List of ashes that I missed because they're so insignificant that I forgot about their existence but should've improved: Vaccum slice Lightning slash [maybe]
@@hansdammers00 Idk, that one is in a good place for bigger weapons it's the smaller weapons that don't have enough hitstun or reach to make proper use of it. Making it faster on those similar to double slash/sword dance would make it a lot more usable.
dude honestly not worth it. fromsoft might only integrate like 10% of your submission. while sweeping the needed stuff under the desk. PvP will never be half decent as long as fromsoft is only integrating like 10% assuming that would be enough or change anything lol. They might not patch it all in this case 😂
If StrugglerVA has 9.59k fans I'm one of them If StrugglerVA has 5 fans I'm still one of them If StrugglerVA has 1 fan that's me If StrugglerVA has 0 fans I'm dead If the ganksquads are against StrugglerVA I'm against the ganksquads
Very well done. I like the emphasis on buffs that increase usability at all levels of play, allowing for greater reward for a little skill investment, without simply beefing them up in mindless ways, like Fromsoft have done with several AoWs in 1.13. That being said, the first input of the slow version of Double Slash is actually quite good on medium weapons. It tends to frame-trap and rollcatch with scary reliability. I would simply decrease the startup and recovery of the follow-up, while increasing its turning speed. Also, I would suggest giving Repeating Thrust better tracking on the initial turn, a bit of active tracking or free-aim freedom throughout the duration of the animation, and >133 poise damage on each hit with DL8 hitstun.
I think most stance ashes could use slight buffs to the startup speed and reduced endlag on the attacks. The sole exception would be transient moonlight. That skill specifically needs more recovery frames and increased delay on cancel recovery so it's more easily punished with how quick and powerful it still is even after the nerfs.
@@ALUCARDTWILLIGHT I'd say that's fair. Unsheathe is also in a pretty good spot, it just doesn't have the range and potential damage like transient moonlight does.
@@Lost1ntheSauc3 Wing stance R1 could use a bit of forward momentum, but beyond that its also in a good spot damage-wise. However, the recovery after the R2 is still fairly long even with the damage it can do. I just wish you could go immediately into wing stance from R1 combo's natural wing stance position. THAT would be peak.
Funny thing is about bad ashes, winning with them is so satisfying, i beat an arena tryhard with halberd axe by sitting on top of him with groundslam. It was way more satisfying than most wins because of how bad it is.
It is very sad that we'll likely never see any of these ashes actually get care put into them from fromsoft, but, with the amount of people modding elden ring and trying to improve and add on to it gives me hope for future soulslikes made by fans which will hopefully not just have cooler stuff to chose from, but also more care for build variety and such.
knowing FS they aren't going to implement any of this but seeing how Seamless is... in it's current state I wonder if we will ever get a large community patch where videos like this one(have seen many others of its' ilk already) are used to buff a lot of options and nerf others. also the Kirby Air Ride OST going hard
honestly hopeful considering seamless was updated to allow invasions and redditors kept saying it'd be either impossible or that nobody would want it. yet here we are
he hasn't done extensive testing, it's easy to think something is balanced when you only test it in a few duels but there are no guarantee that this will be balanced when hundreds of people start using it and finding ways to exploit it So yes until he does extensive testing you cannot assume that if all of these change were put into the game it would necessarily improve the balance of the game He also likely has way more time than people in charge of balance at Fromsoft, I don't think they would spend much resources and time on play-testing and balance to improve PVP since it won't make them any money
@@ni9274i agree with most of your statement, except the last part... dude, suggesting isn't equal to having more time, he's literally trying to fix FS balance problems, and FS devs get paid for it.
I've been stubbornly using charge forth for years. It's inclusion in Godfrey's Icon helped, but something like that would really put me into my inquisitor's griandole type mood!
DLC has come and gone and Miyazaki still won't let me put charge forth on my golem's halberd despite that being the default AoW on it... What's wrong with lion's claw and square off? Those aren't like the rest.
It is interesting that fromsoft made so many aows and still have so many of them are just awful, even if they are fun to use. You can parry double slash and sword dance, but spinning slash is unparriable while having poise and is a true combo for the full three hits, depending on poise break, though. I would've loved to have gotten some actual unique aows for hammers and axes and the spinning flail aow that we will never get for some dumb reason.
if you do a similar video for bad somber aow i'd really like to see the changes to cranial vessel, i would love to use that mace but the aow has almost 3 seconds of recovery its absurd
I have a question... how long exactly did this take you? Because it seems like there are some sensible changes here that arent obnoxious which makes me wonder why post-launch support has been questionably slow I guess the DLC explains some of it, but like damn, there is so much that could be improved or tuned better
@@Paydirt90847 the ashes of war took like 5 hours to get it right. Editing the video and gathering the footage probably took around 10ish hours. Im in the progress of working on the neglected unique weapon skills video and it only took me 3 hours to finish all the changes. Now i gotta script the video, gather the footage, do the voice over, edit the audio so it sounds professional, and edit the whole thing together into a vid
Square off is already game breaking in PvE, this buff would make it like a top 3 ash in the game. They would absolutely need to reduce its poise damage because this would let you stun lock bosses even harder than you already can with faster startup and hyper armor Love the change to stamp sweep (except for making it look far less cool in the recovery time :)), I found it to be pretty disappointing in PvE as well except for launching enemies off cliffs or something. This change could make it a little broken since you could maybe stun lock bosses/tough enemies who can be thrown down though (like Malenia), not sure how it would work out exactly
Phenomenal video.. Guys like you always come up trying fix the game since DS1 and from software never cares, hopefully it changes with this video, wishful thinking i know. Be that as it may it is a very well constructed video.
