It's because police in Scotland don't care about being wrong, or consequence of those actions on members of the public. because "they" don't have to face any consequence if they mess up.
Can you claim for New battery required (safety) as it's not been correctly stored. Also what about other costs... how does it all work if all charges are dropped, but you had to hire a legal representative?
Ex cop here. Sue them for false arrest. In England ( don’t know about Scotland) the unofficial going rate is two grand for every wrongful hour you spend in custody. Plus your lawyer fees and something on top for the inconvenience.
Good luck with that, the pigs here are near untouchable as them being negligent is unbelievably not something you can sue the pigs for. You need to prove they acted maliciously, which is near impossible.
@@just-gaming213 That's why a Bill of Rights with the backing of a Constitution with overwhelming authority over every law and unique to Scotland is an essential. Watch as that suggestion falls on the deaf ears and dumb mouths of those crooks in the SNP government.
Brilliant. And now it is your turn. 1. Formal complaints for false arrest 2. Sue for false arrest, vindictive prosecution and the lengthy holding of your equipment. 3. Name and shame all those involved from the arresting officers, the desk Sgt and the charging officer.
Don't call it confiscation. They illegally seized your property which at the time is theft and is until it is actually returned. If they've been looking at anything on your phone or drone its also invasion of privacy to add to the compensation claim.
Thanks for the update, and I’m amazed the police even progressed this non crime, and i hope you get a decent settlement from the police for the hassle they have unnecessarily put you through. We enjoyed watching your lovely doggy in the video😀.
Good news on the case being dropped. It's understandable that not all cops know all the laws regarding all types of drones, its unacceptable for them to just ignore that there is a difference. If they were unsure they could have checked with their own drone team. 🤔
It should have been picked up when being admitted into custody. It should have been picked up before the charges were authorised. So many blatant errors here!
You MUST sue them. They violated your Rights. As for being 'delighted' to have the charges dropped, I'd be furious to be charged in the first place. GO GET EM.
The police incompetence in failure to thoroughly investigate and unlawfully confiscate your property gives you grounds to sue them and complain about misconduct. I encourage you to see that through to teach these idiots a lesson in law and to prevent another unlawful arrest.
Different legal jurisdictions. Scotland has its own legal system that differs from the laws of England and Wales. It's extremely difficult to sue the police in Scotland.
Sue the hell out of them this is so dangerous two police not knowing the law .come to think about it doesn’t seem none in that police station knows it neither.very dangerous for the citizens of Scotland 😢😢
Really sorry for what you’ve been through. I have a mini 4 Pro so in effect, you’ve gone through this on my behalf too. Well done, my friend!! Thank you.
In England they keep property, refuse to give it back, itthen ends up being taken home by officers as lost property. Theft! Fortunately in England we can make an Application to the Magistrates Court under The Police Property Act to force the return of property.
@tonto2455 But Lawful Does , Cops operate under Commercial Acts & Statutes of Parliament but They swear an Oath to Uphold the Law Under Common Law that the Monarch Swears to Uphold @ Their Coronation. They're there to Protect & Serve the Sovereign People under Common Law,, Do No ONE No Harm,, Cause No ONE No Loss ,, No Crimes Committed ps. House of Commons Library Police Powers an Introduction 21 Oct 2021 The Core Duty of the " Police Service " is To Protect The Public by Detecting & Preventing Crime, This Duty is Established in Common Law...
The Civil action for false arrest & compensation for loss of income is essential , otherwise they have Won. They have stopped you filming for 9-10 months, that was the sole purpose of this illegal arrest
Thanks for the update. If you don't take them to court over this then they won't get the message that they can't just make up their own laws on a whim. If your income stream entirely rested on the drone footage (as many RUclipsrs are) then you should be compensated for nearly a year's worth of income! Best of luck mate. I hope you get some justice.
I recall watching a video posted by a London ULEZ protester who had his recording equipment and phone confiscated, when it was returned the SD card had been wiped.
Sue them for every penny you can. The way they have treated you and your equipment was disgracefully out of order. Scottish police firmly believe that they are the law judge Dredd style and can do as they please. Bullies , liars and hypocrites.
