The stature of Leonard Bernstein just grows and grows, so many after years since we lost him.... the greatest conductor the USA ever produced, and one of the greatest conductors of all time. Bless him.
The greatest musical figure we have produced in the US next to Louis Armstrong and Charlie Parker IMHO, maybe Cole Porter and Irving Berlin could come into play. As a conductor, per se, he does not stand up to any number of others; Walter, Reiner and Szell for starters.
Agreed! The lyricism and intensity (!) of the first movement, the beautiful second, the wonderful pizzicato third, and a smashing finale. It's just the epitome of the symphony to me..
I. Andante sostenuto (0:37) II. Andantino in modo di canzona (19:37) III. Scherzo - Pizzicato ostinato. Allegro (30:17) IV. Finale - Allegro con fuoco (35:29)
I saw Bernstein conduct the Tchaikovsky 4th Symphony AND Beethoven's 5th Symphony in Philadelphia in 1976. It was absolutely incredible!!! A concert for the ages!!!
42:50 onwards, I keep listening and looking at this part over and over... The element of suspense and extravaganza... Wow, I hear Tchaikovsky, but I see Bernstein.
This has to be the most dramatic, breathtaking performance of this magnificent piece I have ever heard. Ioannis, please add the date and venue of the performance in the title; it's important.
Principal Oboist Harold Gomberg is brother to Ralph Gomberg, principal oboist Boston Symphony both outstanding oboists. Sadly the musicians of this era are gone never to be seen or heard again. Both brothers studied with the great Marcel Tabateau of Curtis Institute. Most all of Marcel’s students became principals in the major US orchestras of that era. Oboists of today are of a lesser caliber and can’t compare to those of the past. I was an oboe student of Ralph Gomberg at NEC in Boston 1968 which was sadly interrupted by the Vietnam War.
@@kjmolinar Only your opinion. What are your credentials? Are you a professional oboist? How old are you? I’m 75 and have been playing the oboe since I was 12. I’ve studied with the best of the best . Those are my words.
The one & only Leonard Bernstein!! . I had the pleasure of seeing him in Concert back in the 70's...... Just watched the Young People's Concert with Andre Watts on You Tube.... Wonderful...... Beautifully moving... Thanks for posting🙏😃
I am not sure I ever saw an orchestra more closely follow the conductor. Bernstein was--is--the standard bearer in American classical music. How difficult it must have been for anyone in the audience not to have burst into thunderous applause after that electrifying performance of the first movement.
What I love about Bernstein is he conducts emotion, not time. These are professional musicians, they don’t need a clock in front of them. Too many conductors try to keep time for them. But Bernstein could push and pull like no other.
My 15 year old just did a summer orchestra camp on trumpet and the main piece was this symphony - and they nailed it after learning it only 10 days! You gotta love L.B. and the N.Y. Philly. Little know fact - Pink Floyd's Wish You Were Here has the final movement violins at 43:29 on the intro to that song....check it out!
My first time listening to this, and the 2nd and 3rd movements really blew me away. Wow. The melodic theme in that 2nd movement, and those plucks in the third! Captivating.
What a magnificent Symphony. Tchaikovsky dedicated his 4th Symphony to his Mecenas, Madame Von Neck. Conducted by Leonard Bernstein with NY Philharmonic, it cannot get any better
Quelle magie orchestrale et une écriture orchestrale de Bernstein toujours si expressive et tellement en adéquation avec l’ADN de Tchaikovsky. Un grand moment artistique extatique et une œuvre si intensément retranscrite….
The fact that they are doubling Tromba in F parts, with two C trumpets a piece had to have made this beefier than Tschaikovsky could have imagined. But man, nobody is Vacchiano. Is that who the Princ is in this recroding? Was this pre-1975? I see John Ware maybe. They are are all just so dominating and unified, in any case wow !! I will fall way short in reproducing any of it, personally.
@@RD3D-1 Timpanist Roland Kohloff, like all students of his great predecessor Saul Goodman played standing up, thus using his entire body to help produce the stroke. This is an important reason that Goodman, Kohloff and all of his great contemporaries got such a full sound, resonant and present even in the softest passages and huge in the loudest without banging. Nowadays, for reasons beyond me, all timpanists play sitting down and seem to slap at the instruments.
