My family is from villages in Haryana and I’ve not heard of this and none of my family members have experienced this in their childhood. Cultures change even village to village even if they close by
Remember that India with its billion people has some 20 nations hidden inside it. Rural area in one such nation is much different to the next. You are seeing a place in India, it is less than "seeing India".
im not indian but the western world always try to place their own rules on other countries and its so cringy. nobody cares about your crazy politically correct ideas in rural areas people are trying not to starve...
@@mathsdebater How is it lazy journalism lol. They literally said it's practiced only in a few villages of North India. What else do you want them to do
This was a difficult documentary for me to watch but I appreciated the context provided. I’ve always had a dark & biased view of this living arrangement. I spent some time in northern India & befriended a few young men in their early twenties. Two of them confided in me that before they were married they lived in baithaks as young boys. Both were sexually abused by ‘uncles’ while living there and intimated that sexual abuse in this environment was common. This belief of corrupting young men if they live with their female relatives seems hypocritical because they are being corrupted by their male elders and this tradition perpetuates in following generations. As well baithak culture reinforces the idea that men cannot control their ‘nature’ therefore women need to be separated and at home keeps women in traditional roles as Kamalaji notes in her commentary.
people being raped in priests, maulvi, church pastor, does it mean all priest and moulvis are evil person, don't know paint whole picture with one brush my brother. Bad is everywhere, remove bad elements not the culture.
I am from the north India, same region they are reporting about, I denounce what the VICE has depicted of Baithak culture. 1. Baithak is not for separation of males and females, its the living room you fools. It severs for receiving visitors and gatherings Baithak = Baithna +thankna, which literally means to sit after getting tired. 2. Indian houses generally have two rooms , one for sleeping n other is mostly used for storing foodgrains, appliances and other equipments in rural areas. You can easily see in the houses they have shown 3. North India has high temperature and people cant affort ac and so Baithak or living room is used for sleeping as it has open ventilation. As it is large area and you sleep with brothers and elders of the family ( even 5-10) in join families you get to talk , play, listen stories and experiences it is a very enjoyable and secure place to sleep. At 7:20 this is what the boy has said There is gender segregation in Indian, but this is completely unrelated. Disappointed from VICE
What's the point of a house if not all family members can't live in it? What's the point of having a family if it will be divided for ridiculous reasons
They are rediculous and this is coming from a loyal christian man, who has dated indians, Muslims, Hindus. Also members of my family before were Hindus or Muslims and also, I'm Guyanese so we have culture that's carribbean but Indian ish too.
@@SandeepSingh-wr2uu how you so sure? If doesn't make it to news it doesn't means it is not happening. Check data of crime against women in US, don't be a sleeping sheep.
@@SandeepSingh-wr2uu there's no term like "rape culture", certain section of sick mentality prevail in every country, just stop quoting india specifically.
"our ancestors made this system and nobody questioned it" this dude understands. keeping traditions alive is good and all, but some traditions are just not suitable for the modern world we live in.
I'm from India. I live in a rural village fron the neighbouring state of Rajasthan and Haryana. Had no idea about. Must be some really idk old or rural thing in a very few villages.
The Vice wants to show the last village that may be practising this and paint this as it happens throughout North India.I have never ever seen or heard about a thing like this.
@@mustardoil3841 They never said it is practiced all over North India , Wrong exist everywhere , we need to embrace it than hiding , then only a society will improve . Pride is the devil .
Total projection ❄@@mustardoil3841❄. They make several mentions of other parts of the country feeling differently, that this is an old and dying out tradition, only a few villages, blah, blah, blah. But all you'll do is strawman any claim so to be offended, without an ounce of realization of the irony. I'm sure there are millions of good people acting differently and fighting for change, but India is an extremely misogynistic society as a whole... period. By and large they're living by the beliefs forced upon them by their 18th century British rulers. 🙄 #fact
I hate arguments based in tradition. Reject tradition and embrace change. Idk how they don’t realize they will be the elders one day and even if the current ones don’t change, they have the chance to change it when they come up.
Just today morning I was watching a video about atrocities on women in Afghanistan And now this Just few hundred kilometers from my home This patriarchy These 'women' propagating patriarchy The caste system Things like honour killing This is all so frustrating for thousands of youngsters like me And I've reached to a conclusion that only education is not the solution I've seen well educated people whether Doctors Professors Engineers they are so much interested in preserving this caste system and patriarchy...That just burns my heart What can we expect from rural India ? Tired Frustrated Numb Helpless
You're not helpless, dear. In a gentle way you can shake the world, just like Gandhi said. An individual can stand up against meaningless traditions and start fighting to create positive changes. Soon you'll see the likeminded join you. And change will come.
Has anyone in these communities wondered why there's no economic growth? I'm unsure if anyone of them have realized that collectively living together away from women makes it very difficult to build a better society. If you live with your wife or girlfriend, it can be motivational to do better financially while also having ownership of your own property. Growth through real estate is vital for any population. You cant do that when you're stuck outside in a building with 50 other men.
From what I've just watched, they don't want to provide a good life for their wives. They believe wives are their slaves and are just there to wash their clothes, cook them food and have sex with. What a sad existence for these women.
I am from the north India, same region they are reporting about, I denounce what the VICE has depicted of Baithak culture. 1. Baithak is not for separation of males and females, its the living room you fools. It severs for receiving visitors and gatherings Baithak = Baithna +thankna, which literally means to sit after getting tired. 2. Indian houses generally have two rooms , one for sleeping n other is mostly used for storing foodgrains, appliances and other equipments in rural areas. You can easily see in the houses they have shown 3. North India has high temperature and people cant affort ac and so Baithak or living room is used for sleeping as it has open ventilation. As it is large area and you sleep with brothers and elders of the family ( even 5-10) in join families you get to talk , play, listen stories and experiences it is a very enjoyable and secure place to sleep. At 7:20 this is what the boy has said There is gender segregation in Indian, but this is completely unrelated. Disappointed from VICE
I live in India and i never saw this happening before. I was born in a city yet I have visited many villages and i never saw this happening in real life. Maybe this village, along with a few others are the only ones practicing such ideology. People now wont support such ideologies anymore (Im talking about the new generation). I hope those who are practicing it realise how bad it is to separate people on the basis of gender and this practice soon shreds to dust.
