Elektron gear is like that- some frustration but once you figure it out, the ultimate beat making box. The Analog 4 is very easy to learn compared to the Octatrack.
hey thanks a lot, and thanks for watching! There is always tons more to learn and practice when it comes to Octatrack, even just making this video leveled me up a little bit more, planning to film more production sessions like this in the future, it was a very good learning experience Re: scenes - Scenes can't control the mute state of a track, just the different volume/track level params - I think maybe the scenes in my project just control so many different tracks at once that it's a bit confusing when I press the scene button as it lights up a lot of stuff to show where all the parameter changes are. Additionally, the use of neighbor tracks that appear to be muted but are not makes this a little more visually confusing. In general for 'breakdown' or 'reduction' scenes I tend to primarily use filters to cut away elements, but sometimes I map the VOL parameter to scenes to mute tracks pre-FX. The video I published yesterday goes over how I used the scenes for this production in a little bit more detail, and I also solo all the tracks while doing various performance gestures to show how they are transformed - ruclips.net/video/6ZLK4k98V58/видео.html
thats a lot, nice looking over the shoulder ... slowly seeing patterns how you aproceh sound design , helped that I worked through the "no sample needed" video several times. so good education
awesome! I definitely view my videos as a collection that works together, and in every video where it makes sense I like to sprinkle in a range of concepts from simple to advanced - even very experienced Octatrack users can easily forget (or just have never known in the first place) useful features or ways of approaching things, and less experienced users get a taste of the possibilities, which hopefully encourages more hands-on time with the machine
@@maxmarco but the final track is to complicated for my brain... maybe its just because I am an older guy (60) my brain can't handel so much information
hah! that's awesome!! I just make whatever music comes out naturally at the time and try not too think too hard on it - this footage was the very first take of me ever touching any of these samples so it is a very authentic view into an actual music production process. I used to listen to tons of jazz/fusion/math metal and lots of complex and strange experimental music so those influences tend to surface in my work pretty often. The next track I'm going to publish (hopefully Friday) I think is fairly straight-ahead in comparison to this one though, so I am very curious now to see if you will think so also :) :) :)
Amazing really...very elegant. Can you do this with another sampler sequencer say an MPC1000?(...which I have). Is the Octatrack so hard to learn as the say?
thanks, the Octatrack is a very cool machine! I really don't know what's possible on MPC devices, I've never used one and I don't really know much about their capabilities - the only hardware samplers I owned before the Octatrack were my Eurorack samplers. Octatrack basics are pretty easy to learn in my opinion, but there are a lot of tricky idiosyncrasies and to really get comfortable and master it takes time and dedication similar to, or perhaps surpassing that of traditional instruments due to its dual nature as a performative sampling instrument and sample-based music production center. Kind of like a bastardized DAW+controller combo where you have to learn it using only keyboard shortcuts from the very beginning. It also requires a certain level of abstract thinking - I don't know too many pieces of hardware where I would use the term 'data model' in regular conversation to help illuminate the basic structure and layout...
max marco thanks ....that sounded complex already. Guess gonna keep on checking some tutorials on the OT, very expensive as well by the way... Maybe just stick to my MPC and try to get the most out of it Cheers and keep those tutorials coming, great content
hahaha, it's really not that bad! Mk1 octatrack used is a really good deal, and you could always sell and upgrade if you decide you love it - personally I prefer look and feel of mk1 units though
I had a MPC1000 and it's really different worlds. You just need to try, keep the manual not far and watch nice videos like this afterwards, having your brain 100% ready ( no smoking weed ), be patient and you will finally discover the beast.
setting the buffers to 24-bit will lower the total amount of recording time available substantially - off the top of my head you'll get almost 9 minutes recording time at 16-bit, but at 24-bit it's about 5 minutes 30 seconds. I generally have the Octatrack set for 24-bit operation
hey thanks man! was hoping you'd see this vid, I think it subtly touches on some of the things we've talked about. It's also worth noting that there's no 'alternate take' of this first production session, I wanted it to come out just however it was going to come out - acceptance, shedding unnecessary attachments, focus on the process, and all that jazz :) cheers!
