I can imagine the engineers at Bluetti watching this video and taking notes. I hope they are watching and for all our sakes listen and implement his recommendations. This “kid” is a genius.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts! It's great to see passionate engineers continuously improving their products. Speaking of solar power systems, have you checked out the Segway Portable PowerStation Cube Series? It offers massive capacity, powerful output, and fast recharging. Plus, it's built tough with waterproof technology and comprehensive protections. Definitely worth considering for your outdoor adventures and home backup power needs!
I totally agree with you! It's great to see companies like Segway constantly innovating and providing reliable power solutions for outdoor enthusiasts like us. The Bluetti AC300 video review seems to have sparked some inspiration for Bluetti engineers, just like the Segway Portable PowerStation Cube Series. I hope they take note and continue to improve their products based on user feedback. Keep up the great work, Segway!
That Bluetti AC300 video was really impressive! Segway has also developed an amazing power station called the Portable PowerStation Cube Series. It has a massive 5kWh capacity, fast recharging, versatile sockets, waterproof technology, and comprehensive protections. I highly recommend checking it out for your outdoor adventures or home backup power needs. It's great to see companies like Bluetti and Segway pushing the boundaries of portable power systems.
They sell these in Australia which uses 240v standard. This is the first system I've seen that seems not only appropriate but really good. Thanks for the review.
I have to point out that people living in the country that have their own deep water wells usually require 240 VAC for the pumps. RVs may not require 240 V but homeowners often do. I really enjoy your videos so please keep up the good work.
@@farmerjhemp Most residential, non-commercial well pumps are around 1,000 watts and start up surge less than 3,000, so two of these using Bluetti 240v connector should work for most residential well pumps. As a home owner, confirm the HP (and constant draw and start up draw) of your pump before sizing your backup system and test after installation.
Excellent video and very explanatory. You sold me on this Bluetti AC300 unit! Our unit is on it’s way! I appreciate all your videos that I’ve seen. You’ve been a big help for me in understanding and clearing up my questions regarding various solar products and how to proceed with our solar projects. Thank you!
Hey Will! Excellent! You have thoroughly reviewed the Bluetti AC300 solar power generator. In my opinion, Bluetti must also supply larger battery modules including the B500(5000Wh), which gives portability and longer runtime when needed for work or RV trips/travel.
This is fantastic! I am doing a adventure van build next year and this is it! I have seen so many builds with wires all over the place and Battle Born batteries at 900.00 each! This is a game changer for van builds! Thank you for explaining everything in such detail.
People that buy Battle Borns have kink called the chocolate greenback. Its when you wipe your ass with $100 bills and flush them. You can have 2.5kwh in cool battery boxes by next week or you can do a little research and wait 2 months for for more than 14kwh adn Lego like assembly. The latter will cost you a couple hundred more once you buy a BMS, welding cable, pure copper lugs, hydraulic crimper, YR-1035+ and a load tester. At most you would be paying $2300 and thats if you get a 300A continuous BMS and insist on adding one of the most expensive shunt based monitor systems. If you need 15,000 watts in a van its because you're crypto mining and running two A/C units while teasing your hair for a 1983 Def Leppard concert.
That's great to hear! The Bluetti AC300 sounds like an excellent option for your adventure van build. However, I would also recommend checking out the Segway Portable PowerStation Cube Series. It offers a massive capacity of up to 5kWh, supports fast recharging, and has a durable and waterproof design. It could be a game changer for your van build too!
Hi Will. Love ur videos. Please put together a video for a complete "optimum" (not budget) bus / van conversion for an amateur builder. Right-sized for a/c, fridge, pumps, lights, efficient electric heater or heat pump recommendation, hot water heater, etc. Date is 2021 (and update each year) with the most recent tech / improvements. Solar, inverters, batteries, battery to battery charger, AC plug-in option, management, iPhone connectivity, maintenance, safety, fire-protection, etc. All of us amateurs need help building safe, reliable, right-sized systems for vans, schoolies, boats, etc.
We bought the ac300 and two b300 batteries. Got them during the January sale and saved $800. Very happy with these BLUETTI products. Thank you for all the information you’ve provided in this video.
I'm coming in a year after this video first posted, but I just have to tell you that it's a much better video than Bluetti has on their CS site. I bought my AC300, had a small problem, and couldn't find the resolution. I came here and found the fix. Thank you!
Great review, you have taught me a lot in such a short amount of time. Thank you for making the content. Could you possibly see how the AC 200 Max works with the B300 batteries and see if you have the same charging complications with the b230 batteries that you had in your ac 200 max review. Just getting into solar generators and just wounding how the ac 200max would work with the b300 batteries. I am looking at the ac 200 max for general home use as back up power supply with possible expansion in the future if it is needed. Thoughts? Also looking at the ecoflow pro vs max and waiting to see what your thoughts are when you get your hands on them. Thank you again for making great content. Best.
Good one on the input voltage; I have a 12 year old solar panel system and if I'm correct the voltage of that array is around 200+ volts, so I can't use it directly connected to the standard connectors of our roof panels.
I see that Bluetti now promotes the AC500 + B300S, could you review this system (if you can get a hold of it)? I just ordered since it looks like a great deal on Indiegogo. Cheers!
I'm sending mine back because their customer service stinks to high heaven. No one answers the phone, and the email response is terrible. 24 hours or more.
I don't like the Bluetooth and apps. That means someone in China, or a hacker could possibly turn it off remotely. I don't trust that and don't want to be held hostage. Call me crazy, but remember the pipeline. Remember FB just recently? Is there one out there without this unnecessary and risky junk? I want to keep it stupid simple. Maybe a dyi is the way I should go
I'll say it again - whoever the manufacturer is behind the Bluetti label is a high quality outfit. One of my large, expensive laptop battery packs is Bluetti, and 9 years old now!
Hi Will, I believe you are doing a great job and might be interested in helping with the following problem: After buying a Bluetti AC300 and B300 battery, taking it up to our RV and setting it up I discovered what seems to be a norm, there is a "floating ground". This is not explained in any of the documents from Bluetti. This means In other words, no ground. This is a problem for me because I have a good energy monitoring system installed in my RV that looks at voltage, amps, hertz, checks for wiring incorrectness and has surge protection. This system shuts down the trailer whenever things are not safe. I want to have shore power supply the Bluetti and have the Trailer plugged into the 30amp Bluetti AC outlet. As soon as I plug in the RV my energy monitoring equipment blocks the power from proceeding into the trailer. The error message is "Open Ground". I have tried bypassing the monitoring system and testing my outlets. They all are now "Open Ground". I do not consider this safe. Any ideas on how to proceed grounding my Bluetti? I have tried to email Bluetti, they don't seem to want to answer this question.
They make neutral-ground bonding plugs that plug into one of the receptacles for gas generators with a floating neutral. Maybe that would solve your problem.
Just purchased this AC300+2xB300 packs for my t1n Sprinter. What's the safest/quickest way to charge via the alternator? Something better than using the 12v-10amp?
I purchased the Bluetti 200Max a while ago along with one of their portable panel kits (200W). It's been good, but we were constantly having to charge it up with our generator as the panels were just too under powered to get the job done with any kind of heavy use. We'd just recently received our dozen CanadianSolar 445W Bifacial panels and are waiting on the EG4 5600EX inverters (backordered) so we decided to try hooking up 2 of the CS 445's to see how they'd do with it. Within seconds of turning it on, we were getting 750 watts of PV charge and had the battery charged to 100% in under an hour. We're going to put away those little foldable panels for good and enjoy some solar for the first time in a while.
Someone said on a previous video I seen that if a shadow passes in front of them panels they drop. And don't go back up unless you unplug them first. Which if true is really disappointing
@@Alberthoward3right9up I never had that issue, they would continue to charge just fine all day long, they're just not enough to charge the battery up very quickly. I would adjust them to directly face the sun as much as possible to improve performance, but didn't have any issues with clouds forcing me to unplug them. Hope this info helps.
