Why Are Singaporean Men So Creepy? | TDK Podcast #67
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- Опубликовано: 2 фев 2022
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I’m excited whenever a new podcast is posted, love your work! :)
In Korea the phone always make a sound louder than 65 decibels when a photo is taken. This was also done to curb spy shots and boost privacy.
I think Singapore should also implement this method
There was this guy who was with his wife and witnessed a creep taking upskirt videos of another lady. The wife dragged the husband away cos she dont want to confront the creep. The creep got away.
The husband felt so guilty afterwards, for not taking any action, and posted the encounter on reddit. A redditor commented,
'wah if the creep wanted to take picture of pussies, he should have taken a picture of you instead'
so yeah, thanks for pointing out to not be passive in such situations.
We won't even be having this conversation if the subject in discourse is a caucasian.
I was once called a pervert for taking a video of a 3 year old girl bursting into dance at Sentosa spontaneously except that girl is my daughter. Damn my skin colour.
In South Korea, it’s the law for all smartphones to have the camera sound on (from the factory). It can’t be turned off. So this situation is avoided
I thought it is Japan lol
@@kingseiryu929 Yes its Japan that mandated it first and S.K started to introduced the law after the surge in such crimes
Long story short, i complained to the drinks store that someone was smoking while seated in the coffeeshop in front of a no smoking sign.
The staff told him to go outside to smoke, but his friend saw me complaining.
He was furious after being told by staff to go out to smoke, and he found out it was me, he started talking out loud to intimidate me by saying "nvm i take photo" then he whipped out his phone and took a photo of me and said out loud again "i sent to all my friends, see how you die, they see you outside will settle you".
So i called the police, and the police told me 1. it is not illegal to take photos of people. unless it is sexual in nature.
2. There is no way of charging him for threat, because its just words, unless you feel there is strong evidence that he is serious about carrying out the threat.
I just find it ridiculous.
1. If someone directly takes a photo of you while threatening you and you still cannot charge him for anything, then i think the law is a joke. You took my photo and you explicitly state what you wanted to do with it, isnt that intent?
2. Is like saying, if i shout in public "im gonna bomb this place" and expect to get away with it. I can argue, i say say only what, no intent. You can prove that i was really gonna do it meh?
Dan, you're absolutely right that we should teach the kids what to do if they are in such situations..totally agree! Everyone knows right/wrong, and it's so easy to say that I would have done this IF it happened to me.. but when it actually happens, freezing up is usually the thing to do lol.
This happened to me before in sec 3 when I was molested by an older man on the empty bus after school. I was too afraid to shout so I just moved away. Female imposter syndrome is also real cos I didnt' dare to report it after that for fear that people would laugh at me thinking it '"couldnt have happened to you".
If taking photos of someone in a public space isn't even illegal in the first place, then what's the point of talking about confronting, detaining, checking for evidence, reporting, etc?
You guys should do an episode on the science of morality!
JP having a LOT of fun in this ep ah 😂
Graze your anatomy.... omg that was so original and funny !! Lol brilliant
Women shld have the right to qn if photos are taken of them.
BUT they should *sincerely* apologise to the 'suspect' if they're wrong...that's fair exchange.
The thing is, there's no law in SG against the taking of photos of other people around you. Unless it is an upskirt or downblouse photo that is considered as outraging one's modesty. By using physical force to snatch the alleged perp's phone, you can ironically be charged. The alleged perp can call the police on you, and he/she might very well do so if he/she is innocent and you blow up the situation.
Taking upskirt or downblouse photos is explicitly illegal but it would be an offence of voyeurism, not outrage of modesty. The latter is molestation and typically covers cases of non-penetrative sexual assault.
Taking such photos may also constitute as insult of modesty. In fact, voyeurism is a relatively new offence and was only added to the Penal Code in 2020. Before that, perpetrators of such crimes (taking sexually explicit photos/videos of women without consent) were usually charged for insulting a woman's modesty.
@@Zach-wv8pz
Ridiculous law..
taking a photo of women without consent in a general view is not a crime.