It's not in rural India ...... it's only practiced in some rural parts of North India people from South India has never seen or even heard of these kind of practices
This is great system, girls matures faster than boys and if they going together to school girls develop opinion about inmature men that later leads to lack of respect.
Gender segregation is common in Islam and Hindoo cultures . Its not a problem in only india. The situation of gender segregation is same here in Nepal Hindoo society. Come visit the Buddhist regions of Nepal and you won't see any gender segregation And the segregation is worst in Islamic nations like Pakistan, afghan
My only issue with this is that the space and practice put boys in vulnerable situation to be raped by older males. I am too from a traditional Muslim country and sexual assault against young males especially in schools is a very known taboo.
Vice has many ideas about making videos about faults in India but no videos on mishandling of covid crisis or of the incest and adultery committed in the USA. Why vice?
🤣😂🤣😂 A. Because your R○na response and in■■st are worse.... Also B. THEY HAVE. Atleast the former, A LOT. You just don't pay attention and only listen when you're offended and want to cry about the US....
Trust me my friend they don’t need to make videos about the problems in the USA we already know them. Such a high percentage don’t even know they are being brainwashed and to scared to step outside.
Two minutes silence for those who thinks that this is all true. I am from mewat Trust me baithak is like a guest room and not all the villagers could afford to build a baithak as mewat is a very poor district.only few families in a village could afford to build baithaks. where many villagers could come to have some gossips.its basically a timepass room for older and younger people as most of the youth is unemployed. All the men including younger and older could sleep in their homes.Thsi is all bullshit. I used to believe everything thing that vice shows but now not anymore. kuch bhi chal raha yaar it's really shameful
@@wavywoman1494 so you trust a random youtube comment over multiple peoples account told in this story? Lmao okay. No wonder people believe in election fraud when its not real
I agree with you that Western media tries to portray completely misunderstanding and misrepresent our tradition, practices and cultures as a whole but don't you think it's possible that this particular practice is limited to that particular Gaav or Tahluk ? There is a lot of diversity in India and you see some instances of a particular community or sect engaged in certain practices that the the same community only a few kilometres away may not indulge in. These people seemed quite genuine in their interview so I'm just honestly asking. I don't condemn this tradition or anything. I think it does have its advantages as well as disadvantages.
Typical radical feminist response to adultery : protect the adultress and pass downright vile, disgusting remarks against the innocent husband. Your statement is wrong on so many levels : Men naturally are protective and prevent/ act as a sheild towards the opposite gender they have familial relationships or sexually involved with
Yes im not saying it's ok because it's both genres as well it might not he allowed in other cultures but not to say it doesn't happen allowed or not sad but true...face facts the world is not evolving we are in actuality going backwards...not good!!!
That's just one village cultures. And it was just in one district. You have no idea how big is India and how diverse is India. You cannot find this culture in next state or next district... Westerners must try to look in indian perspective than in there own
@@SRV1o1 what's so obscure about it? I get it it's fascinating they are seeing something different. I'm not insecure about anything. But the way foreign media show south Asia is what I don't like
How is this really any different than rich European’s who have ‘mens clubs’ where they play pool & smoke cigarettes? While the girls go horse riding and drink white wine?
@@yetanotherPC Yes they do there is a long tradition of boys only schools & female only boarding schools. They sometimes go home for the weekends etc. Sure the structure may have small differences, but the basic principles are there.
@Bedeutungslosigkeit lol ur saying anti vaxx protests are bad? The vaxx that has a no liability clause still in clinical trials, that is the least effective way to protect from covid? Chris rock caught covid despite have multiple doses and urges ppl to get vaxxed. Sheep like u need to stick to fortnite
It a stupid practice literally hundreds of culture exist without baithak system and we don't see any disrespectfullness with each other its just comes to education give these people good education this system will eventually fade away
Is this really different from the British custom of sending children off to boarding schools? The concern to me is a lack of equity for males & females.
It’s kind of an insult that you are comparing this practice to getting a world class education (literally boarding schools in the uk are usually for the super rich, and not just British children either)
India is the home of the Kama Sutra. Now it propagates the 18th Century sexual and gender morality of their oppressors. That's the most ignorant thing about it. (Although on my last visit, I noticed a lot of young folk picking up on and discussing that issue!)
I can't imagine what its like to sleep with several men from a third world country in the same room. I can already think of lice, body odor, feet odor, tobacco, body hair everywhere...etc
@@Aurelio_3906 I presume your stance is the same regarding unborn children, masks, & vaccine mandates right? Or is ‘stfu & let them live’ a position you only extend to ethnic people? 🙄
@@Player-oe7zu No let’s go invade their country and start another useless 20 year war, trying to force democracy upon on a country that doesn’t want it.
@@Player-oe7zu Literally the argument westerner's make when they governments and their governments send their highly advanced military to places like the middle east and bomb innocents. Congrats!
This is simply not true. You need to educate yourself about what truly happens in India in terms of domestic violence, rape, revenge killings and incest.
What about marital rape? It's crime in UK not in our India And India has high rate of domestic violence as compared to developed countries Nd try to compare India with Sweden and Finland not with Afghanistan or Saudi Arabia only of then we can improve
The people in the comments should see the whole vedio,this tradition is rarely practiced,only in some villages or towns,and this vedio is overly exaggerated.
