Man brought out a pipe and another man brought out a gun because he felt his life was in danger . Isnt this just standard using of 2nd Amendment rights?
The questions are legally speaking, Is a gun an equivalent response to a pipe? Or is a pipe a lethal weapon, Or Is a gun a legal defense when flight was available? When you go to concealed carry class, They teach of proportional response in regards to the law. This is some of the criteria they will use in order to justify a self defense plea. In case you are wondering how I know this, I took and passed my CC class from my local Sheriff's Office. They offer them in most jurisdictions as far as I know.
Yes while he is bashing you with steel Pipe call ACLU for Clarification on Proportional defense..then call NRA for data on concealed carry and self preservation😅😅
@@ElectrifiedStardust California does not have a specific "stand your ground" law. However, the state does not impose a duty to retreat before using force in self-defense, meaning individuals can defend themselves without retreating if they reasonably believe it is necessary to prevent imminent harm. KNOW and read your laws.
Nah, he is cooperating in the investigation. If he has no permit for the gun or if the gun is hot, that's a different story. All States have different laws
@@tonydanger9696 the fact they didn’t identify ANY of the suspects tells you all you need to know. Look at the FBI crime stats. The majority of these crimes aren’t being committed by white gangs…
Why do people who don't live in California keep saying this? You are allowed to defend yourself. You're just not allowed to carry a gun without a permit, just like most other states that don't have an open carry law. The victim/defender will probably get in trouble for unlawfully carrying a firearm but I doubt he'll be in trouble for taking out the suspect. He's also probably going to get charged with shooting his friend.
In California it’s against the law to have an unregistered firearm in California if it’s outside of your residence if not it’s perfectly legal to have an unregistered firearm in your house
Pay attention to your own shopping and stop being so nosy. It trips me out, when I'm at the store in an aisle and people are staring at me and not the products. Get a life, mind your own business. If you need some eye contact, go stare at your kids.
@@richardmann8448 Well, I just personally noticed more violence and increase in crime due to overall culture and also relaxed crime penalties in California but hopefully that can change soon.
@@politicsnewsconsumption8076that's not going to change 😂 and the crime rate is not in the 1990s anymore smh you people love to exaggerat everything it's annoying asf
What the heck is going on in this once very nice city called the City of Angels......it's become the City of Devils, that's what !! Shootings, stabbings, car jackings, store robberies, store thefts, John is killing Sally, Mary is stabbing Gloria, Teo, Rick, and Eloise drove Mark to the park and then shot him, .......what the hell? Is Los Angeles becoming a hell hole??? Watch out folks, the devil and his disciples are on the loose and causing chaos everywhere....hear them laughing??!!
Sun Valley? That’s super close to my hometown of La Crescenta! YIKES!!! (My family and I moved to Colorado in 1997 when I was 5 but I always spent my summers in California visiting family)
Bro something is more likely to happen to you in a Food 4 less with all those looses going in with their EBT to get the lowest quality food and lowest prices
@@edgarflor6408you don’t. They were most definitely Latino because 95% of sun valley is Latino. And not because of some stereotype you so desperately want to reassure yourself of every news story that comes out.
Oh that's OK. All thanks to the lame duck DA gascon, and his no-bail release policies, the shooter will walk out of custody a free man within the hour!
@vidaacheampong2563 Sun Valley is 70% Hispanic. That's high but far from 100%. Plus, who knows how many of those are immigrants. Wished y'all provided a REAL source, not just guestimations.
Many are the children of illegal immigrants, there parents don't teach them or don't care, I live and have shopped in that store, even before that store was ever built, I rode my bike in that lot so I know the area and the people.
Because he's cooperating. They didn't say he was arrested, and if that was the case then he's free to go, but since he's cooperating, he's still there.
The prepackaged sandwiches at the deli went from $5 to $6 to $7 now $8 in just a few years. How high can you go? Bag if mandarins $7 of course people are pisssed!
13% out of control = Blackctivities every hour of every day in democrap cities nationwide. Ignoring the African elephant in the room for too long lead us to here.
a small price to pay when you live in a Self Proclaimed "greatest country in the world" not to mention a G un In fested country... greatest B S .. ever ...