Whenever I feel like someone is looking at me in a weird manner, I will stare at them. Challenge them & usually the guilty person will look away
i not guilty i also will look away cuz you're weird.
Pretty sure an innocent person would too cause they'd be trying to avoid starting something for no reason
Love is in the air
@Angie MF
Would love to see you try that in Malaysia and Thailand.. 👍🏻
I will stare back and try to imagine how our future kids would look like
In response to Jon Paul’s question about how people act on these ideas. I think many of them are sex addicts who have impaired sense of self control. People often crave for a greater high to the extent that online material is not enough anymore and they have to seek it in real life. It’s something often built up over YEARS to get to that point.
Wasn't there a girl who confronted a dude in the gym for taking video of her when he was just watching Mr Bean.
So don't straight go confrontational attitude first. if wrong sibei paiseh sia, don't assume and ask neutrally for him to prove he is not first, next, if its not of the perverse nature aka upskirt etc kind, i believe a lot of people dun know that it's illegal to take video/picture of others, so ask them to delete first. if they aggressive against proving they didn't do it, or it's perverse or they just don't want to delete then it's time to get aggressive and call the cops.
Also a lot of people who do these pervy stuff have underlying psychological problems so what you should do if you catch your friend/partner is to set an ultimatum, psychological counselling in exchange for not reporting. If they relapse then report.
Maybe The Daily Ketchup crew can talk about it on the same note?
Comments like these are the exact reason why Jon said what he said in 19:13 onwards. Girls are afraid to report.
And for that case. She did mentioned that there were multiple girls who were complaining about the same man who was "watching Mr Bean".
Not illegal
Denise making the sound effects after the intro = me
LOL
24:00 great advice on Situational Awareness! i learnt something new!
Always lookin forward to new episodes! Best companion for mothers with newborn n need to wakeup to pump n feed baby :)
I dont really agree with dan's gf on her point that if someone accidentaly "grazes" your butt once, that you should immedeately confront the person. i think you should take several things into account, such as the age and gender of the person, how crowded said public transport is, if the road was shaky etc and the number of times it happened. Although there are some rotten seeds out there, people should still be given the benefit of doubt. because imagine if it was a fairly young boy, maybe in secondary school or smth. and he honestly, just accidentally grazed your butt. You, just assuming he did so deliberately, making a scene and confronting him in public would honestly scar the poor boy for life. Which is why the law is always innocent until proven guilty. Because falsely accusing someone of somthing they've not done, in addition to that, in a public setting, is wildly traumatising and unjust. just my 2 cents. never assume, always think rationally be very sure before you roll a dice like that.
I feel Dan's worry.
Even when playing mobile game I will put some volume even on the MRT.
But not like some uncles who blast volume at max.
Grazed your anatomy! Eh it was damn good! Why no love for Dan!
Why do I get dejavu watching this
14:22 never censor haha
singapore society is very gender biased here. I see alot of girls taking photos of guys wearing singlets, you know those muscley guys, big muscles, 6 packs and all that. But guys dont go confronting the girls, why? because it is "OK". Society expects that a guy should not be offended if a girl takes their photo secretly.
Society does not expect that. That shit is weird regardless. I dont know whether thats something u made up unconsciously or purposely but it just isnt true man
@@dylan-nk5lh it's kinda true imo, I've seen a girl friend of mine taking pics of a guy she found cute in a restaurant and when I called it out they said "it's fine cuz she isn't sexualising them or anything" and the others just ignored it.
@@dylan-nk5lh Unfortunately we do to some extent. Back in my poly days, my male pals and I were frequently subjected to unwanted touching and lewd remarks by female classmates, in public view. Nobody gives a damn and people even laughed and joked about it. It is as though consent is an unilateral concept.
Male modesty has historically been sidelined, even today. I've lost count of the number of times a female janitor brazenly enters the male toilet unannounced and starts cleaning while I'm still standing in front of the urinal. You'll never see a male janitor enter a female toilet in such an inconsiderate way.
