Stihl MS362 Chainsaw! HARD To Start And LOW On Power! Let's GO!!
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- This Stihl MS362 chainsaw was dropped off for repair - hard to start and low on power! Let’s find out why and fix it!
This saw has worked hard over the past 7 years and is due for a check up.
I will also set up two brand new Stihl MS881 chainsaws and get them ready for customer pick up day!
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I just don't understand why people pay all that money for equipment and don't do general maintenance on it.
Questions that could be asked infinitely and truthfully burden our mechanics with tedious inescapable work.
Some people don’t know how, and some people just use it up and replace. West Chazy have become a disposable society 😢
Life happens no judgments from me. I just turned my 028AV in for maintenance after it has say in its own juices for five years as I was recovering from cancer and surgery. My PT and OT cleared me to use the same again. Wish I was living closer to this professional lady.
Well done Erica.. I hit all the buttons.. see you soon
Looks like you have your hands full! It’s good to be busy! Nice work!
Thanks Ken! We just had a super busy week! I hope to see you all tomorrow :)
That's my little girl, only second vid I've watched, both incredibly neglected saws, so sad to see.
Those 880s are monsters !
I love your videos! Now I'm just waiting to see how you disassemble and reassemble an engine :) Greetings from Italy
Thanks for watching!
@oscuro_signore In a past video she says they rarely rebuild chainsaw engines because the parts & labor cost would exceed the price of a brand new unit.
Awesome video as usual Erica !
Thanks for sharing a great video
I love my saws, especially my big Stihls. I'm very meticulous when it comes to cleaning them and I do it after each and every use. Good saws are an expensive investment and well worth the time and effort to keep them clean. At least in my opinion. That poor 362 looked like it had never been cleaned. Wow
Totally with ya on this. Replacing big/pro saws isn't cheap. I quite enjoy time in the shed with radio on doing maintenance after a day cutting.
@@badgerjim71 Jimmy you sound like me! I enjoy cleaning my big saws...my little ones too!
Another great job, Erica. Thanks for the video. 🇬🇧
I got a 362, and if you ask me, it's one of the best saws ever made for general tree felling. Light, brutal power and acceleration. I use mine with 16" Tsumura light, and an extra 20" Oregon bar in my toolbox.
Wow the size on that beast. Daymmm
Well done again!💪💪🍺🍺👍
I hope you have more staff than you and your husband to help you out?...great video btw
Thank you for posting this excellent video. It is a good lesson in the value of giving any mechanical device a good cleaning and inspection at regular intervals. My grandfather owned and operated a commercial sawmill. He did keep the mill's engine (a gasoline v8) and the platform where people worked pretty clean, but everything else was covered in sawdust. He went deaf because he refused to wear ear protection. I hope you will consider wearing ear protection even when you start an engine for short periods.
Great work on the chainsaws, especially the small one, servicing is key if you do it yourself or send into the dealer dependant on the tool and skill set.
Using the right fuels and lubricants from Stihl is key as well, I’m still using the Stihl oil Castrol Manufactured before the red and green superseded the blue one.
Run beautifully😁🇦🇺
Note:Read your Stihl Instruction manual, even on a rainy day!
The verdict was he did nothing to maintain it 😂
Hello from southern Tasmania. We are getting ready for our winter the sound of chainsaws cutting firewood is everywhere . At 5 am this morning I was stoking the fire just like you were in this vid. I’m running a lot of old saws 032 034 38 and 46 magnums. I’m learning so much from you very through and informative vids. Thank you.
You definitely are the chainsaw repair queen 👑👑
Thank you!
@@marriedwithsmallengines you are most welcome young lady 💐
I so enjoy watching you take care of these little machines. The lesson here- there’s so much you can learn from careful observation of the clues! 👍
Thanks for watching!
Man those 881s make you look tiny Erica. Big beautiful saws though. I'd love to try one out. I've run 066s and now I have a 661.
Another good job Erica!
Do you ever work on older saws? I know most places won't. I like my old McCullochs. 😁
Yes, sometimes I do!
I guess finding parts is an issue. I have some sources in the US, guys who have bought up old dealership stock.