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I think I would like to be able to use this with the high output alternator on my car as a source for charging. You can daisy chain alternators, so 400amp x 2,3, or 4 would be a hella fast to put juice back in the batteries. Then you could just swap the batteries out in your barn, or garage eliminating the need for grid connection. (Recharge on your way to work, if the trip is long enough... So many possibilities). 210 output would be sweet. Battery operated welder or kiln.
I have an AC200 and I'm disappointed to see essentially the same display on this new unit. I find the % of charge display on the AC200 seriously lacking without an amp hour or watt hour meter. My experience with this display is that the % charge drops much more quickly than I expect when discharging, and rises much more quickly in the final 20-30% of charging than during earlier stages. This makes me suspect that it is based on battery voltage instead of current or power used and replenished. I have no reliable way of knowing how the battery is performing, or how many watt hours remain available when the unit is partially discharged. I was surprised that you did not mention this in your review.
While in many respects the Bluetti Power Stations are well designed, there is a serious flaw that I have measured in my two Bluetti AC300/B300 units (and my AC200 model). My plan was to use the AC300/B300 units for backup power, a common usage. The problem is that these units, like my AC200, show a very high no-load power drain. When the AC300/B300 units are turned on and the AC mode switch is also turned on (as would be common for the use as backup power) there is a power drain of 60 watts with nothing plugged in or with devices plugged in but not turned on (based multiple tests). Over the course of a day about 60x24 or 1440 watt-hours will be used even if nothing is actually powered. This is almost half of the B300 battery capacity, a serious waste of capacity Based on similar tests my AC200 draws 35-40 watts of power with AC on and no load. (Also the battery current is 0.7 amps and the voltage is about 51 volts with AC on and no load). Others have reported very similar results for the AC200 and AC200P on the internet. I have reported these concerns to Bluetti over a month ago with no response so far. Also, because of this I left a 3-star review on the Bluetti web site. However, they would not post it, apparently allowing only 5-star reviews. The no-load power draw for these units is about four times as large as for my other power stations. There is also a smaller power draw observed by just turning the units on with no AC or DC on (0.1 amps for my AC200) or with DC only on (0.2 amps for my AC200), but the worst and unacceptable drain is the background no-load power usage with AC on.
I jumped the gun and got a AC 200 p. to run my camp. Without sun it will run lights and a fridge for about 26 hours not bad. With sun it is almost self sustaining. But wish I had waited for the expansion batteries I could leave the fridge runny during the week while away even with shady days it could keep things running. I might have to upgrade to this one but already have money sunk into this 200P.
It's hard to justify spending so much on any of the solar generators/systems, but they definitely are a wave of the future. If not for camping or excursions, camp life, or any of that, for emergency backup power for home users, business, or anything that uses electricity. I don't think it'll be as commonplace as flashlights, but the importance is there. In a real emergency, a small single burner (500-1800 watt if the system powered that high) for boiling water, and the rest is way easier. Rice and beans need that boiled water and water might need to be boiled for safety. A generator, some basic food stuffs, maybe a quality thermos (I'd love to get it one day, the 1 gallon Yeti container)... and clean water for food prep, sanitation, and drinking of course. I can't justify the price of these prebuilt units and I am not terribly competent for the electronic and electric engineering side of things. Though it seems more and more important to have some backup, as I'm sure an upcoming energy squeeze is going to be more widespread. Some locations in the states already have rolling brown outs or black outs. It's also quiet (compared to gas generators,) which means it won't disturb the neighbors, but also factors of safety. I'm sure I'll figure out what I want to do eventually... Your videos are a wealth of knowledge that I think will get me to that point. ☺ Thanks so much for providing the content you do!
Excellent video. Super helpful details. Have a few Q’s for you… 1. How & why do you use the DC outputs for charging cameras,etc.? And not the AC? 2. What type cable (or second inverter ?) do you need to use the DC out? 3. Can you demo how to charge the B300’s using solar panels? W/o using the AC300. Apologies in advance as I’m new to solar electric systems. Would love a video explaining all these different type cables. Mind bending.! Btw. Your an electrical genius! Or maybe just a solar savant. 😀
@@WillProwse I love this system, I'm actually runny a commercial food truck with this and 8 200watt solar panels. A hybrid system i built for my parents. I wish to get another b300 but they are so pricey for me right now.
I received my ac 300 and 2 b300 yesterday. First of all only 1 battery would power up . I used the 1 good battery and the ac300 to run a window unit 5000 btu for 3 hours and shut it down. The next day I had 1 battery at 56% and now the ac300 will not turn on and I have 4 fault codes .....😪
In addition to your concern about the display interface being the same (prior software lockups), I'd be also concerned about the display visibility. It does not have a good viewing angle and it also appears very reflective. It looks like it will wash out in outdoor usage (probably its most used application). Would have like to have seen a more visible display - seeing that has the main/primary controls like you mention.
Will, have you had any of these companies approach you about working for them on design of these solar generators? I think they would be smart if they did.
This is on my wish list. I have a Delta Pro which has been fickle with a small air conditioner and heater. I will return (thanks Costco) and get a. Bluetti. Thanks Will! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼💕.
Hey Will! Love your content man! Awesome information. My girlfriend and I are building a schoolie and I have been going back and forth on getting either a LV 2424 with batteries or just getting a Bluetti solar generator to be my power system. In your expert opinion, which would you recommend?
Hey, Will...what do you think of Hobotech's critique that the 24v dc plug on the AC300 will lure people into plugging in their 12v appliances and instantly fry those connected appliances? It seems like a major problem that Bluetti should correct. Thanks.
Bluetti sucks, I brought the AC300 and a B300 it worked fine for one week. I then got ac buss error message. I cant get a answer from the company or a response to my emails. The phone lines says message boxes are full and they cant even record a message.
Should I cancel my Bluetti EP500 Pro $3,799 order, that hasn't even come yet? I'm a novice, but wondering how the AC300 compares to the EP500 Pro? At first glance, the AC300 seems to be more expandable and perhaps more "manageable" with its "separate chunks" of less weight compared to the "All-In-One" EP500 Pro w/its 182 lbs. (am I wrong)? I really was NOT planning on moving a "Solar Generator" all over the place (don't know how weak the wheels of the EP500 Pro will be). But mainly, the idea is to be a backup to our current home, or I thought it might be okay to hoist it into an RV (if we got an RV again). Basically an alternative to a bigger Honda Generator). Plus also, we are thinking about moving out to property where it would be crucial in a power outage to be able to power a well pump; and at least the nice new French Door Bottom Freezer Refrigerator; and our separate Refrig. & Freezer that are both an Economy/Commercial grade in our garage (so whatever we get would have to power those 3 items at the very least). My charge methods were going to be plugging it in to have it at the ready to power those 2 Refrigerators and 1 Freezer, and I currently have 2 x Renogy 200W Eclipse Monocrystalline Solar Suitcases Solar Panels. Mmmmm any advice or recommendations for a newbie that's trying to prepare, would be greatly appreciated!!! :-)
You indicated that the 30 amp out let sholud be marked 25 amp.. IN the USA the NEC requires all outlets be loaded to no more that 80% of the rated capacity. So for this 30 amp outlet the max connected continuous load is 24 amps. This outlet is propperly sized amd marked. The same requirement applies to wires and overcurrent protection.