Homeless people living 2 minutes outside of Vice offices - go away no one cares about you. Men and boys living together inside of a building in India -OMG this is so sad. Let’s interview this boy to see if he misses sleeping in the house.
When I was younger I thought the whole arranged marriage thing in India was ridiculous and backward. Then I got out and did some living and now I have a completely opposite opinion. When you are in lust with someone you are the LAST person who is capable to make educated and sound life changing decisions as you truly are blinded by emotions. Your family is more trustworthy. They can see what you don’t see in your emotional state.
What if you are gay? What if your family is abusive? What if your spouse has some kind of.problem like alcoholism? What if your spouse is abusive or have an affair?
@@prathamsaxena9503 I work with a lot of people from India and everyone I’ve talked to about it says that the final decision is up to you. You are by no means stuck with someone that they pick and that’s it. One guy I know told me that he and his now wife both went through a ton of other suitors before they met and got to know each other. For them it was more of the families introducing you to each other with you doing the rest. Obviously it’s not like that everywhere in India.
Ok guys calm down, baithak exist, that majority in North India, but they are becoming ancient history and very hard to find! Now days, Baithak simply means drawing room!!
I don't know much about this community so I am not making a call here. I can't help but think that exposure to the opposite sex is the best way to remedy all the problems here.
@albert einstien Diversity doesn't come from having more number of people. China has about 1.5 billion people and Mexico about 120 Million but most people will agree that Mexico has more diversity than China.
Wow the comments moderation on this video is super tight and biased. As soon as I used the word Islam in the comment it got deleted in 10 secs. Even though I didn't use any hate speech just stated facts about why villages in North West India imported these traditions and what pushed them in the last 1000 years.
Hello I am from North India. There is no custom like this. There are still a few baithaks where men play cards and enjoy hukka but not like segregation. In muslim families in a few districts, I think they follow this system. Vice is not that much vice.
@@ibraheemabro1978 Thanks. That’s what I wanted to know. It didn’t feel like they lived there. But the names sound kind of similar and both Sindh and Rajasthan are in the same region, so I was just wondering. But Thank you.
I don't understand why are boys kept separate from their homes.. As if the rape victim is inside their own house.. or is it like a boys school, where they teach boys something..
What they're doing doesn't make any rational sense, it's straight up discrimination against boys by forcing them to stay outside of their home and it's discrimination against women by forcing them to wear ridiculous outfits and by applying various other restrictions
Your comment would be much more effective if you pointed out one or two things that are misleading, and show why. Your statement is pretty redundant (aren’t “skewered facts,” “misleading” or “taken out of context” pretty much a repetition of the same thing?), so you have the space. Otherwise you just look like an angry dude who just screams “fake news” at every reality they dislike, but with no logic behind it.
Eastern and southern India is different and i don't think things like this exists there, may be some other problems but ghunghat and baithak i guess not
Man you people are so divisive and sexist it’s disgusting. Since you know how it’s beneficial to men then go ahead and explain it to us? You’re more than likely just saying something you feel without any logical thought behind it, which is very typical these days lol.
That's Bcz Muslim invasions were not so successful in South India. In North India we also didn't had the veil thing until Islamists with their honour and Burkha culture arrived we are a warm country and People dressed accordingly and also child marriage etc were mostly started in practice during Islamic era only. And sati also got more prevalent. And I am more than sure that this practice is also the result of the same..
11:44 This system is created by the affluent who imprison their women. Boom! In a place like India it is easier to say such things without beating around the bush.
Same delusional comment.... India is diverse.... now if you have more than 2 kids you are not eligible for government job....even society ridicule such peoples....
Why do brothers and sisters, and brother-in-laws and sister-in-laws, and mothers and sons need to be seperate? I'm so confused. My sister and I shared a bedroom with our brothers until our early teens when our parents purchased a three bedroom home. They're literally my brothers - we have the same parents. There was nothing weird about sharing space with your own siblings.
It's not a large area phenomenon. I live a 2 hour from this area. And lived my Early years with my sister. Also went to combined gender schools and one of my best friend were girls. My sister is now a doctor. And I am Math and computing student.and I lived in a village. Gender equality is still a farcry in my area though.Some people still spent more on boys studies. Also boys have more independence like curfew time,more leninancy if done a mistake.It's not better place for uneducated women. As one of my paternal aunt(uneducated) said to her daughter that if u want a dignified and equal life. She should study hard and get independent.
My family is from villages in Haryana and I’ve not heard of this and none of my family members have experienced this in their childhood. Cultures change even village to village even if they close by
bhai mewat ki baat h
mewat ne aapha jaana hi ha
Remember that India with its billion people has some 20 nations hidden inside it. Rural area in one such nation is much different to the next. You are seeing a place in India, it is less than "seeing India".
Great comment. Westerners fail to realize this and generalize the various cultures. Really lazy journalism
@@mathsdebater TRUE
True. Generally this applies to almost any coverage that Western media does outside of US and select cities of Europe.
im not indian but the western world always try to place their own rules on other countries and its so cringy. nobody cares about your crazy politically correct ideas in rural areas people are trying not to starve...
@@mathsdebater How is it lazy journalism lol. They literally said it's practiced only in a few villages of North India. What else do you want them to do
This was a difficult documentary for me to watch but I appreciated the context provided. I’ve always had a dark & biased view of this living arrangement. I spent some time in northern India & befriended a few young men in their early twenties. Two of them confided in me that before they were married they lived in baithaks as young boys. Both were sexually abused by ‘uncles’ while living there and intimated that sexual abuse in this environment was common.
This belief of corrupting young men if they live with their female relatives seems hypocritical because they are being corrupted by their male elders and this tradition perpetuates in following generations. As well baithak culture reinforces the idea that men cannot control their ‘nature’ therefore women need to be separated and at home keeps women in traditional roles as Kamalaji notes in her commentary.