The 362 The Saw That Choked Itself 😩😩😭 Plugged Air Filters And Clogged Cooling Fins and Air Diverter Ducting Nice Catch 😀Are Shop Is Getting Swamped Also Your Guys Shop Is Huge I Love Working On Walkers My Former Employer Was a Walker Dealer So I Worked on a Lot of Them Even The Old Chain Drive Models 😀😊 Still Work on Them At Were I’m At Now
I’ve Worked On Many Stihl 088 Magnums I Have Yet To Work on One Of These Sweet New Stihl 881’s Yet But Looking Forward To It 😊😀 They Look Awesome
:)
Great video, I had two MS362s given to me for repair recently. Both with severe wobble in the clutch drums, so bad the oil pump arms weren't rotating and both would stall when the brake was operated.. Turned out major PTO crankshaft wear was to blame.. Both saws were scrapped by the owner.. :)
fun fact, a saw covered in wood dust usually means they have been using a dull chain or a chain with high rakers. the chain should make chips, not saw dust.
an overly tight chain can also make it feel low on power
Excellent video again. Personally I have a MS 362 C-M version. Pretty powerful and excellent build quality saw. Hello from the snowy northern Europe.
There is always saw dust, but that amount of fine dust looks like they were cutting with dull chains. Looking at the work waiting makes me glad I am retired. When the freight or hot shot trucks pulled in and I was looking out the shop window I knew I was in for some long days and even weekends. The OT was good to get, but the human body can only take so much.
Exactly what I was thinking? Still, this saw owner lousy job of keeping a saw clean. A ‘True’ saw owner always clean his saws after a hard run, even if it is just a cursory one, and then a better one later on if it is a time concern?
Another great video. Sure enjoy your channel. You’re so methodical in your procedures.
Figured this was a good time to ask this question that has been bugging me ever since I bought my first Stihl saw with the Frankenstein fuel & oil covers. This seems to be a good example of German Engineering. Why design something that works with 2 or 3 parts when they can come up with something that doesn’t work any better but is much more complicated and consists of 10 or 12 parts. You got it, the funky oil & fuel caps. I have learned new words after I have got back to my log pile after refueling only to learn the gas or oil is all over my pants & boots. Have you ever learned from Stihl why these have to be so complicated?
I was in awe at how big you operation is. How many technicians do you keep busy? Do you each specialize in the equipment you work on? Do you also do videos on lawn equipment?
Your channel is great.👍
It's amazing how many problems can be avoided with just regular maintenance. Also I had no idea that you could put a snow blower attachment on a riding lawn mower.
Keep up the good work. I really enjoy your videos. I know that it must be hard to film, edit, run your business, and most importantly, family obligations. Your content is excellent, I truly believe that you should teach, you are an excellent instructor. Thanks from a fellow Ontario resident.
Thank you! It is hard - I'm being pulled in many different directions and trying to make time for everything.
@@marriedwithsmallengines we absolutely appreciate all of the time and work you put into recording and uploading these wonderful videos Erica!
Nice intro to your video.
I would be embarrassed to give a saw to the shop that dirty! It also looks like he doesn’t know how to tension the chain which leads to sprocket issues! Sounds like a little bit of education in your future!
Some mornings need a magnum coffee.
Perhaps a new chain went on. Chain got retensioned after cutting while hot and then put away. It cooled down and tightened up.
Blue oring on the bar oil cap!
The 881 reminds me of the Stihl 051AV when running
buying at least a portable 125psi capable air compressor for a home shop is good enough for users to use to keep their chainsaw cleaned out after each use
Please...
OSHA:
"Compressed air shall not be used for
cleaning purposes, except where reduced to less than 30 psi and then only with effective chip guarding and
personal protection equipment."
When you do high quality work like that, your customers will actually want you to stay in business.
Great video. Jumpins those 881’s are big. 122 cc, must be about 10 hp. Thanks for your videos. I saw test procedure that helped me fix my Red Max G5300 chainsaw. And I saw you on Ken’s small engine repair live last Saturday. 👍🏻👍🏻👋👋
Awesome! 😎
So glad to see another chainsaw repair upload! You were missed young lady❤❤❤❤
Thank you!
Another great video...thanks for shareing your workday!
Thanks for watching!
Sorry for loving the spectacular MS 881 content more than the repair of the MS 362. Unfortunately I have never seen one. The largest I was ever able to start and use was an MS 661. Here in Germany the top size saws are rarely needed. We ain’t got those large trees. Do you know why the MS 881 comes without M-Tronic? Love Alex.
