UNMASK Your Mix with Izotope Neutron 4 😱
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Sonible's Smart Comp is a god send for unmasking using it's spectrum side chain. Been out a while now and not a lot of people know about that part of the compressor. When you side chain it, it just acts only as that and ducks all the frequencies that clash out of the way. Lots of adjustment and does a precise job of this task. Check it out if you've not already done so.
damn I own this compressor and didnt know about this
Hi.. Thanks a lot for dropping this trick..I hope it exactly does what Trackspacer does right ?
@@reziahamed6654 it does it better than track spacer. I have both. Smart comp just reduces the frequencies clash and leaves everything else. :-)
Same with soothe2 in sidechain mode. Very fast results but also tweakable. But interesting enough to make me try sonible, thanks for info
@@jonathanoates1972 Thanks loads.. Indeed the smart part has got something special imparted to it.. Unlike trackspacer's cold blooded reverse engineered frequency cut... Cheers mate 👍🤓
Use smooth operator or soothe and sidechain that's a super precise way to unmask works great on everything
Trackspacer is also designed for this, but nice to have it built into Neutron
Anyone else notice how consistent David's mixes are when he using another song he mixed as a reference. It basically just massaged it ever so gently. That's a skill for sure.
For people who have purchased Neutron 3 recently a free upgrade to version 4 is available. I have purchased week ago Neutron 3 and was given the royalty free for Neutron 4. Check your email and download it from the izotope manager. After download, just use the activation and full neutron 4 will be ready to use in your DAW.
I didn't get the email, how recently should it be?
@@dirtyharry1881 9 days ago. Look for email with subject: Your free upgrade to Neutron 4.
U really make these things a lot easier to understand
I would have never know half these features
Izotope everything bundle is such a amazing tool box and now there’s more added with this one.
It might not be a use every time plugin but it’ll definitely be something I’d use a lot for inspiration when I’m not feeling sure about what to do but by what I’m seeing and hearing it definitely wouldn’t be a plugin redundant to only being that.
There’s a couple other companies that are a no brainier “everything bundle” buys and Izotope for me is the surgical and creative monster of the everything bundles
If you buy MPS5 from iZotope, I assume you will also get Ozone 10 and Nectar 4 later this year for just around $400 without additional cost . It's such an amazing opportunity
Ive been producing for a few years and usually send my songs off to a mix engineer. I want to build up my engineering skills so Im about to buy your hip hop course on mixing
Good stuff!
think its the biggest and most useful update since early version 2 of neutron
I've had Neutron for a while now and never really played around with it! Thank you for the great vid, David showing me some of what it's capable of!
The reason there are no “full mix” options in sculptor or the new assistant is because they want you to buy and use Ozone for that! I’ve noticed over time, and I’m sure you have too as a neutron user, how there are a number of ways they built discouraging you from using it on a full mix right into the design. Izotopes vision would be to have neutron an every track, except for the master or mixbus, and that would have ozone on it.
It’s a clever if not sneaky strategy to intentionally not make neutron a complete mixing one stop shop so that they can make ozone relevant to mixing engineers as well as mastering engineers and sell it to them too. They could have full mix options for people who otherwise wouldn’t need ozone, and would send their Unmastered work to a mastering engineer. They created a problem (no full mix options in neutron), and wouldn’t you know it, their solution is their most famous and popular plug-in, ozone. It would be nice to have full mix options in neutron, because as we all know, sometimes you don’t want to actually master your track on the mix bus. Sometimes you just want a decent level, some eq, and a little dynamic control before a later mastering phase. And what about preparing a track to send off for mastering? Ozone even functions as a standalone mastering suite, so iZotope clearly understands that mastering and mixing are separate stages. So it would be cool to see specific tools for the pre-master phases in neutron. But I can see why they don’t do it. I’ve seen people in iZotope educational videos suggest that you just bypass ozone before sending a track off for mastering, and that is nothing if not a more tempting, simpler, and let’s face it, more profitable solution for them, so we probably won’t be seeing any full mix options anytime soon, as cool as that would be. I like the idea that I would have neutron on everything including the mixbus and have features in nutron specifically for the mix bus instance. They already have interplugin communication, so it would be cool to see major control options in like a mix bus tab in neutron. With global control over things like internal side chain routing between instances, unmasking controls, maybe even the option to group various instances of neutron into groups for internal submixing, like put all of the guitars under a single compressor within the neutron mixbus instance. Maybe the ability to open up the eq for two tracks at the same time so you can make adjustments to one that mirror the other, all from within the mixbus instance of neutron… That kind of high level control over the whole project from inside of just the mixbus instance of neutron would be insanely cool, and sounds just like the kind of innovation that is both progressive, and encourages you to do all your mixing within neutron, which all sounds like IZotope to me! Here’s hoping!