Don't paint whole picture with one brush
people being raped in priests, maulvi, church pastor, does it mean all priest and moulvis are evil person, don't know paint whole picture with one brush my brother. Bad is everywhere, remove bad elements not the culture.
@@veerbhati2125 You don't try to change the narrative, this whole backward practice is bs and should be discontinued ASAP!.
I am from the north India, same region they are reporting about, I denounce what the VICE has depicted of Baithak culture.
1. Baithak is not for separation of males and females, its the living room you fools. It severs for receiving visitors and gatherings
Baithak = Baithna +thankna, which literally means to sit after getting tired.
2. Indian houses generally have two rooms , one for sleeping n other is mostly used for storing foodgrains, appliances and other equipments in rural areas. You can easily see in the houses they have shown
3. North India has high temperature and people cant affort ac and so Baithak or living room is used for sleeping as it has open ventilation. As it is large area and you sleep with brothers and elders of the family ( even 5-10) in join families you get to talk , play, listen stories and experiences it is a very enjoyable and secure place to sleep. At 7:20 this is what the boy has said
There is gender segregation in Indian, but this is completely unrelated.
Disappointed from VICE
@@gabrielfrost9134 let's stop this practice. Come to me and we'll not be segregated
I guess its just too hard to not be rapist or not sexually assault your own family.
Actually this promote hate crimes against women
It is
Wtf is wrong with you@@abijit.r
What's the point of a house if not all family members can't live in it?
What's the point of having a family if it will be divided for ridiculous reasons
They are rediculous and this is coming from a loyal christian man, who has dated indians, Muslims, Hindus. Also members of my family before were Hindus or Muslims and also, I'm Guyanese so we have culture that's carribbean but Indian ish too.
Dudes living the hostel life right from their teen 😂
Preparation for Kota
Here in west, hostels in college are gender neutral
@@jefrreyjeffery2192 ok. So? Do you want boys and girls in same washroom? It's not your family
@@ವರುಣ್ರಾಜು yes Actually. There's no need to separate bathrooms based on gender.
Because in west they don't rape women unlike indians ☕☕☕@@ವರುಣ್ರಾಜು
Lack of education fuels this.
Education about what? These guys aren't gonna stop oppressing women just because they learn to read and write
@The Jesuits Doesn't matter. America may have its own problem but women's safety and rape culture isn't one of them.
@Yatesh Kumar It's not masala. You and I both know rape culture and lack of women's rights are prevalent in India. You are ignorant if you deny that.
@@SandeepSingh-wr2uu how you so sure? If doesn't make it to news it doesn't means it is not happening. Check data of crime against women in US, don't be a sleeping sheep.
@@SandeepSingh-wr2uu there's no term like "rape culture", certain section of sick mentality prevail in every country, just stop quoting india specifically.
The underlying implications of these practices are pretty fucking creepy...
Right!? It implies that all men and young boys are somehow constantly at risk of having sex with their sisters or mothers.
@@josephburnside2135 u a moron? India is #1 in the world for incest and inbreeding
@@eliassanchez420wakenbake Yes. And you could have made your point without being a prick.
@@theplaylister Little snowflake got their feelings hurt? Awww ❄❄❄
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Comments like these are why y'all should be put out the house too
"Bro India doesn't have a sexism problem bro it's western propaganda bro"
lol
Bro, how many times will you write "bro", bro?
"yes sarr vee injianz are very developed and superpower sarr"
@@GrigRP 😭
Bruh, you won the internet today!
"our ancestors made this system and nobody questioned it" this dude understands. keeping traditions alive is good and all, but some traditions are just not suitable for the modern world we live in.
I'm from India. I live in a rural village fron the neighbouring state of Rajasthan and Haryana. Had no idea about. Must be some really idk old or rural thing in a very few villages.
The Vice wants to show the last village that may be practising this and paint this as it happens throughout North India.I have never ever seen or heard about a thing like this.
Wow you have internet there.
@@alex-sv8ru 700 million internet users.
@@mustardoil3841 They never said it is practiced all over North India , Wrong exist everywhere , we need to embrace it than hiding , then only a society will improve . Pride is the devil .
Total projection ❄@@mustardoil3841❄. They make several mentions of other parts of the country feeling differently, that this is an old and dying out tradition, only a few villages, blah, blah, blah.
But all you'll do is strawman any claim so to be offended, without an ounce of realization of the irony.
I'm sure there are millions of good people acting differently and fighting for change, but India is an extremely misogynistic society as a whole... period. By and large they're living by the beliefs forced upon them by their 18th century British rulers.
🙄
#fact
I hate arguments based in tradition. Reject tradition and embrace change. Idk how they don’t realize they will be the elders one day and even if the current ones don’t change, they have the chance to change it when they come up.
Careful. You my find out why the custom lasted so long to begin with.
nah tradition is dope in most cases
No more holidays for you, Mattew.
some people are afraid of change cause they think its devils work and are afraid of change cause its belittling to humanity
Tradition or change are subjective. If things make sense, doesn't matter traditional or newer, they should be embraced
This doesn't happens in 99% of rural india
i m indian and i heard this first time
Yes there are several other methods to promote and protect patriarchy 😊
North Indian ... Alchon Huns Mongol Caucasian people Fallow these type of tradition
@@rehanansari009 don't do north vs south muslim
Like you done in middle East shia vs sunni
correct - shame vice has failed soo hard publishing this doc without doing any fact checking
Imagine going through all this work to separate them and the guy turns out to be gay😂 That’d be a real plot twist lmao
lol
😂😂
XD
Lack of Education is the root cause of all this chutiyapa
Even educated people in these states support it... It's the fault of society in general...
