My father was an engineer and designer who specialized in developing manufacturing facilities and I grew up with an appreciation of how critical the optimization of manufacture is.
My job is to design and then make wooden jewelry and I´m saying for years, that i can make "anything" from wood, but its hard to design a make something, which make sense for me to make and then sell:) Funny that you can compare something so basic, that I make, with something so complex like making reusable rocket system and assambly line:)
Can we just appreciate how absolutely insane it is that Tim pulled this off?? Hats off to you & the entire team - seeing you tour Starbase with its creator is seriously inspirational.
- - - > Yes, thank you Tim (his team) and Elon for sharing this! - - - - - - - > I especially enjoyed Elon's 5 step process and the explanation breakdown of that process! (For anyone interested, check out Booster 3 Static Fire with no sound delay over on my channel)
Elon mentioned on Twitter that he didn’t shower for five days prior to the interview for lack of time, the whole team being in surge mode for the first orbital launch. The fact that he granted you (and us) a 2 hours interview speaks volume to the esteem he holds you in. Congratulation to you and your team Tim!
It also speaks to the fact that Tim wont ask silly or repeat questions. Considering Elon is perpetually short on time, doing one interview with someone incredibly competent in the field means a better use of time for both parties.
@@caspermartijn Elon seems to enjoy being interviewed by Tim much more then mainstream journalists, where he tends to get repetitively asked simple questions in order to get soundbytes. He doesn't need PR to sell more product but does interviews and presentations to attract talented engineers to work for him and to inspire younger generations into becoming more interested in the field and perhaps pursuing engineering careers.
It’s crazy how Tim went from asking only one question to Elon at a conference and tweeting him along with many other journalists to actually touring all of Starbase with Elon. Tim has gone very far in his career and will go even farther!
I really like the straightforward, non-nonsense conversation. Elon not trying to gloss over mistakes, Tim not doing slick editing, just honest questions and answers. Walking around the site makes everything that much more real. Well done.
It's not that Elon wasn't trying to not gloss over mistakes. Buddy said something that just made more sense. If you have some humility you don't even think about the mistake part or being wrong you just focus on the next progression.
And it's hard to call them mistakes when it's the first time for some of these things ever being used. I guess a mistake in the sense it didn't do what they intended.
Kids of the next generation are going to have a shock when they realise that Mine Craft doesn’t actually build stuff in real life?...haha I bet NONE of the workers doing the heavy lifting and actual building of that giant mechano set ever even touched an iPad in their early years!! Like Elon said over and over - the design process is the easy part. Hope he’s paying his engineers enough bitcoins! Haha Amazing times!! 👏🏻🙏🏻🤓🚀
The one thing I liked was how comfortable his employees are around him because he actually works on the line. They almost don't even notice he's there.
This is the kind of access an interviewer can get when they're asking genuine questions, in good faith and with genuine interest - not like the majority of the scoop-hunting or 'gotcha' press, mining for clickbait. Brilliant job Tim, one of the best and most enlightening pieces of SpaceX media to date.
@@rifz42 do you have a timestamp for me? I can remember that there was something about a Design change but i just wanna listen once more and cant find it
Wonderful video. For me personally, the best learning moment was at 17:30 when Elon said “Possibly the most common error of a smart engineer is to optimize a thing that should not exist.” That is truly wonderful advice, if you chose to take it as such and not a simple statement.
@@ReeshawIt's because some times the best part is no part. Meaning, complexity leaves more points of possible failure. I'd come up with some basic examples, however, that's your job, now. 🤠
"It's particularly dangerous if a smart person gave you the requirements...". So good to see Elon Musk so relaxed and engaged. He clearly relished the opportunity to get so much of his design philosophy and principles across. Just the best SpaceX video to date.
Yes, its the kind of sage knowledge/advice that makes you laugh because it really resonates. (Laughter is nothing more than us resonating when we encounter a truth)
Tim is a really good interviewer for him, he's extremely knowledgeable and knows the right questions to ask, and also knows how to steer the conversation (I have autism like Elon and tangents are always flaring off in my mind too). I cringe at some of the questions other interviewers have asked him because they are usually so clueless. Anyway, I know there are more parts to this coming up, but I hope Tim gets to have many interviews with Elon as SpaceX continues to evolve; this will be an important part of history to record.
What I find fascinating as I rewatch this interview is the workers don’t seem Aw-struck or surprised to see Elon out on the tarmac. He obviously is out there working with his team every day and seeing him is a normal day-to-day thing. Leading by example.
@@HAM6BONE9 idk what you’re talking about man the dude wonders around and asks questions all the time, the concern it always being extra cautious moving heavy equipment when he’s just wondering around on his own
This is why you need a technical ceo for a tech heavy company. He is clearly deeply knowledgeable about the subject and the trade-offs of the decisions being made. Very impressive.
despite all the people who try to rag on Musk for not being a "real engineer", he sure seems to have learned a lot about engineering. A CEO who actually listens to his engineers and understands his product is pretty rare these days.
Definitely, another one I know is the CEO of 'United Launch Alliance' - 'Smarter Every Day' Destin (accidentally wrote Justin, corrected now) made a video touring their factory. Highly recommended video.
This content is supreme. I can’t imagine ever seeing a piece like this produced by a mainstream media outlet, nor would they know how to talk the talk. Exquisite viewing for the interested!
Great point, and based on your existing knowledge... It's like your comment is kinda like the kind of insight that it is itself in reference to. Ouch I think I just half pretzel-paradoxed myself
Yea common media are not designed for this kind content, they need to sell ads and create mood nodes over tv in heads of a viewers. But youtube platform is excelent place for a content creators, i pray it will stay open like this for everyone.
Interviewers who know and understand the topic in question are the way to go these days. Normal old school journalism is on its way out and has been for a while. There's nothing worse than listen to or reading an article from a person who is completely ignorant on the subject matter. It's fine for general news. >
I expected an hour of interview to be a slog. I am positively surprised. there's literally no boring filler, no bullshit. This man knows what he's talking about. the time just flies.
you mean when Elon insisted on writing his own clumsy code for Xpay, then tried to fire actual software engineers to design software with 10x efficiency and 1/4 the code?
@@ct1762 his insights are based on a lifetime of experience. That’s how progress is made. Most of his mistakes would have been made early in his career. Then he learned, improved, and moved on. It’s an iterative process. Now he’s a few years away from building the first fully reusable rocket and putting humans on Mars.
Imagine if RUclips had been around in years gone by and there were interviews like this with people like Brunel, Edinson, Tesla, Watt etc. Tim this is epic.
It's fascinating hearing Elon talk. You can almost see the gears in his mind turning every time he speaks, like he's constantly trying to improve on the very advances in rocketry he's talking about.
So true! I get the vibe that it takes him the same amount of effort to explain and reduce his intelligence to simple logic as it does for me to absorb advanced concepts - except he actually succeeds in his efforts Lolol
Elon's mind is half controlled chaos... at his speeds, gears would spin their teeth off. Elon has a hard time slowing his mind down enough to communicate coherently. Elon is a dynamo!
You are probably here for this part 45:06 when Elon shows how he isn't arrogant, and notices he could do an improvement because of the conversation. Most people would just not accept improvements, just because it came from someone they deem beneath them. Elon isn't like that. Respect!
@@Mosern1977 well when you Simplify then you remove parts or processes most of the time and to "Accelerate cycle time" you often automate stuff. so we can just combine 2+3 and 4+5 :)
I get the feeling Elon really likes and values having these conversations with Tim. He is actively making considerations in possible changes throughout the talk. I really enjoy getting to see the way Elon thinks about problems, and isn't afraid to point out his failures and how he learned from them.
Also, I don’t think I’ve ever seen him spend so much time with a RUclipsr! MKBHD and others have talked with him, but it’s usually like they’re graced with 30 minutes at most. You can just tell Elon lives and breathes this stuff and Starbase is probably his favorite place to be
He's glad to have a break from all the news reporters who know absolutely nothing about space. Like that women who asked him (in full seriousness) if they could find pink aliens on mars.
The fact that I'm watching Elon talk openly about how he runs the company and giving us so much info without needing to, FOR FREE, is just amazing to me
Whats amazing to me is, he talks about rocket science in basic language, so its easier to follow. I agree, give all the info for free. Lets all develop quicker together
We live in amazing times. You can watch one of the richest men in the world discuss how he runs one of his companies from the comfort of your own home.
The fact that people think that information like this should need to cost money 😆 this is two guys who are friendly discussing something they both love. ; that shouldn't cost money.
"You must have a name not a department" One of the wisest statements I have ever heard. How many processes exist solely because "It's always been done that way?"
If you look at the SpaceX job board online, most positions include the phrase "you will own [job description]". Not "your responsibilities will include", but "you will OWN". This is not only hugely empowering to the employee - who is essentially empowered to act as if they were a sole proprietor entrepreneur, with all the motivational impetus such unlimited risk/reward endeavours offer/impose - but, it's also hugely value added for the organization; no one gets to pass the buck to the department head and claim that they can only, or only have to perform as well as they are managed. Because the buck doesn't just stop at the department head; it stops with every single person in the department. You OWN your work. With all the potential up and down side that that implies.