I remember watching your video last year. Really glad this has been sorted out. Unfortunately, standing your ground when you know you’re in the right doesn’t always end positively. But I’m glad after 10 months it’s all sorted. Subbed to your channel and looking forward to new content. Fly safe big yin ✌🏻
You now just need to take them to a civil court for compensation. You were detained, arrested, assaulted and spent time in cell in the police station, all illegally. You should be receiving several thousands of pounds for their illegal behaviour. It is amazing that the Scottish police is full of criminals.
@@beepboopboopbeepbeepHe could if it can be proved that the actions taken by the police were malicious which seems to be the case here and as such criminal action can be taken against them. The difficulty is the police are likely to admit they erred, but claim that it was an honest 'procedural' mistake with no malicious intent and there's the rub. The issue is compounded by the general reluctance of Scottish solicitors to go after the police except in exceptional high profile cases. Civil proceedings would be the lower risk practical way forward, but a tad expensive. A wee crowdfunding exercise might help mitigate the costs.
Great news. I know the legal process differs in UK from here in North America, but now your Lawyer needs to initiate a Civil action against the individual officers, the police detachment and up the chain of command to training and leadership. If you expect any influence to change their behaviour, it will only come about as a result of a very large settlement. That gets their attention. And people lose their jobs.
Cabt sue individual officers here, you sue the force. Literally nothing will happen to them as individuals and any compensation will come out the pockets of the tax payer (which I'm happy to pay tax if it gets people some recompense from these pigs)
Bigger concern is that police charges in Scotland are meaningless it’s the Procurator Fiscal that ultimate does rule on what charges are to be applied. Hence, total waste of time engaging in any dialogue police constable here in Scotland. The confiscation and time scale proves the incompetence whole situation perhaps the PF waited until time has expired the charges? Glad all moving and had moved in your favour and validated your knowledge of the law.
Bottom line. Sue them. As ALL CHARGES were dropped it is a win win case. Enjoy your monetary award. Between £10 and £15 grand at a guess. That will buy a bit of juice for touring around Scotland. 👍
Maybe if police could be charged £1000 per day for wrongfully denying the owner of the enjoyment of their property could be a way of getting them to be a bit more speedy and stop them using it to be vindictive.
What is a matter with the police in the UK today. They seem keep busy doing nothing really useful to the public 😢 looking forward to watching new videos mate 👍
Make sure you get your property back and that they have not deleted or tampered with the evidence. Its wrongful arrest, they need to face up to the errors if their ways.. Get them out catching Bams instead of illegally seizing your property
The base problem is that while a recreational drone may well cause conflict of a civil variety with people on the ground the idea of regulating them with the same organisation as manned flight is Alice in Wonderland stuff. For a century the idea of controlled airspace that reached the surface caused no problem because, away from runway approach and departue paths, that effectively meant a lower limit of 500 feet but regulate a recreation remote controlled model in a back garden and the word surface can no longer be taken to mean the grass on your lawn without the state claiming control of the airspace you are entitiled to throw cricket balls or fly kites in. This error is being recognised but ignored as too difficult. The UK special is the ludicrous inclusion that assumes conspicuously obvious efforts to invade "privacy" should adulterate safety matters. To much of the world below 249g means not worth regulating or a toy. The UK requirement for an operator ID if it has a camera even if it is below 249g has made it impossible to define a toy which has become clear in the painfully comical review being conducted at present. In short, common sense says your drone should not be regulated at all but expect to wind up in court if you drop it in an occupied pram other than the CAA's. The police seldom know the law/rules at the time they spot a drone because they are a contrived mess that the authors think can be sorted out with increased detail. Alas, the effect is the opposite. The polce got it wrong but you seeking compensation for the losses they unjustly inflicted on you is justice. If they have any sense you should get an offer without going to court.
Don’t let them get away with it there are too many cases like this nowadays meanwhile they won’t even go after criminals some of them need to be taught a lesson as to they are paid to protect the public not harass them
To be not charged with a crime you didn’t commit is a hollow victory indeed. You need to be making complaints at least. Many people say complaints aren’t worthwhile because they mark their own homework, but it puts a marker on file and makes them take notice. Whether you can SUE them is another matter. They will claim that they had reasonable grounds, albeit they were wrong. It might be fun to sue them, then drop the case in ten months’ time!!!
