I edited this down from 90mins of footage of me over explaining everything and talking through lots of different layout options but that video would have been ridiculous. 30 mins is long enough! So if there is anything you would like me to explain in more detail, leave a comment below and I'll try my best to answer. Thanks for watching! 😁
If you are open to the idea it would be great to see some of the footage you cut from this video in another follow up video. Just hearing your thought processes is extremely educational; in particular pitfalls to be mindful of and know why some designs ideas work better than others.
when i used to sell kitchen appliances i used to talk to the customer about the 'kitchen triangle' - that is the route between the fridge, hob/oven and sink - they need to work for you. It can be a real time saver if they're well coordinated.
Hi Michael this is Jon (laura and Jon) loved the video 🙂 We’ve changed the window for a two and a half metre wide bifold window so we can put a big sinkin the middle. We’re not doing sink on the island now, just a panoramic hob which we may be putting under a ceramic worktop to make it invisible. On the 2 dishwashers, a friend has done it and it gets rid of dirty dishes if you’ve already got a wash cycle on, plus they tend to have a flow of ... Dirty dishes in washer Clean dishes taken directly out of other dishwasher for use. And circulated that way instead of using cupboards. We’re also not doing a corner return on the cupboards. Watching Michaels videos enabled us to make some important changes before it was too late. You’re welcome to have renders and video of finished kitchen for the channel. Thanks again for your input.
@@lauraharbidge7702 Hi. Did you look at the information in my other post on the difficulties in venting a hob on an island? As an aside, if you don't plan on standing at the sink hand washing dishes, and have two dishwashers, why put the washing up sink under the window? You're not going to be standing there doing the dishes for have an hour. What you might be doing is standing there washing and prepping vegetables, so why not change the sink to a smaller prep sink, put he hob on the exterior wall so it can be vented properly and have a longer "party sink" on the island"?
Hi Jon, Thanks so much! Pleased I could help. The window sounds great and I'd be very curious to see the invisible hob if you go for it! Please do keep me updated with your progress, it would be great to revisit everything once it finished! It's going to look amazing! Thanks again for letting me feature your plans. 😁
Hey Michael … I just stumbled across your channel …. And boy am I glad I did. I’m designing my kitchen and I’ve been watching your videos non-stop for the last 2 hours. I appreciate your advise and expert recommendations. Love your channel. I’m subscribed now.
I am also building my home and have been watching so much on the net. I just found this site and am happy I found it before I signed off on my design. Can you make a video regarding color. I am worried my dark granite will be to moody for a kitchen. I have a full wall of windows and a fireplace in the kitchen but the darker stone seems to anchor everything. Any thoughts on using darker natural stone as a backsplash, as most of your examples of stone are light in color.
I’m considering buying a small 624sq ft house 2 doors from me. The benefits are it comes with a double lot, so plenty of land to knock out the side of the house & build a much larger kitchen & bathroom. Your videos are helping me so much because I have never done this before! Thank you for sharing your knowledge with the world. God bless!
That was amazing, especially hearing you think aloud while sketching. How you pictured the morning routine made me fall in love with that idea of just leaving the corner in the upper right basically half empty so that it can be fully dedicated to a specific bunch of use cases in the kitchen instead of stuffing as many cabinets and even corner cabinets as possible into it, just for the sake of "you cannot have enough storage". That area becomes something like a "breakfast range" - I love it! And yes, I was surprised you are using pen and paper to get your thoughts and the creative process going. Something that I (being a User Experience Designer) also does. It makes you so focused on the first rough concepts around use cases and the spatiality of the room (area), or as we in the UX world call it, "Information Architecture".