That literally describes my job. People follow these rules simply because they're a rule or have always existed. They're more concerned with the rules than the product itself. We design per our rules and not per the product. Blows my mind.
Tim, this interview will go down in history. Imagine, in 200 years people will be watching this in history class to study the beginnings of interplanetary human exploration.
Yeah, definitely. I love how Tim adapted and corrected his approach when he started interrupting Elon multiple times. Most people don't get that. Well, correction: NOBODY EVER gets that before ruining a great interview. It's a difficult thing to master, particularly with someone like Elon, because his speech is always punctuated with long, awkward pauses where he's busy formulating the next words out of his mouth - and interviewers just LOVE to jump in right there in interrupt the process. Elon always tends to roll right over top of them, anyway, when they do that. But he only had to do it 2 or 3 times with Tim, and then Tim started shutting up until it was clear Elon was totally done speaking. Great job!
I worked in a relatively small scoreboard factory. He is 100% correct. 1% design and R&D and 99% R&D manufacturing, and its a NEVER ending process. There are always ways to push more, increase quality and increase profits, all while balancing out making the workers happy. Alot of the time as well, tooling is special, so now you're putting R&D into making the tools that make your product.
Yeah. Once people understand that, it makes more sense why Musk is so adamant about cutting cost. Going from Carbon to Stainless Steel for the frame and tanks doesn't seem logical, until you realize that it would save you about 100,000 dollars on each prototype. You cut the cost of 99% of the project by 10-15%, you save shite tons of money.
Thanks for saving me writing this down myself. I love #2 and when said if there isn’t some “Re adding of dropped requirements” the your not deleting aggressively enough. I also loved that every requirement needs a person by name attached to it.
This list is the key insight to why SpaceX, Tesla, Boring, Neuralink, Dojo and everything else are so effective. Imagine if every manufacturer followed these principles.
sometimes it's easy to forget the scale of what this man has made. Seeing them walking through a small part of Starbase, with huge rockets, parts, engines, machinery, and people reminds us of the magnitude of work he and his team are doing. And that he knows and understands every detail of the whole rocket and its manufacturing system is truly astonishing
When he started out he didn’t know anything. He went to Russia for help from their rocket engineers. They weren’t really interested so he bought some books about rocket design and taught himself.
And this is just the beginning. Even at the scale to support Starlink launches, Artemis, and tourist flights around the Moon you're looking at a couple more highbays, the Phobos and Deimos rigs out at sea and all the oceangoing infrastructure to support all that.
And also the number of regular folks who are getting paid and whose families and communities are being supported because of SpaceX. I often get very annoyed at people who say he ought to be spending his wealth on eliminating poverty... well here is a man creating jobs for crane drivers, riggers, welders, metal works, administrators, engineers, plumbers, electricians etc etc etc
@@viceice He hasn't spent his money on yachts and mansion and private islands, has he? He's plowing it right back into the working economy while returning America to a leadership role. Too bad we had to turn to a South African man to do it.
@@viceice so many people say. 'why is he spendning on space instead of earth?' like as if he going to space and throwing money there. Going to space means paying hard working smart people here on Earth. But no, they want to 'distribute' money to people who don't want to work hard and learn a skill.
I’m honestly really impressed by how humble Elon is in this vid. He doesn’t seem like the narcissist the media makes him out to me, he’s very aware of his shortcomings and he will tell you when he was wrong
I love how Elon is walking around and none of the employees are looking at him like "wow - the boss is out here" because the boss is ALWAYS out there. Good on you Elon! Running this huge company like a small startup.
This really is incredible Tim. Not only for informing everyday people, but also for documenting a project that will totally alter the course of history.
If there's only one way for humanity to go, to the stars, we'd most likely measure our historical periods through advancement in space flight. Reusable rockets would mark an end to the early Space Era of Sputnik, Apollo and Shuttle, ushering in a Space Renaissance of sorts.
This interview with Elon Musk should be required watching for all students. The sheer amount of knowledge he just regurgitated like he was just bullshitting with a best buddy from high school. The thought level that he speaks on, the energy that he speaks with, and the thoroughness of his knowledge is astounding.
This is where you see Elon's passion, Not in an interview room but out on the field in his element. I truly admire this man and Dam glad I am alive during this epic movement.
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47:52 i love that moment like literally giving musk an idea that change the system to improve his ship and being thanked and given credits like that by him must be awesome
I'm curious how much self-censoring there is going on in his head. Like I can't mention that that's still top secret, oh crap I that would make a good point but that's still proprietary info
@@TheAquaticMandolin i mean he made Tesla patents open source and couldn't care less about hundreds of cameras recording Starbase open factory every second. They are so ahead of the competition that spilling secrets wouldn't matter at all haha.
@@TheAquaticMandolin not just that, but I always sense that he's constantly struggling to find and limit himself to uttering the most cogent point in response, drawing from a brain overflowing with hundreds of almost equally cogent and interdependent points on just about every technical question. It almost seems to pain him to have to emote to a lay audience. I picture him down in the trenches with the engineering and technician teams and the words just flowing freely out, no hesitation, because he's finally able to verbalize as technically and esoterically, at the same level his brain functions.
I genuinely feel like I, personally, just spent almost an hour walking and talking to Elon ...... can't describe how awesome this video is!! A heartfelt THANK YOU to the whole team!
The 5 step process: 1)Make requirements less "dumb" 2)Delete parts/process (if you're not adding then you're not deleting enough) 3)Simplify/Optimize (don't optimize if it shouldn't exist) 4)Accelerate cycle times (work on the previous 3 steps first and don't dig your "grave" faster) 5)Automate (don't reverse these 5 steps backwards) correct me if I'm wrong but that's what I got. Ty
Say what you want to about Elon, this man is a mental powerhouse the amount of information that he processes each one of the things he talked about from robotics to engineering to rocketry to production lines is all its own field, and he’s not a master of all of those necessarily, but he has more than a working knowledge of all of them, and can weave them together. And it also shows how hard it is to have groups of people working together that’s what most of the CEOs job is is getting the kings out of people, not communicating, etc..
Musk's algorithm for optimal design: 1 - Make the requirements less dumb. 2 - Delete the part or process 3 - Simplify or Optimize the part or process 4 - Accelerate cycle time 5 - Automate
This interview makes me incredibly happy. The fact that there is a billionaire this interested in geeking out on space and simplifying manufacturing for humans.
I think some of that is due to the fact that he is a billionaire BECAUSE he loves geeking out on things. This is Elon at his core. Tim has given us pure RUclips gold with this video.
I have issues with all the billionaires, but Elon is by far the least painful to society. He made his original fortune selling Paypal, cool. He makes his billions flipping the table on the Big car and Aerospace manufactures that have been stuck in 1960's living fat, I have no problem. He funnels it into a actual cheap rocket launch system. Which is one of the coolest things ever done. I just have a problem with some of his... eccentrics, and that his companies treat many of it's employees as disposable. I will add again the caveat this all pales in comparison to that hoarding dragon, Jeff Bezos flying a junk pleasure cruise rocket suborbital.
@@j78513 That's because most of them are actually disposable, I don't understand why you think it's a billionaire thing, that's how the world works on any scale. I also don't understand why you care what Bezos does with his money. All your rhetoric reeks of resentment.
I have been a manufacturing engineer my whole career and have fought the same issues Elon has been discussing. I have not been as succesful from the manufacturing pulpit as Elon and have mostly been dismissed. My career is winding down but am inspired by listening to Elon. Thanks Tim.
The fact that Elon Musk himself is giving you a tour around his facility that will literally alter the course of humanity is truly awe-inspiring, great work Tim.
Come on bro you’re acting like its such a special opportunity that Tim should find the first quiet corner and immediately do a dive maneuver to suck him off right then and there. Obviously Elon is generous with his time, but lets remember SpaceX needs to fundraise and he already has a wide, sophisticated and differently structured investors in his capital stack; he needs to recruit, at a new location that is relative rural I(if you’ve ever been), and he has a very careful relationship with government he might need to sell to and/or be regulated by, and Elon is defacto writing his own biography by de-empowering his author (hi...s last biographer made fun of how he ate, stirred stuff up with old marriage, had a section that seemed to re-trudge terminating an assistant..ot that the biographer was incorrect, but this “direct to consumer” approach he’s taking eliminates some of the potential attack the next biographer could yield) So what I’m saying is that if its a suck off like you’re panning it out to be maybe it’s closer to a 69, and you should give Tim some credits. We know who’s the big dog, but like, there’s win-win value being created here.
I think elon has always appreciated tim's enthusiasm during interviews and on twitter. kinda cool that tim's able to get this kind of engagement from elon now
A few hundred years from now , kids in school will be learning in their history classes about Elon Musk like we learned about the Wright Brothers. We are going through a special time right now with this brilliant man.