Good and proper outcome - so far. You ABSOLUTELY must sue Police Scotland and the idiot cops personally - because, based upon what I saw, their actions were baseless in law AND were clearly motivated by malice and revenge. Go after them for all you can get.
Without knowing the in's and out's of this case... Just because the Procurator decides that it's not in the public interest to prosecute, it does not mean that nothing unlawful was being done... The cammer didn't give grounds as to why no further action is to be taken... Perhaps if he hasn't had them given, he should request those grounds...
For the people saying "sue them". I'm here in Scotland the pigs are near untouchable, you cannot sue for negligence, so if a cop arrests you because its too thick to know the law it's arresting you for you have to THEN prove BEYOND RESONABLE DOUBT that it was being malicious and not just brutally thick and incompetent. It's a sad state of affairs but they often have just enough braincells in thier robust skull (all working overtime at half rate) to know this... And the pigs will abuse the fact they can abuse your rights and just "act dumb" and you can't do jack shit about it.
Interested to see if the footage is intact, Scottish police have been known for "corrupt" video cards or even a no effort deleted or formatted memory cards
I believe that what all auditors ought to do is always live record using real time back up tools. Live streaming itself can be risky both legally and pragmatically but of course in some instances very compelling.
Since the charges were dropped that means you are innocent so your equipment was stolen not confiscated. And there was no reason to confiscate everything for evidential purposes. A photo taken by their BWV would be enough. The only thing they might have had a reason to keep and examine would be the SD card from the drone, nothing else.
Thanks for the update. I watched your video and was incensed by the way the police handled the situation. Look forward to your compensation mate. Trouble is, its public money and the police officers will continue to harass the public on issues like this.
I had 4 plain clothes officers stop my in Perth for the same "crime". They were very confrontational until I had to explain the rules and they left but not before the female officers asked to see how high and fast it could go. Every interaction with police I've had they are completely clueless and assume you are breaking the law that they have to Google.
Typical useless cops. I bet when you explained about the 249g weight thing they'll have realized that they'd fucked up, but continued with it just so they wouldn't look stupid. This is definitely worth pursuing a civil case over.
Scottish cops once again proving themselves complet knobs, must have been a more serious crime been called over the radio before they spotted you and used you to duck out of attending something that really need police attending.
For the period of time they have had this, you deserve a new drone and compensation. I don't usually agree with paying compensation but its the public money but to have held this for 10 month and give you stress and grief - you deserve to know why the delay and stress they have caused you for no good reason.
@theauditingscotsman Great news that the trumped up charges have been dropped, but you and your solicitor HAVE to pursue a civil claim now, otherwise their illegal actions and unnecessarily long confiscation of your equipment will go unpunished and they will still have won. Cute dog btw ☺
Those two officers should now also get 3 years each with no remission and all those who participated in this travesty are aiding and abetting so should also get 18 months no remission, no exceptions. Came across this by accident and you now have another subscriber. Get a decent solicitor and sue the arses out of these pricks. best of luck to you fella.
Don't be surprised if when you get your kit back your footage has magically disappeared, or memory card missing. Any way glad you're all sorted, should never have happened in the first place. With the increase in recreational drones it's about time the police were made aware of the rules around drones, it would save a lot of time hassle both for them and us.
100% sue their sorry arses , The ‘Police’ and I use that term very loosely are totally clueless and are only out to make a quick buck these days , proper policing went out of the window years ago.
There just hasn't been a case with enough traction and importance where PS were made to reconsider their approach to law. That will happen eventually because there are so many cameras in Scottish society now and so many people are aware of the law and how it must be applied. Change is inevitable and this sort of rubbish has to stop.
Chances of any data being on your phones or drones is minimal. I fully expect all devices to have been "accidentally " factory reset and all data "accidentally " wiped during the investigation for any relevant evidence. Wiped so that it is impossible to recover anything from the memory. They seized the devices in case they held relevant evidence and should have been returned immediately they realised nothing was there.
I would certainly ask your guy to get you some compensation for your losses otherwise they just don't bother. They need to know that these stupid acts actually cost them money 😊
Good on you the only thing that might happen there is interfere with radio signals from watch tower if there is one i stay in Fraserburgh as you know its a fishing port and there a bit fussy about this kind of thing i was told point blank no i don't. want you flying you will have to get a permit to fly from the caa then i can fly .bet your police never knew that one .its a legal requirement i found out .look it up found out all this when i passed my A2cofc and my GVC
Police Scotland behaving like the MET police….DISGUSTING!… These police officers should be investigated & charged for vindictive behaviour or whatever laws that apply in this case like this!
just getting your stuff back & dropping the charges is just not good enough. another solicitor would have wiped the floor with them & got you a lot of compensation. don't stop here.