WARNING - THIS IS LONG!! We have recently found your wonderfully helpful videos. Our kitchen will be a renovation (old sixties brick veneer in Oz). The funny thing is, this new-build layout is really similar to the one we currently have, and the way you have planned it is reassuringly not unlike our adaptation for our new one 😊. We have a small window in that upper left hand corner (it is only 12" from the corner 😁). We have planned for a longer one pretty much where yours is; which will of course be centred above the sink. We are Ikea fans; so will be going with them; but your discussion on corner cabinets was a real eye opener for us. We have that issue with the corner cabinet (under that little window corner). We didn't realise that you could choose which corner length houses the longest part of the cabinet! We thought it had to be the longest section down towards the sink. If we can swap that around to the other wall, where we also have the tall cabinets further down, this will help us a lot. Sorry for the length; but one more question 😝... I find it strange that a family that needs two dishwashers (lucky them!) should only need a narrow fridge. We aren't a big family anymore; but we find a "side-by-side" fridge freezer is only just big enough for the two of us. In fact I secretly yearn for a French Door/American style one; so that I can see all my fridge items more easily and have lower drawers for frozen items).! Thanks so much for your superb presentations. This is the best so far IMO.
I really liked this video. I’ve been using IKEA’s kitchen planning tool to help me plan out two kitchens-my main home and a vacation home. Hearing your thinking process really helped me-as you focused on how the space will be used. That made me revise my plans, to make sure I have considered details, such as: where will I store my oven mitts? This was invaluable. Thanks!
This is amazing, please do more of these vids!! I'm designing my kitchen and im struggling, here is a quick overview of it: It's W:390cm D:380cm H:270cm. South wall (390cm): 100 cm door (left most) (for tall cabinets: 90cm fridgre, 60cm built-in oven) (unfortunately it has a split ac unit mounted on the wall at 220cm height, not allowing me to take my cabinets all the way to wall) East wall (380cm): 60cm built in cooktop, 60cm range hood, 60cm deep cabinets, and 35cm deep wall cabinets. North wall (390cm): 150 cm window (112cm from west and 115cm from east) (has the sink and 60cm wide dishwasher) (no wall cabinets planned, but might add depending on available storage needed, I'd rather not though) West wall (380cm): 150cm service window (115cm from south, 115 from north). kitchen bar outlooking onto the living room (meaning seats will be in kitchen). The wall is 20cm deep, so the bar will only take 40cm from the kitchen. Im aiming for a minimalistic looking kitchen that is not too cramped with wall cabinets, and i want it to give off an open and breezy feel when you walk in! What I'm struggling with is maintaining symmetry! I dont know if i should go with a 50 or 60cm wide cabinets, but I always end up with a combination of 60,60,60,70 or 60,60,90,40, or 60,60,30...60,40. I just can't get it right, and my designer is worse than me with no imagination:) More details and faced -Bottom cabinets are 91cm high (8cm floor base, 78cm cabinets, 5cm countertop). 60cm deep. -wall cabinets are not limited by height
Thank you for this great info. I have some design experience and am doing my best to help my son move a kitchen to another room which is smaller than his present kitchen, so this tutorial has been invaluable. Trying to fit everything in a tiny space and have room for appliances and storage isn't easy! Especially as I prefer symmetry too and it's going to be nigh on impossible.
This is great though I have one question: DishwasherS? 👀 PS would love to see the evolution of this design, first feedback, 3D renders, even the finished kitchen... if allowed. Keep up the great work 👍
@@kitchinsider wow, we are a family of four and ours goes only goes on about 5x/week! Just finished our kitchen design (similar size/layout) didn't even know it was a thing :)
Love the way you explained how important it is to have your cabinets symmetrically aligned. I would love more tutorials like this in kitchen design and planning the layout please 😊
Hello Nick ,I recently found you on RUclips and am impressed with your advice Pls advice me on tiles over tiles in the kitchen as I am renovating the entire kitchen
Thanks, Michael, I work as a Kitchen designer/maker and your videos have been helpful for me. and thanks for explaining your reasoning for the layout. What type of paper/ drawing pad were you using as seemed idea for the job. keep up the great work. It would be amazing to see your whole process through the job.