Can we just appreciate that Elon has done this tour with Tim, not a big news corp or whatever, Tim who is in the grassroots of the community he provides content to. Makes you wonder if Elon is wanting to reach the younger generations by something more modern like RUclips.
Elon absolutely wants to connect with anyone he can. This is why he let's LabPadre and NSF cams remain so close to the pad! Gotta reach everyone in whatever manner possible.
Tim is so on to it. He knows what he talking about, isn't just asking some else's prescribed questions, is intelligent enough to keep up with Elons brain spewing numbers left right and centre. There are very few people who could not only keep up but functionally contribute in a meaningful, seriously meaningful way.
Yeah! so true Also in the case of process/steps optimisation We get deeply obsessed with optimising a step/process and become clogged to see better alternatives or even to see if its a necessary process/step
This is 1000x amazing, for the nerds at least, at the eve of most historic event of our times. You get to interview the man who is the source of it all and he is not holding back so much but trying to explain himself very attentively.
Elon's five production rules summarised: 1. Make your requirements less dumb. 2. Delete the part of process step. If you're not adding stuff back in at least 10% of the time, you're clearly not deleting enough! 3. Simplify or Optimise. 4. Accelerate Cycle Time. You're moving too slowly, go faster! But don't go faster until you have worked on the other three things first! Like if you're digging you're grave, don't dig it faster. Stop digging you're grave. ( 21:42 flow overdose on video :D ) 5. And then the final step is automate. So insightful :)
Tim: Almost any other channel or program would be editing this down (hard) to fit some sort of concept of viewer digestibility. Which would be a huge loss. Well done, looking forward to the following segments!
"All designs are wrong - just how wrong" His perspective is of a true engineer. There is always a better way and we humans must test the limits to see what is possible. Elon you rock!
Disagree that this is about engineering and manufacturing. It’s about what Elon said in the TED interview - BE USEFUL for the good of humanity. It does not matter what work you do…
1. Make your requirements less dumb 2. Delete the part or process step: if you're not adding things back in at least 10% of the time, you're not deleting enough 3. Simplify or optimise: this is not an earlier step since the most common error is to optimise a part or process that shouldn't even exist. 4. Accelerate cycle time 5. Automate NTO - nitrogen tetroxide ; MMH - monomethyl hydrazine ; LMD - lunar module descent ;
I loved this. It demonstrates one of the reaosns he's so successful. Always open to new ideas no matter what the source. He doesn't think he knows everything. That's rare among people of his intelligence.
@@randyfox364 it's towards the end. Around 40 minutes I think. They were talking about using the leftover hot gases in the tank, ullage, to maneuver. They were only planning on it for the booster, but based on their conversation now Elon says they will also consider it for Starship.
In the space of a couple of minutes, "if everything around you is crying wolf, you just tune it out" & "all designs are wrong just a matter of how wrong". Love this thought process.
His intelligence; how his mind works in different levels; his thoughts in different directions; is incredible! His mouth cannot speak out fast enough all the information he is trying to channel out of his head while at the same time he is processing more in different directions at the same time. For this tipe of men all will be crazy if they cannot take actions in making those ideas real. One reason why he works a zillion hours a week, sleeps on the factory floor like a caveman, doesn't shower because there's no time, sell his homes because there is no use for them, or had many marriages because his daily life is a non stop whirlwind that makes them impossible. This is a genius of our times. We should enjoy his presence while we could. What a ride Elon is giving us!
I love that Elon is literally revising the design of Starship in his head as we watch based on the questions Tim is asking. That is incredible!!! Amazing how Elon can completely dismiss his ego at will to accept any question (even from a RUclipsr) as possibly a better idea than his initial idea.
Nicholas Thon I am well aware of that. And I also know that Elon is well aware of that, as this is not remotely their first interaction. My point is, not many other billionaire CEO’s would listen so attentively to someone from the media interviewing them to say: “thats a good idea, maybe we’ll do that.” and mean it.
When talking about utilising waste hot gases for thrusters on Superheavy, Tim puts a point about using it for Starship and Elon thinks about it and says yes, we should look at doing that to. Someone who is willing to look at a possibility no matter where the suggestion came from. This is THE best interview with Elon ever. Can't wait for parts 2 and 3.
I can’t picture a world without Elon Musk. I’m glad I’m alive at this period where I can truly see and appreciate all he is doing in real time!No one can compare! Long live Elon! ❤️
At 45 mins in Elon is like, “now that you mention it, we probably need to do that” this was the day “everyday astronaut” changed space technology for the better 😃
Tim having this level of knowledge to engage Elon in such a detailed conversation is just astonishing. Fact that he is so open about his failures and overcoming them is so inspiring. Great job y'all ❤️
I'd say the honest interview by Elon; the inspiring stories and willingness to pull the curtain back on all the processes, failures and efforts to achieve it all is what's inspiring
You're that meme guy where they try to make it look like Elon Musk had no time for you. It's clear as day he's excited to tell you about what they have going on at SpaceX. Good for you. Thanks for the video, man.
The engineering process from Musk's experience: 1 - make requirements less dumb 2 - try very hard to delete steps of the process 3 - simplify / optimize 4 - accelerate cycle time 5 - automate
@@irvine175 Making requirements less dumb means several things, but essentially language and our use of it is not good at resolving implicit information and vagueness. For example, if you were tasked with making a coffee cup, and there's a requirement like "the handle should fit a finger." Well, there are a number of problems here: who's finger should it fit, since people have different sized fingers. Which finger are we talking about? What if there is another requirement that says "This cup should have no handles" Essentially, we want to have requirements that are precise and target a specific concern. Perhaps a better requirement here is "the cup should provide means for the user to hold it comfortably without burning their fingers."
I love seeing Elon get asked a "simple" question, start to explain it, realize there's a caveat, split off into another tangent, then there's full tree of conversation path, then it ends with "So. . . yeah"
45:07 Seeing Elon consider the addition of thrusters to starship was a testament to his earlier statements about everyone being chief engineer; ideas come from everywhere!
Watch the new one he actually did it ...like nothing about this guy is fake but everything he does is so insane how can it be real but it is what a god
good job tim on just letting elon talk. even when hes taking a break thinking, most interviewers interupt with new thoughts and questions, you let him talk. thats where the good stuff lies is in that deep thinking hes doing.
Look, after reading his biography, and podcasts, I realized that he is not normal. But it amazes me that basically the richest man in the world, knows the nuts and bolts of his own machines. It is simply remarkable how well he understands his work. And and then he is very nice about telling us all about it.
I think people of the world would rather see Elon and how unique he is, rather than Bill Gates(don't get me wrong, I appreciate him and respect his work!) where he just gives you the quiet nerdy kid vibes lol.
As an engineer, I feel like the 5 step process Elon is describing will be used as best practices for centuries to come in optimizing designs. There is some serious historical value here.
I mean nothing he said was over the top or novel, it's more the will to execute and the drive to see it done. Not many billionaires will sit on the assembly line to try to fix the process, or even understand how their process works enough to be able to contribute. Knowing the owner knows more than you is probably terrifying and awesome at the same time.
Its not some magic visionary idea, per se. Its just the sort of process that would get you written up and spoken to by management if you dared to talk that way in a traditional organization. Its the sort of thinking that really pisses off people who like protecting their established positions and feelings of clout.
The step about attaching " ideas " or " requirements " to a named person and never a group or department was outstanding... and like he said... learned of experience.. the hard way. The actual antipathy of large companies and Government contractors/Government programs. The quip about Dilbert and the battery blanket was great too..
OK, I've changed my mind about Elon after watching this. The guy is absolutely, insanely brilliant. I work in the aerospace industry and he has Dilbert-like insights into what my company is doing wrong.
I'm impressed. Elon gets it. Design isn't everything. My Dad was a machinist for 27 years. Those guys have to take the perfect-but-impossible designs from the engineers and then alter them enough so that machinery can actually turn them into reality.
I was thinking the same thing when Elon was talking about the challenge and skill being in the manufacturing not the design, as that's what I've heard from AvE - another great RUclips channel I'd recommend if you're interested in such things! (and aren't already familiar)!
@@keeli5575 most people laugh at Elon, but then he'll prove the entire industry wrong when he lands a booster, makes a mass manufacturerable electric car, and eventually will land on Mars. Elon's greatest strength as a leader is that everyone underestimates him.
People say that elon can't get starship orbital by the end of august, but I think they can if they push for the next few weeks. The only thing they cannot control is the FAA
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My father was an engineer and designer who specialized in developing manufacturing facilities and I grew up with an appreciation of how critical the optimization of manufacture is.
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Vastly Underrated. Also underrated is the design of the pad.
Hullo!!!!!
I've always admired the machines that make the machines in production, fascinating.
My job is to design and then make wooden jewelry and I´m saying for years, that i can make "anything" from wood, but its hard to design a make something, which make sense for me to make and then sell:) Funny that you can compare something so basic, that I make, with something so complex like making reusable rocket system and assambly line:)
Can we just appreciate how absolutely insane it is that Tim pulled this off?? Hats off to you & the entire team - seeing you tour Starbase with its creator is seriously inspirational.
well he also finally has the one million subscribers he deserves!