Just today morning I was watching a video about atrocities on women in Afghanistan
And now this
Just few hundred kilometers from my home
This patriarchy
These 'women' propagating patriarchy
The caste system
Things like honour killing
This is all so frustrating for thousands of youngsters like me
And I've reached to a conclusion that only education is not the solution
I've seen well educated people whether Doctors Professors Engineers they are so much interested in preserving this caste system and patriarchy...That just burns my heart
What can we expect from rural India ?
Tired
Frustrated
Numb
Helpless
Keep bootlicking western liberalism, I'm sure it will serve you and your country well.
@@fops1999 where u from
You're not helpless, dear. In a gentle way you can shake the world, just like Gandhi said. An individual can stand up against meaningless traditions and start fighting to create positive changes. Soon you'll see the likeminded join you. And change will come.
Stupid caste system in India, totally evil.
@@fops1999 Country name or GTFO.
Has anyone in these communities wondered why there's no economic growth? I'm unsure if anyone of them have realized that collectively living together away from women makes it very difficult to build a better society. If you live with your wife or girlfriend, it can be motivational to do better financially while also having ownership of your own property. Growth through real estate is vital for any population. You cant do that when you're stuck outside in a building with 50 other men.
they live with their wives but unmarried men and women are separated.
@@ifenewsome505 They dont even live with their wives properly until a few years. Thatis just overkill. This whole tradition is overkill
From what I've just watched, they don't want to provide a good life for their wives. They believe wives are their slaves and are just there to wash their clothes, cook them food and have sex with. What a sad existence for these women.
That is what incels and right wingers one since they love to complain about women
@@bearsgaming6364It's not. It's perfect for India.
I am from the north India, same region they are reporting about, I denounce what the VICE has depicted of Baithak culture.
1. Baithak is not for separation of males and females, its the living room you fools. It severs for receiving visitors and gatherings
Baithak = Baithna +thankna, which literally means to sit after getting tired.
2. Indian houses generally have two rooms , one for sleeping n other is mostly used for storing foodgrains, appliances and other equipments in rural areas. You can easily see in the houses they have shown
3. North India has high temperature and people cant affort ac and so Baithak or living room is used for sleeping as it has open ventilation. As it is large area and you sleep with brothers and elders of the family ( even 5-10) in join families you get to talk , play, listen stories and experiences it is a very enjoyable and secure place to sleep. At 7:20 this is what the boy has said
There is gender segregation in Indian, but this is completely unrelated.
Disappointed from VICE
I live in India and i never saw this happening before. I was born in a city yet I have visited many villages and i never saw this happening in real life. Maybe this village, along with a few others are the only ones practicing such ideology.
People now wont support such ideologies anymore (Im talking about the new generation). I hope those who are practicing it realise how bad it is to separate people on the basis of gender and this practice soon shreds to dust.
Ye sb masala laga ke dikha rahe h
Imagine the frustration Kamla Bhasin faces everyday in her decades of gender study...
😂🤣😂🤣
It's not in rural India ...... it's only practiced in some rural parts of North India people from South India has never seen or even heard of these kind of practices
I'm in sri lanka and we have seperate schools for boys and girls. Probably the stupidest idea but this is sri lanka, where impossible is the trend 😅
This is great system, girls matures faster than boys and if they going together to school girls develop opinion about inmature men that later leads to lack of respect.
@@chanpasadopolska That's not true
@@chanpasadopolska They should be comfortable being with each other
That has nothing to do with why women don't respect you@@chanpasadopolska. 🙄
India too. It is probably not as unusual as we think. Although the majority of schools coming up in urban areas are mostly co-ed
For India to move forward these types of things gotta go. This only creates more hate and problems rather then eliminating them
No. This system should be the norm.
Gender segregation is common in Islam and Hindoo cultures . Its not a problem in only india. The situation of gender segregation is same here in Nepal Hindoo society. Come visit the Buddhist regions of Nepal and you won't see any gender segregation And the segregation is worst in Islamic nations like Pakistan, afghan
My only issue with this is that the space and practice put boys in vulnerable situation to be raped by older males. I am too from a traditional Muslim country and sexual assault against young males especially in schools is a very known taboo.
i mean, this is their own family tho
I have never understood why many 'religious Muslims' find young boys so attractive...
@@hemant05maybe partly due to them never seeing women and only being around males
There is a reason why the term "bacha baazi" exists.
What ever in village stays in village
Vice has many ideas about making videos about faults in India but no videos on mishandling of covid crisis or of the incest and adultery committed in the USA. Why vice?
🤣😂🤣😂
A. Because your R○na response and in■■st are worse....
Also B. THEY HAVE. Atleast the former, A LOT. You just don't pay attention and only listen when you're offended and want to cry about the US....
Trust me my friend they don’t need to make videos about the problems in the USA we already know them. Such a high percentage don’t even know they are being brainwashed and to scared to step outside.
Found the chindu tanatan dharmi
Two minutes silence for those who thinks that this is all true.
I am from mewat Trust me baithak is like a guest room and not all the villagers could afford to build a baithak as mewat is a very poor district.only few families in a village could afford to build baithaks. where many villagers could come to have some gossips.its basically a timepass room for older and younger people as most of the youth is unemployed.
All the men including younger and older could sleep in their homes.Thsi is all bullshit.
I used to believe everything thing that vice shows but now not anymore.
kuch bhi chal raha yaar it's really shameful
Thank you for saving me 17 minutes of my time lol, was about 10 seconds in and read your comment.
Thanks for keeping Vice honest! Also, what are men smoking in the community pipe?
You are right bro I am also from haryana and it's common in Haryanvi culture for time pass and gossips and playing cards
@@wavywoman1494 so you trust a random youtube comment over multiple peoples account told in this story? Lmao okay. No wonder people believe in election fraud when its not real
I agree with you that Western media tries to portray completely misunderstanding and misrepresent our tradition, practices and cultures as a whole but don't you think it's possible that this particular practice is limited to that particular Gaav or Tahluk ? There is a lot of diversity in India and you see some instances of a particular community or sect engaged in certain practices that the the same community only a few kilometres away may not indulge in.