The Police seem to think that you should be happy that charges were dropped (when they actually mean that charges should never have been brought in the first place). How it takes 10 months to come to that conclusion can only be explained by the fact that they are trying to punish you, outside the justice system, by depriving you of their property. Sue, complain and make sure you ensure the copper(s) have some consequence for their illegal actions.
@@SensibleCentrist on the surface, you're right, but upheld complaints stay on the Constables file and can add up when further cases are brought or in future disciplinary action (and let's face it, these wrong 'uns will get themselves in bother again as they can't help themselves) also when they apply for promotion or specialist roles, complaints against them can influence success. Complain AND sue is the right way, and don't settle out of court as that lets them off to hook out of sight of the public.
The arrest and charge weren't particularly their greatest moment but the lengthy confiscation is disgraceful.
Poor snowflake.
It's because police in Scotland don't care about being wrong, or consequence of those actions on members of the public. because "they" don't have to face any consequence if they mess up.
Can you claim for New battery required (safety) as it's not been correctly stored. Also what about other costs... how does it all work if all charges are dropped, but you had to hire a legal representative?
Ex cop here. Sue them for false arrest. In England ( don’t know about Scotland) the unofficial going rate is two grand for every wrongful hour you spend in custody. Plus your lawyer fees and something on top for the inconvenience.
You should be compensated for the major inconvenience caused by the confiscations.
WHile idiot frauditors waste people's time every day.
Glad to hear, hopefully you’re able to take civil action against Police Scotland
Good luck with that, the pigs here are near untouchable as them being negligent is unbelievably not something you can sue the pigs for.
You need to prove they acted maliciously, which is near impossible.
@@just-gaming213 That's why a Bill of Rights with the backing of a Constitution with overwhelming authority over every law and unique to Scotland is an essential. Watch as that suggestion falls on the deaf ears and dumb mouths of those crooks in the SNP government.
Brilliant.
And now it is your turn.
1. Formal complaints for false arrest
2. Sue for false arrest, vindictive prosecution and the lengthy holding of your equipment.
3. Name and shame all those involved from the arresting officers, the desk Sgt and the charging officer.
Take civil action. They need to keep learning from their mistakes.
Frauditors are the mistakes. Whiny time wasting goons.
@@nathansmith7153OK officer bootlicker.
Hahaha Cheers for the amusing comment little piggy.
Looks like some feerty is getting nervous
@@nathansmith7153Have YOU always been a tosser, or is it something that's taken many years of training to do? 💩💩
Don't call it confiscation. They illegally seized your property which at the time is theft and is until it is actually returned. If they've been looking at anything on your phone or drone its also invasion of privacy to add to the compensation claim.
For the sake of others please go for compensation they need to be held to account and exposed
Go after those officers through the civil courts. A uniform does not allow vindictive behavior, sue them for every penny.
How come... If ignorance of the law isn't an excuse for ordinary citizens, how come it can be an excuse for law enforcement?
Thanks for the update, and I’m amazed the police even progressed this non crime, and i hope you get a decent settlement from the police for the hassle they have unnecessarily put you through. We enjoyed watching your lovely doggy in the video😀.
Good news on the case being dropped. It's understandable that not all cops know all the laws regarding all types of drones, its unacceptable for them to just ignore that there is a difference. If they were unsure they could have checked with their own drone team. 🤔
It should have been picked up when being admitted into custody. It should have been picked up before the charges were authorised. So many blatant errors here!
Don't they each carry a smartphone? Checking the law using the Internet would be too easy. Everyone a hero in the making.
You MUST sue them. They violated your Rights. As for being 'delighted' to have the charges dropped, I'd be furious to be charged in the first place. GO GET EM.
Sue the force and the individual officers.
The police incompetence in failure to thoroughly investigate and unlawfully confiscate your property gives you grounds to sue them and complain about misconduct. I encourage you to see that through to teach these idiots a lesson in law and to prevent another unlawful arrest.