Loved witnessing your thought process. I’m having an island approx 3m long max but the kitchen manufacturer has told me I can only have it 950mm wide (laminate) is that going to be too narrow to have the hob and bar stools opposite? An observation why are the clients having 2 dishwashers?
Thank you so much! I don't think that is too narrow, a 900/950 island depth is quite common. If you did want that little bit more space/separation you could look at getting a linear hob (sometimes called panoramic hob). It's a busy family home and I think two dishwashers would be very helpful for them (and was part of the brief). I've done several kitchens with two dishwashers over the years. Everyone has different needs/wants. 😁
Of course, I forgot you were going for a venting hob. You may struggle to find a linear venting hob (I can't think of any off the top of my head). Like I said, I don't think 950 will be a problem but maybe keep an eye on the hob dimensions if you can get a slightly slimmer one, it all helps. Thanks so much! 😊
I would love to see a pantry drawn out, both as a walk-in pantry or as a shallow depth wall pantry, I am personally not interested in a pantry cabinet.
Hi Tim, my usual go-to for integrated bins (any size) are Wesco. I've used them for years, I think they're good quality at a good price. There's so much choice though!
I think the owners would regret having the two dishwashers so far apart, with one so far from the sink. Why not put a dishwasher on either side of the sink, and the trash bins in the cupboards to the right, or even in the island directly opposite the sink.
Hi Michael , i thoroughly enjoy your videos. Is there an ideal ratio between the upper cabinet width related to the counter top width? & how high above the countertop should the upper cabinets be fitted? We have a relatively small kitchen & need to make use of available vertical space for storage. Countertop is 600mm wide. Thanks Ian
I know it’s been a tradition in kitchen design forever to place the sink under a window but I think it’s ridiculous to force the work flow to that standard when lighting design is so flexible now. When I design a new-build kitchen I start with work flow in relation to the way adjacent areas interact with the kitchen and also plumbing runs for other rooms.
Absolutely! There are lots of instances where I wouldn't put the sink under the window. It really depends on the room layout and (importantly) what the client wants. There may not be an appropriate window, they may want the sink on the island etc...For this particular design/client brief I think it makes most sense practically and aesthetically to put the sink under the window. Since filming, they have decided to extend the window which I think will benefit the room and layout options on that run.
Just discovered your channel. Love it. Would love to see how you guys go about making the best of a bog standard semi-detached kitchen 3.5m x 3.5m. A real challenge to make something from that.
I edited this down from 90mins of footage of me over explaining everything and talking through lots of different layout options but that video would have been ridiculous. 30 mins is long enough! So if there is anything you would like me to explain in more detail, leave a comment below and I'll try my best to answer. Thanks for watching! 😁
If you are open to the idea it would be great to see some of the footage you cut from this video in another follow up video. Just hearing your thought processes is extremely educational; in particular pitfalls to be mindful of and know why some designs ideas work better than others.
I would watch 90 min or even longer video
i think you are literally the only kitchen designer on youtube who thinks about cooking instead of just style
That is so true. I am focused on function first and then looks. My dream kitchen is to enhance my cooking experience.
when i used to sell kitchen appliances i used to talk to the customer about the 'kitchen triangle' - that is the route between the fridge, hob/oven and sink - they need to work for you. It can be a real time saver if they're well coordinated.
Hi Michael this is Jon (laura and Jon) loved the video 🙂
We’ve changed the window for a two and a half metre wide bifold window so we can put a big sinkin the middle.
We’re not doing sink on the island now, just a panoramic hob which we may be putting under a ceramic worktop to make it invisible. On the 2 dishwashers, a friend has done it and it gets rid of dirty dishes if you’ve already got a wash cycle on, plus they tend to have a flow of ...
Dirty dishes in washer
Clean dishes taken directly out of other dishwasher for use.
And circulated that way instead of using cupboards.
We’re also not doing a corner return on the cupboards.
Watching Michaels videos enabled us to make some important changes before it was too late.
You’re welcome to have renders and video of finished kitchen for the channel.
