Ocarina of Time Low% MST Speedrun in
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- Опубликовано: 24 июл 2017
- Low% MST rules: Beat the game under normal MST rules (Get all medallions, spiritual stones, and complete Ganon's castle Trials, no RBA or GIM allowed) but with the lowest possible number of items. This means the category involves lots of crazy and difficult tricks in order to skip items.
Low% MST Item list
1.Deku Stick
2.Bottle
3.Bombchus
4.Zelda's Letter
5.Zelda's Lullaby
6.Boomerang
7.Mirror Shield
8.Master Sword
9.Light Arrows
10.Magic
11.Megaton Hammer
12.Bow
13.Quiver
14.Kokiri's Emerald
15.Goron's Ruby
16.Zora's Sapphire
17.Light Medallion
18.Forest Medallion
19.Fire Medallion
20.Water Medallion
21.Shadow Medallion
22.Spirit Medallion
Notable items skipped:
Kokiri Sword
Deku Shield
Hylian Shield
Deku Nuts
Bombs/Bomb bag
Hover Boots
Hookshot
Fire Arrows
This is more of a challenge category than a speedrun category, I'm doing this because I think its a super cool run because of all the amazing tricks in it, and I think you guys will enjoy it too, but this won't be taken too seriously as a speedrun.
If it ever becomes possible to skip another item, all runs with the lower item count would obsolete runs with a higher item count regardless of time. For example, a 10 hour 22 item run would beat a 4 hour 23 item run.
Leaderboards: www.speedrun.com/ootextras#Low
Watch live at / zfg1 Игры
3:07:56 ZFG is so unabashedly confident here, and I love it. He says "I save it because I am so amazing" with no sarcasm or hint of irony... and the thing is he really is absolutely correct. He really is so amazing at this game. I found it interesting because ZFG is usually very humble.
I’m guessing he meant it as a joke but he just has a very dry delivery. He is an amazing OoT speedrunner though.
"I started running this category when it was 23 items"
_Eagerly awaiting impressive new item count_
"And now it''s 22"
_Eh, it's something_
i've seen a gdq for this cat of OOT and you can take as long as you want but you still need low items
I empathize with you so much.
I too, when I was six, couldn't for the life of me find the kokiri sword and spend a whole day exploring the lost woods with just sticks.
Lady Knuckle - "How was your day honey?"
Iron Knuckle - "I got beat up by a 2 ft tall kid with a broken stick..."
He didn't make it home. His wife got a knock at the door.
It's funny cuz it's implied that iron knuckles are actually gerudo, thus they are lady knuckles
@@Cardmaster12 they're lesbians :]
"I still manage to save it cause i'm amazing" that totally was.
*Lord ZFG* you should upload the live commentary version as well (with chat, if possible) for the ones, as myself, that missed the _gg kappa raid_ post PB live hype
(the god himself answered *AND* liked my comment, now i can embrace death with a smile)
▪Moments:
•00:07:30 lol
•00:16:00 NICE
•00:32:25 *NICE*
•00:46:46 must've felt good to do one of your favorite tricks *TWICE* in a run
•00:59:21 duping bottles over non-existing items _twice_ ,what a legend
•01:08:46 action swap magic
•01:15:06 volvagia vs link the fenix
•01:20:03 unexpected time save, neat
•01:23:11 nice trick *AND* thumbnail
•01:34:58 it feels bad man
•01:41:41 a really cool trick indeed
•01:55:38 YOLO strats
•02:07:40 trials shenanigans pt1
•02:09:50 *OMG* my jaw literally dropped after i saw that, never knew about it
•02:18:19 king dodongo with bombchus, epic
•02:25:00 i remember that you streamed the testing of this strat, glad to see it worked out
•02:27:56 awesome speed kill
•02:31:05 *HARDEST TRICK IN THE RUN*
•02:32:40 *MAYOR TIME LOSS* + *GRIND* (skip)
(if you decide to watch it, then, imagine FrankerZFG saying "Dude" "Really" "Oh My God" "Seriously" and "I'm Mad" all the way in for the full experience)
•02:39:10 *_EASIEST TRICK IN THE RUN_*
•02:41:30 most optimal and epic hookshot-less morpha fight
•02:47:42 trials shenanigans pt2
•03:01:19 the cool guy right there
•03:07:37 ZFG in a nutshell
•03:10:08 ganon fight
•03:12:17 finale
•03:13:23 ending
(imagine ZFG pointing out the minor downhills of the run and *RANTING* -massively- due to the +8 minutes time loss at the water temple... lol
▪Knowledge:
•00:09:41 about deku sticks
•00:11:00 about the shallow water
•00:15:34 about the guards
•01:07:20 about the heart containers
•01:16:13 about duped bottled items
•01:22:38 about ISG
•01:40:34 about the sliding wall
(might also add that this is unusual stuff that i've never heard before, even after binge watched most of ZFG's and GDQ's TLOZ - OOT runs, and they amazed me)
I'm sure that i'll be coming back to this video over and over; that's why this comment is being made; actually, you can say that i'm *_setting up_* for later...
