FYI, we did a gimbal firmware update after this video was done and were eventually able to get the native iPhone camera to connect via Bluetooth, so now we CAN do a simple start/stop which is nice (although we don't use the native app that often). Exploring whether this will work in other apps, too!
That would be over the recommended weight of 260g, so probably not your best choice. The XS Max is 200g range alone. That lens is over 100g. Would probably look at Crane M2 or new MOZA Mini-P or FeiyuTech G6 Max.
Thanks for this overview of the retail version of the Smooth Q2. I was concerned mostly about the phone holder and how it can secure phones with a case but it looks like it can handle cases just fine.
Hey Blake! Great video as usual! Question, I’m using an iPhone X with a moment wide lens. Will this gimbal support that or will I need a counterweight?
Haven’t tested with lenses, but it should hold that amount of weight. But, you would likely need a counterweight as that Moment lens is pretty big. Thanks for watching!
Great vid! Question, when shooting a panorama photo, do I need to attach a tripod or will it be stable without it ? Because I did it once and it was stable, but after that, it went crazy on me and fell.
You normally don’t have to in our experience. But sometimes if you pan or tilt to far the motors can give and cause crazy vibrations. Securing the phone is never a bad idea.
I have the original Smooth Q. Would you say that it is worth upgrading? One benefit I can see with this new one is the lightening port isn’t obstructed like the original.
will this handle iPhone XS Max + Moment lenses (wide) + ND filter? Would I need to use a counterweight? Also its a bummer it doesn't work with filmicpro app but otherwise this looks really good. I was gonna get Osmo Mobile 3 but this might be better...
Just bought one, at start up the gimbal shut down quite a few times even with a full charge, then it went dead, I I connected it again to power supply and it restarted, I tried it again and it seems to be ok now, but I've noticed if the phone touches to motor the gimbal packs a sad and has to be re-set, maybe it's operator error althogh I had the original smooth Q and had no issues at all apart from drowning it in salt water.....anyway only had the 2 for a few hours so will give it a good play over next few days. Subscribed mate, always keen to learn more about film making with the smart phone and improve my wee channel.
Paul Taylor Photography I was having the same issues... I really want to like this gimbal and I do but it’s too much to think about with how to hold it and when to turn it and so many little things. I’ve had it for a week now and it’s still not any better, I’m not really that much of an idiot lol. But I’ll give it a couple more days and if I don’t feel more comfortable with it I’ll be returning it and trying out the Benro 3xS.
Paul Taylor Photography Yea I’ve found it do that as well... plus the knob for the joystick has come off twice. It’s too unstable for me right now. It’s a great idea just needs a bit more fine tuning to be ready, I think.
question: is Zhiyun Smooth Q2 Gimbal a good choice for Samsung note 9 and what about the shadow which appear because of the edge the Zhiyun Smooth Q2 Gimbal is it same for note 9?
Really all these gimbals are similar in that regard. Some just take more practice than others. Would say this one might take a little more practice than the Osmo variety. And it just depends on experience and skill level. Thanks for watching!
I had a smooth 4 which was excellent but developed a fault so I’ve sent it back. I am now looking at the Q2 because it is so much more compact. Two queries. First how easy is it to quickly decide to record slo mo? The 4 was down to two buttons record or camera after selecting slo on the app. Also why is there no mini tripod? You show one in use but just have a passing caption mention this. I presume there is a thread on the handles base to accommodate a tripod but it’s another £19.
Yeah it doesn’t come with a tripod. We don’t use the gimbal app ourselves so not really familiar with that record control aspect, but seems pretty straight forward.
El estabilizador smooth Q2 es de buena calidad pero tiene varios defectos graves: - Si lo pones en vertical se ve el motor y te fastidia la toma, por lo que hay que usarlo siempre en ángulo de 45 grados - No tiene botones para controlar el zoom ni el joystick tampoco vale para eso - No tiene modo follow me (lo pones con el trípode y te sigue) o al menos yo no lo he encontrado Me arrepiento de haber confiado que al ser mas caro que el que tenía en mente (el Hohem iSteady X) iba a ser mejor, pero en este caso el más barato si llevaba todo lo que este carece
Can you add a decent microphone + deadcat wind shield to an iPhone 11 Pro Max and still balance and stay inside the weight limit? I ask this because bad sound in windy conditions plagues my iPhone video recordings. Because of how the Osmo Mobile 3 starts up, you can’t have anything sticking out the end of your phone.
Totally subjective call. The Smooth 4 works very well. It has a lower payload capacity though and no joystick. So just depends on your phone and preference.
Totally subjective call. The Smooth 4 works very well. It has a lower payload capacity though and no joystick. So just depends on your phone and preference.
Thanks for the first impressions!!! Will all of the buttons of the Q2 work with the FiLmicPro app? For example will the start button on the gimbal start the filming or would I have to press the start button on the app?
It’s not currently supported by FP (maybe it will be though), but we need to test the simple Bluetooth option with third-party apps and see if it does - will report back if it works. 😃
A Question : in Filmic Pro / Hardware setting it’s only got Zhiyun Smooth 4 does this mean the Q2 will work in that setting or, are we waiting for Filmic Pro to update with a new input for the Q2?
I just wrote to the Filmic Pro Support and this is their answer: "At this time we do not have custom support for the Zhiyun Smooth Q2 or Feiyu Vlog Pocket in FilMiC Pro. I will pass your requests on to our product manager for consideration as they plan out the future development of FiLMiC Pro! For now, it's possible that you may be able to get the start/stop button working on these gimbals, but as I don't have either of them to test on I can't confirm that it will work. To do so, follow these steps: 1.) Turn on your gimbal. 2.) In your System Settings, select Bluetooth and connect to the gimbal. 3.) In FiLMiC Pro's Settings > Device, scroll all the way to the bottom and toggle "Volume Keys Trigger Recording" ON. Once you've done this, you may be able to use the record button to start/stop recording. Like I said I don't have either of these units to test on so I can't confirm that it will work, but this is how we enable Bluetooth shutter remotes to work so it frequently works with unsupported gimbals as well. Please let me know if you have additional questions and I will be happy to assist!"
