@@bobsinhav We will always need oil but we should NOT be wasting it on transportation when there is a more viable option. Oil will not last forever or are you the kind of person who doesn’t want to be inconvenienced in your lifetime?
Batteries bad. Batteries expensive. Batteries toxic. All these arguments will go away. Batteries are getting cheaper and more efficient and new battery materials are less and less toxic. Less scarce materials
I live in a small town in rural northeast Colorado. My wife and I decided to enter our 2024 Hyundai Kona Electrics in the annual car show this last weekend. I was surprised at all the positive responses we got. Most people assumed that the cars were way more expensive than they were, largely based on misinformation. When we told them the price and the cost to charge, they were impressed. We charge almost exclusively at home, so our $120+ monthly gas bill has turned to maybe $20 to charge. We've gone on one road trip so far. It was a 900-mile round trip to South Dakota. Even with the horrible charging infrastructure there, we were never at risk of running out of power. The money we've saved in gas has already paid for our level 2 charging setup.
@ I planned the trip before we left. There weren’t a lot of places to charge along the way, so I wanted to make sure we didn’t get stranded on our first road trip.
@@mkgearhead5151 7 years ago I was a little worried the first trip too. After that never gave it a thought. Charge at home 90% of the time. $0.08 a kwh Cheers.
If apter and lucid were to collaborate on tech together in order to make a cheaper open sourced electric car based off of Lucide Pure GT model that would be my ideal electric car if these companies are serious about wanting to convince me to buy one
From Norway here and I own two EV's. Temperature is getting down to -25 Celsius here during winter and I have no problems with my EV's during that time. Summer range is +400km. Winter range is around +300km.
Same here. Summer range on my car is 450-480 km. Winter range in proper cold sinks to about 350-360 km. Which is still fine for my needs. Even during winter, I have to stop to take a break before the car needs to charge.
I lose about 10 to 15% here in the UK. It doesn't get below freezing that often and I have a heat pump. During short trips ICE car fuel consumption is down by 33%% in cold weather
6:34: I've road-tripped in our EVs multiple times. It's pretty comfortable and enjoyable. We leave with a full battery and take bathroom breaks while charging. More often than not, our car charges faster than we can go to the bathroom, pick up some food, and get back to the car.
If you aren't in a rush. This tech can't replace diesel trucks that have to go from northern Maine to southern California The best diesel trucks can go 2k miles without stopping to fuel up
@@maherjoey At least in Europe, truckers have to take mandatory breaks long before their truck runs out of diesel. Charging during the breaks is a no-brainer. Do we really want truckers to drive for hours on end without any rest? Where I live, that's downright illegal. And the first charging sites created specifically for trucks are starting to show up. Electric trucks are already a thing here, and their development has only started.
@@maherjoeyUS Federal regulations limit the duration of how many hours a truck driver can operate his rig. 2K miles without stopping isn’t legal. I suggest looking up the pros and cons of electrified trucks and you’ll see that electrification drastically improves driver comfort, safety and uphill power. Further, periodic charging coincide with mandated driving breaks. The cost of fuel savings are significant enough, in themselves, to transform trucking.
I often tell ICE owners, in essence it takes me no time to charge. By the time I go into Walmart to buy extra supplies for the trip and go to the bathroom, my charging is done.
Did an experiment last month: I drive about 550 miles south every 2 months in my model 3. My 6sp ICE car used to take me 9 hrs. Last trip I treated each charge stop as a gas stop: Timed it prior to aprox 12-15 min. Plug in, walk in and pee, get coffee and snack, back to car then stretch for 3 min to simulate filling my tank. Then unplug and drive off. Made it in 9 hrs! EXACTLY the same. Now, anything over say, 600 miles, then I'd have to spend a longer charge stop to build up enough range buffer since I"m not topping off each time. I have a 200 mph bladder. So if you have a 400 mile bladder, then more power to you. But I have to pull over and stretch every 2-3 hours. In summary: again... all this is BS. Just don't buy an EV if you don't want one. ... ugh...
You pointed out an important thing . . . you plugged in and went to pee. With an ICE car, you must stay with the pump until finished fueling and only then go into the station and pee. So plug in and pee does not take that much longer than pump and pee so long as you are only putting in enough electricity to take you to your next pee break. However, as you also pointed out, with an ICE car several of your stops would be for a pee break only. That said, with either an ICE car or an EV most of the time lost in this scenario is in getting off the highway, parking, and going into the station to pee.
Most stress/tiring that happens in travel is due to the noise. You feel much less stressed/tired if the mode you traveled were less noisy. You arrive less tired/stressed in EV. The second bit is about how assisted was the drive. Tesla reduce that aspect of stress too to a huge extend if you use Tesla to its best capabilities.
The anti-EV videos spreading misinformation are getting clicks at the moment, some youtubers will do whatever gets clicks. It'll all die off soon enough, facts always win the day. Great video Ben. Glad you are taking it on, on behalf of all the people who deserve to breathe clean air. Keep up the good work
The problem is you are brainwashed by Ben and his views that are paid for by Tesla and other paid propagandist. The main stream media is left by far. They are the ones reporting these things also. Ben is twisting the facts just as bad. Look up resale on EVs. It is dropping, because the fan boys who bought up Tesla's abd such all own them already. New sales have slowed. It's not a lie. Yes sales across the board have, but ev's in particular. The data is there. Look it up and read the whole thing. Not the headline. The fact is. Appts are the push. They have a handful of chargers for hundreds of units. Good luck. You prob face these issues a d just overlook it as well I'm doing gods work and saving the environment. No you aren't. Until the infrastructure is set up the push for evs is not saving anything. Look at California saying please don't charge your evs during the day just a couple years ago. The infrastructure is not there and so t be for a time still. I'm in the power industry. I see it first hand.
@@maddominican879 The opposite is true. People are buying EVs because they are so reliable. In the rare event that a cell fails in the battery pack, just that one cell would need to be replaced, not the whole battery.
EV battery manufacturers are working hard to reduce the rare earth minerals in the batteries. BUT they will always need to use cobalt to refine petrol and diesel.
Cobalt is used as a catalyst in refining operations. It helps remove sulfur (and maybe other impurities) from the hydrocarbon stream. In theory no cobalt is consumed in the reaction, but in practice some will be lost to erosion and flaws in the recycling process. It takes about 1 pound of cobalt to remove the sulfur from 80,000 gallons of petroleum products, like gasoline. 80,000 gallons would power a car for about 2.4 million miles, but 98.8% of that cobalt is recoverable, meaning we permanently lose only a pound of cobalt for every 6.6 million gallons we refine.
I always prefer ev for my road trips. This guy and so many others have no clue what they are talking about. Usually im with a girlfriend and with their bathroom stop frequncy, my battery is always charged on road trips 😂
I Have a Nissan Leaf in Norway its only 30KWH, but we live in the city of Bergen. With the insentives and cheap power we only drive like 20-30 miles each day And have a charger in the garage. We dont ever think about distance at all. From the old gasolin car we had. We saved like 70% total on the whole each month! On Long trips we just rent a car. Usually 1 to 2 times a year.😂😂 BTW Will I love your channel ❤
Yup. Anytime I'm road-tripping it's with passengers and people always want a bathroom break every couple hours (usually my girlfriend, who chugs drinks in the car). The break takes about 10 minutes, which is enough to recover the charge we spent in the last 2 hours, so we can go forever at exactly the same rate we would in a gas car. The only difference is less noise, better tech, no fumes, and way cheaper.
@@catbert7 Is it actually cheaper if charging on the go? Home charging is cheap, but here in Europe fast charging generally costs about the same as petrol/diesel now. Is public charging cheaper in the states (I know fuel is)?
@@xxwookey I have travelled through germany and neighbour countries in a tesla, used fast chargers. Spent twice less than an economic diesel would cost. When charging at home, from own solar roof, it's virtually free.
One thing missed at 11:30 about emissions just being shifted to dirty emissions outside of the city is forgetting that once we're on electric, we have the opportunity to use clean energy options. Got a charger at home? You can get solar, and drastically cut back emissions for general use, and likely only use dirty energy on road trips when you have to use public chargers.
I agree, any how much of the wired infrastructure comes from wind and hydro, other clean sources. With adoption and scale brings new ideas that combat the "dirty energy". How bout everyone have solar and storage"bi-directional EV" on there property. I digress.
You have no clean energy options. You don't get to segregate which electrons produced in a certain manner. There are not special transmission lines for solar and wind electricity.
@@robertkubrick3738 that's only assuming you're using someone else's solar or wind energy. What is absolutely a possibility is installing your own of both (but likely solar). You can do that and sever your tie to the grid and guarantee clean energy for your personal use. You can still have a grid tied system to offset the energy you use with clean energy, and if you think that is no different than just using whatever the powerplants use, you're either ignorant or trying to be an argumentative contrarian.
Newsflash: ICE cars are not as efficient in the winter, either. When I had a diesel car, I was getting 60+ mpg in the summer. That figure would plummet to around 45 mpg in winter. I'm never going back to fossil fuel.
For me, absolutely worst is smell ... when it's not windy and air stays low, you can smell it everywhere. Cheaper or not, greener or not, this one is winner for me - no smell. It is crazy how we got used to smelling carcinogenic stuff and don't care abut it.
And notice when the news cycle was all about EV's freezing in Chicago last winter that not one of them mentioned the number of gas or diesel vehicles that would not start either because their fuel froze or THEIR batteries had died.
In my area, they change the fuel formulation 12 times a year with up to 12% alcohol in the winter. Guess what alcohol does? It burns substantially faster which is how they clean up the exhaust fumes in the cold climate but it also destroys the MPGs. Something the anti EV crowd will never mention. Your 30mpg car will be at best 25mpg in the winter.
I used to watch him when he showed apartments in New York, showing what you get for the price. Recently (2 years?), he has found a new angle on immigration and homelessness in New York to bring in the clicks. He's a total sell-out if you ask me.
@@craigs34 Cash jordan is all about clicks for cash. He posts super click-baity videos about whatever subject he thinks will get him the most clicks and cash.
When I see an EV hit piece like this, I’m reminded that my EV which I charge at home and commute 150 miles a day cost me half as much as as a gas & deisel car and I get to use all the commuter lanes. Oh, and my Insurence is less, my maintenance is less, and my hassles and problems have been gone for years. But,hey, if you want to wallow in fear and misinformation, you be you. I’ll take the $5000 dollars a year bonus. More for me.
Exactly. I had driven my 4Runner for 7 years and 120,000 miles. I had spent $25,000 on gas! I bought a Tesla model 3 Long Range AWD 3 weeks ago and after 1000 miles spent $35 on electricity. After 120,000 I will be saving over $20k compared to my 4Runner!
And how long do you think that battery will last? My 2006 lexus just hit 200k miles and the engine is still in amazing condition.i gotta wait to see how reliable it would be in 10-20 years.
My greatest fear is that RUclips and social media in general will continue to trend towards the most provocative and outrageous content because it just seems to work in attracting viewers into a certain tribal bubble. A well reasoned and honest fact based attempt to present a position that isn’t overly biased takes time and effort and I thank you for doing just that. Best wishes!
I think it's a fact. If you consume extremists stuff Google RUclips ect pp will lead you to more. For my budget there aren't used EVs with sufficient range I want. (About 65-70% of my gasoline car) People always argue that I don't need that much. Okay for a massive discount I would choose less. That's true.😅
the anti-EV thing is at a peak right now. I am like, its a car. You buy it, you don't but it. There are all kinds of options out there. EVs will co-exist with gas cars for many years to come. So, what is the big deal here? Most EVs don't even advertise (Tesla, Rivian, Lucid) except for the legacy brands. Legacy automakers are scaling back their EV plans, because they failed so miserably at it. They gave Tesla a free run for almost a decade and when Lucid/Rivian emerged, being successful (read not profitable yet), and the legacy car makers realized their roadmap just didn't cut it. The way they are scaling back is to save the corporate HS because of leadership failure. They are saving their bonuses by spinning this story on the market. The truth is, EVs and gas cars will co-exist for a very long time from now on. It will be a matter of choice for many. The phasing out won't happen no matter how hard states try. Sales have started to flatten a bit because everyone who wanted to buy an EV already bought one. Reply
Not true. As ev become cheaper a new marked opens. Very soon BYD will purchase the Chrysler, Dodge, and Jeep brands to mak4e ev on the US avoiding the tarifts. BYD will sell ev at around $25 K and they are superior to any ICE. The legacy auto industry in the US will go BOOM very shortly. The more the middle class income family is being crushed the more it need an ev in their homes. Used ev are now a bargain. They have 2 to 3 years old and the batteries last 20 years.
