I just got this amp. Its kinda like a 100% play amp really. I have the 50w and when you have it on low crank full everything it reallllllllllly rocks. Its totally geared for someone playing in a band with drums and has down what they are playing. This guys review is real good. Go with the 20w youll be happy and learn how they used to do it back in the day.
Terrific, thorough, and honest review of this amazing amp! I'm in complete agreement with your assessment. When I got my Origin 50, I was somewhat surprised by it... However, I quickly discovered that by using it in conjunction with other amps that my tones are amazingly articulate, clear, punchy, and set forward in the mix without having to battle for volume (though it is fully capable of extreme levels). It's a very exciting and inspiring amp with tons of headroom and overall versatility, but probably not going to be the first choice for a strictly Metal player. It does take pedals quite well, but I find that it really shines as a bare-bones and dry gutteral thumper (classic AC/DC type drive) in conjunction with a higher gain, wet setup.
I've got the 50 combo it's awesome. I love the plexi clean and this nails it. Without sounding 'off', 'snooty' etc - most marshallers aren't after plexi and are generally being sold a misnomer . For no pedal gain you're talking jcm800 onwards. Turn the origin 50 to midday pre and 3pm master, attenuate to suit the potential violence of the neighbours and you get an amazing edge of breakdown that reacts to your pick dynamics. As good as fender but more Jimmie?.. so as a metal amp - as bad a choice as any plexi superlead or jtm 45.. as a responsive pedal platform fuck yeah sir
The sound sample with the Gretsch at 6 and a half minutes is clean. The NO TALKING video that I did has the last 2 sound samples on the clean channel, except for the leads. It's a rather bland clean Tone. This amp really shines when there's a bit of break-up, but most people want to hear how this amp performs with gain. That's why you don't often hear the Clean Tone in RUclips videos: It's bland. Cheers -Ryan
Thank you for making this video covering the Origin 50. This is a awesome video with tons of great riffs, stand out tones/riffs at 8:13 and 10:16. Love the blends also, leaning towards the the Orange blend the most IMHO.
I am looking at the 50 used because the price is pretty good ....I am likely not going to use it a lot in the lower gain range but having the option would expand my ear....I really appreciated when you put a boost in front of it ... between your playing and the tone, sweet!
I bought the combo based solely on the headroom, and price. I didn't even know it got crunchy until I got it home? I got it for my pedals. Man, does it love pedals! I kinda wish i had gotten the 20 instead now, but hey, I paid $611+ tax, new, in the box. Can't complain about that. I found mine breaks up more and more, and is sounding better and better, the more i play it. At least it seems that way to my ears. In all, great way to spend $611 dollars!
Dude this is a badass amp I work at a music store and we have one that I put a Friedman be-od in the front and as a tc fangs and good god either of those pedals turn this amp into a metal monster. This is a great loud amp for pedals. Especially if you use like a helix or some type of multi effect.
I have the origin 50h. Well, I gotta share with you. This amp sounds really great. U won’t get a clean clean sound, you’ll always get some slightly overdriven sound, but it sounds that little dirtiness makes it sound really particular. You can really get a great sound out of this. It’ll fit in your mix like a glove. I’ve tried different settings, used the tilt through 0 to 10 and every setting I’ve used sounds great. You won’t go wrong with it. This is not a modern amp so in order to use get a modern sound you might need to use pedals. This is a very classic sounding amp, which is the perfect rock tone. So, you can try to get a lot of legendary tones and it’ll sound great. You can try to get a Keith Richards kinda tone, angus young, slash, metallicas kill ‘em all era kinda tone, u2, GNR, etc. Compared to other tube amps, what you get for what u pay is just amazing. I got mine when it was cheaper, like about 500 bucks
Hey good review, I'm looking for a backup amp, and came across this Marshall Origin. I was mainly looking for a "clean" amplifier, I use a pedalboard live or sometimes (depending on which band I play in) a Boss GX100 (especially for a cover setlist). As a user of several Blackstars, I wanted to try something different and after your review, I know for sure. The Origin 50 is ideal and has a different sound
Thanks, a really good and usefull review! But I could use some advice. For my RHCP cover band and Frusciante tones I am looking for a amp head, for band practice, gigin but also home use if possible. I allready have the Marshall 4x12CAB and I am still wondering what amp head to buy with a tight budget. I can get a used Origin 50h for a good price or should I go for the Origin 20. Or go for a DSL or something different? I am also happy with used gear. At the moment I have a Fender Mustang III V2 and it brings me quite far. But a Marshall tube amp with 4x12 cab mmmmm. All kind of advice is welcome.. thanks again
In all honesty... the Low End Response on the DSL will get you closer to the fat clean tones that Frusciante gets... also the DSL Jason more than one channel and you can use the DSL's drive channels to get closer to Frusciante's dirty tones. RHCP would require lots of pedals anyway, but they wouldn't be as necessary with the DSL. A Used DSL to match your Marshall 1960A or 1960B would give you a great start for RHCP! Cheers -Ryan
I have the 50 head, sitting on a 4x12. Mostly classic rock, but put a Tubescreamer in front of it and you can push it hard. I also hit it with a Headrush board. Just depends on what you're looking for.