For me, it depends. I’m a violinist, and I have performed in front of audiences (nothing too large, but still), and for me, it really depends on the piece. If it’s slow and serene, whether I’m performing or in my seat watching, I’m inherently aware of the pause after the piece finishes that ensures that the peaceful energy is not broken and how a senseless audience ruins it if they clap too quickly. But if it’s something fast and crazy like this, I feel like there’s a synergy between performer and audience. The performer expects it and the audience is waiting for it, bursting at the seams, sweating for the chance to clap at something majestic, and there it fits the energy of the piece. If Bernstein was upset, then I suppose that’s for him to deal with, but as someone who has stood on both sides, I can see why the audience just couldn’t wait, the piece was too amazing, the energy too intense, they had to clap and express the joy that was bursting out of them!!! For me, such a response and such a piece in this case just seems natural🤷🏻♂️😊
They held back tho, and didn’t finish the applause. As a former administrative assistant for a symphony, I remember it used to drive our music director NUTS when people would do that, lol! He ended up being explicit in pre concert talks about how each movement would end and when to applaud, to the point that he broke down bits and pieces of the performances. As a composer and classical music aficionado, that drove ME nuts! 😂
This is such an exciting performance, and I find myself coming back to it over and over. The camera shots of the orchestra are great, and I especially like the closeups of the flute section with the great Julius Baker, Renee Siebert and , I think the piccolo was William Heim. The French Horn section is outstanding.
And you can add the great timpanist Roland Kholoff, who had the bad luck to succeed his legendary teacher, Saul Goodman, and then tragically died young and so never received the major recognition he deserved. (Goodman once told Kohloff, "You played the Mahler 5th better than I did." (Grand Pause). "That's because you had a better teacher!")
I see the principal cellist Lorne Munroe, possibly hornist Ranier DeIntinis and bassoonist William Polisi, clarinetist Stanley Drucker. Who is the concertmaster? David Nadien?
There are a few, but decidedly a minority. Those were the times when women did not have the same opportunities, and were not paid equally. That's still true today way too often...
Bravo…the tempo for the Scherzo was at the top end but the woodwind entries perfect. As a clarinet player I was comforted that my solos in this piece were easier than the piccollo ones…..
Love the eager applauders. LOL. Was this "Avery Fisher Hall" or still "Philharmonic Hall"? The orchestra had to play is such a really aggressive way to work in that hall. Now it is a totally different story. Magnificent performance.
I would have guessed late 60s from the hair and glasses but I suppose the classical music world can be a bit behind everything else. I’m amazed at how few female musicians there are in the orchestra. I think I’ve spotted two so far.
@@matthewknight4318 Well, as you said, the world was a bit behind in the inclusion department at the time. But I’m hoping that the lack of diversity wasn’t the only thing you noticed. I mean, if I remember correctly, I seem to recall there being an extraordinarily beautiful symphony going on as well! I could be wrong though…
Who knows the exact date of this performance? I know it was during the 70s when Pierre Boulez was the music director and Leonard Bernstien was Conductor Laureate.
Kohloff and Vic Firth of the Boston Symphony were (arguably) the best students of the great Saul Goodman who was Kohloff's predecessor at the Philharmonic. At one point in the 1960s Goodman students were principal timpanists in Boston, NY, the Met Opera, LA, SF, Minnesota, Cincinnat, Louisville, and St. Louis. That's why everyone wanted to study with him, even successful jazz drummers and composers.
@@MrKlemps My very first book when I studied to be a timpanist was a book called Modern Method For Tympani by Saul Goodman. I was fortunate to see Kholoff play with the San Francisco Symphony Orchestra years ago. He played with such delicate style which was a joy to watch.
Sorry, I have this video like this - without any other titles. But this is from internet: Winner of a prestigious Emmy Award in 1976, Leonard Bernstein's recording of Tchaikovsky's Fourth Symphony with the New York Philharmonic captures the full drama and emotional depth of the work. Filmed live at Avery Fisher Hall on 24 April 1975, the concert was an overwhelming success. Bernstein returned to the Fourth again and again, and conducted it in 1989 in his last appearance at Avery Fisher Hall. Critics called this interpretation "rivetingly, definitively manic-depressive". He had come to identify as closely with Tchaikovsky as he had with Mahler, and gave searingly intense interpretations of both composers.
