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  • Опубликовано: 4 июл 2024
  • #Saiyans #Frieza #Bardock
    The title says it all. What if The Saiyans organized a revolution against Frieza? This includes the strongest saiyans prior to Goku and Vegeta rising to prominence in Dragon Ball Z. This video focuses on the saiyans of the past like Bardock, King Vegeta, Paragus and more to see if they would realistically stand a chance of revolting against Emperor Frieza. This anime and manga related video also considers outside fan theories about Dragon Ball to analyze and explain each aspect of this topic.
    Artist: tkgsize

Комментарии • 269

  • @Karma-dy8xc
    @Karma-dy8xc Месяц назад +90

    Even Namekians if they led a revolution against Frieza would’ve had a way better chance than the Saiyans

    • @XZAVIER-DAA-GOD
      @XZAVIER-DAA-GOD Месяц назад +7

      @@Karma-dy8xc they were already killing themselves and Frieza ended up killing them and Their planet as well

    • @schemar17
      @schemar17 Месяц назад +9

      The namekians would have kiled freiza, the son of katas was already stronger than freiza. Then you have lord slug and other namekians

    • @BrandonScott-mi5pz
      @BrandonScott-mi5pz Месяц назад +1

      GREAT QAAMAN SAIYAN REVOLUTION AGAINST FRIEZA VIDEO.

    • @Diamondr11Blue
      @Diamondr11Blue Месяц назад

      Good thing they didn't

    • @TheraVoltCupping
      @TheraVoltCupping Месяц назад +2

      The namekians shouldve fused together and defeated freiza

  • @Mandalore_ultimate
    @Mandalore_ultimate Месяц назад +88

    If King Vegeta didn't exile Broly to Vampa they would've had a chance

    • @mr.patriotjol
      @mr.patriotjol Месяц назад +27

      True. But then we had to worry about Frieza killing Broly if he ever went crazy and caused a concern dude to Broly not controlling his power at an early age

    • @XZAVIER-DAA-GOD
      @XZAVIER-DAA-GOD Месяц назад +8

      @@Mandalore_ultimate then he would of killed all of them as well

    • @Mandalore_ultimate
      @Mandalore_ultimate Месяц назад +5

      @@XZAVIER-DAA-GOD It's either that or be completely wiped out by Frieza lol

    • @odiseusprime3698
      @odiseusprime3698 Месяц назад +4

      ​@@mr.patriotjolcould just make a collar for him to keep his powers in check

    • @44TKO
      @44TKO Месяц назад +3

      They should’ve been training and learned how to control their power. They trash for not living up to what they could’ve done.

  • @DealsFS
    @DealsFS Месяц назад +33

    The saiyans could never beat Frieza because they're all a bunch of frauds who never self improved because they just went around fighting dudes who were far weaker then them.

    • @godemperorofmankind3.091
      @godemperorofmankind3.091 Месяц назад +4

      goku changed the game. he landed on exactly the right planet. he was weak enough that he had to learn to train and improve to survive, was not crazy so he was able to learn new stuff, and showed the other saiyans it was possible to hide and control one's ki. once vegeta learns how to do that, the pieces fall into place. otherwise they all would have been stuck under freeza forever

    • @k1llsh0t_87
      @k1llsh0t_87 Месяц назад +1

      ​@@godemperorofmankind3.091it has nothing to do with Goku needing to get stronger, it's just that he's always enjoyed it, I'm sure even if he was born with a power level of 1k and was sent to earth he still would've trained and gotten stronger

  • @XZAVIER-DAA-GOD
    @XZAVIER-DAA-GOD Месяц назад +49

    5k for King Vegeta is too low that's like saying he's the same strength as Nappa

    • @odiseusprime3698
      @odiseusprime3698 Месяц назад +20

      Pretty sure he was above 10k

    • @XZAVIER-DAA-GOD
      @XZAVIER-DAA-GOD Месяц назад +8

      @@odiseusprime3698 he was 11k

    • @EndoScorpion
      @EndoScorpion Месяц назад +9

      Yeah as far as I'm aware Vegeta and his father (King Vegeta) were the only two Super Elites. There were less than a dozen Mid-tier Saiyans (around Nappa's level). And the rest were low-tier (Raditz level).

    • @aysh1321
      @aysh1321 Месяц назад +4

      King Vegeta >= Bardock

    • @UnexpectedWonder
      @UnexpectedWonder Месяц назад +8

      Exactly!!! Vegeta was 18,000. His Pops had to be @ least 10,000.

  • @Highball1417
    @Highball1417 Месяц назад +24

    You know there's literally no videos about Piccolo's character development in Dragon Ball, from the Nameless Namekian to Orange Piccolo and I don't think there's anyone out there better to do it than you.

  • @SpammytheHedgehog
    @SpammytheHedgehog Месяц назад +41

    The Saiyans will still lose. Unless they go through years of intense training.

  • @Bbslushieee
    @Bbslushieee Месяц назад +31

    ive never understood how 0 of the sayians found out that training will give them insane power boosts, especially in the early stages. further more sayians get stronger as they fight, how have they not sparred with eachother continuously and became drastically stronger. even if they dont hit frieza level there should be a few ginyus in the sayian force

    • @mr.patriotjol
      @mr.patriotjol Месяц назад +9

      They probably didn’t want to worry about getting exiled or killed by King Vegeta.

