I’m not a fan of the Tendency System. In fact, I’m happy it never appeared again. It’s overly complicated and not really necessary. I am glad that the video helped you. Thank you for your comment.
Holy crap, this has got to be the best guide to world tendency out there. Thank you so much! I think the biggest thing that would fix the world tendency to make it much better AND easier would be if you could raise world tendency by helping others in boss fights. It would dramatically fix issues of being locked off of content and it doesn't make sense why it isn't this way already tbh
Good video, very informative. However, in the interest of clarity and to avoid confusion I will add some corrections/points. 1. In the section about Colorless Demon Souls you say that they can be used to upgrade boss weapons. This is incorrect, boss weapons are not upgradeable. 2. How you kill things matters for character tendency, but doesn’t matter for world tendency. Killing players/npcs with Soulsucker, damage over time from bleed/poison/plague, gravity/environmental damage, or in-game enemies will not affect your character tendency. For world tendency it doesn’t matter how they die. 3. For all of the world tendency effects, it is the host’s world tendency that matters. Your world tendency in your own world will not affect anything while you are invading/helping as a black/blue phantom. 4. You explain how to take your world tendency from pure black to pure white which includes killing both the black phantom npc and primeval demon for that archstone. This is correct but it should be made clear that you have to kill them both in one go, meaning without fast traveling or saving and quitting at any point before killing them both. If you kill one or the other, then reload the area by saving and quitting or fast traveling, the other will not be there when you come back because you raised your world tendency too high for them to spawn by killing the first one. The reason for this is that any actions you take to change your world tendency won’t show any effect until you reload the area. The good thing about this is that dying doesn’t count as reloading the area. So if you die after killing one of them, the other will still be there as long as you don’t reload the area. I agree that the tendency systems are horribly convoluted and inadequately explained in game.
I really like this comment. You are correct in all four points. This is information that I know, but either made a mistake in saying something erroneous or in omitting a detail. Point Four struck me particularly hard. I learnt about it the hard way and it cost me more than one game cycle. I definitively should have made a note about it in the video. Thank you for your contribution. Today, you helped me improve. I appreciate you watching and taking the time to comment.
@@FrownyGaming No problem, it just goes to show how unintuitive the tendency systems are. Your video is the most in-depth one I’ve seen on this for sure too, and the stuff I added is all from save scumming and testing things myself. The wikis don’t even have all the information, and between the two of us there might still be some things not covered. Even just calling it something like “Karma” instead of “Tendency” would have helped players guess as to what would affect it. You ought to pin my comment or add it to the description, eventually this video will blow up when more PS5s become available.
Made me feel so much better when he said that The Valley of Defilement sucked. Just finished that world and I hated it. That poison water was beyond annoying.
World 5 is ruthless. The area itself is harder than its bosses. And it hides some awesome items and weapons, so learning it is still a good idea. I am happy you got through it! Thank you for your comment!
I just picked up Demon’s souls, while I knew about world tendency , I had no idea how it worked. Having never played the original, this video helped me a ton, thank you!
This is hands down the best guide I've ever seen on this. I've never fully understood this until today. Thank you very much for sharing your knowledge.
8 months forward I know buy just to say...Frowny is one of the creators of this game that's how his knowledge is so good 😉 His videos have been extremely helpful for my journey through the game and a lot of work has gone into making all his videos, He explains things in a simple way so we all understand 👏
bro, i love your channel and I'm glad I got here before you were monetized. That way, when your channel is gigantic, i can say "I believed in him all along!" LOL - thanks for the info.
Thank you. Comments like these mean a lot to me. I appreciate your support at such an early stage of this project. Little by little, we can create a place where we can all improve and get good together. I appreciate your comment!
Bro I can’t imagine just how much effort you’ve already put into this video Your video are more and more informative it’s incredible I really hope you have tons of sub cuz you worth it
This video was about 2 weeks of work between research, getting footage, production and editing. It is definitely not perfect, but I am getting better. I am happy with the result. Thank you very much for your comment and kind words!
Wow!! This video should be shipped with every copy of the game!! This should be the official guide of Deamon Souls. Your work is absolutely incredible and AAA gaming studios should make notes how to present their own product. Thank you for all your hard work.
Every once in a while, I review all the comments I receive. I do this because RUclips does not notify me of them all and I know that there are viewers like you that really appreciate the content. I want to apologize that it took me so long to respond, and I want to thank you for your kind words. Your comment means a lot to me.
There is a really good physical fan-made guide of Demon's Souls on PS3 that comes with the Black Phantom Edition and it was a highly detailed explanation of every mechanic in the game including this. I regret selling my PS3 copy because I had never seen so much fan dedication to a game before. This game was truly a cult classic but sadly it was too niche and eventually forgotten.
It's a best guide. Subbed. It maybe not be very complicated, but the problem is that game is not giving enough information to the player what does what and with what intensity exactly. Lets give that comparision: When I'm upgrading the weapon with degree and type of upgrade, I'm able to test it directly in game, if it is a good upgrade for this type of weapon and my stats or not, but if I will die in body or defeat a boss, the eye will look the same for a new player, almost always. Game will not tell you this, must look for a yt guide (it should be written on a floor in the nexus)
Yeah, the Tendency System is definitely not the best idea. I am glad that it never came back. Thank you for your comment. I appreciate your kind words.
Dude as a lover and admirer of the Souls games, you deserve so much more. Lots of people say that and it doesn’t really change anything but I mean it. You’re like a professor of DeS teaching us all about these obtuse mechanics in a compelling, informative way. Thank you for all your hard work and Big Ups! Edit: You even go over the World Tendency events. This is so helpful.
I really appreciate your kind words. I love the Souls games and really like to look into how their mechanics works. Little by little, new viewers will find my content. For now, I am happy that you are here. Thank you.
