminates the danger of people forgetting to pull the cork out. The pot and lid can be useful for cooking to a degree but I'll likely use them as a holder for dehydrated soup mix I make with a ranger band holding them together. I haven't owned a ghillie, the KK is my first of this type of system I'd have to agree with you, they're both good systems
Sound reasoning. I bought the full kit when I got my KK. I think it's the same as yours, just with a bigger kettle.
I hadn't thought about the Stainless Steel difference when I ordered the Ghille Kettle. In retrospect, I probably should have gone with that.
I ended up going with the ghillie kettle for the sole reason that it’s made in the UK. Both priced about the same but the Kelly kettle is made in China which is extremely unfortunate. If Kelly was still made in Ireland I would have chosen their product as I would have preferred a stainless steel option over aluminum.
Thanks for the review. I have had the Kelly Kettle Trekker for years. It is a staple for my camping/prep gear. To your point, they are pretty much the same design thus very similar. Obviously these are made for the trail/camp and not the kitchen. I have had boiling water in less than 10 minutes from unpacking to brew. At home, I use my electric kettle for practicality :)
Kelly kettle made in China just ordered it before I looked up info order canceled it ordering ghillie kettle
Kelly is best
When you lift it up, can it get stuck on the stove?
The KK now comes with a "green" colored plug that won't melt and whistles just like teapots
Alright I have the kk been using it for years. Don't cook on top of kettle. Boil your water set kettle aside put the folding grate on the base fits right in then cook on that much easier and not going to tip over .
Their version of the hobo stove. Still feels impractical due to the small size but if it works for you… I salute you.
Dunno if it's a Cultural thing but 1. in UK ( Euroland is something else) we have corded electrical kettles: Small travellers ones and others taking 2-3 pint size ( 1.7L in glass is ours) and it is KWIK. ( under 3kW input for the record).
2. Getting your Beanz to cook at the same time or cuppasoup in a pot with the escaping heat is a worthwhile thing with the supplied equipment. Yes OK if you are just plain cooking, or for more/larger quantities you'll want something better. WE have the Silicone whistle on our KK, but the issue is dry fuel in the wilds! Cardboard itself is v good - but doesn't grow on trees as a rule!
Was the stove top boiling the same amount of water?
Yes. I just eyeballed it though. We're at about 100 feet above sea level.
@@katzonmarketing5254
I've read that the Kelly Kettle should always be filled with water, as heating it partially filled can damage it. But a full kettle boils very quickly.
Putting a regular coffee pot type kettle on that oversized stove top ring us absurd what a waste of energy. You have a very small base trying to heat a tall column of water, very inefficient. Very low surface area exposed to heat.
The reason the KK works so efficiently, is its maximum surface area exposed to heat.
I've noticed over many decades of observing silly women boiling kettles in staff tea rooms, that they almost invariably fill a 2 litre kettle with cold water, which takes an age to boil. They then make one cup of tea and leave the kettle to get cold again.
Often, when I am (efficiently) boiling the bare minimum water necessary to make my own cup of tea, they will barge in, and fill the almost-boiled kettle with cold water, as above.
The Ghillie family designed and has produced the Kelly Kettle since 1890. I prefer the stainless steel Kelly.
Untrue. They claim this but the earliest patents are 1928 for Sirram and 1929 for Thermette. The Kelly Kettle company didn’t even exist until the 1950s. They hold no patents or can show any proof they invented this. No photos, no blueprints, no specimens.
Are electric kettles not available in America??🤷♂️
What's with boiling a ketle on a hob?
Emergency preparedness and camping.
Electric kettles are available in America but they are slower because we use 120 volts in houses vs 220 in other regions of the world. Boiling water on the kitchen stove is usually faster than an electric kettle.
You're comparing boiling water time... but that was a lot more water on the stove! Thanks for the video 👌
Equal amounts of water?
Yes.
Those cooking options are really impractical.
The problem I see with the chimney pot stand is that while your cooking the kettle will be boiling off with a lot of steam getting the way. If you need a long cook time the kettle could run dry Also trying to feed the burner will be awkward.