Awesome video again. How did you "conform" to 24 FPS? Also, can I just shoot in 120 FPS, slow it down to 80% (96FPS) in post and then render in 24FPS? Hope to get your opinion on that. Thank you.
Thanks! Here just did the conform within FiLMiC Pro. You can set the app to do it and you have automatic slow motion without having to do it in post. Otherwise you just conform in whatever editing app you’re using and in this case 120fps it would be a 20% slow-motion look. You could try what you’re suggesting however think it would be stuttery. With FiLMiC Pro you can shoot at 96FPS and conform in to 24P if you want.
The lighter ones like the anamorphic work, but heavier ones haven’t tried - and don’t think it would do well - unless with smaller phone and/or maybe a counterweight.
With a smaller phone yes it will. The larger phones that would be pushing it, but filters should be ok. We typically use universal counterweights, when needed.
Watch our previous video. :) Using the Ultra Wide lens (which actually has no OIS) for short movement it’s good... For longer takes we’d stick to a gimbal if you want really smooth footage. Of course with the other two lenses it’s gimbal all the way.
Another great video, 2 things though. First I’d like to see it in 4K if possible and also using the iOS native camera app, since the new Apple “Cinematic Stabilization” is way better than FilMics Pro. Thanks!
Thanks! We upload in 4K sometimes, but more often we don’t unless were focusing more on the image quality. Here it was mainly about stabilization, but we do upload 4K some. We’ve actually tested and the stabilization we’re finding is pretty much identical between the two apps. Will be posting that soon. :)
Blake, again thank you for your time and review. I am very impressed with this Zhiyun Smooth Q2 Gimbal as al Real Estate Videographer. I currently have and use the Zhiyun full frame/mirror less camera body gimbal, so the build quality is very impressive and familiar. That said, I use camera lights on my rig and I am having a hard time working out how to use the Zhiyun Smooth Q2 Gimbal holding it in a flashlight position with a tee handle and mounted lights. This Zhiyun, you have clearly documented does have issues with the gimbal in your shot using the I phone 11 pro max wide angle lens. I think I am leaning to the Feiyu VLOG Pocket Handheld Gimbal which you also reviewed in an earlier video and does not present this problem. Question what was your impression of the motor on the Feiyu? Again thank you for your time and input, Great presentation. Mark
The Vlog pocket is surprisingly robust. However, wouldn’t use that one with any additional accessories really. It’s just too small. It’s a great option for travel and portability. To hold more weight you might look at the FeiyuTech G6 Max. That might be the best gimbal in that class. There’s a review video in the gimbal playlist on our channel. Thanks for watching!
@@iphoneographers Blake, thanks for the quick response, Impressive, really. Thank you. I will explore the FeigyuTechG6. Just to clarify, I have no intentions of putting lights on the gimbal motors and mounts only on the rig that accompanies it. This is a configuration I am trying to build and similar to what I do now with a Canon 5d Mark lV. So, I was wondering do you know if the Zhiyun Crane 2 gimbal body mentioned above , has the same diameter circumference as the as the Zhiyun Smooth Q2 gimbal body? If so, I think I have solved my challenge as I can mount the Smooth Q2 into the dual handle center mount ( Crane-EH002) for made to handle the Crane 2 circumference. If it is the same I can then mount the smooth 2 in a horizontal flash light configuration and use the t handle grips for the lights. Hope you can picture this by my description I was unable to get this info thus far but will call the company tomorrow. Anyway thank you again. Sincerely, Mark Sands
@@iphoneographers PS - if you are curious. The Crane 2 does not work with the I phone, it is to light and confuses the motors - I tried, thus I am now in the market for a I phone gimbal. Best, Mark
Haven’t tried, but it should work with PolarPro as it’s a pretty light setup and especially with the 11 Pro. Anamorphic would depend. Moment one with Thin case should be fine. Heavier setups not advisable.
Very helpful!! I just got the Q2 and am using it with my 11 Pro Max, so was very interested in how to shoot with the wide angle lens. Like you said, the flashlight mode is the way. However, I only have the ZY app. Big question: how do you turn on the wide angle lens from within the ZY app? Would really appreciate your help with this!!
Last we looked at that app it wasn’t supported yet, but would be surprised if it wasn’t now. We use Filmic Pro primarily. And actually trying to connect to the ZY app right now to check for you and it’s not working. Will let you know when we figure it out.
my vortex mode with iPhone 11 pro max is shaky. i spoke with their support and their reply was that the video i send them is fine. i don't see it fine as i see the motors getting weak by vibrating
Might be a balancing issue or there’s too much weight if your case is too heavy or are using a third-party lens? It shouldn’t vibrate as that is possibly straining the motors (or they’re out of sync if the balance is off).
Can Smooth Q2 hold Pixel 3XL with Otterbox case? I don't like to take off my phone's case every time I want to use the gimbal. Does the phone clip fits my phone with its case?
Have not tested that setup but my feeling is it would be a struggle. Typically OtterBox cases are not great on gimbals in our experience. Too bulky. And this gimbal only holds 260g. So it does not hold a lot of weight TBH. You might look at FeiyuTech G6 Max or the Moza Mini-P as those will hold pretty much anything phone related you can throw at it.
Hi. I'm a beginner. I'm interested in your FiLMic Pro class + Cinematography 101 bundle. I ordered the SmoothQ2 - waiting for it to arrive. Is it worth taking the FiLMic Pro class if the Q2 is not supported by FP? Can I use FiLMic Pro with the Q2 even if they are not compatible?