My friend, do not get me started on my opinion of the Tendency System. You say annoying and I think that is being nice to it. I also have not missed it in any other Souls game. Mind you, I think it's a good idea, but BOY did they really mess up the execution. In any case, thank you for your comment. I appreciate it.
worth a sub.. amazing video, amazing channel. keep it up. unlike most people i actuslly enjoy these tendencies... there is a unique way of things to happen and increase the pve replay factor. awesome!
Thank you! I appreciate your comment and support. You do have a point on the PvE replay factor. I just wished that I could do PvP without having my Tendencies be affected by it.
Thank you for your kind words. Little by little, the channel is getting more subs. It’s all a matter of time. For now, I am happy that you are here. I have a lot planned for Elden Ring. With patience, a whole slew of material will be available. I can’t wait either. I appreciate your comment!
your videos are amazing and very detailed. I can tell the effort you put into these. And they are incredibly helpful as I go through my first playthrough. Thanks!
Tremendous upload👏 So informative 👍Woooo towards the end of ur video u talk about while being in pbwt and pure black character tendency witch I'm right now! So cause it stacks it 20% reduction for being in both so i hope I'll do ok 🙏 I'm on my 12 run through 😂 So im at the very end before i let the maiden take me down that black hole to the Boss I'm just farming and filling up my inventory on arrows first before going into my 13th run through 😉 hoops unlucky number 13 so hope it's not unlucky for me 😂 any addvize will be appreciated 🤗
Honestly, after 13 runs, you probably know more than me! NG+5 is the hardest the game gets, so you should not see any difference. I have a video where I go through all the details of NG+. Feel free to check it out. Thank you for your comment.
Very thorough and has re-motivated me to get back in for the last trophies. (Usuaully hate trophies as a concept but any excuse for more of this series, eh~)
I'll 100% agree with you on the tendency system it was executed extremely badly and although this is an amazing game a lot of players just can't get thier head around how all of it works including me so i hate the system with a passion ! iv watched loads of videos and yours is the best by far so well done i really appreciate the upload 👏 my world tendency is definitely all at moment 100% pure white ( all the worlds ) yet my character tendency has a whiteness to it with black and purple colour in it, sorry its hard for me to explain 🙈 i want my character tendency to get it to pure white like all my worlds are but don't know where iv gone wrong as every time iv killed a boss iv return to the nexus and jump to my death to keep it white 🤷♀️ dunno where I'm going wrong as the tendency system is very confusing 🤔 I'm on ng + 6 now 😂 yeah adore this game that much, I can't play on line either as iv no internet 😔
The Tendency System is one of the best signs that tell you that Demon's Souls is the first game of the series. It is a good idea that was executed very poorly. This is the reason why it does not return in any other game after it. I am glad to hear that the guide was useful. Thank you for your comment.
@@FrownyGaming Your videos are amazing and i can honestly say not one streamer out there iv ever watched comes close to you so well done👏 Strange this but I'm sure when it's end of game iv spotted ur names in the credits 🤔 keep doing what ur doing as you are the best streamer out there 👌
Very informative video, thank you! It seems like someone at Fromsoftware had all these great and unique ideas for this game, wrote them all on a napkin, and never knew how to properly execute them. I'm watching this video half thinking how cool this stuff is, yet how horrible it must be to try and see it all!
You are not wrong. Demon's Souls is the first game and you can see the philosophy that FromSoft wanted to implement. They made some obvious mistakes but we see them fixed in later Souls games. It is the first step of an incredible series. I don't like the Tendency System, but I accept it as a necessary evil for evolution to take place. We got Elden Ring because of these mistakes. This is life. Thank you for your comment.
Hahaha, I agree. This system isn't very good. I tried my best to enjoy this game with fresh eyes being a long time FromSoft fan and a first time Demon's Souls player (and without using any sort of guide on my first playthrough), and I was a little disappointed. It's still a fantastic game, but wow, I wish I knew how bad I was screwing up. This game doesn't really allow too much for experimentation, which is very unfortunate, given the sandbox-ish nature of the typical "Soulsborne" experience. Anyways, thanks for an excellent video. I'll be sure to dive back into this game with a fresh character after I forget about all the frustration.
Demon’s Souls, being the very first game, definitely had some mechanics that were not very friendly. There were very serious consequences for making mistakes. You can tell how much FromSoft has learned throughout the years when you play Demon’s Souls. The Tendency system is one of those things that works, but is not very fun. I am happy they got rid of it. Thank you for your comment. I appreciate your kind words.
I have reached PWWT, collected all Ceramic Coins, and done all White Tendency events. I am 2-2 now and received the Pure Greystone from Scirvir. I think it would be ok to kill Scirvir to reduce my World Tendency towards Black, but it is unclear how this impacts my Character Tendency so I can get the Ally Ring. Is it best to not kill Scirvir and suicide to get Stonefang Tunnel to PBWT? Thanks, nice job on these videos.
Good question. If you are looking to get the Ally's Ring by reaching Pure White Character Tendency then you should definitely NOT kill Scivir. Killing the Human NPC's is a great way of getting a good push towards Black Tendency and it would be recommended if you did not care about Character Tendency. That said, you are looking to keep up your Character Tendency, so it is not the best strategy. Keep him alive and go the suicide route. Thank you for your comment.
@@FrownyGaming Thanks I saved and tried not killing and killing Sciver, and I didn't see a change in my Character Tendency! I think it is okay to kill him, but I messed up and forgot to get the Ceramic Coins in PBWT and will have to go back later for that one coin there.
Alright, in order to help you, I will need a bit more information. What do you mean that "you can't move". Are you really physical unable to move? In order to avoid a World getting to Pure Black, the best way is to play in Soul form. That way you can die as many times as you need without affecting World Tendency. Thank you for your comment.
I like world tendency it allows the player to choose between easy mode(pure white) and hard mode (pure black). Playing in pure black is very rewarding, more souls are obtained and the drop rates for rare items are higher, and the fact that the player can be killed in 1 or 2 hits makes this feel like a survival horror game,, its awesome. However it should be easier for the player to shift from black to white tendency if they wanted to
That's basically like having a difficulty slider in the game, but with additional rewards. Honestly, I believe that this does not fit the general feeling of the Souls. White Tendency or Black Tendency is not a choice. It is a consequence of your actions. We have tools to manipulate it, but we cannot truly control it. Thank you for your comment.