Thanks again for your input.
Ps “we like drawers”
@@lauraharbidge7702 Hi. Did you look at the information in my other post on the difficulties in venting a hob on an island? As an aside, if you don't plan on standing at the sink hand washing dishes, and have two dishwashers, why put the washing up sink under the window? You're not going to be standing there doing the dishes for have an hour. What you might be doing is standing there washing and prepping vegetables, so why not change the sink to a smaller prep sink, put he hob on the exterior wall so it can be vented properly and have a longer "party sink" on the island"?
Hi Jon, Thanks so much! Pleased I could help.
The window sounds great and I'd be very curious to see the invisible hob if you go for it! Please do keep me updated with your progress, it would be great to revisit everything once it finished! It's going to look amazing! Thanks again for letting me feature your plans. 😁
Thank you for this video! Would love to see more videos on how you do technical drawings for suppliers etc!
Hey Michael … I just stumbled across your channel …. And boy am I glad I did. I’m designing my kitchen and I’ve been watching your videos non-stop for the last 2 hours. I appreciate your advise and expert recommendations. Love your channel. I’m subscribed now.
Very kind. Thank you so much!
I am also building my home and have been watching so much on the net. I just found this site and am happy I found it before I signed off on my design. Can you make a video regarding color. I am worried my dark granite will be to moody for a kitchen. I have a full wall of windows and a fireplace in the kitchen but the darker stone seems to anchor everything. Any thoughts on using darker natural stone as a backsplash, as most of your examples of stone are light in color.
I’m considering buying a small 624sq ft house 2 doors from me. The benefits are it comes with a double lot, so plenty of land to knock out the side of the house & build a much larger kitchen & bathroom. Your videos are helping me so much because I have never done this before! Thank you for sharing your knowledge with the world. God bless!
I love love love LOVE all your videos (they are the best!) and tips. Please post more videos like this layout clip. It helps SO MUCH!
Yes love it!!!!
Do more please
Thank you so much! 😊👍
That was amazing, especially hearing you think aloud while sketching. How you pictured the morning routine made me fall in love with that idea of just leaving the corner in the upper right basically half empty so that it can be fully dedicated to a specific bunch of use cases in the kitchen instead of stuffing as many cabinets and even corner cabinets as possible into it, just for the sake of "you cannot have enough storage". That area becomes something like a "breakfast range" - I love it! And yes, I was surprised you are using pen and paper to get your thoughts and the creative process going. Something that I (being a User Experience Designer) also does. It makes you so focused on the first rough concepts around use cases and the spatiality of the room (area), or as we in the UX world call it, "Information Architecture".
Thanks, Michael, I work as a Kitchen designer in Ireland and your videos have been helpful for me.
WARNING - THIS IS LONG!!
We have recently found your wonderfully helpful videos. Our kitchen will be a renovation (old sixties brick veneer in Oz). The funny thing is, this new-build layout is really similar to the one we currently have, and the way you have planned it is reassuringly not unlike our adaptation for our new one 😊.
We have a small window in that upper left hand corner (it is only 12" from the corner 😁). We have planned for a longer one pretty much where yours is; which will of course be centred above the sink.
We are Ikea fans; so will be going with them; but your discussion on corner cabinets was a real eye opener for us. We have that issue with the corner cabinet (under that little window corner). We didn't realise that you could choose which corner length houses the longest part of the cabinet! We thought it had to be the longest section down towards the sink. If we can swap that around to the other wall, where we also have the tall cabinets further down, this will help us a lot.
Sorry for the length; but one more question 😝... I find it strange that a family that needs two dishwashers (lucky them!) should only need a narrow fridge. We aren't a big family anymore; but we find a "side-by-side" fridge freezer is only just big enough for the two of us. In fact I secretly yearn for a French Door/American style one; so that I can see all my fridge items more easily and have lower drawers for frozen items).!
Thanks so much for your superb presentations. This is the best so far IMO.
