GameCube HDMI Adapter VS Official Component, S-Video, & Composite

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  • Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024
  • We review ZeldaXPro's GameCube HDMI option - the GC Video Plug and Play! We compare this with composite, s-video, official GameCube component, and Wii component!
    We also take a look at these formats with the Game Boy Interface.
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    Metal Jesus Rocks video on the GC HDMI Plug and Play: • Video
    Games covered:
    Super Smash Bros Melee
    Doshin The Giant
    Pikmin 2
    F-Zero GX
    Gunstar Super Heroes
    Battletoads
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Комментарии • 390

  • @hard4games
    @hard4games  6 лет назад +128

    We mentioned the Wii emulates GameCube - it is backwards compatible and essentially has the same architecture. So emulation is a bit of a misnomer - but you get the idea....

    • @emmettturner9452
      @emmettturner9452 6 лет назад +14

      Hard4Games You said the same thing about the Game Boy Player. That is basically a screen less, controller less, battery less, GBA with video/controls feeding through the GameCube.

    • @emmettturner9452
      @emmettturner9452 6 лет назад +1

      Oh yeah: There was an emulation-based unofficial GBA adapter: The Datel Advanced Game Port. It would literally dump then emulate your GBA games. GBA *only*

    • @emmettturner9452
      @emmettturner9452 6 лет назад

      Natural Mystic Hey genius: You might have noticed that the video was ABOUT sharing such little details. That’s why it exists. People who genuinely want those details will want these. Adding to them, filling in the blanks, and clarifying is constructive. What you are doing is not.

    • @crimsama2451
      @crimsama2451 6 лет назад

      probably a dumb question but how does gamecube emulation on the Wii U compare to the Wii emulation?

    • @ucitymetalhead
      @ucitymetalhead 6 лет назад

      Will the wii run the rogue squadron 2 and 3 games without issue?

  • @westonryan2698
    @westonryan2698 6 лет назад +111

    I miss the days when it all looked good to me

    • @AlbertPuljos
      @AlbertPuljos 4 года назад +5

      Then buy a crt tv lol it still does look good imo.

    • @Lucas_van_Hout
      @Lucas_van_Hout 3 года назад

      This

    • @drewowen1995
      @drewowen1995 3 года назад

      No shit

    • @YoutubeApestaACACA
      @YoutubeApestaACACA 3 года назад +1

      @@AlbertPuljos no work. I buy a 55" tv. Rear proyector.
      And i have different ptobl3ms

    • @parttimereaper4993
      @parttimereaper4993 3 месяца назад

      Still looks good cause graphics aren't everything 😂

  • @emmettturner9452
    @emmettturner9452 6 лет назад +9

    The thing about low latency through the component cable is that your TV’s image processor will still add latency unless you have a really old component CRT with no digital inputs. For most HDTVs you can get lower latency with HDMI by setting the adapter to output the native resolution (or an integer multiple) then disable the TVs overscan compensation (usually possible in the menu but often hidden/obfuscated). This reduces the effort the TV’s scalers used to adapt to the panel because it will not need to create “in between” pixels when scaling. It should also be faster than component input when your TV still has to convert to digital anyway.

  • @pip3848
    @pip3848 6 лет назад +46

    I struck gold when I was at a bootsale/flea market and found a guy selling a GameCube console with 2 controllers, power cable, wrestle mania, composite cable and component cable where wrapped up together all for £25 which it about $35 US
    So many people must have walked past it and not even noticed.

    • @Nightcaat
      @Nightcaat 6 лет назад +3

      🤑

    • @GoBenC
      @GoBenC 6 лет назад

      but I though in europe the gamecube only had composite output?

    • @pip3848
      @pip3848 6 лет назад +2

      Only on the later model GameCubes, earlier models had component out.

    • @ThreeDaysOfDan
      @ThreeDaysOfDan 6 лет назад +2

      so many people couldn't give a shit about it . The game cube , like the ps1 is useless. The ps2/ Wii have native hardware to play the entire library

    • @saysoun752
      @saysoun752 6 лет назад

      Josh I was going to make the same statement but you beat me to it.

  • @SNBfilms
    @SNBfilms 6 лет назад +3

    Glad you showed comparisons with the GB Player using the Gameboy Interface Software. Just what I was looking for. Would love to see a more in-depth video with a focus on Gameboy Player + GBI and the OSSC. Comparisons of line-doubling, tripling, and other setting adjustments to achieve the "best" picture. Thanks for the content, subbed.

  • @Xilefian
    @Xilefian 6 лет назад +60

    Wii just straight up runs GameCube games, no emulation happening. The console is pretty much a GameCube 1.5 hardware.

    • @JohnDoe-xh5wp
      @JohnDoe-xh5wp 6 лет назад +6

      But it ain't got no Gameboy player sadly

    • @SummonerArthur
      @SummonerArthur 6 лет назад +2

      my wii is kinda blurry.