So good. At about 12:40 when you play in chromatic mode.... I’ve “live recorded” the same way but it changes the way I played it. Records it more...”robotic.” It takes away the swing of how I played it. I even went to some menu and “unquantized” something or other. Why does this happen ?
thank you! turning 'quantize live recording' off doesn't technically turn off quantize, it just switches from quantizing at a resolution of 1 step to quantizing at a resolution of 1/384th of a step, which is the maximum resolution - the Octatrack step sequencer fundamentally lacks the capability to capture all the timing nuances of human-produced rhythms
hey thank you! I don't remember too well at this point and would have to dig up the project to know for sure, but I did a breakdown video for this track that may be helpful - ruclips.net/video/6ZLK4k98V58/видео.html
hey max marco great video! i got a question , i have a windows laptop and wanted to import samples to my octatrack , can you teach me how to do that with the sd card?
thanks! it's easy :) - just turn on OT, plug USB to your computer, go to project menu, and enter USB disk mode - once you do that then the OT is just acting as a card reader for your computer and is easy to put files wherever you want on OT compact flash card
A few different reasons, first, it's primarily because I don't have a default template for Octatrack projects - this is just how I work when I am using this type of pre-made sample pack and is only one specific workflow example. If I want to re-use an old project as a template I can always just load it up and save a new copy to start messing with (but I almost never do). Second, and more importantly in my mind, I strongly advocate and follow a general practice of setting up projects from default every time as an exercise in cementing and retaining thorough knowledge of Octatrack settings and features. Third, this is a walkthrough video after all :) Thanks for watching! cheers!
UPDATE: CHECK OUT FINAL TRACK HERE ->>> ruclips.net/video/QniRt2KFqUs/видео.html
After having one of those “want to throw my Octatrack against the wall” kind of weeks, this video is giving me life.
Elektron gear is like that- some frustration but once you figure it out, the ultimate beat making box. The Analog 4 is very easy to learn compared to the Octatrack.
thanks! setting the neighbor track to a different pattern length for interesting fx blew my mind. Never considered doing that before today :)
awesome mm, you're one of the best on that box... Octatrack!
Great ideas in here, very inspiring. I love how much you get out of one noisy sample. Thanks for this!
You make incredible content. Just what I was looking for!
excellent eye opening mind expanding
I was actually beginning to feel confident about my octatrack skills.. (b4 I watched).
Great video!
Are your scenes also manipulating mutes on and off?
hey thanks a lot, and thanks for watching! There is always tons more to learn and practice when it comes to Octatrack, even just making this video leveled me up a little bit more, planning to film more production sessions like this in the future, it was a very good learning experience
Re: scenes - Scenes can't control the mute state of a track, just the different volume/track level params - I think maybe the scenes in my project just control so many different tracks at once that it's a bit confusing when I press the scene button as it lights up a lot of stuff to show where all the parameter changes are. Additionally, the use of neighbor tracks that appear to be muted but are not makes this a little more visually confusing. In general for 'breakdown' or 'reduction' scenes I tend to primarily use filters to cut away elements, but sometimes I map the VOL parameter to scenes to mute tracks pre-FX. The video I published yesterday goes over how I used the scenes for this production in a little bit more detail, and I also solo all the tracks while doing various performance gestures to show how they are transformed - ruclips.net/video/6ZLK4k98V58/видео.html
Nice, ill be re watching and further analyzing some of the techniques. Also, looking forward to more of these videos, very informative.
Thanks !
thats a lot, nice looking over the shoulder ... slowly seeing patterns how you aproceh sound design , helped that I worked through the "no sample needed" video several times. so good education
awesome! I definitely view my videos as a collection that works together, and in every video where it makes sense I like to sprinkle in a range of concepts from simple to advanced - even very experienced Octatrack users can easily forget (or just have never known in the first place) useful features or ways of approaching things, and less experienced users get a taste of the possibilities, which hopefully encourages more hands-on time with the machine
@@maxmarco but the final track is to complicated for my brain... maybe its just because I am an older guy (60) my brain can't handel so much information
hah! that's awesome!! I just make whatever music comes out naturally at the time and try not too think too hard on it - this footage was the very first take of me ever touching any of these samples so it is a very authentic view into an actual music production process. I used to listen to tons of jazz/fusion/math metal and lots of complex and strange experimental music so those influences tend to surface in my work pretty often. The next track I'm going to publish (hopefully Friday) I think is fairly straight-ahead in comparison to this one though, so I am very curious now to see if you will think so also :) :) :)
You have a real talent for this. Big fan keep it up!
Such a dope groove. Reminds me of POLE's "Steingarten".
love your production sessions videos so helpful
thanks man! has been a while since I've done one in this format, would be good to do another soon
@@maxmarco that would be awesomeeee :-)
Hi max marco,
very impressive many thanks for the good explanation. that brings me back the machine a bit closer.
thank you, that's great to hear!