can't wait for fromsoft to introduce another golden vow 😂 we have ash, incantation, default ash, item, uplifting aromatic for physical builds. i think we need sorcery named golden vow.
it depends on matchup and and situation and latency. there is not single best aow for all situation. it's also depends on your build and if it's invasion or duel. i would recommend to have multiple gugs with different aows.
he has said before giant hunt, bhs/quickstep, lion's claw overshadow all other ashes in terms of practicality. I would rule out quickstep and bloodhound step as they are just cheesy in general. You can into quickstep to recover faster and usually turns into a crutch for most players, as movement ashes promote passive play. They can be very powerful, but broken and won't make you better at the game just more annoying for your opponent. Honestly for a large portion of PVP matchups, stamp sweep is still useful especially when coupled with status as the proc can stagger in the first hit even if your opponent rolls which will guarantee the second hit. However you need to be very skilled at free aiming and timing this ash, the low damage sucks though along with its very long recovery. It's not the best one but it's still useful. I couldn't say the same thing about stamp upward cut. I still have stamp sweep on my next hardswap slot against top players because I know they will be aggressing hot on my butt with a milady or a greatspear trying to bait rolls. Backstep stamp - backstep/throwable/r1/r2 mixups will always be the most useful tool for keeping aggression while also allowing you to use stamp on its own to turn the tables on an aggressive player. In the very highest echelon of tryhard pvp, the "mist" family of ashes will be seen the most often. it can act as a rollcatch for people rolling into you, its hyperarmor is good enough to get you out of aggressive combos, and it can instantly proc whatever status you're trying to inflict. most players will use it with frost, or poison mist combined with a bleed gugs. it's overall a good ash that is easy to recover from and gives your weapon a buff in case you miss which makes its risk/reward ratio much better than all other aows. You could also potentially use sacred blade if you have a faith build with sacred affinity. Royal Knight's Resolve is a good consideration too. It's overall a very low risk ash. You're essentially sacrificing an ash of war slot to boost your regular attacks, which you will be using more than ashes as a gugs main. You can also bait someone with the RKR animation and it will follow up with a secondary attack of the r1 combo if you input an r1.
@@lukaogadze5071 I personally don't use it since it's very punishable when you have to reapply it. I'm on pc though and I use RKR from time to time. the 40% dmg buff is just too juicy to pass
Honestly I feel like vertical hits like Stamp Upper Cut and Lion's Claw shouldn't get this much tracking. The idea being that horizontal sweeps are the ones that you should be using to counter opponents' strafing instead, while the vertical hits counter jumping and deal more damage. Obviously it's not one extreme or the other but not all attacks should excel at the same aspects imo. For Lion's Claw in particular I think its use should be for medium range to begin with and for it to retain such bad tracking for very close range like the clip you showed, while getting other benefits to compensate for that and keep its identity imho.
I just happened on his channel today and when he brought up the Stamp ashes I was hammering the Like and Sub button! I had played Dark Souls 3 with Lothric Knight UGS mostly, so I was used to that. Fast forward to ER I was using the flashy AOW's most people use. Then in the DLC that Frost Lion Warrior near the end of the game I was trying to find a way to consistently beat him, and good ole' Stamp: Upward Cut did it for me. I sure wouldn't mind the upgrades StrugglerVA did! (my biggest gripe is the tracking is kinda hard......and Sweep needs an even larger upgrade I think)
Should have made ground slam damage scale with equip load and height used from. Being overloaded and using it off a ledge to 1 shot with would be a great meme build
Amazing video! What are you planning next?! There is a lot of useless magic in this game, do you have any idea for those? If you have, could you do any video on those? Also, maybe you could show this one to Jeenine and see if he can also add those changes in the video he is making to send to Fromsoft/Bandai.
@@CheeseInvader magic is super tricky, a lot of spells share the same animation so buffing the turning or animation speed could change more than i would intend. For instance, i would love to make rock sling a little faster but it shares the same animations as a lot of sorceries such as comet which i would definitely not want to make faster. I would have to tinker with the software im using but if i were just a bit more knowledgeable on it, im sure it would be possible
@@StrugglerVA Interesting, it does sounds tricky. Well, let's just hope that at least this video reaches fromsoft before the support for ER ends. I would love to see those ashes getting some love.