    • @Wallyworld30
      @Wallyworld30 6 лет назад

      Are you using Wii Component cables? Composite is blurry no matter what console you use.

    • @Wallyworld30
      @Wallyworld30 6 лет назад +1

      I believe the Wii uses emulation to play gamecube.

    • @SummonerArthur
      @SummonerArthur 6 лет назад

      Marty Moose I'm using composite (yellow, white and red)
      I was thinking in buying a component cable, but I was not sure if it would help in the games I play

  • @Jannemandevries
    @Jannemandevries 6 лет назад +40

    F-zero GX supports widescreen, why didn't you use that? It's in the game's settings somewhere.

    • @gianbasta
      @gianbasta 4 года назад +6

      It is anamorphic widescreen and it degrades the image

  • @ZachAttackIsBack
    @ZachAttackIsBack 6 лет назад +3

    I was one of the weirdos that ordered a GameCube component cable back in 2002. It was awesome at the time on my 50" widescreen projection TV. Imagine my delight 14 years later when I realized I could sell that cable for $300.

    • @selohcin
      @selohcin 11 месяцев назад

      Yeah, that's awesome. I still have my component cable for the GameCube, but how do I use it on a modern monitor? There's no component input.

  • @matt4193
    @matt4193 6 лет назад +43

    The Nintendo Wii does not use emulation, rather, it clocks down its CPU and GPU (since both the GC and Wii have the same specs)

    • @hard4games
      @hard4games  6 лет назад +9

      +Matt Thanks! We are aware, but didn't really bother explaining. Since it isnt really ( but basically is) GameCube architecture calling it emulation was just easier.

    • @arioca
      @arioca 6 лет назад +18

      It's still misinformation that should be somehow acknowledged in this video… perhaps adding a note would be beneficial.

    • @hard4games
      @hard4games  6 лет назад +7

      Wrote a comment correcting the verbiage.

    • @btaylor462
      @btaylor462 6 лет назад

      does that media player disc/card reader work on the wii?

    • @joshualane1716
      @joshualane1716 6 лет назад

      Not to mention you can emulate GBA games on the Wii haha

  • @Artzei
    @Artzei 6 лет назад +19

    I'm pretty sure that the PAL GameCubes (European and maybe even Australian ones) have a native RGB resolution,
    since in here at least there were official RGB SCART cables made by Nintendo.

    • @BacktothePixels
      @BacktothePixels 6 лет назад +3

      You are right. I use one on my Gamecube. Nintendo produced these Cables but 3rd party companys too. They are very cheap.

    • @Knightmessenger
      @Knightmessenger 6 лет назад

      Did NTSC not have native RGB?

    • @Artzei
      @Artzei 6 лет назад

      Knightmessenger As the guys said on the video, no native RGB supported on US NTSC GameCube. Not sure about the Japanese NTSC GameCubes.

    • @Psevdonim123
      @Psevdonim123 6 лет назад +2

      Yes. But you can't use 480p over RGB because there are no PAL games that support progressive scan. Even if you force 480p trough Swiss or something, or boot NTSC game on modded PAL Gamecube, it will not work. 480p works only trough digital out.

  • @xyanide1986
    @xyanide1986 6 лет назад +3

    My goodness I had no idea the gamecube could look this good! One of your best tech videos guys!

  • @MrCalarie
    @MrCalarie 6 лет назад +11

    Great video, honestly one of the best videos on these comparisons. I'll just stick to Wii component lol.

    • @wojiaobill
      @wojiaobill 6 лет назад

      that's what im sayin~!

    • @hard4games
      @hard4games  6 лет назад +2

      +Colton Stradling Thank you! Don't blame you for sticking to Wii Component! It's a great option!

    • @AirshBornely
      @AirshBornely 6 лет назад +2

      That's what I've been satisfied for years, but after seeing 480p looking better off the original GameCube from My Life in Gaming, I'm interested in this device.

  • @StormsparkPegasus
    @StormsparkPegasus 6 лет назад +1

    Nintendo was REALLY forward thinking with that digital out port on the GC. It was pretty much useless in 2001 when the GC was released. The component cable actually has a converter box in the cable itself. The port also supports audio (which the GC component cable doesn't have at all). It just turns out that port is very easy to convert to HDMI (everything is digital already). The Wii doesn't support HDMI at all, there are converter boxes out there that use the component connectors but that introduces noise (digital/analog conversion always introduces noise). The best solution for playing GC and Wii games is a Gamecube with an HDMI adapter, and a Wii U to handle the Wii games.

    • @richy69ify
      @richy69ify Год назад

      The official Component cable was for Australia and New Zealand TVs and some of Asia as they never had Scart, but had component as the higher end connection from the late 1990s. Lik-Sang was a popular seller of that cable.

  • @johnmcgaugie7580
    @johnmcgaugie7580 6 лет назад +2

    metal jesus bullied the HDMI guy, because of his drunk friend

  • @Superneoncj
    @Superneoncj 6 лет назад +1

    It’s wild to me how much the component cables for the GameCube are today. I bought the cable from Nintendo right after the GameCube launched for I think $30. I’m happy I still have that cable today.