I want to know who these people were. Were they Eskimos? Were they tribal? Maybe they rode the 'little bus' and were sick of all the teasing and chit. Just more left news that isn't worth much.
If he didn't shoot he would have been a victim these guys had pipes thats a deadly weapon
No wonder every supermarket hire armed security guard
Man brought out a pipe and another man brought out a gun because he felt his life was in danger . Isnt this just standard using of 2nd Amendment rights?
The questions are legally speaking, Is a gun an equivalent response to a pipe? Or is a pipe a lethal weapon, Or Is a gun a legal defense when flight was available?
When you go to concealed carry class, They teach of proportional response in regards to the law. This is some of the criteria they will use in order to justify a self defense plea. In case you are wondering how I know this, I took and passed my CC class from my local Sheriff's Office. They offer them in most jurisdictions as far as I know.
CA hates the 2A
Yes while he is bashing you with steel Pipe call ACLU for Clarification on Proportional defense..then call NRA for data on concealed carry and self preservation😅😅
California doesn't have a self-defense law it's called justifiable means and it isn't a stand your ground state
@@ElectrifiedStardust California does not have a specific "stand your ground" law. However, the state does not impose a duty to retreat before using force in self-defense, meaning individuals can defend themselves without retreating if they reasonably believe it is necessary to prevent imminent harm. KNOW and read your laws.
Sooooo the "victim" got arrested for protecting himself????
Nah, he is cooperating in the investigation. If he has no permit for the gun or if the gun is hot, that's a different story. All States have different laws
They're youngsters , probably gun related
They never said he was arrested, just in custody. Although he can leave, he's likely voluntarily "in custody" because he's cooperating.
Good guy OR bad guy, if you discharge your weapon out in public you're gonna be detained & questioned even in "self defense" situations.
Don’t need the police it will be to late defend yourself at all time
Self defense clearly.
We need culture control not gun control
@@mikeokeefe2014 What if they are white? would you say the same?
@@tonydanger9696we know they arent so doesnt matter
@@tonydanger9696 the fact they didn’t identify ANY of the suspects tells you all you need to know. Look at the FBI crime stats. The majority of these crimes aren’t being committed by white gangs…
@@tonydanger9696y’all just love racism huh? Culture isn’t about race brother man. Go look up the definition🙂
@Yelo_54 so what is it to you?
Stupid california laws.....you are NOT allowed to defend yourself. You are EXPECTED to lay down and die a victim....pathetic.
Why do people who don't live in California keep saying this? You are allowed to defend yourself. You're just not allowed to carry a gun without a permit, just like most other states that don't have an open carry law. The victim/defender will probably get in trouble for unlawfully carrying a firearm but I doubt he'll be in trouble for taking out the suspect. He's also probably going to get charged with shooting his friend.
In California it’s against the law to have an unregistered firearm in California if it’s outside of your residence if not it’s perfectly legal to have an unregistered firearm in your house
It's BEEN dangerous to go to the grocery store for a long time 🙄 ....
whats making going grocery shop so dangerous now, food scarcity and poverty? I go to ralphs a lot and see the riffraffs always scoping people out.
Yes the prices is dangerously high
At 11:30 pm, it's dangerous
Pretty soon it will be safer. No Grocery Stores, Restaurants, Malls, everything you want will be delivered to your home
@@randycarman897 That's true but unfair for the night shift workers that just want to grab a bite to eat or snacks when they're off.
Pay attention to your own shopping and stop being so nosy. It trips me out, when I'm at the store in an aisle and people are staring at me and not the products. Get a life, mind your own business. If you need some eye contact, go stare at your kids.
Hahahahaha!
It sure sounds gang-related.
It doesn't appear to be gang related? A group of men followed another group of men and shooting occurred. Group vs group is gang related
Yes, usually.
Maybe Frat related?
Rip slabs put in work for his hood
Literally just quit this job last week WTF
Be honest? They sell close to expiration products in sale? And their meat is over priced? Tell me the truth?
Way to bring a pipe to a gun fight
Edgars?😢
Or Chads
Notice no mention of the description of the parties involved???
1:47 They're searching but they give no description?
Do they sell basketballs at Ralph's?
They sell backwoods
Trailers and Mobile homes
That area of the city, I doubt it. Seems like they were looking for pinatas, but the pinata was holding heat.