I have a question. if I use the ash of war that has hyper armor(such as storm blade) with an weapon that has hyper armor such as great sword(two-handed), then the ash of war is less canceled by attacks of the enemy than when using the same ash with a weapon that has no hyper armor such as katana?
Bro is a legend for this. I've been wondering about the issue with bows and crossbows right now. I wonder what your stance is on magic, sacred, etc.(status Affinities exempt) for bows and crossbows. I've been wishing for magic archer builds since release. I would like to use bows other than ansbac's and the black bow.
The poise on that lifesteal fist doesn't sound as terrifying as it could be. I'll accept that idea. Another idea is to make it a poiseless lunge with little startup. Like a fast punish for people blocking. Use the netcode to "poise" into poised fighters. Again, I prefer your idea. If the fists got a lunge like that then honestly the Blessed Strike deserves one too.
@@Thereisnogreatersword most likely yes, however that is far beyond my knowledge of modding at the current moment. The dagger talisman having unchanged crit animations was something that always really pissed me off in elden ring
Havent watched yet but i forsee stamp buff Id also recommend having s japanese subtitles added. Maybe send this to one of the bigger content creators and have their viewers spam bandai with this video
On the topic of Asses of War, I'd wish From would buff Godfrey's Regal Roar. It's so slow and pretty much punishable and easily jumped through. But the charges later on after the ash is applied are good and fast, it's even buffed more with the newly added Shattered Stone talisman which buffs stomp/kick related abilities, the charge's start up is a heavy stomp.
I like the concept but the buffs are definitely overturned compared what we actually have in the game. I would definitely download the pack for offline pve!
Great video! What program did you use to modify the game? I really want to know how to do that to make lil testing mods and such. If you could point me in the direction to learn how to do that I would be so thankful.
I feel like most of the grab attacks (inescapable frenzy, lifesteal fist, etc.) should be getting similar treatments to something like Golden Crux in that they should be getting rushdown in some manner. GC is better for invasions when players are gonna be trying to dodge both you AND the mobs in a given dungeon, but you simply don't have that element of chaos in duels where there's nothing to distract you. Grabs force you to directly respect their space in other games, but you don't have to do that with Elden Ring. I wanna play a proper grappler in this game, damn it!
@@My2Cents.iF7934 golden crux does WAY too much damage for how insanely fast and long range it is. Plus, it gets 500 poise instead of 120, which is also cracked as hell. Its just all over the place in my opinion.
@@broccolin great suggestion. Its actually pretty good on straightswords bc you get a true combo into r1 if i recall correctly. Its mediocre on other weapon classes however
I would say that I'm not sure on all of these, many are quite good in open world pve. A lot of this could be explored by specifying which changes are pvp exclusive. - charge forth dealing good damage, confirming environmental kills, and perma-stunlocking knight enemies. - Spinning strikes DOSE need help, but the hyper armor just makes it seem too similar to wild strikes, perhaps limiting it to increasing starting poise on start up or start up speed while the swings get the poise damage needed to stagger people trying to close. - Lions claw is fine, not pvp focused but it has perfect hyper armor and INSANE poise damage and just.... Damage.... It's not aggressive pvp tool but if you get the drop on someone it can nearly one shot people. - Trolls roar, tbh poise damage for pve is my biggest complaint about it in pvp, otherwise you're changes are fine.
would disagree for the lion's tracking allowing u to change direction mid air, other than that, i'd appreciate having them ig :( another thing that could use your help is the R2+R2 after using war cry.. these are almost impossible to use on pvp, but they do shred on PVE, i used it for all the main game, but in the dlc it became unusable since punish windows on bosses are super short ... haaa.. it felt so good to run toward an ennemy with my berserk GS doing sparkles on the ground, and the shoulder hitting the ennemy multiple time, and stunning them t_t ... unfortunately, i tried something funny with a bleed build and tried that marais guy armor that deals bleed damage when you roll onto ennemy thinking the shoulder hit would also get some bleed build up on the charge but it didn't :'( to give u guys an idea of the damage this ash allowed me to do, like other build video, at level 150 with a mixed build not even around 55 str, one R2 could one shot the omen guy in leyndell sewer XD overpowered asf
@@mathieu499 yeah r2 + r2 on both war cry and barbaric road are super buns, even with the true combo. The tracking is incredible jank on war cry and the barbaric roar r2 is actually punishable on hit
Are these for pvp? Or pve or both? Asking because since when in PvE are Lions claw, wild strikes, spinning strikes, square off and I'm sorry... double slash (the bloodflame nagakiba monster) are forgotten? Can you even put anything on the greatsword or great stars besides lions claw? I think its literally impossible. I'm sorry, you can put wild strikes on great stars too. Or rusted anchor, Great katana any hammer claw and just slowly walk forward and win. Square off is a stance breaking machine and slaps on a dual straight sword build. Try spinning strikes on grave scythe, naginata or any other polearm and tell me it's not good. And double slash.... Double slash is disgusting how strong it can be on katana, great katana or even Claymore. I can agree with others you mentioned, but those 5 AoW are already amazing and anyone who knows anything about ER knows that.
