Any review that people say the amp sounds thin, is how you suggest. These amps sound MUCH better with the gain at 7 or higher....and use the volume and tilt control from there. Also to add, personally I don't like the Boost on, in my situation that makes it sound muddy but some do.
Great video! I just recently got an Origin 20 after lots of researching, this vid helped with my choice and I couldn’t be happier with it so far. This amp just oozes classic Marshall crunch after volume 6 on the master.
gj on the demo. The reason why it gets so much hate is because there's vids out there comparing it to amps that are 5x more expensive, and everyone in the comments is bashing it because it doesn't sounds as good....
@@blakemansfield2356 IMHO a big part of the appeal is the two el34s. You just can't get affordable amps with the big bottles (and big wintage tone) for the sub $300 I just bought one of these for.
Antonio Lucio Vivaldi my first tube amp I bought last week it’s amazing and I find myself playing tons more now and stuff I never played before but loved classic rock n clean blues no fx just amp into a mg 4x12 cab and a 98’ Orville flame top Les paul it’s like discovery of the Guitar all over again I’m 38 and have bin a sold state mg Marshall overdrive wha chorus slight verb shready blues zakk slash Metallica kinda player all my life till now really enjoying a amp that has beautiful voicing of my guitars it’s great
The thing all the demos miss is doin the VH mismatch thing with the cab. 8 ohm tap into 16 ohm cab-shifts the frequency, gain, feel, and tightens the bottom end up. So... There's more tones than just these here
Ken K I mean sure, but that’s a pretty oddball trick and honestly doesn’t change the tone all that significantly. Certainly not going to change what this amp is good at. But a cool trick nonetheless
@@blakemansfield2356 Cool trick? Have you ever ran any Marshall s that way? It not a trick. Actually alot of players did this. It's part of the mojo in some classic tones. And hugely overlooked. Especially with old plexi's.
Ken: Your comment is most intriguing. I'm planning on getting the Origin 20 Head after a VERY positive experience with the Origin 5 combo. I'll be using a 'cab merger' box to run two 8 ohm 4x12's in parallel for a 16 ohm load and I'm really curious as to how it will sound versus one 8 ohm 4x12.
Hey Blake, I know it’s been a good while since you made this video, but I’m looking to buy an origin 20h for myself and was wondering if you could answer a couple of my questions. How much headroom does this amp have? How loud can it get completely clean? Also, would the amp break up later if you cranked the master volume and adjusted gain to taste instead? Rather than setting gain on max and adjusting master volume like you did in the video?
Eric Johnson's tone is not based around a dirty plexi the gain you hear is fuzzface, tube screamer and a BK butler tubedriver in various combinations. You're better off with a simple pedal setup into a Fender style clean.
@@Nightingale1887 It is based around a dirty plexi. His violin lead tone is basically just eric clapton's tone with an echoplex and tube driver stacked on top.
Cristiano Varella I run a zakk overdrive in front of my 98’ Orville Les paul and it sounds great it can take the high gain just needs help pushing it there
given a feedback. I bought this head about 6 months ago. It sounds great with high gain pedals (I used be-od, sabbra caddabra, shredmaster clone and pussy melter clone). the only thing i did was to change the V1 tube (12ax7) for a 5157 tube. it has plenty of power to gig with a loud drummer. Thanks
Blake can you tell me the chords in that first riff? That is so cool. Maybe Cm7, F7 to a D of some sort? I'm playing along with you, Les Paul into Origin 50
Damn, i can't decide which amp to buy, an Origin 20W with 1x12 Greenback or a Boss Katana 100W 2x12. 60% for bedroom training, 20% gigs with band and 20% gigs alone in open places. The bands are: Ufo, Scorpions, Judas Priest, Thin Lizzy, Kiss, Deep Purple and some bands of 80's Dokken, Ratt, Wasp, etc.