@@EnriqueAThieleSolivan Maybe, maybe not. An American legacy brand being owned by a Chinese EV brand - not really sure how that will be perceived here (another blame on Biden as well lol). Charging infrastructure is the biggest problem. Especially in cities. In Europe, they have chargers basically everywhere, not just charging stations. The US is a long way from it and given the negativity towards EV, governments will hesitate to implement them quickly.
@@artistsinmotion3118 The problem is that biased Western media picks and chooses what to tell us about EVs vs. ICE vehicles, because they have their elite green* agenda to push. * EVs aren't so "green" after all.
I’m reminded of the phrase…”telling a truth in order to support a lie”. This is a common tactic in political arguments and hard to refute unless one knows the overall industry and as you have done, point out how a specific fact has been cherry picked, or in many cases these days, the fact being presented is now significantly outdated. Thanks for these videos as I am constantly coming across these misconceptions in conversations with ICE owners.
@@rp9674 How to Lie with Statistics should be available to every student in the country. It actually shows how statistics are misused, whether maliciously or ignorantly. For instance "No other tooth paste cleans your teeth better than X" does not mean that X is better than all of the other prooducts;; they may be all the same and it could equally be phrased No other toothpaste cleans your teeth as poorly as X" It was written, I believe, in the 50s and needs some updating, since a lot of the examples need historical footnotes.
It’s the oil pocket senator talking about EV sales being down and being disappointed when the secretary of transportation points out that down quarter over quarter is meaningless because auto sales are seasonal, and the reality is that they EV sales haven’t stopped going up year over year, *even in the US*
This is good, but a similar cost Tesla may cost more. Chevy doesn’t have a locked out system with few independent shops and you do have to name what you drove before hand . Also changing insurers can also decrease costs
@@jokulhaups309 Yup - we also bought a top spec Bolt after the quote for a similarly priced entry level Tesla model 3 with a similar range was going to cost us almost three times as much for insurance!
I love the "If" cases. I own 2 EVs. Coworker asked me "What if I have to go to Montana when it is -30F? What are you going to do? I am 49 years old, lived in PA and VA my whole life. I've never been to Montana and don't have a need. But sure "WHAT IF!!!".
Great answer! Another one might be, “I would drive there…and maybe charge a little more often.”🤷🏻♂️. I drove from Seattle to Dallas for the eclipse last spring straight through no hotel stops. Great trip no prob!
I live in Regina Saskatchewan Canada, that's in the prairies, I've owned a model YLR since 2022 and I drive 62km per day to work (164km round trip), even when it's -40c with absolutely no issues, yes the range goes down about 30% at those Temps but it's still enough range to and from work. I plug into a 120v which keeps the battery warm then drive home 10hrs later. I use 55 to 60% of my battery, depends on the wind to travel to and from work, at a 80% charge limit. At the most we get maybe 2 weeks of constant-40c temp for the winter season which is long.
Yeah he definitely doesn't know what he is talking about. An EVSE will never deliver more power than the car handle because that is controlled by the car. I charge my Bolt EUV on 150kw and 350kw EA chargers and they never exceed the 55kw my Bolt can handle. I love the FUD busting. Keep it up.
Another interesting fact is that oil refineries use Cobalt to de-sulfinate petroleum. New batteries will not use Cobalt. Sulfur is a corrosive chemical element that will ruin an ICE engine if not removed.
Tesla batteries already are made without cobalt. It’s funny when people bring up child labor mining of cobalt as a reason not to buy a Tesla when that’s never been a thing.
The bottom line is this; there are new battery technologies that are emerging that are safer, more environmentally friendly, cheaper, charge faster, and have significantly longer ranges. People will buy EVs because they offer a lifestyle improvement. ... and China will be making all the money in the EV market because US politicians who are unable to foresee the future and unable to learn from the past will drag their feet trying to protect big oil.
China also has a much better energy grid... They have > 1MV high voltage DC cables going from west where it is produced to east, where it is used. I think they are probably already #1 on the world on green energy production. In the EU we only have one super high voltage DC cable. I think from Morocco going to the UK. In the USA the high voltage is not as high and it is all AC. AC coupling of energy production is a lot harder than DC coupling of energy production. But then again, for super high voltage DC you also need a lot of electronics and AC couplings is very old technology.
@@horseathalt7308 There was a recent story about the discovery of a lithium deposit in the US which is said to have enough to satisfy the total world demand for the next 125 years. Well before then we should have mandatory recycling of Lithium batteries as well as solar panels and any rare earth elements in the magnets.
@@jameshorn270 recycling of lithium and other similar metals in batteries is a very toxic and dangerous job, on a large scale it will be even more dangerous. Not practical at all in the long run.
@@horseathalt7308 BS. If nothing else, robotics may well take over the most hazardous handling issues, and fire is the main issue. Just make sure your recycling centers are isolated. Manufacturing fertilizer is also dangerous (See West, Texas disaster) yet there are plants all over the country.
@@jameshorn270 They have been manufacturing fertilizer for a looong time and the process is very simple too. Totally different thing than heavy metal recycling.
So many lies. Electric car sales are growing every year. I own a Tesla Y. Phenomenal car. Number one selling car in the US and Europe. Half of all cars sold in China are electric.
Well, even if Americans are refusing to buy EVs, (they're not), so what? Americans are 4.2% of the world's population so who cares? The rest of us will carry on buying EVs regardless.
A friend started talking trash about EVs and the first thing he said was about the wear on brake pads. I stopped him immediately and schooled him on one pedal driving. I admitted that older and perhaps cheaper new models didn't have one pedal features. I had to explain how they work and that brake pads will last a very long time on that this kind of system. The gas guy failed to mention that in cities especially, the poison emitted by ICE vehicles are a major cause of breathing problems of children. Children are much closer to the tail pipes. The point about the EV industry's awareness of the battery ingredients is on point. They ARE racing to develop safer, lighter, and less expensive products. The petroleum industry can't say the same. That's why they feel tearing down the upstart kid on the block is their best way to survive.
Wear on brake pads? I heard that there's also excessive wear on their engines because you never have to change oil. Must be lots of oil sludge in there.
@@chenyansong I'm looking forward to procuring a '22 Bolt EUV soon. 🫰🏻 Can't wait to make my Mom jealous of the lack of brake pad use when I engage in regen braking so much of the time.
Who drives 800 miles in a day, or even 400? Most people are driving 30 miles a day. Even my 2016 fiat 500e which is very very slow charging, will charge 40 miles in an hour, which is just about perfect for shopping at the grocery store or ikea, and that is more than enough to get me home where I have a charger.
I’ve seen some of cash Jordan’s videos on other topics and he sure does love to gaslight viewers. You can really spot the lack of research on his videos
The 'Big Oil' rant is also another cheap FUD vilification moniker IMO. I think the most likely segment with a serious anti-EV stance will be traditional ICE dealer service arms and old-school mechanics who see the end of their highly profitable practice of maintaining complex combustion engines and drive trains! Most old school oil companies pivoted more than a decade ago into energy companies. Most now have significant investments into solar, wind, wave, hydro, hydrogen, biomass and geothermal energy. Many are now making a lot of money supplying electrical grids. Take a look at today's forecourts - the gas pumps are still there but you will also often find groups of EV chargers too.
I got rid of my model S 2 weeks ago. But im keeping my jaguar XJl. Love the 3 minutes of fueling for a range of 570 miles which supersedes any EV in America. Come in more than handy when making the 831 mile trip from Lancaster Pennsylvania to Jacksonville Florida. It doesn't matter how many times i stop for what ever reason, i only have to stop once to fuel, up and out in 3 minutes. This is one out of many long distance traveling i do every year. Sorry but Keep the EV till they are greatly improved....
I think a bigger reason that used EV's prices have fallen is that NEW EV prices are falling to more reasonable levels. E.g., Model 3's are now in Camry/Accord territory, so used ones are dropping to more reasonable levels as the "first adopter" premium is worked out.
I'm from Germany and I love driving Tesla E cars. I'm a car mechanic and painter master, so I'm certainly qualified enough to say that E cars are the future. But unfortunately we also have a lot of populists in Germany who keep speaking out against them in order to prevent the future. And they do this purely for their own benefit and to make the oil industry even richer and to continue to pollute the world.
Waste is very profitable. The more things are streamlined and simplified, the less jobs there are to support that industry and that’s been the fear ever since the Industrial Revolution.
1) I drive an Ioniq 6 and when it was 4 degrees F outside I only lost 1extra percent on my whole days useage. 2) charging is only an issue on long trips. Yes, the infrastructure has a way to go, but it’s getting better. I’ve had the car for 9 months and only charged away from home maybe 12 times, and only once did it feel like it was burning time I didn’t want to spare. 3) the carbon output argument is played out. 4) do you own stainless steel pots and pans or a cell phone? Those also require cobalt. 5) Ioniq 6 has normal sized wiper blades. I can go to any auto parts store and replace them myself. 6) my insurance went up just about $100 per year going from a $20k Mazda to a $50k Ioniq 6. 7) granted, where I live broken chargers can be a bit of an issue. I often find one broken out of a set of 4 chargers and it’s almost always been physically abused. So an anti EV sentiment causes people to break chargers, which they then use as an excuse against chargers,… anyone else see the circular fallacy there?
Cash is right, he is talking about here in New York. The only people I know that is buying an EV is my sister whose job let her charge the Tesla for free. For the rest of us, there is no at-home charging and almost no destination charger. NYTimes ran an article on 2023.03.05 showing the 5 boroughs have far less EV adaption rate than Jersey, Connecticut, and Long Island because of this issue. And no, light pole chargers are not the solution. It's New York; those chargers will be vandalized in weeks Downplay a legitimate barrier to EV adaption is not exactly a good way to promote EV and disparaging people that raise the issue is "frankly low".
The number of EV’s on the road in NYC doesn’t care that it’s really hard to own one in the 5. It’s every 4-5 car in Manhattan. Mainly because of black Uber model y’s.
In NYC a lot of us live in buildings, where do we charge our car? It’s a hassle. If charging was more accessible in the 5 boroughs. Sales would be higher of ev.
Just FUD Here in our country, PHEV BYD Sea Lion 6 DM-i just released few weeks ago and now in a mass queue reservation with almost 600 units. EV and PHEV are skyrocketing in sales actually
Yeah right, you spend $40K to $100K to save an average of $1,200 a year, when a pre owned Corolla can cost the average guy $5K to $12K. If you total the savings/costs, that means an EV guy will have spent $30K more in one year than the gas car, and the EV guy will have to drive around for the next 25 years to equal the savings from the gas cars. Now if you add EV pricing of those over $80K to $200K, you would need from 70 years to 180 years to equal the savings of a gas powered old pre owned Corolla. Yeah I call bullshit on that "saving money on gas" quote. I've never met ONE single person struggling with money driving around in EVs, all the EV owners I've met have lots of money to throw away. Why is it that all the illegal immigrants that migrate to the U.S. looking for work immediately buy gas powered old pre owned pickup trucks and old beat up Toyota, Honda and Nissan rather than EVs? Remember that next time you vote Blue/Pro illegal immigration to "save the environment"
My state, Illinois, does charge almost twice as much for yearly plates for EV, and when I switched my liability insurance from a Focus to a Bolt my rates did go up a fair margin. That part is a reality thing. Time is money, taking 6 times the time or more to refill range can be a deal breaker for quite a few.
If EVs are so great, why does the government need to ban gasoline cars in 2035 to get people to buy them? The government didn’t have to ban VHS players; as better technologies emerged, people simply stopped buying them without any government coercion. If you want an EV and can afford it you can purchase one. Just don't force me to buy one.
@@EpicDrew15 The Biden administration made emission standards which are impossible to meet with out Electric Cars. That is why the big three are making EVs despite losing huge amounts of money on each one made. They are worried about the future. Progressive state governments have also made outright bans on gasoline cars to kick in in 2035.
" ... why does the government need to ban gasoline cars in 2035 ... ?" It's the California State government that's doing that, not the Federal government, so if you don't live in California it won't apply to you. Californians want everyone to drive electric cars to cut down on smog. California's geography, with tall mountains on the eastern side, tends to catch and hold air pollution but EVs don't release smog-forming pollutants.
It's more of trying to accelerate the growth because the timeline on climate damage is getting shorter. Also, they are banning new car sales on ICE (you can still drive existing ones and its not a federal mandate. Its most states. Federal did set a goal, but it's just a goal to reach and not a strict line. Like transitions to Real IDs that keep getting pushed back for full adoption, it will likely be the same.