Most sexual offences were only made gender-neutral in 2020. Some, like r@p€, still remain gendered and only accord protection to women and girls.
the hosts are bias and just want to make content that are PC. they only care about ad revenue without caring about the consequences of increasing distrust and fear mongering with their statement.
Sexual harassment is never objective. It's considered harassed when someone felt harassed. So if guys felt harassed, then yes, otherwise, it's not considered.
So yes, rules or laws about sexual harassment itself have too many grey area.
That being said, predators or "innocent" predators have many ways to stay in the white zone and not enter the grey area. So there's no excuse
Deleted photos & videos within seconds on the phone can still be located in the "deleted folder" within the phone.
Taking photos in public places
Organizations are exempted from the requirement to obtain consent in respect of the collection, use and disclosure of personal data that is publically available. If an individual’s photo is taken when the individual is at an event or location that is open to the public, taking a photo of that individual is likely to be regarded as a collection of personal data that is publically available, for which consent is not required. A location that is “open to the public” is one with few or no restrictions on who can enter or access the location. However the Guidelines note that there can be “private spaces within public spaces” and the mere fact that members of the public may look into the premises does not make it public.
You need to invite Dr. Martha Lee.
For Denise and her friend's situation, I was thinking take a photo of the guy taking a photo of her friend, for evidence lol
Photoception.
graze your anatomy 🤣
Certain mistakes are not forgivable. It may be a minor mistake but still it can lead to a tremendous damage.
People actually think that they might not be caught. Have you read about the 2 criminals who got caught? If they both confessed they will get a shorter sentence but if one lied and did not get caught they will be released. BOTH actually lied (thinking they will not get caught) and served the longer sentence.
on the flip side should there be a harsher punishment for false accusations as well?
had an ex who took up skirt photos of their mom & sister, and also up skirts of my female friends back in poly. none of them consented, and was filmed in bathrooms whenever these ladies went to do their business or shower. video had the perpetrator’s face in it as proof bc they would set up the camera facing them then leave the room, yet when brought to police they issued a warning letter and let them go. i won’t ever forgive SPF and how lightly they treat these cases bc my friends now have to live with being paranoid of being in toilets. ofc i broke up w the idiot after finding out. always be careful and honestly even if want to report to police, they also won’t care. us ladies don’t have much hope in SG for s*xual harassment cases like these.
got proof? should ask authorities track down your ip, bring you in front of COI and check if what you said is true or just fear mongering.
@peepee poopoo
Something tells me that you must be very poor in the bedroom department for your ex to have to resort to that in order to satisfy his needs. 😄
@@Callsign-Blade_RunnerSG did you miss the point of the video
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@@Callsign-Blade_RunnerSG I know this is one year ago case. But it has nothing wrong in the victim side. It is always mental disorder or skewed thoughts on the perpetrator side.
Then again, there’s the issue of girls being over sensitive and blame innocent guys. Such as the guy who was watching Mr Bean and ended up getting shamed. Had his friend not stood up for him, the guy would have been branded as a creep for no reason. Then should girls be equally shamed (apprehended) for doing such thing?
Graze your anatomy LMAO
grey's anatomy
Dan at 2:35 was fucking funny LMAO
He’s so cute HAHA WE HAVE TO PROTECT HIM AT ALL COSTS
I'm would suggest the ladies to choose your battle.
If you are in a public place and there are people around you, you can ask for help or alert others when you realize the person is taking your photo.
If you are alone in a place, and you find the man really creepy, you might want to just walk away once you realize he is taking your photo. Because if it's not upskirt photo, you really have nothing to lose. Confronting the person might be dangerous in that kind of situation.
Can u guys do an episode on nft
u can't do anything if u suspect someone takes foto of u. its illegal to snatch anothers property. it can't be proven.
In a difference scene what if you find out your partner doing illegal stuff to make money/provide for the family . What would you do .
Can you guys talk more regarding people taking random videos of others and posting it on social media, asking the public to find that person (thinking that it’s sweet). I kinda find that disrespectful and breaking boundaries
this is what foreign men think of women that take video of men, based on the SG TikTok video of the gym guy getting complained about ruclips.net/video/rVb7BmRPbKc/видео.html
That guy had a gf. He said that he was there at the beach with his gf. And the gf was sitting nearby...thats why the girl said that line.