Thanks for the awesome review. If I was looking for a solar generator to use mainly as a backup generator for chest freezers, and the occasional road/camping trip (not in an RV), what would you recommend? Is this unit that much more worth it over the AC200P or 200max? Also considering the cost difference. Thanks
along with most the stuff you mentioned, i would also like them to have "stack ports" instead of, or in addition to, the cables. having a little port that opens up on the top and bottom of each unit, so that if you stack them, they can connect just via being stacked (and the cover being removed for the ports, of course). Great video as always Will :)
I agree that with such a nice tidy stacking unit, having big bulky cables sticking out from the side make it a bit of a packaging problem when trying to build this into a van build as I am interested in using it for. Im not sure I want to rely on your idea of interconnecting sockets when stacked. While really slick IF used that way I think it also limits options such as low profile horizontal arrangement. I would like to see 90 degree plugs on the cables for a neater installation either way.
with this you go into a route of propiatary and in a physical shape and size locked system with a short (or long caple run as shown in the wiring picture) you can be more versatile in placement of the inits in relation to each other but also in size or physical shape of future expantion modules if change is needet one batterie modul is very heva y and you will not only put it in place but also in the same move connect it electrical with a reliable connection for years? where do you want to place your stacking ports? on top or bottom? left or right? center? long or short sidepànels? and all have to work for a long time even in vibrationg and moving applikations like in RV and shifting motions with that heavy things while staying mechanical and electical sound all together all the time? srs but its a bad idea if you thing about it for longer
@@Total_Egal right, which is why i said one of the options would be to have those ports in addition to having the cables. that way if you desire, you can have a stack without all the wiring, or if needed, you can still connect your batteries with the cables.
I don't care for the 24v "cig" output. Why not a 12v? This is definitely the best "small" system I have seen and tops my list for the off grid system I am designing. It definitely needs the auto turn on design you mention.
With all the things that can be configured why didn't they include this 24v output. It could probably be something simple as a switch to change between 12v or 24v. I hope Will and Tom reach out to Bluetti to get this changed.
Have you had a chance to try the AC500 & B300S yet? I ordered one based on the hopes it's even better than this unit and got it for more or less the same price in indiegogo campaign. (Australia delivered) Interested to hear your thoughts.
those colosal companies did manage to go apples to apples for pros and cons.. i chose the delta 2 as small to mid size cause wanted to move it to off grid warehouse.. but i m curious to make a less mobile bluetti for solaring my house!!!! diy is an option but those things seem to last without screwdrive em at all!!!
All previous models have been designed to be portable. I think the AC300 is the first designed with non-portable use in mind. This is why the form factors are the way they are. It was nice that the battery expansion packs are compatible with the “portable” units, it is a bonus feature.
If you hook up the 200 max to charge from the B230 both units will charge with the more drained battery charging first. These units are so heavy they are not getting knocked over easily.
The problem always is, something is cheaped out to make it competitive cause most buy, and have to not having two pennies to rub together after paying the bills, the cheapest. DIY will remain by far the best solution for anyone REALLY needing such, ie, people who need economical return. These slightly crippled systems will always be great for those w $$$$ meaning they aren't looking for payback, just to make a statement, and those who have a need a self contained system that MUST be met TODAY, or just like boasting. I'm not sure even if a super pro w best of best components lets one escape DIY. Buying any system means you better hope that producer is still doing so in 10, more likely 20 yrs when you need replacements and their future equipment is backwards compatible to whatever you have still working to retain as much system investment as possible.
Will-has Bluetti updated the firmware yet as you suggested regarding adding a setting so the inverter can automatically come back on once discharged and recharged. This is a fairly big deal for me for the same reasons you stated.
@@garyo4456 This is much better than the Titan and also costs 1/3rd less than the Titan. Technologically, the Titan is a dinosaur now. It badly needs to be updated
The EcoFlow "generator" is stupid. These are supposed to be SOLAR GENERATORS. That said, a GOOD SOLAR Generator not only outputs a lot of power, but can also can INPUT a LOT of SOLAR Power to recharge its batteries. WHY does a unit like the ECOFLOW, output three times the power (@ 3600Watts) of what it INPUTS from the Sun (1200 Watts)? This is stupid. This means all things being equal it will deplete itself at three times the rate it can input. SO.....in a long time grid down, you will use gas generators often to charge the unit instead of the Sun, at least until you run out of gas. So if you can only input 1200W to recharge as you deplete at three times the rate, then why not just use a Gas Generator by itself and save yourself the expense of buying this thing?? I see it simply as an expensive glorified "battery bank". Try running a refrigerator, a freezer and a few other appliances continuously with an Ecoflow Delta Pro 3600 . You will be running your generator constantly to keep pace. Might as well just hook up the appliances directly to the gas generator and skip the expensive battery bank, because it will recharge the batteries too slowly to keep up. While the Bluetti is not perfect, it is getting better. 2400 W input is the best portable Generator out there. It is better than the Titan by 400 W input , and TWICE as good as the EcoFlow Delta Pro when looking at it in this light.
@@Archangel0804 Get something to eat Bud, you seem very hangry! Honestly, if you're looking for real backup power in a lengthy outage, a proper solar system with Lifepo batteries and a Growatt or similar inverter/charger system will far outperform any of these "solar generators". You'll just have to pay more money.
@@billpemberton3982 I'm looking for portability now because I have two properties. I want something I could use at my primary residence and at my remote property in my fifth wheeler I will be building a homestead property in the next 2 yrs on the remote property (I am a builder) When I go to a whole house system the plan at this moment is to go with a Sol Ark 12 Kw with Emp hardening. Undecided on Battery bank at this point but will consider any LiFePo4 bank that gives good bang for the buck. I should add I already have 10,000 Kw of panels...some at both places. Eventually they will ALL be at the homestead on groundmounts
How user repair friendly is it? When a component fails, can it be purchased and replaced by the owner or does it become a giant cinder block? Any right to repair issues with Bluetti? Do they have a parts department? These are things I never hear reviewers talk about....
These are not user friendly for repair. I have a few past videos that talk about this. If it breaks, it would be very tough to swap out boards. Most boards have multiple circuits unlike my all in one units. That is a huge downside of these plug n play units.
Well, that settled it then. Ok Will, I'm back to doing the home build. Now...I have to figure out which one of the many examples you have so eloquently designed to build for my needs. Thank you..
@@WillProwse Bluetti sent out an update on the EP500/Pro yesterday to backers that they are sorry about the delays, and they are in US warehouses now. AND they extended the warranty to this group of buyers from standard 2 yrs then 3yrs, now FIVE years. Sounds like they are trying to keep their customers satisfied. Hope they make it and provide good long term support for these units. Waiting for your tests on the EP series. Has it been surpassed by the AC 300 series with the larger 3000w inverters? I think the EPs are not currently available except maybe still on Indiegogo. At super-early bird prices and even on Indiegogo, they seem competitive with, if different than, the AC 300. But they are late to delivery after some board issue was found and already replaced. I know you will compare them eventually. 🙂
I’ve learned so much from all your videos. One thing I wonder has been can u add a wind turbine? With any of the builds u have done . Also can a wind turbine be hooked up to the ac300 or just solar ? Thank you for making informative content.
Hey bro could you do a video with the most cost efficient solar setup both off grid and grid tie system you can purchase from Alibaba, I see so many options but don't have a clue which one to choose.
Can it be used as a passive battery so if it is plugged to the wall and if my computer was plugged into it and the power went out would be my computer be okay?
Will, I have enjoyed your reviews. I wonder if you could arrange to do a review of the Clean Green Solar Machine. I can find no reviews on it and the only info consists of two informercials on YT. It looks like a real contender for a small home or remote application or as a back up. I figure you would do an excellent review on it.
So, big question, in the event of an EMP or solar flare, these would likely be rendered useless. Any suggestions other than storing in a faraday cage on how to protect against such an event? Thanks!