Here in New Zealand we own 2 EVs and love them. We managed to get our latest EV before the new government scrapped the EV subsidy. The new government have also introduced (Road User Charge RUC) a per km tax on EVs at the same cost as that already paid by diesel vehicles under 3.5T which don't pay tax at the pump. The government accidentally voted in a reduction to the RUC for PHEVs by 50%. The RUC has increased the running cost of EVs here by ~200% when charging from home (1,000km : power $27, RUC $78), but it's still cheaper than an equivalent petrol car, but about the same cost as running a hybrid, but more expensive than a PHEV. As a result of these government changes, EV registrations YTD are 70% down on the same period last year and EV dealerships are struggling to sell existing inventories imported before the subsidy was scrapped and have reduced the puchases prices massively. E.g. VW ID4 before the subsidy $79,990 NZD and now $59,990. Pure hybrids sales are slightly up on the same period last year.
Couldn't they take a 10% road charge from the tires instead of adding it to the fuel? Why do they have to check your kms? Also, this measure is meant to punish anybody who buys an EV, you don't need to check on kms of people buying gas cars. That's a clear case of discrimation. I'm sure there's a legal case to be made for this.
@@bytemark6508 Diesel vehicles have paid RUC since 1978 when Road User Charge was introduced. They do not pay duty/tax at the pump. Due to EVs not paying duty/tax, they now pay RUC too. KMs are checked annually at the WoF/MoT. A per km charge for driving a vehicle is the fairest, unfortunately the government haven't implemented it for everyone, so at the moment a few efficient petrol, or hybrid vehicle is cheaper to run than an EV, especially with petrol prices going down at the moment.
I noticed an uptick in new RUclips accounts about 9 months ago that are specifically producing FUD about BEV's, I think we are at the stage of big oil fighting : : “First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.” ............2030 is doomsday for gas/diesel. The nail in the coffin for gas/diesel will be transportation as a service. This year in the largest car market in the world BEV is at 50%. The bad batch of batteries were all from LG Chem, this is has been fixed. As for insurance rates when you insure with Tesla Insurance some rates are 40% less than regular insurance companies (Nerd Wallet), I think must be due largely due to the fact that Tesla can get parts at cost and they can more accurately model the risk due to having ALL the data.
The range and efficiency of a gas car also drops when it's cold. Cobalt is also needed to refine petrol. Modern petrol cars NEW are also expensive. Modern petrol cars also have infotainment systems with bad software. Modern petrol cars are half way of an EV already in most regards, except for the actual drive train. Yes, they can pull through longer distances, but they eat away on gas in city settings and smaller distance travel because the engine is super inefficient in stop and go and short distances. EVs are superb in those categories, but looking at highway distances suddenly becomes the norm when the average person drives through a city or from one village to another. No solution is perfect, but somehow people expect EVs to suddenly not only match what they have now with petrol, but for them to also be better in every way. And that simply makes no sense. I shouldn't expect an apprentice to be better than the master when picking applicants. And in the tech world I should never expect one singular technical achievement to outperform an established solution withing a few years if the other tech had decades and in this case even more than a century of innovation and daily use. All that said, EVs do have issues. Charging is a mess with errors and a clustered system of how and what to pay, new standards come every few years (CCS -> nacs) andthe cars have a lot of bloat in them that makes them expensive or inefficient simply because the car makers want to cater to a certain audience. I'd much prefer 16" wheels over some of the 20" ones for efficiency or the option to not have massage seats but still ventilation if that means I get to safe 2000-3000 in optional extras almost per option. I don't NEED electric trunk openers, indoor RGB-LEDs, high end speaker systems, electric back mirrors, massage seats, an electricly dimmed panoramic roof, a drink heater in my cup holder and much much more. I don't even need most of the driving assistance, though it is nice to have and 360 cams for parking are great. But If cars were more modular, a tad smaller (think VW ID.3) and had longer software support, things would look a lot differently on the car side already.
I’m visiting LA for the month and I charge up at a Flo two blocks away. If I had to fast charge each time it would have made this trip miserable. These street chargers are fantastic.
Cobalt is used as a CATALYST in the refining process. Catalysts typically don't get consumed by the reactions they catalyze. I looked this up a year or so ago and found that there IS some loss of cobalt, but it's far from "used once" levels.
I switched from a Range Rover to a Tesla. I average 25-30K miles per year. Could a small car that is an ICE car give longer range, sure. But the comfort isn’t there. I know because we still have a Toyota. I felt beat up on my drive from MI to VA. In the Tesla I find stopping ever 180-200 mimes is good for the body as I make rest stops bathroom stops, walk around to stretch my legs and get better blood flow. By time I’m finished charging, I have physically recharged as well. I get in the road again refreshed. But I significantly spend-less on fuel ( fuel is fuel whether electric or petroleum).
Ben , I agree 100% with your piece. This guy is trying to mislead his viewers big time! I own two Teslas and consider it a massive convenience to be able to charge at home every night instead of filling up at a gas station. I’ve also done multiple trips from SJ to LA (350 mi, 1 charging stop) and SJ to Seattle (850 mi, 3 charging stops).
As far nyc Ben doesn’t understand the problem. Plus the the some chargers randomly break down. Two garages in nyc 150kw the ccs is broken for months and the chademo is the only side. Working
@@maddominican879yup. That infrastructure will be the main thing that slows the complete takeover of EVs as they become the less expensive option. But it is true that car ownership in general is often not practical or wise for NYC apartment residents
@@snakevenom4954 do you have a source for burning crude oil? I didn't think any plant did it, except oil refineries to get rid of stuff they can't use...
@@snakevenom4954 the only source I read said burning crude for electricity is very rare (except in OPEC countries)... And is the largest source of VOCs.
I agree with you Ben. I asked the condominium to put a charging station in the condominium garage when I ordered an electric car. The housing cooperative installed a charging station for me and I use it almost exclusively. I charge my EV to 70% for daily use overnight to keep the battery cool and maximize its life.
So, I recently subbed to comment on a video. I am a person reluctant to get a BEV . This video did a great job highlighting the bias of another content creator, as well as regional issues that would affect any car owner. For some context, the main issues I have with BEV's are issues with all new vehicles. The lack of repair information and data mining that are rampant in the industry currently. I'm not a climate denier, nor do I believe that BEV's are dying. I would like to see more retro fitting opportunities because I like my car, and it doesn't need to be scrapped. Tech waste is a thing.
I agree with the data mining, but even ICE cars data mine. It is insane what cars are listening to or giving your position to. And these are ICE cars. Not to mention the phone your carrying. Rather being an EV problem though, its anything with a microchip problem.
@@recursiv its not the miles i think people are concerned with but the degredation of the battery over time sure you could get that about of miles out of it if you did it in a few years.. but what about 10+ years.. how much would the battery degrade in that amount of time.. unless it is assumed that we all swap to newer cars within a few years for new ones
@@donzo4784 Degradation slows down over time. For most cars the capacity will never go below 70%. Combustion cars also lose efficiency over time as the engine wears.
As a previous EV owner, here are the cons: 1) Few public DC fast charging stations in my area of Central California. 2) DC fast chargers often broken upon arriving. Sometimes only one charger is working and there is a long line for it. 3) There are more DC fast charging stations in LA/socal area, but they are often full and there are lines for people waiting to charge. 4) DC Fast chargers regularly charge much slower than the advertised speed. I had to spend 30 minutes to 1 hour at every DC fast charger for my Ioniq 5. 5) L2 charging at home is very expensive and pushes you into a higher kwh rate at home. Residential electricity rates in California and public charging kwh rates in California are sometimes so high that charging the EV costs more than driving a gas car the same distance. 6) The batteries seem to get very hot. The fans often run when the vehicle is charging. 7) Warned that charging to 100% will damage the batteries over time and that I should only charge to 80% on a regular basis. This causes a very decreased range. 8) Most people charge at night, but solar is only generating during the day. The new California net metering agreement causes the solar to not really help with night EV charging (which is when most people are home and charging) 9) In the event of an emergency where you just got home with a low battery and all of a sudden need to drive 100 miles, you are stuck charging at home for hours. If you are lucky your area might have a DC fast charger that you can drive to and then charge for 1 hour to get it fully charged. But basically, you can't just take off to get somewhere on a moment's notice. 10) It is a safety/security hazard if you have to wait in public chargers for a long time, people can walk up and harass you and it is difficult to leave. In an emergency, you have to get out and walk past someone harassing you in order to unplug the charger. You can't just drive away and rip the cord off, the car won't let you. If a similar situation happened at a gas station, you could just drive off with the hose attached. 11) I would not let me wife drive an EV by herself if I knew she would be stuck at a DC fast charger at night. 12) Public fast charging has no restrooms or convenience options when charging at night and the nearby stores are closed. Gas stations usually have bathrooms and a counter with a person working to keep an eye out and also to sell basic necessities. 13) Tires wear out faster. 14) My Ioniq 5 didn't have a way to watch movies or anything on the screen while you waited for charging. I just watched netflix on my phone during that time. 15) Really bad effect on range when driving up a mountain. 16) No easy way to connect a solar panel to the car to provide a slow charge. Would have to use enough solar panels to power an inverter and a 110v L1 charger. Would be better if I can provide just one or two solar panels to a direct DC connection to charge the battery when the vehicle is sitting in the sun all day and not near a charger. pros: 1) fast acceleration 2) if you can charge at home, it is convenient to just plug in at the end of the day and then unplug in the morning. 3) it is pretty quiet 4) No exhaust smells 5) Fewer oil changes. EVs still have oil to change in differential, gearbox, and transmission assemblies. 6) They might sound cool. 7) People compliment you and say you have a cool car.
I love the level of detail you are getting into with the debunking vids. It's awesome to have such a knowledgeable EV guy who is also a data guy on our team fighting the FUD. I'm ashamed to say I had underestimated your dedication to the cause, sir. It's good to have you back.
The problem as I see it for people who don't drive much is the fuel cost saving does not offset the additional cost to insure an EV. In my case the insurance is over triple of what I currently pay for my ICE car. People who regularly drive long distances, are faced with charging time problems, and the cost of fast charging on the road is far more than home charging.
You’re not answering and addressing the main issue. EV sales in the US is definitely on the decline or stalling. Why? What is the cause? You say the EV growth is still on the rise, yet you don’t show any data to support your claim, just like the other guy.
@@ap0lmc BC is doing a California and legislating ICE cars off the roads by 2030, that is the only reason why people are buying them, they are being FORCED to do so.
I drove from Long Island to Disney World in my Tesla model Y long range overnight starting at 8:30 PM and arriving at 4:30 PM. I think the total mileage was 1165. It took approximately 20 hours and I started at a 100% state of charge and my first stop was in Maryland. By the way, the way the Tesla charging curve works is you could get 150 miles in approximately 15 minutes from a low state of charge. I had to go to the bathroom. I bought some food to eat. I typically made it all the way to almost 90% or more. I made a total of seven stops. To be honest, a couple of those stops were forced at chargers because I needed to go to the bathroom.
That is not really true, but still, cobalt is mostly mined as a byproduct of Nickel or Copper mining. So if anyone uses copper or nickel, he is not 'better person" for not driving EV.
I feel like Cash Jordan has been studying with Scottie Kilmer. His style is exactly the same. I thought Cash Jordan was a real estate youtuber. What happened?
The last time I used a supercharger I was there for 2 minutes before my car notified me that I had enough charge to get home. It was easy - I parked, got out, grabbed the charger and plugged it in.
Don't let the politics of the CEO keep you from buying a superior product. Most hamburger chains are owned by right-wing nut jobs. Same goes for the two biggest home improvement stores and Walmart too. IF I HAVE A CHOICE I will avoid some fascist outfit like Hobby Lobby because a Michaels is nearby. I keep voting my Tesla shares to fire or restrict Musk but I'm not going to cut off my nose just because he chooses to be a dick.
Teslas do no depreciate anywhere near 50% in a year and they're about to appreciate 200% when they can be used as robotaxis. And if you're that worried about depreciation and don't believe robotaxi is happening (despite all the video evidence), just lease. Teslas are the best value on the market.
@@catbert7 I'm more informed than that to be lured in a scam like robotaxis. This scam has been running since 2018 and will run for another 10 years. No thank you, i don't like to have foreign objects prodded through my anus.
9:54 - I just looked up New Yorks grid mix and the average CO2 per kWh according to electricity maps was 281g. A good EV getting 4mi/kWh means an of average 70g/mi. Find any ICE that can get down to that, let alone something the size of a Model 3/Y.