    • @mr.patriotjol
      @mr.patriotjol Месяц назад +8

      Plus the class system sorta made them think they their class affected their power levels

    • @princeindisguise
      @princeindisguise Месяц назад +6

      Saiyans get stronger if they are beaten near to death and recover from it.
      Also The saiyans did fight each other. But it was because they love to fight, not to get stronger.

    • @விஷ்ணு_கார்த்திக்
      @விஷ்ணு_கார்த்திக் Месяц назад +6

      I mean, eating healthy and exercising would make humans happier and help them live a longer life and yet most humans don't seem to be doing that. Sometimes, people are their own worst enemies lol

    • @lordMartiya
      @lordMartiya Месяц назад +3

      Apparently, their concept of training was based on simply learning skills and cardio and let fighting experience do the rest (similar to the rest of the Frieza Force, really). Let's remember that Vegeta never trained to increase his power until AFTER Namek, when Goku's immense improvement forced him to face it was in fact possible for a low class Saiyan to surpass even him just by training, and even then his training was pretty much a saner take on Goku's gravity training en route to Namek (saner because without access to senzu, healin pods, or a willing healer he couldn't bring himself to the brink of death to stack a zenkai on top of the training results and accelerate recovery) up until WHIS taught him how to train himself.

  • @HebiSaru21
    @HebiSaru21 Месяц назад +18

    I tapped so fast it was private the first time i got notificed of the video lmao

    • @QaamansLand
      @QaamansLand  Месяц назад +9

      There was an error in the video I had to correct.

    • @HebiSaru21
      @HebiSaru21 Месяц назад +2

      ​@@QaamansLand
      No worries and love yur content
      Enough to know this wasn't the first time it was posted 🥹🤣

  • @lordMartiya
    @lordMartiya Месяц назад +8

    Frieza decided to slay the Saiyan when he did because he knew that they didn't have any chance YET and wasn't stupid enough to give them one.
    Sure, Beerus may have told him to do it, but even without him Frieza wasn't stupid enough to take the chance, all Beerus did was to get him to act a couple years earlier AT MOST.

    • @UnexpectedWonder
      @UnexpectedWonder Месяц назад +1

      Exactly!!! 👊👊✊✊👏👏👌👌 I left a more detailed Comment. Look @ what happened with Son Goku, Vegeta, and Broly. Then, look @ what happened with Gohan, Goten, and Trunks. Frieza made the right call. He saw what happened with him and his Dad. He probably accounted for the growth over the past two Generations of Saiyans.

  • @bofasofa9399
    @bofasofa9399 Месяц назад +15

    Hey Qaaman, Bardock was at 10k before his final two zen-kai boosts actually. They said "Bardock has never been higher than 10k" (Meaning in the past). After Bardock almost got destroyed by Dodoria, he had already had a zen-kai from that planet with the future-telling species. He was likely at 15k when he fought dodoria, and then he was likely at 20-22k when he confronted Frieza.

    • @lilmac3788
      @lilmac3788 Месяц назад +8

      good point; a lot of people overlook the intricacies of dragon ball since they go so deep beyond a surface level

    • @QaamansLand
      @QaamansLand  Месяц назад +6

      Still doesnt change my point though right even if what you are saying is true

    • @zs1337btw
      @zs1337btw Месяц назад +4

      Yep, this is true and it would have been cool to see Bardock sparring a young Vegeta or something since kid vegeta was roughly 10k at the time

    • @bofasofa9399
      @bofasofa9399 Месяц назад +2

      @@QaamansLand Correct, it does not change your point but it does change what you said about his power

    • @QaamansLand
      @QaamansLand  Месяц назад +5

      I double checked. That was a dub only line

  • @lucidmind9676
    @lucidmind9676 Месяц назад +7

    Started watching earlier and was so confused when my RUclips app randomly closed and when I reopened it, I couldn’t find the video 😂

    • @QaamansLand
      @QaamansLand  Месяц назад +3

      There were two editing errors I fixed

  • @SansINess53
    @SansINess53 Месяц назад +5

    King vegeta is stated somewhere I don't remember tho, but is around 10K as well.

    • @reptilian_geneticist
      @reptilian_geneticist Месяц назад +5

      The doctors stated that Bardock's power level is approaching 10,000, and that at this rate he may even surpass the strength of King Vegeta... So this means that King Vegeta was between 10k bare minimum and 17k because Vegeta said that he had surpassed his father as a child....

    • @XZAVIER-DAA-GOD
      @XZAVIER-DAA-GOD Месяц назад

      He's 11k

    • @XZAVIER-DAA-GOD
      @XZAVIER-DAA-GOD Месяц назад

      @@reptilian_geneticist Kid Vegeta was 11k and kid Vegate was 12k

  • @CZPC
    @CZPC Месяц назад +9

    King Vegeta was stated stronger than Bardock. He said "approaching king vegetas power level" or something to that effect. Also makes zero sense he would be weaker than Nappa at FP (who was fighting base form Goku effectively once his head was cooled by Vegeta)

    • @QaamansLand
      @QaamansLand  Месяц назад +2

      That's a dub only line

    • @ChrisDeVarro
      @ChrisDeVarro Месяц назад +4

      King vegeta is 10,000 plus as far as saiyan potential King vegeta wouldn't be 5,000

    • @aysh1321
      @aysh1321 Месяц назад +6

      @@QaamansLand King Vegeta at 5k makes no sense bro...