Darn it. I’m third. I must be slipping with my favorite channel! Sorry Blake. Next time I’ll pull over the car and come out and give you a thumbs up immediately. I would not wanna lose my fan club membership!
Hello. I intend to do my best with investments that are not so representative. The best return on the little money available. I have an iPhone 7 plus, an iPad Pro 10.5 LumaFusion and FilmicPro. I must look for the sound and lighting the best options, but for now the sun and the microphones of the devices must support my productions...The question for you: What do you recommend between a ZhiyumQ2 and a mobile DJI osmo 3. I had my attention on the Q2 but the bluetooth connection and I don't know if being forced to work in flashlight mode is a disadvantage. My son has an iPhone 11 ProMax which I can use in ultra wide lens. What do you recommend?
Great video! However, at 2:07 the Smooth Q2 isn't fully folded down which makes is considerably smaller than the Crane M2 .. you redeem yourself at 7:27 though, haha! Very informative video, thanks!
I have the Osmo + that just broke and took my iPod touch with it. I was thinking of going Osmo Pocket, but frankly 100 mbps still seems limited. I was thinking of a iPhone 11 or 11 Pro/max and a gimbal like this to use with my FilmicPro app that I purchased last year. So far what modern iphone and gimbal is your top choice for a phone gimbal combination? I wold like to be able to use the ultra wide camera in flashlight mode like you did here.. also looking for an extension, so I can walk along and record footage at 3-6” off of the ground surrounded by feral cats in a colony for a project. The Osmo + was a good perspective, but handle broke while on the end of the baton extension. This gimbal looks well made and has a 1/3 or 1/4 tripod mount? Are there good extensions say 3 or 4 feet long.. preferably aluminum or metal as well for stability? Does not need to be collapsible.. prefer if it didn’t really. Especially when you have a $1,000 phone hanging on the end of it.
This is a nice gimbal option and it’s definitely a professional-grade build, so it will hold up to wear and tear. One combo I keep going back to is the iPhone 11 Pro (or Max) and the Osmo Mobile 3. They work well together and are lightweight and easy to use. You could mount it on a monopod too. The gimbal is plastic versus this one being aluminum, but it’s still solid. Currently Filmic Pro doesn’t support it yet, but believe they will in the future. If you want to add accessories though like lenses etc. you should look at the Zhiyun M2 or the FeiyuTech G6 Max. Sturdier options that will hold more weight.
I just bought 1, and I’m a complete beginner. Thanks for the review! One of the best reviews I have watched. Now it make sense to me! Only bummer about this gimbal, if you have a thick phone case (I have Mous case), it won’t grip it tightly. So you have to remove your case or use a thinner case.
Im a total noob here, hopefully someone could help me out with a question i have on the q2...do you need to use the zhiyun app to be able to use the pan follow mode or would we be able to use that mode even in the native app?
I saw a review from a gimbal pro in China, he said that 75% chance you won't have trouble in ultra-wide. this Q2 is a bit heavy due to the metal made body, but I like it
In our test here we found it’s more like a 100% chance. :) Probably depends on which phone you’re using. It is a tad bit heavier than plastic gimbals, but the build quality is stellar.
@@iphoneographers Oh, I see. I am sure, you'll like it. It's pretty smooth and the servo gear looks pretty flat to be captured by the lens. But my deepest disappointment was the high-frequency noise in the sound path of the external microphone caused by interference from the servos.... Most probably they didn't manage with shielding wires. I am looking forward to seeing your review!
The linked ones are for phones or cameras, not gimbals per se if that’s what you’re referring to... Although they do work well. The one holding the Q2 is by Pergear and it’s new to us. Believe this is the one... www.amazon.com/dp/B072JW7PWX/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_K.2TDbC8SSK55
I know you were the biggest fan of DJI’s latest mini smartphone gimbal, but... I do wonder what DJI newest does with the iPhone 11 Pro Max’s ultra wide angle???🤔
iPhoneographers, Blake I just watched another video that was... Well, the motor in the DJI overheats when paired with the heavier phone and moment lens, thus overheating the iPhone and shutting down Filmic. Soooo... there may be that too. I’d like to see your views on everything I discussed when you have time.
i used filmic pro apps , i can't shoot video with the button on zhiyun smooth q , on filmic pro device not choice for zhiyun smooth q . you have solution for that . just shoot by tap on display ?
@iPhoneographers Does this gimbal work well with an iPhone 11 Pro Max with Moment filmmakers case and Moondog anamorphic bayonet lens? Also with an ND filter attached? Thanks!
Haven’t tested that setup because we still don’t have our Moment case! Grrrr. But definitely something on the to do list. It should do fine with lens, but the ND mount might be pushing it weight wise.
All these gimbals coming out are nice but they have 2 downfalls. 1. If I pay $1000 for a device I want the “good” case to stay on. 2. Most of them don’t have motors strong enough for the Note 10+ 😄
why does the footage look so horrible ? It doesnt look 1080p at all, is it the youtube compression ? I was tempted to switch away from the sony alpha to some more portable phone footage, at least in broad daylight, but this makes me slightly concerned..
I love Filmic Pro. But when I use the Wide rear camera on my 11ProMax, the native App does a much better job with Dynamic Range. It's not even close. The darn native software does some magic with shadows and bright skies that I cant even get close to on Filmic Pro. This is with using the Flat or Log Profile, and really working in Resolve to nail exposure and dynamic range in post. The native app just looks better. I get the bit rate and full control argument - etc. But the dynamic range image from the native app is just hands down better.
That’s interesting. We did a video showing just the opposite using LogV2... ruclips.net/video/ikjQMdRMOEU/видео.html. Will do another comparison with the iPhone 11, but everything we’ve seen thus far is the same. Thanks for watching!
For Ultra Wide lens use would say that’s true. Although flashlight mode is actually good for smoothing out the Z axis movement too, so tend to use it pretty often.