I feel like the biggest reason that dealers can't move EVs is because they are price way too high out the gate, The majority of them are built for luxury customers which makes up the minority of car buyers, and many of us are worried about reliability and maintenance, especially since one of the most important parts of the car is the most expensive to get fixed... And you really can't DIY... At least not yet
I am both a political conservative and a massive EV fan. I own 2 ICE vehicles and 2 EVs. I purchased a 2017 Volt (EREV) 8 years ago and it is still my favorite vehicle of all time. I recently purchased a full EV (Cadillac Lyriq), so I have experience with all of these different drive trains. The only complaint I have with my EV is that I don’t have as many fast chargers available as gas stations. Tesla chargers just became available for my GM vehicle, so I am expecting long road trips to become a bit easier. If you have no patience for finding fast chargers on long road trips don’t take an EV on a long road trip. You cannot beat an EV for city driving within a 100 mile radius of your home though. I am expecting improved infrastructure for EV charging to become much better in the next decade. Plugin hybrids are a perfect choice for someone who has no patience for the charging headaches of a road trip.
I live in Brazil and we have an EV to be used in the city. We charge the battery once a week spending less than USD 10.00. Before we spent USD 35.00 a week with gasoline. A USD 100.00 saving in a month. We expect stay with this car for 10-years, around USD 12,000 saving. In 2018 we had a national truck drivers strike stopping all main roads and in just 5 days no gas station had fuel to fill up the ICE cars, we decided have one EV and one ICE car used for long haul travels, in a future change both for one hybrid plug-in car to have the best of each fuel
I'm in South West London, our council is installing streetlight chargers in roads where residents are requesting it. But we also have EV charging in one of our supermarket car parks, and I think for most people who don't have off street parking this is the future. Plug in during your weekly shop or during your toilet/coffee break on long journeys.
I would like to add that power plants are much more efficient at producing energy than combustion vehicles, even if the power plant is coal-fired. Driving 800 miles for 13 hours at a speed of 60 miles per hour is exhausting unless you are a trucker. Driving 240 miles for 4 hours at a speed of 60 miles per hour is sufficient for the average driver and allows enough time for charging an EV and relaxing for 30 minutes to an hour.
I am waiting on EVs for two reasons, range and lower insurance. I need a range of 500 miles so I can charge from 0%-50% quickly and then drive 250 miles. This also would mean that when towing a trailer I could go 250 miles on a full charge. I really couldn’t pay more than $60k for any vehicle, but optimally I would like to get it for $35k or so. I think we need two evolutions in battery tech and they will be awesome. It would be great to drop the weight considerably and not increase the space required.
@@EvanKnightIsGood If they catch on fire good luck putting the fire out. ICE fires can be quickly and easily put out. lithium batteries can burn for days or weeks even after being put out they can reignite!
@@horseathalt7308not true. Gas cars burn till there’s nothing but a charred skeleton of a car. They aren’t quickly put out. All that rubber, plastic, oil, and 15 gallons of gas and you think they’re put out “easily”? Faster than an EV yeah but quickly? Hardly. And also burn sooo much more often than EVs
Part of the problem with chargers, they are different than gas. In a gas car we are always used to it being natural to fill the tank, but EVs charge on a geometric curve so the first part of the charge is very fast and then it slows more and more as it approaches 100%. That is why he does trips on half charges.
ICE sales have always been good at our shop. We sell EVs also, but Recently we have noticed huge fall off in people looking at them . Sales as definitely down , by alot. No interest
@@eman67rp nah, it's not misleading. His shop attracts a certain kind of people and he doesn't have the right EV to show for them. It's misleading to say it is worldwide statistics because in my shop...
@@eman67rp EVs are like early times of the Apple Macbook, only 10% of the public would buy them & then flat-lined. No need to suggest the man is a liar.
@@navsofour2892 And the reason the Macbook did not replace the PC was it's cost (they never became relatively cheap), and the "walled garden" approach of Apple. Tesla is certainly TRYING the "walled garden" approach, but it was cheap PCs that drove the adoption of computers by everyone. I built my first PC from boards and a generic case for about $2000 in 1982, that's $6500 today. For reference the PC/AT was $6000 USD in 1984. The one my employer bought for me as a developer? With all the options - max memory, EGA color monitor, PC LAN card, Irma card, modem ... - it was $13,000. I don't think he implied OP is lying - I can't imagine buying a FORD EV at current pricing. The only viable choice in North America is (unfortunately) Tesla.
I’ve thought about getting an EV but I do have some concerns. One of my biggest ones is winter, I live in a place with very cold, snowy, long winters and I worry about how well they work in the cold. I also do make a road trip once every few months over 500 miles, mostly through rural areas and I have no idea where charging stations are. But if I found one I don’t like the idea of adding another 30+ minutes to my trip. Probably more than that because I’d probably have to go way off route to find a charging station. Another concern is EVs are still so new, if I buy one today I’m afraid in 5 years there will be big advancements and mine will be outdated and the value will plummet
Just took delivery on a 2024 Tesla Model 3 a month ago. Had a wall charger installed in our garage. Took the first "road trip" shortly thereafter. Charged up to 85% to start. Drove from Columbia, MD to Bethlehem, PA. Had 102 miles left in the "tank". Drove around locally for a couple of days. Before starting back plugged in at the Supercharger at a nearby Sheetz. Went next door to get lunch at a Wendy's. We had just finished eating when my phone informed me that charging was done. Had charged to 80%. Drove from Bethlehem to Harrisburg to visit my cousin. On leaving Harrisburg for home "topped off" for 10 minutes at a local Supercharger station. Smooth! Happy camper! 😊 That guy is clueless! 😅
A heat pump is an air conditioner running in reverse. It's like taking the window air conditioner in your home and turning it around so that the hot air coming out the back is now pumped into the house. When the outside air temp gets much below 35 degrees, however, heat pumps pretty much stop working. When that happens, a resistive heating element in the unit is turned on to generate heat. No matter how you look at it, a lot of energy is used to heat and cool batteries. This is totally wasted energy that few people talk about.
🤣👍 Before discussing (or stating something) every ICE cars fan should have some training on ecology and the latest studies and statistics! My MY and the petrol car stand side by side, MY covers 3 times longer distancies per year than the petrol car (7 years old). BTW - I am from Germany
Just bought my first EV Wednesday. I’ll be replacing the rest of my cars with EV’s as needed. Can’t see ever buying and ICE car again personally. I don’t think they should be banned or anything but we need both.
It's mostly a case of many folks just don't understand how they work. Or they hear talking heads telling them EV's are bad!" and assume that if it won't work for them, it therefore wouldn't work for anyone else.
Cause one they don't have enough range to go on a trip, two they take 4 to 5 hours just to charge the stupid things, and three they lack soul and character as well.
@@RAYDEEY17 Correct and not to mention that EVs are wayyyyyyy too quiet and wayyyyyyy too boring as well. Don't believe me then go watch Scotty Kilmer and he'll tell you the real truth about EVs ingeneral.
Just remember to look at the dryer plug receptacle to see if it's rated for continuous use. A dryer is made to operate for about an hour and turn off whereas the cars stays charging for several hours. The cheaper Chinese style receptacles were melting and a fire hazard.
RUclips seems to be deleting my links but, the main thing I’m trying to say is, my friend on Facebook was using the various news stories about Tesla Model 3s catching fire, requiring 6,000 to 8,000 gallons of water to extinguish, because it was their large battery pack that was on fire. My friend was using these stories to validate his anti-EV/pro-piston engine worldview.
Just a quick question. Does Cash Jordan want to inform us how much it costs to change the oil on a Bentley? Oh, don't worry, it comes with a free replacement of windshield wiper. Here's a quote "Oil changes for Bentleys cost an estimated $500, with other required services which can range from $1,400 - $2,700 per year. We recommend an oil change every 6,000 miles, or 12 months - whichever comes first."
FYI, Cobalt is needed to refine gasoline and they can't remove it from the equation, like we can by going to different battery formulas.
Didn’t know that. Good info to combat all the misinformation I hear on a daily basis about my car.
@@ReneGordon Ask not what you can do for your country.
Ask what your country can do for your country's oil companies!
@@bobsinhav We will always need oil but we should NOT be wasting it on transportation when there is a more viable option. Oil will not last forever or are you the kind of person who doesn’t want to be inconvenienced in your lifetime?
Batteries bad. Batteries expensive. Batteries toxic. All these arguments will go away. Batteries are getting cheaper and more efficient and new battery materials are less and less toxic. Less scarce materials
"It takes about 1 pound of cobalt to remove the sulfur from 80,000 gallons of petroleum products, like gasoline. "
I live in a small town in rural northeast Colorado. My wife and I decided to enter our 2024 Hyundai Kona Electrics in the annual car show this last weekend. I was surprised at all the positive responses we got. Most people assumed that the cars were way more expensive than they were, largely based on misinformation. When we told them the price and the cost to charge, they were impressed. We charge almost exclusively at home, so our $120+ monthly gas bill has turned to maybe $20 to charge. We've gone on one road trip so far. It was a 900-mile round trip to South Dakota. Even with the horrible charging infrastructure there, we were never at risk of running out of power. The money we've saved in gas has already paid for our level 2 charging setup.
Did the infotainment help you achieve a 900 mile roadtrip?
@ I planned the trip before we left. There weren’t a lot of places to charge along the way, so I wanted to make sure we didn’t get stranded on our first road trip.
@@mkgearhead5151 7 years ago I was a little worried the first trip too. After that never gave it a thought. Charge at home 90% of the time. $0.08 a kwh Cheers.
If apter and lucid were to collaborate on tech together in order to make a cheaper open sourced electric car based off of Lucide Pure GT model that would be my ideal electric car if these companies are serious about wanting to convince me to buy one
From Norway here and I own two EV's.
Temperature is getting down to -25 Celsius here during winter and I have no problems with my EV's during that time.
Summer range is +400km.
Winter range is around +300km.
Same here. Summer range on my car is 450-480 km. Winter range in proper cold sinks to about 350-360 km. Which is still fine for my needs. Even during winter, I have to stop to take a break before the car needs to charge.
Do you have NMC or LFP batteries ?
According to the experts, you've been dead for years, killed by your EVS
@@pauld3327 one of them has a LFP from CATL and the other one has a lithium-ion also made by CATL.
I lose about 10 to 15% here in the UK. It doesn't get below freezing that often and I have a heat pump.
During short trips ICE car fuel consumption is down by 33%% in cold weather
6:34: I've road-tripped in our EVs multiple times. It's pretty comfortable and enjoyable. We leave with a full battery and take bathroom breaks while charging. More often than not, our car charges faster than we can go to the bathroom, pick up some food, and get back to the car.
If you aren't in a rush. This tech can't replace diesel trucks that have to go from northern Maine to southern California
The best diesel trucks can go 2k miles without stopping to fuel up
@@maherjoey At least in Europe, truckers have to take mandatory breaks long before their truck runs out of diesel. Charging during the breaks is a no-brainer. Do we really want truckers to drive for hours on end without any rest? Where I live, that's downright illegal. And the first charging sites created specifically for trucks are starting to show up. Electric trucks are already a thing here, and their development has only started.
@@maherjoeyUS Federal regulations limit the duration of how many hours a truck driver can operate his rig. 2K miles without stopping isn’t legal. I suggest looking up the pros and cons of electrified trucks and you’ll see that electrification drastically improves driver comfort, safety and uphill power. Further, periodic charging coincide with mandated driving breaks. The cost of fuel savings are significant enough, in themselves, to transform trucking.
I often tell ICE owners, in essence it takes me no time to charge. By the time I go into Walmart to buy extra supplies for the trip and go to the bathroom, my charging is done.
@@maherjoey my 1997 Toyota Tacoma can’t do that either, so I guess ice vehicles don’t work?🤷🏻♂️
Thank YOU, BEN
For fighting FUD
Did an experiment last month: I drive about 550 miles south every 2 months in my model 3. My 6sp ICE car used to take me 9 hrs. Last trip I treated each charge stop as a gas stop: Timed it prior to aprox 12-15 min. Plug in, walk in and pee, get coffee and snack, back to car then stretch for 3 min to simulate filling my tank. Then unplug and drive off. Made it in 9 hrs! EXACTLY the same. Now, anything over say, 600 miles, then I'd have to spend a longer charge stop to build up enough range buffer since I"m not topping off each time. I have a 200 mph bladder. So if you have a 400 mile bladder, then more power to you. But I have to pull over and stretch every 2-3 hours. In summary: again... all this is BS. Just don't buy an EV if you don't want one. ... ugh...
You pointed out an important thing . . . you plugged in and went to pee. With an ICE car, you must stay with the pump until finished fueling and only then go into the station and pee. So plug in and pee does not take that much longer than pump and pee so long as you are only putting in enough electricity to take you to your next pee break. However, as you also pointed out, with an ICE car several of your stops would be for a pee break only. That said, with either an ICE car or an EV most of the time lost in this scenario is in getting off the highway, parking, and going into the station to pee.