    • @CZPC
      @CZPC Месяц назад +2

      ​@@QaamansLand
      No it's not?

    • @metal42
      @metal42 27 дней назад

      ​@@CZPCyes it's dyb only, in the subs it's just stated that Bardock is almost 10,000

  • @shivendra3019
    @shivendra3019 Месяц назад +4

    If The RUclipsrs Organized A Revolution Against UNFAIR Copyright Strikes

  • @ralphsoul007
    @ralphsoul007 Месяц назад +3

    It will be cool to see goku and vegeta in their father's clothes

  • @iDivinity117
    @iDivinity117 Месяц назад +1

    I'm genuinely surprised people even thought this was possible. It feels like one of those death battles that someone is like "wouldn't this be cool" but as soon as you but a little bit of thought into it, the idea crashes under very obvious results.

    • @robertrainford6754
      @robertrainford6754 Месяц назад

      You do realize with the sayian nature and there ability’s that frieza even being a threat is actually a plot hole right? Just saying when Akira wrote the zenki boost and how powerful goku and vegeta got on namik he wrote himself into a corner.

  • @ojpickle5923
    @ojpickle5923 Месяц назад +7

    Alright take 3

  • @XZAVIER-DAA-GOD
    @XZAVIER-DAA-GOD Месяц назад +4

    I woulder if they did become ssj and then they could also go into great apes at the same time how they would stack against Freiza

  • @MelloWyatt
    @MelloWyatt Месяц назад +3

    The Super Saiyan God Ritual would be the only way

  • @UnexpectedWonder
    @UnexpectedWonder Месяц назад +4

    Frieza and King Cold understood the Real Threat: Potential. It's genetic advancement. Look what happened with Son Goku, Vegeta, and Broly. Frieza saw what he was compared to his Dad. Then, you see Gohan, Goten, and Trunks. It was the Future Threats. The Saiyans likely had grown significantly over the past two Generations.

    • @gabrielcote8211
      @gabrielcote8211 Месяц назад

      That might be a factor too. We know that Vegeta surpassed his father rather early into his life, and then Goku and Vegeta's own children have easily surpassed the levels their fathers had reached at their age (Gohan became Gohan Beast at the same age that Goku first turned into a Super Saiyan, that's pretty nuts). So yeah, the Saiyan soldiers of a few decades prior were likely far less powerful to a point where Raditz would probably look like a prodigy compared to them.

  • @nostalgianetwork1225
    @nostalgianetwork1225 Месяц назад +6

    I heard at one point that King Vegeta's PL was around 20,000. Cant remember where tho

    • @reptilian_geneticist
      @reptilian_geneticist Месяц назад +2

      You didn't hear that anywhere because it's wrong and never stated in any official material... The doctors stated that Bardock's power level is approaching 10,000, and that at this rate he may even surpass the strength of King Vegeta... So this means that King Vegeta was between 10k bare minimum and 17k because Vegeta said that he had surpassed his father as a child....

    • @XZAVIER-DAA-GOD
      @XZAVIER-DAA-GOD Месяц назад +1

      @@reptilian_geneticist King Vegeta is 11k and kid Vegate was 12k

  • @Sonicfalcon16
    @Sonicfalcon16 Месяц назад +1

    Watching this I kinda want a DBS arc of the revived saiyan strike back kind of story

  • @poleag
    @poleag Месяц назад +1

    There are two things in this video that you touched which might explain why Frieza had a reason to fear the Saiyans: spies and scouters. Espionage. See, if Frieza had spies in the nurseries/incubation areas of Planet Vegeta and we take the events of the Bardock movie as true, then Frieza would've gotten two very disturbing pieces of information.
    First, an ordinary Saiyan called Bardock somehow went from a power level of 1,000 (or whatever it was) to closer to 10,000 in a short period of time after a bunch of fights. His other squad members also become much more powerful. Frieza's doctors and agents had enough data to figure out that Saiyans get massively stronger after a hard battle.
    Second, Frieza would've gotten a report of a mutant Saiyan baby born with a power level of 5,000 or 10,000 or whatever Broly's power level was. Even though King Vegeta ordered for the kid to be eliminated, Frieza still would've got the information.
    The Ginyu force are mutants and Frieza's own family are mutants so he knows how powerful mutants can be compared to other members of the species. Finally, he knows that the Oozaru form makes them even more powerful. So it wouldn't take a math genius to figure out that the Saiyans could become extremely powerful extremely quickly. If you think of it from Frieza's perspective, it made sense to get rid of the Saiyans and just use an army of normie weaklings with arm blaster guns to run his empire.

  • @mr.patriotjol
    @mr.patriotjol Месяц назад +5

    What if Bardock and King Vegeta get Frieza offguard. Do you think they would still get a chance or is it game over for our hero’s fathers.

    • @bofasofa9399
      @bofasofa9399 Месяц назад +3

      Hey Qaaman, just a heads up. Bardock was at 10k before his final two zen-kai boosts actually. They said "Bardock has never been higher than 10k" (Meaning in the past). After Bardock almost got destroyed by Dodoria, he had already had a zen-kai from that planet with the future-telling species. He was likely at 15k when he fought dodoria, and then he was likely at 20-22k when he confronted Frieza.