3:28 those moment case for the iphone x onwards are wack stupid. Quality and they are ripping apart unlike the moment for the iphone 7 really well built
I’m looking for a gimbal that doesn’t get in the way no matter how it’s held when I’m using the wide angle lens on my new iPhone 11 Pro. Is there such an animal?
It's probably just me but I think that footage from FilmicPro gets worse and worse for each new iPhone model compared to the native app. Or perhaps is the native apps color science just getting better. The video shot in this video with FilmicPro really doesn't look good at all. But nice, simple review.
The native app is ok in sunlight, but really no where else as it’s bit rate is so low and it turns to mud very quickly. So we always recommend any third-party app over it. What don’t you like about FP? The footage here is just test stuff, but the lake shots we quite like. Thanks for watching!
@@iphoneographers I've owned iPhone 11 Pro Max for a few weeks now. And each time I compare my shots from the native app with other apps, it's like the image is cleaner, the colors are better out-of-the-box and it doesn't have this mushy look to it. Your video is only uploaded in 1080p (or at least not rendered in 4K yet by RUclips), but as it is now none of the video material done by the iPhone is very impressing. It just looks...dull and it does looks like it's missing a frame here and there! Spec vise FilmicPro is a clear winner. Just can't see it in action. And I've lost some important shots by relying on FilmicPro, which would make it hard to recommend for anything that can't be reshot. You should try making a comparison between third-party apps and the iPhone 11 Pros native app.
FYI, we did a gimbal firmware update after this video was done and were eventually able to get the native iPhone camera to connect via Bluetooth, so now we CAN do a simple start/stop which is nice (although we don't use the native app that often). Exploring whether this will work in other apps, too!
Great video! Do any of the Filmic Pro features work with it?
Great! Can you use your moment 18mm wide lens in this gimbal w/ iphone xs max?
That would be over the recommended weight of 260g, so probably not your best choice. The XS Max is 200g range alone. That lens is over 100g. Would probably look at Crane M2 or new MOZA Mini-P or FeiyuTech G6 Max.
Thanks for sharing, which app u getting a music from?
Thanks for this overview of the retail version of the Smooth Q2. I was concerned mostly about the phone holder and how it can secure phones with a case but it looks like it can handle cases just fine.
Great video! Thanks for sharing information about the Zhiyun Smooth Q2! I just picked up one on huge discount and I am enjoying it a lot! Cheers!
Hey Blake! Great video as usual! Question, I’m using an iPhone X with a moment wide lens. Will this gimbal support that or will I need a counterweight?
Haven’t tested with lenses, but it should hold that amount of weight. But, you would likely need a counterweight as that Moment lens is pretty big. Thanks for watching!
Have you tried it with lenses? For example with the moondog anamorphic? Does hold the lenses and is the arm in the way?
Not yet. :) Will though.
iPhoneographers update on if you were able to get a moment lens balanced and working with the gimbal? Looking to purchase it for the holidays.
I received Q2 3 weeks ago and had no troubles at all connecting it via BT to native iOS app (iPhone X in my case) straight out of the box ☝🏻 …
That’s great. 👍🏻
Great vid!
Question, when shooting a panorama photo, do I need to attach a tripod or will it be stable without it ?
Because I did it once and it was stable, but after that, it went crazy on me and fell.
You normally don’t have to in our experience. But sometimes if you pan or tilt to far the motors can give and cause crazy vibrations. Securing the phone is never a bad idea.
Love my SmoothQ!! 🙌🏻⚡️📱💪🏻💥👏🏻 Great video Blake!
I have the original Smooth Q. Would you say that it is worth upgrading? One benefit I can see with this new one is the lightening port isn’t obstructed like the original.
It’s a solid upgrade. This is a much more robust and professional feeling product than the original.
Good review. What type of tripod you were using?
It’s one from Pergear.
will this handle iPhone XS Max + Moment lenses (wide) + ND filter? Would I need to use a counterweight? Also its a bummer it doesn't work with filmicpro app but otherwise this looks really good. I was gonna get Osmo Mobile 3 but this might be better...
That weight would be pushing it especially with the ND. Solid gimbal though.
Just bought one, at start up the gimbal shut down quite a few times even with a full charge, then it went dead, I I connected it again to power supply and it restarted, I tried it again and it seems to be ok now, but I've noticed if the phone touches to motor the gimbal packs a sad and has to be re-set, maybe it's operator error althogh I had the original smooth Q and had no issues at all apart from drowning it in salt water.....anyway only had the 2 for a few hours so will give it a good play over next few days. Subscribed mate, always keen to learn more about film making with the smart phone and improve my wee channel.
Paul Taylor Photography I was having the same issues... I really want to like this gimbal and I do but it’s too much to think about with how to hold it and when to turn it and so many little things. I’ve had it for a week now and it’s still not any better, I’m not really that much of an idiot lol. But I’ll give it a couple more days and if I don’t feel more comfortable with it I’ll be returning it and trying out the Benro 3xS.
Mikhail Thomas I’ve been trying mine last day or so it seems to be working now but occasionally it just goes limp like the motor shuts down
Paul Taylor Photography Yea I’ve found it do that as well... plus the knob for the joystick has come off twice. It’s too unstable for me right now. It’s a great idea just needs a bit more fine tuning to be ready, I think.
question: is Zhiyun Smooth Q2 Gimbal a good choice for Samsung note 9 and what about the shadow which appear because of the edge the Zhiyun Smooth Q2 Gimbal is it same for note 9?
Hey. I am also planning to buy this gimbal for Samsung Note 9 for travel vlogging.
Is this good.
or should I go for Smooth 4 or Osmo 3
How does this compare to Osmo Mobile 2 or 3 in terms of stabilization? Thanks for the great review!
Really all these gimbals are similar in that regard. Some just take more practice than others. Would say this one might take a little more practice than the Osmo variety. And it just depends on experience and skill level. Thanks for watching!
