[2022] Elon Musk Explains Updates To Starship And Starbase!
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- Опубликовано: 4 июн 2024
- Today we’re going inside Starbase with the ultimate tour guide, Elon Musk. He’s going to take us through the High Bay to see where Starships are assembled, we’ll also see the new MegaBay under construction and talk about SpaceX’s plans to get this rocket flying.
Recommended videos to help with some context [Playlist] - • Playlist
Huge thanks to Ryan Chylinksi from Cosmic Perspective for helping shoot this video! - / cosmicperspective & / cosmicperspective
00:00 - Intro
00:45 - Tour Begins
03:00 - Starship Thrusters
09:30 - SuperHeavy Booster talk
13:20 - Grid Fin Updates
18:55 - Inside High Bay and Starship Door
24:00 - Starship Heat Shield Tiles
28:00 - Starship Thrust To Weight
30:30 - Cost of Going to Mars
33:00 - Heat Shield and Flaps
37:20 - Flap Discussion
41:45 - Mega Bay
43:45 - Outro
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IMO, one of the big reasons Elon Musk likes being interviewed by Tim Dodd and gives him these special tours, is that Tim notices when he should be quiet to allow Elon time to think. Tim does this very well, both while waiting for answers to questions, and when he simply notices Elon has "gone off" somewhere in his head to think.
I noticed that too, that's awesome, isn't it....
yup agree totally some genius have that kind of thinking and need time to organize there thoughts
So true. It looked like Elon was thinking about flaps being utilized in another way, after Tim 'bounced' some of his thoughts out loud. Last time Tim inspired Elon to abandon the thrusters: what might this conversation lead to?
Great to see the first part of this meeting go so well, without a lot of noise and Elon does not have bad back pain this time around.
Elon seems to also think interacting with Tim (as an outsider) on the spot makes his brain find new avenues of thinking that can be quite useful
That "gone off in his head" is what my daughter calls "Buffering".
My wife hates it. My daughter gets more out of me.
For an engineer like me, it's always great to hear Elon say "we might be wrong" or, "we don't always get it right" since it shows how important the engineering/scientific process is for endeavors like this (or really any project.)
Don’t tell the haters. If he throws out a guess or a proposed idea they take it as a binding legal contract.
So, as an engineer, what do you think Elon actually said in this video beside "eh", and "we use gas", "we have more than enough pressure", "we'll vent it anyway". And tell me, how is that new as apposed to when the first "star" ship went into space, and gas pressure was used to move around?
Also, what would you consider a star ship? Any ship that exits Earth's atmosphere and from which at some point in time you'd be able to see a star?
What field of engineering are you in?
@@stylis666 Ship is the vehicle Starship is/was the system.
I'm a mechanical engineer.
The RCS using gas isn't new. However the idea to use ullage gas (left over gas not needed for propellant) is a newer idea since all current space vehicles are not a giant tank like Ship.Ship's.
Basically the idea is to vent it when it can do useful work vs venting it before landing (want the least amount of fuel possible in tanks to reduce risk of explosion during landing.)
for me an engineering student/part time technical drawer. Hitting an actual industrial job was such an eye opener. Like other CEOs and people giving expert lectures always seem to be so incredibly far off and out of reach while just filled to the brink with confidence. And then you work in those firms and notice everybody is just cooking with water. So "we might be wrong" for me is just honesty. Because that's the thing all of those other f'****** also "might be wrong" they just don't say it.
@@MrTree421 it's definitely a result of Elon being involved with integration hell and assembly processes. There are usually a bunch of ways to get something accomplished, the goal is always to find one that works and then iterate to the one that's the most efficient.
I did like his thought that a solution may not have to be the best, it just has to be the best at reducing cost per ton compared to another idea.
The moments I like the most are when you make a suggestion about something or ask about other possibilities and Elon actually takes a moment to think about it as if you were actually one of his employees or a consultant of sorts. Especially with him saying they actually changed something in the design based off a conversation you two previously had. Says a lot about who Elon is as a person. Thank you for these videos!
Elon is a down to earth Genius and what’s great about him is he doesn’t attempt to make you feel little when he talks to you. You would never see Bill Gates chilling like this.
Still didn’t get enough credit, it is what it is
@@foobarmaximus3506 Weird flex but ok
@@samsteen2115 how is he a genius? :D explain please
That's actually a business serious thing, is called Open Innovation and sometimes is good for companies to gather for external ideas, because they know they tend to get biased as they get used with theyr own work and methodology, so getting ideas from external sources helps them improve in products and concepts.
Astonishing transparency on undergoing developments ! Never would old NASA have been so open to discussions about ship design & optimisations. Great video !
Even current NASA are wimps about getting something wrong in public
I can’t get over how cool it is that Tim’s simple question of “But this is only for the booster, right”? Lead to a major design change and optimization for the ship.
That was incredible to think that Elon was making design changes in real time like that. Rlly cool to know
Ain't no time like real time, baby!
He forgot that I think
If you listen closely to that moment you can hear Elon stop himself from thanking Tim for the design idea. I have witnessed patents born from simple 8 or 9 word questions i.e. "What if we - - - - - - -"
@@cwcordes Exactly! I was thinking it was actually Tim's idea.