I'd go with the Origin cause of the tubes. The DSL is solid state. Guess I'm just biased towards tubes. I do have a Marshall DSL combo amp that sounds amazing as well. I don't think you can go wrong with either choice!
The DSL is not Solid State. I'm not sure where you are getting your information from. But if you look in the back of your DSL you should see EL34 and 12AX7 Tubes. I would still go with the Origin for a Punk band as it sounds more raw than the DSL Series. But it's all down to personal preference. Cheers -Ryan
This amp got a bad rap @ first because everyone for some reason thought it would be a High gain amp & it isn't. (JMP/Plexi) People didn't do their research before buying it & were disappointed. It's great w/pedals, I run a Daddy O or a DS-1 in front of it or just using the amp's boost you can get some good crunch. I'll set it @ Presence @ 3, Vol @ 3 minimum, Treb @ 6, Mid @ 7 or 8, Bass @ 5. I'll set the Tilt @ 4 to 6 & Gain @ 6. It also depends what cabinet/speakers you're running it thru. (1965A 4x10cab). It's a versatile amp w/some nice clean tones. Using an EQ in the Effects loop works really well also. Great vid. Run it thru a 4x10cab & see what you think. Rock on!!
I have a 50 origin combo and it shuts down on the 50 watt setting after awhile, I gig weekly and this amp although it sounds great, is not usable . Until I find a fix for this problem it will sit at home as a 900 dollar practice amp. I'm thinking of lowering the voltage on the bias adjustment ?
I have a 50 and I run it in stereo with a twin head both with 2 12 cabs. I run them both at around 5 on volume and use a protein drive just in the blue channel as my always on tone. I treat it more as a fender clean amp vs what it is a Marshall amp.
Great video! 100% agree that you have to change your thinking when you start using it, as compared to how you thought you were gonna use it. I currently use this in a hardcore band together with an EVH 5150III and they blend pretty great! The Origin does a good job in the mid-highs while the EVH owns the lows, overall making a tight but distinctive sound between the amps. What helps me keep up with distortion is an OCD pedal in the chain, so (in most cases 😅) it definitely chugs!
Hey home boy...i have the 50 coming tomorrow. I was going to buy the origin 20, but they only had an ivory one available. It was ugly and 50 dollars more. Now I'm scared.
I got a good deal on a used one, but I returned it after spending a week trying to get good hard rock/metal sounds out of it. I don't want an amp that needs pedals to sound good. I have cheaper Bugera and Blackstar amps that sound so much better
My understanding is that the 20-watt of all these Marshall amps have crossover distortion. So I think if I would have to get one I would get the 50 and set the master very low. I personally wouldn't get one because I already have the class 5 and these are basically the same amp with some mods.
Lol,.."homie"....I think "homie" is a lot like "bruh",..in either case, you know exactly what type you're dealing with and should just consider the source much like you apparently have.. The origin 20/50 are both fantastic amps for classic rock/hard rock. So in a way they cover a lot of territory. They aren't very good for any modern tones. This was a very well constructed demonstration and commentary on this amp.
A DSL will work for most bedroom players without one …But these origins definitely won’t …Different gain structure..Output Tube Gain on these ..Kinda a JTM trip with the origins? ☮️
Not a terrible budget amp for a hobbyist or beginner, not a plexi though similar cosmetic design that’s about it it’s a wanna be. Youd be hard pressed to see a serious musician running one on stage. I live by the motto “why buy something trying to sound like something else when you can just have the real thing”. The Studio Vintage is the way to go for a real deal quality made English Marshall plexi. The finest amp I’ve ever ran and will likely be my main rig for many many years for life most likely unless I manage to get my hands on a Vintage Plexi one day but that just a dream at this point.