    • @everythingpony
      @everythingpony 6 лет назад

      Michael Balderson its because the only sold them online with no advertising

  • @TheManCaveYTChannel
    @TheManCaveYTChannel 6 лет назад +1

    I ordered a pal GameCube to use rgb for the game boy player using game boy interface. But that was before the new hdmi hookup for GameCube. I still play my GameCube games on the Wii. My GameCube is basically a dedicated game boy player now.

  • @vgr8111
    @vgr8111 6 лет назад +1

    I have the official component cables for the GCN. They're great, but they're not easy to come by. I purchased mine directly from Nintendo's website back in the day.
    A much more reasonable HDMI alternative is the $15 HDMI adaptor for the Wii.

  • @KamiKitsuneVA
    @KamiKitsuneVA 6 лет назад +23

    You've finally showed the GameCube port of Doshin on the channel!!!!!
    Also, I prefer the component over HDMI cause I still use a CRT.

    • @AirshBornely
      @AirshBornely 6 лет назад +1

      PrussianKamikaze I'd get the component cables if they weren't so pricey. A listing on eBay started at $50 and is now at $160. Getting them under a $100 is a pipe dream.

    • @KamiKitsuneVA
      @KamiKitsuneVA 6 лет назад

      Another option is D-Terminal cables. They go for about $160. Right now component cables are about $300

    • @VinchVolt
      @VinchVolt 6 лет назад +1

      The component cables were never gonna be cheap secondhand; Nintendo made so little of them because the sparse amount of component-compatible TVs at the time of the GameCube's launch meant that less than 1% of all GameCube owners actually bought the cables.
      As for the D-Terminal cables, I'd say that if you're gonna consider grabbing those, you might also wanna factor in the price of a D-Terminal to component/HDMI adapter, since D-Terminal was only popularly supported in Japan.

    • @SPIDER-ut3wt
      @SPIDER-ut3wt 6 лет назад

      PrussianKamikaze Rock on, CRT's!

  • @AirshBornely
    @AirshBornely 6 лет назад

    Awesome video. Saw MetalJesus video on it, but it's cool seeing a second opinion of it. I've been fine with Wii Component and GC S-Video for years, but I'm interested it buying this for my recently bought Digital-Out GameCube. I see it makes GameBoy Player games look great and heard it has a better video signal than the first generation Wii, so yeah.

  • @WednesdayMan
    @WednesdayMan 6 лет назад +6

    "as you can see the wii can Emulate gamecube games"
    pretty sure it has gamecube hardware, the reason for the removal of the gamecube ports and memory card slots was to reduce costs by not having gamecube parts in the later wiis, I have a wii with gamecube ports.

    • @everythingpony
      @everythingpony 6 лет назад

      TheKHfan358over3d what?

    • @Caruniom
      @Caruniom 6 лет назад

      No, the Wii CPU/GPU are just slightly updated versions of the same as the gamecube. The cost that was saved by removing the ports was the cost of the ports and a more simplified dvd drive load mechanism. Even the WiiU can still clock down to the gamecube mode (through homebrew).

  • @jevansturner
    @jevansturner 6 лет назад +5

    [OK, I see your comment addresses this distinction] I think it's inaccurate to refer to Gamecube games on Wii as "emulation." The code runs natively on the Wii CPU and GPU. It is not interpreted. The chips were updated, but maintain a perfect backward compatibility mode. I also would not refer to Game Boy Player as "emulation." It has a set of actual GBA chips inside, so the games run exactly as they would on a GBA (no emulation).

    • @everythingpony
      @everythingpony 6 лет назад

      jevansturner yeah, and they call themselfs hard4games when they dont know what they are talking about sometimes, while also drinking

    • @wilconbarro3469
      @wilconbarro3469 6 лет назад

      wii has gba emulator and they said it cannot emulate, they should have said the gameboy player is not supported

  • @emmettturner9452
    @emmettturner9452 6 лет назад

    My Sony XBR910 looks jaggy with progressive scan component and smooth with S-Video. This is because the TV does less image processing to a 480p signal. It actually looks better with S-video. The tiny squirrel on the title screen to 1080 Avalanche actually looks like a squirrel with S-video but looks like a blob of pixels with prog scan component. Noticed this way back in 2003. The day the Wii launched I noticed that a moire pattern my TV showed in prog scan GC Wind Waker does not show in prog scan on the Wii, so I knew from day 1 that there was something different with the prog scan GC output of the two.
    To reduce the jaggies, add scanlines and let your brain imagine twice as many “steps” between the pixels. It works!

  • @startedtech
    @startedtech 6 лет назад +2

    "got unseated and shorted his GameCube"
    His drunk girlfriend ripped it off the shelf while it was plugged in.