We are incredibly fortunate that Elon has developed the level of trust in you that he obviously has. I think it’s hard to overstate how fortunate we are to have this level of visibility into what SpaceX is doing and into Elon himself.
Not going to ever get such open access to Blue Origin, mind you perhaps they still need get a working prototype first.
Elon does not represent Tesla the man, he gave fire to humanity at no greedy intention compared to Elon, what a shame to use the name of Tesla as if he even compared.
True.......100%
Well said Andy.
Absolutely, thank you Tim - it's because of your genuine fascination that we're privy to all this detail, most journalists don't care and I'm pretty sure Elon - a guy that seems to like the details - wouldn't devote this much time with many other people.
Notice how Elon talks..he let the other person finish and then he talks. He never interrupts anyone speech. Incredible
very impressed that Elon not only gives you unprecedented access to the Starbase but he considers you a friend too. Thats a friend for life!
He's also been a legit fan of Tim's for a while, hell it almost seems like the majority of his casual wardrobe is everyday astronaut merch, he has been wearing it constantly for years.
I’m shocked Elon hasn’t hired Tim. I would also not be surprised if that conversation may have been had already between them.
I'm sure it helps that Tim always stays 100% on the rocketry and space stuff, and never tries to corner him on political/social stuff. Which, to be fair, he does need confronted on fairly regularly, but not from Tim. That's not what any of us are on this channel for
@@treschlet no he dosent. Only cancer twitter has to bring politics up all the time. People are allowed to have opinions without people always having to comment about them
@@filip9564 I assure you it's not just Twitter that brings up cancerous politics. It's every platform.
We never had anything like this back in the sixties. All we saw was the rocket on the pad and then launch day. Only on the 6 PM news. This stuff is great! Keep up the great work, Tim.
10-20 years after the launch someone would make a documentary......regaling us with obsolete technology 🙂
Ha. I followed those insane Apollo days too, and Gemini -- so that dates me. Without Musk I would never see a manned Mars landing.
yeah special news broadcast NASA Apollo11 launch to the moon grade 2 school b/w tv ( NASA the best of the best ) is a good video)
30 years L8tr the conspiracy files xd Au - honeysuckle creek space station
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@@reclusiarchgrimaldus1269 Thought I had the wrong thread reading this.
Still hella impressed with how down to earth Elon is.. Walking you around and taking actual interest in your existence.. How he is so hands on with his work force and not shy to walk about and say hello to everyone.. Great stuff
What does "hella" mean? I tried to look it up, but I can't find it in any dictionary.
@@foobarmaximus3506 slang synonym to very or really
@@foobarmaximus3506 Were you born yesterday
Well this aged like milk
@@philthycoder it aged like milk for a vocal minority of people. the majority of people on this planet are indifferent to elon
You can tell he has 20x more important things on his mind & is trying his best to answer this guy’s questions as accurate as possible when him & his team are still in the learning process with everything at the moment
I think it helps that Tim is asking the "right" questions.
Questions that while he's got a k things going in his mind, makes him look at something they've been mulling over and go wait, we can do it this way. Helps to see another perspective.
I don't think anyone will ask better questions to Elon than Tim...keep bringing space down to earth for everyday people like us
Agreed. Tim is the TRUE Everyday Astronaut.
Most people would ask Elon "Can I have a billion dollars?"
I can't imagine any MSM reporter conducting a Starbase walkaround interview with Elon that would beat this.
He makes awkward questions sometimes lol
@@DriverHenryWho3245 what?
These are the best SpaceX interviews. I think this is to Tim's credit that he is genuinely engaged in the subject and doesn't bring any bullshit agendas to Mr. Musk. It's obvious Elon is intensely involved in these projects and appreciates the interest being returned. No one else gets this kind for response from Elon. Good Job Tim!! And THANK YOU to Tim and Elon.
Because Tim asks intelligent questions instead of "what do you think of hydrogen as a fuel?"
And no stupid political agenda points.
@@ken-mb5cp I meant to say that as well but got sidetracked by someone leaving the house. Thanks for bringing that up. In these conversations it's nice to have no political crap or wokeness about what is wrong with SpaceX.
And because Tim is such a Space nerd, Elon enjoys talking to him too.
Feels less like an interview and more like two rocketeers nerding around at Starbase.
I suspect Elon is like this mostly around his trusted people and employee's. But agree, Tim is excellent and many thanks for letting people get a real look at Elon. Personally, I enjoy Elon just being "straight-up".
Thanks Indeed!
“Girth is more important than length”
-Elon Musk
Facts
What I love about this conversation, is it's a real conversation with everyone knowledgeable and passionate on the topic. Rather than some generic interview and official PR output.
and i must add you are just hitting them out of the ballpark. All questions you ask, they've discussed (frequently) and the explanations are coming at a level we amateurs can understand, Thanks Tim for being a well-prepped interviewer!
You can clearly tell that Elon enjoys and appreciates Tim's interviews. He's in a completely different mode here than ANY other interviews you see 👍
I think he also appreciates the fact that this guy has put so much work in to understand and learn so much thats relevant to Elon. ie when elon has to do interviews with some blonde reporter whos dumb as dogshit, it must be so irratating.
Hes talking to another expert in the field.
Tim isn't going to try to get Elon to say something that makes a headline. Tim isn't going to ask about Twitter or Grimes. Elon can just talk rockets with someone who likes rockets.