I'm redoing my galley kitchen and making it an open plan so this was very helpful to see how you manage the space.
I'm so pleased it was helpful! Good luck with your project! 😁
We need to start paying for this lessons thank you so much
😊 You're very welcome! Thank you for the kind comment!
Thank you explained what all viewers neeed
I really liked this video. I’ve been using IKEA’s kitchen planning tool to help me plan out two kitchens-my main home and a vacation home. Hearing your thinking process really helped me-as you focused on how the space will be used. That made me revise my plans, to make sure I have considered details, such as: where will I store my oven mitts? This was invaluable. Thanks!
Like this style of planning the kitchen, specifically the waste management in the upper corner (right).
Very clear English well explained
This is amazing, please do more of these vids!!
I'm designing my kitchen and im struggling, here is a quick overview of it:
It's W:390cm D:380cm H:270cm.
South wall (390cm): 100 cm door (left most) (for tall cabinets: 90cm fridgre, 60cm built-in oven) (unfortunately it has a split ac unit mounted on the wall at 220cm height, not allowing me to take my cabinets all the way to wall)
East wall (380cm): 60cm built in cooktop, 60cm range hood, 60cm deep cabinets, and 35cm deep wall cabinets.
North wall (390cm): 150 cm window (112cm from west and 115cm from east) (has the sink and 60cm wide dishwasher) (no wall cabinets planned, but might add depending on available storage needed, I'd rather not though)
West wall (380cm): 150cm service window (115cm from south, 115 from north). kitchen bar outlooking onto the living room (meaning seats will be in kitchen). The wall is 20cm deep, so the bar will only take 40cm from the kitchen.
Im aiming for a minimalistic looking kitchen that is not too cramped with wall cabinets, and i want it to give off an open and breezy feel when you walk in!
What I'm struggling with is maintaining symmetry! I dont know if i should go with a 50 or 60cm wide cabinets, but I always end up with a combination of 60,60,60,70 or 60,60,90,40, or 60,60,30...60,40. I just can't get it right, and my designer is worse than me with no imagination:)
More details and faced
-Bottom cabinets are 91cm high (8cm floor base, 78cm cabinets, 5cm countertop). 60cm deep.
-wall cabinets are not limited by height
Your RUclips channel is exceptional ! Thank you so much for your work
Thanks so much!
Thank you for this great info. I have some design experience and am doing my best to help my son move a kitchen to another room which is smaller than his present kitchen, so this tutorial has been invaluable. Trying to fit everything in a tiny space and have room for appliances and storage isn't easy! Especially as I prefer symmetry too and it's going to be nigh on impossible.
Thank you! Tons of very useful info and considerations spelt out from a designer’s point of view. Just subscribed!
This is great though I have one question: DishwasherS? 👀
PS would love to see the evolution of this design, first feedback, 3D renders, even the finished kitchen... if allowed. Keep up the great work 👍
Thanks! Haha - Yes, a family home where two dishwashers would be helpful for them. I've done a few kitchens with two over the years.
@@kitchinsider wow, we are a family of four and ours goes only goes on about 5x/week! Just finished our kitchen design (similar size/layout) didn't even know it was a thing :)
@gordonkelly you should get with the times my friend, me and the wife have 3 dishwashers, 4 sinks and 11 built in microwaves. Modernity.
Love the way you explained how important it is to have your cabinets symmetrically aligned. I would love more tutorials like this in kitchen design and planning the layout please 😊
Beautiful! Love your work process ! ❤
Are they right handed, or left? Where do you put the hood if the hob goes in the island? You’re amazing. I wish I had a nice kd like you.❤
Hello Nick ,I recently found you on RUclips and am impressed with your advice
Pls advice me on tiles over tiles in the kitchen as I am renovating the entire kitchen
Keep up the great work! Thank you.