@@FrownyGaming Your welcome, honestly such a great and detailed guide, really glad I found your channel, you deserve more recognition for your hard work.
20:24 I might be wrong, but once I wanted to kill both the black phantom and the primeval demon in one run, so I dont have to bring down the tendency again. I killed the primeval demond and without reseting or teleporting I ran to the black phantom and It wasnt there, then I realised that It was only black tendency, not pure black, my point is that I think primeval demons are spawning at black tendency already: 6:12 Or at least, this is the only explenation I can think of why this happened
This sounds odd. I'm afraid that I never had this happen to me, so I am not sure what could be the cause of it. In my case, I always had them both spawn, or neither. Thank you for your comment.
I discovered the effect of tendency just now that i’ve cleared some areas… If i’ve killed the penetrative there is now way I am going to change my tendency for the first world, is that correct?
Thank you! General farming - meaning defeating enemies over and over again and then resetting the level - has no effect on Tendency. The only things that can change tendency are those mentioned in the video. Thank you for your comment.
So if I understand correctly If I get pure black character tendency I can get red phantom pve’s to spawn...meaning I get to keep my pure white worlds? I need a black phantom to spawn to raise my world tendency in shrine of storms but im offline and I killed all the bosses :/ and its just stuck at white and I dont want to go to ng+ just yet.
No. Black Phantom NPC's are tied to WORLD Tendency, not CHARACTER Tendency. This means that, in order to have a Black Phantom NPC spawn, the corresponding Archstone needs to be in Pure Black World Tendency. Judging by your situation, without access to online, you will need to go to NG+ to get Shrine of Storms to Pure White. Hope this cleared it up for you. Thank you for your comment.
@@FrownyGaming thanks for confirming I have another question would killing Old King Doran lower my Character Tendency normally? What if I kill him with gas instead (since they don’t count apparently)? Edit: Nevermind, I got him and it didn’t affect my character tendency at all, I checked with my regalia and it’s still the same.
The Tendency System in this game is quite complex. As there is a lot of info. That said, there are time stamps in the description to help you navigate the content. I appreciate your comment.
I didn't realize how shit Demon's Souls world tendency system was until I played many Souls games after playing the original Demon's Souls on PS3 which didn't include this system. This faulty mechanic has the ability to competely ruin a playthrough, thereby forcing players to handicap themselves as a means of sidestepping this terrible mechanic. This forces players to pretty much play through the entire game in soul form which means you can't utilize your full heath bar for majority of the game. It also forces players to tie up one of two ring slots with the Cling ring, so they'll be limited to two 3rds of their full health bar instead of 1 half. 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
I completely agree. In my opinion, definitely the weakest part of the game. It could have been done so much better. There is nothing I can add to your opinion. Thank you for your comment!
I'd agree, by and large, but 'forcing us to use the cling ring' is a silly assertion. I seldom use it past the earliest game (at least for general play, i do tend to pop it back on at Boss time) Edit: It *is* a shit system. I loathe it. I loathe that i have to basically watch a video essay to finally get a handle on it for trophies. Once you have some hit points you can switch from cling to other stuff though~ (eg regen for most level clears)
Yeah, it was a bit of an exaggeration to say we are forced to use it. There are some good options after you level up Vitality, but Cling is just too useful.
@@Eunostos I obviously wasn't referring to you specifically, or even every single gamer who has ever played the game, but the bulk gamers who have run across this game in general (the original PS3 version and the remake). Because of this system it has become a common ritual to kill yourself in the Nexus to sidestep the ill effects of the dreaded world tendency system, then to equip the Cling Ring to mitigate the toll to your health bar that comes along with playing in soul form. You can decided to ditch the Cling ring later on if you'd like, but it doesn't change the fact that you have an even lower heath bar than you would with it, or many deaths that did occur wouldn't have occurred if world tendency didn't exist in the game and you had access to your full heath bar. I still enjoy the game as many others do. Hell, I finished around 10 playthroughs on PS3 back in the day and around 4 thus far on PS5. But that doesn't change fact that players shouldn't have to handicap themselves at any point in a game to avoid a potentially game breaking mechanic, or the fact that the world tendency system doesn't mesh with the game as the devs intended, which is likely why it has never appeared in another Souls game since.
Did you know the ps3 version has a dupe glitch not patched on ps5. This glitch allowed me to dupe and use boss souls of every stage lots of times. By SL 180 i had turned pure white everywhere by just doing this. I feel theres a hidden mechanic based on how many times you kill and use boss souls too.
The Remake was an almost complete replica of the original code. Very few things were changed/added. It does not surprise me that the glitch made it. Personally, I do not use any of these exploits when I play but it certainly seems very effective as amassing materials. Thank you for your comment.
@@FrownyGaming i only do it on ps3 because its the quickest way to get a platinum and save time farming. Loading screens are slow and the digital game version is an awful port. It was also used only for pvp builds. It allows you to dupe souls, stones, and anything consumable. But i played this game a lot back in the day. The game is really easy in ps3. All you need is firestorm and all bosses are dead. Poison cloud for dragon and doran
But what if you already killed all the bosses and ur in black and u wanna go back to pure white how are u supposed to do that if u can only fight the bosses the 1 time?????
I think you might the only viewer who has commented that they enjoy the system. It normally gets a lot of hate. I won't lie. I am happy that it is gone. It is over complicated and it doesn't really provide a lot of values to the game. Still, if they were to improve upon it and make it less tedious, I would give it another chance. Thank you for your comment.
I have just killed dragon god i did not get pure white, i do not have ps subscription, so i cant play multiplayer component, im locked out of purewhite for this playthrough?