Will, I submitted this comment earlier but it appears to have been deleted by someone… I don’t know why. I have been seriously considering buying this unit but am extremely hesitant for a few reasons: #1 Bluetti is competing with itself and making its own products quickly obsolete. I bought an AC200P and within a few short months, two new models came out that were far superior. Why should I buy the AC300 when with this track record Bluetti will come out with the AC400 probably by early 2022?? #2 These huge cables on the side of the unit are ridiculous. The AC300 is a premium priced solar generator, so why have these ungainly cables protruding. How am I supposed to tuck this away in a neat unobtrusive location?? Does Titan have patents that keep Bluetti from integrating the connection between batteries within the housing? #3… the screen. I hate the screen on the AC200P and the follow on models. It has about a 15 degree viewing angle. If you place it on the floor, you have to get down on hands and knees to be able to read the screen, not to mention it is totally useless in direct sunlight. Why would I want to buy an AC300 when I already have an AC200P? …because within just a few days of owning the AC200P I realized the battery capacity is not adequate. 3-4kh should be the minimum. With just a modest load on the AC200P I find myself having to plug it into the wall to keep enough charge overnight until the sun comes up the next day. Why not buy an expansion battery? Because I’m using this for pass through charging and everything I’ve been able to discern is that solar charging would not be able to keep up with a 500w or more load, even with the expansion battery. I’ve read that the expansion battery can only pass a maximum of 500w charge to the main unit. Looks like I’m going to wait for the AC400… It should be here soon.
Hi will, I am blind. I would love to be able to use this because it sounds like it would be a good device for me. I cannot see the screen obviously but I could use the iPhone Buetti app if it works with voiceover on the iPhone. Would you be willing to try this out? You would just open the Bluetti app on the iPhone then tell Siri to open voiceover. You can Move your finger around the screen or move the finger repeatedly from left to right and it would speak. You could also do a one finger double tap on a button and if the items speak when you move your finger around the screen then it may be accessible. I thamnk you very much in advance for trying this out. I did contact Bluetti about this matter and the person said that they would send my request to tech support but as. Of now I haven’t received a response.
My wife and I are moving into a full size school bus and want sufficient power. We’ve watched almost all of your cast because we believe you are one of the smartest young men we’ve ever come across. We want to know what plug and play system would be best for us considering I’d burn the bus down trying to hook up the stuff you do. 1. Small occasional welder 110 V 2. Washer, dryer 110v 3. Mini split A/c single with heat… most time using diesel heater or wood stove during the day. Night time space heater or mini split ???? 4. Trying for RV fridge 12v / propane. 5. All LED LIGHTS 6. Possible hot plate type stove!!! 7. Typical med size tv 8. Toaster oven / microwave / toaster / blender.
@@fightintheshade I’m hoping 12v trucker refrigerator, LED lighting, induction cook top, medium tv, microwave, mini split ac. Plus small charging ports for phones and such without worrying about power interruption.
I think the 30 amp plug can only do 25~ sustained amps because that was the intention. Your not supposed to run more than 80% of a wire/plugs rated capacity continuously. That’s why when your charging a EV on a 40 amp circuit you can only pull 32 amps sustained. It makes sense that the plug can handle a bit more for the surge power.
What type of household electrical system? To make some sense: we live in a 1920's barn converted into a simple home in the 60's (lower floor only; 2nd floor and 1/2 hay loft are used as storage only). The electric wiring is the old, grey, covered wiring. All is grand-fathered in. ... The electrical panel was replaced by in 2019. I want a solar generator to tap into the 30 cft older refrigerator; the older 7 cft chest freezer; and a new 3.5 cft chest freezer; plus recharging as to USB, power tools, weedeater, Yetti 1000, Shumacher smart battery, etc. Will something like the AC300.B300 blow out the electrical system from a much earlier era? * * The appliances are in different rooms and would be plugged into separately -- to rebuild the cold and frost at a certain point during power outages. We've had 2 power outages (1970's - 14 days; 2019 - 11 days; and mini outages of appx 2 or so days, now and then).
As I am sitting here in a local blackout. Message saying that it will back on in two hours. However I have a system Will had a video about. So lights are on and I'm charging my phone. !:- )
@@robertlloyd2436 I built a system started from the milk crate video Will shared that I expanded on. I have 200 watts of solar panels and my apartment probably won't let me have more panels. !:- ) It is a beginner system but it passed the test today.
Bluetti are using LiFePO4 batteries for all newer products, these are heavier and store less energy, but much more safer and long-lasting ( 2500 cycles, year with 8% discharge etc ). EcoFlow are using both LFP and LiPo / NCM . I wouldn't want big LiPo in my home.
11:00 Main issue: need 12V 30A DC power out (eg Anderson power pole) to run security equipment (PoE routers, IP cameras, misc equipment for a DC powered van 🚐 or cabin 🛖)
the RV cable set comes with a xt90 to anderson cable. a lot of routers run on 24V so it's nice that it can supply that natively. most other PoE is 48 volts so you'll need a PoE switch or midspan doodad to get PoE.
"30Amps" - maybe there's a heap of capacitors on the output & it could do a 30A peak, by stating that - maybe it would help to put in the right fuse on that link & wouldnt trip out if there was a peak surge in power
Its actually a naming convention for the receptacles. For example that is a 30A receptacle type which accepts a 30A plug. Your standard AC plug is rated only to 20A, or 15A on some circuits depending on wire thickness and plug.
I just bit the bullet on this set up with the 350w PV. I cannot find answer to this question: Can it be charge with a dc/dc controller (for direct alternator to device)-not just a plug for the ‘cigarette lighter’ port?
I wish he would evaluate the no load power condition for each output circuit. If you have no charging for a week, how much power is lost just because the outputs are enabled?
I can imagine the engineers at Bluetti watching this video and taking notes. I hope they are watching and for all our sakes listen and implement his recommendations. This “kid” is a genius.
If bluetti's taking notes, then l'm not buying cause they don't have it together.
@@reccocon3442 You're delusional. Many a well established company still watches this "kid".
Thank you for sharing your thoughts! It's great to see passionate engineers continuously improving their products. Speaking of solar power systems, have you checked out the Segway Portable PowerStation Cube Series? It offers massive capacity, powerful output, and fast recharging. Plus, it's built tough with waterproof technology and comprehensive protections. Definitely worth considering for your outdoor adventures and home backup power needs!
I totally agree with you! It's great to see companies like Segway constantly innovating and providing reliable power solutions for outdoor enthusiasts like us. The Bluetti AC300 video review seems to have sparked some inspiration for Bluetti engineers, just like the Segway Portable PowerStation Cube Series. I hope they take note and continue to improve their products based on user feedback. Keep up the great work, Segway!
That Bluetti AC300 video was really impressive! Segway has also developed an amazing power station called the Portable PowerStation Cube Series. It has a massive 5kWh capacity, fast recharging, versatile sockets, waterproof technology, and comprehensive protections. I highly recommend checking it out for your outdoor adventures or home backup power needs. It's great to see companies like Bluetti and Segway pushing the boundaries of portable power systems.
I literally have no idea what you’re talking about but I keep watching 🙃🙃
Me neither it would be great if they spoke English
😂😂😂😂😂me too cause one day I’ll get it 🤷🏾♀️
Same here hahahahaha 😆
Me too but he’s such a nice guy...
Same here ☺️☺️☺️☺️ can't understand his English..... I know he speaks English but I don't understand lol
They sell these in Australia which uses 240v standard.
This is the first system I've seen that seems not only appropriate but really good.
Thanks for the review.
I have to point out that people living in the country that have their own deep water wells usually require 240 VAC for the pumps. RVs may not require 240 V but homeowners often do. I really enjoy your videos so please keep up the good work.
I think most well pumps would require more surge wattage than this thing will put out.
@@farmerjhemp it’s an ammo can power bank
@@farmerjhemp Most residential, non-commercial well pumps are around 1,000 watts and start up surge less than 3,000, so two of these using Bluetti 240v connector should work for most residential well pumps. As a home owner, confirm the HP (and constant draw and start up draw) of your pump before sizing your backup system and test after installation.
@@MrChadx1 but 2 of this system is pretty expensive....for a generator...
@@angelsuniverse6021 Indeed they are. But that wasn't the subject. We were discussing the surge wattage of well pumps.
I love your reviews. I know I can always trust you to test equipment fairly and report honestly. That cannot be said for other people. Thanks!
having you have such a good opinion of this really made this sale for me. Thanks for your brutal honesty on reviews. Makes you quite trustable
Excellent video and very explanatory.