These people seemed quite genuine in their interview so I'm just honestly asking. I don't condemn this tradition or anything. I think it does have its advantages as well as disadvantages.
If you have to fear that your wife or girlfriend will leave you for another person, then she never wanted to be with you in the first place.
Here, we have the concept of arranged marriage so betrayal is supposedly common and that's why measures to combat that
Typical radical feminist response to adultery : protect the adultress and pass downright vile, disgusting remarks against the innocent husband.
Your statement is wrong on so many levels : Men naturally are protective and prevent/ act as a sheild towards the opposite gender they have familial relationships or sexually involved with
We call this Singira in Kenya
Kenya is beautiful
Love some sangria
sindio bro... this happens here too i wonder why its so strange to western people
@@Hon_Ngure because it is 2021 and y'all let your beliefs keep you stuck in stone age
@@beco5002 😂😂🤣 I didn't see that coming
Thinking there must be a certain amount of homosexual practice its inevitable in places such as this...
Yes in all culture's
Yes im not saying it's ok because it's both genres as well it might not he allowed in other cultures but not to say it doesn't happen allowed or not sad but true...face facts the world is not evolving we are in actuality going backwards...not good!!!
This was so fascinating, such a detailed look into an obscure community culture. I loved how well-produced this was.
That's just one village cultures. And it was just in one district. You have no idea how big is India and how diverse is India. You cannot find this culture in next state or next district... Westerners must try to look in indian perspective than in there own
@@randomfighter2249 bruh how insecure are you? He just said that this was fascinating.
@@SRV1o1 what's so obscure about it? I get it it's fascinating they are seeing something different. I'm not insecure about anything. But the way foreign media show south Asia is what I don't like
@@randomfighter2249 What? you can request or suggest but not order people. lol
@@ignashi7plays401 what? Where's the order or tone of order in comment?
they deleted the previous video?
what was the video
How is this really any different than rich European’s who have ‘mens clubs’ where they play pool & smoke cigarettes?
While the girls go horse riding and drink white wine?
Because the men don't sleep at mens clubs and women are not required to stay at home?
Europeans don't live this way though, never heard genders to be separated or go to such clubs, it doesn't exist here
@@aurora6920
Yes it does especially in the upper classes.
Have you never heard of the term ‘it’s old boys club’.
@@yetanotherPC
Yes they do there is a long tradition of boys only schools & female only boarding schools.
They sometimes go home for the weekends etc.
Sure the structure may have small differences, but the basic principles are there.
You’ve obviously never been to India lmao
The only thing people are learning how to use huka, ciggrates 😂😂...
@Pajeet 🐮🍺 like 😒
What happened to the one u uploaded 30 mins ago
Didn't fit their narrative :D
@@vojtapro4843 why do you turds always think there’s a narrative? You really that lonely? 😂
@@TurdJesus 😂 I wear both sides say this, it's retarded
@@TurdJesus W-what do you think the word "narrative" means, turd?
Guys, i just wanted to know if theyre gonna reupload it, thats all. No need for wars.
10:19 , and this is the mindset we have to change....man , its too sad to see as someone who is getting education
you can have PHD and still have this mindset, its culture and religion that brainwash people something education can’t undo
@@joyboy6535 but the elders are not ready to hear , not all but some?
@@MONGER2007 its only a village so it doesn’t really matter tbh just let em do it
These grown "men" teach these young boys about lust and then segregate them to not act out on their impulses towards their mother and sisters....
I wonder how often child sexual abuse happens in these places
Those women have some self respect
?
Education solves so many problems. So sad
@Bedeutungslosigkeit lol ur saying anti vaxx protests are bad? The vaxx that has a no liability clause still in clinical trials, that is the least effective way to protect from covid? Chris rock caught covid despite have multiple doses and urges ppl to get vaxxed. Sheep like u need to stick to fortnite
Can we get another episode of *ONE STAR REVIEWS*
I wanted to like this comment… but it currently has 69 likes. I just cant do it.
@@mjriemen see someone ruined it
17:01 thank me later.
Thanks
thanks bro
@@Pizza_Pepperoni0 no problem i got u
Thanks man.
Thank you from the bottom from my heart
Sorry you’re not allowed in the house, hell I’m not allowed in the house. Who lives in the house? No one it’s empty…
Lol
Had me cracked.
😂😂😂
Sounds like an excuse to get away from their wives lol
I respecc it 😂😂
@oddist it was a joke you fucking geek
@@jackhcafc2595 I agree with the young fellow, you cardboard.
@oddist dude in the video says he is married and only goes home for 4 hrs then rest of the time hes spending at the group house.
The Baithak in the West is called the garden shed.
It a stupid practice literally hundreds of culture exist without baithak system and we don't see any disrespectfullness with each other its just comes to education give these people good education this system will eventually fade away
Teach young men that they are soldiers who are born to protect and guard. Don't tell them they're a animal that needs to be caged.
Don't like either option.
How about teaching them to understand their sexuality and not be afraid of it and just let them be who they want.
Is this really different from the British custom of sending children off to boarding schools? The concern to me is a lack of equity for males & females.
As an Indian this system is way worse ,
It’s kind of an insult that you are comparing this practice to getting a world class education (literally boarding schools in the uk are usually for the super rich, and not just British children either)
India is the home of the Kama Sutra. Now it propagates the 18th Century sexual and gender morality of their oppressors. That's the most ignorant thing about it.
(Although on my last visit, I noticed a lot of young folk picking up on and discussing that issue!)