Ozone doesn't have a mixing assistant
@@mixbustv well, no, but that’s kinda my point. It does have a mastering assistant, and according to iZotope, they intend you to put ozone on your mixbus and use the mastering assistant to finish your track. So there’s nothing inbetween neutron for individual tracks and ozone for mastering. It would be nice if neutron had something like a “mix prep assistant” for getting a mix in shape TO THEN SEND to ozone.
Another great video. Thanks
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Thanks for the review!. the unmasking feature seems to be the most interesting one but imho soothe2 is still way superior so I'll pass this upgrade..
I absolutely fail to understant wth soothe has to do with this lol
@@mixbustv Thanks for the response 💙.
Soothe 2 has a sidechain option which is incredibly good at unmasking frequencies. It is not as straight forward as this one but that also allows you to have way more control.
Cheers!
Soothe can be fed a side chain…and therefore you can easily duck frequencies based on another tracks source. Entirely similar to unmasking in Neutron.
@@ericpassmore3068 exactly
Thanks David!
Analyzer is Really cool lookin
I got the whole neutron 3 bundle but couldn't use it, it was too heavy foe my CPU.
I had the subscription for a few months and while I liked the plugins, they were in-fact very CPU heavy. No problem running various plugs from various different developers but one instance of Izotope would really make my system strain. The final straw for me was when I went to apply a izotope plugin one day and it wouldn't recognize my login info etc. At that point I was done and cancelled my subscription.
Great video and tutorial.
Thanks for the info. However, you often say links for specific products are in the description, but I often don't find those links there.
Because I'm dump and if my assistant doesn't do it, I forget. There is the link now tho'
@@mixbustv Heh! Thanks.
Hey dude you mind explaining how to make unmask work on Reaper?!
did they finally make it Hi DPI compliant? meaning can you scale up the UI if you have trouble reading the tiny text on a high resolution monitor?
Yes
I have Neutron 2. I might upgrade to Neutron 4
Greetings from Florida. Just dropping a line about some concerns i have with Stam Audio customer service that people might like to know. Purchased a 76D last week, and emailed to ask about status of my order (they were supposed to have the units in stock, two days and still no response from Stam??
Neutron 3 advanced is great, but i don't wanna buy the version 4. Is not worth the money ($150 upgrade).
in which place of the vocal chain would you place the unmask module? at the beginning or the end?
1st
Wow amazing
Neutron is the only plugin from Izotope that I see no need to have.
You produced that reggae? Excellent.
I only mixed and mastered it
In the installation process of Ozone 9 it shows an alien face.
Hey David, how would you compare the unmask function of neutron with plugins like trackspacer or soothe (when it comes to unmasking exercises)? Thank you in advance 🙏
I'm not sure why people compare it to soothe, has very little to do with it. I don't use trackspacer so I can't comment, but this works suprisignly well
@@mixbustv thanks for the quick reply 👍 btw great video as always
@@mixbustv you should give Trackspacer a demo. It’s FAST. Use cases: want to duck everything below 80hz from the bassline when the kick triggers, but not duck the upper harmonic info that communicates the bass note itself. Takes literally seconds to setup on a track and works beautifully. Quick sidechain multiband comp. Love it :)
@@mrnelsonius5631 I'm sure it's great, I personally don't use any of these automated system for "making" space
@@mixbustv that’s why I think you might like it. It’s not automated. You pick the freqs to be attenuated by the side chain signal and the amount. It’s a basic “ducker” but you choose the freq range yourself. I suspect because of your experience you have an established workflow for this kind of thing with other tools. Trackspacer just makes it fast and easy IMO, no black box magic going on :)
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What is the name of the song Sir
Hi David and thank you very much for your great review! I'm a Console 1 user (mainly ssl 4000 model) since 5 years... but I'm starting to mix a lot during my trips. I cannot afford to bring with me the Console 1 controller and without it, I'm not familiar at all with the basic console 1 interface (no spectrum analyzer...etc...). Do you think I could move to Neutron 4 as a main channel strip without sacrificing quality? I mean, since you have both Neutron and Softube channel strips, do you fell somehow "limited" by using neutron in terms of sound quality? thank you so much
Neutron is great but it would be a bit cpu intensive to use on every channel, and you won't have the same workflow or functions of an SSL ch because well, it's an ssl channel. That doesn't mean you coudn't mix with this one but it might be too cpu intensive for every channel
@@mixbustv Well, I've just finished some tests and I'm glad to report that, as far as CPU goes, Neutron 4 is not eating up my CPU much more than other C.S.... I have put Neutron 4 (fully loaded) in 130 channels and during the playback the CPU is hitting 78%...