Most stress/tiring that happens in travel is due to the noise. You feel much less stressed/tired if the mode you traveled were less noisy. You arrive less tired/stressed in EV. The second bit is about how assisted was the drive. Tesla reduce that aspect of stress too to a huge extend if you use Tesla to its best capabilities.
What if there is no open charger????
@@justbecause9645
You can look up if a charger is in use or not on the route you're taking, at least on Tesla's you can.
200 mph bladder - that is a fats stream 😂
The anti-EV videos spreading misinformation are getting clicks at the moment, some youtubers will do whatever gets clicks. It'll all die off soon enough, facts always win the day.
Great video Ben. Glad you are taking it on, on behalf of all the people who deserve to breathe clean air. Keep up the good work
The problem is you are brainwashed by Ben and his views that are paid for by Tesla and other paid propagandist. The main stream media is left by far. They are the ones reporting these things also. Ben is twisting the facts just as bad. Look up resale on EVs. It is dropping, because the fan boys who bought up Tesla's abd such all own them already. New sales have slowed. It's not a lie. Yes sales across the board have, but ev's in particular. The data is there. Look it up and read the whole thing. Not the headline. The fact is. Appts are the push. They have a handful of chargers for hundreds of units. Good luck. You prob face these issues a d just overlook it as well I'm doing gods work and saving the environment. No you aren't. Until the infrastructure is set up the push for evs is not saving anything. Look at California saying please don't charge your evs during the day just a couple years ago. The infrastructure is not there and so t be for a time still. I'm in the power industry. I see it first hand.
It's good for people who don't differentiate between ICE cars and EVs. When the EV prices really drop, we can get EVs at reasonable prices.
No one is buying them because the battery replacement cost 75%of the car?
@@maddominican879 The opposite is true. People are buying EVs because they are so reliable. In the rare event that a cell fails in the battery pack, just that one cell would need to be replaced, not the whole battery.
@@maddominican879 Yup. "No one" = best selling car of any kind on the planet (Tesla Model Y).
The fact that the cammer is quoting the Daily Mail which is only good for lining your bird cage is telling.
Not true, it is good for take-out fish and chips.
Big shame that its a bit scratchy.
EV battery manufacturers are working hard to reduce the rare earth minerals in the batteries. BUT they will always need to use cobalt to refine petrol and diesel.
Cobalt is used as a catalyst in refining operations. It helps remove sulfur (and maybe other impurities) from the hydrocarbon stream. In theory no cobalt is consumed in the reaction, but in practice some will be lost to erosion and flaws in the recycling process.
It takes about 1 pound of cobalt to remove the sulfur from 80,000 gallons of petroleum products, like gasoline. 80,000 gallons would power a car for about 2.4 million miles, but 98.8% of that cobalt is recoverable, meaning we permanently lose only a pound of cobalt for every 6.6 million gallons we refine.
I always prefer ev for my road trips. This guy and so many others have no clue what they are talking about. Usually im with a girlfriend and with their bathroom stop frequncy, my battery is always charged on road trips 😂
I Have a Nissan Leaf in Norway its only 30KWH, but we live in the city of Bergen. With the insentives and cheap power we only drive like 20-30 miles each day And have a charger in the garage. We dont ever think about distance at all. From the old gasolin car we had. We saved like 70% total on the whole each month! On Long trips we just rent a car. Usually 1 to 2 times a year.😂😂 BTW Will I love your channel ❤
Yup. Anytime I'm road-tripping it's with passengers and people always want a bathroom break every couple hours (usually my girlfriend, who chugs drinks in the car). The break takes about 10 minutes, which is enough to recover the charge we spent in the last 2 hours, so we can go forever at exactly the same rate we would in a gas car. The only difference is less noise, better tech, no fumes, and way cheaper.
@@catbert7 Is it actually cheaper if charging on the go? Home charging is cheap, but here in Europe fast charging generally costs about the same as petrol/diesel now. Is public charging cheaper in the states (I know fuel is)?
@@xxwookey Yeah same in the US. You have to look into the specific charger and see if it offers off-peak charging, which some do offer here.
@@xxwookey I have travelled through germany and neighbour countries in a tesla, used fast chargers. Spent twice less than an economic diesel would cost.
When charging at home, from own solar roof, it's virtually free.
One thing missed at 11:30 about emissions just being shifted to dirty emissions outside of the city is forgetting that once we're on electric, we have the opportunity to use clean energy options. Got a charger at home? You can get solar, and drastically cut back emissions for general use, and likely only use dirty energy on road trips when you have to use public chargers.
Even dirty energy is cleaner than cars because they can put bulky heavy expensive emissions equipment on a power plant you can't put on a car
@@rp9674Thanks for mentioning this. This was an important part missing the video.
I agree, any how much of the wired infrastructure comes from wind and hydro, other clean sources. With adoption and scale brings new ideas that combat the "dirty energy". How bout everyone have solar and storage"bi-directional EV" on there property. I digress.
You have no clean energy options. You don't get to segregate which electrons produced in a certain manner. There are not special transmission lines for solar and wind electricity.
@@robertkubrick3738 that's only assuming you're using someone else's solar or wind energy. What is absolutely a possibility is installing your own of both (but likely solar). You can do that and sever your tie to the grid and guarantee clean energy for your personal use.
You can still have a grid tied system to offset the energy you use with clean energy, and if you think that is no different than just using whatever the powerplants use, you're either ignorant or trying to be an argumentative contrarian.
Good thing getting petroleum around the world has never caused any conflict or suffering.
Newsflash: ICE cars are not as efficient in the winter, either. When I had a diesel car, I was getting 60+ mpg in the summer. That figure would plummet to around 45 mpg in winter. I'm never going back to fossil fuel.
For me, absolutely worst is smell ... when it's not windy and air stays low, you can smell it everywhere. Cheaper or not, greener or not, this one is winner for me - no smell.
It is crazy how we got used to smelling carcinogenic stuff and don't care abut it.
And notice when the news cycle was all about EV's freezing in Chicago last winter that not one of them mentioned the number of gas or diesel vehicles that would not start either because their fuel froze or THEIR batteries had died.
In my area, they change the fuel formulation 12 times a year with up to 12% alcohol in the winter. Guess what alcohol does? It burns substantially faster which is how they clean up the exhaust fumes in the cold climate but it also destroys the MPGs. Something the anti EV crowd will never mention. Your 30mpg car will be at best 25mpg in the winter.
I used to watch him when he showed apartments in New York, showing what you get for the price. Recently (2 years?), he has found a new angle on immigration and homelessness in New York to bring in the clicks. He's a total sell-out if you ask me.
@@craigs34 Cash jordan is all about clicks for cash. He posts super click-baity videos about whatever subject he thinks will get him the most clicks and cash.
yeah, it was better when he did real estate vlogs. now hes gone to the dogs. Unsubscribed just now. at last i wont get to see his FUD videos
He did an Elon turn and is working for him but this is short gains because we all know grifting will be the end of your channel
Same. Used to watch him as well. Thankfully you can tell RUclips not to recommend a channel to you anymore.
When I see an EV hit piece like this, I’m reminded that my EV which I charge at home and commute 150 miles a day cost me half as much as as a gas & deisel car and I get to use all the commuter lanes. Oh, and my Insurence is less, my maintenance is less, and my hassles and problems have been gone for years. But,hey, if you want to wallow in fear and misinformation, you be you. I’ll take the $5000 dollars a year bonus. More for me.
Exactly. I had driven my 4Runner for 7 years and 120,000 miles. I had spent $25,000 on gas! I bought a Tesla model 3 Long Range AWD 3 weeks ago and after 1000 miles spent $35 on electricity. After 120,000 I will be saving over $20k compared to my 4Runner!
My electricity bill is 1/5 my old gas bill
the savings are real sitting at 171000 in mine
And how long do you think that battery will last? My 2006 lexus just hit 200k miles and the engine is still in amazing condition.i gotta wait to see how reliable it would be in 10-20 years.
@@michalstelmach4203that battery aint gonna last 120k miles lmao
My greatest fear is that RUclips and social media in general will continue to trend towards the most provocative and outrageous content because it just seems to work in attracting viewers into a certain tribal bubble. A well reasoned and honest fact based attempt to present a position that isn’t overly biased takes time and effort and I thank you for doing just that. Best wishes!
I think it's a fact. If you consume extremists stuff Google RUclips ect pp will lead you to more.
For my budget there aren't used EVs with sufficient range I want. (About 65-70% of my gasoline car) People always argue that I don't need that much. Okay for a massive discount I would choose less. That's true.😅
the anti-EV thing is at a peak right now. I am like, its a car. You buy it, you don't but it. There are all kinds of options out there. EVs will co-exist with gas cars for many years to come. So, what is the big deal here? Most EVs don't even advertise (Tesla, Rivian, Lucid) except for the legacy brands. Legacy automakers are scaling back their EV plans, because they failed so miserably at it. They gave Tesla a free run for almost a decade and when Lucid/Rivian emerged, being successful (read not profitable yet), and the legacy car makers realized their roadmap just didn't cut it. The way they are scaling back is to save the corporate HS because of leadership failure. They are saving their bonuses by spinning this story on the market. The truth is, EVs and gas cars will co-exist for a very long time from now on. It will be a matter of choice for many. The phasing out won't happen no matter how hard states try. Sales have started to flatten a bit because everyone who wanted to buy an EV already bought one.
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Not true. As ev become cheaper a new marked opens. Very soon BYD will purchase the Chrysler, Dodge, and Jeep brands to mak4e ev on the US avoiding the tarifts. BYD will sell ev at around $25 K and they are superior to any ICE. The legacy auto industry in the US will go BOOM very shortly. The more the middle class income family is being crushed the more it need an ev in their homes. Used ev are now a bargain. They have 2 to 3 years old and the batteries last 20 years.
@@EnriqueAThieleSolivan Maybe, maybe not. An American legacy brand being owned by a Chinese EV brand - not really sure how that will be perceived here (another blame on Biden as well lol).
Charging infrastructure is the biggest problem. Especially in cities. In Europe, they have chargers basically everywhere, not just charging stations. The US is a long way from it and given the negativity towards EV, governments will hesitate to implement them quickly.
BS! Legacy makers know they can't make money producing both so they are glad they aren't selling well.
@@EnriqueAThieleSolivanI doubt it mate
@@artistsinmotion3118 The problem is that biased Western media picks and chooses what to tell us about EVs vs. ICE vehicles, because they have their elite green* agenda to push.
* EVs aren't so "green" after all.
I’m reminded of the phrase…”telling a truth in order to support a lie”. This is a common tactic in political arguments and hard to refute unless one knows the overall industry and as you have done, point out how a specific fact has been cherry picked, or in many cases these days, the fact being presented is now significantly outdated. Thanks for these videos as I am constantly coming across these misconceptions in conversations with ICE owners.
I heard there's a book about lying with facts, I don't do books...reading
@@rp9674 How to Lie with Statistics should be available to every student in the country. It actually shows how statistics are misused, whether maliciously or ignorantly. For instance "No other tooth paste cleans your teeth better than X" does not mean that X is better than all of the other prooducts;; they may be all the same and it could equally be phrased No other toothpaste cleans your teeth as poorly as X" It was written, I believe, in the 50s and needs some updating, since a lot of the examples need historical footnotes.
It’s the oil pocket senator talking about EV sales being down and being disappointed when the secretary of transportation points out that down quarter over quarter is meaningless because auto sales are seasonal, and the reality is that they EV sales haven’t stopped going up year over year, *even in the US*
Even in an auto market downturn
Just bought a ‘22 Chevy Bolt and our insurance dropped $20 a month.
What we’re driving before? That has a very big impact on your insurance costs.
This is good, but a similar cost Tesla may cost more. Chevy doesn’t have a locked out system with few independent shops and you do have to name what you drove before hand . Also changing insurers can also decrease costs
Went from a 2016 Ford Expedition to a 2021 Ford Mach-E and my insurance dropped $40/month. Same provider, same coverage.
Went from a ‘17 ford fusion hybrid to a ‘22 Chevy bolt euv, nothing changed in my insurance but the car. $20 cheaper a month
@@jokulhaups309 Yup - we also bought a top spec Bolt after the quote for a similarly priced entry level Tesla model 3 with a similar range was going to cost us almost three times as much for insurance!
I love the "If" cases. I own 2 EVs. Coworker asked me "What if I have to go to Montana when it is -30F? What are you going to do? I am 49 years old, lived in PA and VA my whole life. I've never been to Montana and don't have a need. But sure "WHAT IF!!!".
Great answer! Another one might be, “I would drive there…and maybe charge a little more often.”🤷🏻♂️. I drove from Seattle to Dallas for the eclipse last spring straight through no hotel stops. Great trip no prob!