@@FrownyGaming well, I glitched the wall to grab the dragon smasher, this mechanic is missing features, there should always be a way to change the world tendency (AI invaders) this is pretty much a souls pay to win haha
Correct. Character Tendency is separate from World Tendency. It is easier to change Character Tendency online, but it can still be done offline. For example, if you kill innocent NPC’s (merchants), it will shift to Black Character Tendency. Hope this helps. Thank you for your comment.
This sounds odd. Unfortunately, it would not be the first time that the Tendency system bugged an interaction. That is one of the worst parts about it. Sometimes it does not work. I hope that you are able to resolve this. Thank you for your comment.
Thanks for replying to my comment ❤️ Unfortunately I accidentally had to start a new game+ I was trying to read a message that was near the archstone that sends you to the end of the game and I didn't have anything to get back to the Nexus. I will just try it again in this new game, but thanks for taking some of your time to reply this comment. BTW, I really love your videos!! ❤️❤️❤️
Hi all i need some help. I got to white just before pure white but killed all 3 bosses in stone tunnel is there anyway for me to get pure white or is ng+ needed😢?
This sounds like a tough situation. If you do not want to hit NG+ yet, then the best way to get the final bump into Pure White is to defeat an invading phantom. Thank you for your comment.
You need to defeat Black Phantom players that invade your world. Each Black Phantom that you defeat will get you +30% Tendency. Thank you for your comment.
When I played this on PS3, I could not get a handle of what was going on with World Tendency. That is why I set out to make this guide for the Remake. I hate the mechanic and I am glad that it is gone. Thank you for your comment.
I can't believe I have to watch a 44 minutes long video on the internet to explain a game mechanic because the game itself doesn't explain anything at all. Is this obscure/vague on purpose or is it just the worst game design imaginable?
Demon’s Souls is the first game in the series. It made some really good decisions that made it very popular. The Tendency System was NOT one of them. It is overly complicated and not fun to use. That’s why it has not returned in any other game. This guide can give you the information you need in about 20 minutes, and then the other half of the video is every Tendency event. You can just consult those as you need them. Hopefully it helped. Thank you for your comment.
The system was not good. It is evident from the fact that it did not make an appearance in any other game after it. If they revisit it, they would have to make some serious changes. Thank you for your comment.
This is a stupid mechanic. Punish the player by making the game harder (black tendency). And forcing the player to be near perfect in order to make the game easier? (White tendency) This is the worst part of the game. What garbage game design. Especially when the whole meaning of souls games is dying and learning enemy patterns and getting better. U cant focus on that when the game is punishing you even more each time u die. 🙄😒 Adaptive difficulty should have been the best choice here. If the player is struggling then make things abit easier. But if the player overcomes challenges, then make it harder! Plus the fact that certain tendencies are required to trigger in game events like having a door open or something else, is so f*cking stupid. Which means if you really suck at the game, then enjoy being punished with harder enemies and challenges etc and never really getting anywhere. What bullsh*t.😡😒
So dumb question: if you complete the quest of an NPC from pure white tendency, will you be able to encounter their black phantom version when you shift to pure black?
incredible. How did you manage to put something so complicated in a simple way? Good job and thank you
I’m not a fan of the Tendency System. In fact, I’m happy it never appeared again. It’s overly complicated and not really necessary. I am glad that the video helped you. Thank you for your comment.
He is one of the creators of this game so hense why he is so knowledgeable 😉 his guides are brilliant 👏
Holy crap, this has got to be the best guide to world tendency out there. Thank you so much! I think the biggest thing that would fix the world tendency to make it much better AND easier would be if you could raise world tendency by helping others in boss fights. It would dramatically fix issues of being locked off of content and it doesn't make sense why it isn't this way already tbh
Thank you! I appreciate your comment.
Good video, very informative. However, in the interest of clarity and to avoid confusion I will add some corrections/points.
1. In the section about Colorless Demon Souls you say that they can be used to upgrade boss weapons. This is incorrect, boss weapons are not upgradeable.
2. How you kill things matters for character tendency, but doesn’t matter for world tendency. Killing players/npcs with Soulsucker, damage over time from bleed/poison/plague, gravity/environmental damage, or in-game enemies will not affect your character tendency. For world tendency it doesn’t matter how they die.
3. For all of the world tendency effects, it is the host’s world tendency that matters. Your world tendency in your own world will not affect anything while you are invading/helping as a black/blue phantom.
4. You explain how to take your world tendency from pure black to pure white which includes killing both the black phantom npc and primeval demon for that archstone. This is correct but it should be made clear that you have to kill them both in one go, meaning without fast traveling or saving and quitting at any point before killing them both. If you kill one or the other, then reload the area by saving and quitting or fast traveling, the other will not be there when you come back because you raised your world tendency too high for them to spawn by killing the first one. The reason for this is that any actions you take to change your world tendency won’t show any effect until you reload the area. The good thing about this is that dying doesn’t count as reloading the area. So if you die after killing one of them, the other will still be there as long as you don’t reload the area.
I agree that the tendency systems are horribly convoluted and inadequately explained in game.
I really like this comment. You are correct in all four points. This is information that I know, but either made a mistake in saying something erroneous or in omitting a detail.
Point Four struck me particularly hard. I learnt about it the hard way and it cost me more than one game cycle. I definitively should have made a note about it in the video.
Thank you for your contribution. Today, you helped me improve. I appreciate you watching and taking the time to comment.
@@FrownyGaming No problem, it just goes to show how unintuitive the tendency systems are. Your video is the most in-depth one I’ve seen on this for sure too, and the stuff I added is all from save scumming and testing things myself. The wikis don’t even have all the information, and between the two of us there might still be some things not covered.
Even just calling it something like “Karma” instead of “Tendency” would have helped players guess as to what would affect it. You ought to pin my comment or add it to the description, eventually this video will blow up when more PS5s become available.
Made me feel so much better when he said that The Valley of Defilement sucked. Just finished that world and I hated it. That poison water was beyond annoying.