Showing my ignorance, but who is Grimes?
@@sonnyburnett8725 his "Ex?" wife, i think?
Tim, Elon had an epiphany while talking to you about the functions of a specific part. I think you have officially impacted the design of the Starship! Congratz!
I noticed that! Amazing.
Time stamp?
@@greghallett4410 8:51
He did that in the last interview too!
Edit: misinterpreted the comment, never mind.
@@TroySpace I believe that is what they are discussing. Not a new one.
Tim, your interviews are fantastic. There's so much garbage on everyday news about Elon, and I feel like people in this country are missing one of the greatest scientific and industrial minds ever to exist. Getting access to see how he thinks, how he handles challenges, and how his team works around him is priceless.
This was awesome. Great to see Elon and his chief engineer talk about the systems they are working through. Great video!
when Elon Musk called a previous idea of himself dumb, I was suprised that he'd ever had a shred of introspection enough to realize this. Did he have help?
Man, conversations like these make me appreciate the internet. This is probably the first time in history that everyday people like us have been able to hear the thoughts of the CEO and chief engineer of a rocket company at this level. And it's really only this channel doing stuff like this.
I agree HJPEV but, where you wrote 'normal people', you should have written 'everyday people' :)
@@lotsofangryrobots3553 or maybe ;everyday astronautical people' 😁
He has done another interview with Elon on this channel. Have a look at that s well, he shows what’s going on inside the tents.
not to mention the richest man on earth.
Harry james potter evan verres, I’m glad you’re still connected with the muggle world to this day :p
This was pretty dense technically and that's what we expected. You go right at business without any BS, you let Elon ponder, consider and wait for his answers in full. I guess you two have become great buddies by now and that looks great for everybody on your channel. Thanks for this, and waiting for part two.
Dense lol absolutely. Please Musk, promise more so we can continue to overinflate Tesla stocks and you can promisee not to sell then sell them and leverage against them at every opportunity to make money from these poor saps. ha
@@GahMehGrrrr weird that you would watch a 40 minute elon musk video about rocket science when you clearly dont like elon musk
@@GahMehGrrrr
Duddette, rockets are sorta pointy on one end and hot gases come out of the other end. Ask you mother! Car don’t fly and have wheel with inflated rubber that roll on the surface of earth. Also you can buy Tesla stock as it is publicly traded. Little captain cannot buy SpaceX stock as it is not publicly traded. Again, ask you mom for the difference.
This interview was about SpaceX not Tesla. Like shapes and colors little one, they are all different.
@@lenny8511 you can respect Elons businesses and his engineering prowess whilst still thinking he is turning into a billionaire megalomaniac supervillian from a comic book.
Absolutely. Honestly the more of these interviews i watch, the more in awe I am at his technical knowledge and understanding. Realist and willing to embrace failure, take the step and improve on it is also to be honest badass.
I love seeing Elon trying to problem solve while doing an interview. One feeds the other and then back again. The sheer number of problems to solve is staggering but doable when tackled one at a time. Keep moving forward!
Thank you Mr Musk for sending up this rocket on my Birthday. I am so excited. I am not a young person anymore . So Thank you again.
I think Tim does an EXCELLENT job at interviewing Elon mostly because he know what he is talking about and displays industry expertise within his subject topic, which objectively helps the public to learn and appreciate rocketry and the complicated science behind the craft. Good show man!
elon likes tim cause he never interups like others. and askes senseble questions.
The EA questions are so good that they're stimulating improvements. That "oh, I actually thought of that while talking to you". It shows just how good these interviews are.
Gotta get those member supper Danks patrone koins somehow.
It's another creepy one-sided Man-Love episode by Timmeh. {0.o}
Like he has to do every few days, Elon quickly changed his phone number after this. 🤣💀
Having you pause and do a deep dive on some of these topics would be greatly appreciated in the future. Thank you for your hard work.
I am not even that interested in rockets alone (am in SpaceX), but this interview/tour is amazing to watch and listen. Even if you've got just a good grasp of elementary physics this is better than going to the cinema!
This was excellent.
This sort of content is something that couldn't exist until recently. It would have been too niche for TV. Cheers to Tim for educating us all and expanding this niche in the process. True to the mission of the channel. Thanks to Elon for the access and conversation I can't imagine existing without him.
RUclips has changed the game completely! It’s why Tim’s incentives are aligned with ours versus big media.
Hey Everyday...!!! That was awesome!!! Thanx❤️
I like how you say recently. I think to younger people like me it feels like this is just the way things have always been since we've grown up during the change. Im just old enough to remember life before the true widespread penetration of the internet in all aspects of life. It's tough to really see how meteoric the paradigm change really is when you live inside the change.
Yes and no. In the early days of spaceflight, a program like that could have been aired on broadcast TV. That was before television programming was aimed at the lowest common denominator. People 60 years were much more knowledgeable about science in general and about aeronautics, in part because it was still new. For the average person, traveling by airplane was a rarity and most had never been off the ground.