    • @everythingpony
      @everythingpony 6 лет назад

      Sam T yeah, dumbass should have had wavebirds

  • @Wokiis
    @Wokiis 6 лет назад +23

    PAL gamecube supports RGB scart

    • @kargaroc386
      @kargaroc386 6 лет назад

      I wonder how they managed that, since the framebuffer in the gamecube GPU is a YUV framebuffer. Do they just convert it back to RGB?

    • @JBalmoreS
      @JBalmoreS 6 лет назад

      I think so, RGB and YUV are near enough the same signal, just different coding. Some Scart cables can sync on luma, just like a component cable.

    • @jemert96
      @jemert96 5 лет назад

      Was gonna mention the same thing. It's still interlaced though.

    • @garlandstrife
      @garlandstrife 5 лет назад

      Pal sucks

    • @M1XART
      @M1XART 4 месяца назад

      Doesn't matter as PAL NGC games does not support 480p. I got official NGC Component Cables as new around 60€.
      It was some 20+ years ago.
      Sometimes it's better not to wait, obviously. It's the best option for PAL NGC when using Freeloader for NTSC gaming.

  • @TeamGun
    @TeamGun Год назад +1

    I prefer to use Wii hooked up to a 27" crt with component. I do have a few gamecube consoles and the official component cable (I bought it back in the day, didn't pay $30000000 for it). But the Wii is so simple to modify, so I use the Wii for gamecube, along with playing genesis, snes, and nes on the Wii on a crt via component and use the SNES Mini controller with the Wii remote for controls, and I find this set up perfect.

  • @micksterminator3
    @micksterminator3 3 месяца назад

    I basically put away my GameCube since I got the Wii. Just gave it another go when I got a 27" curved Panasonic CRT during the pandemic. Tried composite and thought it looked so bad. Finally got some cheapo 2 dollar Ali express s video cables a week ago and am so impressed. Really sharpens everything up. You can tell the Wii component kinda messes with the signal according to your pics. Kinda over exposed on highlights. Real happy I finally tried it out. Waiting on a ed64 plus to try out my N64 in 240p with s video

  • @dirtyg9444
    @dirtyg9444 6 лет назад

    Saw you on MJR and had to sub, love the channel. Thanks for sharing all your knowledge, you guys are awesome! Love the videos and Nintendo, all the best

  • @jantheman2
    @jantheman2 6 лет назад

    Got lucky and found a dude selling a GCHD adapter for $40. It's pretty cool but YMMV depending on the game you play. It's clear to me that many developers depended on the blurriness of CRT TVs as some games look pretty bad with the straight digital signal.
    I also noticed new things because of the better picture. I used to think Resident Evil 3 was just Resident Evil 2.5. It looked pretty much the same graphically on old CRT TVs. However, playing them on an HD TV in 480i shows a big difference. The backgrounds all have a much higher resolution in RE3 than the RE2 backgrounds did.

  • @SkellerART
    @SkellerART 6 лет назад +1

    I run my Gamecube Games on my Wii through the Nintendont program which can be used to force all Gamecube Games to play in Progressive Scan and Widescreen then output through an HDMI Upscaler.
    Not gonna lie, I love it.

    • @meganutHUGE
      @meganutHUGE 6 лет назад

      use dolphin on pc. its 4k

    • @AgentXRifle
      @AgentXRifle 6 лет назад

      Diego Davalos do both, original hardware has an appeal to it... The only part that sucks is needing to use the wiimote to start the gamecube game on the wii... but that's nothing really

    • @sammiches6859
      @sammiches6859 4 года назад

      Swiss can do the same. Would rather have an all digital signal instead of the Wii cables.

  • @SuperForRealsWiiGamr
    @SuperForRealsWiiGamr 6 лет назад

    I also ordered one from ZeldaPro! I'm glad to see that it works flawlessly.

  • @Jeu_22
    @Jeu_22 6 лет назад +1

    The best way is play on a modded Wii because you can force progressive mode, 16:9 and use the extra power of the Wii for more FPS on unlocked frames games

  • @LawnMeower
    @LawnMeower 6 лет назад

    Nice you picked F-Zero GX for comparison. Did you pick the NTSC or PAL version? The PAL version doesn't support 480p :/

  • @ronrichison6435
    @ronrichison6435 4 года назад

    I didn't have to spend money---I traded a white wii u gamepad for the component cables. btw 3d printed cables are showing up on eBay to find them type the following: GCMax for Gamecube DOL-001 HDMI / Component adapter GC Video Plug Max gcvideo
    Also there is a Github for the software the seller likely used in making it download those files immediately! So you can make your own component cables but it is hard work.

  • @tigheklory
    @tigheklory 6 лет назад +1

    I was fortunate to buy the component video cables back in the day from Nintendo directly, so I think I paid $30.

  • @GarageLoot
    @GarageLoot 6 лет назад

    This is one of the most helpful videos on this topic. Thank you so much! You got a new follower!