Great comparison between the two. Thanks for sharing 😊
Ghillie kettle has aluminium base thar will burn out in time, Kelly Kettle has a stainless steel base. If all you want to do is boil water, try the Ghillie M-Kettle, Australian EcoBilly (stainless steel) & numerous others. I prefer my gear to be capable of doing more than one thing. I own a Kelly kettle trekker for solo use. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for your reply. I agree-- SS probably would have been a better choice. However, considering how many decades they've been making the ghillie kettle, I'd imagine you'd be hearing about the base burning out everywhere in the adventure community if it were actually an issue. More likely I'll burn out before it does.
I personally have nothing against China. But, seeing "Made in China" written on 80% of the stuff I own makes me want to buy stuff made in other countries. Human nature, I guess? LOL Anyway, once I realized the KK is made in China, I took it off the list. Looking at the Petromax version. I like the butterfly handles vs messing around with the chain. Great concept, no doubt!
I feel ya. I try to choose pro-Western values countries whenever possible.
Every household in Britain and Ireland has an electric kettle, but we run on 230/240 volts so not sure if that would be appropriate for America
Yes, we typically have them here in the US too. But they don't work in a power outage.
@@hardcorecampinggear lol
25 minutes to boil water on the stove? uh, it should take less than 8 minutes unless you are like 4000 feet up or more... i think on average my water is a roiling boil in 5ish minutes with a glass pot that i use for ramen.
so it might be that stove top pot just is no good, get a proper pan with surface area?
That could be it. We were above 4500 feet, higher part of Reno, Nevada.
Looks like you got the "base camp" version.( large)
You want something for backpacking? Get the "trekker" version.(small)
If it's boiling water in a kettle one seeks, my little Burton induction hob and enameled steel teakettle heat water in seconds, not minutes. OTOH, it's not prepper, nor does it reduce yard debris.
It blows my mind that so few Americans seem to have an electric kettle
Electric kettle doesn’t work when the grid is down.
@@hardcorecampinggear How often is the grid down per week for the average American?
@@iainamurrayWhy does it have to be per week? It’s for emergency preparedness and camping. How often does your house burn down yet you still buy fire insurance right?
@@hardcorecampinggear I’m not talking about preparedness or camping. You mentioned that your wife was using a stove top kettle and how few AirBnB have a way of heating water and I observed (not disparagingly) that seemingly very few Americans have/use electric kettles, which I find unusual given it’s a daily essential in a UK kitchen. In fact, our national grid keeps an eye on things like advert breaks during televised public events so they can ramp up production ready for the surge in need as people go and put the kettle on during the break.
@@iainamurray Most American homes use a stovetop kettle, whether they have an electric stove top or a gas stove top. My wife has a dedicated plugin electric kettle because it heats water faster than a kettle on the stovetop.
The device in the video is for emergency use or camping. When Hurricane Ian hit in Florida we were without power for 5 days. Some in Northport were without power for 3-4 weeks.
5:14 I can see why your wife does all of the cooking
i managed to run one of these off a alcohol stove
horrible experience
You didn't meniton that the KK was made in both the UK and CHINA. The Ghillie Kettle is made in the UK. I don't want to pick your review to pieces but for a fact it was rambling and at times I didn't know which one that you were talking about. Your recommendation? Get the cheaper one. Why did I even watch this?
Rick, thank you for the input.
That music is excruciating and unnecessary.
This whole video has been just black screen
Have you updated your browser? Maybe try refreshing?
Wait! I don't think you did a "Fair" comparison in timing the stove top kettle and the Ghillie Kettle! you "MUST" consider the "Amount" of water in the stove top to the Ghillie kettle, dude! it's a biased comparison on your part! You're "Not" trust worthy! "Big Thumb Down" for you!
Of course I measured the same amount of water in each. What would be the point in even doing it if I didn’t, lol.
I'm visualizing a millennial jumping up and down and stomping😂😅
Does the stupid music stop soon? Can barely finish listening but I’ll try a few more seconds.🙄😡 Nope.
Why anybody want to listen to what you have to say is beyond me?
Mom? Is that you?
Looks like you boiled way much water on the stove than you did in the kelly/ghillie kettle, which would make your comparison flawed.