You sold me on this Bluetti AC300 unit!
Our unit is on it’s way!
I appreciate all your videos that I’ve seen.
You’ve been a big help for me in understanding and clearing up my questions regarding various solar products and how to proceed with our solar projects. Thank you!
I wish I knew if there is anything to worry about from a safety standpoint. I'd be afraid of destroying these things
What would be some good recommendations for rigid solar panels instead of the Bluetti ones?
That was one of the most concise and comprehensive reviews I've ever watched man.
Hey Will! Excellent! You have thoroughly reviewed the Bluetti AC300 solar power generator. In my opinion, Bluetti must also supply larger battery modules including the B500(5000Wh), which gives portability and longer runtime when needed for work or RV trips/travel.
This is fantastic! I am doing a adventure van build next year and this is it! I have seen so many builds with wires all over the place and Battle Born batteries at 900.00 each! This is a game changer for van builds! Thank you for explaining everything in such detail.
Exactly. It never made sense to me … and use up a wall on van plus all the cabling etc ….
People that buy Battle Borns have kink called the chocolate greenback. Its when you wipe your ass with $100 bills and flush them.
You can have 2.5kwh in cool battery boxes by next week or you can do a little research and wait 2 months for for more than 14kwh adn Lego like assembly. The latter will cost you a couple hundred more once you buy a BMS, welding cable, pure copper lugs, hydraulic crimper, YR-1035+ and a load tester. At most you would be paying $2300 and thats if you get a 300A continuous BMS and insist on adding one of the most expensive shunt based monitor systems. If you need 15,000 watts in a van its because you're crypto mining and running two A/C units while teasing your hair for a 1983 Def Leppard concert.
@@ericklein5097 lol 😂
That's great to hear! The Bluetti AC300 sounds like an excellent option for your adventure van build. However, I would also recommend checking out the Segway Portable PowerStation Cube Series. It offers a massive capacity of up to 5kWh, supports fast recharging, and has a durable and waterproof design. It could be a game changer for your van build too!
Hi Will. Love ur videos. Please put together a video for a complete "optimum" (not budget) bus / van conversion for an amateur builder. Right-sized for a/c, fridge, pumps, lights, efficient electric heater or heat pump recommendation, hot water heater, etc. Date is 2021 (and update each year) with the most recent tech / improvements. Solar, inverters, batteries, battery to battery charger, AC plug-in option, management, iPhone connectivity, maintenance, safety, fire-protection, etc. All of us amateurs need help building safe, reliable, right-sized systems for vans, schoolies, boats, etc.
Regarding the design, YES, compared to the other models they feel and look cheap, these AC300 models appear well made and well though out.
We bought the ac300 and two b300 batteries. Got them during the January sale and saved $800. Very happy with these BLUETTI products.
Thank you for all the information you’ve provided in this video.
I'm coming in a year after this video first posted, but I just have to tell you that it's a much better video than Bluetti has on their CS site. I bought my AC300, had a small problem, and couldn't find the resolution. I came here and found the fix. Thank you!
I like the versatility. Could have a few of these in a camper van charging off solar.
Great review, you have taught me a lot in such a short amount of time. Thank you for making the content. Could you possibly see how the AC 200 Max works with the B300 batteries and see if you have the same charging complications with the b230 batteries that you had in your ac 200 max review. Just getting into solar generators and just wounding how the ac 200max would work with the b300 batteries. I am looking at the ac 200 max for general home use as back up power supply with possible expansion in the future if it is needed. Thoughts? Also looking at the ecoflow pro vs max and waiting to see what your thoughts are when you get your hands on them. Thank you again for making great content. Best.
Insane, I just got the eb120....this is way out of my league. Great video
Good one on the input voltage; I have a 12 year old solar panel system and if I'm correct the voltage of that array is around 200+ volts, so I can't use it directly connected to the standard connectors of our roof panels.
I see that Bluetti now promotes the AC500 + B300S, could you review this system (if you can get a hold of it)? I just ordered since it looks like a great deal on Indiegogo. Cheers!
Can’t wait to see your review on the new AC500
I'm sending mine back because their customer service stinks to high heaven. No one answers the phone, and the email response is terrible. 24 hours or more.
Is this still a problem? 12 months afterwards?
Yes I bought 2 AC300 and2 B300 can’t wait to start the beast good video thanks
I don't like the Bluetooth and apps. That means someone in China, or a hacker could possibly turn it off remotely. I don't trust that and don't want to be held hostage. Call me crazy, but remember the pipeline. Remember FB just recently? Is there one out there without this unnecessary and risky junk? I want to keep it stupid simple. Maybe a dyi is the way I should go
I'll say it again - whoever the manufacturer is behind the Bluetti label is a high quality outfit. One of my large, expensive laptop battery packs is Bluetti, and 9 years old now!
Hi Will, I believe you are doing a great job and might be interested in helping with the following problem: After buying a Bluetti AC300 and B300 battery, taking it up to our RV and setting it up I discovered what seems to be a norm, there is a "floating ground". This is not explained in any of the documents from Bluetti. This means In other words, no ground. This is a problem for me because I have a good energy monitoring system installed in my RV that looks at voltage, amps, hertz, checks for wiring incorrectness and has surge protection. This system shuts down the trailer whenever things are not safe. I want to have shore power supply the Bluetti and have the Trailer plugged into the 30amp Bluetti AC outlet. As soon as I plug in the RV my energy monitoring equipment blocks the power from proceeding into the trailer. The error message is "Open Ground". I have tried bypassing the monitoring system and testing my outlets. They all are now "Open Ground". I do not consider this safe. Any ideas on how to proceed grounding my Bluetti? I have tried to email Bluetti, they don't seem to want to answer this question.
They make neutral-ground bonding plugs that plug into one of the receptacles for gas generators with a floating neutral. Maybe that would solve your problem.
May be you can do a video on best way to charge EV with a portable battery, think that be interesting
Just purchased this AC300+2xB300 packs for my t1n Sprinter. What's the safest/quickest way to charge via the alternator? Something better than using the 12v-10amp?
I'm impressed, and good review. Looks like a capable well built unit, with good expansion capabilities, and you hit all of the salient points.
Except the capacity test. Will Always does a capacity test, err well not this time though.
I purchased the Bluetti 200Max a while ago along with one of their portable panel kits (200W). It's been good, but we were constantly having to charge it up with our generator as the panels were just too under powered to get the job done with any kind of heavy use. We'd just recently received our dozen CanadianSolar 445W Bifacial panels and are waiting on the EG4 5600EX inverters (backordered) so we decided to try hooking up 2 of the CS 445's to see how they'd do with it. Within seconds of turning it on, we were getting 750 watts of PV charge and had the battery charged to 100% in under an hour. We're going to put away those little foldable panels for good and enjoy some solar for the first time in a while.
Someone said on a previous video I seen that if a shadow passes in front of them panels they drop. And don't go back up unless you unplug them first. Which if true is really disappointing
@@Alberthoward3right9up I never had that issue, they would continue to charge just fine all day long, they're just not enough to charge the battery up very quickly. I would adjust them to directly face the sun as much as possible to improve performance, but didn't have any issues with clouds forcing me to unplug them. Hope this info helps.
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I think I would like to be able to use this with the high output alternator on my car as a source for charging. You can daisy chain alternators, so 400amp x 2,3, or 4 would be a hella fast to put juice back in the batteries. Then you could just swap the batteries out in your barn, or garage eliminating the need for grid connection. (Recharge on your way to work, if the trip is long enough... So many possibilities). 210 output would be sweet. Battery operated welder or kiln.
I heard, that if you plug in, say a 300w inverter, into car DC port, and then use the AC plug outlet, you are now charging with AC on the go
This model looks like my next system. Thank you 😊
I have an AC200 and I'm disappointed to see essentially the same display on this new unit. I find the % of charge display on the AC200 seriously lacking without an amp hour or watt hour meter. My experience with this display is that the % charge drops much more quickly than I expect when discharging, and rises much more quickly in the final 20-30% of charging than during earlier stages. This makes me suspect that it is based on battery voltage instead of current or power used and replenished. I have no reliable way of knowing how the battery is performing, or how many watt hours remain available when the unit is partially discharged. I was surprised that you did not mention this in your review.