No they sell TACOS 🌮 and ⚽ balls
Mayo and Moonshine are big items at that Ralphs.
Descriptions so we can build awareness in order to protect ourselves?
If there is no description you know who did it
@@bigmacfullerton7870yep. The last 200 years of media in America has proven to protect this group of people at all costs. It’s so demonic, friends.
He got arrested cause he wasn't a police officer shooting blindly into a crowd, So self defense turned into the Offense here....
They never said he got arrested, just in custody. Although he can leave, he's likely still "in custody" because he's cooperating.
@@thefox47545 With LAPD being in Custody is being Arrested, You can't leave free willing NO,.. Ha cause then They will shoot YOU!
Clean up on aisle 5.......
😂
🥳🥳
Our country has major problems.
What country doesn’t?
But but but, Republicans said Trump will singlehandedly fix it all (not bloody likely).
@@richardmann8448 Well, I just personally noticed more violence and increase in crime due to overall culture and also relaxed crime penalties in California but hopefully that can change soon.
@@politicsnewsconsumption8076that's not going to change 😂 and the crime rate is not in the 1990s anymore smh you people love to exaggerat everything it's annoying asf
@@thefox47545 Somebody told me to fix this country, but I told him it would simply be too much work.
Once it gets dark, STAY HOME FOLKS.
I don’t know how things work in California but in “America”, it’s called self defense ‼️
Tragic. God protect all the innocent kids employees and families out there
Two groups shopping at Ralphs? Must be families buying grocery ready to give thanks and count their blessings being Americans or pseudo Americans.
Self defense, next
Sun valley is the biggest dump in socal tied with pacoima
And they say Mexico is dangerous
It is. Mexico is here now.
It is dangerous that’s why your people are running 😂
@@JFrog-vs7nw my people? I live in California dude but I don't think it's fair to say the usa is any better
@@rampardos707 then why are they coming here illegally ? 😂🤝🏼
@@JFrog-vs7nw yo do know the vast majority of them are not from Mexico right? There are more countries down there
What the heck is going on in this once very nice city called the City of Angels......it's become the City of Devils, that's what !! Shootings, stabbings, car jackings, store robberies, store thefts, John is killing Sally, Mary is stabbing Gloria, Teo, Rick, and Eloise drove Mark to the park and then shot him, .......what the hell? Is Los Angeles becoming a hell hole??? Watch out folks, the devil and his disciples are on the loose and causing chaos everywhere....hear them laughing??!!
Just deliver my groceries 😢
In LA they got of cars so there is camera footage. Soon we will know.
U can't defend yourself in California.
You can't defend yourself in neighboring states either.
@@MrJuvefrank Arizona, Nevada? Are you not smart or am I missing something here?
Sometimes not.
were was the security guards they should be armed
So senseless! 💔 😭
Close the boarder
Agree
Where is the boarder?
@@RC_928 south
*Border 🤦♂️
@@cindyfall8063 Can't really do that with MILLIONS of Americans crossing back and forth every day.
Sun Valley? That’s super close to my hometown of La Crescenta! YIKES!!! (My family and I moved to Colorado in 1997 when I was 5 but I always spent my summers in California visiting family)
Wonder who the shooter was? Sun Valley….hmm bet my guess is right.
Crimefornia
Crime will be moving into the White House in January.
Imagine someone gets killed at your job last night and boss still wants you in at 6am😅😅😅😅
Now they do it everywhere. I can imagine the afterlife.
Little bit of crime huh
This was related to the Edgar haircut this season if you know you know
He did what he was supposed to do good job …but I do need to hear both sides
It's the store's fault for running out of Cinnamon toast crunch cereal. When there's only one box left you never know what might happen? 😬
I stopped going to this store for years..🙄but I shop somewhere else for safe reasons.🤔
the earlier the better you get in and get out and you have the store to yourself 😂😂
@realf1rme Yep!😆
That guy just yelled sun valley boys and started shooting smh
How do you know
It must be an American thing.
I thought USA is a peaceful country 😊
Self defense
Sun valley second time in the news this week.
Kroger -riffic
NON union Food 4 Less
Bro something is more likely to happen to you in a Food 4 less with all those looses going in with their EBT to get the lowest quality food and lowest prices
What color?