As per usual, leave it to content creators to make the game better, invent mods that make it more fun and effective, explain lore with more than a sentence or two on an obscure piece of armor etc 😅 I know so many people love from Soft and Miyazaki, but let’s be real, they just make a pretty game lol😂 the community knows what’s wrong with it and from Soft will leave its biggest money maker for another year or two while they work on something less important
Fromsoft balance team (if there's any or something parallel to that) is super incompetent/don't gib a F. They nerfed Miriam's because of jeewhine braindead whining about it that he corrected himself later, yet they did it anyways. Unironically giving power to jeewhine in the balance by giving a fuck about what he says on his ebin feedback videos he sends to them. Writers were also pretty incompetent. Maybe From is just incompetent now... despite the sales saying otherwise. Hm.
erm none of there can instakill autotrack phantomhit super armor frame1 startup rollcatch multihit unparryable fpless spammable 0/10 you clearly dont know how to balance ER PVP
@@krekkyboy5816 we need an aow that comes out on frame 1, has revolving invulnerability, does a base 3000 damage, creates an instakill aoe that spans all of limgrave, and has zero recovery, that be pretty awesome and i think players would think its really cool!!!!
@@krekkyboy5816 yeah i think spinning strikes should be useable on ugs, judging by how natural it looks demonstrated by this guy ruclips.net/user/shortsCaKeJEiZqLE?si=ODgY6FcQskyLghnX
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List of ashes that I missed because they're so insignificant that I forgot about their existence but should've improved:
Vaccum slice
Lightning slash [maybe]
Lightning slash desperately needs poise on greater weapons
u forgot gravitas
@@hansdammers00 Idk, that one is in a good place for bigger weapons it's the smaller weapons that don't have enough hitstun or reach to make proper use of it. Making it faster on those similar to double slash/sword dance would make it a lot more usable.
I unironically haven't seen vaccuum slice in a year, I THOUGHT i saw it in the dlc but it was just the greatsword of solitude lol
dude honestly not worth it. fromsoft might only integrate like 10% of your submission. while sweeping the needed stuff under the desk.
PvP will never be half decent as long as fromsoft is only integrating like 10% assuming that would be enough or change anything lol. They might not patch it all in this case 😂
If StrugglerVA has 9.59k fans I'm one of them
If StrugglerVA has 5 fans I'm still one of them
If StrugglerVA has 1 fan that's me
If StrugglerVA has 0 fans I'm dead
If the ganksquads are against StrugglerVA I'm against the ganksquads
@@devotion5940 thank you king 👑 💯
@@StrugglerVAare you actually gust from the that manga
@@abosluss hes Nuts from bearserk, yea. Just look at his pfp. One of the best panels in the manga.
2:57 close enough, welcome back Champion’s Charge
My honest opinion on the stamps is that they should be one ash it literally doesnt make sense they arent
@@ALUCARDTWILLIGHT isn't the point that you can cancel into a light attack if you want? How would this work?
@@frazfrazfrazfraz the removal of that feature would be welcome if it became a stance type ash with sweep or uppercut
Very well done. I like the emphasis on buffs that increase usability at all levels of play, allowing for greater reward for a little skill investment, without simply beefing them up in mindless ways, like Fromsoft have done with several AoWs in 1.13.
That being said, the first input of the slow version of Double Slash is actually quite good on medium weapons. It tends to frame-trap and rollcatch with scary reliability. I would simply decrease the startup and recovery of the follow-up, while increasing its turning speed.
Also, I would suggest giving Repeating Thrust better tracking on the initial turn, a bit of active tracking or free-aim freedom throughout the duration of the animation, and >133 poise damage on each hit with DL8 hitstun.
@@agreydawn9740 yeah repeating thrust tracking is kind of wacko as well
I think most stance ashes could use slight buffs to the startup speed and reduced endlag on the attacks. The sole exception would be transient moonlight. That skill specifically needs more recovery frames and increased delay on cancel recovery so it's more easily punished with how quick and powerful it still is even after the nerfs.
I'd say unsheathe doesn't need a buff either
@@ALUCARDTWILLIGHT I'd say that's fair. Unsheathe is also in a pretty good spot, it just doesn't have the range and potential damage like transient moonlight does.
Wing Stance absolutely does not need a buff, it's one of the most powerful physical ashes in the game, even with the slow startup.
@@Awesomedude124unsheathe has ridiculous damage for the speed it has. Id argue it needs a nerf to its recovery, if anything
@@Lost1ntheSauc3 Wing stance R1 could use a bit of forward momentum, but beyond that its also in a good spot damage-wise. However, the recovery after the R2 is still fairly long even with the damage it can do. I just wish you could go immediately into wing stance from R1 combo's natural wing stance position. THAT would be peak.
This is so cool
@@bonefat21 my thanks 🙏
Great stuff, funny how throughout those 2 years no one wasn’t interested in those enough to spend “as u said” just a few hours to fix those
Man you made charge forth worth it.