No Stephanie it's not much different. Boarding schools for boys in Upper class Britain were breeding grounds for homosexual abuse among boys too.
I can't imagine what its like to sleep with several men from a third world country in the same room. I can already think of lice, body odor, feet odor, tobacco, body hair everywhere...etc
Well all i know is you aint gonna live long
farting ....
Wait until you join the military, kid.
That's racism
@@prathamsaxena9503 its called being aware of health hazards
Why is vice re-uploading their videos ?
9:07 You could use doors instead of that tradition 🤗
Or you can just stfu and leave them live
@@Aurelio_3906 They are living in misery. Are you suggesting we should let them live in misery?
@@Aurelio_3906 I presume your stance is the same regarding unborn children, masks, & vaccine mandates right? Or is ‘stfu & let them live’ a position you only extend to ethnic people? 🙄
@@Player-oe7zu No let’s go invade their country and start another useless 20 year war, trying to force democracy upon on a country that doesn’t want it.
@@Player-oe7zu Literally the argument westerner's make when they governments and their governments send their highly advanced military to places like the middle east and bomb innocents. Congrats!
No domestic violence, rape, revenge killings or incest. A british council shoukd take note
This is simply not true. You need to educate yourself about what truly happens in India in terms of domestic violence, rape, revenge killings and incest.
@@bc2280 in uk also sexual assault is common.
Remember what happen to shara
What about marital rape?
It's crime in UK not in our India
And India has high rate of domestic violence as compared to developed countries
Nd try to compare India with Sweden and Finland not with Afghanistan or Saudi Arabia only of then we can improve
10:55 what the heck kind of mountain masala dew is that?
That can be oil but your guess is as good as mine
Oil 😄
To lit up 'diya' in front of deity
I'd keep a bunch of video games and snacks in my Baithak.
😂😂😂
If you could afford them.
Last video went private 😢
This story can't possibly end well for the kids
How many times will you upload the same video?
The people in the comments should see the whole vedio,this tradition is rarely practiced,only in some villages or towns,and this vedio is overly exaggerated.
Maybe where you live. India is a big place.
Such misleading title..it might be happening in one or few part of rural India...not entire rural India.
May be happening in 1 village or taluk. But these guys are presenting as if it's happening in entire rural India
0:30 Does he also have to stop brushing his teeth after he gets married?
You mean tooth?
@@Simon-oy7kf It's more natural that way 🤗
@@Simon-oy7kf tooth is one teeth is many dmfb
@@johnlongtonguenogagreflex827 🤦🏿♂️
Homeless people living 2 minutes outside of Vice offices - go away no one cares about you.
Men and boys living together inside of a building in India -OMG this is so sad. Let’s interview this boy to see if he misses sleeping in the house.
Reality is a conspiracy to poos lol
Someone said vice is going to re-upload this video 7 more times
When I was younger I thought the whole arranged marriage thing in India was ridiculous and backward. Then I got out and did some living and now I have a completely opposite opinion. When you are in lust with someone you are the LAST person who is capable to make educated and sound life changing decisions as you truly are blinded by emotions. Your family is more trustworthy. They can see what you don’t see in your emotional state.
What if you are gay?
What if your family is abusive?
What if your spouse has some kind of.problem like alcoholism?
What if your spouse is abusive or have an affair?
@@prathamsaxena9503 I work with a lot of people from India and everyone I’ve talked to about it says that the final decision is up to you. You are by no means stuck with someone that they pick and that’s it. One guy I know told me that he and his now wife both went through a ton of other suitors before they met and got to know each other. For them it was more of the families introducing you to each other with you doing the rest. Obviously it’s not like that everywhere in India.
In the States, we call them "Garages" you work on cars and learn your virtues ect ect
Gun violence and rascism ✌️
@@antonio7497 lmao why you gotta undermine other people to feel good about your community. He just made a joke.
@@antonio7497 spot on👌
@@SRV1o1 why so serious?
@@antonio7497 So hows that environmental catastrophe, the Ganges, lookin these days?
Lot of my fellow Indians in denial up in here
Yeahh
Zero empathy. Think that just because they don’t see it, it doesn’t exist.
@@nonenone8655There's nothing wrong with this system. It's a good system.
This makes me so angry. Women AND men deserve better. This is bondage.
You must have uploaded this one like 4th time🤔
They want to juice the propganda, typical vice is known for.
@@AbhishekThakur-wl1pl propaganda? what? go back to your baithak
@@contambrah lol, I'm living in north India and I'm first time hearing this, and I'm sure 99% say the same. Quit with your bullsh*t.
@@AbhishekThakur-wl1pl where is the propaganda you were talking about?
Ok guys calm down, baithak exist, that majority in North India, but they are becoming ancient history and very hard to find!
Now days, Baithak simply means drawing room!!
I don't know much about this community so I am not making a call here.
I can't help but think that exposure to the opposite sex is the best way to remedy all the problems here.
Or you can learn to have some self control...
This is Indians we are talking about here
North India in itself is very diverse. I've never heard of anything like this in my North Indian State of Uttrakhand.
@albert einstien Diversity doesn't come from having more number of people. China has about 1.5 billion people and Mexico about 120 Million but most people will agree that Mexico has more diversity than China.
So, how do they handle it if a man still, even with these precautions, becomes a rapist or commits incest?
"Hmm, must've been the wind"
Great question Yakk13, I hope u get a truthful answer. 🙏🏻😶
Exactly. Like it happens in US.
the reason why there's gender segregation is to keep women safe.
Wow the comments moderation on this video is super tight and biased. As soon as I used the word Islam in the comment it got deleted in 10 secs. Even though I didn't use any hate speech just stated facts about why villages in North West India imported these traditions and what pushed them in the last 1000 years.
Hello I am from North India. There is no custom like this. There are still a few baithaks where men play cards and enjoy hukka but not like segregation. In muslim families in a few districts, I think they follow this system. Vice is not that much vice.