I’d say the DSL40CR or the Katana. Origin can’t cover anywhere close to the amount of ground that those two can. Both should be available to try out at GC if you have one near you
@@blakemansfield2356 Thanks for the reply, unfortunately we don't have a GC here in Brazil, so it will be a one shot, my worry about the DSL it is the Speaker, just one 12", the reliability and care, and most important, the tube lifespan, 'cause i will play most the time in bedroom, so i think i'll be wasting them. What you think? They are about the same price here.
JustBlueFish Watch Reviews Hey there I have this head and a be- od and I can Tell u it sounds terrible compared to the Friedman in front of my dsl40 Just my ears and opinion Cheers
@@Shaffc71 Thanks for the reply. I've been considered maybe a SC20h Studio head but I tried one briefly and it was WAY to loud. I had to really get the volume up above 4 to get it sounding good which is too loud for my space, but it sounded great. I wonder do you know if an overridve pedal that would work in front of the SC20h and give a good sound at lower practice at home kind of volumes or would you just not bother?
They are no doubt bitchin' sweet amps. But if you would've decreased the gain some at the louder master volume settings, you would've REALLY heard that pair of EL 34's singing or snarling, depending on your finger/pick attack & guitar's volume knob......We're talkin' about cookin' with Crisco ......Daddy cool. Trust me. When will players learn that the more you drive the power tubes, the less gain you need. Ya wanna let that pair of EL 34's SING at the higher volumes, and too much gain in the preamp totally robs them of it. You'll still have all the drive & sustain, yet authenticly warm, I guarantee it.
Hi Blake, I have the DSL20 Combo and looking to place the Origin 20Head on top. Do you plug yours in the DSL40 and use the previous default speaker Celestion 70-80 or Vintage 30 ? I am wondering if it will sound that could with the 70-80 and if using the combo as a cabinet change a thing ? I guess not but just looking for some feedback. Thanks
You totally could use that dsl combo as your speaker/cab, but you may need to get a longer speaker cable so that it will reach the origin head. Not sure if it’ll reach. It’ll sound good I’m sure
@@blakemansfield2356 Thanks for the quick reply. The head connection is on the opposite side but I guess with a 1/4 coupler (female - female) receiving the speaker cable and another cable from the coupler to the origin. I think it should sound good as most marshall cabinets are 2 x 12 celestion 70-80. These speakers get a lot of hate but I personally think they have awesome harmonics and tones. It is a well kept secret from Marshall unless you play death metal, they would saturate and too much would be going on.
sounds good,but i play only strats,am tired of les pauls,i had a 50 watt origin an it started oscilating, motorboating at near full volume,the loudest 50 watts i ever heard including plexis..playing a les paul is allmost cheating compared to a strats character an many sounds available, good anyway, but should i trust another origin,i believe the 20 watt combo sounded just as good,an deafning allmost as the 50 watt combo i sent back, thanx........
Blake Mansfield. Nice. I run mine through a Marshall 1966A loaded with a Creamback and a Blackback from mid 70s. I am still stunned by the sounds I can get from this amp. I cannot rate it highly enough. The people who say they cannot get a good sound from these must not be using it correctly. I love it, (and own and run a '72 SLP 100 and '73 JMP as a comparison). This Origin 20H is like a mini version, tone wise.
buddybeetle They need volume to sound right. A lot of people these days can’t get away with turning up too much- but this amp needs it (like all old Marshalls)
I bought this amp head like 1.5 years ago, it truly is the biggest piece of shit i have ever played through, get the bassbreaker ,or the bulgera g5 or the katana head or hell anything else i tried many cabinets ,many guitars and i really really wanted to love it, but no, oh it makes a great doorstop for the bandroom. Mine is for sale, the build quality is that of a cheap toy.
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You and Robert Baker do the best demos for the Marshall Origin on RUclips! Everyone else are trying to compare the Origin to high gain amps..
best demo I've seen yet, everybody else keeps using a ridiculous amount of pedals
SHOTGUN20000 Thanks
I still think this would be a killer clean amp with the gain pretty low and the master turned up until it breaks up! Great video!
Any review that people say the amp sounds thin, is how you suggest. These amps sound MUCH better with the gain at 7 or higher....and use the volume and tilt control from there. Also to add, personally I don't like the Boost on, in my situation that makes it sound muddy but some do.