Also i'm happy to see Spinning Strikes buffed, it's just sooo fucking cool
Funny thing is about bad ashes, winning with them is so satisfying, i beat an arena tryhard with halberd axe by sitting on top of him with groundslam.
It was way more satisfying than most wins because of how bad it is.
@@TarnishedEldenKing very true, but they deserve better!!!
@@StrugglerVA yeah my butt slam needs a buff.
beating try hards with fun / non meta setups is always fun.
You're my new favorite souls RUclips. Right up there with Rustbucket
@@vacuousssin6552 thanks man i too am subscribed to rust. Rust is the goat
0:36 the feet of miyazaki
bringer of the grace of gold
It is very sad that we'll likely never see any of these ashes actually get care put into them from fromsoft, but, with the amount of people modding elden ring and trying to improve and add on to it gives me hope for future soulslikes made by fans which will hopefully not just have cooler stuff to chose from, but also more care for build variety and such.
@@bigbunga2996 we can only hope sadly
I desperately need a champion's ashes ideological successor for elden ring
knowing FS they aren't going to implement any of this but seeing how Seamless is... in it's current state I wonder if we will ever get a large community patch where videos like this one(have seen many others of its' ilk already) are used to buff a lot of options and nerf others.
also the Kirby Air Ride OST going hard
honestly hopeful considering seamless was updated to allow invasions and redditors kept saying it'd be either impossible or that nobody would want it. yet here we are
@@greenpinapple820 yeah the one we got like 8 months ago posted by onlywaifu was super solid. We need another like that
@@greenpinapple820 i wouldnt be so certain. Wex dust was incorporated in 1.03? After all.
This better blow tf up
I think G9 has a feedback video in the works last i heard, i have hope for the future of pvp balance
Square off is my personal goonbait AoW.
@@adradox 🟦
bro is better at balancing than developers of the game. no offence
he hasn't done extensive testing, it's easy to think something is balanced when you only test it in a few duels but there are no guarantee that this will be balanced when hundreds of people start using it and finding ways to exploit it
So yes until he does extensive testing you cannot assume that if all of these change were put into the game it would necessarily improve the balance of the game
He also likely has way more time than people in charge of balance at Fromsoft, I don't think they would spend much resources and time on play-testing and balance to improve PVP since it won't make them any money
@@ni9274i agree with most of your statement, except the last part... dude, suggesting isn't equal to having more time, he's literally trying to fix FS balance problems, and FS devs get paid for it.
Bold of you to assume fromsoft does "extensive testing" @@ni9274
@@ni9274 why do you meatride Fromsoftware so hard
no, offense
I’d love to see your thoughts on improving sky shot
I've been stubbornly using charge forth for years. It's inclusion in Godfrey's Icon helped, but something like that would really put me into my inquisitor's griandole type mood!
@@van_foreman ive been stubbornly using stamp when earthshaker completely outclasses it
Great video. I think Vacuum Slice might need fix too.
repeating thrust would be alot better with a little more tracking
using that ash is like asking for backstab :(
@@a-youtube-rat yeah i agree, the tracking on that ash is terrible for its relative startup
charge forth should def be on UGS that would be sick
Astora Greatsword... Where art thou
DLC has come and gone and Miyazaki still won't let me put charge forth on my golem's halberd despite that being the default AoW on it... What's wrong with lion's claw and square off? Those aren't like the rest.
IMHO i'd want square off to work exactly like ds3's where you can seamlessly go from the light attack variant into the heavy attack variant
@@Thixico Sure, I'm just comparing them to the rest which are literally unusable memes.
@@anitaremenarova6662 yeah charge forth should be able to put on other weapons too
It is interesting that fromsoft made so many aows and still have so many of them are just awful, even if they are fun to use.
You can parry double slash and sword dance, but spinning slash is unparriable while having poise and is a true combo for the full three hits, depending on poise break, though.
I would've loved to have gotten some actual unique aows for hammers and axes and the spinning flail aow that we will never get for some dumb reason.
@@Mad_Peasant_King yeah spinning chain exists but not as an ash of war for some reason. Plus its just really bad
if you do a similar video for bad somber aow i'd really like to see the changes to cranial vessel, i would love to use that mace but the aow has almost 3 seconds of recovery its absurd
I have a question... how long exactly did this take you? Because it seems like there are some sensible changes here that arent obnoxious which makes me wonder why post-launch support has been questionably slow
I guess the DLC explains some of it, but like damn, there is so much that could be improved or tuned better
@@Paydirt90847 the ashes of war took like 5 hours to get it right. Editing the video and gathering the footage probably took around 10ish hours. Im in the progress of working on the neglected unique weapon skills video and it only took me 3 hours to finish all the changes. Now i gotta script the video, gather the footage, do the voice over, edit the audio so it sounds professional, and edit the whole thing together into a vid
Don't try to put logic on the lack of balance. Support for pvp is just that abyssmally unimportant for them.
Man did 14 ashes in a work day.