  • @Kenshin9977
    @Kenshin9977 6 лет назад +7

    *Watching this video while playing Dolphin in 4K60fps FXAA x16*

  • @VinchVolt
    @VinchVolt 6 лет назад

    I've got a Wii with some Nyko component cables, and I'm currently content with how that setup looks and plays on my LCD TV. I do actually want to get a model 1 GameCube and either the GameCube component cables or the HDMI adapter someday (partly because of the novelty of it, partly because I was a GameCube kid growing up), though considering how expensive a secondhand GameCube alone is, it'll certainly be a while before I'll be able to get one. At the moment though, Wii through component is enough to suffice, even if it's _slightly_ blurrier than GameCube through component.

  • @King_K_Rool_
    @King_K_Rool_ 6 лет назад +3

    You guys are so silly...
    And i love it!

  • @arranmc182
    @arranmc182 6 лет назад

    FYI PAL GameCubes do fully support RGB its what I used here in the UK to play mine via SCART, great video BTW :)

  • @jcreazy
    @jcreazy 6 лет назад

    I was wondering if you were going to mention Metal Jesus. So much drama around that. Glad it was fixed.

  • @jvcdeadmoney
    @jvcdeadmoney 5 лет назад

    The only good thing about the PAL Gamecube is that at least we have RGB, and the official cable can be found at a reasonable price. The downside is that PAL games never have 480p as an option so if we want to upgrade to component/HDMI and get the best out of our PAL console, we have to import NTSC games. That's why I think I'll just stick with RGB because it's more convenient and the quality is really good.

  • @shao247
    @shao247 4 года назад +1

    Holy crap i have that Gamecube component cable... I would never imagine it being so valuable wowzers

  • @Killertamagotchi
    @Killertamagotchi 6 лет назад +5

    the Game Cube has native RGB Out but not for NTSC only for PAL Game Cubes ;)

    • @tetsujin_144
      @tetsujin_144 6 лет назад +1

      IIRC though that still doesn't get you 480p.

  • @retroregamer7219
    @retroregamer7219 6 лет назад

    Honestly, it was such a high monetary point of entry for me with Component I settled on SVideo for the GCU in my PVM setup. I could try HDMI next I guess but then I'd have to convert it to analog for my PVM so honestly SVideo is the best for me right now.

  • @kaveets24
    @kaveets24 2 года назад

    I still have the original nintendo component cable that can do progressive scan, but I no longer have a tv with component inputs. Should I go with a component to hdmi adapter?

  • @Richter.Belmont
    @Richter.Belmont 6 лет назад

    You guys have one kick-ass channel!

  • @coreyhawkins5081
    @coreyhawkins5081 6 лет назад

    Sure show off the NPDP. Awesome vid guys. The HDMI adapter is amazing. FYI: the HDMI adapter does not work well at all on rear projection Tv's. It washes the color out really bad. I tried this on 2 different rear projection sets and it was the same result.
    GC games played thru the Wii U using VC injection is a very good option also. It's a noticeable difference when compared to the Wii.

  • @retro-takuvideogames5790
    @retro-takuvideogames5790 6 лет назад

    Any chance you could do a comparison of the various NES systems - the original, Retron, Retron HD, Retron 5, AVS, Analog NT, etc?

  • @joseluisruiz3789
    @joseluisruiz3789 6 лет назад

    I have the version 2 of the HDMI adapter. You know the one that Metal Jesus was complaining about that that one girl pulled out and drop for horse playing? Well I've had mine for almost a year and it works excellent. I've moved it around and nothing happens. I would like to upgrade to version 3 but it's not necessary, I love that it looks Cleaner vs composite and my Gameboy player games look great on it. I would recommend one but onlt if you love using the Original hardware otherwise you can use the Wii but it won't look the same, you won't be able to do scan lines and you also won't have 60Fps.

  • @EvilConsole
    @EvilConsole 6 лет назад

    I watch you guys all the time, I just wanna say thanks for what you do. Keep it up.

  • @OliGaming-d1u
    @OliGaming-d1u 2 месяца назад

    I have just heard of adapters frying consoles. I'm worried now. I'm using a N64toHDMI adapter on my GameCube (wanted only one for both) but there are a lot of artifacts, ghosting and weird vertical lines apparent on light colors. The image is very clear though and it only cost $20. It plugs directly in the console too. That whole frying thing makes me want to go back to my generic $10 composite to HDMI adapter though. It' cheap and the image is blurrier but hey, I'm using the OG composite cable that came with the console this way for a more authentic experience I guess. I still have my CRT from my childhood but it only has mono sound and no widescreen for the games that support it. Stereo sound alone makesa good argument for playing on my 4k Bravia.

  • @TylerSteven9
    @TylerSteven9 6 лет назад

    I don't think it was answered whether the sound comes out of that HDMI converter or do you need to use the Red and White sound cables in conjuction with it?