I'll show myself out, thank you.
ZFG that'll do it for me, thank you
ZFG thanks dude, hope your internet gods favor you
Ty 4 the comment
I really like your commentaries, your explanations as well as your voice are really nice for them.
His voice sounds Low energy% though.
Blue Bleh you missed the joke
Blue Bleh I love how you managed to gravely insult two groups of people when talking about your narration preferences for speedrunners
Jacob Helou because then he wouldn't be able to drop slurs to make himself feel good
When I see ZFG runs uploaded with that (commentated) banner I know that I'm in for a treat.
Yea, just waiting on that 100% (commentated) run!
Lol this thread though
so many funny things happen when exploiting like this. Link didnt even open the door of time, so we are lead to believe ganondorf also wall-hacked his way into the sacred realm XD
"Thanks for teaching me the trick, bro." -- Ganondorf.
@Solar Pro Nathan are you okay ? was that your first brush with sarcasm ?
Awesome run!
I really like unconventional categories that show what can be done.
New drinking game every time ZFG says "I'm going to do a precise setup here" take a shot. PS. ZFG you are the GOAT on all of these OOT runs. Can't wait for more content
Great vid, great run. Commentary kept it interesting and informative. This category is really fun to watch too! Very well done
Hey ZFG, been watching your videos lately. Im blown away every time. Keep doin work!
Best Zelda speed runner out there! Awesome run, thanks for the vid and all you've done!
no eating noises and phone calls mid commentary 0/10
its recorded after the run tho.
Oliver so is what they're referencing. Look at the zfg video of 10-year-old oot runs. It's the second run featured. Some guy who knew nothing about zelda commentated over a run and he was hilarious. Left to eat and get phone calls a bunch.
@@SuperNintendawg ye JXQ was just chillin and doing his thing.
"Am I drunk?? No I'm commentating!"
No sandwich breaks :(
Really glad you showcased this interesting run! Hope to see more commentating in the future. Keep up the good work! c:
Great commentary I like how you're explaining every step of the way! Helps me understand speed running easier I want to run this game
Thanks for the work you put into this video. Really enjoyed it!
Zfg said to come here for a good time, we will see!
I love all the new tricks. Please keep it up ZFG!
Thanks for this.
It's cool to see the how, but really amazing to hear the why.
Never paid fully attention to the storyline. Now I realize this game is utterly beautiful (every piece of it)
Whenever I see MST, I think of Mystical Space Typhoon.
destroying all my magic cards :(
This was awesome! Thanks for the commentary.
yes awesome I hope you upload more commentated runs here
What I learned from this run, bombchu is love, bombchu is life, jokes aside great run ZFG
"This setup is pretty precise".
Oh you don’t say!
Nice job man. Keep it up!
ZFG brought me here.
It's rare when a speedrun trick helps for casual plays, but that holding Z-track for climbing the spirit temple wall is pretty useful.
it's a shame there's no way to trick the shooting gallery guy into giving you the big quiver without the bow
16:38 looks so messed up and can’t be unseen
At 47:00 this trick is indeed amazing...
ZFG OOT videos in 2017 is
Anyone back to watch this from ZFG's 400IQ highlights video?
this run is such a classic
nice run dude
the commentary. fucking great. its why i love you so much
really amazing video
This is just amazing...
If it was possible to skip bow, would that mean you would come back to forest temple later with light arrows? If I'm not mistaken, you need either hookshot or bow to fight Phantom Ganon's first phase.