World 5 is ruthless. The area itself is harder than its bosses. And it hides some awesome items and weapons, so learning it is still a good idea. I am happy you got through it! Thank you for your comment!
I just picked up Demon’s souls, while I knew about world tendency , I had no idea how it worked. Having never played the original, this video helped me a ton, thank you!
I am very happy to see this. Good luck on your playthrough, and thank you for your comment!
This is hands down the best guide I've ever seen on this. I've never fully understood this until today. Thank you very much for sharing your knowledge.
Thank you! I appreciate your comment and support.
8 months forward I know buy just to say...Frowny is one of the creators of this game that's how his knowledge is so good 😉 His videos have been extremely helpful for my journey through the game and a lot of work has gone into making all his videos, He explains things in a simple way so we all understand 👏
The most underrated channel of FromSoft games
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bro, i love your channel and I'm glad I got here before you were monetized. That way, when your channel is gigantic, i can say "I believed in him all along!" LOL - thanks for the info.
Thank you. Comments like these mean a lot to me. I appreciate your support at such an early stage of this project. Little by little, we can create a place where we can all improve and get good together. I appreciate your comment!
Bro I can’t imagine just how much effort you’ve already put into this video
Your video are more and more informative it’s incredible I really hope you have tons of sub cuz you worth it
This video was about 2 weeks of work between research, getting footage, production and editing. It is definitely not perfect, but I am getting better. I am happy with the result. Thank you very much for your comment and kind words!
@@FrownyGaming Do not thank me cuz you work yourself so hard that you 100% deserve all the credits and compliments
Wow!! This video should be shipped with every copy of the game!! This should be the official guide of Deamon Souls.
Your work is absolutely incredible and AAA gaming studios should make notes how to present their own product. Thank you for all your hard work.
Every once in a while, I review all the comments I receive. I do this because RUclips does not notify me of them all and I know that there are viewers like you that really appreciate the content. I want to apologize that it took me so long to respond, and I want to thank you for your kind words. Your comment means a lot to me.
There is a really good physical fan-made guide of Demon's Souls on PS3 that comes with the Black Phantom Edition and it was a highly detailed explanation of every mechanic in the game including this. I regret selling my PS3 copy because I had never seen so much fan dedication to a game before. This game was truly a cult classic but sadly it was too niche and eventually forgotten.
It's a best guide. Subbed. It maybe not be very complicated, but the problem is that game is not giving enough information to the player what does what and with what intensity exactly.
Lets give that comparision:
When I'm upgrading the weapon with degree and type of upgrade, I'm able to test it directly in game, if it is a good upgrade for this type of weapon and my stats or not,
but if I will die in body or defeat a boss, the eye will look the same for a new player, almost always. Game will not tell you this, must look for a yt guide (it should be written on a floor in the nexus)
Yeah, the Tendency System is definitely not the best idea. I am glad that it never came back. Thank you for your comment. I appreciate your kind words.
He is actually one of the creators of this game that's how he knows his stuff 100% 😉
the fact that a video explaining how these work is 44 minutes long just shows how fucking awful the mechanics are
World Tendency is definitely one of the weaker parts of the game. Good idea, bad execution. Thank you for your comment.
This is the most comprehensive guide for a game I have ever seen. Subscribed. Umbasa my friend, Umbasa.
Thank you! ! I appreciate your comment and kind words.
Dude as a lover and admirer of the Souls games, you deserve so much more. Lots of people say that and it doesn’t really change anything but I mean it. You’re like a professor of DeS teaching us all about these obtuse mechanics in a compelling, informative way. Thank you for all your hard work and Big Ups!
Edit: You even go over the World Tendency events. This is so helpful.
I really appreciate your kind words. I love the Souls games and really like to look into how their mechanics works. Little by little, new viewers will find my content. For now, I am happy that you are here. Thank you.
That was mind blowing. To decode all the shit going on in the game and creating such a simplified version is commendable. Thanks bro!!
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Informative video of (in my opinion annoying) the tendency system in demon souls. I didnt missed it in bloodborne at all 😜. Ty for all the info
My friend, do not get me started on my opinion of the Tendency System. You say annoying and I think that is being nice to it. I also have not missed it in any other Souls game. Mind you, I think it's a good idea, but BOY did they really mess up the execution. In any case, thank you for your comment. I appreciate it.
this is crazy...this is what I call QUALITY CONTENT
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If you gotta make a 45 min video to explain it.. it’s definitely overdone
Oh yeah. Definitely happy that this system never returned. Thank you for your comment.
worth a sub.. amazing video, amazing channel. keep it up.
unlike most people i actuslly enjoy these tendencies... there is a unique way of things to happen and increase the pve replay factor. awesome!
Thank you! I appreciate your comment and support. You do have a point on the PvE replay factor. I just wished that I could do PvP without having my Tendencies be affected by it.
Thank you for the best tendency guide!!!! You're awesome!!!🙂
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You deserve more subs with this high quality content. Can’t wait for Elden ring
Thank you for your kind words. Little by little, the channel is getting more subs. It’s all a matter of time. For now, I am happy that you are here.
I have a lot planned for Elden Ring. With patience, a whole slew of material will be available. I can’t wait either. I appreciate your comment!
your videos are amazing and very detailed. I can tell the effort you put into these. And they are incredibly helpful as I go through my first playthrough. Thanks!
Thank you. I am happy that they are helpful to you. I appreciate your comment and kind words.
This is hands down the best breakdown. Thank you I finally understand this 💪🏽
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Tremendous upload👏 So informative 👍Woooo towards the end of ur video u talk about while being in pbwt and pure black character tendency witch I'm right now! So cause it stacks it 20% reduction for being in both so i hope I'll do ok 🙏 I'm on my 12 run through 😂 So im at the very end before i let the maiden take me down that black hole to the Boss I'm just farming and filling up my inventory on arrows first before going into my 13th run through 😉 hoops unlucky number 13 so hope it's not unlucky for me 😂 any addvize will be appreciated 🤗
Honestly, after 13 runs, you probably know more than me! NG+5 is the hardest the game gets, so you should not see any difference. I have a video where I go through all the details of NG+. Feel free to check it out. Thank you for your comment.