    • @lilmac3788
      @lilmac3788 Месяц назад +2

      @@bofasofa9399 good point; a lot of people overlook the intricacies of dragon ball since they go so deep beyond a surface level

    • @bofasofa9399
      @bofasofa9399 Месяц назад +1

      @@lilmac3788 and just to note, no where did I say this changed anything about saiyans being able to fight frieza. It simply points out that Bardock was likely twice as powerful as assumed

  • @Shouxiao
    @Shouxiao Месяц назад +6

    Only way I could see is if Bardock somehow became a Golden Oozaru. May not make sense but it would give him a huge power boost.

    • @SansINess53
      @SansINess53 Месяц назад +2

      Would be a 500x multiplier.

    • @willparada2103
      @willparada2103 Месяц назад

      This

    • @விஷ்ணு_கார்த்திக்
      @விஷ்ணு_கார்த்திக் Месяц назад

      Yeah but then you run into the problem of Golden Oozaru being an uncontrollable form, he may end up blowing up the planet himself, which is a hilariously ironic what if to think about.

    • @SansINess53
      @SansINess53 Месяц назад

      @@விஷ்ணு_கார்த்திக் what I'd bardock turned into a great golden ape at 3 AM :

    • @SansINess53
      @SansINess53 Месяц назад

      @@விஷ்ணு_கார்த்திக் what if bardock turned into a great golden ape at 3 AM :

  • @poleag
    @poleag Месяц назад +4

    I have six words for you. Zenkai boost. Healing chamber. Artificial moonlight.
    Here's the process: you assemble a special squad of 100 elite saiyans. they beat the shit out of each other -> go healing chamber -> beat the shit out of each other -> go to healing chamber. Repeat this until you have a special squad of 100 saiyans all with a base power level of 10,000. These 100 saiyans sneak up on Frieza, throw up a bunch of balls of artificial moonlight, and transform into Oozaru. 100 saiyans with at least a 10,000 power level with 10x boost from Oozaru. Total power = 10 million. They all just start beating their chests and shooting mouthbeams at Frieza. Maybe Frieza takes out half of them by the time he gets ripped apart and eaten.

    • @QaamansLand
      @QaamansLand  Месяц назад +3

      Think about how much stuff you have to make up for them to win

    • @poleag
      @poleag Месяц назад +1

      @@QaamansLand LOL. I just got to the end of your video and you covered all of it. Good stuff, man.
      It's definitely a serious project and it would have to be top secret, but think about the Manhattan Project. Hundreds of elite scientists worked for a long time to create a nuclear bomb. They had to avoid all the Axis spies and they tested the bomb in the middle of nowhere in a desert. It was a top secret mission involving hundreds of elite scientists and they managed to do it.
      So we can think of this as the saiyan version of the Manhattan Project. Of course, the saiyans knew about the scouters and they knew about Frieza's spies, so they'd do it on some isolated planet.
      But if you think about it, it probably wouldn't take too long to do this. The healing chambers healed Goku from nearly dead after the Captain Ginyu thing to completely healed within one day. Maybe it was one hour. So they could put this army together pretty quickly depending on how many healing chambers they had.
      Approaching Frieza and surrounding him before he could flee into space would be the tricky part.

    • @BEPPEJHA
      @BEPPEJHA Месяц назад

      They would be 100 grest apes with 100.000 power level , the total doesnt matter

    • @poleag
      @poleag Месяц назад

      @@BEPPEJHA Then do more zenkai and create one with 500,000,000. We have no evidence that zenkai is limited.

    • @BEPPEJHA
      @BEPPEJHA Месяц назад

      @@poleag as the video says, as soon as you zenkai frieza scouters you and kills you

  • @user-mb4pd4ou5i
    @user-mb4pd4ou5i Месяц назад +1

    Another enjoyable video from qaaman

  • @anthonymurchison8035
    @anthonymurchison8035 Месяц назад +3

    Crazy to think if you drop nail on planet vegeta back then he body’s everyone

    • @EndoScorpion
      @EndoScorpion Месяц назад +3

      The average namekian Dragon Clan farmer (3,000 PL) would body the vast majority of saiyans (1,000 PL).

  • @Luke973T
    @Luke973T Месяц назад +1

    Thing is...the 50x multiplier was never mentioned in the manga...for all we know...there is a minimum power that a SS could be.

  • @SansINess53
    @SansINess53 Месяц назад +1

    Btw, qaaman rage boosts will still exist to give bardock the maximum chance of defeating frieza remember, if we composite Z bardock and Dragon ball minus and super broly bardock then bardock would've gotten a massive boost from a rage boost so like about 30K or something like that because rage boosts are kinda like bullshit, but hey gohan's rage is also bullshit so why not give bardock the bullshit boost he got in the manga, and say his raging determination puts him at around 15,000-100,000
    The reason I'm talking about rage boosts is that they sometimes make the user even stronger without much reliance on the form, the biggest example is goku on namek because he was fatigued ad very injured so his power probably decreased in someway but rised back up to 3 million and the second example of that, is gohan in the cell games, his own rage boost got him the ability to even be stronger than super perfect cell.

  • @manmythandlord2371
    @manmythandlord2371 Месяц назад +2

    King Vegeta 5k power level? That’s ridiculous. There is no way he is Nappa level.