I have the Origin 50. They aint happy unless they are pushed HARD!
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Man, Blake, you're makin' that thing sound real sweet, dude! I love these tones!!
Thanks brother!
Great video! I just recently got an Origin 20 after lots of researching, this vid helped with my choice and I couldn’t be happier with it so far. This amp just oozes classic Marshall crunch after volume 6 on the master.
gj on the demo.
The reason why it gets so much hate is because there's vids out there comparing it to amps that are 5x more expensive, and everyone in the comments is bashing it because it doesn't sounds as good....
Inigo I’d take an Origin over a lot of other amps under 1k
@@blakemansfield2356 IMHO a big part of the appeal is the two el34s. You just can't get affordable amps with the big bottles (and big wintage tone) for the sub $300 I just bought one of these for.
Antonio Lucio Vivaldi my first tube amp I bought last week it’s amazing and I find myself playing tons more now and stuff I never played before but loved classic rock n clean blues no fx just amp into a mg 4x12 cab and a 98’ Orville flame top Les paul it’s like discovery of the Guitar all over again I’m 38 and have bin a sold state mg Marshall overdrive wha chorus slight verb shready blues zakk slash Metallica kinda player all my life till now really enjoying a amp that has beautiful voicing of my guitars it’s great
sounds really good. perfect plexi tones. 🏆
Sounds like a boutique Marshall, very nice, the Origin50 even moreso
Hey this clip really highlights the stellar tone stack of this unit it seems to be pretty constant throughout the range !!!!!
The gain and master volume are very interactive, I find. My best solution I've found is to turn them up simultaneously.
Hoooooo it's THE video i was looking for ! Coran/Crunch tones of this amp ! Il falling in love ahah
I think you just sold me this amp. I also have a DSL40 combo to stick it on top of :)
Great sounding amp and super tasty playing!
dejongeblondegod Thank you sir!
The thing all the demos miss is doin the VH mismatch thing with the cab.
8 ohm tap into 16 ohm cab-shifts the frequency, gain, feel, and tightens the bottom end up.
So... There's more tones than just these here
Ken K I mean sure, but that’s a pretty oddball trick and honestly doesn’t change the tone all that significantly. Certainly not going to change what this amp is good at. But a cool trick nonetheless
@@blakemansfield2356 Cool trick?
Have you ever ran any Marshall s that way? It not a trick. Actually alot of players did this.
It's part of the mojo in some classic tones.
And hugely overlooked.
Especially with old plexi's.
Ken: Your comment is most intriguing. I'm planning on getting the Origin 20 Head after a VERY positive experience with the Origin 5 combo.
I'll be using a 'cab merger' box to run two 8 ohm 4x12's in parallel for a 16 ohm load and I'm really curious as to how it will sound versus one 8 ohm 4x12.
True but none of those tones are any good, worst amp ever!!
How does that trick work?🤔 I'm not very good at English 😅
Great playing, but i like the gain on 6 and the master about 6,5 with my tele, and adjust the gain with with volume knob on the guitar // Tony
Tony Ceder Yep that’s a great sound!
An incredible sounding amp!
You say “no pedals or post eq”... but where the reverb and Delay are coming from...🧐?
el34 tubes with modulation mods 🌚🌚
They always sound good on RUclips, but how loud is that. I mean probably beyond driving everyone in the house insane.
Yo, you’re really not using any pedals on this? I just bought this amp and it sounds nothing like this with every knob on 10. Still sounds clean.
if u put in mid or low power setting AND put master at say 8 - is it the same break up and tone as in high?
Hey Blake, I know it’s been a good while since you made this video, but I’m looking to buy an origin 20h for myself and was wondering if you could answer a couple of my questions.
How much headroom does this amp have? How loud can it get completely clean?
Also, would the amp break up later if you cranked the master volume and adjusted gain to taste instead? Rather than setting gain on max and adjusting master volume like you did in the video?
exactly my question too
Could you do this Eric Johnson style? All tone knobs all the way down, tilt in the middle, boost, gain, and volume on 10?