I remember few months ago, he said that this was going to happen, it was just a matter of getting the timing right
good seeing Soyan here!
We couldnt be more blessed to be a part of this adventure...
- - - > Yes, thank you Tim (his team) and Elon for sharing this!
- - - - - - - > I especially enjoyed Elon's 5 step process and the explanation breakdown of that process!
(For anyone interested, check out Booster 3 Static Fire with no sound delay over on my channel)
Elon mentioned on Twitter that he didn’t shower for five days prior to the interview for lack of time, the whole team being in surge mode for the first orbital launch. The fact that he granted you (and us) a 2 hours interview speaks volume to the esteem he holds you in. Congratulation to you and your team Tim!
Or it's simply good PR for SpaceX?
@@Peter-bg1ku Do they need pr? And why with such a small media outlet?
@@caspermartijn well they are getting free publicity though he knows it
It also speaks to the fact that Tim wont ask silly or repeat questions. Considering Elon is perpetually short on time, doing one interview with someone incredibly competent in the field means a better use of time for both parties.
@@caspermartijn Elon seems to enjoy being interviewed by Tim much more then mainstream journalists, where he tends to get repetitively asked simple questions in order to get soundbytes.
He doesn't need PR to sell more product but does interviews and presentations to attract talented engineers to work for him and to inspire younger generations into becoming more interested in the field and perhaps pursuing engineering careers.
You gotta love it when the interviewer is actually knowledgeable on the topic so you can have awesome moments like this: 45:00
and then during his next interview Elon claimed it was his idea
@@steinanderson Because it was his idea
@@azhwanhaghiri6336 haha stan loser
@@azhwanhaghiri6336
I mean... I guess?
if you put enough time and enough dedication, everyone could be an asset to spaceX
we all have the intelligence, we dont have the energy
It’s crazy how Tim went from asking only one question to Elon at a conference and tweeting him along with many other journalists to actually touring all of Starbase with Elon. Tim has gone very far in his career and will go even farther!
I think the key is that unlike most of the reporters Tim was asking questions that were technically in depth
He's gonna be one of the first 5000 people on Mars.
I'm pretty certain he will be picked for dear moon.
I bet raw space is jealous
Elon really only interviews with impartial followers. Like Jay Leno, picks his interviews
I really like the straightforward, non-nonsense conversation. Elon not trying to gloss over mistakes, Tim not doing slick editing, just honest questions and answers. Walking around the site makes everything that much more real. Well done.
It's not that Elon wasn't trying to not gloss over mistakes. Buddy said something that just made more sense. If you have some humility you don't even think about the mistake part or being wrong you just focus on the next progression.
And it's hard to call them mistakes when it's the first time for some of these things ever being used. I guess a mistake in the sense it didn't do what they intended.
Kids of the next generation are going to have a shock when they realise that Mine Craft doesn’t actually build stuff in real life?...haha I bet NONE of the workers doing the heavy lifting and actual building of that giant mechano set ever even touched an iPad in their early years!!
Like Elon said over and over - the design process is the easy part.
Hope he’s paying his engineers enough bitcoins! Haha
Amazing times!! 👏🏻🙏🏻🤓🚀
The one thing I liked was how comfortable his employees are around him because he actually works on the line. They almost don't even notice he's there.
@@Jayess-c or they just for the memo about filming and were asked to try and ignore it/look as if nothing was happening :)
This is the kind of access an interviewer can get when they're asking genuine questions, in good faith and with genuine interest - not like the majority of the scoop-hunting or 'gotcha' press, mining for clickbait. Brilliant job Tim, one of the best and most enlightening pieces of SpaceX media to date.
I like that he asked a question that started Elon thinking about changing the design.
@@rifz42 do you have a timestamp for me? I can remember that there was something about a Design change but i just wanna listen once more and cant find it
stop it , this was an illusion
@@johnwhorfin5150 bruh what 😂
Business Insider will NEVER get this sort of access….for example.
Wonderful video. For me personally, the best learning moment was at 17:30 when Elon said “Possibly the most common error of a smart engineer is to optimize a thing that should not exist.” That is truly wonderful advice, if you chose to take it as such and not a simple statement.
What does it even mean practically? I didn’t quite get that and what does that have to do with school/college?
@@ReeshawIt's because some times the best part is no part.
Meaning, complexity leaves more points of possible failure.
I'd come up with some basic examples, however, that's your job, now. 🤠
@@williamtsmith966847:52
@@Elonmusklk6zy47:52
@@Reeshawthis is relevant to most aspects of life.
"It's particularly dangerous if a smart person gave you the requirements...". So good to see Elon Musk so relaxed and engaged. He clearly relished the opportunity to get so much of his design philosophy and principles across. Just the best SpaceX video to date.
Yes, its the kind of sage knowledge/advice that makes you laugh because it really resonates. (Laughter is nothing more than us resonating when we encounter a truth)
Tim is a really good interviewer for him, he's extremely knowledgeable and knows the right questions to ask, and also knows how to steer the conversation (I have autism like Elon and tangents are always flaring off in my mind too). I cringe at some of the questions other interviewers have asked him because they are usually so clueless. Anyway, I know there are more parts to this coming up, but I hope Tim gets to have many interviews with Elon as SpaceX continues to evolve; this will be an important part of history to record.
Just amazing to get a real insight into manufacturing and engineering. Makes me think differently about software engineering things
@@KatharineOsborne Tim is very good isn’t he. Think they genuinely get on so Elon open ups to him.
Best video to date… part 1/3 😵
Love how he can just talk to Elon like a friend and not some corporate billionaire. Amazing interview!
You won't see Jeff whatshisname or Branson doing tours like this, and explaining things to this level.
@@amcadam26 bezos.
@@Noam-Bahar yeah who knows maybe Jeff will let Tim film too
@@Noam-Bahar yeah Tory and Elon are both engineers and true rocket guys. Bezos is just a fame/money hungry guy who mocks his slave laborers
@@amcadam26 Jeff and Richard are entrepreneurs not engineers - so unlikely to do the guided tour.
I love how Elon references things from Tim's videos, the fact that he's a fan is so cool.
Not just his vids, but is up on the up and coming ones.
Pretty sure his wardrobe is half everyday astronaut merch.
Amazing video
you can tell he is far more comfortable talking to Tim than almost everybody else, I was used to hear him stutter in every sentence!
Elon said at the end that Tim had given him an idea for less complexity .
And Tim was asking lots of good questions .
What I find fascinating as I rewatch this interview is the workers don’t seem Aw-struck or surprised to see Elon out on the tarmac. He obviously is out there working with his team every day and seeing him is a normal day-to-day thing. Leading by example.
yeah right, doubt they let the workers anywhere near him. especially the ones he union busted because he was such a nice boss lmfao
@@HAM6BONE9 What? lmao
@@HAM6BONE9 idk what you’re talking about man the dude wonders around and asks questions all the time, the concern it always being extra cautious moving heavy equipment when he’s just wondering around on his own
I can’t imagine any mainstream media personality having this level of knowledge to engage Elon in such conversation. Great job Tim.
Lame stream media are over paid lazy communists.
@@mbukukanyau you realize most of, if not all, mainstream media are large corporations with pro capitalist bias right?
And the trust is there because they know each other for some time.
That's because they cover a variety of topics not just space travel...
I could the same thing on TESLA stuff but on this stuff I am a dummy.
This is why you need a technical ceo for a tech heavy company. He is clearly deeply knowledgeable about the subject and the trade-offs of the decisions being made. Very impressive.
despite all the people who try to rag on Musk for not being a "real engineer", he sure seems to have learned a lot about engineering. A CEO who actually listens to his engineers and understands his product is pretty rare these days.
Definitely, another one I know is the CEO of 'United Launch Alliance' - 'Smarter Every Day' Destin (accidentally wrote Justin, corrected now) made a video touring their factory. Highly recommended video.
@@cyrilio Tory Bruno is a wildly cool guy... That raw footage factory tour video Destin has is fantastic
I think most people would like their boss to listen to this man.
@@willyolio9590 real engineers call Elon the engineers engineer.
Anyone who says Elon is not an engineer doesn't know what engineering is.
This content is supreme. I can’t imagine ever seeing a piece like this produced by a mainstream media outlet, nor would they know how to talk the talk. Exquisite viewing for the interested!
Great point, and based on your existing knowledge... It's like your comment is kinda like the kind of insight that it is itself in reference to.
Ouch I think I just half pretzel-paradoxed myself
Yea common media are not designed for this kind content, they need to sell ads and create mood nodes over tv in heads of a viewers. But youtube platform is excelent place for a content creators, i pray it will stay open like this for everyone.
Interviewers who know and understand the topic in question are the way to go these days. Normal old school journalism is on its way out and has been for a while. There's nothing worse than listen to or reading an article from a person who is completely ignorant on the subject matter. It's fine for general news. >
Have to admit these kind of interviews make him more relatable and human. I really enjoy listening to him ramble on about everything. Amazing guy.👍
You are wrong the mainstream media have way better expert in science and 10 time more viewers.