The SVs are double the cost, while not sounding twice as good. The Origin sits right in my budget and sounds incredible in my opinion, after gigging heavily with one for a year now. For the kinds of bar gigs I do, the extra cost of an SV simply isn't justified. This is a real-world journeyman amp. I'll never spend more than a grand for either a guitar or an amp
I just got this amp. Its kinda like a 100% play amp really. I have the 50w and when you have it on low crank full everything it reallllllllllly rocks. Its totally geared for someone playing in a band with drums and has down what they are playing. This guys review is real good. Go with the 20w youll be happy and learn how they used to do it back in the day.
Terrific, thorough, and honest review of this amazing amp! I'm in complete agreement with your assessment. When I got my Origin 50, I was somewhat surprised by it... However, I quickly discovered that by using it in conjunction with other amps that my tones are amazingly articulate, clear, punchy, and set forward in the mix without having to battle for volume (though it is fully capable of extreme levels). It's a very exciting and inspiring amp with tons of headroom and overall versatility, but probably not going to be the first choice for a strictly Metal player. It does take pedals quite well, but I find that it really shines as a bare-bones and dry gutteral thumper (classic AC/DC type drive) in conjunction with a higher gain, wet setup.
Yeah AC/DC🤘🤘
I've got the 50 combo it's awesome. I love the plexi clean and this nails it. Without sounding 'off', 'snooty' etc - most marshallers aren't after plexi and are generally being sold a misnomer . For no pedal gain you're talking jcm800 onwards. Turn the origin 50 to midday pre and 3pm master, attenuate to suit the potential violence of the neighbours and you get an amazing edge of breakdown that reacts to your pick dynamics. As good as fender but more Jimmie?.. so as a metal amp - as bad a choice as any plexi superlead or jtm 45.. as a responsive pedal platform fuck yeah sir
Those saturated tones with just the origin were fucking awesome
I would be interested in hearing the origin 50's clean tones. But there is not one YT video demonstrating the clean tone aspect.
The sound sample with the Gretsch at 6 and a half minutes is clean. The NO TALKING video that I did has the last 2 sound samples on the clean channel, except for the leads. It's a rather bland clean Tone. This amp really shines when there's a bit of break-up, but most people want to hear how this amp performs with gain. That's why you don't often hear the Clean Tone in RUclips videos: It's bland. Cheers -Ryan
Thank you for making this video covering the Origin 50. This is a awesome video with tons of great riffs, stand out tones/riffs at 8:13 and 10:16. Love the blends also, leaning towards the the Orange blend the most IMHO.
I am looking at the 50 used because the price is pretty good ....I am likely not going to use it a lot in the lower gain range but having the option would expand my ear....I really appreciated when you put a boost in front of it ... between your playing and the tone, sweet!
I bought the combo based solely on the headroom, and price. I didn't even know it got crunchy until I got it home? I got it for my pedals. Man, does it love pedals! I kinda wish i had gotten the 20 instead now, but hey, I paid $611+ tax, new, in the box. Can't complain about that. I found mine breaks up more and more, and is sounding better and better, the more i play it. At least it seems that way to my ears. In all, great way to spend $611 dollars!
Dude this is a badass amp I work at a music store and we have one that I put a Friedman be-od in the front and as a tc fangs and good god either of those pedals turn this amp into a metal monster. This is a great loud amp for pedals. Especially if you use like a helix or some type of multi effect.
i got a helix and i am sure i can tweak something that will work for everything :)
Yo Homeboy that Origin Kick Ass!!!!!. Gonna have to get one after this video lml
I just purchased one and within 17 seconds of plugging it in I knew I made the right decision. It is everything I've ever needed in an amp.
Great video, and breakdown. Sounded great blended with the JCM800 and 6505, and absolutely love the sound of that Firebird and Explorer.
I have the origin 50h. Well, I gotta share with you. This amp sounds really great. U won’t get a clean clean sound, you’ll always get some slightly overdriven sound, but it sounds that little dirtiness makes it sound really particular.
You can really get a great sound out of this. It’ll fit in your mix like a glove.
I’ve tried different settings, used the tilt through 0 to 10 and every setting I’ve used sounds great. You won’t go wrong with it.
This is not a modern amp so in order to use get a modern sound you might need to use pedals.
This is a very classic sounding amp, which is the perfect rock tone.
So, you can try to get a lot of legendary tones and it’ll sound great.