Sounds like Bluetti is really taking the lead in serious solar systems.
While in many respects the Bluetti Power Stations are well designed, there is a serious flaw that I have measured in my two Bluetti AC300/B300 units (and my AC200 model). My plan was to use the AC300/B300 units for backup power, a common usage. The problem is that these units, like my AC200, show a very high no-load power drain. When the AC300/B300 units are turned on and the AC mode switch is also turned on (as would be common for the use as backup power) there is a power drain of 60 watts with nothing plugged in or with devices plugged in but not turned on (based multiple tests). Over the course of a day about 60x24 or 1440 watt-hours will be used even if nothing is actually powered. This is almost half of the B300 battery capacity, a serious waste of capacity Based on similar tests my AC200 draws 35-40 watts of power with AC on and no load. (Also the battery current is 0.7 amps and the voltage is about 51 volts with AC on and no load). Others have reported very similar results for the AC200 and AC200P on the internet. I have reported these concerns to Bluetti over a month ago with no response so far. Also, because of this I left a 3-star review on the Bluetti web site. However, they would not post it, apparently allowing only 5-star reviews. The no-load power draw for these units is about four times as large as for my other power stations. There is also a smaller power draw observed by just turning the units on with no AC or DC on (0.1 amps for my AC200) or with DC only on (0.2 amps for my AC200), but the worst and unacceptable drain is the background no-load power usage with AC on.
How did you test this? You found a total of 60 watts drainage across all of the receptacle outlets with your meter?
Experienced similar discharging when AC is left on & no other loads. Dead in 2 days w/1 battery. A bit longer w/2 batteries.
I jumped the gun and got a AC 200 p. to run my camp. Without sun it will run lights and a fridge for about 26 hours not bad. With sun it is almost self sustaining. But wish I had waited for the expansion batteries I could leave the fridge runny during the week while away even with shady days it could keep things running. I might have to upgrade to this one but already have money sunk into this 200P.
It's hard to justify spending so much on any of the solar generators/systems, but they definitely are a wave of the future. If not for camping or excursions, camp life, or any of that, for emergency backup power for home users, business, or anything that uses electricity. I don't think it'll be as commonplace as flashlights, but the importance is there. In a real emergency, a small single burner (500-1800 watt if the system powered that high) for boiling water, and the rest is way easier. Rice and beans need that boiled water and water might need to be boiled for safety. A generator, some basic food stuffs, maybe a quality thermos (I'd love to get it one day, the 1 gallon Yeti container)... and clean water for food prep, sanitation, and drinking of course.
I can't justify the price of these prebuilt units and I am not terribly competent for the electronic and electric engineering side of things. Though it seems more and more important to have some backup, as I'm sure an upcoming energy squeeze is going to be more widespread. Some locations in the states already have rolling brown outs or black outs. It's also quiet (compared to gas generators,) which means it won't disturb the neighbors, but also factors of safety. I'm sure I'll figure out what I want to do eventually... Your videos are a wealth of knowledge that I think will get me to that point. ☺
Thanks so much for providing the content you do!
What are your thoughts now? I'm kinda in the same boat. Gas prices keep climbing. I keep coming back to these as a alternative to gas
Excellent video. Super helpful details. Have a few Q’s for you…
1. How & why do you use the DC outputs for charging cameras,etc.? And not the AC?
2. What type cable (or second inverter ?) do you need to use the DC out?
3. Can you demo how to charge the B300’s using solar panels? W/o using the AC300.
Apologies in advance as I’m new to solar electric systems. Would love a video explaining all these different type cables. Mind bending.! Btw. Your an electrical genius! Or maybe just a solar savant. 😀
Can you use the solar input on the battery modules at the same time as solar input on the AC300?
I would imagine so but I did not test that
@@WillProwse I love this system, I'm actually runny a commercial food truck with this and 8 200watt solar panels. A hybrid system i built for my parents. I wish to get another b300 but they are so pricey for me right now.
I received my ac 300 and 2 b300 yesterday. First of all only 1 battery would power up . I used the 1 good battery and the ac300 to run a window unit 5000 btu for 3 hours and shut it down. The next day I had 1 battery at 56% and now the ac300 will not turn on and I have 4 fault codes .....😪
Your reviews are epic, thank you.
You have grown this channel very good
Very knowledgeable and well presented review. First video I've seen, new subscriber now!
In addition to your concern about the display interface being the same (prior software lockups), I'd be also concerned about the display visibility. It does not have a good viewing angle and it also appears very reflective. It looks like it will wash out in outdoor usage (probably its most used application). Would have like to have seen a more visible display - seeing that has the main/primary controls like you mention.
Will, have you had any of these companies approach you about working for them on design of these solar generators? I think they would be smart if they did.
This is on my wish list. I have a Delta Pro which has been fickle with a small air conditioner and heater. I will return (thanks Costco) and get a. Bluetti. Thanks Will! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼💕.
What's the total running watts for both as well as surge watts? Sounds like you might be maxing out the unit. Might consider the extra battery.
800 watts on the heater, 425 watts on the a/c. Ran on separate DP units…
I think you should design and input everything you want and think a solar power system could and should have and start the fund raising.
Hey Will! Love your content man! Awesome information. My girlfriend and I are building a schoolie and I have been going back and forth on getting either a LV 2424 with batteries or just getting a Bluetti solar generator to be my power system. In your expert opinion, which would you recommend?
Yes
The “new guy” that they got is you, Will!
Hey, Will...what do you think of Hobotech's critique that the 24v dc plug on the AC300 will lure people into plugging in their 12v appliances and instantly fry those connected appliances? It seems like a major problem that Bluetti should correct. Thanks.
Bluetti has added a embossed/print warning under the receptacle.
Bluetti sucks, I brought the AC300 and a B300 it worked fine for one week. I then got ac buss error message. I cant get a answer from the company or a response to my emails. The phone lines says message boxes are full and they cant even record a message.
Should I cancel my Bluetti EP500 Pro $3,799 order, that hasn't even come yet? I'm a novice, but wondering how the AC300 compares to the EP500 Pro? At first glance, the AC300 seems to be more expandable and perhaps more "manageable" with its "separate chunks" of less weight compared to the "All-In-One" EP500 Pro w/its 182 lbs. (am I wrong)? I really was NOT planning on moving a "Solar Generator" all over the place (don't know how weak the wheels of the EP500 Pro will be). But mainly, the idea is to be a backup to our current home, or I thought it might be okay to hoist it into an RV (if we got an RV again). Basically an alternative to a bigger Honda Generator). Plus also, we are thinking about moving out to property where it would be crucial in a power outage to be able to power a well pump; and at least the nice new French Door Bottom Freezer Refrigerator; and our separate Refrig. & Freezer that are both an Economy/Commercial grade in our garage (so whatever we get would have to power those 3 items at the very least). My charge methods were going to be plugging it in to have it at the ready to power those 2 Refrigerators and 1 Freezer, and I currently have 2 x Renogy 200W Eclipse Monocrystalline Solar Suitcases Solar Panels. Mmmmm any advice or recommendations for a newbie that's trying to prepare, would be greatly appreciated!!! :-)
You indicated that the 30 amp out let sholud be marked 25 amp.. IN the USA the NEC requires all outlets be loaded to no more that 80% of the rated capacity. So for this 30 amp outlet the max connected continuous load is 24 amps. This outlet is propperly sized amd marked. The same requirement applies to wires and overcurrent protection.
Thanks for the awesome review. If I was looking for a solar generator to use mainly as a backup generator for chest freezers, and the occasional road/camping trip (not in an RV), what would you recommend? Is this unit that much more worth it over the AC200P or 200max? Also considering the cost difference. Thanks
Excellent speaker. He annunciates every word clearly, and this I certainly respect. Thank you.