I expected an hour of interview to be a slog. I am positively surprised. there's literally no boring filler, no bullshit. This man knows what he's talking about. the time just flies.
“Possibly, the most common error of a smart engineer is to optimize something that should not exist “ Gotta love this man.
you mean when Elon insisted on writing his own clumsy code for Xpay, then tried to fire actual software engineers to design software with 10x efficiency and 1/4 the code?
@@ct1762 how long ago was this?
A variation of that is "there's no bigger waste of time than doing perfectly that which shouldn't be done at all." 😊
@@ct1762 his insights are based on a lifetime of experience. That’s how progress is made. Most of his mistakes would have been made early in his career. Then he learned, improved, and moved on. It’s an iterative process. Now he’s a few years away from building the first fully reusable rocket and putting humans on Mars.
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Imagine if RUclips had been around in years gone by and there were interviews like this with people like Brunel, Edinson, Tesla, Watt etc.
Tim this is epic.
Hey don’t forget Einstein and Bohr :-)
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Imagine Akash
One would hope, that those hypothetical interviews, would have been as open and educational as this it.
they wouldnt have npc's
It's fascinating hearing Elon talk. You can almost see the gears in his mind turning every time he speaks, like he's constantly trying to improve on the very advances in rocketry he's talking about.
Totally! Tim suggests a different engine config and you can see Elon simulating it in is head, literally staring off into space.
So true! I get the vibe that it takes him the same amount of effort to explain and reduce his intelligence to simple logic as it does for me to absorb advanced concepts - except he actually succeeds in his efforts Lolol
I think its also part visualisation of what he is about to say. He barely stutters anymore. Much training has gone into getting that under check.
Elon's mind is half controlled chaos... at his speeds, gears would spin their teeth off. Elon has a hard time slowing his mind down enough to communicate coherently. Elon is a dynamo!
Totally. He came up with a few new idea's while talking. I understand why he want neuralink, speech is way to slow for him :)
You are probably here for this part 45:06 when Elon shows how he isn't arrogant, and notices he could do an improvement because of the conversation. Most people would just not accept improvements, just because it came from someone they deem beneath them. Elon isn't like that. Respect!
1. Make your requirements less dumb
2. Delete the part or process
3. Simplify or optimize
4. Accelerate cycle time
5. Automate
such good points!
Can we simplify and optimize these points? 5 must be stupid, we should get them down to 3.
@@Mosern1977 true!
@@Mosern1977 well when you Simplify then you remove parts or processes most of the time and to "Accelerate cycle time" you often automate stuff. so we can just combine 2+3 and 4+5 :)
@@Mosern1977 Would that not break rule 1?
I get the feeling Elon really likes and values having these conversations with Tim. He is actively making considerations in possible changes throughout the talk. I really enjoy getting to see the way Elon thinks about problems, and isn't afraid to point out his failures and how he learned from them.
Also, I don’t think I’ve ever seen him spend so much time with a RUclipsr! MKBHD and others have talked with him, but it’s usually like they’re graced with 30 minutes at most. You can just tell Elon lives and breathes this stuff and Starbase is probably his favorite place to be
I agree with you.
He's glad to have a break from all the news reporters who know absolutely nothing about space. Like that women who asked him (in full seriousness) if they could find pink aliens on mars.
He seems tired or preoccupied to but hes really putting in the effort to not make Tim feel uncomfortable. I cant stand ppl who bad mouth Elon.
Elon just wants to go to Mars..zero f*cks given till he makes that happen. Or he will do anything or take any idea that can make that happen.
The fact that I'm watching Elon talk openly about how he runs the company and giving us so much info without needing to, FOR FREE, is just amazing to me
Whats amazing to me is, he talks about rocket science in basic language, so its easier to follow. I agree, give all the info for free. Lets all develop quicker together
The more i watch this, the more i like this guy asking all kinds of questions. And elon answering non-justin trudeau style
There is no need for him to charge for an interview. That would be ridiculous.
We live in amazing times. You can watch one of the richest men in the world discuss how he runs one of his companies from the comfort of your own home.
The fact that people think that information like this should need to cost money 😆 this is two guys who are friendly discussing something they both love. ; that shouldn't cost money.
47:49 Elon thinks and concurs on Tims improvement suggestion.
Incredible moment, credit to Tim for such in depth knowledge of these rockets.
Could you please explain what was the suggestion of Tim in simple words, I just don't get it much
@@sahibahmed4106 Use Hot Gas Thrusters not just for boosters but ship too
"You must have a name not a department" One of the wisest statements I have ever heard.
How many processes exist solely because "It's always been done that way?"
That's almost life in a nutshell.
So true. I´m going to quote this at work whenever we are chasing some POR feature that is adding risk or complications for little apparent reason.
If you look at the SpaceX job board online, most positions include the phrase "you will own [job description]". Not "your responsibilities will include", but "you will OWN". This is not only hugely empowering to the employee - who is essentially empowered to act as if they were a sole proprietor entrepreneur, with all the motivational impetus such unlimited risk/reward endeavours offer/impose - but, it's also hugely value added for the organization; no one gets to pass the buck to the department head and claim that they can only, or only have to perform as well as they are managed. Because the buck doesn't just stop at the department head; it stops with every single person in the department. You OWN your work. With all the potential up and down side that that implies.
Its like Ford Production line 2.0
That literally describes my job. People follow these rules simply because they're a rule or have always existed. They're more concerned with the rules than the product itself. We design per our rules and not per the product. Blows my mind.
Tim, this interview will go down in history. Imagine, in 200 years people will be watching this in history class to study the beginnings of interplanetary human exploration.
You could say, he’s essentially balls deep in this topic for the memories.
40 seconds in and I already know this is the pinnacle of Space based RUclips content. You really are the man, Tim!
45:00 is a historical moment. Love it!
The fact that footage like this will tell the story of how humanity reached Mars in the future.... and we are here to live it, amazing!
@Train 2noplace He has never said "buy dogecoin". The rest are true but get that outta there.
@Train 2noplace Haha, appreciate it, thanks. I also agree with you.
The whole conversation about the folly of “Optimizing something that should not exist” is absolute genius.
I just went to a random part of the video and Elon says the phrase you quoted.
I swear I could hear Bezo frantically scribbling notes.
Brilliant
@@jackdaniell5258 I sure hope so
I'm 10 min in and I have the thought, "This is the best interview I've ever seen in my entire life.".
Yeah, definitely. I love how Tim adapted and corrected his approach when he started interrupting Elon multiple times. Most people don't get that. Well, correction: NOBODY EVER gets that before ruining a great interview. It's a difficult thing to master, particularly with someone like Elon, because his speech is always punctuated with long, awkward pauses where he's busy formulating the next words out of his mouth - and interviewers just LOVE to jump in right there in interrupt the process. Elon always tends to roll right over top of them, anyway, when they do that. But he only had to do it 2 or 3 times with Tim, and then Tim started shutting up until it was clear Elon was totally done speaking. Great job!
I worked in a relatively small scoreboard factory. He is 100% correct. 1% design and R&D and 99% R&D manufacturing, and its a NEVER ending process. There are always ways to push more, increase quality and increase profits, all while balancing out making the workers happy. Alot of the time as well, tooling is special, so now you're putting R&D into making the tools that make your product.
Yeah. Once people understand that, it makes more sense why Musk is so adamant about cutting cost. Going from Carbon to Stainless Steel for the frame and tanks doesn't seem logical, until you realize that it would save you about 100,000 dollars on each prototype. You cut the cost of 99% of the project by 10-15%, you save shite tons of money.
@@aauwhatitdo1582 1 penny saved on 1 million manufactured products = $10,000. Once you look at it like that the game changes
1. Make requirements less dumb 2. Delete part or process 3. Simplify or optimize 4. Accelerate cycle time 5. Automate
Thanks for saving me writing this down myself. I love #2 and when said if there isn’t some “Re adding of dropped requirements” the your not deleting aggressively enough. I also loved that every requirement needs a person by name attached to it.
This list is the key insight to why SpaceX, Tesla, Boring, Neuralink, Dojo and everything else are so effective. Imagine if every manufacturer followed these principles.
@@EdKaine What is Dojo?
6. Profit ??? lol
6 profit
This is the first time anyone has ever used “space ballet” and “mouse fart” in the same conversation. A truly historic interview, Tim.
@Ggl Lab1
... and orbital manoeuvring renamed as space ballet.
YES!
Only a fool would use Newtons.
@@ken-mb5cp
LOL. Demonsrably true.
(*Newtons)
@Ggl Lab1 good talk
@@STUCASHX Well in 2001 they waltzed to the Blue Danube.
sometimes it's easy to forget the scale of what this man has made. Seeing them walking through a small part of Starbase, with huge rockets, parts, engines, machinery, and people reminds us of the magnitude of work he and his team are doing. And that he knows and understands every detail of the whole rocket and its manufacturing system is truly astonishing
When he started out he didn’t know anything. He went to Russia for help from their rocket engineers. They weren’t really interested so he bought some books about rocket design and taught himself.