Slingshot works too, but that means getting it
This is great. Dont listen to any haters on here ZFG. This is 5 years old, maybe consider trying some more wild and unconventional runs again here:)
This might be an obvious answered question, but I'm a bit out of the loop so I'll ask. Why is this MST instead of All Dungeons? I recall hearing that All Dungeons was considered a better category because it seemed strange to include having to do Ganon's Trials being considered on par to doing the dungeons. So is MST popular again, do you just personally prefer MST, or what exactly?
ZFG is it? Killing Ganon is still listed as one of the requirements on zeldaspeedruns. Have they just not updated the site?
I'd like to know how may hours you put into this game. You're pretty amazing at it.
+ZFG hey zfg this is an awesome run. i really enjoyed it. but i have 2 questions:
1. what happens if you go into the shooting gallery without a bow?could you get a quiver without bow that way?
2. what happens in ganons castle if you shoot a light arrow at coordinates 0,0,0? the rule says you have to dispel the barrier not to complete the trials.
thanks for the lightning fast answer. but i think the problem with 000 is not that its bomb only, i rather think its that you have to hit it precisely which is easy with the blastradius. another problem could be that the hitboxes are not really loaded but rather everything is just at/inside point 000 and therefore can only be hit by stuff that damages an area rather than a specific target. i just checked and in your agdq 100% run you say enemys are stored there. is it verified that its just the enemys or is it just assumed because noone interacted yet with something else at 000? im thinking if they did that with enemys they probably also store other stuff there like the orb thingys you have to shoot with light arrows. sadly i myself dont posses the skills needed to check that out but it might be a route improvement that helps you get back MST WR
I like the thumbnail
01:23:11 there you go
what it changed, it used to be the target shooting guy.
really? how early did you saw the video
1 min after it released.
nice
very precise setup
Is this game new? Seems fun! I'd like to give a try
Celestia Starysio why does sarcasm escape some
supercrapnstuff11 like the forest
Does the new equip glitch change this category in any way?
'Geekery forest' pretty appropriate closed caption.
Fantastic
Wtf are the recommended videos for this one??
"You are not supposed to....but with a precise setup..."
On the shadow temple, why the normal arrow allows the bomb flowers to explode? I thought it was with fire arrows only
1:41:57 I really don't know why but I find this trick hilarious.
If you get the deku shield and it get burned by a keese would it count towards and item, even if it doesn't show up in your start menu when you're done?
Probably yes, i think obtaining the item ticks the box for said item, otherwise duping over items could reduce the ammount of items ticked id say
does the item count decrease since 0 item forest escape was found?
Question about this category:
To some degree, I can understand why you wouldn't count keys in a low% win condition. How come that's not the case for the ocarina, though? Since you already have the ocarina when you utilize the bottle glitch, why don't you just allow people to grab it if they don't want to glitch the use of it?
Note: This comes from the assumption that skipping keys is something that you could do but don't because it doesn't matter. If you couldn't skip the keys then it'd make more sense(ish).
Ocarina is an item that actually shows in your inventory
With that logic you might aswell grab fire arrows since with action swap you can replicate its effect aswell
1:24:23 legit question, though, why can you push the block in fire temple without bracelet, but not the ones in forest temple?
Because oot is nice
26:47 Double blessing Pog
Do shields/tunics still count if they get taken away?
Is there a Run or a Way to Play Oot without ever pressing the B button?
Save the first for last!
-Deku tree
I like how you have to use all bombchus.
Nice
Zfg couldn't you do the deku tree wrong warp to skip light arrows
No, he has to do the trials for the MST ...
I wonder what zfg would've thought back then if he saw what he is currently doing to ocarina of time
WOW I an run this one cause it can be done on gamecube, the only version I have. Are any other categories the same?
Most categories that are fastest on the VC version work the same on GC, just slower because of resets (the one exception being 100%).
are you allowed to RBA items out of your inventory? i mean if that were the case you could jump to the tower collapse and then just RBA your inventory down to almost nothing right?
never mind i didn't read the tooltip saying that RBA was banned
In addition to that, items count when you get them, not whether or not you have them in your inventory at the end. For example, if you get a deku shield and burned it, it would still count as getting deku shield, so you need to avoid getting it at all for the whole run.