Anytime you have to go to Montana you should probably be evaluating your life choices
They have Tesla's in Canada
@@fin3125 I am not following your comment. I was not saying EVs do not work in Cold. Just telling a story about a FUD statement.
I live in Regina Saskatchewan Canada, that's in the prairies, I've owned a model YLR since 2022 and I drive 62km per day to work (164km round trip), even when it's -40c with absolutely no issues, yes the range goes down about 30% at those Temps but it's still enough range to and from work. I plug into a 120v which keeps the battery warm then drive home 10hrs later. I use 55 to 60% of my battery, depends on the wind to travel to and from work, at a 80% charge limit. At the most we get maybe 2 weeks of constant-40c temp for the winter season which is long.
Yeah he definitely doesn't know what he is talking about. An EVSE will never deliver more power than the car handle because that is controlled by the car. I charge my Bolt EUV on 150kw and 350kw EA chargers and they never exceed the 55kw my Bolt can handle. I love the FUD busting. Keep it up.
Well, it might - just in the same way a gas pump will spill everywhere and catch on fire (I dare you to search gas station fails on RUclips!)
@@CrissaKentavr Gas pumps are nothing like EV chargers. This does not happen, ever.
@@Ryan-ff2db 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@capnkirk5528 What's funny? Did you overflow your electrons?
@@Ryan-ff2dbfires at gas stations happen.
Fires in gas cars are far more frequent than fires in EVs per mile driven.
Been spoon fed misinfo
Another interesting fact is that oil refineries use Cobalt to de-sulfinate petroleum. New batteries will not use Cobalt. Sulfur is a corrosive chemical element that will ruin an ICE engine if not removed.
Tesla batteries already are made without cobalt. It’s funny when people bring up child labor mining of cobalt as a reason not to buy a Tesla when that’s never been a thing.
@@driftlessheights6177 LFP batteries do not contain cobalt.
The bottom line is this; there are new battery technologies that are emerging that are safer, more environmentally friendly, cheaper, charge faster, and have significantly longer ranges.
People will buy EVs because they offer a lifestyle improvement.
... and China will be making all the money in the EV market because US politicians who are unable to foresee the future and unable to learn from the past will drag their feet trying to protect big oil.
China also has a much better energy grid...
They have > 1MV high voltage DC cables going from west where it is produced to east, where it is used.
I think they are probably already #1 on the world on green energy production.
In the EU we only have one super high voltage DC cable. I think from Morocco going to the UK.
In the USA the high voltage is not as high and it is all AC. AC coupling of energy production is a lot harder than DC coupling of energy production.
But then again, for super high voltage DC you also need a lot of electronics and AC couplings is very old technology.
Cobalt is also used by OIL REFINERIES!
Yes, so what, EVs use high amounts of lithium and other rare metals and they come from countries whereSl@veLabor is used. lol
@@horseathalt7308 There was a recent story about the discovery of a lithium deposit in the US which is said to have enough to satisfy the total world demand for the next 125 years. Well before then we should have mandatory recycling of Lithium batteries as well as solar panels and any rare earth elements in the magnets.
@@jameshorn270 recycling of lithium and other similar metals in batteries is a very toxic and dangerous job, on a large scale it will be even more dangerous. Not practical at all in the long run.
@@horseathalt7308 BS. If nothing else, robotics may well take over the most hazardous handling issues, and fire is the main issue. Just make sure your recycling centers are isolated. Manufacturing fertilizer is also dangerous (See West, Texas disaster) yet there are plants all over the country.
@@jameshorn270 They have been manufacturing fertilizer for a looong time and the process is very simple too. Totally different thing than heavy metal recycling.
So many lies. Electric car sales are growing every year. I own a Tesla Y. Phenomenal car. Number one selling car in the US and Europe.
Half of all cars sold in China are electric.
Exactly
And IN THE WORLD last year.
How long will it last though? Also how much money do you make and what job do you have to afford that EV?
Well, even if Americans are refusing to buy EVs, (they're not), so what? Americans are 4.2% of the world's population so who cares? The rest of us will carry on buying EVs regardless.
A friend started talking trash about EVs and the first thing he said was about the wear on brake pads. I stopped him immediately and schooled him on one pedal driving. I admitted that older and perhaps cheaper new models didn't have one pedal features. I had to explain how they work and that brake pads will last a very long time on that this kind of system.
The gas guy failed to mention that in cities especially, the poison emitted by ICE vehicles are a major cause of breathing problems of children. Children are much closer to the tail pipes.
The point about the EV industry's awareness of the battery ingredients is on point. They ARE racing to develop safer, lighter, and less expensive products. The petroleum industry can't say the same. That's why they feel tearing down the upstart kid on the block is their best way to survive.
Wear on brake pads? I heard that there's also excessive wear on their engines because you never have to change oil. Must be lots of oil sludge in there.
The original brake pad on my Nissan leaf has last for 11 years and still going
@@chenyansong I'm looking forward to procuring a '22 Bolt EUV soon. 🫰🏻 Can't wait to make my Mom jealous of the lack of brake pad use when I engage in regen braking so much of the time.
Who drives 800 miles in a day, or even 400? Most people are driving 30 miles a day. Even my 2016 fiat 500e which is very very slow charging, will charge 40 miles in an hour, which is just about perfect for shopping at the grocery store or ikea, and that is more than enough to get me home where I have a charger.
I’ve seen some of cash Jordan’s videos on other topics and he sure does love to gaslight viewers. You can really spot the lack of research on his videos
It feels like someone is paying him to regurgitate right wing crap.
@@edc1569 It sells itself.
Laughed when he started off showing a "Daily Mail" article as "evidence". Says it all
Big oil propaganda trying to hurt EV image.
BS
big oil is literally pushing EV's you all are blind
The 'Big Oil' rant is also another cheap FUD vilification moniker IMO. I think the most likely segment with a serious anti-EV stance will be traditional ICE dealer service arms and old-school mechanics who see the end of their highly profitable practice of maintaining complex combustion engines and drive trains! Most old school oil companies pivoted more than a decade ago into energy companies. Most now have significant investments into solar, wind, wave, hydro, hydrogen, biomass and geothermal energy. Many are now making a lot of money supplying electrical grids. Take a look at today's forecourts - the gas pumps are still there but you will also often find groups of EV chargers too.
FUD
I got rid of my model S 2 weeks ago. But im keeping my jaguar XJl. Love the 3 minutes of fueling for a range of 570 miles which supersedes any EV in America. Come in more than handy when making the 831 mile trip from Lancaster Pennsylvania to Jacksonville Florida. It doesn't matter how many times i stop for what ever reason, i only have to stop once to fuel, up and out in 3 minutes. This is one out of many long distance traveling i do every year. Sorry but Keep the EV till they are greatly improved....
I think a bigger reason that used EV's prices have fallen is that NEW EV prices are falling to more reasonable levels. E.g., Model 3's are now in Camry/Accord territory, so used ones are dropping to more reasonable levels as the "first adopter" premium is worked out.
Thanks!
Thank you! 🙏
I'm from Germany and I love driving Tesla E cars. I'm a car mechanic and painter master, so I'm certainly qualified enough to say that E cars are the future. But unfortunately we also have a lot of populists in Germany who keep speaking out against them in order to prevent the future. And they do this purely for their own benefit and to make the oil industry even richer and to continue to pollute the world.
Waste is very profitable. The more things are streamlined and simplified, the less jobs there are to support that industry and that’s been the fear ever since the Industrial Revolution.
If you don't like populists arguments maybe you should not make mandates about what to choose. Let the public decide what's best for them.
But how many EVs (Teslas or otherwise) do you actually OWN?
Same here. After working on gas cars the last 20 years it's time for something better,more efficient
A u qualified enough just because u driving Tesla? I u really German?)
1) I drive an Ioniq 6 and when it was 4 degrees F outside I only lost 1extra percent on my whole days useage.
2) charging is only an issue on long trips. Yes, the infrastructure has a way to go, but it’s getting better. I’ve had the car for 9 months and only charged away from home maybe 12 times, and only once did it feel like it was burning time I didn’t want to spare.
3) the carbon output argument is played out.
4) do you own stainless steel pots and pans or a cell phone? Those also require cobalt.
5) Ioniq 6 has normal sized wiper blades. I can go to any auto parts store and replace them myself.
6) my insurance went up just about $100 per year going from a $20k Mazda to a $50k Ioniq 6.
7) granted, where I live broken chargers can be a bit of an issue. I often find one broken out of a set of 4 chargers and it’s almost always been physically abused. So an anti EV sentiment causes people to break chargers, which they then use as an excuse against chargers,… anyone else see the circular fallacy there?
Cash is right, he is talking about here in New York. The only people I know that is buying an EV is my sister whose job let her charge the Tesla for free. For the rest of us, there is no at-home charging and almost no destination charger. NYTimes ran an article on 2023.03.05 showing the 5 boroughs have far less EV adaption rate than Jersey, Connecticut, and Long Island because of this issue. And no, light pole chargers are not the solution. It's New York; those chargers will be vandalized in weeks
Downplay a legitimate barrier to EV adaption is not exactly a good way to promote EV and disparaging people that raise the issue is "frankly low".
With NY public transportation infrastructure, owning a car - any car is an expensive hassle.
The number of EV’s on the road in NYC doesn’t care that it’s really hard to own one in the 5. It’s every 4-5 car in Manhattan. Mainly because of black Uber model y’s.
In NYC a lot of us live in buildings, where do we charge our car? It’s a hassle. If charging was more accessible in the 5 boroughs. Sales would be higher of ev.
When I lived in London for 3 decades, I never owned a car. Not worth it.
Just FUD
Here in our country, PHEV BYD Sea Lion 6 DM-i just released few weeks ago and now in a mass queue reservation with almost 600 units.
EV and PHEV are skyrocketing in sales actually
I couldn't care less about the environment. What I care most about is saving money and hate spending it on gas. And EVs help me save A LOT of money.
Yeah right, you spend $40K to $100K to save an average of $1,200 a year, when a pre owned Corolla can cost the average guy $5K to $12K. If you total the savings/costs, that means an EV guy will have spent $30K more in one year than the gas car, and the EV guy will have to drive around for the next 25 years to equal the savings from the gas cars. Now if you add EV pricing of those over $80K to $200K, you would need from 70 years to 180 years to equal the savings of a gas powered old pre owned Corolla. Yeah I call bullshit on that "saving money on gas" quote. I've never met ONE single person struggling with money driving around in EVs, all the EV owners I've met have lots of money to throw away. Why is it that all the illegal immigrants that migrate to the U.S. looking for work immediately buy gas powered old pre owned pickup trucks and old beat up Toyota, Honda and Nissan rather than EVs? Remember that next time you vote Blue/Pro illegal immigration to "save the environment"
My state, Illinois, does charge almost twice as much for yearly plates for EV, and when I switched my liability insurance from a Focus to a Bolt my rates did go up a fair margin. That part is a reality thing. Time is money, taking 6 times the time or more to refill range can be a deal breaker for quite a few.
If EVs are so great, why does the government need to ban gasoline cars in 2035 to get people to buy them? The government didn’t have to ban VHS players; as better technologies emerged, people simply stopped buying them without any government coercion. If you want an EV and can afford it you can purchase one. Just don't force me to buy one.
@@EpicDrew15 The Biden administration made emission standards which are impossible to meet with out Electric Cars. That is why the big three are making EVs despite losing huge amounts of money on each one made. They are worried about the future. Progressive state governments have also made outright bans on gasoline cars to kick in in 2035.
" ... why does the government need to ban gasoline cars in 2035 ... ?"
It's the California State government that's doing that, not the Federal government, so if you don't live in California it won't apply to you. Californians want everyone to drive electric cars to cut down on smog. California's geography, with tall mountains on the eastern side, tends to catch and hold air pollution but EVs don't release smog-forming pollutants.
It's more of trying to accelerate the growth because the timeline on climate damage is getting shorter. Also, they are banning new car sales on ICE (you can still drive existing ones and its not a federal mandate. Its most states. Federal did set a goal, but it's just a goal to reach and not a strict line. Like transitions to Real IDs that keep getting pushed back for full adoption, it will likely be the same.
Here in New Zealand we own 2 EVs and love them. We managed to get our latest EV before the new government scrapped the EV subsidy. The new government have also introduced (Road User Charge RUC) a per km tax on EVs at the same cost as that already paid by diesel vehicles under 3.5T which don't pay tax at the pump. The government accidentally voted in a reduction to the RUC for PHEVs by 50%. The RUC has increased the running cost of EVs here by ~200% when charging from home (1,000km : power $27, RUC $78), but it's still cheaper than an equivalent petrol car, but about the same cost as running a hybrid, but more expensive than a PHEV. As a result of these government changes, EV registrations YTD are 70% down on the same period last year and EV dealerships are struggling to sell existing inventories imported before the subsidy was scrapped and have reduced the puchases prices massively. E.g. VW ID4 before the subsidy $79,990 NZD and now $59,990. Pure hybrids sales are slightly up on the same period last year.