Cool video man, very well explained! Thank you!
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This video will be helping people for years to come
I hope so! Thank you for your comment.
Very thorough and has re-motivated me to get back in for the last trophies. (Usuaully hate trophies as a concept but any excuse for more of this series, eh~)
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This is an awesome guide! Thank you for your work!
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Well .. looks like I'm going to do a few more play throughs.
This game is well worth it. Thank you for your comment!
I'll 100% agree with you on the tendency system it was executed extremely badly and although this is an amazing game a lot of players just can't get thier head around how all of it works including me so i hate the system with a passion ! iv watched loads of videos and yours is the best by far so well done i really appreciate the upload 👏 my world tendency is definitely all at moment 100% pure white ( all the worlds ) yet my character tendency has a whiteness to it with black and purple colour in it, sorry its hard for me to explain 🙈 i want my character tendency to get it to pure white like all my worlds are but don't know where iv gone wrong as every time iv killed a boss iv return to the nexus and jump to my death to keep it white 🤷♀️ dunno where I'm going wrong as the tendency system is very confusing 🤔 I'm on ng + 6 now 😂 yeah adore this game that much, I can't play on line either as iv no internet 😔
The Tendency System is one of the best signs that tell you that Demon's Souls is the first game of the series. It is a good idea that was executed very poorly. This is the reason why it does not return in any other game after it. I am glad to hear that the guide was useful. Thank you for your comment.
@@FrownyGaming Your videos are amazing and i can honestly say not one streamer out there iv ever watched comes close to you so well done👏 Strange this but I'm sure when it's end of game iv spotted ur names in the credits 🤔 keep doing what ur doing as you are the best streamer out there 👌
Very informative video, thank you! It seems like someone at Fromsoftware had all these great and unique ideas for this game, wrote them all on a napkin, and never knew how to properly execute them. I'm watching this video half thinking how cool this stuff is, yet how horrible it must be to try and see it all!
You are not wrong. Demon's Souls is the first game and you can see the philosophy that FromSoft wanted to implement. They made some obvious mistakes but we see them fixed in later Souls games. It is the first step of an incredible series. I don't like the Tendency System, but I accept it as a necessary evil for evolution to take place. We got Elden Ring because of these mistakes. This is life. Thank you for your comment.
Hahaha, I agree. This system isn't very good. I tried my best to enjoy this game with fresh eyes being a long time FromSoft fan and a first time Demon's Souls player (and without using any sort of guide on my first playthrough), and I was a little disappointed. It's still a fantastic game, but wow, I wish I knew how bad I was screwing up. This game doesn't really allow too much for experimentation, which is very unfortunate, given the sandbox-ish nature of the typical "Soulsborne" experience. Anyways, thanks for an excellent video. I'll be sure to dive back into this game with a fresh character after I forget about all the frustration.
Demon’s Souls, being the very first game, definitely had some mechanics that were not very friendly. There were very serious consequences for making mistakes. You can tell how much FromSoft has learned throughout the years when you play Demon’s Souls.
The Tendency system is one of those things that works, but is not very fun. I am happy they got rid of it. Thank you for your comment. I appreciate your kind words.
you deserve more subs for this.. thank you so much
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BROOO I LOVE UR EXPLANATION!!!! U REALLY HELP ME!!
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I have reached PWWT, collected all Ceramic Coins, and done all White Tendency events. I am 2-2 now and received the Pure Greystone from Scirvir. I think it would be ok to kill Scirvir to reduce my World Tendency towards Black, but it is unclear how this impacts my Character Tendency so I can get the Ally Ring. Is it best to not kill Scirvir and suicide to get Stonefang Tunnel to PBWT? Thanks, nice job on these videos.
Good question. If you are looking to get the Ally's Ring by reaching Pure White Character Tendency then you should definitely NOT kill Scivir.
Killing the Human NPC's is a great way of getting a good push towards Black Tendency and it would be recommended if you did not care about Character Tendency. That said, you are looking to keep up your Character Tendency, so it is not the best strategy.
Keep him alive and go the suicide route. Thank you for your comment.
@@FrownyGaming Thanks I saved and tried not killing and killing Sciver, and I didn't see a change in my Character Tendency! I think it is okay to kill him, but I messed up and forgot to get the Ceramic Coins in PBWT and will have to go back later for that one coin there.
ıam stuck ın a world ı cant even move the world ıs pureblack please help what ı wıll do
Alright, in order to help you, I will need a bit more information. What do you mean that "you can't move". Are you really physical unable to move?
In order to avoid a World getting to Pure Black, the best way is to play in Soul form. That way you can die as many times as you need without affecting World Tendency. Thank you for your comment.
@@FrownyGaming ıts pure black enemyıes ıs so strong can you help🙄
This was me man was it wicked lol finally got it normal though this game is dope
I kind of want to do a challenge run at some point where I shift all worlds to Pure Black ASAP and maintain Pure Black the whole game.
It's definitely a challenge, specially if you do it in NG+. Let me know if you ever go for it. Thank you for your comment.
This is the video i was looking for. Thank you!
I am glad that you found it useful. Thank you for your comment.
I like world tendency it allows the player to choose between easy mode(pure white) and hard mode (pure black). Playing in pure black is very rewarding, more souls are obtained and the drop rates for rare items are higher, and the fact that the player can be killed in 1 or 2 hits makes this feel like a survival horror game,, its awesome. However it should be easier for the player to shift from black to white tendency if they wanted to
That's basically like having a difficulty slider in the game, but with additional rewards. Honestly, I believe that this does not fit the general feeling of the Souls. White Tendency or Black Tendency is not a choice. It is a consequence of your actions. We have tools to manipulate it, but we cannot truly control it. Thank you for your comment.