I had a smooth 4 which was excellent but developed a fault so I’ve sent it back. I am now looking at the Q2 because it is so much more compact.
Two queries. First how easy is it to quickly decide to record slo mo? The 4 was down to two buttons record or camera after selecting slo on the app.
Also why is there no mini tripod? You show one in use but just have a passing caption mention this. I presume there is a thread on the handles base to accommodate a tripod but it’s another £19.
Yeah it doesn’t come with a tripod. We don’t use the gimbal app ourselves so not really familiar with that record control aspect, but seems pretty straight forward.
Once you tilt to portrait mode - you can bring the handle towards you to "flashlight". I recently found that out
El estabilizador smooth Q2 es de buena calidad pero tiene varios defectos graves:
- Si lo pones en vertical se ve el motor y te fastidia la toma, por lo que hay que usarlo siempre en ángulo de 45 grados
- No tiene botones para controlar el zoom ni el joystick tampoco vale para eso
- No tiene modo follow me (lo pones con el trípode y te sigue) o al menos yo no lo he encontrado
Me
arrepiento de haber confiado que al ser mas caro que el que tenía en
mente (el Hohem iSteady X) iba a ser mejor, pero en este caso el más
barato si llevaba todo lo que este carece
Smooth video man, I would to ask if there is an "adaptor clamp" if in case I would to install a Action Cam?
Have you had a chance to try this with moments lenses? Looks like a great little gimbal!
Haven’t really tried lenses yet, but with smaller phones it should be fine. Larger phones the anamorphic should be ok (it’s light).
Can you add a decent microphone + deadcat wind shield to an iPhone 11 Pro Max and still balance and stay inside the weight limit? I ask this because bad sound in windy conditions plagues my iPhone video recordings. Because of how the Osmo Mobile 3 starts up, you can’t have anything sticking out the end of your phone.
Haven’t tried that, but the weight should be fine. Probably need to add a small arm to hold it though with a cold shoe.
Should I buy Smooth 4 for now ?
Totally subjective call. The Smooth 4 works very well. It has a lower payload capacity though and no joystick. So just depends on your phone and preference.
Totally subjective call. The Smooth 4 works very well. It has a lower payload capacity though and no joystick. So just depends on your phone and preference.
Thanks for the first impressions!!! Will all of the buttons of the Q2 work with the FiLmicPro app? For example will the start button on the gimbal start the filming or would I have to press the start button on the app?
It’s not currently supported by FP (maybe it will be though), but we need to test the simple Bluetooth option with third-party apps and see if it does - will report back if it works. 😃
@@iphoneographers If it's not supported, can FiLmic Pro be used at all for filming? (I'm a new to all of this so my apologies if this is basic)
Can you please do a difference on the q2 and the last version, 4 3-axis
Very cool edits, I’ll be checking this gimbal out. Thanks for sharing.
A Question : in Filmic Pro / Hardware setting it’s only got Zhiyun Smooth 4 does this mean the Q2 will work in that setting or, are we waiting for Filmic Pro to update with a new input for the Q2?
I just wrote to the Filmic Pro Support and this is their answer:
"At this time we do not have custom support for the Zhiyun Smooth Q2 or Feiyu Vlog Pocket in FilMiC Pro. I will pass your requests on to our product manager for consideration as they plan out the future development of FiLMiC Pro!
For now, it's possible that you may be able to get the start/stop button working on these gimbals, but as I don't have either of them to test on I can't confirm that it will work. To do so, follow these steps:
1.) Turn on your gimbal.
2.) In your System Settings, select Bluetooth and connect to the gimbal.
3.) In FiLMiC Pro's Settings > Device, scroll all the way to the bottom and toggle "Volume Keys Trigger Recording" ON.
Once you've done this, you may be able to use the record button to start/stop recording. Like I said I don't have either of these units to test on so I can't confirm that it will work, but this is how we enable Bluetooth shutter remotes to work so it frequently works with unsupported gimbals as well. Please let me know if you have additional questions and I will be happy to assist!"
Awesome video again.
How did you "conform" to 24 FPS?
Also, can I just shoot in 120 FPS, slow it down to 80% (96FPS) in post and then render in 24FPS?
Hope to get your opinion on that. Thank you.
Thanks! Here just did the conform within FiLMiC Pro. You can set the app to do it and you have automatic slow motion without having to do it in post. Otherwise you just conform in whatever editing app you’re using and in this case 120fps it would be a 20% slow-motion look. You could try what you’re suggesting however think it would be stuttery. With FiLMiC Pro you can shoot at 96FPS and conform in to 24P if you want.
@@iphoneographers Does "conform" mean the "Playback FPS"?
Did you ever try out any moment lenses with the case on the Q2? I’m just curious, great video.
The lighter ones like the anamorphic work, but heavier ones haven’t tried - and don’t think it would do well - unless with smaller phone and/or maybe a counterweight.
Will this balance with filters or a small mini microphone attached? Does this model offer counter weights for balance?
With a smaller phone yes it will. The larger phones that would be pushing it, but filters should be ok. We typically use universal counterweights, when needed.
I wonder how necessary this is with the iPhone 11 pro though, as it already got great native optical stabilization?
Watch our previous video. :) Using the Ultra Wide lens (which actually has no OIS) for short movement it’s good... For longer takes we’d stick to a gimbal if you want really smooth footage. Of course with the other two lenses it’s gimbal all the way.
Is the battery interchangeable by the user?
Another great video, 2 things though. First I’d like to see it in 4K if possible and also using the iOS native camera app, since the new Apple “Cinematic Stabilization” is way better than FilMics Pro.
Thanks!