5-6 years of hot suppers and it's still kicking. That's some quality and some luck. Didn't over heat it.
Nice work Erica and those are some big 881s for sure. 👍
Saw Erica sucking air trying to start those 881's. Tough saw for a good man to start. Man that is one powerful saw, like to see it working wood.
They are tough!
Thank You so much for sharing your valuable time, knowledge and resources to bring us such well produced and edited videos. BTW.. Erica, you remind me of a back in the day CBC children's show called 'The Friendly Giant'. Erica, you have the same calm, pleasant demeanor as the Giant. 👍
Just subbed, just found you. Im in Ontario as well , Niagara Falls. Excellent video 👍
Thanks for the sub!
I'm amazed at how big those saws are ,they sound like a dirt bike running 😊 . Good video.
Thank you!
Them Ms881 way to big wow there's no way I would want to lug that round all day after a couple hours I would say I'm done all I can say is they are Giant ChainSaw's
If you buy a saw also buy 6 air filters at the same time, it will save you time and money 😊😊😊
I noticed when you test cut a saw on log, that you hold saw away from log n not use the bump dog(spike). Is this for any other reason than the log is too close to shed or something technical. Hi fromAustralia by the way, love your channel
Hi Erica Bruce Here. Nice work. Looks like basic maintenance on that 362. Nice that the fuel lines are OK. I am stund on the amount of machines you have out there.
Hi Bruce! Sometimes I’m stunned by it too - especially when it all comes in at once. We will work our way through it all. So much video content but no time to video it.
@@marriedwithsmallengines I really understand
You do a great job! Thx
Love your methodical and practical routine and commentary. Easy to follow.
Love your woodstove too. I have an insert and there's nuthin' like wood heat for some amazing warmth.
Nothing like wood!
Great video. Just a brief comment noting the direction Stihl are headed in regards to what they term "in house" manufacturing of all their domestic saws. For the STIHL MS 362 Chain Saw with a not exactly inexpensive price of Canadian $1,189.99, "in house" means the following.
Top plastic hood Virginia Beach USA.
Oil pump China QUINGDAO.
Crankcase Weinsheim (In house) Germany.
Saw bar Waiblingen (Outsourced) Germany.
Saw chain China QIL.
Cylinder Sao Leopoldo Brazil.
Carburetor China. HUIZHOU
Only the crankcase is Made "in house" at Stihl's German factory?
Sorry Stihl. In house to me means 100% Made in Germany for all components of a saw. Cheers.
You examine chainsaws like I examine my patients. In a thorough and methodical way. Short-cutting an examination leads to missing important information. Then the correct diagnosis isn’t made and treatment is completely wrong or insufficient.
Amazing comment!! Thank you!!
Follow an ABCD approach with your chainsaws too - A - air intakes B - air filter C - fueling system (fuel filter, hose, carb) and D - Coil and Spark. That saw had a case of COPD :-D
Used to have access to an MS880 for milling. Great saw for milling but had to get someone else to start it and heck are they heavy. Heavy powerhead, then add the b+c and the mill. Almost too heave to pick up. And they drink fuel, as do all big saws.
I have a MS-362‐C with a ported muffler and a 24-inch skip tooth. The saw is a beast. My saw gets broken down and cleaned "washed" after every use.
If you take care of your equipment, your equipment will take care of you.
I have one too. I don’t like the skip tooth because the chain feels rough to me. They sold me this one because I am 74 and I was having trouble starting my bigger saws. When it is cold I pull out the rope 5 times and then it starts on the first pull. I also mill lumber freehand with a 36” bar, works fine. I clean it every time I use it and touch up the chain. Love the saw.
I'm 1000% certain that I will never ever start or use a chainsaw of any type at any time in my lifetime but I like these videos so much. Love from Scotland 🏴
Wow! 🤩
Plenty of hand-cutters in Scotland. So if you ever need a chainsaw, there’ll be plenty of arb and or forestry contractors to choose from.
Some big boys have too handle them 881s
4/19/24..another fine video 2day! ..had to giggle when you tried to start those big (biggest) saws...881's? But I saw they did get a warm up start..👍
Glad you cleaned project saw as it was pretty gross with saw dust & oil 'cake'.. once all repairs done, this saw looked/sounded great!