And this is just the beginning. Even at the scale to support Starlink launches, Artemis, and tourist flights around the Moon you're looking at a couple more highbays, the Phobos and Deimos rigs out at sea and all the oceangoing infrastructure to support all that.
And also the number of regular folks who are getting paid and whose families and communities are being supported because of SpaceX. I often get very annoyed at people who say he ought to be spending his wealth on eliminating poverty... well here is a man creating jobs for crane drivers, riggers, welders, metal works, administrators, engineers, plumbers, electricians etc etc etc
@@viceice He hasn't spent his money on yachts and mansion and private islands, has he? He's plowing it right back into the working economy while returning America to a leadership role. Too bad we had to turn to a South African man to do it.
@@viceice so many people say. 'why is he spendning on space instead of earth?' like as if he going to space and throwing money there. Going to space means paying hard working smart people here on Earth.
But no, they want to 'distribute' money to people who don't want to work hard and learn a skill.
I like both Elon and Tim genuine conversation sharing their knowledge and passion about what they care about. ❤
I’m honestly really impressed by how humble Elon is in this vid. He doesn’t seem like the narcissist the media makes him out to me, he’s very aware of his shortcomings and he will tell you when he was wrong
There is no why to get to were he is at without admitting your wrong in the past
You can’t be right. Only less wrong. -Elon Musk
This is the kind of video all the haters need to watch. It might change their perspective on the man.
@@goingballisticmotion5455 the only problem is they are not intrested about the truth
He is a narcissist but in the best way possible. A little narcissism is healthy
I love how Elon is walking around and none of the employees are looking at him like "wow - the boss is out here" because the boss is ALWAYS out there. Good on you Elon! Running this huge company like a small startup.
They probably don't even know who he is or what he looks like. It's just a job tbh.
@@Galactis1 i think they know who he is, like giga texas when all employees meet cybertruck
@@Galactis1 Considering how well known he is, I really doubt that.
@@Galactis1 how can you not know the richest person in the world if you work for his biggest project
They like "omg! That's Tim Dodd! I love that guy!"
This really is incredible Tim. Not only for informing everyday people, but also for documenting a project that will totally alter the course of history.
Not only for informing everyday people, but also for informing everyday astronauts.
@@shipwreck9146 I see what you did there
like when wolds collide will average citizen be able to be evacuated
And also for subtitling it!
If there's only one way for humanity to go, to the stars, we'd most likely measure our historical periods through advancement in space flight. Reusable rockets would mark an end to the early Space Era of Sputnik, Apollo and Shuttle, ushering in a Space Renaissance of sorts.
47:27 The moment that Elon refers to in the new tour video. Great job Tim, love your work and thanks for actively improving the starship. :)
Whats the name of the new tour video ?
Interviewer rocket guy should be getting a consulting fee paid by Elon
This interview with Elon Musk should be required watching for all students. The sheer amount of knowledge he just regurgitated like he was just bullshitting with a best buddy from high school. The thought level that he speaks on, the energy that he speaks with, and the thoroughness of his knowledge is astounding.
He was just BS'ing around. "There a bouts", he rounded everything off. It was about concepts and the basics.
😂😂😂😂
He just spits stuff out his mouth lol
You may have seen this already, but he also did an interview with Munro Live about Tesla, which was interesting.
He was just having fun lol
"we're gonna fix that" so dope to see Tim asking the right questions!
@Vicente Studer toward the end
always timestamp
@Vicente Studer 47:47
@Vicente Studer 47:45
47:24
This is where you see Elon's passion, Not in an interview room but out on the field in his element. I truly admire this man and Dam glad I am alive during this epic movement.
47:52 i love that moment like literally giving musk an idea that change the system to improve his ship and being thanked and given credits like that by him must be awesome
Waiting for Elon to speak whilst he thinks is a joy. Watching a genius at work is always inspirational. Well done Tim.
Was cool to see Tim just letting Elon think instead of jumping to a new question or adding to it.
I'm curious how much self-censoring there is going on in his head. Like I can't mention that that's still top secret, oh crap I that would make a good point but that's still proprietary info
@@TheAquaticMandolin i mean he made Tesla patents open source and couldn't care less about hundreds of cameras recording Starbase open factory every second. They are so ahead of the competition that spilling secrets wouldn't matter at all haha.
@@TheAquaticMandolin not just that, but I always sense that he's constantly struggling to find and limit himself to uttering the most cogent point in response, drawing from a brain overflowing with hundreds of almost equally cogent and interdependent points on just about every technical question.
It almost seems to pain him to have to emote to a lay audience. I picture him down in the trenches with the engineering and technician teams and the words just flowing freely out, no hesitation, because he's finally able to verbalize as technically and esoterically, at the same level his brain functions.
I genuinely feel like I, personally, just spent almost an hour walking and talking to Elon ...... can't describe how awesome this video is!! A heartfelt THANK YOU to the whole team!
The 5 step process:
1)Make requirements less "dumb"
2)Delete parts/process (if you're not adding then you're not deleting enough)
3)Simplify/Optimize (don't optimize if it shouldn't exist)
4)Accelerate cycle times (work on the previous 3 steps first and don't dig your "grave" faster)
5)Automate (don't reverse these 5 steps backwards)
correct me if I'm wrong but that's what I got. Ty
Thanks!
*if. You are not adding things BACK, you are not deleting enough *
@@TheHeavenman88 10% back is what he said, roughly obviously.
화성 갈끄야~~ 날 말리지 말아~~
You'll find these Elon principles in future lecture books, I'm certain
Say what you want to about Elon, this man is a mental powerhouse the amount of information that he processes each one of the things he talked about from robotics to engineering to rocketry to production lines is all its own field, and he’s not a master of all of those necessarily, but he has more than a working knowledge of all of them, and can weave them together. And it also shows how hard it is to have groups of people working together that’s what most of the CEOs job is is getting the kings out of people, not communicating, etc..
Musk's algorithm for optimal design:
1 - Make the requirements less dumb.
2 - Delete the part or process
3 - Simplify or Optimize the part or process
4 - Accelerate cycle time
5 - Automate
thanks, i was going to battle to remember it that well.
I was searching exactly for you and your my dear friend, thank you very much for this recap! I'm your 100th thumb up and I wish you the best!
I wrote down 3a. the requirement must come from a person not a department, because that seemed rather crucial 🙂
There's an unspoken 6th step: Do it in that order. His example of the Tesla battery mount was where they did it backward.
@@WouterSimonsPlus Wasn't that 1a
This interview makes me incredibly happy. The fact that there is a billionaire this interested in geeking out on space and simplifying manufacturing for humans.
I think some of that is due to the fact that he is a billionaire BECAUSE he loves geeking out on things. This is Elon at his core. Tim has given us pure RUclips gold with this video.
You can clearly see he’s down to earth.
His understanding of what he’s talking about is outshined by most of us
I have issues with all the billionaires, but Elon is by far the least painful to society. He made his original fortune selling Paypal, cool. He makes his billions flipping the table on the Big car and Aerospace manufactures that have been stuck in 1960's living fat, I have no problem. He funnels it into a actual cheap rocket launch system. Which is one of the coolest things ever done. I just have a problem with some of his... eccentrics, and that his companies treat many of it's employees as disposable. I will add again the caveat this all pales in comparison to that hoarding dragon, Jeff Bezos flying a junk pleasure cruise rocket suborbital.
Yeah now let him nerd out and explain how that absolute UNIT of a starship will make a safe re-entry from the Moon let alone Mars.....
@@j78513 That's because most of them are actually disposable, I don't understand why you think it's a billionaire thing, that's how the world works on any scale. I also don't understand why you care what Bezos does with his money. All your rhetoric reeks of resentment.
I have been a manufacturing engineer my whole career and have fought the same issues Elon has been discussing. I have not been as succesful from the manufacturing pulpit as Elon and have mostly been dismissed. My career is winding down but am inspired by listening to Elon.
Thanks Tim.
Thanks for putting in the time and effort in your career. I love my fellow engineers and applaud their efforts to make the world a better place.
This interview gonna be watched for many many many years to come.
The fact that Elon Musk himself is giving you a tour around his facility that will literally alter the course of humanity is truly awe-inspiring, great work Tim.
Come on bro you’re acting like its such a special opportunity that Tim should find the first quiet corner and immediately do a dive maneuver to suck him off right then and there. Obviously Elon is generous with his time, but lets remember SpaceX needs to fundraise and he already has a wide, sophisticated and differently structured investors in his capital stack; he needs to recruit, at a new location that is relative rural I(if you’ve ever been), and he has a very careful relationship with government he might need to sell to and/or be regulated by, and Elon is defacto writing his own biography by de-empowering his author (hi...s last biographer made fun of how he ate, stirred stuff up with old marriage, had a section that seemed to re-trudge terminating an assistant..ot that the biographer was incorrect, but this “direct to consumer” approach he’s taking eliminates some of the potential attack the next biographer could yield) So what I’m saying is that if its a suck off like you’re panning it out to be maybe it’s closer to a 69, and you should give Tim some credits. We know who’s the big dog, but like, there’s win-win value being created here.