  • @yobtar
    @yobtar 6 лет назад

    I feel so lucky and have the official component cables I was a really early adopter of component on my PS2 as my TV had it and I played Everquest Online and it made the text so much easier to read I then ordered it for my gamecube back in the day. The question is should I sell my component cables and buy the HDMI adapter since the quality seems so close. I can't really tell what I like more HDMI or Component.

  • @conrad5342
    @conrad5342 6 лет назад

    Thanks die the video. Are you planing to do a video about the gcvideo X2 ? That would be really nice.

  • @jorgehernandez208
    @jorgehernandez208 7 месяцев назад

    i miss the times when you just turn on the console and the game is ready to play. Those days are gone to never come back.

  • @FraterSpiritus
    @FraterSpiritus 2 года назад

    As someone who owns component cables already, I definitely have no reason to switch lol, great video either way!

  • @HyperSonic1999orJTH
    @HyperSonic1999orJTH 6 лет назад

    While it does suck that the wii isn't compatible with the gameboy player, but there are other ways to play those games on the wii by using a GB,GBC and GBA emulator. Which definitely has some advantages and disadvantages like not being able to use your cartridges, but it's an option if you want to see those games in 480p on a tv

  • @commonsensei8719
    @commonsensei8719 6 лет назад

    OMG that Fzero GX footage looks so damn good still

  • @voltz15
    @voltz15 6 лет назад

    So who else is enjoying their OSSC?
    Btw, get your scanlines to work wherever possible. Low res on lcd's suck until people get the right idea how to do it.

  • @DarkOblivion4327
    @DarkOblivion4327 6 лет назад

    What TV did you guys use for the input lag test? I want to reference it on the display lag database and see if that's what's causing lag or if it is generally the adapter.

  • @puma0085
    @puma0085 6 лет назад

    Very nice Review. I also interested in getting the HDMI apdater but I am not sure if it worth it.I live in a Pal Region and Have a pal Gamecube. Most of th pal games are not able to do 480p. I wonder how well the 480i Content would look over hdmi.

  • @Tyler-Kearney
    @Tyler-Kearney 5 лет назад

    Something somewhat related since it's a similar time period console. Would you recommend trying to get component cables for a PS2? To my knowledge PS3 cables work on PS2.

  • @Daremo123
    @Daremo123 6 лет назад

    It's possible that the low latency version of the GBI wasn't working is because your display doesn't accept 240p over HDMI. It's not terribly uncommon for some screens to do 240p over component but not digital. Funny thing is my Sony does but still labels it as 480p over HDMI. We have an LG that does not accept any sort of 240p over a digital input.

  • @l4ndst4nder
    @l4ndst4nder 6 лет назад

    Are you using the GameCube interface to output 240p? If so, how are you upscaling with the plug n play?

  • @Katana2097
    @Katana2097 6 лет назад

    PAL consoles support RGB, but PAL games do not do 480p. Some games can do PAL60 which is 60hz mode like NTSC. Not all PAL regions have SCART as standard. For instance, here in New Zealand (which is a PAL region) SCART wasn't really a thing, although not impossible to find on consumer CRT TVs that were produced around 2000-2005.
    So we had all of the drawbacks of PAL 50hz and no RGB. New Zealand (possibly Australia too) had it worst of all regions.

  • @emmettturner9452
    @emmettturner9452 6 лет назад

    I firmly believe that the adapter should not be a rigid protrusion. At least the HDMI port should be attached by a cable so that the rigid end of your HDMI cable does not add to the awkward protrusion you already have.

  • @adamanteros1566
    @adamanteros1566 6 лет назад

    I don't know if you guys have done a video yet on upscaling but what upscale methods do you guys prefer. I have a 3-way and a 4-way composite to a av to hdmi upscaler for all my systems but not the best quality

    • @hard4games
      @hard4games  6 лет назад +2

      +Eros Adrenaline Right now we use the OSSC which is awesome. Accepts SCART, VGA, and Component. Does an amazing job upscaling as well.

  • @Vamptonius
    @Vamptonius 6 лет назад

    My N64 has always used composite WITH S-Video, so, 4 connections. You mention it not, only either/or. Is my combo weird?

  • @BigNateDoggOG
    @BigNateDoggOG 6 лет назад

    It's always nice to wake up to some Hard4Games :)

  • @love4music1992
    @love4music1992 6 лет назад

    Man I love your channel keep up the great work!

  • @robkearsy2995
    @robkearsy2995 3 года назад

    Yeah I might get a HDMI cable for The Gamecube since Component cables are hard to get a hold of because of the price.

  • @emmettturner9452
    @emmettturner9452 6 лет назад

    “Jaggies” aren’t from polygons you will see them at contrasting edges just as badly at these resolutions and anti-aliasing levels even if the system was pushing more polygons than an XBOX ONE X. They are an artifact of trying to render straight lines at different angles with square pixels. They are still there on even the most powerful hardware but they are especially apparent at low resolutions.

  • @edmaster93
    @edmaster93 6 лет назад

    Is there an options to able to run GameCube games in 60 fps, on a Wii for example in a LCD tv ?, I mean run a GameCube game like f zero or melee using a Wii and make it run to 60 fps with no blurry effect.