You can try to get a Keith Richards kinda tone, angus young, slash, metallicas kill ‘em all era kinda tone, u2, GNR, etc.
Compared to other tube amps, what you get for what u pay is just amazing.
I got mine when it was cheaper, like about 500 bucks
Hey good review, I'm looking for a backup amp, and came across this Marshall Origin. I was mainly looking for a "clean" amplifier, I use a pedalboard live or sometimes (depending on which band I play in) a Boss GX100 (especially for a cover setlist). As a user of several Blackstars, I wanted to try something different and after your review, I know for sure.
The Origin 50 is ideal and has a different sound
Sounds great if you know what you’re doing 👍🏻
Nice review, homie. I like the honesty but still on the fence. I have a 1976 Musicman 65 212 I’m looking to upgrade.
It sounds good, it’s a pass for me due to not enough gain. I like the studio vintage series or DSL line. Nice video good tones.
Thanks, a really good and usefull review! But I could use some advice. For my RHCP cover band and Frusciante tones I am looking for a amp head, for band practice, gigin but also home use if possible. I allready have the Marshall 4x12CAB and I am still wondering what amp head to buy with a tight budget. I can get a used Origin 50h for a good price or should I go for the Origin 20. Or go for a DSL or something different? I am also happy with used gear. At the moment I have a Fender Mustang III V2 and it brings me quite far. But a Marshall tube amp with 4x12 cab mmmmm. All kind of advice is welcome.. thanks again
In all honesty... the Low End Response on the DSL will get you closer to the fat clean tones that Frusciante gets... also the DSL Jason more than one channel and you can use the DSL's drive channels to get closer to Frusciante's dirty tones. RHCP would require lots of pedals anyway, but they wouldn't be as necessary with the DSL. A Used DSL to match your Marshall 1960A or 1960B would give you a great start for RHCP! Cheers -Ryan
I have the 50 head, sitting on a 4x12. Mostly classic rock, but put a Tubescreamer in front of it and you can push it hard.
I also hit it with a Headrush board. Just depends on what you're looking for.
Excellent video !!
I play punk rock originals in my band, i was wonder which would be better the origin 50 or dsl40, great review mate
I'd go with the Origin cause of the tubes. The DSL is solid state. Guess I'm just biased towards tubes. I do have a Marshall DSL combo amp that sounds amazing as well. I don't think you can go wrong with either choice!
The DSL is not Solid State. I'm not sure where you are getting your information from. But if you look in the back of your DSL you should see EL34 and 12AX7 Tubes. I would still go with the Origin for a Punk band as it sounds more raw than the DSL Series. But it's all down to personal preference. Cheers -Ryan
It has a killer deep Marshall blues clean.
Indeed it does, yet few reviewers mention it.
Love that explorer and 50
Great amp just a little too clean for me
That rarities Strat is very cool, looks a lot different to most Strats. Does it have anything unusual in terms of hardware/ electronics?
This amp got a bad rap @ first because everyone for some reason thought it would be a High gain amp & it isn't. (JMP/Plexi) People didn't do their research before buying it & were disappointed. It's great w/pedals, I run a Daddy O or a DS-1 in front of it or just using the amp's boost you can get some good crunch. I'll set it @ Presence @ 3, Vol @ 3 minimum, Treb @ 6, Mid @ 7 or 8, Bass @ 5. I'll set the Tilt @ 4 to 6 & Gain @ 6. It also depends what cabinet/speakers you're running it thru. (1965A 4x10cab). It's a versatile amp w/some nice clean tones. Using an EQ in the Effects loop works really well also. Great vid. Run it thru a 4x10cab & see what you think. Rock on!!
JMP actually has less gain than the Origin. I run a DS-1 into my Origin as well; it's a fantastic amp.
I have the 20 watt version. Its a great sounding amp, just needs a little more gain (without a pedal)
I have a 50 origin combo and it shuts down on the 50 watt setting after awhile, I gig weekly and this amp although it sounds great, is not usable .
Until I find a fix for this problem it will sit at home as a 900 dollar practice amp.
I'm thinking of lowering the voltage on the bias adjustment ?
How much time does it takes to shut down??
Had the same issue with my dsl40. The whole PC board needed to be replaced. Under warranty fortunately.
$900?
“I prefer homeboy, sir”
*Mic drop*
I have a 50 and I run it in stereo with a twin head both with 2 12 cabs. I run them both at around 5 on volume and use a protein drive just in the blue channel as my always on tone. I treat it more as a fender clean amp vs what it is a Marshall amp.