Very Helpful, Thanks alot!
I’m glad it helped. Thank you for your comment!
@@FrownyGaming Your welcome, honestly such a great and detailed guide, really glad I found your channel, you deserve more recognition for your hard work.
Aka pain in the ass system
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Great presentation thumbs up and subscribed keep them up.
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20:24 I might be wrong, but once I wanted to kill both the black phantom and the primeval demon in one run, so I dont have to bring down the tendency again. I killed the primeval demond and without reseting or teleporting I ran to the black phantom and It wasnt there, then I realised that It was only black tendency, not pure black, my point is that I think primeval demons are spawning at black tendency already: 6:12 Or at least, this is the only explenation I can think of why this happened
This sounds odd. I'm afraid that I never had this happen to me, so I am not sure what could be the cause of it. In my case, I always had them both spawn, or neither. Thank you for your comment.
I discovered the effect of tendency just now that i’ve cleared some areas…
If i’ve killed the penetrative there is now way I am going to change my tendency for the first world, is that correct?
You can still change the Tendency of World 1 by killing the blue and red dragons. There is also PvP. Thank you for your comment.
The most needlessly complicated mechanic in video game history. One of the best games I've ever played but honestly WTF...WHY.
100% agree. I truly dislike this system and I am happy that it did not return in the other games. Thank you for your comment.
Awesome guide, does farming affect world tendency?
Thank you! General farming - meaning defeating enemies over and over again and then resetting the level - has no effect on Tendency. The only things that can change tendency are those mentioned in the video. Thank you for your comment.
This is a great guide. Thank you!
I am happy you liked it. Thank you for your comment.
So if I understand correctly If I get pure black character tendency I can get red phantom pve’s to spawn...meaning I get to keep my pure white worlds?
I need a black phantom to spawn to raise my world tendency in shrine of storms but im offline and I killed all the bosses :/ and its just stuck at white and I dont want to go to ng+ just yet.
No. Black Phantom NPC's are tied to WORLD Tendency, not CHARACTER Tendency. This means that, in order to have a Black Phantom NPC spawn, the corresponding Archstone needs to be in Pure Black World Tendency.
Judging by your situation, without access to online, you will need to go to NG+ to get Shrine of Storms to Pure White. Hope this cleared it up for you. Thank you for your comment.
@@FrownyGaming thanks for confirming I have another question would killing Old King Doran lower my Character Tendency normally? What if I kill him with gas instead (since they don’t count apparently)? Edit: Nevermind, I got him and it didn’t affect my character tendency at all, I checked with my regalia and it’s still the same.
Looks at length of video…
Says wow.
The Tendency System in this game is quite complex. As there is a lot of info. That said, there are time stamps in the description to help you navigate the content. I appreciate your comment.
Amazing job bro
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Awesome video.
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I didn't realize how shit Demon's Souls world tendency system was until I played many Souls games after playing the original Demon's Souls on PS3 which didn't include this system. This faulty mechanic has the ability to competely ruin a playthrough, thereby forcing players to handicap themselves as a means of sidestepping this terrible mechanic.
This forces players to pretty much play through the entire game in soul form which means you can't utilize your full heath bar for majority of the game. It also forces players to tie up one of two ring slots with the Cling ring, so they'll be limited to two 3rds of their full health bar instead of 1 half. 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
I completely agree. In my opinion, definitely the weakest part of the game. It could have been done so much better. There is nothing I can add to your opinion. Thank you for your comment!
I'd agree, by and large, but 'forcing us to use the cling ring' is a silly assertion. I seldom use it past the earliest game (at least for general play, i do tend to pop it back on at Boss time)
Edit: It *is* a shit system. I loathe it. I loathe that i have to basically watch a video essay to finally get a handle on it for trophies. Once you have some hit points you can switch from cling to other stuff though~ (eg regen for most level clears)
Yeah, it was a bit of an exaggeration to say we are forced to use it. There are some good options after you level up Vitality, but Cling is just too useful.
@@Eunostos I obviously wasn't referring to you specifically, or even every single gamer who has ever played the game, but the bulk gamers who have run across this game in general (the original PS3 version and the remake). Because of this system it has become a common ritual to kill yourself in the Nexus to sidestep the ill effects of the dreaded world tendency system, then to equip the Cling Ring to mitigate the toll to your health bar that comes along with playing in soul form.
You can decided to ditch the Cling ring later on if you'd like, but it doesn't change the fact that you have an even lower heath bar than you would with it, or many deaths that did occur wouldn't have occurred if world tendency didn't exist in the game and you had access to your full heath bar. I still enjoy the game as many others do. Hell, I finished around 10 playthroughs on PS3 back in the day and around 4 thus far on PS5. But that doesn't change fact that players shouldn't have to handicap themselves at any point in a game to avoid a potentially game breaking mechanic, or the fact that the world tendency system doesn't mesh with the game as the devs intended, which is likely why it has never appeared in another Souls game since.
Did you know the ps3 version has a dupe glitch not patched on ps5. This glitch allowed me to dupe and use boss souls of every stage lots of times. By SL 180 i had turned pure white everywhere by just doing this. I feel theres a hidden mechanic based on how many times you kill and use boss souls too.
The Remake was an almost complete replica of the original code. Very few things were changed/added. It does not surprise me that the glitch made it. Personally, I do not use any of these exploits when I play but it certainly seems very effective as amassing materials. Thank you for your comment.
@@FrownyGaming i only do it on ps3 because its the quickest way to get a platinum and save time farming. Loading screens are slow and the digital game version is an awful port.
It was also used only for pvp builds. It allows you to dupe souls, stones, and anything consumable.
But i played this game a lot back in the day. The game is really easy in ps3. All you need is firestorm and all bosses are dead. Poison cloud for dragon and doran
If the npc black phantoms die from fall damage, will this also not change your character tendancy or is that only for invading players?