  • @Feelin_DanDy
    @Feelin_DanDy 6 лет назад +11

    $300 for a cable??? *jerk motion*
    I just got another original Wii, my old one died. I have Wii/Wii U component cables and the first thing I popped in was REmake, looks clean. Although I must say Xenoblade with component cables, while the character models in cutscenes look great, the UI, numbers on screen and words have this weird blur effect that's pretty jarring.

    • @AirshBornely
      @AirshBornely 6 лет назад

      Feelin' DanDy I found Xenoblade Chronicles to look better off a Wii U with HDMI. My Life in Gaming actually made a huge video about GameCube video quality and they showed how the GameCube-less Wii actually has a better video signal with Component cables. (Using a Homebrew app called Nintendont)

    • @jevansturner
      @jevansturner 6 лет назад

      Mine sold for bids on eBay for just $160 in September. Prices were already dropping after news of HDMI mod progress. I don't think people can get $300 for GC component cables any more.

    • @Feelin_DanDy
      @Feelin_DanDy 6 лет назад

      I also have a black Wii, that doesn't support GC, one of the newer models. I already tried Xenoblade on there with the component cables, same thing. You're saying I have to homebrew my black Wii???

    • @SwoleCalibur
      @SwoleCalibur 6 лет назад

      Feelin' DanDy It does support Gamecube, it's just locked out. If you hack it (easy to do) , you can play gamecube games. You do need the gamecube controller usb adapter, the wii classic controller or the wii U pro controller (yes, they work on the old wii) to play.

    • @meganutHUGE
      @meganutHUGE 6 лет назад

      guys just use dolphin emulator on pc. its free

  • @TheLuckyDingo
    @TheLuckyDingo 6 лет назад +4

    Holy crap, why are the component cables so expensive now?? I'm glad I bought them when I was a kid... I still have them too!

    • @VinchVolt
      @VinchVolt 6 лет назад +4

      Because there's so little of them that are actually available; at the time the component cables came out, less than 1% of all GameCube owners actually bought them because component-compatible TVs were that rare. It doesn't help that, as the video states, the cables use a proprietary digital-to-analog converter chip (since the cables were analog yet plugged into a digital audio/video port), meaning no other companies could manufacture their own off-brand versions. In fact, people are still trying to figure out how to reverse-engineer the damn chip.

    • @7531monkey
      @7531monkey 6 лет назад

      Got mine too, didnt know they were rare.

    • @tetsujin_144
      @tetsujin_144 6 лет назад

      The problem of "reverse-engineering the chip" is solved at this point, though, that's how the HDMI adapters and mods like GCDual work.
      But yeah the high price is all about scarcity combined with the fact that it's not a trivial thing to clone.

    • @FlyingV555
      @FlyingV555 5 лет назад

      DINGO! Cause people will buy anything

  • @Knightmessenger
    @Knightmessenger 6 лет назад

    2:49 what's wrong with Wii component? It's overexposed losing detail on Mario's glove.

  • @barrett5195
    @barrett5195 Год назад

    Can you use SVideo for streaming like how you can convert component to HDMI?

    • @hard4games
      @hard4games  Год назад

      Sure! I can't stop you. I'm not your real dad.

  • @segaboy9894
    @segaboy9894 6 лет назад

    Quick correction: Wii does not emulate Gamecube games. It is binary compatible so the games run natively on it. Additionally, the Gamecube Gameboy player is also not an emulator. It is real Gameboy Advance hardware that outputs via the Gamecube.

  • @cyristroy9795
    @cyristroy9795 6 лет назад

    One question ive always had, the gamecube component cables are insanely rare and expensive, why havent they ever been bootlegged? Are they hard to make or what? You see so many bootleg aftermarket cables made out there, but yet never bootleg "working" gamecube component cables? Just curious...

    • @jcreazy
      @jcreazy 6 лет назад

      Cyris Troy something about the chip used for video encryption. It hasn't been cracked

  • @TylerSteven9
    @TylerSteven9 6 лет назад

    Would've also liked to see a comparison using one of those $5 HDMI adapters for Wii.

  • @Paradoxriom
    @Paradoxriom 6 лет назад

    Great Video! I was really wondering how the hdmi adaptor would compare to component. However the gamecube actually does support rgb however only pal models do and pal models can't really use 480p without using ar discs to foce it and the wiis gamecube compatibilty isn't emulation its the native gcn gecko chip.

  • @emmastarr5242
    @emmastarr5242 6 лет назад +9

    "is a $100 alternative"
    * leaves video *

    • @hard4games
      @hard4games  6 лет назад +6

      +Emma Starr Check out the Wii component and S Video comparisons. Both reasonably inexpensive and a nice upgrade! :)

    • @northerntransplant6891
      @northerntransplant6891 6 лет назад

      Cheapo

    • @emmastarr5242
      @emmastarr5242 6 лет назад +1

      ^ Terrible insult maker

    • @TUnit959
      @TUnit959 6 лет назад

      Considering the prices of the official cables second hand, its hard to go wrong here. Only downside being that theres no analog version for PVM and OSSC owners.