Square off is already game breaking in PvE, this buff would make it like a top 3 ash in the game. They would absolutely need to reduce its poise damage because this would let you stun lock bosses even harder than you already can with faster startup and hyper armor
Love the change to stamp sweep (except for making it look far less cool in the recovery time :)), I found it to be pretty disappointing in PvE as well except for launching enemies off cliffs or something. This change could make it a little broken since you could maybe stun lock bosses/tough enemies who can be thrown down though (like Malenia), not sure how it would work out exactly
for square off they could just reduce the pve poise damage so its not broken in pve, maybe up the fp cost becuase for some reason it costs like no fp
Phenomenal video.. Guys like you always come up trying fix the game since DS1 and from software never cares, hopefully it changes with this video, wishful thinking i know. Be that as it may it is a very well constructed video.
seems good. I could vibe with this
16:55 nope, Golden Vow also got that treatment lol
can't wait for fromsoft to introduce another golden vow 😂 we have ash, incantation, default ash, item, uplifting aromatic for physical builds. i think we need sorcery named golden vow.
I'm in for most of the changes, especially charge forth, spinning strikes and double slash.
Also, you're using ds2's greatsword moveset, nice.
@@WeeabooPocky i still miss it
I've seen your videos on a poise teir list but what would your updated list be for the best aow for gugs in pvp?
it depends on matchup and and situation and latency. there is not single best aow for all situation. it's also depends on your build and if it's invasion or duel. i would recommend to have multiple gugs with different aows.
he has said before giant hunt, bhs/quickstep, lion's claw overshadow all other ashes in terms of practicality.
I would rule out quickstep and bloodhound step as they are just cheesy in general. You can into quickstep to recover faster and usually turns into a crutch for most players, as movement ashes promote passive play. They can be very powerful, but broken and won't make you better at the game just more annoying for your opponent.
Honestly for a large portion of PVP matchups, stamp sweep is still useful especially when coupled with status as the proc can stagger in the first hit even if your opponent rolls which will guarantee the second hit. However you need to be very skilled at free aiming and timing this ash, the low damage sucks though along with its very long recovery. It's not the best one but it's still useful. I couldn't say the same thing about stamp upward cut. I still have stamp sweep on my next hardswap slot against top players because I know they will be aggressing hot on my butt with a milady or a greatspear trying to bait rolls. Backstep stamp - backstep/throwable/r1/r2 mixups will always be the most useful tool for keeping aggression while also allowing you to use stamp on its own to turn the tables on an aggressive player.
In the very highest echelon of tryhard pvp, the "mist" family of ashes will be seen the most often. it can act as a rollcatch for people rolling into you, its hyperarmor is good enough to get you out of aggressive combos, and it can instantly proc whatever status you're trying to inflict. most players will use it with frost, or poison mist combined with a bleed gugs. it's overall a good ash that is easy to recover from and gives your weapon a buff in case you miss which makes its risk/reward ratio much better than all other aows. You could also potentially use sacred blade if you have a faith build with sacred affinity.
Royal Knight's Resolve is a good consideration too. It's overall a very low risk ash. You're essentially sacrificing an ash of war slot to boost your regular attacks, which you will be using more than ashes as a gugs main. You can also bait someone with the RKR animation and it will follow up with a secondary attack of the r1 combo if you input an r1.
@@BM-pt6sy is cragblade more useful than rkr? rkr is consumed by phantom hits and buff lasts very short time. no one uses rkr on pc.
@@lukaogadze5071 I personally don't use it since it's very punishable when you have to reapply it. I'm on pc though and I use RKR from time to time. the 40% dmg buff is just too juicy to pass
@@BM-pt6sy idk man i also want to use but im constantly matched to ching chong with vpn and 370 ms :(
kirby air ride music? based
It was a perfect game
Charge forth Strugglerman
Honestly I feel like vertical hits like Stamp Upper Cut and Lion's Claw shouldn't get this much tracking. The idea being that horizontal sweeps are the ones that you should be using to counter opponents' strafing instead, while the vertical hits counter jumping and deal more damage.
Obviously it's not one extreme or the other but not all attacks should excel at the same aspects imo. For Lion's Claw in particular I think its use should be for medium range to begin with and for it to retain such bad tracking for very close range like the clip you showed, while getting other benefits to compensate for that and keep its identity imho.
Would love a stamp buff. Nice vid
@@GrimVenture we could only hope
I just happened on his channel today and when he brought up the Stamp ashes I was hammering the Like and Sub button! I had played Dark Souls 3 with Lothric Knight UGS mostly, so I was used to that. Fast forward to ER I was using the flashy AOW's most people use. Then in the DLC that Frost Lion Warrior near the end of the game I was trying to find a way to consistently beat him, and good ole' Stamp: Upward Cut did it for me. I sure wouldn't mind the upgrades StrugglerVA did! (my biggest gripe is the tracking is kinda hard......and Sweep needs an even larger upgrade I think)
Your adjusted Lion's looks jank. Maybe a stagger hitbox on the body during the flip could be better?
I am a spinning strikes main. I cry every night.