  • @champhugeballs7389
    @champhugeballs7389 Месяц назад

    It’s been a while since I’ve watched your videos man has your voice changed

  • @Huojunta
    @Huojunta Месяц назад +1

    I mean if they knew about the Super Saiyan God ritual...

  • @McGomezAddams
    @McGomezAddams Месяц назад +2

    Here before the 4th upload

    • @QaamansLand
      @QaamansLand  Месяц назад +2

      Nah it's good now. I fixed every error

    • @McGomezAddams
      @McGomezAddams Месяц назад +1

      @@QaamansLand So about them Hunter x Hunter, Yu Yu Hakusho and Yu-Gi-Oh! Videos...👀

    • @BrandonScott-mi5pz
      @BrandonScott-mi5pz Месяц назад

      EXCELLENT WORK. QAAMAN SAIYAN VS FRIEZA

  • @soulglitcher
    @soulglitcher Месяц назад +2

    I wonder if a Super Sayian God could change the outcome...

    • @QaamansLand
      @QaamansLand  Месяц назад +1

      That's pure function then

    • @Jociaoftrades
      @Jociaoftrades Месяц назад

      Where would the 5 pure hearted Saiyans come from?

  • @kingsnerdart
    @kingsnerdart Месяц назад +2

    I didn't even notice any errors in the first one 😅

    • @QaamansLand
      @QaamansLand  Месяц назад

      Maybe not you but someone else may have and that would be a problem

  • @noblue72
    @noblue72 Месяц назад +1

    They couldn't beat Freeza directly or any of his top henchmen, but I feel like most of Freeza's army loses to them and Freeza can't spread his top guys far enough to protect everyone if the Saiyans just focused on small battles against his weaker forces and other guerilla warfare techniques against the Freeza force that were spread out in the galaxy. Just basically be a huge pain in the ass with hit and run techniques and Freeza's operation becomes mostly ineffective

  • @igotchu4233
    @igotchu4233 Месяц назад +1

    Got a great what if what if the saiyans came later instead of early would goku and the z fighters be stronger

  • @derp5439
    @derp5439 Месяц назад +2

    w video

  • @Kenjitsuka
    @Kenjitsuka Месяц назад

    Secret zenkai army with artificial moons + baby LSS Broly sneak attack ftw :P

  • @extremelegendsupreme4596
    @extremelegendsupreme4596 Месяц назад

    King vegeta power level was over 10,000 since when bardock was scanned to be 10,000 it was stated to be “near the king”.

  • @richardh9828
    @richardh9828 Месяц назад

    There is a way many people seem to overlook. Comradery. If King Vegeta made a mission (and hid it from Frieza which I'm sure he could) consisting of all the strongest saiyans including a non-expelled Broly&Paragus and let them train and exploit Zenkais, they could made it.
    Also skill. Not kill weaker beings, nut learn their skills - imagine King Vegeta who valued the Yardratians or even Kanassians skills. Or namekian. Just not being assholes would have saved them. But then again, assholery is what makes a true saiyan. And this comes from a big fan of this race.

  • @johnnycage112
    @johnnycage112 Месяц назад +1

    I got a question. Would Freiza allow Captain Ginyu to live if he kept Goku's body and attained super saiyan?

  • @isaiahharris1998
    @isaiahharris1998 Месяц назад

    Hey Qaaman, awesome job on the video 👏 ▶️...
    Sidenote: i hope someone mods your character or use it CAC in Xenoverse 2 & 3 🐉🐲!!!

  • @ZarrarTheLegendary
    @ZarrarTheLegendary Месяц назад +1

    Qaaman what was the purpose of the saiyan baby insulators? do you think it has something to do with goku and vegeta being the strongest saiyans?

  • @SansINess53
    @SansINess53 Месяц назад +1

    Cui would actually be weaker bro, his rivalry with vegeta made him ascend.

  • @XZAVIER-DAA-GOD
    @XZAVIER-DAA-GOD Месяц назад +1

    Why did you delete it originally?

  • @FoolsGil
    @FoolsGil Месяц назад

    There is another option: less death match more war on multiple fronts. Freeza and his top goons can't be everywhere. If the Saiyans are willing to lose Planet Vegeta and put all their Saiyans not watching the infants to wreak havoc all over the universe, Freeza will run himself ragged sending his men to kill or get killed all over the universe, even if he personally engages, there's just another saiyan in great ape form taking his territory and killing his men, same situation if the Ginyus, Dodoria or Zarbon go out. Even if Freeza won it would take decades to restart from scratch (unless this is the Super Continuity)

  • @catmansweater5466
    @catmansweater5466 Месяц назад

    Nice title change

  • @derrickwatsonjr.661
    @derrickwatsonjr.661 Месяц назад +1

    Hi Qaaman, Would it be OK if I sent you a what-if scenario I thought of where Frieza only decides to destroy the Saiyans a little over 20 years before he did in the anime/manga? In this scenario, Bardock and his squad are much stronger in their base forms due to many Zenakis over time, and Vegeta, Nappa, and Raditz don't encounter the Z fighters yet.

    • @QaamansLand
      @QaamansLand  Месяц назад

      When?