Couldn't they take a 10% road charge from the tires instead of adding it to the fuel? Why do they have to check your kms? Also, this measure is meant to punish anybody who buys an EV, you don't need to check on kms of people buying gas cars. That's a clear case of discrimation. I'm sure there's a legal case to be made for this.
@@bytemark6508 Diesel vehicles have paid RUC since 1978 when Road User Charge was introduced. They do not pay duty/tax at the pump. Due to EVs not paying duty/tax, they now pay RUC too. KMs are checked annually at the WoF/MoT. A per km charge for driving a vehicle is the fairest, unfortunately the government haven't implemented it for everyone, so at the moment a few efficient petrol, or hybrid vehicle is cheaper to run than an EV, especially with petrol prices going down at the moment.
They say global peak oil,production is close. So EVs owners are doing ICE lovers a favour by making oil last longer.
I noticed an uptick in new RUclips accounts about 9 months ago that are specifically producing FUD about BEV's, I think we are at the stage of big oil fighting : : “First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.” ............2030 is doomsday for gas/diesel. The nail in the coffin for gas/diesel will be transportation as a service. This year in the largest car market in the world BEV is at 50%. The bad batch of batteries were all from LG Chem, this is has been fixed. As for insurance rates when you insure with Tesla Insurance some rates are 40% less than regular insurance companies (Nerd Wallet), I think must be due largely due to the fact that Tesla can get parts at cost and they can more accurately model the risk due to having ALL the data.
The range and efficiency of a gas car also drops when it's cold. Cobalt is also needed to refine petrol. Modern petrol cars NEW are also expensive. Modern petrol cars also have infotainment systems with bad software.
Modern petrol cars are half way of an EV already in most regards, except for the actual drive train. Yes, they can pull through longer distances, but they eat away on gas in city settings and smaller distance travel because the engine is super inefficient in stop and go and short distances. EVs are superb in those categories, but looking at highway distances suddenly becomes the norm when the average person drives through a city or from one village to another.
No solution is perfect, but somehow people expect EVs to suddenly not only match what they have now with petrol, but for them to also be better in every way. And that simply makes no sense. I shouldn't expect an apprentice to be better than the master when picking applicants. And in the tech world I should never expect one singular technical achievement to outperform an established solution withing a few years if the other tech had decades and in this case even more than a century of innovation and daily use.
All that said, EVs do have issues. Charging is a mess with errors and a clustered system of how and what to pay, new standards come every few years (CCS -> nacs) andthe cars have a lot of bloat in them that makes them expensive or inefficient simply because the car makers want to cater to a certain audience. I'd much prefer 16" wheels over some of the 20" ones for efficiency or the option to not have massage seats but still ventilation if that means I get to safe 2000-3000 in optional extras almost per option. I don't NEED electric trunk openers, indoor RGB-LEDs, high end speaker systems, electric back mirrors, massage seats, an electricly dimmed panoramic roof, a drink heater in my cup holder and much much more. I don't even need most of the driving assistance, though it is nice to have and 360 cams for parking are great. But If cars were more modular, a tad smaller (think VW ID.3) and had longer software support, things would look a lot differently on the car side already.
I’m visiting LA for the month and I charge up at a Flo two blocks away. If I had to fast charge each time it would have made this trip miserable. These street chargers are fantastic.
Cobalt is also used to manufacture unleaded gasoline where it's used once, but the cobalt in a battery is recycled.
Cobalt is used as a CATALYST in the refining process. Catalysts typically don't get consumed by the reactions they catalyze. I looked this up a year or so ago and found that there IS some loss of cobalt, but it's far from "used once" levels.
I switched from a Range Rover to a Tesla. I average 25-30K miles per year. Could a small car that is an ICE car give longer range, sure. But the comfort isn’t there. I know because we still have a Toyota. I felt beat up on my drive from MI to VA. In the Tesla I find stopping ever 180-200 mimes is good for the body as I make rest stops bathroom stops, walk around to stretch my legs and get better blood flow. By time I’m finished charging, I have physically recharged as well. I get in the road again refreshed. But I significantly spend-less on fuel ( fuel is fuel whether electric or petroleum).
Ben , I agree 100% with your piece. This guy is trying to mislead his viewers big time! I own two Teslas and consider it a massive convenience to be able to charge at home every night instead of filling up at a gas station. I’ve also done multiple trips from SJ to LA (350 mi, 1 charging stop) and SJ to Seattle (850 mi, 3 charging stops).
As far nyc Ben doesn’t understand the problem. Plus the the some chargers randomly break down. Two garages in nyc 150kw the ccs is broken for months and the chademo is the only side. Working
What works for a home owner not 90% of the people who live in nyc dont live in a house
@@maddominican879Exactly mate
@@maddominican879yup. That infrastructure will be the main thing that slows the complete takeover of EVs as they become the less expensive option.
But it is true that car ownership in general is often not practical or wise for NYC apartment residents
10:30 and the power plants do not need to move the electric generators, so they're more efficient and are regulated to capture a lot more emissions.
@@Thomas_Acharya Also, burning crude oil and Natural Gas are both cleaner than gasoline
@@snakevenom4954 do you have a source for burning crude oil? I didn't think any plant did it, except oil refineries to get rid of stuff they can't use...
@@Thomas_Acharya As in oil power plants that burn crude oil to produce energy or a source that shows it's cleaner to burn than gasoline?
@@snakevenom4954 the only source I read said burning crude for electricity is very rare (except in OPEC countries)... And is the largest source of VOCs.
I agree with you Ben. I asked the condominium to put a charging station in the condominium garage when I ordered an electric car. The housing cooperative installed a charging station for me and I use it almost exclusively. I charge my EV to 70% for daily use overnight to keep the battery cool and maximize its life.
Seems like a lot of people are too shy to ask, with rental and mortgage rates as they are, I wouldn't be shy
How would that work out for apartment dwellers? One or two charging stations for 20-40 apartments. If half the people have EVs, good luck.
@@morbward8281 , I suppose they add more charging stations as needed. Odds are it's going to take a few years before half of all residents have EVs.
If you have a lighted parking stall, you have power and a place to put the car.
It might not be handed to you on a silver platter, you might have to ask, investigate, figure it out yourself
So, I recently subbed to comment on a video. I am a person reluctant to get a BEV . This video did a great job highlighting the bias of another content creator, as well as regional issues that would affect any car owner. For some context, the main issues I have with BEV's are issues with all new vehicles. The lack of repair information and data mining that are rampant in the industry currently. I'm not a climate denier, nor do I believe that BEV's are dying. I would like to see more retro fitting opportunities because I like my car, and it doesn't need to be scrapped. Tech waste is a thing.
I agree with the data mining, but even ICE cars data mine. It is insane what cars are listening to or giving your position to. And these are ICE cars. Not to mention the phone your carrying. Rather being an EV problem though, its anything with a microchip problem.
Thx for debunking his information. I’ve had my EV for 3 years now and I wish I would have made the switch sooner.
See you when you need a battery replacement. How's tyre changing going BTW?
@@greathey1234What? Tires are no harder to change. A battery can last half a million miles or more.
@@greathey1234most batteries have a 10 year warranty and if you want one ask the maker of said battery.
@@recursiv its not the miles i think people are concerned with but the degredation of the battery over time
sure you could get that about of miles out of it if you did it in a few years.. but what about 10+ years.. how much would the battery degrade in that amount of time.. unless it is assumed that we all swap to newer cars within a few years for new ones
@@donzo4784 Degradation slows down over time. For most cars the capacity will never go below 70%. Combustion cars also lose efficiency over time as the engine wears.
As a previous EV owner, here are the cons:
1) Few public DC fast charging stations in my area of Central California.
2) DC fast chargers often broken upon arriving. Sometimes only one charger is working and there is a long line for it.
3) There are more DC fast charging stations in LA/socal area, but they are often full and there are lines for people waiting to charge.
4) DC Fast chargers regularly charge much slower than the advertised speed. I had to spend 30 minutes to 1 hour at every DC fast charger for my Ioniq 5.
5) L2 charging at home is very expensive and pushes you into a higher kwh rate at home. Residential electricity rates in California and public charging kwh rates in California are sometimes so high that charging the EV costs more than driving a gas car the same distance.
6) The batteries seem to get very hot. The fans often run when the vehicle is charging.
7) Warned that charging to 100% will damage the batteries over time and that I should only charge to 80% on a regular basis. This causes a very decreased range.
8) Most people charge at night, but solar is only generating during the day. The new California net metering agreement causes the solar to not really help with night EV charging (which is when most people are home and charging)
9) In the event of an emergency where you just got home with a low battery and all of a sudden need to drive 100 miles, you are stuck charging at home for hours. If you are lucky your area might have a DC fast charger that you can drive to and then charge for 1 hour to get it fully charged. But basically, you can't just take off to get somewhere on a moment's notice.
10) It is a safety/security hazard if you have to wait in public chargers for a long time, people can walk up and harass you and it is difficult to leave. In an emergency, you have to get out and walk past someone harassing you in order to unplug the charger. You can't just drive away and rip the cord off, the car won't let you. If a similar situation happened at a gas station, you could just drive off with the hose attached.
11) I would not let me wife drive an EV by herself if I knew she would be stuck at a DC fast charger at night.
12) Public fast charging has no restrooms or convenience options when charging at night and the nearby stores are closed. Gas stations usually have bathrooms and a counter with a person working to keep an eye out and also to sell basic necessities.
13) Tires wear out faster.
14) My Ioniq 5 didn't have a way to watch movies or anything on the screen while you waited for charging. I just watched netflix on my phone during that time.
15) Really bad effect on range when driving up a mountain.
16) No easy way to connect a solar panel to the car to provide a slow charge. Would have to use enough solar panels to power an inverter and a 110v L1 charger. Would be better if I can provide just one or two solar panels to a direct DC connection to charge the battery when the vehicle is sitting in the sun all day and not near a charger.
pros:
1) fast acceleration
2) if you can charge at home, it is convenient to just plug in at the end of the day and then unplug in the morning.
3) it is pretty quiet
4) No exhaust smells
5) Fewer oil changes. EVs still have oil to change in differential, gearbox, and transmission assemblies.
6) They might sound cool.
7) People compliment you and say you have a cool car.
I love the level of detail you are getting into with the debunking vids. It's awesome to have such a knowledgeable EV guy who is also a data guy on our team fighting the FUD. I'm ashamed to say I had underestimated your dedication to the cause, sir. It's good to have you back.
That means so much to me!
The problem as I see it for people who don't drive much is the fuel cost saving does not offset the additional cost to insure an EV. In my case the insurance is over triple of what I currently pay for my ICE car. People who regularly drive long distances, are faced with charging time problems, and the cost of fast charging on the road is far more than home charging.
You’re not answering and addressing the main issue. EV sales in the US is definitely on the decline or stalling. Why? What is the cause? You say the EV growth is still on the rise, yet you don’t show any data to support your claim, just like the other guy.
So many of these EV channels are globalist NW0 plant channels to direct and control the narrative towards whatever TPTB want.
In Vancouver Canada EVs are 20% of the cars on the road possibly because of cheaper hydroelectric power.
@@twu905 oil industry bot
@@ap0lmcnot to many smart people in Vancouver 🙄
@@ap0lmc BC is doing a California and legislating ICE cars off the roads by 2030, that is the only reason why people are buying them, they are being FORCED to do so.
I drove from Long Island to Disney World in my Tesla model Y long range overnight starting at 8:30 PM and arriving at 4:30 PM. I think the total mileage was 1165. It took approximately 20 hours and I started at a 100% state of charge and my first stop was in Maryland. By the way, the way the Tesla charging curve works is you could get 150 miles in approximately 15 minutes from a low state of charge. I had to go to the bathroom. I bought some food to eat. I typically made it all the way to almost 90% or more. I made a total of seven stops. To be honest, a couple of those stops were forced at chargers because I needed to go to the bathroom.
Most of the worlds cobalt is used in oil refineries.
Way more Cobalt is used in high performance ALLOYS. The most famous being 617 inCOnel.
That is not really true, but still, cobalt is mostly mined as a byproduct of Nickel or Copper mining. So if anyone uses copper or nickel, he is not 'better person" for not driving EV.
I feel like Cash Jordan has been studying with Scottie Kilmer. His style is exactly the same.