Will you make a video on how to alternator charge with this unit or just alternator charging in general?
along with most the stuff you mentioned, i would also like them to have "stack ports" instead of, or in addition to, the cables. having a little port that opens up on the top and bottom of each unit, so that if you stack them, they can connect just via being stacked (and the cover being removed for the ports, of course). Great video as always Will :)
I agree that with such a nice tidy stacking unit, having big bulky cables sticking out from the side make it a bit of a packaging problem when trying to build this into a van build as I am interested in using it for. Im not sure I want to rely on your idea of interconnecting sockets when stacked. While really slick IF used that way I think it also limits options such as low profile horizontal arrangement. I would like to see 90 degree plugs on the cables for a neater installation either way.
with this you go into a route of propiatary and in a physical shape and size locked system with a short (or long caple run as shown in the wiring picture) you can be more versatile in placement of the inits in relation to each other but also in size or physical shape of future expantion modules if change is needet
one batterie modul is very heva y and you will not only put it in place but also in the same move connect it electrical with a reliable connection for years?
where do you want to place your stacking ports? on top or bottom? left or right? center? long or short sidepànels? and all have to work for a long time even in vibrationg and moving applikations like in RV and shifting motions with that heavy things while staying mechanical and electical sound all together all the time?
srs but its a bad idea if you thing about it for longer
@@Total_Egal right, which is why i said one of the options would be to have those ports in addition to having the cables. that way if you desire, you can have a stack without all the wiring, or if needed, you can still connect your batteries with the cables.
Would look clean in cabinet 🗄️ so you wouldn't see the cables. But it would be super clean like you said.
I don't care for the 24v "cig" output. Why not a 12v?
This is definitely the best "small" system I have seen and tops my list for the off grid system I am designing. It definitely needs the auto turn on design you mention.
With all the things that can be configured why didn't they include this 24v output. It could probably be something simple as a switch to change between 12v or 24v. I hope Will and Tom reach out to Bluetti to get this changed.
I think there is both one is 12v and the other is 24v.
Have you had a chance to try the AC500 & B300S yet? I ordered one based on the hopes it's even better than this unit and got it for more or less the same price in indiegogo campaign. (Australia delivered) Interested to hear your thoughts.
Yeah I am looking at any findings on the new model would be great.
those colosal companies did manage to go apples to apples for pros and cons.. i chose the delta 2 as small to mid size cause wanted to move it to off grid warehouse.. but i m curious to make a less mobile bluetti for solaring my house!!!! diy is an option but those things seem to last without screwdrive em at all!!!
I am learning so much from you, Will. I can't thank you enough. Just know that I am grateful that you are sharing your knowledge with us.
All previous models have been designed to be portable. I think the AC300 is the first designed with non-portable use in mind. This is why the form factors are the way they are. It was nice that the battery expansion packs are compatible with the “portable” units, it is a bonus feature.
I just got one of these setups (1X AC300, 2X B300 Batteries.
I wish they made longer cables.
If you hook up the 200 max to charge from the B230 both units will charge with the more drained battery charging first.
These units are so heavy they are not getting knocked over easily.
The problem always is, something is cheaped out to make it competitive cause most buy, and have to not having two pennies to rub together after paying the bills, the cheapest.
DIY will remain by far the best solution for anyone REALLY needing such, ie, people who need economical return.
These slightly crippled systems will always be great for those w $$$$ meaning they aren't looking for payback, just to make a statement, and those who have a need a self contained system that MUST be met TODAY, or just like boasting.
I'm not sure even if a super pro w best of best components lets one escape DIY. Buying any system means you better hope that producer is still doing so in 10, more likely 20 yrs when you need replacements and their future equipment is backwards compatible to whatever you have still working to retain as much system investment as possible.
Will-has Bluetti updated the firmware yet as you suggested regarding adding a setting so the inverter can automatically come back on once discharged and recharged. This is a fairly big deal for me for the same reasons you stated.
So Will, this or the EcoFlow DELTA Pro? You haven't always been so positive about Bluetti.
Or…why not the Titan?
@@garyo4456 This is much better than the Titan and also costs 1/3rd less than the Titan. Technologically, the Titan is a dinosaur now. It badly needs to be updated
The EcoFlow "generator" is stupid. These are supposed to be SOLAR GENERATORS.
That said, a GOOD SOLAR Generator not only outputs a lot of power, but can also can INPUT a LOT of SOLAR Power to recharge its batteries.
WHY does a unit like the ECOFLOW, output three times the power (@ 3600Watts) of what it INPUTS from the Sun (1200 Watts)? This is stupid. This means all things being equal it will deplete itself at three times the rate it can input.
SO.....in a long time grid down, you will use gas generators often to charge the unit instead of the Sun, at least until you run out of gas. So if you can only input 1200W to recharge as you deplete at three times the rate, then why not just use a Gas Generator by itself and save yourself the expense of buying this thing?? I see it simply as an expensive glorified "battery bank". Try running a refrigerator, a freezer and a few other appliances continuously with an Ecoflow Delta Pro 3600 . You will be running your generator constantly to keep pace. Might as well just hook up the appliances directly to the gas generator and skip the expensive battery bank, because it will recharge the batteries too slowly to keep up.
While the Bluetti is not perfect, it is getting better. 2400 W input is the best portable Generator out there. It is better than the Titan by 400 W input , and TWICE as good as the EcoFlow Delta Pro when looking at it in this light.
@@Archangel0804 Get something to eat Bud, you seem very hangry! Honestly, if you're looking for real backup power in a lengthy outage, a proper solar system with Lifepo batteries and a Growatt or similar inverter/charger system will far outperform any of these "solar generators". You'll just have to pay more money.
@@billpemberton3982 I'm looking for portability now because I have two properties. I want something I could use at my primary residence and at my remote property in my fifth wheeler I will be building a homestead property in the next 2 yrs on the remote property (I am a builder) When I go to a whole house system the plan at this moment is to go with a Sol Ark 12 Kw with Emp hardening. Undecided on Battery bank at this point but will consider any LiFePo4 bank that gives good bang for the buck. I should add I already have 10,000 Kw of panels...some at both places. Eventually they will ALL be at the homestead on groundmounts
How user repair friendly is it? When a component fails, can it be purchased and replaced by the owner or does it become a giant cinder block? Any right to repair issues with Bluetti? Do they have a parts department? These are things I never hear reviewers talk about....
These are not user friendly for repair. I have a few past videos that talk about this. If it breaks, it would be very tough to swap out boards. Most boards have multiple circuits unlike my all in one units. That is a huge downside of these plug n play units.
Well, that settled it then. Ok Will, I'm back to doing the home build. Now...I have to figure out which one of the many examples you have so eloquently designed to build for my needs. Thank you..
@@WillProwse Bluetti sent out an update on the EP500/Pro yesterday to backers that they are sorry about the delays, and they are in US warehouses now. AND they extended the warranty to this group of buyers from standard 2 yrs then 3yrs, now FIVE years.
Sounds like they are trying to keep their customers satisfied. Hope they make it and provide good long term support for these units. Waiting for your tests on the EP series. Has it been surpassed by the AC 300 series with the larger 3000w inverters?
I think the EPs are not currently available except maybe still on Indiegogo. At super-early bird prices and even on Indiegogo, they seem competitive with, if different than, the AC 300. But they are late to delivery after some board issue was found and already replaced. I know you will compare them eventually. 🙂
Good job Will love your channel
I’ve learned so much from all your videos. One thing I wonder has been can u add a wind turbine? With any of the builds u have done . Also can a wind turbine be hooked up to the ac300 or just solar ? Thank you for making informative content.
@12:45 "...how this locks together..." desk proceeds to sway but the battery stays solid :p
Hey bro could you do a video with the most cost efficient solar setup both off grid and grid tie system you can purchase from Alibaba, I see so many options but don't have a clue which one to choose.