    • @tetsujin_144
      @tetsujin_144 6 лет назад

      The "GCDual" mod gives the gamecube both an HDMI out and analog RGB/YPbPr (switchable between the modes via hardware or menu) analog output.
      Personally, the main reason I would want such a mod or adapter is to get 480p output from the system - which for me would mean either using a computer monitor (so, DVI, basically HDMI) or a TV (for which HDMI is still preferable probably) - I want the analog functions of the GCDual to get a slight upgrade when using my CRT, but for 480p mode I don't have a CRT solution (unless I got an OSSC, I think that plus a VGA monitor would have me in business...) So in a sense the analog output doesn't have that much value to me at this point, but I'd still want it.

  • @guitar_juuuuuunn
    @guitar_juuuuuunn 6 лет назад

    did all of the gameboy footage in this video was captured using regular GBI?

  • @125conman
    @125conman 5 лет назад

    Is their a reason to buy this instead of the 150$ EON that uses both digital and av output?

  • @Deltax5
    @Deltax5 6 лет назад

    SO this is version 3. I think im stuck using s-video with the framemister. Ohh well. I just wanted this for the gameboy player so meh. Now how does it compare with the gamecube hdmi mod with the ZeldaXPro's GameCube HDMI adapter.

  • @kirkd1502
    @kirkd1502 6 лет назад

    How do you purchase one of these adapters? The link provided goes to a vanilla web page and the purchase link on there goes to update videos. He mentions in the video filling out a "form", but I can't seem to locate it. Can you tell me how you got yours? Lol...nvmd...I found the form buried at the very bottom of the updates page. He should probably have that link go to a separate page.

    • @everythingpony
      @everythingpony 6 лет назад

      Kirk D did you get yours?

    • @kirkd1502
      @kirkd1502 6 лет назад

      Rainbow Dash I end up getting an EON for $135 since it came in 4 days vs waiting until the end of March for this one.

  • @TheTanglyHen1026
    @TheTanglyHen1026 6 лет назад

    preorderd a while ago, didnt ship but thank god because he made a slim version which we are all getting

  • @Trendsetta89
    @Trendsetta89 4 года назад

    So ideally which one has the best quality, thats the most reasonable price for using on the GameCube?

  • @Fattydeposit
    @Fattydeposit 6 лет назад

    PAL GameCubes natively output RGB - no need for component cables unless you're going to trying to force NTSC games at 480p

  • @MassMurderrer
    @MassMurderrer 6 лет назад +1

    Yea but the gameboy player for the snes was just a gameboy in a snes cartridge without the screen or buttons.

  • @natedogg5641
    @natedogg5641 6 лет назад

    I got a enKo RGB to HDMI upconverter for the wii. Wii component cables are much cheaper than the GC.

  • @tonk82
    @tonk82 6 лет назад

    8:40 Tha joke.... wow... even John seems dissapointed xD

  • @katiebaumann9357
    @katiebaumann9357 6 лет назад

    Is there anything I can do to enhance the graphics if my gamecube only has one port (analog port) in the back? I'm no techie...I just want better picture. Thanks!

    • @hard4games
      @hard4games  6 лет назад

      Your best option is s-video, unless you get it modded. S-video isnt the best, but its a lot better than composite.

    • @katiebaumann9357
      @katiebaumann9357 6 лет назад

      Hard4Games Ok, great. I’ll check that out. Thank you!

  • @Caruniom
    @Caruniom 6 лет назад

    Those jaggies on Doshin probably comes from interlacing (as PAL Gamecube games didn't have progressive scan).
    Either those jaggies come from that HDMI adapter or are caused by the capture card, as a lot of HD capture cards don't support low res interlaced input and just leave out each second line.

  • @AiwaLover
    @AiwaLover 4 года назад +1

    Componemt wins.
    Much more cleaner color and bright. 😍

  • @Farrell_Lombardi
    @Farrell_Lombardi 9 месяцев назад

    So you preffer HDMI.
    But what about play it on a CRT via S Video? Hdmi stills better? Composite better? 🤔

  • @fatenabu1
    @fatenabu1 6 лет назад

    so how it compared to emulating gamecube on a wii u which is hooked up via hdmi?

  • @theobserver4214
    @theobserver4214 6 лет назад

    For Smash I believe you forgot to disable deflicker, which removes the blur effect

  • @bobman11100
    @bobman11100 6 лет назад

    I think it's the best option out for me.
    I have no issues with it because I only play Pokemon games on my GameCube so if there was any input lag it wouldn't ruin the game.

  • @mosesh06
    @mosesh06 6 лет назад

    Btw I'm insane on the GC connoisseur scale. Just purchased Disney sports : basketball CiB for GC... 😔 No regrets yet..