Cubase is still fully usable.
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- MacBook Pro M1 pro
- Cubase 12 in Rosetta mode
- 2048 Samples
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check it out though, How do you hear so well, sometimes when im watching and listening even in headphones, I have such a hard time hearing what compressors do, eq and all that im fine but for some reason compressors are just soaring past my head lol? Is this something you had to train yourself on or am i deaf from playin drums lol?
Keep in mind you are listining through youtube; the audio is compressed (the audio data) on youtube to save space, decrease load times and data transfer. Among other things: all audio information above 16k is removed.
Also the audio is normalized to keep levels consistant between videos - basically limited/hard compressed. This may make compression differences especially difficult to hear.
That is why he often exaggerate the settings, so we can hear it through the youtube algorithem. Try listening to the same track on youtube and on soundcloud/tidal. Some tracks sounds waaay different.
He is listening to the raw audio which makes differences much more obvious.
The other part is just experience. Your ears and brain will eventually learn exactly what to listening for.
People will talk about it for 2 months and it will disappear as usual. The UI is to complicated .. All of these plugins just tweak the eq and volume and we buy them thinking it’s a new piece of gold.
If you don't understand how to use a tool doesn't mean others won't lol
How is it CPU wie. Neutron 3 war really heavy on CPU. It is improved?
Don't know, I don't really look at CPU, on my computer nothing is really heavy ever
I like BEEFI fat sounds in the sterio field 😌❤️
Is this plugin very CPU intensive?
Some say yes, I have no idea, my cpu doesn't move but I also have a very powerful PC
Does the EQ have M/S mode? ... I couldnt find
No
It is not worth the update, you can use other tools for unmasking and tone shapers
Pretty cool, but fabfilter proq3 is still better for unmasking for me.
Whats your process? Just add to the visual and manualy adjust or are you using the eq match some way?
@@Mdjagg let's say I have a vocal and a lead tracks that collide and I want to make some room for the vocal. I sidechain vocal channel to the lead channel and I add a proq3 to that lead channel. Then in the processing of proq3 you have to set the sidechain. Now in the analyzer of that proq3 instance you can see the spectrum of your lead and your vocal frequencies together and the colliding frequencies are marked in red, so you can now adjust the eq. My explanation is probably bad, so search youtube for fabfilter proq3 unmasking. It's worth it
Even with the dynamic eq engaged, is not even close to the same thing as this. Whether or not one works better than the other is to be seen case by case
@@mixbustv yeah Im not saying it’s the same. Neutron’s approach is more like Trackspacer’s.
@@cottoo1 Yeah, you can actually do this with less steps by having ProQ3 on both tracks (even if one doesn't have any active bands). With both tracks having ProQ3, just click on the Analyzer tab and select the other track in the internal sidechain area. Now both are visible in the analyzer.
So, cool. Sounds like you just do it manually like me. And to David's point, the Neutron 4 is a dynamic process, vs a manual static adjustment. So, apples and oranges sort of.
Not buying another neutron especially now that I know how to mix. It’s a lot of cpu intensive junk compared to what they say it does.
What computers are you guys running to complaing about CPU use?
man I gotta be deaf...on videos like this I dont hear the difference when theyre moving settings up and down
Yes, go-ahead! Use Neutron use Ozone use Midi Packs and in 2 years all songs will sound the same 🤣🤣🤣🤣🙈🙉