@@billmoran3812 The target TV audience has never been other than the lowest common denominator (lcd) where ratings is king. My grandparents, who were in their early 50s before Allan Shepard's flight, were, like many Americans, not very educated (3rd grade for my grandfathers). They weren't really into frills like the space program, having been through two WWs, the Great Depression and lower class poverty. Religion, fueled by low education and suspicion, was a huge factor, too, as many thought tech was the harbinger of the apocalypse (my grandfather thought this until he passed in the 80s, during the Shuttle's heyday). Nuclear weapons, you know, so you can hardly blame them! It was my much better educated 30-something parents (engr and dr) who were ignited by science, as were many of us kids (but not all).
Yes, programs like this, although often more formally thought out and efficient, and much less technical (it was a broader audience), complete with models and animation, were aired throughout the many hours of launch to splashdown broadcasts. They had to fill all the hurry up and wait with something! Plus, we were hostage, as mission coverage was shown on all 3 networks. Various astronauts, von Braun, and Chris Kraft were very frequent guests (and great communicators, esp Kraft). But without these factors, this much science wouldn't have seen the light of day, and not due to anything but ratings and lcd. Documentaries were rare and the domain of young public television, which didn't have much of an audience, not being lcd.
But, as space missions became more routine, and longer, TV had to reduce its coverage. Ratings were terrible, networks were losing money (harder to justify a days long mission compared to the hours long Mercury missions, although they eventually added commercials), and people were mad about their lcd shows getting cancelled. You can't really compare this audience to a nationwide TV audience then, esp only spread among 3 channels, not thousands of YT channels. My parents would have watched some of this content, but most wouldn't, so back to demand, which has never been high. Trust me, in the 50s, like today, science-themed channels could not have competed well with sports, gossip, beauty, and lcd Kardashian channels.
Tim, I’ve watched you from the beginning. You’ve become an essential part of the Elon story and the #1 guy to us earthlings for bringing the journey to our living rooms. Amazing and relentless work. Thank you.
Couldn't agree more!
Tim, Just a fan's appreciation for you and your teams' work! I was just watching Scientia Plus 5/22/22 post. They referenced and linked this post with Elon answering your question if the booster gas vents change would be applied to Starship? He said yes, makes sense. MIND BLOWN!!! Dude - you've just helped Elon redesign Starship in real time!!! Nicely Done!
Your Elon Musk interviews are absolutely fantastic. Best interviews I’ve ever seen him in, and I truly think these will be catalogued for future reference. Imagine if we had content like this from Tesla himself!
I liked the way Elon and Joe (director, Starship engineering ) interact.
They both seem comfortable with how dynamic the SpaceX design process is. No egos, no superiority, just a nerdy love of making it better to timely priorities.
Joe has no reaction to Elon throwing ideas around, like shifting upper flap mount positions, grid fin numbers, potential COPV removal, he takes it all in his stride,
It's just something that may or may not happen several iterations down the track, or already design work in progress.
I could see a journeyman NASA engineer having trouble adapting to this sort of culture and having trouble not being precious about ideas and being frustrated with the constant buoyant design priorities.
That's what most impressed me in the take away from this video.
This guy gets it 👏
agreed. Have to be honest though, im 11 minutes in and please for the love of g tim please stop interrupting the elon f musk and the starship engineer..are you kidding me.
that being said, tim you absolute legend for getting us these inside shots..just bossing the spacex youtube scene. you seriously rock man
Not trying to nitpick, but is journeymen actually used at the nasa level, I've seen it in general plumbing or electricity but never with engineers
Agree with this pov 👍👍
I love how it just starts with him whistling as if he's in vacation, while in reality he's probably one of the most stressed businessmen/engineers on the planet. I can't imagine what he deals with on a daily basis. Straight boss.
...literally!
After decades he probably doesn't feel stress anymore haha, he would be dead otherwise, imagine being the head of 2 huge companies
He lives in the 4th dimension.
@The Catto of Dankness of course he delegates, nobody can make it so far without delegating
He is the best man for the job may God keep blessing him
Wow what an interview with Elon! This needs to be preserved so 100,200 years from people can see this.
Amazing ground level access. Thanks for bringing us along.
“In this case, girth is…” as soon as Elon grinned I knew what he was going to say 😄
Learned that lesson with the falcon 9, that thing was almost too long and skinny
@SpaceX-Space Flight Simulator I know, but it also applies to rocket aspect ratio
Same, we know him too well lol
Time stamp??
@@RaiderJosh 1:18
Not only is Elon welcoming, his demeanour is markedly different, for the better, from that displayed elsewhere.
Great to see that the belief in the mission remains absolutely relentless - this is truly MISSION TO MARS. Starbase clearly is one the most important places on Earth right now.
I always wonder just what Elon is feeling as he walks through the grounds of SpaceX. I now that he is proud and excited to see things progress. But I also know he's much more focused on what is left to do and the little time he has to work with. Thanks for your insightful coverage of Elon and SpaceX.
He regrets simping on Amber Heard..
I loved watching the early starship flights. I can't WAIT for more.
"Video is going to be pretty technical" - Tim
"New Mega Bay is Girthy!" -Elon
It's not rocket science... Oh, wait!
I loved "wings or wingy things" instead of grid fins.
Pez dispensor door lol
Tim should asked Elon, if Starship will require structural reinforcements to be able to operate the cargo hatch, and launch with the cargo hull unpressurized, using a vent valve.
"Girthy, wingy things", now thats what I call down to Earth tech speak.
Tim, can you please give Elon an Everyday Astronaut cap for his windy interviews? Sincerely, humanity.
yes!