    • @derrickwatsonjr.661
      @derrickwatsonjr.661 Месяц назад

      @@QaamansLand Sometime between today and tomorrow. I was planning to send it to you by email, not through the comments

  • @XZAVIER-DAA-GOD
    @XZAVIER-DAA-GOD Месяц назад +1

    Planet Vegeta would still get blowed up

  • @XZAVIER-DAA-GOD
    @XZAVIER-DAA-GOD Месяц назад +1

    I can believe Bardock was 20k in ep of bardock

  • @user-qd4yn8pq6s
    @user-qd4yn8pq6s Месяц назад

    In my opinion, the only way the Saiyans one of the elite throws a Powerball in the air so they can all turn into great apes then he hast to be caught off guard in his ship and they all fire up blasted the same time just maybe he would die

  • @reptilian_geneticist
    @reptilian_geneticist Месяц назад +2

    King Vegeta was far beyond a 5,000 power level...
    The doctors stated that Bardock's power level is approaching 10,000, and that at this rate he may even surpass the strength of King Vegeta... So this means that King Vegeta was between 10k bare minimum and 17k because Vegeta said that he had surpassed his father as a child....

    • @QaamansLand
      @QaamansLand  Месяц назад

      Does it change my point? That's why I hate power levels. It doesn't change my argument at all

    • @XZAVIER-DAA-GOD
      @XZAVIER-DAA-GOD Месяц назад

      @@reptilian_geneticist King Vegeta 11k, kid Vegate 12k

    • @QaamansLand
      @QaamansLand  Месяц назад

      That was a dub only like. I rewatched it.

    • @reptilian_geneticist
      @reptilian_geneticist Месяц назад +1

      @@QaamansLand what definitely changes your point completely is the fact that SSJ is never even stated to be a 50x multiplier in the manga/anime.... that info came out years afterwards in the daizenshu guides... prior to that it was just this ultimate form that turned a saiyan into the strongest warrior

    • @reptilian_geneticist
      @reptilian_geneticist Месяц назад +2

      @@QaamansLand Doesn't really matter if it's dub only, it's still the official English dub of that movie and English is considered the official world language... and many people would agree that full power Nappa was well over 5,000 otherwise he never would have pushed Goku to use his full power of "over 8,000" AND then use Kaioken on top of that... So yeah Nappa was definitely 5,000+ and there's no way he was stronger than King Vegeta... I think 10k to 16k max makes the most sense for King Vegeta, given everything we know...

  • @Jociaoftrades
    @Jociaoftrades Месяц назад

    Aside from Frieza, was everyone’s power level the exact same for however many years before Namek? Was people born with the power level or did they have to train up for it? Also would Bardock get a rage boost? Still wouldn’t be enough, but curious if it would happen.

  • @joashnegi1308
    @joashnegi1308 21 день назад

    So Bardock is basically the real king. King Vegeta at a measly 5000 is considered 'Super Elite' while being weaker than Roshi at the end of Z. I wonder why he was still considered low class.

  • @jaysonmanman
    @jaysonmanman Месяц назад

    Dashed everyones hope.

  • @Jaythegoat_yt
    @Jaythegoat_yt Месяц назад

    Goku and Bardock were technically not in space 6:31 they were in the atmosphere of their planet

  • @alexfraser8352
    @alexfraser8352 Месяц назад

    Sadly even in the best case scenario (all of them go great ape & firing a ki blast together although that would NEVER happen) it would at best knock frieza off his butt and make him angry lol

  • @extremelegendsupreme4596
    @extremelegendsupreme4596 Месяц назад

    Even if every saiyan on planet vegeta went ssj3, 10% of frieza final form would obliterate them.

  • @kareemv98
    @kareemv98 Месяц назад +2

    FEWWAS

  • @daymianhogue1634
    @daymianhogue1634 Месяц назад

    Yeah, even if we assume 10k for Bardock, both Vegetas and Broly... And have all 4 of them try to attack freeza as Oozarus combined thats 400k vs 530k. Even if you give all 4 of them ssj its 2M which gets them to be like 3rd form freeza level...
    And freeza could literally just death ball away the planet and fly off in his ship, and theyd have no retort ofher than dying like Vegeta did in ROF when Freeza blew up earth.

  • @Sugar_SpiceDB7ZS
    @Sugar_SpiceDB7ZS Месяц назад

    They would have to catch Frieza off guard, if he knew at all what they'd be planning it's over. Overall little to no chance the Saiyans win

  • @jeims9978
    @jeims9978 Месяц назад

    If only Yamoshi won they could perform the super saiyan god ritual. Frieza forces can't sense god ki so they will have an easy time with them.

  • @DefileOdds
    @DefileOdds Месяц назад

    Moostache, moostache, moost.... Get rid of the 3rd one, for he has no moostache.

  • @God_Delibird
    @God_Delibird Месяц назад

    Do we know Frieza's race lifespan and if saiyans that became stronger through zenkai produce children who are stronger at base? Because depending on those factors I can see saiyans overtaking Frieza or his descendants in a few generations.

  • @arrownoir
    @arrownoir 28 дней назад

    They’d have met their ends much much quicker.

  • @Shadeamous
    @Shadeamous Месяц назад +1

    I wish youtube still had video replies cause i know one way the saiyans could defeat freza even final form 100% freeza

    • @QaamansLand
      @QaamansLand  Месяц назад

      How?