So anxious to see additional saw repairs, maybe saws with more involved, complex problems for greater interest as you have a bunch of pro-level tools seen on last video. Ok.. stay safe & carry on!🔧🔩⚙️👍✅️🍷😊
I enjoyed this video. Thank you.
What country is that 362 made in ? In my country the 362 is German made and only available in M Tronic version.
Made in Germany 😊
Looks like a business like yours is a good business to get into Spring and Fall maintenance. I'm handy so I do almost all of my lawn equipment maintenance but I still learn a lot from you. Thank you for your videos. John from MI P.S. Those Stihl 881's were beasts! I don't know if I could start one.
Lovely saw the MS 362, I bought one second hand earlier this year from a Stihl dealer. Saw your video and although mine doesn't need a service yet I thought I would watch it, so i know what I am in for when it does, although, since I am retired, it will not get such a lot of use. (that's why i bought second hand)
I also have an MS 162 I use in the garden.
I used to have Partners, which I used a lot in the 1970's felling huge dead elm trees in the English Midlands after Dutch Elm Disease killed them by the thousand.
I find Stihl a lot easier to get parts for.
I run my saws exclusively on Aspen two stroke fuel which is ready mixed 50:1 Ethanol free fuel since they are not used all the time I know I can leave them for months and the fuel is still ok and they will start after a few pulls.
This fuel is very expensive and wouldn't suit a professional using the saw every day, but will last up to five years. I believe Stihl make a similar fuel but nobody sells it in my area.
Thanks for the video, I am looking forward to the Husky 266 overhaul. I have a few of them, and even one with a big bore conversion to make it a 272. My 50 year old Husky 61 is still my favourite however.
This lady is good. What makes her videos so good is that she does close ups when she needs to. If I did not know better I would think she works for Stihl Corp as a trainer. She has all the correct equipment to work on saws and has a pleasant personality to boot. She speaks slow enough to follow her work, unlike the vast majority of shade tree mechanics who seem to think you have to speak as fast as an auctioneer if you want to make videos. Another one of her positive traits is the fact that she cleans up her saws before she puts them on the bench, unlike most other RUclips small engine mechanics. She also moves the parts that she removes out of the camera shot so that she keeps a clean and uncluttered bench. That in itself is tremendously important. She has a good camera/microphone and does superb setups. I don't know if she does her own editing or not but someone spends a lot of time with the software to do that. I rank her RUclips Channel equal to James Condon's RUclips Channel. With all her positive traits I am certain her business is profitable and her RUclips channel is very profitable as well. If you want to learn something about repairing chain saws follow her closely. Did I say she was entertaining too? Well, I just did.
As an example, the 80s era jonsered 451EV I'm restoring uses the removable nut-type spark plugs (NGK BPM6Y).
Wow, 122cc good lord! We used to use Pneumatic chain saws, they where 4 foot bars and need two people and a diesel compressor. Thats a beast!
This last fall, our snowmobile club purchased an MS362. We've had a few issues with it and the first one, of course, the dealer said that they had never seen it before...the throttle butterfly shaft was frozen up. After one running, it was inoperable. The mechanic had to replace the new carb. The other issue is the dealer tunes it for 1300 feet in elevation and we run it above 4000. Just after the saw warms up, it doesn't start unless we have the throttle cracked open. Other than that, the saw loves to eat wood. Thanks for putting up such great videos...not only educational but very entertaining as well.
Time to learn how to tune to carb for elevation & ambient temps.
Great repair and great to see a lot of business!!! Best wishes!
Thank you for being here!!
881 is equivalent to a 4hp outboard engine. BIG to carry around all day.
I paid good money for my 361 years ago, gets kept clean, runs as strong as day one
That is one great saw to be starting while completely plugged up. It's real problem seemed to be owner issue which I am guilty of myself Never get to cleaning it until the recoil rope breaks or I need a new chain and see it all jammed up with sawdust. Nice job.
Love your channel and want to give you hell for cutting the wood without safety glasses.
me thinks you need glasses, she has them on
I have an MS271 with a 20 inch bar. That’s a lot of work to lug around. Can’t imagine dealing with those 881s!