If NPC Black Phantoms fall to their death, it will not affect Character Tendency. You need to deal the finishing blow. Thank you for your comment.
But what if you already killed all the bosses and ur in black and u wanna go back to pure white how are u supposed to do that if u can only fight the bosses the 1 time?????
This is a tough situation. The options here are going into NG+ to reset the bosses or to participate in PvP. Thank you for your comment.
The world tendency is fantastic. I love it. I wish it was carried over to another game.
I think you might the only viewer who has commented that they enjoy the system. It normally gets a lot of hate. I won't lie. I am happy that it is gone. It is over complicated and it doesn't really provide a lot of values to the game. Still, if they were to improve upon it and make it less tedious, I would give it another chance. Thank you for your comment.
I have just killed dragon god i did not get pure white,
i do not have ps subscription, so i cant play multiplayer component,
im locked out of purewhite for this playthrough?
Yes. Without access to online content, you will have to wait until NG+ to move that up to Pure White. Thank you for your comment.
@@FrownyGaming well, I glitched the wall to grab the dragon smasher, this mechanic is missing features, there should always be a way to change the world tendency (AI invaders) this is pretty much a souls pay to win haha
Flawless guide. Thank you l.
I am glad you enjoyed it. Thank you for your comment and kind words.
Hello so if ie understand the tendency character is only affective on online mode with invading end not world tendance I am rith ??
Correct. Character Tendency is separate from World Tendency. It is easier to change Character Tendency online, but it can still be done offline. For example, if you kill innocent NPC’s (merchants), it will shift to Black Character Tendency. Hope this helps. Thank you for your comment.
@@FrownyGaming thanks you very much
For the fifth archstone, I killed BP Garl and went to Selen. For some reason she doesn’t give me anything.
Help me please :(
This sounds odd. Unfortunately, it would not be the first time that the Tendency system bugged an interaction. That is one of the worst parts about it. Sometimes it does not work. I hope that you are able to resolve this. Thank you for your comment.
Thanks for replying to my comment ❤️
Unfortunately I accidentally had to start a new game+
I was trying to read a message that was near the archstone that sends you to the end of the game and I didn't have anything to get back to the Nexus.
I will just try it again in this new game, but thanks for taking some of your time to reply this comment.
BTW, I really love your videos!! ❤️❤️❤️
Hi all i need some help. I got to white just before pure white but killed all 3 bosses in stone tunnel is there anyway for me to get pure white or is ng+ needed😢?
I havent gone pure black yet
This sounds like a tough situation. If you do not want to hit NG+ yet, then the best way to get the final bump into Pure White is to defeat an invading phantom. Thank you for your comment.
How to change world tendency to pure White without killing bosses?
You need to defeat Black Phantom players that invade your world. Each Black Phantom that you defeat will get you +30% Tendency. Thank you for your comment.
@@FrownyGaming but I think when we kill black phantons we change The character tendency not The world tendency. Right?
@@luizandresalomao That is correct, it also changes the Character Tendency. This affects both World and Character Tendency.
I was there when it was written on ps3
When I played this on PS3, I could not get a handle of what was going on with World Tendency. That is why I set out to make this guide for the Remake. I hate the mechanic and I am glad that it is gone. Thank you for your comment.
@FrownyGaming wait but the mechanic Is still in the remake bro
@@nickpevey2471 Of course. I meant that I’m glad it was scrapped after Demon’s Souls and never made it into the following games.
@@FrownyGaming ohh gotcha
I need help to get white tendency, can anyone help me with the PvP?
I can help you if you still need it?
@@ilosemy1s-_-265 i do, how can i add You?
This mechanic is fun but doesn’t really work well in my opinion.
Agreed. It’s a good idea that was executed very poorly. Thank you for your comment.
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I can't believe I have to watch a 44 minutes long video on the internet to explain a game mechanic because the game itself doesn't explain anything at all.
Is this obscure/vague on purpose or is it just the worst game design imaginable?
Demon’s Souls is the first game in the series. It made some really good decisions that made it very popular. The Tendency System was NOT one of them. It is overly complicated and not fun to use. That’s why it has not returned in any other game.
This guide can give you the information you need in about 20 minutes, and then the other half of the video is every Tendency event. You can just consult those as you need them.
Hopefully it helped. Thank you for your comment.
LOL "Strap on"
World Tendency is a bumpy topic. Hands and feet secured please. Thank you for your comment.
Thank god they didn't used this system in Dark Souls or Elden Ring, it sucks! Umbasa
I agree. This is something that I am happy never came back. It is such a troublesome system. Thank you for your comment.
this system could be good if it was more consistent, as it stands it really sucks
The system was not good. It is evident from the fact that it did not make an appearance in any other game after it. If they revisit it, they would have to make some serious changes.
Thank you for your comment.
45 minute clip omg
It is a difficult system to explain. There was a lot of content to go over and I had to make sure it was understandable. Thank you for your comment.
wow
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This is a stupid mechanic. Punish the player by making the game harder (black tendency). And forcing the player to be near perfect in order to make the game easier? (White tendency)
This is the worst part of the game. What garbage game design. Especially when the whole meaning of souls games is dying and learning enemy patterns and getting better. U cant focus on that when the game is punishing you even more each time u die. 🙄😒
Adaptive difficulty should have been the best choice here. If the player is struggling then make things abit easier. But if the player overcomes challenges, then make it harder!
Plus the fact that certain tendencies are required to trigger in game events like having a door open or something else, is so f*cking stupid. Which means if you really suck at the game, then enjoy being punished with harder enemies and challenges etc and never really getting anywhere. What bullsh*t.😡😒
So dumb question: if you complete the quest of an NPC from pure white tendency, will you be able to encounter their black phantom version when you shift to pure black?
Yes. You can definitely go from white to black and spawn the Black Phantoms. Thank you for your comment.
@@FrownyGaming YES! I was worried I couldn't get the beast talisman if I didn't prioritize pure black tendency on the ronin ring guy~