When the NYP was at its best. These were refined artists. Today they are just musicians that can play the notes. Very few artists Note the age of most of the orchestra. Today much too young with lack of experience.
Дирижер великий. Но музыку не понял, переписал штрихи автора, из за чего музыка поменяла полярность местами. Так и мимо прошли цитаты и стилизации русских народных песен, которые прозвучали, будто немецкие. Получился Шуман какой то, в котором Бернстайн был очень хорош.
Not the best performance. French horns can't seem to attack notes together. I. Have heard the Leningrad Symphony and Chicago Symphony perform this better.
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Shame on RUclips for sticking a commercial inside the 1st movement.
Tchaikovsky would famously stop the orchestra in the middle of movements to pitch a sale for Amazon Prime.
For me, it is absolutely the best Symphony ever written..
The stature of Leonard Bernstein just grows and grows, so many after years since we lost him.... the greatest conductor the USA ever produced, and one of the greatest conductors of all time. Bless him.
The greatest musical figure we have produced in the US next to Louis Armstrong and Charlie Parker IMHO, maybe Cole Porter and Irving Berlin could come into play. As a conductor, per se, he does not stand up to any number of others; Walter, Reiner and Szell for starters.
@@DougCummingWe should not forget Aaron Copland and Samuel Barber.
거스를수 없는 운명에 대한 우울을 이토록 아름답게 표현한 수 있을까 내기준 운명교향곡 1위ㅠ 번스타인의 열정까지 끼얹어서 마음을 휘저음
One of the best pieces of music ever in my opinion.
You’re not wrong, it certainly stands proudly amongst the greats!
have you heard Peter's 5th or 6th?
@@PP1969GR also greats! All his symphonies, actually
I'm absolutely agree!
Agreed! The lyricism and intensity (!) of the first movement, the beautiful second, the wonderful pizzicato third, and a smashing finale. It's just the epitome of the symphony to me..
I. Andante sostenuto (0:37)
II. Andantino in modo di canzona (19:37)
III. Scherzo - Pizzicato ostinato. Allegro (30:17)
IV. Finale - Allegro con fuoco (35:29)
Tchaik 4 gets more and more brilliant every time I listen to it. The genius is in the writing itself.
God Tchaikovsky orchestration is so sublime that finale is pure greatness
I was there at this peformance. Electric--will never forget it.
As an American conductor Bernstein is the GOAT.
TCHAIKOVSKY IS ONE OF MY FAVOURITE COMPOSERS AND THIS IS AN AMAZING PERFORMANCE. BERNSTEIN IS AMONG THE GREATEST CONDUCTORS. I LOVE HIS STYLE.
I saw Bernstein conduct the Tchaikovsky 4th Symphony AND Beethoven's 5th Symphony in Philadelphia in 1976. It was absolutely incredible!!! A concert for the ages!!!
43:18 - 43:25 Bernstein indeed has the command of rhythm compared to those succeeding him. What an unbearably handsome man😍😍😍
Браво👏👏👏👏👏
28:32 Maybe one of the most beautyful moments in music history. And look at Bernstein, he knows it...
And how that movement closes...like an old man reminiscing by a dying fire of an irretrievable past.
42:50 onwards, I keep listening and looking at this part over and over... The element of suspense and extravaganza... Wow, I hear Tchaikovsky, but I see Bernstein.
Makes you wonder how Tchaikovsky might have conducted it
The beginning of the recapitulation in the first movement never fails to chill the blood in my veins. So does the coda.
Especially Bernstein's coda.
This has to be the most dramatic, breathtaking performance of this magnificent piece I have ever heard. Ioannis, please add the date and venue of the performance in the title; it's important.
Excellent works from the 70s, when L. Bernstein was at his most energetic.
Thanks for sharing.
Great musical performance, but equally great film editing and visual rendering by the incomparable and legendary Humphrey Burton.
Lenny I love you ❤
Principal Oboist Harold Gomberg is brother to Ralph Gomberg, principal oboist Boston Symphony both outstanding oboists. Sadly the musicians of this era are gone never to be seen or heard again. Both brothers studied with the great Marcel Tabateau of Curtis Institute. Most all of Marcel’s students became principals in the major US orchestras of that era. Oboists of today are of a lesser caliber and can’t compare to those of the past. I was an oboe student of Ralph Gomberg at NEC in Boston 1968 which was sadly interrupted by the Vietnam War.