Turned out sick!!
thank you!!
moving like an octopus on the Octatrack foreal
11:35 Donald Duck stomping skulls 😍
Re-context-uralization 👌
tremendous video. thanks. trying to translate this OT mk1 to my new baby -- mk2.
sell it and get an mk1 and buy a cycles :)
@@olivia-surenwhitaker5223 Haha, thats exactly what I did a few months ago!
what a track
Amazing really...very elegant. Can you do this with another sampler sequencer say an MPC1000?(...which I have). Is the Octatrack so hard to learn as the say?
thanks, the Octatrack is a very cool machine! I really don't know what's possible on MPC devices, I've never used one and I don't really know much about their capabilities - the only hardware samplers I owned before the Octatrack were my Eurorack samplers. Octatrack basics are pretty easy to learn in my opinion, but there are a lot of tricky idiosyncrasies and to really get comfortable and master it takes time and dedication similar to, or perhaps surpassing that of traditional instruments due to its dual nature as a performative sampling instrument and sample-based music production center. Kind of like a bastardized DAW+controller combo where you have to learn it using only keyboard shortcuts from the very beginning. It also requires a certain level of abstract thinking - I don't know too many pieces of hardware where I would use the term 'data model' in regular conversation to help illuminate the basic structure and layout...
max marco thanks ....that sounded complex already. Guess gonna keep on checking some tutorials on the OT, very expensive as well by the way... Maybe just stick to my MPC and try to get the most out of it
Cheers and keep those tutorials coming, great content
hahaha, it's really not that bad! Mk1 octatrack used is a really good deal, and you could always sell and upgrade if you decide you love it - personally I prefer look and feel of mk1 units though
I had a MPC1000 and it's really different worlds. You just need to try, keep the manual not far and watch nice videos like this afterwards, having your brain 100% ready ( no smoking weed ), be patient and you will finally discover the beast.
What’s the difference between 16 to 24 bit on the recording buffers?
setting the buffers to 24-bit will lower the total amount of recording time available substantially - off the top of my head you'll get almost 9 minutes recording time at 16-bit, but at 24-bit it's about 5 minutes 30 seconds. I generally have the Octatrack set for 24-bit operation
max marco 9 minutes total? Or per track or...?
Does it sound better at 24?
9 minutes total. Octatrack or not, 24-bit always sounds better than 16-bit
Awesome!!!!
thanks much for the appreciation! will try to make some more vids like this in the future :)
Tasty evolution
hey thanks man! was hoping you'd see this vid, I think it subtly touches on some of the things we've talked about. It's also worth noting that there's no 'alternate take' of this first production session, I wanted it to come out just however it was going to come out - acceptance, shedding unnecessary attachments, focus on the process, and all that jazz :) cheers!
Autechre vibe
So good. At about 12:40 when you play in chromatic mode.... I’ve “live recorded” the same way but it changes the way I played it. Records it more...”robotic.” It takes away the swing of how I played it. I even went to some menu and “unquantized” something or other. Why does this happen ?
thank you! turning 'quantize live recording' off doesn't technically turn off quantize, it just switches from quantizing at a resolution of 1 step to quantizing at a resolution of 1/384th of a step, which is the maximum resolution - the Octatrack step sequencer fundamentally lacks the capability to capture all the timing nuances of human-produced rhythms
max marco Strange. I managed to accomplish that a couple of times and never did quite get back there.
AMAZING TRACK!!
Can you tell me what kind of effects you put on Scene B? Sounds sick...
hey thank you! I don't remember too well at this point and would have to dig up the project to know for sure, but I did a breakdown video for this track that may be helpful - ruclips.net/video/6ZLK4k98V58/видео.html
hey max marco great video! i got a question , i have a windows laptop and wanted to import samples to my octatrack , can you teach me how to do that with the sd card?
thanks! it's easy :) - just turn on OT, plug USB to your computer, go to project menu, and enter USB disk mode - once you do that then the OT is just acting as a card reader for your computer and is easy to put files wherever you want on OT compact flash card
I wonder why you don't set up a project with your own default global settings to initially copy from ...
A few different reasons, first, it's primarily because I don't have a default template for Octatrack projects - this is just how I work when I am using this type of pre-made sample pack and is only one specific workflow example. If I want to re-use an old project as a template I can always just load it up and save a new copy to start messing with (but I almost never do). Second, and more importantly in my mind, I strongly advocate and follow a general practice of setting up projects from default every time as an exercise in cementing and retaining thorough knowledge of Octatrack settings and features. Third, this is a walkthrough video after all :) Thanks for watching! cheers!
Niiice
thanks! definitely planning to produce more of these in the future
capo.
Technical Skillz : Perfect !
Musical Knowledge : Failed !
What Kind of Music is this....ScenebasedGlitchTerrorSnippets ?