@@zxsw85 Come on bro, you're acting like it's such a special opportunity that you have a voice
@@zxsw85 you have no idea what you’re talking about and it shows. Spouting random gibberish isn’t convincing anyone buddy.
They should give the tour guide a raise, he seems to know what he is talking about.
he should . otherwise it would be like sending a dress maker to interview a veterinarian. lol
🤣🤣
you are the guide :D
That guy talks a lot. I'm sure the boss would like him to less verbose.
@@illinidmd the interviewer is Tim Dodd, the Everyday Astronaut. You can give him a raise by supporting his Patreon. :)
Congratulations Tim on reaching this level of access - literally! 😀
I think elon has always appreciated tim's enthusiasm during interviews and on twitter. kinda cool that tim's able to get this kind of engagement from elon now
@@matthewwilliamson7419 completely agree 👍
@@matthewwilliamson7419 tim also knows what he is talking about lmao
It's probably a lot more enjoyable having a knowledgeable enthusiast rather than doing a standard media interview.
I want to work at SpaceX just so I can have better access to Tim. 😂
A few hundred years from now , kids in school will be learning in their history classes about Elon Musk like we learned about the Wright Brothers. We are going through a special time right now with this brilliant man.
Can we just appreciate that Elon has done this tour with Tim, not a big news corp or whatever, Tim who is in the grassroots of the community he provides content to. Makes you wonder if Elon is wanting to reach the younger generations by something more modern like RUclips.
Elon absolutely wants to connect with anyone he can. This is why he let's LabPadre and NSF cams remain so close to the pad! Gotta reach everyone in whatever manner possible.
Who do you want to fill out the first ships to Mars? It'll be our current children.
Who at Big News could have understood Elon. 👍👍
@@MikeCasey311 so true right?
@@shane6961 spot on. Honestly makes me so happy.
this is probably the longest interview/tour that elon has ever done. you can tell that he likes tim.
I think only the third row interview at his house was longer (3h+).
Tim is so on to it. He knows what he talking about, isn't just asking some else's prescribed questions, is intelligent enough to keep up with Elons brain spewing numbers left right and centre. There are very few people who could not only keep up but functionally contribute in a meaningful, seriously meaningful way.
@@bradclifton5248 yeah, gotta love Tim! He’s awesome. 😎
The bromance is strong! :)
@@redvintro like what?
"The most common error of a smart engineer is to optimize a part that should not exist." Elon Musk
Just wow... so true!
soyjack moment
Yeah! so true
Also in the case of process/steps optimisation
We get deeply obsessed with optimising a step/process and become clogged to see better alternatives or even to see if its a necessary process/step
And better is the enemy of good enough.
This is completely true in all engineering fields, specially in computer science at software engineering too
Have you seen the video
Elon Musk meets Post Malone
It’s hilarious!! 👽 😂
Thanks
“The most common error of a smart engineer is to optimize a thing that should not exist” - Elon
Wow scary, I read this as he said it.
18:00
This is the main joke for our Bachelor of Engineering school xD
Love these conversational videos with Elon. Some real gold nuggets of engineering are in here (for a non-engineer). Great work Tim!
This sentence will make history in Universities all around the world from now on to eternity.
Awesome job Tim. This is the “Holy Grail” of interviews. Can’t wait for the next edition.
I imagine there might be a few major TV channels that would be a little miffed that a youtube channel has been granted this level of access.
The Holy Grail of Holy Grails.
@@agatosh986 RUclipsrs are the new TV channels.
@@agatosh986 lol not miffed haha outrageous 😂
This is 1000x amazing, for the nerds at least, at the eve of most historic event of our times. You get to interview the man who is the source of it all and he is not holding back so much but trying to explain himself very attentively.
Can we take a moment to appreciate the humility and humor of Elon's shirt? It's literally an image of the smashed Cybertruck window! hahahahahaha
Came looking for this.
Yeah it’s official Tesla merch you can buy.
You should see what he did with all the rockets that blew up…
@@bertilhatt Actually, some of them are likely part of BN4 at this point, as everything's been recycled.
NO. It is arc reactor underneath.
Elon the iron Musk.
Elon's five production rules summarised:
1. Make your requirements less dumb.
2. Delete the part of process step. If you're not adding stuff back in at least 10% of the time, you're clearly not deleting enough!
3. Simplify or Optimise.
4. Accelerate Cycle Time. You're moving too slowly, go faster! But don't go faster until you have worked on the other three things first! Like if you're digging you're grave, don't dig it faster. Stop digging you're grave. ( 21:42 flow overdose on video :D )
5. And then the final step is automate.
So insightful :)
Tim: Almost any other channel or program would be editing this down (hard) to fit some sort of concept of viewer digestibility. Which would be a huge loss. Well done, looking forward to the following segments!
This
Great observation. So true. 👍🏻
Agreed! Leave in as much as possible!
Yes, this ^^^ !
also, surprisingly easy and comfortable to listen to the interview/discussion even with all the noise going on.
"All designs are wrong - just how wrong"
His perspective is of a true engineer. There is always a better way and we humans must test the limits to see what is possible. Elon you rock!
Indeed
Actually, Elon is not an Engineer. His actual work in the late 90s in software development was described as mediocre to bad.
He isn’t an engineer. He employs engineers.
The limits of the stone age you mean? Haha
Hes not an engineer fanboy
Pure engineering and manufacturing talk as an interview. This is gold.
Disagree that this is about engineering and manufacturing. It’s about what Elon said in the TED interview - BE USEFUL for the good of humanity. It does not matter what work you do…
1. Make your requirements less dumb
2. Delete the part or process step: if you're not adding things back in at least 10% of the time, you're not deleting enough
3. Simplify or optimise: this is not an earlier step since the most common error is to optimise a part or process that shouldn't even exist.
4. Accelerate cycle time
5. Automate
NTO - nitrogen tetroxide ; MMH - monomethyl hydrazine ; LMD - lunar module descent ;
Oh my god it's here 🥳🥳🥳
Mr. Bad hand lowne
Yo Matt how are you?
When are you starting lowne aerospace city?
Holy crap the legend has arrived
There all here
As a retired Engineer and Physicist I was mesmerized listening to the free flowing conversation. it flew by, cannot wait for part two!
I'm curious what did you work on back in the day??
Yeah what were u working on back in the day?
What was is that you were working on in days gone by?
Pray, do tell what you laboured at in the days of yore.
Wat wer u sayin for tyme doe, fam?
I'm wondering how it feels when you walk around your own space company and see only cars of your own car company ^^
So weird I was just about to type that. Probably the most badass thing
What a dream
I was just thinking bout that. Real Power i see. Lets take a walk down elons amusement space park 😂
That's nothing what elon concerns in the first place :)
Like a real Peter Weyland.
this might be the most legendary interview ever
The moment Tim asks a relatively benign question and it leads to Elon redesigning a Starship system on the spot. Priceless!
I loved this. It demonstrates one of the reaosns he's so successful. Always open to new ideas no matter what the source. He doesn't think he knows everything. That's rare among people of his intelligence.
I was speechless
@@agitatorjr where is the timestamp to this?
@@randyfox364 45:03
@@randyfox364 it's towards the end. Around 40 minutes I think. They were talking about using the leftover hot gases in the tank, ullage, to maneuver. They were only planning on it for the booster, but based on their conversation now Elon says they will also consider it for Starship.
In the space of a couple of minutes, "if everything around you is crying wolf, you just tune it out" & "all designs are wrong just a matter of how wrong". Love this thought process.
His intelligence; how his mind works in different levels; his thoughts in different directions; is incredible! His mouth cannot speak out fast enough all the information he is trying to channel out of his head while at the same time he is processing more in different directions at the same time. For this tipe of men all will be crazy if they cannot take actions in making those ideas real. One reason why he works a zillion hours a week, sleeps on the factory floor like a caveman, doesn't shower because there's no time, sell his homes because there is no use for them, or had many marriages because his daily life is a non stop whirlwind that makes them impossible. This is a genius of our times. We should enjoy his presence while we could. What a ride Elon is giving us!
@@pixsilvb9638 Are you his hagiographer?
an example of how a law (construction equipment must make a beeper warning sound) can create a situation warranting its own obsolescence.
@@pixsilvb9638 *Not a cult*
Spoken like a true innovator....
I love that Elon is literally revising the design of Starship in his head as we watch based on the questions Tim is asking. That is incredible!!! Amazing how Elon can completely dismiss his ego at will to accept any question (even from a RUclipsr) as possibly a better idea than his initial idea.
Tim is a smart guy, I wouldn’t just throw “RUclipsr” at him.
Nicholas Thon I am well aware of that. And I also know that Elon is well aware of that, as this is not remotely their first interaction. My point is, not many other billionaire CEO’s would listen so attentively to someone from the media interviewing them to say:
“thats a good idea, maybe we’ll do that.” and mean it.