I thought Cash Jordan was a real estate youtuber. What happened?
Cash is exposing a lot of NY’s problems in a negative, gloomy way. Not at all constructive or helpful, in my opinion. He gets great clicks though.
Ha I was thinking the same thing! He is like a mini Scottie Kilmer …. Who deals a bit of meth on the side 😂
Invasion of the brain Snatchers
Most larger youtubers sold their channels and are now hired talent to push products and narratives.
Cash jordan is all about clicks for cash. He posts super click-baity videos about whatever subject he thinks will get him the most clicks and cash.
The last time I used a supercharger I was there for 2 minutes before my car notified me that I had enough charge to get home. It was easy - I parked, got out, grabbed the charger and plugged it in.
No one wants to buy Tesla. I was looking to buy electric car but not from lunatic Musk!
Don't let the politics of the CEO keep you from buying a superior product. Most hamburger chains are owned by right-wing nut jobs. Same goes for the two biggest home improvement stores and Walmart too. IF I HAVE A CHOICE I will avoid some fascist outfit like Hobby Lobby because a Michaels is nearby. I keep voting my Tesla shares to fire or restrict Musk but I'm not going to cut off my nose just because he chooses to be a dick.
@@EpicDrew15 you should look it up the statistic how many of them get trained for ice car.
@@EpicDrew15 I meant traded in for ice car
Check Hyundai ,ford ,Polestar ,Rivian and lucid then
Why is musk a lunatic, because he speaks his mind, innovates, speaks facts not fiction and wants free speech
EV👎🏽👎🏽👎🏽👎🏽
Yes really. Americans refuse to buy cars with tremendous depreciation.. 50% in one year! There i corrected it for you.
Teslas do no depreciate anywhere near 50% in a year and they're about to appreciate 200% when they can be used as robotaxis.
And if you're that worried about depreciation and don't believe robotaxi is happening (despite all the video evidence), just lease. Teslas are the best value on the market.
@@catbert7 I'm more informed than that to be lured in a scam like robotaxis. This scam has been running since 2018 and will run for another 10 years. No thank you, i don't like to have foreign objects prodded through my anus.
Don't let facts get in the way of a mindless rant
Good job "Ben" very informative
9:54 - I just looked up New Yorks grid mix and the average CO2 per kWh according to electricity maps was 281g. A good EV getting 4mi/kWh means an of average 70g/mi. Find any ICE that can get down to that, let alone something the size of a Model 3/Y.
Cash Jordan is a dope
I feel like the biggest reason that dealers can't move EVs is because they are price way too high out the gate, The majority of them are built for luxury customers which makes up the minority of car buyers, and many of us are worried about reliability and maintenance, especially since one of the most important parts of the car is the most expensive to get fixed... And you really can't DIY... At least not yet
We jumped ship and went back to Gas. We're happy again
@@DrMikel-dp4kb Whatever makes you happy.
Outlier located
And Santa is real
I am both a political conservative and a massive EV fan. I own 2 ICE vehicles and 2 EVs. I purchased a 2017 Volt (EREV) 8 years ago and it is still my favorite vehicle of all time. I recently purchased a full EV (Cadillac Lyriq), so I have experience with all of these different drive trains. The only complaint I have with my EV is that I don’t have as many fast chargers available as gas stations. Tesla chargers just became available for my GM vehicle, so I am expecting long road trips to become a bit easier. If you have no patience for finding fast chargers on long road trips don’t take an EV on a long road trip. You cannot beat an EV for city driving within a 100 mile radius of your home though. I am expecting improved infrastructure for EV charging to become much better in the next decade. Plugin hybrids are a perfect choice for someone who has no patience for the charging headaches of a road trip.
Shifting emissions from tailpipe to the power plant? I charge my EV on my DIY solar power system and drive for free.
How did you get free solar panels?
@@HomesteadEngineering Great for you, but you're arguing an extreme exception. What are the average person options?
I live in Brazil and we have an EV to be used in the city. We charge the battery once a week spending less than USD 10.00. Before we spent USD 35.00 a week with gasoline. A USD 100.00 saving in a month. We expect stay with this car for 10-years, around USD 12,000 saving. In 2018 we had a national truck drivers strike stopping all main roads and in just 5 days no gas station had fuel to fill up the ICE cars, we decided have one EV and one ICE car used for long haul travels, in a future change both for one hybrid plug-in car to have the best of each fuel
He is paid from oil companies
Doubt it, just misinformed and possibly a little angry.
I'm in South West London, our council is installing streetlight chargers in roads where residents are requesting it. But we also have EV charging in one of our supermarket car parks, and I think for most people who don't have off street parking this is the future. Plug in during your weekly shop or during your toilet/coffee break on long journeys.
Bunch of people buying EVs, I just got my Telsa M3P a month ago.
I would like to add that power plants are much more efficient at producing energy than combustion vehicles, even if the power plant is coal-fired.
Driving 800 miles for 13 hours at a speed of 60 miles per hour is exhausting unless you are a trucker. Driving 240 miles for 4 hours at a speed of 60 miles per hour is sufficient for the average driver and allows enough time for charging an EV and relaxing for 30 minutes to an hour.
Thank you for covering this video, i remember watching this and was kinda frustrated.
I am waiting on EVs for two reasons, range and lower insurance. I need a range of 500 miles so I can charge from 0%-50% quickly and then drive 250 miles. This also would mean that when towing a trailer I could go 250 miles on a full charge. I really couldn’t pay more than $60k for any vehicle, but optimally I would like to get it for $35k or so. I think we need two evolutions in battery tech and they will be awesome. It would be great to drop the weight considerably and not increase the space required.
"charge them too fast and they explode" 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I mean technically that is true but there is a whole lot of electronics between your charging cable and the batteries to make sure this never happens.
@@EvanKnightIsGood not LFP
@@EvanKnightIsGood If they catch on fire good luck putting the fire out.
ICE fires can be quickly and easily put out. lithium batteries can burn for days or weeks even after being put out they can reignite!
@@horseathalt7308not true. Gas cars burn till there’s nothing but a charred skeleton of a car. They aren’t quickly put out. All that rubber, plastic, oil, and 15 gallons of gas and you think they’re put out “easily”? Faster than an EV yeah but quickly? Hardly. And also burn sooo much more often than EVs
@@schtinerbock4570i think athalt is just anti progress? Or maybe opposed to good vehicle acceleration
Part of the problem with chargers, they are different than gas. In a gas car we are always used to it being natural to fill the tank, but EVs charge on a geometric curve so the first part of the charge is very fast and then it slows more and more as it approaches 100%. That is why he does trips on half charges.
EV hype reached a peak. I'LL never buy onw of them things.
Your loss.
@paulc6766 enjoy yo EV we going shopping
@paulc6766 cant lose what ya never had lol
love you for exposing him 22:02
ICE sales have always been good at our shop. We sell EVs also, but Recently we have noticed huge fall off in people looking at them . Sales as definitely down , by alot. No interest
Are you a salesman?
That's misleading as well. Both ICE and EV sales are down. And I know because I work for Chrysler
@@eman67rp nah, it's not misleading. His shop attracts a certain kind of people and he doesn't have the right EV to show for them.
It's misleading to say it is worldwide statistics because in my shop...
@@eman67rp EVs are like early times of the Apple Macbook, only 10% of the public would buy them & then flat-lined. No need to suggest the man is a liar.
@@navsofour2892 And the reason the Macbook did not replace the PC was it's cost (they never became relatively cheap), and the "walled garden" approach of Apple. Tesla is certainly TRYING the "walled garden" approach, but it was cheap PCs that drove the adoption of computers by everyone.
I built my first PC from boards and a generic case for about $2000 in 1982, that's $6500 today. For reference the PC/AT was $6000 USD in 1984. The one my employer bought for me as a developer? With all the options - max memory, EGA color monitor, PC LAN card, Irma card, modem ... - it was $13,000.
I don't think he implied OP is lying - I can't imagine buying a FORD EV at current pricing. The only viable choice in North America is (unfortunately) Tesla.
Thanks for getting the truth out and debunking the misinformation being spread, with facts.
EVs suck, just admit it. They are great for certain niches, but the infrastructure problems are horrendous.
For some people EVs are better. Just admit it.
I’ve thought about getting an EV but I do have some concerns. One of my biggest ones is winter, I live in a place with very cold, snowy, long winters and I worry about how well they work in the cold. I also do make a road trip once every few months over 500 miles, mostly through rural areas and I have no idea where charging stations are. But if I found one I don’t like the idea of adding another 30+ minutes to my trip. Probably more than that because I’d probably have to go way off route to find a charging station. Another concern is EVs are still so new, if I buy one today I’m afraid in 5 years there will be big advancements and mine will be outdated and the value will plummet
Just took delivery on a 2024 Tesla Model 3 a month ago. Had a wall charger installed in our garage. Took the first "road trip" shortly thereafter. Charged up to 85% to start. Drove from Columbia, MD to Bethlehem, PA. Had 102 miles left in the "tank". Drove around locally for a couple of days. Before starting back plugged in at the Supercharger at a nearby Sheetz. Went next door to get lunch at a Wendy's. We had just finished eating when my phone informed me that charging was done. Had charged to 80%. Drove from Bethlehem to Harrisburg to visit my cousin. On leaving Harrisburg for home "topped off" for 10 minutes at a local Supercharger station. Smooth! Happy camper! 😊 That guy is clueless! 😅
But you had to suffer through superior acceleration and insufficient stench
A heat pump is an air conditioner running in reverse. It's like taking the window air conditioner in your home and turning it around so that the hot air coming out the back is now pumped into the house. When the outside air temp gets much below 35 degrees, however, heat pumps pretty much stop working. When that happens, a resistive heating element in the unit is turned on to generate heat. No matter how you look at it, a lot of energy is used to heat and cool batteries. This is totally wasted energy that few people talk about.
Absolutely love how ICE car people suddenly care about ecology ...
🤣👍 Before discussing (or stating something) every ICE cars fan should have some training on ecology and the latest studies and statistics!
My MY and the petrol car stand side by side, MY covers 3 times longer distancies per year than the petrol car (7 years old). BTW - I am from Germany
Just bought my first EV Wednesday. I’ll be replacing the rest of my cars with EV’s as needed. Can’t see ever buying and ICE car again personally. I don’t think they should be banned or anything but we need both.
I don't understand why people hate EVs. It's a new entry in the auto market, it'll take a long time to get the infrastructure right.
It's mostly a case of many folks just don't understand how they work. Or they hear talking heads telling them EV's are bad!" and assume that if it won't work for them, it therefore wouldn't work for anyone else.
The smug arrogance of Musk and the cult turned off alot of people. We 're right and we are saving the the planet.
Cause one they don't have enough range to go on a trip, two they take 4 to 5 hours just to charge the stupid things, and three they lack soul and character as well.
@@CJColvin so a car lacks soul and character because it doesn't have an engine?
@@RAYDEEY17 Correct and not to mention that EVs are wayyyyyyy too quiet and wayyyyyyy too boring as well. Don't believe me then go watch Scotty Kilmer and he'll tell you the real truth about EVs ingeneral.
Ben , good job
He showed it himself, two cars were plugged in . If there was only a 50/50 chance then only one car would be plugged in and working.
I just bought my first EV this summer. I'm using an old electric dryer outlet to charge my Tesla from home. I love my car.
Just remember to look at the dryer plug receptacle to see if it's rated for continuous use. A dryer is made to operate for about an hour and turn off whereas the cars stays charging for several hours. The cheaper Chinese style receptacles were melting and a fire hazard.
You re really lost as your name says
@@nizar5191 And your problem?
@@Lost_In_LAYou seem like a Democrat to me.
@@CJColvin I’m more more on the Right than Ann Coulter.
I just bought an EV a month ago. The deal was just too good to pass! I would say buy it while the price is low and deals are everywhere!
You'll be Sorry as we were. It's gone now, and good riddance
This American just bought an EV. We are buying EVs!
I have stopped trying to convince people, if people want to lose big money that’s on them
RUclips seems to be deleting my links but, the main thing I’m trying to say is, my friend on Facebook was using the various news stories about Tesla Model 3s catching fire, requiring 6,000 to 8,000 gallons of water to extinguish, because it was their large battery pack that was on fire. My friend was using these stories to validate his anti-EV/pro-piston engine worldview.
Just a quick question. Does Cash Jordan want to inform us how much it costs to change the oil on a Bentley? Oh, don't worry, it comes with a free replacement of windshield wiper.
Here's a quote "Oil changes for Bentleys cost an estimated $500, with other required services which can range from $1,400 - $2,700 per year. We recommend an oil change every 6,000 miles, or 12 months - whichever comes first."