Battle of Franklin with Greg Wade
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- Опубликовано: 29 ноя 2022
- Greg Wade, president of the Franklin (TN) Civil War Roundtable, talks with Emerging Civil War's Chris Mackowski about the battle of Franklin for its 158th anniversary.
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Really great interview. Besides being a great human being and author, Greg Wade is probably one of the most knowledgeable people on this battle that I have ever met. Each time I talk with him I learn something new and interesting.
When I saw the title, I thought of Brivet General Jack Casement, hero of that saving' of Frankfort, KY., for the Republic. General Jack garnered a reputation as an organizer of men. He went on to be Chief Construction Supervisor of the UP RR effort, starting in 1866, hired by Thomas Durant, UP Vice Pres. Thanks for the video. from Darrell, an "Origiinal Transcon Original RR" fan.😇
Casement held key ground in the core of the battlefield. Some say his actions saved this part of the federal line.
@@BethWade-rb7je Indeed, I can imagine, Beth. There is a story, which I believe to be true, that General Jack rode, and ran behind his horse,holding it's tail, 100 miles, chased, while Supervisor of UP construction, to warn his men of an Indian attack...He then sat down to a dinner, and grinned when his men asked him how he was...That story was told, I think by his son, Dan, to an author of a small book published in 1950, called "The Building of the First Transcon RR", by Nathan. I picked this book up recently from Amazon for a few dollars. Still had original kid's writing in it. Amazing history, and that which our recent generations have not heard...😵💫. I suggest a copy of "Westward to Promontory", by Barry Colmes, has A.J. Russell's original sized photos of that epic event. Also, if you are interested, The Trilogy by Robert Lee Murphy, Golden Spike, puts a real historical story to that "Moonshot of the 19th Century". And, also "Across the Continent", the photographs of A.J. Russell, (by Daniel Davis,) who as we know, was the only photographer hired by the Union Army, who chronicled disturbing, (to the public), photos of the effects of Civil War battles. Thanks, Beth, and Greg. Darrell. PS: Finally, Oakland Museum of CA. has digitized A.J. Russell photos. Thanks, again. PSS: Jack's wife, Francis, was an original Ohio Suffragette, also. Jack was quoted as saying he was the boss, til he got home...LOL. 😄
Was hoping their would be material related to the battle of Franklin posted today. Thank yah!
Hope you liked it!
@@emergingcivilwar8965 I definitely liked it. Especially hearing Greg Wade discuss the herculean effort to preserve land at Franklin. That story gives me hope for future battlefield land preservation.
looking for some information, what ive read about general cleburnes attack,it says ,he was seen advancing on foot , yet in sam watkins company h " the death angels gather its harvest " he says the generals mare had its front feet on the breast work and the general was hit 49times , thanks in advance from n.ireland
No mention of the 5th and 8th Tennesse counterattacking into Cleburne forces. Union regiments fron Confederate States seem be enterally awkward to the experts.
Subtle lost cause version of the Battle of Franklin. Union forces fist fighting to get across the river in almost panic thinking they lost. On the rebel side no discussion of losing but of victorious rebels in retreat showing elan and dash. Praise for the rebels for not surrendering is odd considering Civil War armies operating in the open were not destroyable. The exception being The ANV at Appomattox in the waning days of the conflict.
Grant certainly thought the AOT was "destroyable." He wrote to Thomas December 22, "If you succeed in destroying Hood's army there will be one army left." The rear guard saved Hood in a very close thing, and the AOT was never the same. It was noted Forrest failed at Spring Hill, the strength of Wilson at Franklin and the courage of both sides. Pointing out the valor, desperation, confusion and courage of men under tremendous stress is hardly lost cause.
@@BethWade-rb7je 1. yes it is lost cause when you point out cowardly yankese fist fighting to run away. Did wade talk about any rebs running away from the fight? Oh No?. Or the courage it took Yankees to hold off the fight? to do exactly there mission while Hood was failing in his? No there wasn't ergo it was lost cause propaganda Wade indulged in.
@@BethWade-rb7je 2. The AOT was not destroyed. So what Grant said was pretty pointless since it did not come to fruition. It also backs up my point about CW armies being destroyed in field. It happened only once. At Appomattox.
@@top_gallant From Chris: Actually, the Confederate armies at Donelson and Vicksburg were every bit as "destroyed" as the ANV at Appomattox. That subsequent logistical issued led to most of those men being released back into the conflict certainly makes it seemed like those armies weren't "destroyed," but at the times of those surrenders, those armies were every bit as whooped and impotent as Lee's at Appomattox.
@@emergingcivilwar8965 Where those armies in the field? No. they were besieged. Something like 70,000 rebs were captured when besieged. from Fort Donelson to the Spanish Fort in Mobile. They were not in the field in the open. Can you tell me of how many armies in open ground were destroyed? Just One.
This video is certinally a rosy glossed over description of the Army of Tennessee's biggest failure ever. Why so pro lost cause?
That is an interesting observation. I note the following comments in my presentation: "the battle was a massacre," Some of Hood's men "deserted" as they neared their homes, it was "ridiculous" to attack, there was a cost inflicted on the army, Opdycke saved the federal army, "Wilson did pretty well at Franklin" and by this time was pretty "formidable," Forrest had to take some blame for Spring Hill, a frontal assault at Franklin seemed "ludicrous," Hood held the ground "as hollow as that was," Hood going to Nashville was a "head scratcher" Ultimately they (AOT) were defeated. The comment that commanders like Stanley wanted to get to Nashville was a fact, not a failure on their part. No one wanted to be far south of Franklin. An example was the Battle of Thompson's Station where 1,500 federals were captured a few miles south of Franklin. Speaks to the difficulty of supplying and protecting troops south. I assumed people would understand that, not see it as a suggestion it was cowardice to march to get to the lines in Nashville. Heading to Nashville, Schofield was far out from his lines and was not looking for a fight. Stanley's report said after the BOF, "to remain longer at Franklin was to seriously hazard the loss of my army." If you really want to read about the aftermath of the battle, it is easy to do 158 years later and there are still debates. However, commanders on both sides argued for decades who acted bravely, who won the battle(s) and who lost it, I am not sure how any of this is "lost cause." And in my comments on courage, I noted the federals in their saddles for hours during the retreat and what young men went through. If you saw these as lost cause comments, it's because you see all Civil War history in that way. Franklin was a tragic and awful night in which the western army was destroyed with the loss of thousands of young men, on both sides. The town was traumatized for decades. If I failed to relay that, I do so here.