Diax1324 Na she gone
Eric Johnson's tone is not based around a dirty plexi the gain you hear is fuzzface, tube screamer and a BK butler tubedriver in various combinations. You're better off with a simple pedal setup into a Fender style clean.
@@Nightingale1887 It is based around a dirty plexi. His violin lead tone is basically just eric clapton's tone with an echoplex and tube driver stacked on top.
Nice démonstration. Its an improvised riff or what is the title and author?
No pedals? Where does the delay and reverb come from? Great playing and demo nonetheless.
Nice. Do you you remember the cab and mic? 4x12
hello, how does this amp sound with high gain pedals in front of it, like the proco rat, Friedman BE or Marshall ShredMaster??
Cristiano Varella I run a zakk overdrive in front of my 98’ Orville Les paul and it sounds great it can take the high gain just needs help pushing it there
given a feedback. I bought this head about 6 months ago. It sounds great with high gain pedals (I used be-od, sabbra caddabra, shredmaster clone and pussy melter clone). the only thing i did was to change the V1 tube (12ax7) for a 5157 tube. it has plenty of power to gig with a loud drummer. Thanks
This amp sucks no matter what pedals you try, worst amp ever!!!
Mine is still for sale!! And why do you have to be so hostile? You obviously lack character and are apparently tone def at the same time.
@@dangreving1094 If you cant make this amp sound good maybe you should also consider put your guitars for sale.
Liked because of the greenbacks😎
Blake can you tell me the chords in that first riff? That is so cool. Maybe Cm7, F7 to a D of some sort? I'm playing along with you, Les Paul into Origin 50
Shoot me your email and I’ll send you a quick video
@@blakemansfield2356 Hi may I got it too? want my email? thanks...
What cab are you using? Sounds great. Stock tubes? Thanks.
Push that bastard! Nice!!!!!
Damn, i can't decide which amp to buy, an Origin 20W with 1x12 Greenback or a Boss Katana 100W 2x12.
60% for bedroom training, 20% gigs with band and 20% gigs alone in open places.
The bands are: Ufo, Scorpions, Judas Priest, Thin Lizzy, Kiss, Deep Purple and some bands of 80's Dokken, Ratt, Wasp, etc.
I’d say the DSL40CR or the Katana. Origin can’t cover anywhere close to the amount of ground that those two can. Both should be available to try out at GC if you have one near you
@@blakemansfield2356 Thanks for the reply, unfortunately we don't have a GC here in Brazil, so it will be a one shot, my worry about the DSL it is the Speaker, just one 12", the reliability and care, and most important, the tube lifespan, 'cause i will play most the time in bedroom, so i think i'll be wasting them.
What you think? They are about the same price here.
Kramer1ST Is prob go Katana then! So versatile and sounds great at ANY volume. I want one too!
Katana!!! Don’t i repeat don’t buy this p.o.s. It’s terrible, worst amp ever.
Hey buddy, any chance you could do a video with the Marshall Origin 20H using a Friedman BE-OD pedal in front? I'd love to hear how that sounds.
JustBlueFish Watch Reviews
Hey there I have this head and a be- od and I can
Tell u it sounds terrible compared to the Friedman in front of my dsl40
Just my ears and opinion
Cheers
@@Shaffc71 Thanks for the reply. I've been considered maybe a SC20h Studio head but I tried one briefly and it was WAY to loud. I had to really get the volume up above 4 to get it sounding good which is too loud for my space, but it sounded great. I wonder do you know if an overridve pedal that would work in front of the SC20h and give a good sound at lower practice at home kind of volumes or would you just not bother?
JustBlueFish Watch Reviews
I love my dsl for cost factor and it sounds great at bedroom volumes
Good luck
@@JustBlueFish I use a OCD pedal for my 20 Origin combo at low Bedroom vol - sounds fantastic !
There is no pedal that will fix the terrible sound this toy makes.