Thanks! We upload in 4K sometimes, but more often we don’t unless were focusing more on the image quality. Here it was mainly about stabilization, but we do upload 4K some. We’ve actually tested and the stabilization we’re finding is pretty much identical between the two apps. Will be posting that soon. :)
Blake, again thank you for your time and review. I am very impressed with this Zhiyun Smooth Q2 Gimbal as al Real Estate Videographer. I currently have and use the Zhiyun full frame/mirror less camera body gimbal, so the build quality is very impressive and familiar. That said, I use camera lights on my rig and I am having a hard time working out how to use the Zhiyun Smooth Q2 Gimbal holding it in a flashlight position with a tee handle and mounted lights. This Zhiyun, you have clearly documented does have issues with the gimbal in your shot using the I phone 11 pro max wide angle lens. I think I am leaning to the Feiyu VLOG Pocket Handheld Gimbal which you also reviewed in an earlier video and does not present this problem. Question what was your impression of the motor on the Feiyu? Again thank you for your time and input, Great presentation. Mark
The Vlog pocket is surprisingly robust. However, wouldn’t use that one with any additional accessories really. It’s just too small. It’s a great option for travel and portability. To hold more weight you might look at the FeiyuTech G6 Max. That might be the best gimbal in that class. There’s a review video in the gimbal playlist on our channel. Thanks for watching!
@@iphoneographers Blake, thanks for the quick response, Impressive, really. Thank you. I will explore the FeigyuTechG6. Just to clarify, I have no intentions of putting lights on the gimbal motors and mounts only on the rig that accompanies it. This is a configuration I am trying to build and similar to what I do now with a Canon 5d Mark lV. So, I was wondering do you know if the Zhiyun Crane 2 gimbal body mentioned above , has the same diameter circumference as the as the Zhiyun Smooth Q2 gimbal body? If so, I think I have solved my challenge as I can mount the Smooth Q2 into the dual handle center mount ( Crane-EH002) for made to handle the Crane 2 circumference. If it is the same I can then mount the smooth 2 in a horizontal flash light configuration and use the t handle grips for the lights. Hope you can picture this by my description I was unable to get this info thus far but will call the company tomorrow. Anyway thank you again. Sincerely, Mark Sands
@@iphoneographers PS - if you are curious. The Crane 2 does not work with the I phone, it is to light and confuses the motors - I tried, thus I am now in the market for a I phone gimbal. Best, Mark
Will it work with Xiaomi Redmi Note 7?
Haven’t used that phone but it will hold the large iPhones or Samsungs, so if it’s similar sized you should be ok.
Thank you for another valuable review. Do you know if the battery is replaceable? With the Freefly Mobi Robot you can replace the batteries.
It is replaceable.
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Thanks for your information
Which one would be better for the iPhone 11 Pro Max? This or the Crane M2?
The M2 is better for larger setups.
iPhoneographers I see. So if I don’t plan to attach any additional accessories like a lens to my iPhone, the Smooth Q2 would be better?
So this won't work with new Polarpro lite kit or anamorphic lens with case.... too heavy?
Haven’t tried, but it should work with PolarPro as it’s a pretty light setup and especially with the 11 Pro. Anamorphic would depend. Moment one with Thin case should be fine. Heavier setups not advisable.
Can u do vortex shot while in flashlight mode (for ultra wide cam on ip11pro)
For someone who likes to take mostly photos and some videos, is this a good gimbal to use?
Yes you can trigger the naive camera app via the handle which is nice. Or use the Zhiyun app.
So does filmic pro work with this then I just received my today will need to have a Look 👍
It’s not integrated within the app, but just using it as a camera works great.
Awesome, I think I'll buy it..
If you have made video on Zhiyun Smooth Q2 with OnePlus 7 Pro or OnePlus 7T Pro then please please share link..,
Very helpful!! I just got the Q2 and am using it with my 11 Pro Max, so was very interested in how to shoot with the wide angle lens. Like you said, the flashlight mode is the way. However, I only have the ZY app. Big question: how do you turn on the wide angle lens from within the ZY app? Would really appreciate your help with this!!
Last we looked at that app it wasn’t supported yet, but would be surprised if it wasn’t now. We use Filmic Pro primarily. And actually trying to connect to the ZY app right now to check for you and it’s not working. Will let you know when we figure it out.
iPhoneographers thank you. I know i can access the wide angle lens if i just use the camera’s program.
How's the object tracking in this gimbal?
my vortex mode with iPhone 11 pro max is shaky. i spoke with their support and their reply was that the video i send them is fine. i don't see it fine as i see the motors getting weak by vibrating
Might be a balancing issue or there’s too much weight if your case is too heavy or are using a third-party lens? It shouldn’t vibrate as that is possibly straining the motors (or they’re out of sync if the balance is off).
Can Smooth Q2 hold Pixel 3XL with Otterbox case? I don't like to take off my phone's case every time I want to use the gimbal. Does the phone clip fits my phone with its case?
Have not tested that setup but my feeling is it would be a struggle. Typically OtterBox cases are not great on gimbals in our experience. Too bulky. And this gimbal only holds 260g. So it does not hold a lot of weight TBH. You might look at FeiyuTech G6 Max or the Moza Mini-P as those will hold pretty much anything phone related you can throw at it.
@@iphoneographers Thanks, I'll check those options.
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Hi. I'm a beginner. I'm interested in your FiLMic Pro class + Cinematography 101 bundle. I ordered the SmoothQ2 - waiting for it to arrive. Is it worth taking the FiLMic Pro class if the Q2 is not supported by FP? Can I use FiLMic Pro with the Q2 even if they are not compatible?
Hi, we replied to your Facebook message so definitely check that out. Hope you enjoy the Smooth Q2 and enroll in our courses as well! :) Thanks!
Do the controls work with comic pro? Would you recommend this over the osmo mobile 3?
Controls not available in Filmic Pro. It’s a close call on the two gimbals. Probably lean towards this one for build quality.
Darn it. I’m third. I must be slipping with my favorite channel! Sorry Blake. Next time I’ll pull over the car and come out and give you a thumbs up immediately. I would not wanna lose my fan club membership!