The oboists of today are every bit as good as the oboests from that era . you don't know what your talking about
@@kjmolinar Only your opinion. What are your credentials? Are you a professional oboist? How old are you? I’m 75 and have been playing the oboe since I was 12. I’ve studied with the best of the best . Those are my words.
@@Marrio49 If you make a blanket denunciation of today's oboists, you should expect pushback, and invoking your age doesn't help you.
@@Twentythousandlps The master has spoken.
@@kjmolinaryou are completely wrong but respect your opinion although it is your opinion and only your opinion. Good day.
The one & only Leonard Bernstein!! .
I had the pleasure of seeing him in Concert back in the
70's......
Just watched the Young People's Concert with Andre Watts on You Tube.... Wonderful......
Beautifully moving...
Thanks for posting🙏😃
Strangely enough, though there are dozens of LB/NY Phil videos, in only six or so do they play complete symphonies, and this is one of their best.
I always loved this symphony, even as a child. My dad loved classical music and I grew up listening to it.
Piotr I. Ceaikovski (1840-1893),genial spirit si creator.Lirism si patetism tragic.Patrimoniu universal.Slava lui vesnica!
44:40 - 44:44 the satisfaction of the maestro's face for the performance of the orchestra.
I am not sure I ever saw an orchestra more closely follow the conductor. Bernstein was--is--the standard bearer in American classical music. How difficult it must have been for anyone in the audience not to have burst into thunderous applause after that electrifying performance of the first movement.
What I love about Bernstein is he conducts emotion, not time. These are professional musicians, they don’t need a clock in front of them. Too many conductors try to keep time for them. But Bernstein could push and pull like no other.
The second movement, the andantino, just pulls at the heart.
My 15 year old just did a summer orchestra camp on trumpet and the main piece was this symphony - and they nailed it after learning it only 10 days! You gotta love L.B. and the N.Y. Philly.
Little know fact - Pink Floyd's Wish You Were Here has the final movement violins at 43:29 on the intro to that song....check it out!
es la mejor interpretacion que he escuchado,soy musico ruso y no pude sostener emocion,bravo
My first time listening to this, and the 2nd and 3rd movements really blew me away. Wow. The melodic theme in that 2nd movement, and those plucks in the third! Captivating.
Profound score with gracious performers.
Ah, the NY Phil and Bernstein with those magnificent players like Baker, Drucker, Monroe--wow.
What a magnificent Symphony. Tchaikovsky dedicated his 4th Symphony to his Mecenas, Madame Von Neck. Conducted by Leonard Bernstein with NY Philharmonic, it cannot get any better
not Neck but Meck
Quelle magie orchestrale et une écriture orchestrale de Bernstein toujours si expressive et tellement en adéquation avec l’ADN de Tchaikovsky. Un grand moment artistique extatique et une œuvre si intensément retranscrite….
Fantastic ,Wonderful, Overwhelming Bernstein!
yes
BA! The trumpet section! And Timps! They were amazing!
Check out that roll at 10:02; it's all in the wrists.
The fact that they are doubling Tromba in F parts, with two C trumpets a piece had to have made this beefier than Tschaikovsky could have imagined. But man, nobody is Vacchiano. Is that who the Princ is in this recroding? Was this pre-1975? I see John Ware maybe. They are are all just so dominating and unified, in any case wow !! I will fall way short in reproducing any of it, personally.
@@chrislarsen79Gerard Schwartz succeeded his teacher, Wm. Vacchiano, as principal.
@@RD3D-1 Timpanist Roland Kohloff, like all students of his great predecessor Saul Goodman played standing up, thus using his entire body to help produce the stroke. This is an important reason that Goodman, Kohloff and all of his great contemporaries got such a full sound, resonant and present even in the softest passages and huge in the loudest without banging. Nowadays, for reasons beyond me, all timpanists play sitting down and seem to slap at the instruments.
Love the close-up of the hands. Didn’t see that last time. Thanks for posting, amazing! I hope it doesn’t get pulled again. Humanity needs this.
Truly deserves the word awesome. Both the orchestra and the conductor and the composer really awesome.