In Sindh, men hang out in othaks. Is it the same reasoning?
Perhaps
Hanging out and living are quite different. Otaks are more of a privacy measure. Sindhi men do not live in their otaks.
@@ibraheemabro1978 Thanks. That’s what I wanted to know. It didn’t feel like they lived there. But the names sound kind of similar and both Sindh and Rajasthan are in the same region, so I was just wondering. But Thank you.
Othak baithak 😜
I don't understand why are boys kept separate from their homes.. As if the rape victim is inside their own house.. or is it like a boys school, where they teach boys something..
What they're doing doesn't make any rational sense, it's straight up discrimination against boys by forcing them to stay outside of their home and it's discrimination against women by forcing them to wear ridiculous outfits and by applying various other restrictions
no wonder they don’t know how to treat a woman.
Ya western Christian
Who love to gave a tag to other country.
Vice already said that it is one of the few village
This is modern slavery. Terrible.
Vice news, when positively absolutely want to be misled and learn a skewed facts taken out of context, we have vice news to fill that urge.
Its called *multiculturalism*
Yet here you are, watching it.
Your comment would be much more effective if you pointed out one or two things that are misleading, and show why. Your statement is pretty redundant (aren’t “skewered facts,” “misleading” or “taken out of context” pretty much a repetition of the same thing?), so you have the space. Otherwise you just look like an angry dude who just screams “fake news” at every reality they dislike, but with no logic behind it.
Yes in our school girls and boys are separated, I don't know why 🤨
Pretty sad situation for women everywhere
Oh yeah what ya gonna do call feminazi police
How
Eastern and southern India is different and i don't think things like this exists there, may be some other problems but ghunghat and baithak i guess not
@Rajnasya baithak western india ka concept hai bhai
It's all to avoid rape basically
Well considering India's massive rape problem, it's clearly having the opposite effect.
@@luns486 I don't believe in western media seriously.
They also tell us about iraqi WMD.
Now they are running behind china and india.
@Kim Boom Joong you can be a superpower and have rapes.
why does vice have so many dislikes on like normal videos? ppl hate too much for no reason
If this system wasn't beneficial to men, would it still be happening?
Man you people are so divisive and sexist it’s disgusting. Since you know how it’s beneficial to men then go ahead and explain it to us? You’re more than likely just saying something you feel without any logical thought behind it, which is very typical these days lol.
Well of course not lmao it was put in place for a reason
Something new I'm learning today.... The State where I came from ( Maharashtra) doesn't have such system... Even in villages...
Pls show the taliban gender segregation too,
😂🤦
Sacchai se najare hatana kya tumhe behtar insan banayega ?
I am from south India ...this veil thing is alien to us ..so as for North East india. India is very diverse don't generalize.
That's Bcz Muslim invasions were not so successful in South India. In North India we also didn't had the veil thing until Islamists with their honour and Burkha culture arrived we are a warm country and People dressed accordingly and also child marriage etc were mostly started in practice during Islamic era only. And sati also got more prevalent.
And I am more than sure that this practice is also the result of the same..
@@Sahil-ie3ie yes... you are right
Being from mewat i want to convey this system is not that compulsory or obligate
Its a choice
So many choices for that 11 year old boy 😂 don’t fooling yourself
11:44 This system is created by the affluent who imprison their women.
Boom! In a place like India it is easier to say such things without beating around the bush.
Nice way to twist the whole concept and tarnish the culture
i m watching this in my bethak at 9o clock , in haryana india
I love that guys 1 shiny tooth! Awe-inspiring
Why did the computer go to the dentist?
It had Bluetooth
More like inspiring.
Really? Awe inpiring?
It looks in good condition as well. I dunno what he said because I was staring at the tooth lol
My friend Zomeck from Kerela said he was bragging that he never spent a rupee on dental floss!
I am from a village in Bihar and this thing is not even followed here.
Wtf is this, I've lived in small city of Gujrat my whole life and we don't have this type of arraignment
Are you dumb??
Just because you didn’t see it doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist.
It should be more common. Even in cities.
13:25 ah yes absolutely true men are taught to be sexually attracted to women 😂
still the most populated country 😁rules aren't strict enough 😄
Same delusional comment....
India is diverse....
now if you have more than 2 kids you are not eligible for government job....even society ridicule such peoples....
So frustrating and so controlling. Avoiding situations does NOT prevent situations and “thoughts”. Only encourages it if you ask me.
That is not the claim.
The claim is that avoiding situations, DECREASES the chances of situations occurring.
You can't stop things but you can try...
As a gay man, I'm not sure if living in an all male house would be a good or a bad thing 🤷🏼♂️
Why are you gay?
@@hirogochitomayto7018 I have an insatiable desire for male attention
@@azurescenss OK that's pretty gay
I like the idea of boys learning from men but the trouble comes with the pedophiles and their acceptance in the community.
Why do brothers and sisters, and brother-in-laws and sister-in-laws, and mothers and sons need to be seperate? I'm so confused.
My sister and I shared a bedroom with our brothers until our early teens when our parents purchased a three bedroom home. They're literally my brothers - we have the same parents. There was nothing weird about sharing space with your own siblings.
It's not a large area phenomenon. I live a 2 hour from this area. And lived my Early years with my sister. Also went to combined gender schools and one of my best friend were girls. My sister is now a doctor. And I am Math and computing student.and I lived in a village.
Gender equality is still a farcry in my area though.Some people still spent
more on boys studies. Also boys have more independence like curfew
time,more leninancy if done a mistake.It's not better place for uneducated women. As one of my paternal aunt(uneducated) said to her daughter that if u want a dignified and equal life. She should study hard and get independent.
Where this happen I never see like this in my 21 year life as an Indian