    • @Shadeamous
      @Shadeamous Месяц назад

      @@QaamansLand If bardock knew an attack similar to genki dama goku learned from king kai if theres enough saiyans putting their ki into a genki dama like attack it would smash thru freezas giant planet destroying death ball and shred freezas ass cause the genki dama goku used in the namek arc nearly killed freeza in his final form at 50% so freeza getting hit with a genki dama like attack powered by thousands of saiyans would be to much for feeeza especailly in his weakest form

    • @XZAVIER-DAA-GOD
      @XZAVIER-DAA-GOD Месяц назад

      ​@@Shadeamouswe saw Goku use the spirit bomb on Frieza and it didn't work because that's how strong he was

    • @Shadeamous
      @Shadeamous Месяц назад

      @@XZAVIER-DAA-GOD yes but the thing is goku got the energy from mainly plants and animals a genki dama powered by thousands of saiyans in between a thousand like raditz or 5000 as as in quasmans example if they could hit first form freeza with an attack like the genki dama which when destroying planet vegeta wasent even using his full power in his first form it would kill freeza even if he could quickly go into his final form the attack would be so strong hed have no chance of surviving

  • @ShadowDeist
    @ShadowDeist Месяц назад

    what if they had turles with them and the tree of might, me I think they STILL would of failed

  • @planetbirthday6859
    @planetbirthday6859 Месяц назад

    Even if bardock went super Saiyan, and had the plan of going great ape while super Saiyan would still stand no chance, power level would only be bumped up to 5 million at that point, and I don't see him skipping straight into the super Saiyan 4 form

  • @princeindisguise
    @princeindisguise Месяц назад +1

    King Vegeta's power level was 10,000 as per bardock the father of Goku movie.

  • @Dragonball-ov1jj
    @Dragonball-ov1jj 23 дня назад

    Wait I'm confused in the dragon ball multiverse example you gave all the Saiyan's attack Frieza at once in their Ape form so that would be a combine beam attack, So even if in their ape form their power levels were max 5,000, If you have each Saiyan doing a beam attack even if their entire race was only 1,000 Saiyan's the combined beam would be 5 million which if stronger than Frieza first 3 forms.

  • @anthonymurchison8035
    @anthonymurchison8035 Месяц назад

    It probably wouldn’t matter but I wonder what was Z broly base as kid was and then how strong he was as a young super sayian and if he would have been able to push freiza at least

  • @B33RUS-ug2db
    @B33RUS-ug2db Месяц назад

    Frieza at full power is 120,000,000
    Bardock is at best 10,000.
    With ssj he's 500,000
    With ss2 he's 1,000,000
    With ss3 he's 4,000,000
    With ss4 he's 40,000,000
    With ssg(calced) by Carthu he's 200,000,000

  • @schemar17
    @schemar17 Месяц назад

    What if king vegeta went golden great ape would that be enough

  • @ragna8732
    @ragna8732 Месяц назад +1

    King Vegeta was I believe between 12 to 15,000

    • @QaamansLand
      @QaamansLand  Месяц назад

      Would it make a difference?

    • @ragna8732
      @ragna8732 Месяц назад

      @@QaamansLand not at all , lol. Second form would still be too much.

  • @vegetajp7
    @vegetajp7 Месяц назад

    Well, that’s really think about this if freezer felt that the saiyan Wasn’t a threat to him any allow them to live would have been destroyed by them

  • @robertrainford6754
    @robertrainford6754 Месяц назад

    Qaamam technically frieza should of never been that much stronger than the sayian in the first place. I’d argue that the sayians should of been massively stronger than frieza. Here is the thing with the zenki boost and the the sayans natural tendency to want to keep getting stronger there is no way they would be as weak as they are. If vegeta and goku could get large power jumps by zenki boost alone than it does not make sense for the sayans to not be the same. Akira wrote himself in a plot hole.

  • @ericmacgillivray537
    @ericmacgillivray537 Месяц назад

    While what your saying is true super provided super sayian God loophole so theoretically possible because in that timeline the myth was common knowledge

  • @Xis_sa
    @Xis_sa Месяц назад

    Bro thought we wouldn’t notice he deleted the vid😭🙏

    • @QaamansLand
      @QaamansLand  Месяц назад

      No, it was on purpose. The previous video had an editing error about the Ginyu Force.

    • @Xis_sa
      @Xis_sa Месяц назад

      @@QaamansLand ik I’m just joking lol good video tho

  • @SlickDraco
    @SlickDraco Месяц назад +1

    That don't make no sense for example for King Vegeta's power level specially since everybody would most likely be stronger than him and he would not be king no that shit piss me off right there King Vegeta was stated to be around 10,000 or 12,000 since Vegeta at the age of 10 or how old he was was getting stronger than his father or he was stronger than his father so why the hell did you went to 5000 that sounds like a mid-class power level when Goku's father having a power level of 10,000 would not make sense if you just giving him that and yes it was stated he was getting there but I would argue that he was probably 8,000 and he was probably 10,000 when he died because he probably had a little boost and power otherwise it does not make sense to give King Vegeta that stupid ass power level that you gave him because his race would not respect him and would most likely want to overthrow him sorry for the paragraph what is really pissed me off o because it does not make any sense for Goku's father to be stronger than Vegeta's father because Vegeta's father was the king and he was the ruler for a reason just because Goku got stronger than Vegeta doesn't mean that father's share the same boat.