Hahaha Great video! Plus Guts 🤘
@@matth464 hai yai forces
Should have made ground slam damage scale with equip load and height used from. Being overloaded and using it off a ledge to 1 shot with would be a great meme build
Amazing video! What are you planning next?! There is a lot of useless magic in this game, do you have any idea for those? If you have, could you do any video on those?
Also, maybe you could show this one to Jeenine and see if he can also add those changes in the video he is making to send to Fromsoft/Bandai.
@@CheeseInvader magic is super tricky, a lot of spells share the same animation so buffing the turning or animation speed could change more than i would intend. For instance, i would love to make rock sling a little faster but it shares the same animations as a lot of sorceries such as comet which i would definitely not want to make faster. I would have to tinker with the software im using but if i were just a bit more knowledgeable on it, im sure it would be possible
@@StrugglerVA Interesting, it does sounds tricky. Well, let's just hope that at least this video reaches fromsoft before the support for ER ends. I would love to see those ashes getting some love.
i appreciate fire emblem ost and sound effects
Yeah those all sound really good. Really happy with square off getting the love it deserves.
So where do we download these to play with?
7:48 And you can even parry the 2nd hit out of hitstun after the first.
I have a question. if I use the ash of war that has hyper armor(such as storm blade) with an weapon that has hyper armor such as great sword(two-handed), then the ash of war is less canceled by attacks of the enemy than when using the same ash with a weapon that has no hyper armor such as katana?
I'm sending it to FS, so that they can gloriously ignore those issues whatsoever.
Bro is a legend for this. I've been wondering about the issue with bows and crossbows right now.
I wonder what your stance is on magic, sacred, etc.(status Affinities exempt) for bows and crossbows. I've been wishing for magic archer builds since release. I would like to use bows other than ansbac's and the black bow.
15:10 You are aware that it's usable even on a Pike right?
The poise on that lifesteal fist doesn't sound as terrifying as it could be. I'll accept that idea. Another idea is to make it a poiseless lunge with little startup. Like a fast punish for people blocking. Use the netcode to "poise" into poised fighters.
Again, I prefer your idea. If the fists got a lunge like that then honestly the Blessed Strike deserves one too.
Would it be possible to get hornet ring animations in Elden ring? Either with a talisman or on an attack?
@@Thereisnogreatersword most likely yes, however that is far beyond my knowledge of modding at the current moment. The dagger talisman having unchanged crit animations was something that always really pissed me off in elden ring
Havent watched yet but i forsee stamp buff
Id also recommend having s japanese subtitles added. Maybe send this to one of the bigger content creators and have their viewers spam bandai with this video
On the topic of Asses of War, I'd wish From would buff Godfrey's Regal Roar. It's so slow and pretty much punishable and easily jumped through. But the charges later on after the ash is applied are good and fast, it's even buffed more with the newly added Shattered Stone talisman which buffs stomp/kick related abilities, the charge's start up is a heavy stomp.
I like the concept but the buffs are definitely overturned compared what we actually have in the game. I would definitely download the pack for offline pve!
falx is in the game now...
@@greenpinapple820it's kind of easy to parry tbh
@@nachalnik5738but what happens when the opponent hardswap into it??
@@greenpinapple820is flax that strong? i fought many times flax users and ash is easy to punish with jump attack(depends on latency 😂 )
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@@dragonslayer6000 my thanks i appreciate it more than you know
@StrugglerVA i would translate it to japanese for you but I'm sure there are better qualified people out there for that
@@StrugglerVA the simple effort will go so far my friend
4:20 - Helicopter Mode
Any chance of this getting translated and sent to Bandai/From?
Great video! What program did you use to modify the game? I really want to know how to do that to make lil testing mods and such. If you could point me in the direction to learn how to do that I would be so thankful.
@@darcyscout i only used dsanimstudio, i linked the software in the description
it's a very good video. it's possible to revert psgs changes and how? jumping attack got 17% damage nerf 😢
I can say they same thing about MANY spells
I feel like most of the grab attacks (inescapable frenzy, lifesteal fist, etc.) should be getting similar treatments to something like Golden Crux in that they should be getting rushdown in some manner. GC is better for invasions when players are gonna be trying to dodge both you AND the mobs in a given dungeon, but you simply don't have that element of chaos in duels where there's nothing to distract you. Grabs force you to directly respect their space in other games, but you don't have to do that with Elden Ring. I wanna play a proper grappler in this game, damn it!
@@My2Cents.iF7934 golden crux does WAY too much damage for how insanely fast and long range it is. Plus, it gets 500 poise instead of 120, which is also cracked as hell. Its just all over the place in my opinion.
that ash should not do same damage as riposte with misericode....
They should be like the iron cleaver's R2 on a smaller range. Otherwise their short ass range and slow speed makes it impossible to threaten anything.
this video makes me wish there were more useless ash of wars for you to balance
@@swordierre9341 I think i missed a few like vaccum slice and repeating thrust
@@StrugglerVA Gravitas, maybe? Nobody uses it at all because it's terrible in every single way.