Question: I have a MS250. I dont use it often, but when I do use it I use it heavily, mostly in the spring when I cut brush on my acreage. I usually flip the bar and touch up the chain with a file with each tank of gas. When I have the clutch cover off, I blow off all the sawdust and oil with compressed air. Is this okay? It occurs to me I could be blowing oily dirt into spots where it doesn’t belong.
As long as the air filter is on you should be ok.
Nice work Erica😊
I wish you would have shown the guy that picked up the 881s I would have liked to have seen guy that operates those
Boy, what a mess!!! Nice that it didn't overheat from all the crap built up.
She was a mess!
Isn't it od ppl here buy those rounds on marketplace for ppl doing crafts
That test log has certainly come down a long way since I started watching the channel... I doubt it's oak going by the reddish colour.
Hi love your videos
Why do u wear them orange pants when your cutting wood
They are safety pants and I am trying to demonstrate safety :)
Enjoy your video😊
Yay! Thank you!
When a saw comes in thats just completely filthy, i mean like 15-20 min of cleaning prior to inspection do you charge an extra fee or just add it to the hourly rate.
Hi Mike. I just charge for how long it takes. If a saw requires 15 mins of clean up , then it’s 15 min of labor on the bill. Most customers don’t mind and appreciate getting the saw back cleaned up. If they wanted to do it themselves , they wouldn’t drop it off for me to do 😊
@@marriedwithsmallengines thank you Erica, sorry to bug you but I sent you another email. Sorry for so many questions. Take care ma'am.
Great video, just subscribed and will continue watching.
About 5 grand worth of saws. Going after some big’uns.
It's always surprising when people own this caliber of chainsaw and do so little to take care of it.
GREAT JOB REPAIRING THAT SAW 👍👍👍
Thank you so much!
Enjoy the content 👍
I have spent a lot of time with a Stihl MS362. Nice machines, both the analog and the electronic version. Thank you for bringing back the memories... wood flakes burning in the eyes and being drenched in sweat 😂
Glad you like it!
oh yeah. been waiting for the next video. could be a part time high school kid cleaning all those saws before you handke them. Safety glasses on the top of head are for ?
Yes, there could be! But then I wouldn't be able to show you all how they come in! :)
Is there a way to check mix ratio of existing fuel? Like they do with anti-freeze mix? Why do the 881's have a single knob to remove air filter cover but other saws require a tool and 3 screws to remove the cover? My 260 is a quarter turn to remove the cover. Were users having issues with the covers falling off?
Mow year-round down here. Saw some snow a few years ago...
I have a Husqvarna blower with a ton of hours on it (approx. 2000 or so) that has a similar issue. It just seems down on power. I put a new carb on it, did a spark arrester delete (it's no longer available), replaced the fuel filter, and cleared a restriction from the muffler. I bought a new air filter for it, but the one that is in it doesn't look that bad, so I haven't installed it yet. It belongs to my mom, and it was extremely carbon fouled. She is definitely putting too much oil in it. All of the things I did made it run better, but it still doesn't feel like it is 100% to me. It's starting pretty easy and idling perfect, but it just doesn't seem like it is running at full throttle. It's a BT130. She's had it for years, loves it, and uses it just about every day year round. I want to get it running as well as it can. Any ideas?
If it's been run heavy on 2-stroke oil I would think an "Italian Tune-up" would be the next course of action.
Another awesome job..
Happy saws, I love it..
Thanks!
Good job young lady.
Thank you!
I hope he has to pay your time for cleaning.
Thank you for your videos, I really appreciate your level of detail and step by step processes.
You certainly know what you are doing. Really enjoyed this segment.
Have an ms362 and ms661. I can’t imagine ever needing one of those ms881s.
That’s a lot of saw that possibly could pull your arm out of its socket if it ever backfired on startup
I really like your methodical approach to analyzing the 362.
My Craftsman chainsaw start with no problem but after 5 minutes of operating and getting hot it shuts down and don't want to start for a while.
I replace the fuel lines, fuel filter and air filter.
It's a very clean machine with not much use.
You think it's a carburetor needs to be adjusted or I should look for problem somewhere else?
Thanks in advance!
Love your channel!!!
Nice job 🙂
Thank you! Cheers!
Really enjoy your videos. They are very educational and full of useful content.
Glad you like them!