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Hello. I intend to do my best with investments that are not so representative. The best return on the little money available. I have an iPhone 7 plus, an iPad Pro 10.5 LumaFusion and FilmicPro. I must look for the sound and lighting the best options, but for now the sun and the microphones of the devices must support my productions...The question for you: What do you recommend between a ZhiyumQ2 and a mobile DJI osmo 3. I had my attention on the Q2 but the bluetooth connection and I don't know if being forced to work in flashlight mode is a disadvantage. My son has an iPhone 11 ProMax which I can use in ultra wide lens. What do you recommend?
Did yours come with the tripod base?
No that was an additional accessory.
Great video! However, at 2:07 the Smooth Q2 isn't fully folded down which makes is considerably smaller than the Crane M2 .. you redeem yourself at 7:27 though, haha! Very informative video, thanks!
Just showing how they compare in operational mode. Thanks for watching!
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Will smooth q2 work with Android devices? My phone is Samsung A50 will this will work with my phone???
Does it have video face track?
The ZY Play app is cross-platform, so it works with Android and iOS. Don’t know your exact phone, but gimbal holds 260g.
Most of these gimbals seem to have an issue with their design when used with ultra-wide.
I have the Osmo + that just broke and took my iPod touch with it. I was thinking of going Osmo Pocket, but frankly 100 mbps still seems limited. I was thinking of a iPhone 11 or 11 Pro/max and a gimbal like this to use with my FilmicPro app that I purchased last year. So far what modern iphone and gimbal is your top choice for a phone gimbal combination? I wold like to be able to use the ultra wide camera in flashlight mode like you did here.. also looking for an extension, so I can walk along and record footage at 3-6” off of the ground surrounded by feral cats in a colony for a project. The Osmo + was a good perspective, but handle broke while on the end of the baton extension. This gimbal looks well made and has a 1/3 or 1/4 tripod mount? Are there good extensions say 3 or 4 feet long.. preferably aluminum or metal as well for stability? Does not need to be collapsible.. prefer if it didn’t really. Especially when you have a $1,000 phone hanging on the end of it.
This is a nice gimbal option and it’s definitely a professional-grade build, so it will hold up to wear and tear.
One combo I keep going back to is the iPhone 11 Pro (or Max) and the Osmo Mobile 3. They work well together and are lightweight and easy to use. You could mount it on a monopod too. The gimbal is plastic versus this one being aluminum, but it’s still solid. Currently Filmic Pro doesn’t support it yet, but believe they will in the future.
If you want to add accessories though like lenses etc. you should look at the Zhiyun M2 or the FeiyuTech G6 Max. Sturdier options that will hold more weight.
I just bought 1, and I’m a complete beginner. Thanks for the review! One of the best reviews I have watched. Now it make sense to me! Only bummer about this gimbal, if you have a thick phone case (I have Mous case), it won’t grip it tightly. So you have to remove your case or use a thinner case.
This VS the moza mini s?
your office is sick as shit lol Love it
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what tripod mounts to the gimbal? I didnt get any tripod with mine.
That’s one from Pergear. Just an accessory we added.
has the same modes than the crane M2?
Yeah it’s pretty similar. Mainly it’s a smaller build and doesn’t hold near the payload capacity.
Can this gimbal will take vortex shoot or inception mode and dolly zone shoot or vertigo mode
Yes it has several options when using the Zhiyun Play app.
@@iphoneographers this 2 options are there if there can you make video tutorials for people like us
@@iphoneographers we r waiting for yor video
Im a total noob here, hopefully someone could help me out with a question i have on the q2...do you need to use the zhiyun app to be able to use the pan follow mode or would we be able to use that mode even in the native app?
You need the app to control the gimbal with the handle like that, but you can shoot with any video camera app.
Useful video as usual , well done guys 👍🏻
Is it possible to use the ultrawide in selfie mode?
You mean selfie mode on the gimbal? If so, no it would still see the arm using ultra wide.
@@iphoneographers is there any smartphone gimbal that can do that withiut the arm going in the frame?
Support samsung m30s???
I saw a review from a gimbal pro in China, he said that 75% chance you won't have trouble in ultra-wide. this Q2 is a bit heavy due to the metal made body, but I like it
In our test here we found it’s more like a 100% chance. :) Probably depends on which phone you’re using. It is a tad bit heavier than plastic gimbals, but the build quality is stellar.
In this video what is the tripod mount you use? It's not the Manfrotto
The ZhiyuN Smooth 2 comes with a tripod. At least you can choose to order it alongside.
Believe it was a Shoulderpod mount.
You should try Snoppa Atom. It would cause any problems even with Fish Eye lens.
It’s on our to do list. That’s the one gimbal we really haven’t worked with. 👍🏻
@@iphoneographers Oh, I see. I am sure, you'll like it. It's pretty smooth and the servo gear looks pretty flat to be captured by the lens. But my deepest disappointment was the high-frequency noise in the sound path of the external microphone caused by interference from the servos.... Most probably they didn't manage with shielding wires. I am looking forward to seeing your review!
is this one smaller than the travel mozo you reviewed?
The Moza folded yes, but when that’s unfolded it’s bigger than this one.
What about external microphone? Can you share it?
Haven’t tested it with a mic yet.
Which tripod are you using in this video. The listed ones in your description are NOT the same as what you are using in the video
The linked ones are for phones or cameras, not gimbals per se if that’s what you’re referring to... Although they do work well. The one holding the Q2 is by Pergear and it’s new to us.
Believe this is the one... www.amazon.com/dp/B072JW7PWX/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_K.2TDbC8SSK55
I know you were the biggest fan of DJI’s latest mini smartphone gimbal, but... I do wonder what DJI newest does with the iPhone 11 Pro Max’s ultra wide angle???🤔
Actually haven’t used the Osmo Mobile 3 yet, but have seen where it’s ok because of the new design. 👍🏻
iPhoneographers, Blake I just watched another video that was...