100%
hehihi
Nah - hair fluffing in the wind adds visual interest !!
Welcome to Vandenberg, I worked there for 19 years, not a single day without skin cracking winds.
It’s so nice to be able to watch Elon talk to a friend than say a reporter, he always takes time to explain, without giving much away, but a bit more than he wants. Give him chalk and a blackboard and he will while away the hours in diagrammed galore…nice one Tim 👍🏼
It always amazes me that if you look at a construction site you usually see almost nobody doing anything. But still if you look a little bit later, boom, whole building, rockets,.... crazy!
So impressive hearing how much Elon is ACTUALY involved in designing these rockets. He had his expert there the entire time and never had to look to him once to confirm technical information.
Regardless of the success or failure, I am so excited to see this attempt. But, lets hope all goes as planned!👍😁
Well, HE IS the Head Engineer at SpaceX. That is his job title, along with CEO of the Company.
He invested billion in this and he is the only want to go to Mars yesterday...
If anything he cut in to try and give a better explanation than the engineer. But mostly because I think he noticed that the engineer was trying to dumb things down for the interview too much, and Elon knows that Tim and his audience can handle the nitty gritty tech talk so he just starts going into the physics
I suppose also as the CEO and owner, his job is to make decisions, and to make good decisions he has to know his stuff.
@@1flash3571 Well, that explains why Space X is failing so hard. Lol. But real engineers always have a good laugh at Musk and his braindead fans.
I love the fact Elon is so willing to allow so much of the trial error process for prototyping to be on such public display! We never see anything like this from NASA, Blue Origin or one of the many other rocket companies out there.
This would be because NASA did not do test trials. They played it safe on every aspect. All testing was done by the contractors of the individual parts. NASA does not innovate, they bring parts together and contract out design.
I just loved the human factor of Elon musk in his passion to try to explain his vision this man is beyond awesome he is truly an inspiration to all mankind thank you Elon for all you do for our world and the worlds to come
His other passion is showing his knob to flight attendants!
What do you really know of Elon Musk? You should take a hard look.
@@MardukTheSunGodInsideMe then tell us what you see as important..
The non-stop flow of lies. The repainting of every aspect of his history. The credit he's taken from others. He's the world's most successful con man.
Great job, Tim! “We should do that on the booster too. I just thought about that (while answering your question).” That was an awesome moment in real time. It’s hard not to see contrast between Elon and Jeff regarding who they choose to do interviews with and the manner they conduct themselves.
What sets Tim Dodd apart from typical journalists is that he's not trying to create controversy, create a "gotcha" moment, or even promote himself through hogging screen time and dialogue. He's genuinely passionate about the mission of bringing rocket science down to everyday people and it shows in his consistency towards that mission in every video. I love that he comes prepared to talk about the topic and doesn't demean his audience or interviewees with nonsense questions.
He has a very small channel. If Elon is giving him his very valuable time, it is because he is passionate and informed about the science and promoting the rockets.
Yes... Tim is a amazing person...i sense it..
I think it also makes him vulnerable to overlooking the abuses of power that have been increasingly prevalent in Muskworld because hey! Cool rockets and stuff!
@@pnwmeditations What abuses of power?
@@rickjason215 he doesn’t know. They never do.
This reminds me of elon saying “All designs are wrong, just the matter of how wrong” great interview again Tim.
The original to this is pre-Elon. “All models are wrong, but some models are useful.”
Today I fixed my rake with epoxy, a bolt and plumbers tape. Then I watched this discussion on rocket design iterations and realized I'm just past being a cave man. Thanks for the interview, it was awesome!
Absolutely awesome video love the Simplicity of how you handle yourself in situations with Elon and just let him talk without interrupting you have wonderful interviewing skills
The fact that Tim has had multiple in depth interviews and tours with the richest person on earth really says something about the quality of this channel and what Tim and his team are doing.
Why does smegma smell like fish and not cheese?
it's still ridiculous to me that a CEO can give you a tour of a highly technical production facility and wax lyrical on any question you ask him about what is going on here. crazy.
I think the mutual benefit is massive, Elon gets great promotion through Tim’s Audience and Tim gets a Really in depth interview that boosts his blog site … also Elon can relax , he loves all this stuff and talking about it has its rewards . If only the others would be this open, it’s not Weapons so it’s good to learn about …
I can't wipe the grin off my face at the thought of a 10,000x improvement on the state of the art. Elon's ambitions know no bounds.
…without breaking physics!
It's not as hard as it sounds. With orbital refueling, you get about 100x the payload to Mars, and with rapid reuse of both stages you get about 100x cheaper launch. Even if each launch needs like 5 refuelings, that's still 100x100/5 = 2000x improvement. In other words, Elon has identified 2 ginormous low hanging fruits that Old Space just wasn't motivated enough to exploit.
I don't know how I found this, but I'm so glad I did. I feel a little taste of the pride that Americans must have felt in the 60s. The casual nature of this conversation makes me feel like these are truly my people, and it makes me feel proud that despite all the negativity in the world today, we are in fact capable of great things. Truly inspiring.
I didn't understand much of what you guys talked about but I loved the tour of the facility! Great video!
