Great video! I have been looking to do something like this and was stoked to see that you've outlined the entire process! I incorporated this technique into a generative piece that I'll be performing at a festival in early March. Thinking of doing a short video of it beforehand, if I get the time. Took the main concept of melodic slicing and applied a bunch of live resampling on subsequent tracks, so that the first track generates the melody (which I occasionally re-lock to modulate the key, or change the initial sample to provide different instrumentation)... the second track samples and slices that melody... the third one also slices the first one but has a lot more retrigs/glitchy percentage conditions... the fourth one samples the third, and puts it through a comb filter with tuned p-locks to essentially generate harmonies, aaaaaaand then there's two tracks of glitchy sliced breaks, also with conditional trigs. The main samples are all orchestral fairlight cmi samples, so it sounds like an AI trying to write a symphony.
thank you! sounds like you're making good use of your Octatrack and digging deeply into some of the more advanced techniques; I really appreciate you sharing your approach! let me know if you make that video 👍👍
@@maxmarco Its been going well already haha! It's funny, I have used sampling to create scales with slots, and I've used LFOs on slots to trigger random drum hits, but for some reason I never thought of combining those two. It works so well.
awesome! haha, yes! exactly! glad I was able to help connect the dots - it always seems so obvious in retrospect, but really it's not! for example in this vid I wish I had thought to demo assigning the LFO parameters and starting slice to the crossfader to get hands-on with the melodies - maybe that idea will be obvious to some people but certainly not to all
Thinking about diving into the Octatrack soon. Hopefully it will become an essential part of our live performance setup. Your tutorials are a great demonstration of how it would feel to work with it :-)
thank you!! it's a main goal of mine to make my videos have as much clarity as possible and to keep them fairly focused - OT doesn't make that very easy though!! hah! :D
thanks a lot! I think it's important for someone to document some of these things on video, typically these ideas are only discussed deep in bowels of threads on power-user forums like Elektronauts!
Thats funny, last night i was messing around after reading about the MEGABREAK OF DOOM technique and i came to the same idea! But i created my sample chain on ableton using a the scale plugin then bounced it to audio and added it to my OT. I also made a scene control the slice point then i placed a bunch of trigs in my sequence and using the scene xfader i could control and improvise the melody without having to worry about being off scale! It yielded such a good result! Im planning on creating a library of different sounds in a bunch of scales and using them as my composition tools since i cant play keys for the life of me! Will probably share it as well once im done with it!
the real magic is definitely in the preparation! perhaps you have already done this, but also consider making slices of single-cycle waveform chains instead of one-shots (as I did in this video where I use my typical quick-and-dirty approach)
thanks!! a 'send' style of reverb is usually what I'm looking for in most cases like these, where the entirety of the dry signal is always preserved and a reverberated version of that signal is added on top. So I will only set it to 'mix' if I want to remove some or all of the dry signal
Clever !!! You bring out the best from the beast. The trickery and devilry amazing. Thank you for inspiring so many. I think you should come out with a book. “ Occultism in the Octa” 😜😜 since the results are almost angelic from a mere satanic saw 😁.
thank you! hahahah, a thick tome of Octamagic! I re-watched a bit of this video and now I kind of want to re-do it using slices trig mode for increased clarity.... don't know why I didn't think of that... oh well, it's a good technique that's worth re-visiting at some point anyway :D
thank you! octaves are just the easiest 'musical' transposition to get out of a square LFO for demonstration purposes - I could have set it to a depth of like 11 or something for a little while but that wouldn't have been very harmonious to listen to, especially with the delay I put on it, hahaha
@@maxmarco on that note theres another quite common technique to achive similar results in a more "musically pleasing" fashion which is to sample a whole scale (a pentatonic for example) note by note and then slice up the scale. but I think mentioned something like that in the video..
I think your videos on the octatrack are the most inspiring for me! Thank you so much!
Thanks Marco... Your tutorials make me love my octatrack so much more..
thanks dude! it's an amazing instrument, always learning something new about it!