#bringcastrationback
Who is the guest?
Not a creep, but I will like 😬
Creeps..... UNITE!
14:20 my man got real nervous there
Isn't sending stuff through email more dangerous? And which idiot will do that sia
maybe just ridiculously long jail terms of decades or something, since outrage of modesty is undeniably an intentional crime (unlike murder/manslaughter and assault/self-defense which are relatively more grey)
@Guiishow2
If that’s the case than there will be little to no Men left walking the streets of Singapore because the majority of them would already be in jail. 😂
@@Callsign-Blade_RunnerSG maybe we should also kill all humans bcos they don't deserve to live for harming the environments. Why do u continue to breathe when u do such deeds
The guy without the cap double standard sia. He should be aware of his biases.
Wait did it go through
FURST FIRST FIRSTXYHC
Eeeeeeeh got any gaijin or not 😏
13:17 Beep it Beep it Beep it Beep it
14:23 How fuck up
Taking photo of strangers is just weird in the first place.
algo teammm
Are you guys going to do an episode called "Why are Singaporean Girls so Perfect?"
JP is fucking funny
YAH he fucking funny these few eps!!
They got no game.
first!!! wohooo
By law cannot bring knife around hais
Taking general photos in public is not a crime. If people feel it's uncomfortable for people to take photo of them, then avoid those places. Go for gyms that have a no-mobiles rule. Go to private beaches. Call the police instead of snatching the phone. Snatch theft is a crime. Spreading unfounded stories only increase skepticism and make people distrust each other.
Just tell off that guy in the MRT by saying " Did u just brushed my butt?" With no shame. Being thick skinned, wins all the time.
only liked this because im a creep
Few years ago, after watching the K-drama "Descendants of the Sun". Someone mention in a forum, the difference between "flirting" and "sexual harassments" depend on the the guy looks. If an ugly guy tried the flirting method used by the actor. He will definitely be seen as sexual harassment.
because it depends on if the action is wanted. If the girl finds you attractive and wants you to approach her then it's not harassment. If the girl does not want anybody to approach her, regardless if the guy is handsome or ugly, it's still harassment.
Two years ago, a lady approached me and told me she was robbed and needed help, I told her not my problem and walk off to be honest I didn't know being a jerk can be felt so good LOL!!! no regret of doing that...
#BringCastrationBack LOL
#CUTKUKUJIAO 🤣🤣🤣
Since now its the rise of feminism, why not talk about how guy should react or do when we are always being spoonfeed by all the xmm with skimpy clothes or trying to showoff their bodies, isn't this a form or sexual hijack to guys?
its creepy to them if you are not Chad enough for them, if Henry Cavill looks at them they are happy and wish everyday can have them stare but any other average guy looks at them its a crime. they want their cake and eat it too. hence why Japan has so many men that are following the Herbivore lifestyle and so many Western men are following the MGTOW/REDPILL lifestyle because its more calming to live a Single life than deal with women.
#BringCastrationBack
Requesting for listeners to do the intro saying, "Welcome to delhi ketsuuuppp..." once in a while ;) Like if you agree
Waa sad.. tattoo girl is imprinted by alpha chad who she can’t get over before… but would report the current partner and act differently if it was her child. Dayum
#doublestandards
ok boomer like what even is the point you're trying to make here tho
Do you think "Why are Singaporean Men So Creepy" is a reasonable title to post on RUclips and slander the whole population with?
Yes
If you see the comments liked by the channel "#bringcastrationback", it's obvious the channel manager has some inherent misandry
Yes I agree that is an extreme title and not very objective.
Don’t generalise all pls. We don’t see our minorities doing things like this so often.
Dont want people to take their picture and Yet uploads thousands upon thousands of picture objectifying themselves, there isnt much difference. one is direct vs the other indirect but both result is the same.
Lets do a vote, FOR CASTRATION VS AGAINST CASTRATION, this should be interesting.
FOR
AGAINST
#bringcastrationback