I’m seriously impressed by how many times Elon acknowledges that you’ve just asked a very good question. Well done
Elon does not hand out compliments either. Tim did a great job!
its almost like Elon is well practised at getting the best out of people! plus you're right Tim does ask a lot of questions and you can tell there's quite a good relationship between them.
The Elon simplevels are high here
Tim and Elon, just know there stuff, and Elon clearly likes Tim and what he knows.
@@Engineer9736
Stating facts ain't simping.
In regards rocketry I don't know that Musk would acknowledge anything I'd ask him as a good question.
Nor you.
Takes balls to rock up to Starbase Texas and do not just an interview but also a Starship progress analysis with the SpaceX billionaire. That Tim can hold his own on a technical level and on a personal level is the antithesis of 'simping'.
Credit where credit is due.
Irrational Musk haters embarassing themselves are out in force again.
When Elon is talking about Space and SpaceX and you hear the passion in his voice, that's the Elon I absolutely love. I forget all the Twitter and dumb stuff and focus on my one true love, space exploration and colonization. He is changing the world right in front of our eyes, I'm seeing a SpaceX launch almost every week from my house now.
How cool that, able to watch launches from your house, fantastic!
Been watching launches on TV since Gemini and hope to catch one live soon. Have been to KSC and toured the area but Spacex was just getting their feet wet at that time. Meanwhile, watching from afar.
A fight to preserve freedom of speech is not just "dumb stuff".
Can I come and stay at your house? Just joking as I live in the UK and so will have to settle for Spacex presentations, which I have to say, are exceptional.
@@farmerpete6274 We really need a UK SpaceX nerds get together :)
Thanks Tim. I can't believe this much amount of knowledge is free and for everyone.
I love it to see him thinking. Thanks to both of you to let us see a bit more from Starbase. Greetings from Germany.
Too see a man's gears start wirring is great.
For some, peopl it's hilarious for me to see the smoke come tumbling out of the ears (metaphorically lol
Watching these three guys talk about their rockets is great. They’re like kids in a candy store, literally giddy with the sheer magnitude of what they’re doing. It’s amazing to watch. It’s also amazing that they aren’t three old guys who’ve run spreadsheet’s for the last 4 decades. These guys are young and incredibly talented. It’s like they aren’t even aware of how impossible of a task they are doing. It’s mind boggling.
very impressed that Elon not only gives you unprecedented access to the Starbase but he considers you a friend too. Thats a friend for life!
I absolutely love hearing one of the most intelligent & interesting people in the world use technical terms like "wingy thing" and "it opens like a friggin pez dispenser" Elon is such a cool down to mars dude😉👍
Seeing elon trying to talk to people is always funny
I see what you did there)
I loved The Pez dispenser reference too; and into detail w/the simple explanation of the set-up! Got a good laugh out of that reference!
(In a nice way)👍
I'm amazed at your ability to get Elon thinking about ways of doing something differently when you ask questions and my ability to understand most of his answers.
This is so amazing, great interviewer, and Elon's depth of technical knowledge is insane
Tim has GOT to take full credit for that revelation about the thrusters that Elon had. That was awesome. "Ya, Elon stole that idea from me."--Tim Dodd 2022
probably all of it was scripted, Musk has no degrees to show for. He just steals the knowledge and wisdom from actual engineers to whom he never gives credit.
Gives me chills how much Elon is grounded with his team. The fact that even the base workers are content and chill in his presence really shows a world of a difference. As an engineer whose worked on high profile projects, I can personally tell you that the stress having a CEO around is extremely intimidating. You can really tell that he has positioned his power in a way that he is no better than even your average run of the mill assembly worker and his entire workforce feels so comfortable that they can focus on their mundane duties. Love and respect for Elon
Stop throating his knob, he isn't your friend, Musk is a neofascist
That’s a very good observation
so true, I noticed that too. How many supervisors have you had that show up and everybody gets nervous? they just walk around talking on phones and don't worry about it. Elon for president! He is the polar opposite of our current joke of a president. But, if he had to be president, because of politics he probably couldn't get much done, so better off he stays where he is
@@fredgarv79 Elon is a neofascist. We need to move further left not right
so chill they should have their union ;)
Nothing more satisfying than hearing a bunch of engineers talk about something they're passionate about. This gives me hope for humanity and the world. These are the people who should be in charge.
in charge of what?
Partially true, but engineers tend to struggle with solving human issues in the social sphere.
The only thing Tim can do better is not say ya so much.
@@-Nobody-1 You want them to do that as well? Er...ok.
@@southmage4350 Everything.
I invested in SpaceX quite early on when they were experimenting with the first dragon before it was crewed. bought a SpaceX polo shirt from the store. love this company! watching the achievements over the last ten years has been so cool.
thanks for your hard work Tim Dodd and thanks for giving us access to Elon Musk
I love the way you give him time to think, you are genuinely interested in the design decisions. Normal journalists would be trying to ask him tricky questions to trip him up, you just want to help us all understand. Keep being awesome.
You do not send an average journalist on a very specialized subject..it's like saying sending this guy to Ukraine to get a great explanation on the strategy and tactics of the Ukraine army.
@@joannewilson6577 I agree, but Tim's motivation has a very different energy to most media folk, who just want the most salacious sound bite. It leads to a better quality experience for other who just want to learn and get excited about progress
@@andrewgiles6192 Any expert who care about the subject and who has a passion for it will be the same....you cannot compare an generalist journalist to one who specializes in science like any major network use or should have.