@@broccolin great suggestion. Its actually pretty good on straightswords bc you get a true combo into r1 if i recall correctly. Its mediocre on other weapon classes however
Great video I hope fromsoft are lessening
@@a-youtube-rat me too…
Kick is fine given that every build gets it automatically. Agree with the rest.
I would say that I'm not sure on all of these, many are quite good in open world pve. A lot of this could be explored by specifying which changes are pvp exclusive.
- charge forth dealing good damage, confirming environmental kills, and perma-stunlocking knight enemies.
- Spinning strikes DOSE need help, but the hyper armor just makes it seem too similar to wild strikes, perhaps limiting it to increasing starting poise on start up or start up speed while the swings get the poise damage needed to stagger people trying to close.
- Lions claw is fine, not pvp focused but it has perfect hyper armor and INSANE poise damage and just.... Damage.... It's not aggressive pvp tool but if you get the drop on someone it can nearly one shot people.
- Trolls roar, tbh poise damage for pve is my biggest complaint about it in pvp, otherwise you're changes are fine.
1:50 OK. Wild Strikes and Lion's Claw are actually broken af in PvE, the rest are mid even there (sorry square off fans).
would disagree for the lion's tracking allowing u to change direction mid air, other than that, i'd appreciate having them ig :(
another thing that could use your help is the R2+R2 after using war cry.. these are almost impossible to use on pvp, but they do shred on PVE, i used it for all the main game, but in the dlc it became unusable since punish windows on bosses are super short ... haaa.. it felt so good to run toward an ennemy with my berserk GS doing sparkles on the ground, and the shoulder hitting the ennemy multiple time, and stunning them t_t ...
unfortunately, i tried something funny with a bleed build and tried that marais guy armor that deals bleed damage when you roll onto ennemy thinking the shoulder hit would also get some bleed build up on the charge but it didn't :'(
to give u guys an idea of the damage this ash allowed me to do, like other build video, at level 150 with a mixed build not even around 55 str, one R2 could one shot the omen guy in leyndell sewer XD overpowered asf
@@mathieu499 yeah r2 + r2 on both war cry and barbaric road are super buns, even with the true combo. The tracking is incredible jank on war cry and the barbaric roar r2 is actually punishable on hit
Here before ONLYWAIFU steals this video
Someone send this to Miyazaki
@@HeroOfTheHolySword i think it would need translation before that
@@StrugglerVA yeah fair
Charge Forth is my favorite. I don't care about meta.
Are these for pvp? Or pve or both? Asking because since when in PvE are Lions claw, wild strikes, spinning strikes, square off and I'm sorry... double slash (the bloodflame nagakiba monster) are forgotten? Can you even put anything on the greatsword or great stars besides lions claw? I think its literally impossible. I'm sorry, you can put wild strikes on great stars too. Or rusted anchor, Great katana any hammer claw and just slowly walk forward and win. Square off is a stance breaking machine and slaps on a dual straight sword build. Try spinning strikes on grave scythe, naginata or any other polearm and tell me it's not good.
And double slash.... Double slash is disgusting how strong it can be on katana, great katana or even Claymore.
I can agree with others you mentioned, but those 5 AoW are already amazing and anyone who knows anything about ER knows that.
You should see about getting this translated to japanese
Now is the time
As per usual, leave it to content creators to make the game better, invent mods that make it more fun and effective, explain lore with more than a sentence or two on an obscure piece of armor etc 😅 I know so many people love from
Soft and Miyazaki, but let’s be real, they just make a pretty game lol😂 the community knows what’s wrong with it and from
Soft will leave its biggest money maker for another year or two while they work on something less important
Quote...
Take notes, Fromsoft
Such a shame.... :(
Id deadass add chainsaw back:(
Fromsoft balance team (if there's any or something parallel to that) is super incompetent/don't gib a F. They nerfed Miriam's because of jeewhine braindead whining about it that he corrected himself later, yet they did it anyways. Unironically giving power to jeewhine in the balance by giving a fuck about what he says on his ebin feedback videos he sends to them. Writers were also pretty incompetent. Maybe From is just incompetent now... despite the sales saying otherwise. Hm.
erm none of there can instakill autotrack phantomhit super armor frame1 startup rollcatch multihit unparryable fpless spammable 0/10 you clearly dont know how to
balance ER PVP
jokes aside seeing some of these WA applied to GUGS makes me think they should let some AoW be used on more weapons like
square off with LGS or GS
@@krekkyboy5816 we need an aow that comes out on frame 1, has revolving invulnerability, does a base 3000 damage, creates an instakill aoe that spans all of limgrave, and has zero recovery, that be pretty awesome and i think players would think its really cool!!!!
@@krekkyboy5816 yeah i think spinning strikes should be useable on ugs, judging by how natural it looks demonstrated by this guy ruclips.net/user/shortsCaKeJEiZqLE?si=ODgY6FcQskyLghnX
@@StrugglerVA holyshit he REALLY turns into a helicopter
Imagine how cool that wouldve been