  • @tyrannotherium7873
    @tyrannotherium7873 Месяц назад

    Honestly, I heard that king Vegeta was a 11,000

    • @XZAVIER-DAA-GOD
      @XZAVIER-DAA-GOD Месяц назад +1

      @@tyrannotherium7873 same on a video years ago and kid Vegate was 12k

  • @rin4425
    @rin4425 Месяц назад

    This might not matter but what if the Sayians or Bardock himself take advantage of his Future Vision?

  • @kazi1
    @kazi1 Месяц назад +1

    Yo

  • @TheraVoltCupping
    @TheraVoltCupping Месяц назад +1

    Hey brotha can you make a video on why so many black people love piccolo and see him as a black

    • @QaamansLand
      @QaamansLand  Месяц назад +1

      I did two videos on this already. Look up Qaaman Piccolo is black.

    • @TheraVoltCupping
      @TheraVoltCupping 29 дней назад

      @@QaamansLand ok thanks

  • @brad-leelindo25
    @brad-leelindo25 Месяц назад

    Thank you Qaaman this is the reason why I stop watching dragon ball what if giving goku ssj earlier like brah early ssj would get everyone killed by they reach vegeta

  • @XZAVIER-DAA-GOD
    @XZAVIER-DAA-GOD Месяц назад +1

    Canon doesn't matter lol

  • @XZAVIER-DAA-GOD
    @XZAVIER-DAA-GOD Месяц назад +1

    Yeah saj bardock vs Lord Frieza, bardock would at like lose

  • @bumblebower1529
    @bumblebower1529 Месяц назад +1

    Nah just piss off broly so he kills freeza

  • @gokublaclivesmatter2766
    @gokublaclivesmatter2766 Месяц назад

    THEY WOULD OF STILL GOT SMOKED

  • @BobbyMoore2-mp8wb
    @BobbyMoore2-mp8wb Месяц назад

    If the Sayians could have somehow managed to become a Golden Great ape 🦍 they might have killed Frieza

    • @QaamansLand
      @QaamansLand  Месяц назад

      Think about how insane that is. You have to give them transformations then can't even do just to have a chance against Frieza.

  • @XZAVIER-DAA-GOD
    @XZAVIER-DAA-GOD Месяц назад +1

    Oh new whay if what it Goku destroyed Vegate's power ball

  • @wafflesmcgallagher934
    @wafflesmcgallagher934 Месяц назад

    Yeah, but for all he knew, this super saiyan doojickey was a 5,000x multiplier, or 5,000,000x multiplier. So, lazy or not, better to just nuke the planet

  • @GreyLeo
    @GreyLeo Месяц назад

    So what if they used a power ball when Bardock is getting overwhelmed by Frieza and he turns into a great ape that would put him at 5mil and unlike Goku and Vegeta Bardock would have gone for the kill. Because the Super Saiyan Vegeta was talking about was a Golden Great Ape

    • @QaamansLand
      @QaamansLand  Месяц назад

      How would he get to 5 mill?

    • @GreyLeo
      @GreyLeo Месяц назад

      ​​@@QaamansLandmy fault 500k × 10 unless my math ain't mathing (Tho I do suck at math it isn't a dig.) of course factoring in if Bardock is at 10k

  • @gumpyflyale2542
    @gumpyflyale2542 Месяц назад

    10,000 x 50 is 500,000 times 10 is 5,000,000 so 2 5 million power levals all out in freezias weakest form might kill him maybe when he is most suppressed but even then its doubtful

  • @kujoova
    @kujoova Месяц назад

    Their backwards society based on individualism caused all these deaths. Even if they didn't want to let the lower classes access more power, King Vegeta could have at least used Broly as a last ditch attempt weapon to throw at Frieza.
    I guess if we were really stretching things, maybe a Golden Great Ape Bardock could kill Frieza. A 500x multiplier would put him at 5M, which is just over 1.5x Frieza in his suppressed final form.

  • @Shadeamous
    @Shadeamous Месяц назад

    The video was privated when i tried to watch it the first time

    • @QaamansLand
      @QaamansLand  Месяц назад

      No, this is a re-upload. The one you tried to watch had a major editing error.

    • @Shadeamous
      @Shadeamous Месяц назад

      @@QaamansLand damn that sucks

  • @nimzoplays4797
    @nimzoplays4797 Месяц назад +2

    If Bardock would have turn ssj on a full moon wouldnt he be able to win against Frieza?

    • @QaamansLand
      @QaamansLand  Месяц назад

      Think about how insane you have to make it up

    • @metal42
      @metal42 27 дней назад

      Yeah Golden Oozaru Multiplier is too massive for Frieza to deal with

  • @RavenShadow_yt
    @RavenShadow_yt Месяц назад

    Why was this video uploaded like 3 times?

  • @Crakinator
    @Crakinator Месяц назад +1

    The saiyans stand 0 chance tbh. Even if they trained for decades, I doubt they’d get anywhere near as strong as Goku did in the Namek saga. Goku was literally training himself to the brink of death in a gravity chamber, eating a senzu, repeat. The Saiyans don’t have the luxury of any advanced training tech that we know of, and Frieza would definitely find out about it and would not tolerate it.

    • @QaamansLand
      @QaamansLand  Месяц назад

      I could have sworn I saw this comment before.

    • @Crakinator
      @Crakinator Месяц назад

      @@QaamansLand u trippin