That’s why he gets to come back. Going back to explaining your basic principles and the design trade off criteria always makes you rethink your solutions. Elon clearly puts value in that conversation as it helps him uncover underlying flawed assumptions that creep into designs.
@@tupublicoful It is like the duck in programming. Explaining your code to the duck make you see our own code in a new light and from there you get a better understanding of what you need to do.
The fact that Elon was able to improve the design of starship based on an interview by EA is a testament of his knowledge and skill as a journalist to ask the right question
Also, it has to do that when you teach, you actually get new insights and learn. Verbally describing what you are doing to someone else somehow triggers the brain to develop new thoughts.
@@davidkepke1435 It really helps you sort out your unchecked assumptions. Makes the implicit come explicit, and often there's bad implicit reasons for stuff you went ahead with and just haven't thought about for a while, if ever.
I don't know if anyone else mentioned it in the thousands of comments so far, but on Apollo, the S-IVB third stage used ullage gas propulsively, though not for full 3-axis control.
After its first burn to get into Earth orbit, the S-IVB's tanks were still mostly full of liquid oxygen and hydrogen intended for the TLI burn to send Apollo to the Moon. The liquid hydrogen continued to boil off and that gas was sent to propulsive vents at the rear of the vehicle. While in Earth orbit, the stack maintained a 'pointy-end-forward' attitude and the rearward-venting hydrogen served to keep the propellants settled to the bottom of their tanks and away from their vents.
@@foobarmaximus3506 I didn't work on the Apollo program. (Too young and Scottish. :-) )
Is there an error in my comment?
Hilarious when people call him a fraud.
He knows his stuff and is involved in all aspects in his company.
definitely
people are just envious
@@barnobarno5403 yeah most of them just blindly following some sort of "eat the rich" movement lol
He definitely has had some ideas that would be problematic when faced with the engineering challenges of reality (hyperloop, that weird underground transport system, etc), but pretty much everything involving space x is very real and in most cases pretty revolutionary when compared to the rest of the industry.
@@jackbutler183 the idea of reusable rockets that would be landed upright were the same way… it seems impossible until it happens
Elon's time in regards to cost per second has to make this in-person interview mind-blowing expensive. Thanks so much to both of you for your insight.
He mentioned in another interview that several circumstances one hour of his in person time has been worth over 120 million just by a single decision.
It's about recruiting talent, same as the AI day etc.
Plus a little lobbying and PR thrown in.
So I would say it's a very good investment of his time, reaching the best minds who might want to come work on this.
@@ke6gwf facts
@DeusVult1683 neither has any other great engineer or company founder. They hire people to do the actual work, while they design what is to be done.
The fact that talking over design decisions with Tim actually caused him to rethink and redesign Starship could support the case that these interviews might be financially and practically beneficially to SpaceX as well. I can somewhat relate when talking about design decisions, even with people that are not in engineering, like family and friends. You'll verbalize a problem and realize an answer just by telling someone about the problem you're trying to solve. Tim must feel very proud to know he has somewhat of a fingerprint on Starship.
Finally getting the time to watch all of the interviews! Thanks for your work Tim, and thanks for Elon to be so open despite he is a walking itterator
awesome conversation! Thank you Tim and Elon for all those insights. Soooo valuable!
It's going to be interesting in say 10 years or so how we see these amazing interactions with Elon and SpaceX. I have a feeling Tim that clips from these will be shown in all future documentaries on Starship.
Hair and all
Yeah, these are going to be important historical documents. And not the Galaxy Quest kind either.
Wow, really impressive, not just all the interesting topics Elon explains, but how well prepared you, the everyday Astronaut went there. You can clearly see that Elon like you a lot and that he is really relaxed and happy to talk to you. I think the interview is great and you both did an amazing job.
I think Tim goes into these interviews not just fully prepared, but (now he's made it his life's work!) fully appreciative of:
A. The cost of Elon's time and the value it provides
and:
B. The value he can add to Elon by testing and challenging him to explain his ideas.
Magic to watch!
Yes, you can really trust someone who when you're trying to have a serious conversation with them, they post poop emojis. That's the troll you want in charge of serious matters. SMH
You…and the team! 👍
@@Aladan57 I would say that the comment Elon was replying to was, as Elon pointed out with his emoji, BS.
Tim has one of my favorite channels.
Awesome, very interesting. Thank you Tim, Elon and everyone at SpaceX for these insights. Its really mind-blowing that SpaceX tries to get the current number of "cost per ton to mars" down 10.000-fold. Nobody on the planet besides Elon (and everyone that works with him) thinks that he is able to improve any KPI 10.000-fold, but I'm very glad he does!
For so many years I have injoyed this. It makes me feel like I am exploring outer space myself. Thank you. I am 77 years old and this is the most exciting thing of my life now . Keep up the great work.
I love how often Elon just stares at his rockets and appreciates them or just stands and thinks. Awesome stuff
That's not just appreciation, it's scrutiny!
No, he is looking into his toy box thinking all this is mine, and I love it!
Tbh Everday Astronaut seemed to know more about them than Musk
Tim, I love how you can see Elon thinking and you have the presence of mind to just let there be silence and let him think. You did the same thing a year ago and he came up with a new idea while you were interviewing him. Great job we can't wait to see the next part of this tour.