Recognize a lot of the orchestral players from the young people’s concert series. Nice to see them still there.
Beautiful
Wow -- just wow, that's all one can say!
19:22 You can tell he was upset by the applause...I would be too! A little too fast for my liking but it is what it is!
For me, it depends. I’m a violinist, and I have performed in front of audiences (nothing too large, but still), and for me, it really depends on the piece. If it’s slow and serene, whether I’m performing or in my seat watching, I’m inherently aware of the pause after the piece finishes that ensures that the peaceful energy is not broken and how a senseless audience ruins it if they clap too quickly. But if it’s something fast and crazy like this, I feel like there’s a synergy between performer and audience. The performer expects it and the audience is waiting for it, bursting at the seams, sweating for the chance to clap at something majestic, and there it fits the energy of the piece. If Bernstein was upset, then I suppose that’s for him to deal with, but as someone who has stood on both sides, I can see why the audience just couldn’t wait, the piece was too amazing, the energy too intense, they had to clap and express the joy that was bursting out of them!!! For me, such a response and such a piece in this case just seems natural🤷🏻♂️😊
They held back tho, and didn’t finish the applause. As a former administrative assistant for a symphony, I remember it used to drive our music director NUTS when people would do that, lol! He ended up being explicit in pre concert talks about how each movement would end and when to applaud, to the point that he broke down bits and pieces of the performances. As a composer and classical music aficionado, that drove ME nuts! 😂
This is such an exciting performance, and I find myself coming back to it over and over. The camera shots of the orchestra are great, and I especially like the closeups of the flute section with the great Julius Baker, Renee Siebert and , I think the piccolo was William Heim. The French Horn section is outstanding.
And you can add the great timpanist Roland Kholoff, who had the bad luck to succeed his legendary teacher, Saul Goodman, and then tragically died young and so never received the major recognition he deserved. (Goodman once told Kohloff, "You played the Mahler 5th better than I did." (Grand Pause). "That's because you had a better teacher!")
I see the principal cellist Lorne Munroe, possibly hornist Ranier DeIntinis and bassoonist William Polisi, clarinetist Stanley Drucker. Who is the concertmaster? David Nadien?
BIlly Heim was my flute teacher for a while!!
Après 1mn43 déjà des publicités no way 😮
Memorable performance. Bernstein always delivers. Strange to see no Female musicians. Not aware why because it was not that far back in History.......
There are a few, but decidedly a minority. Those were the times when women did not have the same opportunities, and were not paid equally. That's still true today way too often...
Bravissimo!!!!!
Bravo…the tempo for the Scherzo was at the top end but the woodwind entries perfect. As a clarinet player I was comforted that my solos in this piece were easier than the piccollo ones…..
Magnificent.
The guy with the cymbals in the last movement.
those violins are going crazy in the finale
❤❤❤❤🏆🏆🏆🏆WOW 🏆🏆
Roland Kohloff timpani ,,💪👌🥁
This conductor looks like he was cast fir thel role. Excellent Arrangement,
Excellent musucians.
Esecuzione incomparabile ❤
Why is the 2nd flute staring at the floor just all the time?
Great .... but odd nowadays seeing zero female musicians😮
I know, you need some tits to oggle when Tchaikovsky gets bogged down in his predictable sequences to give you a lift 🎉🎉🎉🎉
5th chair cello, 2nd flute….
@@SuperUberTuberDude Also Eve Queller on the Bass Fiddle.
RUclips, no pienso consumir ningún producto que interrumpa un concierto. Es una falta de respeto.
他の演奏家が思いつかない独特の解釈。めちゃくちゃ心地よい。偉大な音楽家だな。NYPはBPOと変わらない程上手い。
転写があるよ！アナログビデオなんだね
今となっては懐かしい
❤❤❤
Love the eager applauders. LOL. Was this "Avery Fisher Hall" or still "Philharmonic Hall"? The orchestra had to play is such a really aggressive way to work in that hall. Now it is a totally different story. Magnificent performance.
Such a contrast with today's orchestras. I counted only 4 women in the whole orchestra.
second subjects:
2:09,
4:00,
4:52,
10:41;
11:13,
13:17,
18:53
Anyone have a date for this performance?
Most probably 1976
@@afrofinka Thank you!