Great video! I have been looking to do something like this and was stoked to see that you've outlined the entire process! I incorporated this technique into a generative piece that I'll be performing at a festival in early March. Thinking of doing a short video of it beforehand, if I get the time. Took the main concept of melodic slicing and applied a bunch of live resampling on subsequent tracks, so that the first track generates the melody (which I occasionally re-lock to modulate the key, or change the initial sample to provide different instrumentation)... the second track samples and slices that melody... the third one also slices the first one but has a lot more retrigs/glitchy percentage conditions... the fourth one samples the third, and puts it through a comb filter with tuned p-locks to essentially generate harmonies, aaaaaaand then there's two tracks of glitchy sliced breaks, also with conditional trigs. The main samples are all orchestral fairlight cmi samples, so it sounds like an AI trying to write a symphony.
thank you! sounds like you're making good use of your Octatrack and digging deeply into some of the more advanced techniques; I really appreciate you sharing your approach! let me know if you make that video 👍👍
Thanks again for another thoughtful and enlightenment tutorial.....
Great instructional video.
Thanks for sharing this technique!
my pleasure, thanks for watching! hopefully you can use it to make some beautiful (or very ugly, if that's your thing!) music :) :)
@@maxmarco Its been going well already haha!
It's funny, I have used sampling to create scales with slots, and I've used LFOs on slots to trigger random drum hits, but for some reason I never thought of combining those two. It works so well.
awesome! haha, yes! exactly! glad I was able to help connect the dots - it always seems so obvious in retrospect, but really it's not! for example in this vid I wish I had thought to demo assigning the LFO parameters and starting slice to the crossfader to get hands-on with the melodies - maybe that idea will be obvious to some people but certainly not to all
Thinking about diving into the Octatrack soon. Hopefully it will become an essential part of our live performance setup. Your tutorials are a great demonstration of how it would feel to work with it :-)
thank you!! it's a main goal of mine to make my videos have as much clarity as possible and to keep them fairly focused - OT doesn't make that very easy though!! hah! :D
Damn you set me back a 1000$ now I want one
This is great! thanks for sharing.
thanks a lot! I think it's important for someone to document some of these things on video, typically these ideas are only discussed deep in bowels of threads on power-user forums like Elektronauts!
Thats funny, last night i was messing around after reading about the MEGABREAK OF DOOM technique and i came to the same idea! But i created my sample chain on ableton using a the scale plugin then bounced it to audio and added it to my OT. I also made a scene control the slice point then i placed a bunch of trigs in my sequence and using the scene xfader i could control and improvise the melody without having to worry about being off scale! It yielded such a good result! Im planning on creating a library of different sounds in a bunch of scales and using them as my composition tools since i cant play keys for the life of me!
Will probably share it as well once im done with it!
the real magic is definitely in the preparation! perhaps you have already done this, but also consider making slices of single-cycle waveform chains instead of one-shots (as I did in this video where I use my typical quick-and-dirty approach)
max marco haven’t tried it last night (only did one shot of a stock ableton bass plug in) but yeah will definitely try that too 🙂
Awesome tutorial! Noob here: Why exactly do you change the reverb from mix to send?
thanks!! a 'send' style of reverb is usually what I'm looking for in most cases like these, where the entirety of the dry signal is always preserved and a reverberated version of that signal is added on top. So I will only set it to 'mix' if I want to remove some or all of the dry signal
1:00 you're not lazy if you figured out using the Octatrack.
Started out with mine three weeks ago, in a few months if I can make a tune-I want a medal
great tutorials.
thank you! this one took a few tries to get footage I was willing to edit! 😂
Clever !!!
You bring out the best from the beast. The trickery and devilry amazing.
Thank you for inspiring so many.
I think you should come out with a book. “ Occultism in the Octa” 😜😜 since the results are almost angelic from a mere satanic saw 😁.
thank you! hahahah, a thick tome of Octamagic! I re-watched a bit of this video and now I kind of want to re-do it using slices trig mode for increased clarity.... don't know why I didn't think of that... oh well, it's a good technique that's worth re-visiting at some point anyway :D
You are like a segment of Reading Rainbow
hah! first time I've heard that comparison - Bob Ross is a more frequent one
max come back
octaves are boring imo.. great video nevertheless!
thank you! octaves are just the easiest 'musical' transposition to get out of a square LFO for demonstration purposes - I could have set it to a depth of like 11 or something for a little while but that wouldn't have been very harmonious to listen to, especially with the delay I put on it, hahaha
@@maxmarco on that note theres another quite common technique to achive similar results in a more "musically pleasing" fashion which is to sample a whole scale (a pentatonic for example) note by note and then slice up the scale. but I think mentioned something like that in the video..
in this video I start off by slicing a minor scale I create through re-sampling
where is the video he mentioned 10 seconds in?