Can it be used as a passive battery so if it is plugged to the wall and if my computer was plugged into it and the power went out would be my computer be okay?
I love your channel and reviews but I can’t find anywhere what your ultimate recommendation is for solar generator & panel kit would be. Thank you!
How does this setup compare to the Titan? I have the Titan with 4 stackable batteries and 20 100 watt panels...thanks!
Titan for me
Will, I have enjoyed your reviews. I wonder if you could arrange to do a review of the Clean Green Solar Machine. I can find no reviews on it and the only info consists of two informercials on YT. It looks like a real contender for a small home or remote application or as a back up. I figure you would do an excellent review on it.
11:20 did they ever end up adding that feature?
So, big question, in the event of an EMP or solar flare, these would likely be rendered useless. Any suggestions other than storing in a faraday cage on how to protect against such an event? Thanks!
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I think you may well have answered your own question.
Will, I submitted this comment earlier but it appears to have been deleted by someone… I don’t know why. I have been seriously considering buying this unit but am extremely hesitant for a few reasons:
#1 Bluetti is competing with itself and making its own products quickly obsolete. I bought an AC200P and within a few short months, two new models came out that were far superior. Why should I buy the AC300 when with this track record Bluetti will come out with the AC400 probably by early 2022??
#2 These huge cables on the side of the unit are ridiculous. The AC300 is a premium priced solar generator, so why have these ungainly cables protruding. How am I supposed to tuck this away in a neat unobtrusive location?? Does Titan have patents that keep Bluetti from integrating the connection between batteries within the housing?
#3… the screen. I hate the screen on the AC200P and the follow on models. It has about a 15 degree viewing angle. If you place it on the floor, you have to get down on hands and knees to be able to read the screen, not to mention it is totally useless in direct sunlight.
Why would I want to buy an AC300 when I already have an AC200P? …because within just a few days of owning the AC200P I realized the battery capacity is not adequate. 3-4kh should be the minimum. With just a modest load on the AC200P I find myself having to plug it into the wall to keep enough charge overnight until the sun comes up the next day. Why not buy an expansion battery? Because I’m using this for pass through charging and everything I’ve been able to discern is that solar charging would not be able to keep up with a 500w or more load, even with the expansion battery. I’ve read that the expansion battery can only pass a maximum of 500w charge to the main unit. Looks like I’m going to wait for the AC400… It should be here soon.
Hi will, I am blind. I would love to be able to use this because it sounds like it would be a good device for me. I cannot see the screen obviously but I could use the iPhone Buetti app if it works with voiceover on the iPhone. Would you be willing to try this out? You would just open the Bluetti app on the iPhone then tell Siri to open voiceover. You can Move your finger around the screen or move the finger repeatedly from left to right and it would speak. You could also do a one finger double tap on a button and if the items speak when you move your finger around the screen then it may be accessible. I thamnk you very much in advance for trying this out. I did contact Bluetti about this matter and the person said that they would send my request to tech support but as. Of now I haven’t received a response.
Will, if you were using this in a cold environment is there a way to keep the cells warm?
Awesome job on the videos. Love learning from your style.
My wife and I are moving into a full size school bus and want sufficient power. We’ve watched almost all of your cast because we believe you are one of the smartest young men we’ve ever come across.
We want to know what plug and play system would be best for us considering I’d burn the bus down trying to hook up the stuff you do.
1. Small occasional welder 110 V
2. Washer, dryer 110v
3. Mini split A/c single with heat… most time using diesel heater or wood stove during the day. Night time space heater or mini split ????
4. Trying for RV fridge 12v / propane.
5. All LED LIGHTS
6. Possible hot plate type stove!!!
7. Typical med size tv
8. Toaster oven / microwave / toaster / blender.
Have you figured out which system would work for you? I'm king of in the same boat. I live in a 30' motorhome and would like a plug'n play system.
Same boat as you guys. Any advice appreciated
I personally am thinking about the 300 48 system with 1 battery!!!
@@rickhoskins5524 what do you think you could run on you 1-8 list with 1 battery? How much solar panel will you need?
@@fightintheshade I’m hoping 12v trucker refrigerator, LED lighting, induction cook top, medium tv, microwave, mini split ac. Plus small charging ports for phones and such without worrying about power interruption.
Thanks for a great video. Have you tested the new EcoFlow Delta Pro? I just received mine and I’m trying to learn as much as I can.
I think the 30 amp plug can only do 25~ sustained amps because that was the intention. Your not supposed to run more than 80% of a wire/plugs rated capacity continuously. That’s why when your charging a EV on a 40 amp circuit you can only pull 32 amps sustained.
It makes sense that the plug can handle a bit more for the surge power.
Great video and thanks, what do you think about using this system as an off-grid system with solar panels for a large class a motor?
What type of household electrical system? To make some sense: we live in a 1920's barn converted into a simple home in the 60's (lower floor only; 2nd floor and 1/2 hay loft are used as storage only). The electric wiring is the old, grey, covered wiring. All is grand-fathered in. ... The electrical panel was replaced by in 2019. I want a solar generator to tap into the 30 cft older refrigerator; the older 7 cft chest freezer; and a new 3.5 cft chest freezer; plus recharging as to USB, power tools, weedeater, Yetti 1000, Shumacher smart battery, etc. Will something like the AC300.B300 blow out the electrical system from a much earlier era? * * The appliances are in different rooms and would be plugged into separately -- to rebuild the cold and frost at a certain point during power outages. We've had 2 power outages (1970's - 14 days; 2019 - 11 days; and mini outages of appx 2 or so days, now and then).
I bet this cost more then i could afford but looks amazing..
As I am sitting here in a local blackout. Message saying that it will back on in two hours. However I have a system Will had a video about. So lights are on and I'm charging my phone. !:- )
@@robertlloyd2436 I built a system started from the milk crate video Will shared that I expanded on. I have 200 watts of solar panels and my apartment probably won't let me have more panels. !:- ) It is a beginner system but it passed the test today.
Less Battery efficiency, heavier and not as portable as the Delta Pro. Can't think of any reason why I should get this one the competition.
Bluetti are using LiFePO4 batteries for all newer products, these are heavier and store less energy, but much more safer and long-lasting ( 2500 cycles, year with 8% discharge etc ). EcoFlow are using both LFP and LiPo / NCM . I wouldn't want big LiPo in my home.
11:00 Main issue: need 12V 30A DC power out (eg Anderson power pole) to run security equipment (PoE routers, IP cameras, misc equipment for a DC powered van 🚐 or cabin 🛖)
the RV cable set comes with a xt90 to anderson cable. a lot of routers run on 24V so it's nice that it can supply that natively. most other PoE is 48 volts so you'll need a PoE switch or midspan doodad to get PoE.
Those are huge! They don’t look that big online, wow!
Thank you! The only problem I see, that I am in Europe and can't buy this amazing product. :-)
You and Hobotech keep these companies on their toes. Great vid.
Damn I'm only starting with building my own modular system but big companies are releasing this already
"30Amps" - maybe there's a heap of capacitors on the output & it could do a 30A peak, by stating that - maybe it would help to put in the right fuse on that link & wouldnt trip out if there was a peak surge in power
Its actually a naming convention for the receptacles. For example that is a 30A receptacle type which accepts a 30A plug. Your standard AC plug is rated only to 20A, or 15A on some circuits depending on wire thickness and plug.
Peak is actually 32 Amps from what I understand
I just bit the bullet on this set up with the 350w PV. I cannot find answer to this question: Can it be charge with a dc/dc controller (for direct alternator to device)-not just a plug for the ‘cigarette lighter’ port?
Will, if you are using one of these for an UPS how do you control the automatic bypass switch?
10:00 you doing God's work! Thank you for the suggestions for off grid!!
I wish he would evaluate the no load power condition for each output circuit. If you have no charging for a week, how much power is lost just because the outputs are enabled?