Well, the motor in the DJI overheats when paired with the heavier phone and moment lens, thus overheating the iPhone and shutting down Filmic. Soooo... there may be that too. I’d like to see your views on everything I discussed when you have time.
i used filmic pro apps , i can't shoot video with the button on zhiyun smooth q , on filmic pro device not choice for zhiyun smooth q . you have solution for that . just shoot by tap on display ?
Yeah that’s what we do. Hoping they add support for more gimbals soon.
@iPhoneographers Does this gimbal work well with an iPhone 11 Pro Max with Moment filmmakers case and Moondog anamorphic bayonet lens? Also with an ND filter attached? Thanks!
Haven’t tested that setup because we still don’t have our Moment case! Grrrr. But definitely something on the to do list. It should do fine with lens, but the ND mount might be pushing it weight wise.
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All these gimbals coming out are nice but they have 2 downfalls. 1. If I pay $1000 for a device I want the “good” case to stay on. 2. Most of them don’t have motors strong enough for the Note 10+ 😄
The Note 10+ weighs under 200g and the iPhone 11 Pro Max we used weighs 220g, so it should work fine. 👍🏻
What’s the tripod you attached to the gimbal?
It’s from Pergear. Last we checked it was back ordered though on Amazon.
Thank you. I will check
Is it better than the osmo mobile 3?
It’s different. Build quality better, but similar functions. Osmo 3 is less expensive. Both solid options.
Still waiting for mine, not good! UK delivery needs sorting!!
🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾 cant wait mine from Kickstarter...❤️❤️❤️ thank you for Sharing this...
I just received mine yesterday! Is the cutest little thing, selling my smooth 4 (too bulky in comparison)
Will this gimble follow object and rotate if it is beyond view?
It has object tracking with the ZY Play app, but haven’t shot in the scenario you describe, so not sure. But object tracking works.
@@iphoneographers I meant, does gimbal have object tracking and turn left or right if it needs to
Yep it has object tracking and it follows. Have not used it much more than a few tests though.
why does the footage look so horrible ? It doesnt look 1080p at all, is it the youtube compression ? I was tempted to switch away from the sony alpha to some more portable phone footage, at least in broad daylight, but this makes me slightly concerned..
I love Filmic Pro. But when I use the Wide rear camera on my 11ProMax, the native App does a much better job with Dynamic Range. It's not even close. The darn native software does some magic with shadows and bright skies that I cant even get close to on Filmic Pro. This is with using the Flat or Log Profile, and really working in Resolve to nail exposure and dynamic range in post. The native app just looks better. I get the bit rate and full control argument - etc. But the dynamic range image from the native app is just hands down better.
That’s interesting. We did a video showing just the opposite using LogV2... ruclips.net/video/ikjQMdRMOEU/видео.html. Will do another comparison with the iPhone 11, but everything we’ve seen thus far is the same. Thanks for watching!
What happened to object tracking?
It has it in the Zhiyun app.
Quite a bit smaller than the 1st gen. Looks like I need to upgrade.
Yeah it is. Was surprised at the size and build quality (in a good way).
Would this gimbal hold the 11 Pro Max and Sandmarc Anamorphic Lens?
That’s on the edge of what it will hold as the phone alone weighs 220g. But anamorphic lenses are the lighter at approximately 40g so it should work.
Must be camera angle, but is the iphone level?
why is more expensive that smooth 4 ? more stuff ?
Better payload capacity much more robust build quality are probably the main reasons.
Also better battery life and more compact.
I'd have to say the DJI mobile 3 is better for the fact you don't have that arm or big motor in the shot and you don't have to do "flashlight" mode.
For Ultra Wide lens use would say that’s true. Although flashlight mode is actually good for smoothing out the Z axis movement too, so tend to use it pretty often.
iPhoneographers
I can agree with you on that!
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3:28 those moment case for the iphone x onwards are wack stupid. Quality and they are ripping apart unlike the moment for the iphone 7 really well built
We use our phone A LOT and are always putting it in different rigs, mounts, etc. It’s actually been a great case for us.
The phone is tilted in gimbal.That you didn't notice
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giveaway?
I’m looking for a gimbal that doesn’t get in the way no matter how it’s held when I’m using the wide angle lens on my new iPhone 11 Pro. Is there such an animal?
The Vlog Pocket by Feyutech is perfect for this
Yeah Vlog Pocket, Crane M2 and Osmo Mobile 3 are good options.
latest firmware update more or less solves it - although only three gimbal modes available.
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It's probably just me but I think that footage from FilmicPro gets worse and worse for each new iPhone model compared to the native app. Or perhaps is the native apps color science just getting better. The video shot in this video with FilmicPro really doesn't look good at all. But nice, simple review.
The native app is ok in sunlight, but really no where else as it’s bit rate is so low and it turns to mud very quickly. So we always recommend any third-party app over it. What don’t you like about FP? The footage here is just test stuff, but the lake shots we quite like. Thanks for watching!
@@iphoneographers I've owned iPhone 11 Pro Max for a few weeks now. And each time I compare my shots from the native app with other apps, it's like the image is cleaner, the colors are better out-of-the-box and it doesn't have this mushy look to it. Your video is only uploaded in 1080p (or at least not rendered in 4K yet by RUclips), but as it is now none of the video material done by the iPhone is very impressing. It just looks...dull and it does looks like it's missing a frame here and there! Spec vise FilmicPro is a clear winner. Just can't see it in action. And I've lost some important shots by relying on FilmicPro, which would make it hard to recommend for anything that can't be reshot. You should try making a comparison between third-party apps and the iPhone 11 Pros native app.
What is the bit rate for shooting video in iPhone 11 Pro with it’s native video app?
There's one more gimbal for your review in the nearest future - Snoppa Vmate.
Yeah we need to check out Snoppa.