Ha!
Oh brother.....
I feel like we're watching different videos.
Elon Madoff: Chief Engineer....
LoL....
@@JonDotExe yeah, Tim constantly interrupts him.
“If the ground is the surface of the earth” at 25:30
8:28 cool update, ha! To see that got implemented since that other interview is awesome!
Love when you let Elon stand and think Tim without interrupting. You could tell he was in deep thought about a problem. Can't wait for episode two.
"We don't need lifting points where the heat shield tiles are. We need to move the lifting points to where the heat shield tiles are not." Well said, Elon
Two great people passionate about a subject who trust each other having a conversation. Not the sensationalist, or the agenda driven media. Glad that we have a medium like RUclips to make this possible.
I have zero engineering competence, but I watch all of these videos with my jaw on the floor, because I know how special what these people are doing is. They’re a driving force behind humanity’s greatest mission and I feel blessed to be able to watch it all.
How impressive that Starbase is rapidly evolving since the last interview. Please keep updating the interview with Elon at least every year!
This gonna help much more understanding of rockets, engineering, and physics.
This kind of knowledge and aspiration is a huge asset for the entire humanity forward!
8:45 may be the most exciting part for me when we see Elon's discussion with Everyday Astronaut (Tim Dodd) from the previous Starbase tour lead directly to what Elon calls "one of the biggest improvements that we've made" in Starship. I've been waiting for this!
I submit that they should hereby be named "Dodd Thrusters".
@@stevejaworski2954 I concur!
I don't think he fully gave Tim credit for it...
Seemed to say he thought of it while he was talking to Tim
@@marko7969 I'd need to revisit the video.
@@stevejaworski2954
Don’t think that was a youtubers idea. Anything or anyone else might have triggered this idea from musk or his team.
so comforting..and educational
What a remarkable job your are doing wihith your channel!! Definetly one of the bests on You Tube, period. Congratulations and keep it up!
You're killing it dude! I get excited about hearing Elon get normal interviewed, but walking around the SpaceX ships and facilities and having him improvise an answer about the crafts that are right there is priceless. I hope it makes the part of almost dying while wearing an old astronaut suit worth it.
Tim: “we’re going to be talking about very technical stuff in this video”.
Elon 2 minutes later: “we’ll in this case girth is more important than length”.
In case you forgot, the (probably) most impactful man in history named his company “Space-Sex”. Tesla models in order of release spell “SEXY”. And Musk means “the scent of an unwashed penis.” So… yup. All systems norminal.
Elon is super knowledgeable in a way he explain things. Great interview, All the best team!
Fantastic interview and tour. Waiting for part 2 to see stage 0.
Watching from Australia on my new Starlink system after also watching two Starlink launches within the last 24 hrs! 🤯🚀🚀✨🛰 What a time to be alive, Thanks Tim and Elon for sharing and inspiring the world! ✨🙏
Awesome! I cant wait to get starlink in Qld.
@@Steve211Ucdhihifvshi Im from QLD too, id love to try it out.
We got starlink since March in Germany. Works pretty well, the price seems fair considering the technology behind compared to the local internet network in the city. $110 in the US, €99 in Germany is Allright, but not for everyone.
@@scuffediceposeidon9178 What's the benefit of using Starlink compared to other internet providers?
It’s amazing that Elon would give the time and access for this interview. You can see that his answers are given serious thought before he responds. His mind is clearly always evaluating things as he thinks of them. The scope of the starship project is far beyond anything that has been built so far. It’s also apparent that he has a lot of ideas that will push technology well beyond the first generation of Starships.
It seems he struggles to find words to explain concepts so most of us might understand. I wonder if speaking with Elon might be similar to having spoken to Nicola Tesla. I think he is that far ahead of most of us.
I can also hear him thinking “crap is that ITAR restricted?” every time he pauses before answering a technical question.
People forget that Tesla was scared of women's hair and fell in love with a NYC street pigeon.
Dude, Your knowledge is impressive AF! Keep up the good work Man!
Elon is the coolest guy in the game. Haters are just jelous of the richest and smartest African American on the planet!
It still boggles my mind that people still vehemently insist Elon is "not an engineer" and is just a "delegator," "charlatan," or outright "scam artist." Anyone with even a small bit of technical savviness can watch this or any number of examples of Elon speaking on topics ad-lib and get a sense of just how wide and deep his level of knowledge and understanding is.
they want to believe what they are saying because they cannot admit Elon is different, (or that they could be wrong), I just ignore them.
For a thought experiment, wouldn't you have said just that if he was the greatest conman of all times?
It's also obvious that Elon collaborates with all the other engineers to produce optimal designs. He points in the general direction to go, and everyone has a say in all the details which get debated and analyzed.
@@timorieseler276
Interesting thought. Reminds me of the problem with "There is no creature out there that can perfectly hide itself"... You would only say that if something is perfect at it and you wouldn't know about its existence ^^
But to use a maybe stupid quote, there is no rule that says that a fake can't reach the real thing.
So at some point this expert conman who can fool everybody by having deep discussions about the knowledge he claims knowledge about, would actually stop being an imitation....? Because it would actually require those qualities... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Most of those people who say that know nothing.