Have a origin 50 I run with an ac30 wet/dry nice cheap way to add an extra amp to your setup.
Great video! 100% agree that you have to change your thinking when you start using it, as compared to how you thought you were gonna use it.
I currently use this in a hardcore band together with an EVH 5150III and they blend pretty great! The Origin does a good job in the mid-highs while the EVH owns the lows, overall making a tight but distinctive sound between the amps. What helps me keep up with distortion is an OCD pedal in the chain, so (in most cases 😅) it definitely chugs!
should i buy it if i do already have a jcm 900 slx?
They sound different. So if you are looking for different tonal options… there’s a reason why a lot of guitarists have 10-40 amps. Cheers -Ryan
It would be great to see an in-depth review of the DSL20HR by you. I am really curious to hear your thoughts on it.
I can do the 100HR. But not the 20. Cheers -Ryan
The amp is the best sounding marshall amp i ever heard other than blues breaker, it's so transparent and clean, i fucking love it!!!
Hey home boy...i have the 50 coming tomorrow. I was going to buy the origin 20, but they only had an ivory one available. It was ugly and 50 dollars more. Now I'm scared.
I got a good deal on a used one, but I returned it after spending a week trying to get good hard rock/metal sounds out of it. I don't want an amp that needs pedals to sound good. I have cheaper Bugera and Blackstar amps that sound so much better
thats pretty kick arse
Homie got owned I think! 🤣😂
My understanding is that the 20-watt of all these Marshall amps have crossover distortion. So I think if I would have to get one I would get the 50 and set the master very low. I personally wouldn't get one because I already have the class 5 and these are basically the same amp with some mods.
Sorry but the Origin sounds like a solid state.
Lol,.."homie"....I think "homie" is a lot like "bruh",..in either case, you know exactly what type you're dealing with and should just consider the source much like you apparently have..
The origin 20/50 are both fantastic amps for classic rock/hard rock. So in a way they cover a lot of territory.
They aren't very good for any modern tones.
This was a very well constructed demonstration and commentary on this amp.
Was thinking of getting one and having it modded to blend with my Laney ironheart 60w
The Ironheart is VERY underrated! I have the 120 and it’s awesome! Cheers -Ryan
@@Crypticmaskguitar yes it is, I love it, keep up the great work brother!
I want the Headfirst Plexi mod done on one of mine!!! ..Amazing Mods he’s doing!!!
I think every bedroom rocker should be purchasing a load box if they want to play tubes
A DSL will work for most bedroom players without one …But these origins definitely won’t …Different gain structure..Output Tube Gain on these ..Kinda a JTM trip with the origins? ☮️
Just wanna say if yall have an origin and dont like it feel free to send it my way :)
What cabinet are you running through if any at all?
Signal Chain is in the description. Mesa Standard Oversized 4x12. Cheers -Ryan
@@Crypticmaskguitar sweet, thanks for the reply!
Not a terrible budget amp for a hobbyist or beginner, not a plexi though similar cosmetic design that’s about it it’s a wanna be. Youd be hard pressed to see a serious musician running one on stage. I live by the motto “why buy something trying to sound like something else when you can just have the real thing”. The Studio Vintage is the way to go for a real deal quality made English Marshall plexi. The finest amp I’ve ever ran and will likely be my main rig for many many years for life most likely unless I manage to get my hands on a Vintage Plexi one day but that just a dream at this point.
The SVs are double the cost, while not sounding twice as good. The Origin sits right in my budget and sounds incredible in my opinion, after gigging heavily with one for a year now. For the kinds of bar gigs I do, the extra cost of an SV simply isn't justified. This is a real-world journeyman amp. I'll never spend more than a grand for either a guitar or an amp
Is that the TS-9 Tube Screamer?
Yessir. In the Samples where it's listed that I'm boosting with a TS-9 I am indeed using an Ibanez TS-9 Tube Screamer. Cheers -Ryan
@@Crypticmaskguitar thank you.
Unfortunately the more recent Marshall amps are ending up on electrical engineer repair benches all to often, avoid. 🙂👍🇬🇧
Master volume knobs are worthless. If 50 watt scares you get a blues jr.
I don't like them either. I just crank the master on this and never touch it.
Homie thanks for the video i learn something here. I bought the Origin. Even though bought in Vietnam .