Thank you! And thanks for watching/commenting! 👍
I enjoyed your video and your logic for your decisions. Very helpful to understand your thought process.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks, Michael, I work as a Kitchen designer/maker and your videos have been helpful for me. and thanks for explaining your reasoning for the layout. What type of
paper/ drawing pad were you using as seemed idea for the job. keep up the great work. It would be amazing to see your whole process through the job.
I believe he used an A3 Grid Pad.
Yor are so good. I wish I could hire you for my small remodel....Love your videos. Thank you
Fantastic tutorial; very similar to my own kitchen lay-out (mine is smaller:-)
Loved this thank you
Glad you enjoyed it!
Loved witnessing your thought process. I’m having an island approx 3m long max but the kitchen manufacturer has told me I can only have it 950mm wide (laminate) is that going to be too narrow to have the hob and bar stools opposite? An observation why are the clients having 2 dishwashers?
Thank you so much! I don't think that is too narrow, a 900/950 island depth is quite common. If you did want that little bit more space/separation you could look at getting a linear hob (sometimes called panoramic hob). It's a busy family home and I think two dishwashers would be very helpful for them (and was part of the brief). I've done several kitchens with two dishwashers over the years. Everyone has different needs/wants. 😁
@@kitchinsider Thanks for your advice about the width 👍🏼I want a vented hob so will see if there are linear one. Keep the videos coming they’re great
Of course, I forgot you were going for a venting hob. You may struggle to find a linear venting hob (I can't think of any off the top of my head). Like I said, I don't think 950 will be a problem but maybe keep an eye on the hob dimensions if you can get a slightly slimmer one, it all helps. Thanks so much! 😊
Love your content, thanks for sharing
Thanks for watching!
Great video! Love your content sir!
Thank you kindly!
I would love to see a pantry drawn out, both as a walk-in pantry or as a shallow depth wall pantry, I am personally not interested in a pantry cabinet.
Am I the only person who woukd like some advice on 600mm bin options? Prices and options vary so much. Help!
Hi Tim, my usual go-to for integrated bins (any size) are Wesco. I've used them for years, I think they're good quality at a good price. There's so much choice though!
I think the owners would regret having the two dishwashers so far apart, with one so far from the sink. Why not put a dishwasher on either side of the sink, and the trash bins in the cupboards to the right, or even in the island directly opposite the sink.
If the ovens and fridge are on the same wall, how will the work triangle be achieved?
idesign my KL using adobe animate. set the grid view and use line tools. works perfectly and i can do many version
Hi Michael , i thoroughly enjoy your videos. Is there an ideal ratio between the upper cabinet width related to the counter top width? & how high above the countertop should the upper cabinets be fitted? We have a relatively small kitchen & need to make use of available vertical space for storage. Countertop is 600mm wide. Thanks Ian
great video - i like the subtitle mistakes - bar stools = bastards LOL!
Haha! Thanks for letting me know! 😂
Very helpful
Why would anyone need two standard size dish washers? Are they running a B&B or something?
I wish you would have uploaded the original 90 minutes video us new kitchen designers would have learned all the maths you have done
I can't see the writings very well but it is cool
I know it’s been a tradition in kitchen design forever to place the sink under a window but I think it’s ridiculous to force the work flow to that standard when lighting design is so flexible now.
When I design a new-build kitchen I start with work flow in relation to the way adjacent areas interact with the kitchen and also plumbing runs for other rooms.
Absolutely! There are lots of instances where I wouldn't put the sink under the window. It really depends on the room layout and (importantly) what the client wants. There may not be an appropriate window, they may want the sink on the island etc...For this particular design/client brief I think it makes most sense practically and aesthetically to put the sink under the window. Since filming, they have decided to extend the window which I think will benefit the room and layout options on that run.
Why 2 dishwashers?
A closed off kitchen room?
Why two dish washers 😮
Sorry Mike ..got your name wrong
Just discovered your channel. Love it. Would love to see how you guys go about making the best of a bog standard semi-detached kitchen 3.5m x 3.5m. A real challenge to make something from that.
2 dishwashers?