Thanks for the video! Something is unclear to me - You say "Volume" but do you mean the Master knob or the Gain knob?
Tochiro Mifune I’m increasing the volume knob. Increasing the volume increases the gain. A lot like an old non master volume plexi
They are no doubt bitchin' sweet amps. But if you would've decreased the gain some at the louder master volume settings, you would've REALLY heard that pair of EL 34's singing or snarling, depending on your finger/pick attack & guitar's volume knob......We're talkin' about cookin' with Crisco ......Daddy cool. Trust me. When will players learn that the more you drive the power tubes, the less gain you need. Ya wanna let that pair of EL 34's SING at the higher volumes, and too much gain in the preamp totally robs them of it. You'll still have all the drive & sustain, yet authenticly warm, I guarantee it.
Hi Blake, I have the DSL20 Combo and looking to place the Origin 20Head on top. Do you plug yours in the DSL40 and use the previous default speaker Celestion 70-80 or Vintage 30 ? I am wondering if it will sound that could with the 70-80 and if using the combo as a cabinet change a thing ? I guess not but just looking for some feedback. Thanks
You totally could use that dsl combo as your speaker/cab, but you may need to get a longer speaker cable so that it will reach the origin head. Not sure if it’ll reach. It’ll sound good I’m sure
@@blakemansfield2356 Thanks for the quick reply. The head connection is on the opposite side but I guess with a 1/4 coupler (female - female) receiving the speaker cable and another cable from the coupler to the origin. I think it should sound good as most marshall cabinets are 2 x 12 celestion 70-80. These speakers get a lot of hate but I personally think they have awesome harmonics and tones. It is a well kept secret from Marshall unless you play death metal, they would saturate and too much would be going on.
sounds good,but i play only strats,am tired of les pauls,i had a 50 watt origin an it started oscilating, motorboating at near full volume,the loudest 50 watts i ever heard including plexis..playing a les paul is allmost cheating compared to a strats character an many sounds available, good anyway, but should i trust another origin,i believe the 20 watt combo sounded just as good,an deafning allmost as the 50 watt combo i sent back, thanx........
Hi bro, in the low setting for a decent volume bedroom with good gain, volume should be at?
If you wanna get good tone, it’s on the limit of bedroom volume, but on real bedroom levels it sounds bad, even on low power mode
Is it loud enough for a band?
Any chance of a Strat or LP with familiar tunes/riffs for real world references? Thanks for the clean demo! (No pedals)
I’ve sold this head. But it’s a really cool amp and you can’t beat it for the money
Oh well! Thanks though
Nice mine is on its way 5/29/2021
which cab are you using?
Sounds great! I hear a hint of delay..
Master_Of_Sparks73 Of course! Added some Reverb and delay after the amp.
Wish you played this with humbuckers or at least some of each but good video
Great demo and lovely playing. What speaker(s) were used ?
buddybeetle Greenbacks
Blake Mansfield. Nice. I run mine through a Marshall 1966A loaded with a Creamback and a Blackback from mid 70s. I am still stunned by the sounds I can get from this amp. I cannot rate it highly enough. The people who say they cannot get a good sound from these must not be using it correctly. I love it, (and own and run a '72 SLP 100 and '73 JMP as a comparison). This Origin 20H is like a mini version, tone wise.
buddybeetle They need volume to sound right. A lot of people these days can’t get away with turning up too much- but this amp needs it (like all old Marshalls)
@@blakemansfield2356 4x12 with G12M25s?
Thiago Vitesse correct
Pretty fizzy above 6....
Like in the original baseman, in v1 I used a 12AY7 and it's much cleaner with no fizziness.
I bought this amp head like 1.5 years ago, it truly is the biggest piece of shit i have ever played through, get the bassbreaker ,or the bulgera g5 or the katana head or hell anything else i tried many cabinets ,many guitars and i really really wanted to love it, but no, oh it makes a great doorstop for the bandroom. Mine is for sale, the build quality is that of a cheap toy.
You end up selling it ?
@@skylarcarlson7745 no i still have it, but it just sits there collecting dust.