I would have guessed late 60s from the hair and glasses but I suppose the classical music world can be a bit behind everything else. I’m amazed at how few female musicians there are in the orchestra. I think I’ve spotted two so far.
@@matthewknight4318 Well, as you said, the world was a bit behind in the inclusion department at the time. But I’m hoping that the lack of diversity wasn’t the only thing you noticed. I mean, if I remember correctly, I seem to recall there being an extraordinarily beautiful symphony going on as well! I could be wrong though…
@@Tennisisreallyfun You aren't.
Who knows the exact date of this performance? I know it was during the 70s when Pierre Boulez was the music director and Leonard Bernstien was Conductor Laureate.
The late great Roland Kohloff on timps
Kohloff and Vic Firth of the Boston Symphony were (arguably) the best students of the great Saul Goodman who was Kohloff's predecessor at the Philharmonic. At one point in the 1960s Goodman students were principal timpanists in Boston, NY, the Met Opera, LA, SF, Minnesota, Cincinnat, Louisville, and St. Louis. That's why everyone wanted to study with him, even successful jazz drummers and composers.
@@MrKlemps My very first book when I studied to be a timpanist was a book called Modern Method For Tympani by Saul Goodman. I was fortunate to see Kholoff play with the San Francisco Symphony Orchestra years ago. He played with such delicate style which was a joy to watch.
I believe Bernstein was mistaken in taking the 3rd movement at such a fast tempo. You can barely tell what the woodwinds are playing in the B section
36:19 here TCHAIKOVSKY clearly got his inspiration from Pink Floyd
I think the 1st movement is so emotionally charged that it was impossible to find a counter balance in the last movement.
amazing performance . Is it commercially available CD or download. I missed this , only found it today
Don't bother. Ads interrupting the first movement even.
Sorry, it's not my fault. They don't pay ME for this
The only recording that has the true aesthetic of this work.
April 1975
When was this recorded? Thanks for an answer!
Sorry, I have this video like this - without any other titles. But this is from internet: Winner of a prestigious Emmy Award in 1976, Leonard Bernstein's recording
of Tchaikovsky's Fourth Symphony with the New York Philharmonic captures
the full drama and emotional depth of the work. Filmed live at Avery Fisher
Hall on 24 April 1975, the concert was an overwhelming success. Bernstein
returned to the Fourth again and again, and conducted it in 1989 in his
last appearance at Avery Fisher Hall. Critics called this interpretation
"rivetingly, definitively manic-depressive". He had come to identify as
closely with Tchaikovsky as he had with Mahler, and gave searingly intense
interpretations of both composers.
did the clarinet solo on the third movement mess up?
42:52
Who else is also completely knocked of their socks after just the first movement?? 😳
The best symphony ever written.
May very well be.
A great symphony for sure. Not sure if there really is a greatest symphony.
I don't think so, and Beethoven 3?
0:51, 40:50
ese Tchaikovsky era un loquillo
Julius Baker playing principal flute...
0:37 begins |
You didn't listen to Saraste's interpretation....❤
30:16
8:28
Shostakovitch cello concerto
Lenny fue el prototipo del moderno director de orquesta el molde murio con el
18:04
eyharisto.
When the NYP was at its best. These were refined artists. Today they are just musicians that can play the notes. Very few artists
Note the age of most of the orchestra. Today much too young with lack of experience.
Yo the commercials on an excellent piece like this ruin the whole song. 💀
Дирижер великий.
Но музыку не понял, переписал штрихи автора, из за чего музыка поменяла полярность местами. Так и мимо прошли цитаты и стилизации русских народных песен, которые прозвучали, будто немецкие.
Получился Шуман какой то, в котором Бернстайн был очень хорош.
This is about 16 bpm faster than Bernstein’s!
ruclips.net/video/2_sKNIvfA5U/видео.htmlsi=_war9Vd6yABoxCwy
39:02 and 43:39
Нарцисс нарцисович.)))
Not the best performance. French horns can't seem to attack notes together. I. Have heard the Leningrad Symphony and Chicago Symphony perform this better.
Yeah, sometimes the horns sound not great but I wonder if it's just a result of not great sound engineering.
No tienen dignidad poner anuncio a medio concierto?
What announcement?
interrompere tanta sublimità con spot pubblicitari è davvero deleterio
Incivile e irrispettoso