When talking about utilising waste hot gases for thrusters on Superheavy, Tim puts a point about using it for Starship and Elon thinks about it and says yes, we should look at doing that to.
Someone who is willing to look at a possibility no matter where the suggestion came from.
This is THE best interview with Elon ever. Can't wait for parts 2 and 3.
@@rayro999 Ego is the enemy of big projects and aspirations.
It was great to see that real time fork in the road.
I can’t picture a world without Elon Musk. I’m glad I’m alive at this period where I can truly see and appreciate all he is doing in real time!No one can compare! Long live Elon! ❤️
@@Elonmusklk6zy Texas
@@Hef119 you're so welcome my friend, it's really a pleasure to have you here.
@@Hef119
what's your name If I may know more about you.
At 45 mins in Elon is like, “now that you mention it, we probably need to do that” this was the day “everyday astronaut” changed space technology for the better 😃
Everyday Rocket Scientist
Yes, since Ship is using cold gas thrusters right?
Time stamp? I’d like to watch that part again but can’t remember where it was
@@andthen0170 45:00
For Elon to take on board a suggestion from a random guy and to say he's going to implement it WOW what an honour 😉👍
Tim having this level of knowledge to engage Elon in such a detailed conversation is just astonishing. Fact that he is so open about his failures and overcoming them is so inspiring. Great job y'all ❤️
how much of this is scripted and produced, do you suppose?
@@absolutely1337 Maybe some of his questions were pre-determined, but none of this is scripted..
@@FinDubGames was just curious. your take on the matter seems plausible.
Bravo 🙌
I'd say the honest interview by Elon; the inspiring stories and willingness to pull the curtain back on all the processes, failures and efforts to achieve it all is what's inspiring
Congratulations, Tm. You just helped engineer the Starship! 47:50 "We're going to fix that."
You're that meme guy where they try to make it look like Elon Musk had no time for you. It's clear as day he's excited to tell you about what they have going on at SpaceX. Good for you. Thanks for the video, man.
The engineering process from Musk's experience:
1 - make requirements less dumb
2 - try very hard to delete steps of the process
3 - simplify / optimize
4 - accelerate cycle time
5 - automate
Great summary, thanks!
This process came out of billions $ try-n-fail experiences and he gave to use for free...The man is legend
An important sub point is every requirement needs a persons name attached to it not a department name
What does he mean by “make requirements less dumb ”
Can someone rephrase that for me, English is not my first language.
Sorry
@@irvine175 Making requirements less dumb means several things, but essentially language and our use of it is not good at resolving implicit information and vagueness.
For example, if you were tasked with making a coffee cup, and there's a requirement like "the handle should fit a finger." Well, there are a number of problems here: who's finger should it fit, since people have different sized fingers. Which finger are we talking about? What if there is another requirement that says "This cup should have no handles"
Essentially, we want to have requirements that are precise and target a specific concern. Perhaps a better requirement here is "the cup should provide means for the user to hold it comfortably without burning their fingers."
"We should not optimize the things that should not exist" - this is memorable !
Meat "production" comes to mind.
@@lecisko but if meat doen't exist we will be dead
Like mRNA vax. Luckily Elon said he won't be taking the vax.
Also "If you're digging your grave, don't dig it faster, stop digging your grave".
I have already used this quote 3 times this morning with my engineers.
I love seeing Elon get asked a "simple" question, start to explain it, realize there's a caveat, split off into another tangent, then there's full tree of conversation path, then it ends with "So. . . yeah"
There is so much going on in his head at the same time, it's impossible to say it in simple terms, or the right order. It's hilarious.
@@Mp57navy it also sucks.
@@Mp57navy sucks was unnecessarily strong word, inconvenient is more appropriate.
45:07 Seeing Elon consider the addition of thrusters to starship was a testament to his earlier statements about everyone being chief engineer; ideas come from everywhere!
Watch the new one he actually did it ...like nothing about this guy is fake but everything he does is so insane how can it be real but it is what a god
Elon is so HAPPY when he gets to talk about Space X and the engineering about it.
9 minutes in before I noticed his shirt is the Cybertruck broken glass. What a Savage.
Nice catch!
wow he took that mistake very personally.
Its starlink right?
@@henkdeklapsteen6787 no, its the failure of teslas cybertruck glass when it cracked in the live demonstration
Art of momentum
good job tim on just letting elon talk. even when hes taking a break thinking, most interviewers interupt with new thoughts and questions, you let him talk. thats where the good stuff lies is in that deep thinking hes doing.
Absolutely. And talk about engineering.
Elon’s candor is a most welcome breath of fresh air in comparison to the folks I have worked with, and for, over my last four decades.
Look, after reading his biography, and podcasts, I realized that he is not normal. But it amazes me that basically the richest man in the world, knows the nuts and bolts of his own machines. It is simply remarkable how well he understands his work. And and then he is very nice about telling us all about it.
Exactly! Most people are like "he's not an engineer, he didn't build it", I'm like go away, he knows exactly and everything about whatever he's doing.
I look when I read his biography
He also very considerate to his employees, its an honor to work for Elon
I think people of the world would rather see Elon and how unique he is, rather than Bill Gates(don't get me wrong, I appreciate him and respect his work!) where he just gives you the quiet nerdy kid vibes lol.
And notice how nobody even looks at him when he's touring the factory. Because he literally lives there. The richest man in the world.
You can see the gears turning in Elon's head when he takes time to answer Tims questions. A sign of great wisdom
I felt like neurons firing at crazy speed
As an engineer, I feel like the 5 step process Elon is describing will be used as best practices for centuries to come in optimizing designs. There is some serious historical value here.
I mean nothing he said was over the top or novel, it's more the will to execute and the drive to see it done. Not many billionaires will sit on the assembly line to try to fix the process, or even understand how their process works enough to be able to contribute. Knowing the owner knows more than you is probably terrifying and awesome at the same time.
Non-engineers as well. I think he just codified what discipline is.
Refactoring, simplify , and remove
Its not some magic visionary idea, per se. Its just the sort of process that would get you written up and spoken to by management if you dared to talk that way in a traditional organization. Its the sort of thinking that really pisses off people who like protecting their established positions and feelings of clout.
The step about attaching " ideas " or " requirements " to a named person and never a group or department was outstanding... and like he said... learned of experience.. the hard way. The actual antipathy of large companies and Government contractors/Government programs. The quip about Dilbert and the battery blanket was great too..
elon is eager to share knowledge, but he needs a good interviewer to ask the right questions. kudos to tim!
We were waiting for this so long, great to see it finally happen! Let me watch that video now…
Sakamoto stans SpaceX
Nice profile pic you got there ;)
I'ma watch the sh*t out of this!
Musk's engineering process:
1 Make requirements less dumb
2 Delete part/process
3 Simplify/optimize (don't optimize something that shouldn't exist)
4 Accelerate cycle time
5 Automate
6. Profit
i was searching this comment...thanks mate
plays far too much factorio
13:15 :)
Thanks for summing it up in a nice shareable manner! ❤️
OK, I've changed my mind about Elon after watching this. The guy is absolutely, insanely brilliant. I work in the aerospace industry and he has Dilbert-like insights into what my company is doing wrong.
He is great - he gets so much bad press.
Couldn’t agree more.. I’ve been giving my buddy s*** for along time about being on this guys nuts. He’s analyzing everything he can think of.
You don't want him to be part of your life, but be damned glad he's part of our world!
Yes just like anyone Elon also have great, Good,Bad,sh*** ness in him so don't only focus on bad or good remember humans are both
@Patrick Whelpley Tim did many interview with Elon in past also
Its incredible that he has all of this information ready at the front of his head
I'm impressed. Elon gets it. Design isn't everything. My Dad was a machinist for 27 years. Those guys have to take the perfect-but-impossible designs from the engineers and then alter them enough so that machinery can actually turn them into reality.
"turn them into reality", I see what you did there.
I was thinking the same thing when Elon was talking about the challenge and skill being in the manufacturing not the design, as that's what I've heard from AvE - another great RUclips channel I'd recommend if you're interested in such things! (and aren't already familiar)!
I wonder how much 3D printing / additive manufacturing has helped with all those hard designs…
@@SamuelPSmith Hasn't helped much with the manufacturing, yet. It will in the future.
"All designs are wrong, its just a matter of how wrong" - Elon.
It works well with his "question everything" mentality
@@keeli5575 most people laugh at Elon, but then he'll prove the entire industry wrong when he lands a booster, makes a mass manufacturerable electric car, and eventually will land on Mars. Elon's greatest strength as a leader is that everyone underestimates him.
some designs are looks-like-a-dick wrong...
@@djei5105 *Jeff Bezos left the chat.*
People say that elon can't get starship orbital by the end of august, but I think they can if they push for the next few weeks. The only thing they cannot control is the FAA
At this point, Elon just feels like a celebrity friend that frequently comes on the show.
Right?!
Same goes to Rocket Lab's CEO
@@HeidenLam Yes. Peter Beck must have been cast from the same mold. Should have given him the billions instead of Boing and Bezos.
Fantastic Vid Ty.