3:07:43 "I'm amazing"
Is it a live commentary or is it recorded afterwards?
In water temple, he says "You should skip 8 minutes further".
Why did you savewarp at 2:50:48? I can't believe that's actually faster than walking.
Pretty sure is to get rid of the action swap (I.e deku stick in b)
Curious why the fairies you grabbed in the water temple don't count as items
They don’t because it doesn’t fill in another slot in the menu screen, it just fills in what’s in the bottle, therefore it isn’t an item
I didn't know about the night guards at the stealth area. I might have encountered it once when I was young, but I don't think so. That is really dumb design though. There is no reason why they would be patrolling the water spout unless that area was purposefully designed to be entered into (as evidenced by the block puzzle.
Wow, Fire Temple is really intense in this run.
They block you at night because if you get to the courtyard at night, you can’t meet Zelda!
an ítem upgrade count like another ítem?
For a moment I thought Ruto counted as an item.
I know MST is a more arbitrary category (Trials) but why is RBA banned?
Because then you can RBA Medallions and Stones. However there is a category called MSB (Medallions, Stones, Barrier) which does allow RBA.
The Official NetherBoy thanks!
@@ZantZora coming back to this comment, I think it might be because RBA allows BA, which allows you to skip a ton of items
@@SuperNintendawg Yep.
Does the game not check for water medallion when you get to Ganons castle?
Nope, it only checks for Shadow and Spirit medallions.
Great run just Zelda songs ?
Somebody should reroute this and do a LOTAD - Feb 21st?
Why aren't you buying bombchus earlier in the game and do dodongos cavern earlier?
NotrelGraphics need big wallet to afford bombchus
As a youing kid i always wished for a OOT or a majora with changed damage. I wanted to hit shit more. By the age of 8 i had both games pretty much mastered as a casual. Then i met dark souls. and boy, life sucked but it sucked so good.
Aren't rupees considered as an item?
NUTS
how would u beat bongo with no hookshot or bow?
ISG
Future zfg sent me here
How would a low % glitchless run be like?
It’s weird seeing ZFG not use bombs.
oh.
48:30 for the most impressive trick in the game
Can I get 1 million subs plz 1080 is more difficult but this looks cooler to a casual like me
What does GIM mean?
Get item manipulation
Is gim even used in the run?
This may be a stupid ass question, but dont the fish and the fairy at the beginning technically count as items? Idk, maybe im being too technical
The "got item x-box" gets ticked whenever you obtain an item from one of its intended sources, you got 1 bottle in this run no matter if u duped it over stuff for some time.
And rba'ing is banned in this category
Why does he have the ocarina of time during ZL cutscene
Cutscenes show link having the Ocarina of Time by default if you don't have any ocarina. Just a visual thing.
@@ZFG I forgot you skipped fairy ocarina lmao
TONY STARK DID THIS WITH A DEKU STICK AND A BOTTLE!!!! AS A CHILD!!!!
With all due respect Sir, I’m not Tony Stark
"Link's breathing animation." Jesus Christ, how the fuck is anyone supposed to figure this shit out?
my b-hole could cut through a diamond thread during the volv fight
1
can’t you just do Gannon door and like just ditch a couple items on the way
Late reply but, yes, yes he can but the category is MST Low%, meaning that he has to obtain Medallions, Spiritual Stones and finish the Trials at Ganon's Castle so doing the Wrong Warp would defeat the point of the category
@@ivancillo8797 yea i know that now, thanks haha. forgot about this comment lmao
@@switxyFN hahahaha np, sometimes I see comments with no answer and I feel the need to respond the question
how is any% not the same as low%, they only get like 3 items
Any% gets
-Kokiri Sword
-Deku Shield
-Deku sticks
-Deku nuts
-Bottle
-Kokiri Emerald
-Master Sword
Kokiri sword can be skipped outright, and deku shield and deku nuts can be skipped by getting bombchus from bottom of the well. This leaves
-Deku sticks
-Bottle
-Bombchus
-Kokiri Emerald
-Master Sword
@@ZFG ily zfg thanks for clarifying
3:07:52 I'm amazing lol
If you want to skip the failed megaflip attempts, go to 2:40:18
:)