Lord have mercy,so much violence!
Well, it was prophesied in the Bible that there will be lots of violence in the last days.
Wooow.
Its just one of those things? 😮
What race?
We already know
@@edgarflor6408you don’t. They were most definitely Latino because 95% of sun valley is Latino. And not because of some stereotype you so desperately want to reassure yourself of every news story that comes out.
Daytona 500?, Indianapolis 500?, United States Grand Prix?, 24 Hours of Le Mans?
Yes😂
Zoo nearby ...door left open😅
This store will close now
im gonna have to ask some questions when i go into work
Gang members attack anybody
This is why i shop at Whole Foods in South La.
Oh no it can’t be gang related in a beautiful place called Sun Valley
Wanna be gang members yes this youth is taught by music videos n parents let them 😂
So sad and scary.
What a dump you guys live in…way to go! 🤦🏻♂️
"The Street's of Rage" in full effect.
Purple.
Where?
Sure sounds like gang related!!! What do the security tapes show??!!!
Rip slabs
That news reporter is an imposter! Lol
THATS KRAZY INSIDE
Where in sun valley
ralphs
The bad part
California living: Next to nature!
Oh that's OK.
All thanks to the lame duck DA gascon, and his no-bail release policies, the shooter will walk out of custody a free man within the hour!
Blame it on inflation. Price shock is no joke, make you mad.
If that's the case THE ENTIRE COUNTRY would be offing each other.
They are all Mexican immigrants its truly sad
Source?
@@thefox47545Sun valley .. go figure
@vidaacheampong2563 Sun Valley is 70% Hispanic. That's high but far from 100%. Plus, who knows how many of those are immigrants. Wished y'all provided a REAL source, not just guestimations.
Many are the children of illegal immigrants, there parents don't teach them or don't care, I live and have shopped in that store, even before that store was ever built, I rode my bike in that lot so I know the area and the people.
Ralph's is very violent 😬
just a bunch of dudes piping each other down in a Ralph's.
What a fool you should Your own homie.😂😂😂😂😂😂
dont do it at ralphs please, i love to shop there they have good donut prices
All about money
Is the shooter still in custody ? LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
Because he's cooperating. They didn't say he was arrested, and if that was the case then he's free to go, but since he's cooperating, he's still there.
The prepackaged sandwiches at the deli went from $5 to $6 to $7 now $8 in just a few years. How high can you go? Bag if mandarins $7 of course people are pisssed!
What
California has gone to the doggies.
👏 defense defense
13% out of control = Blackctivities every hour of every day in democrap cities nationwide. Ignoring the African elephant in the room for too long lead us to here.
For your safety, mental health and livelihood. Please stop mixing your daily Meth intake with Moonshine, ma’am.
a small price to pay when you live in a Self Proclaimed "greatest country in the world"
not to mention a G un In fested country...
greatest B S .. ever ...
I want to know who these people were. Were they Eskimos? Were they tribal? Maybe they rode the 'little bus' and were sick of all the teasing and chit. Just more left news that isn't worth much.
messycans
Dont care
Sounds like the Warriors are back at it again !!
I hope it wasn't in the soap isle...
Probably angry MAGAs
@@tonydanger9696 not
Lt Guy Golan? Comedian?? He pretends he would tell his son to obediantly comply with all laws while being killed with Pipes? Wait for cops to arrive?😅
I’m sure it was gang related’
Thats why I shop at erewhon lol
He lucky he have life after the lesson they learned FAFO IS REAL, PEOPLE OUTTA FEAR! I KNOW. TF I AM
Typical California 😂 protecting yourself is against the law 😂🤣🤝🏼
Kamala Peoples
So they were Indian and Irish groups going at it? Interesting, ma’am.
Get yo Bang Bang groceries at Ralph's.
THATS WHAT YOU GET WHEN YOU VOTE RED 🗳
Nonsense
Kamala Harris fans this is you all for voting for blue👬👈
B******* when trum comes into office is going to be different
Vote blue, no one will be arrested and those that were have already been released.
@danw2112 You democrats would love criminals to get away
LEGGO MY EGGOS !
That’s crazy this is my local market I shop at. Whaaaaaaaat