Get them sued, after all this time they would be paying for a decent holiday, Auditing Britain is doing it on a regular basis and they need to learn
Different legal jurisdictions. Scotland has its own legal system that differs from the laws of England and Wales. It's extremely difficult to sue the police in Scotland.
@@duncanmacleod7283 THAT SUCKS , need to move south of the border they are just as bad down here
Sue the hell out of them this is so dangerous two police not knowing the law .come to think about it doesn’t seem none in that police station knows it neither.very dangerous for the citizens of Scotland 😢😢
Really sorry for what you’ve been through. I have a mini 4 Pro so in effect, you’ve gone through this on my behalf too. Well done, my friend!! Thank you.
In England they keep property, refuse to give it back, itthen ends up being taken home by officers as lost property.
Theft!
Fortunately in England we can make an Application to the Magistrates Court under The Police Property Act to force the return of property.
Sue Police Scotland for all you can, you can't let them get away with the officers involved were entirely in the wrong.
They wanted your details and are prepared to get it by hook or by crook. Remember they're cops so legal doesn't matter.
@tonto2455 But Lawful Does , Cops operate under Commercial Acts & Statutes of Parliament but They swear an Oath to Uphold the Law Under Common Law that the Monarch Swears to Uphold @ Their Coronation. They're there to Protect & Serve the Sovereign People under Common Law,, Do No ONE No Harm,, Cause No ONE No Loss ,, No Crimes Committed ps. House of Commons Library Police Powers an Introduction 21 Oct 2021 The Core Duty of the " Police Service " is To Protect The Public by Detecting & Preventing Crime, This Duty is Established in Common Law...
The police action is pure vindictiveness!
Gestapo Scotland! Hope your going to take them to court.
The Civil action for false arrest & compensation for loss of income is essential , otherwise they have Won. They have stopped you filming for 9-10 months, that was the sole purpose of this illegal arrest
True.
Thanks for the update. If you don't take them to court over this then they won't get the message that they can't just make up their own laws on a whim. If your income stream entirely rested on the drone footage (as many RUclipsrs are) then you should be compensated for nearly a year's worth of income! Best of luck mate. I hope you get some justice.
Yes sue for wrongful arrest and get compensation for loss of equipment or at the least report to commissioner?
Sue them for the inconvenience and insinuating fictitious charges...
I recall watching a video posted by a London ULEZ protester who had his recording equipment and phone confiscated, when it was returned the SD card had been wiped.
Get them sued. So many mistakes and opportunities to spot them and still they fooked up. As a drone flyer myself this really boils my piss.
Sue them for every penny you can. The way they have treated you and your equipment was disgracefully out of order. Scottish police firmly believe that they are the law judge Dredd style and can do as they please. Bullies , liars and hypocrites.
I remember watching your video last year. Really glad this has been sorted out. Unfortunately, standing your ground when you know you’re in the right doesn’t always end positively. But I’m glad after 10 months it’s all sorted.
Subbed to your channel and looking forward to new content.
Fly safe big yin ✌🏻
Sue them for wrongful arrest and the lack of use.. Police Scotland seem to be getting a lot wrong recently.
You now just need to take them to a civil court for compensation. You were detained, arrested, assaulted and spent time in cell in the police station, all illegally. You should be receiving several thousands of pounds for their illegal behaviour. It is amazing that the Scottish police is full of criminals.
Hope you’re going to follow up by suing them 🤷🏻♂️
Can he in Scotland?
@@beepboopboopbeepbeepHe could if it can be proved that the actions taken by the police were malicious which seems to be the case here and as such criminal action can be taken against them. The difficulty is the police are likely to admit they erred, but claim that it was an honest 'procedural' mistake with no malicious intent and there's the rub. The issue is compounded by the general reluctance of Scottish solicitors to go after the police except in exceptional high profile cases. Civil proceedings would be the lower risk practical way forward, but a tad expensive. A wee crowdfunding exercise might help mitigate the costs.
Thank you for the update.
Great to hear you are back. Please sue these cops for abuse of their powers. I look forward to seeing the footage
Thanks for this video - good luck getting your equipment back. I have no doubt all video evidence will have been 'misplaced'......
Next step has to be civil action. Get paid.
New sub. So many people in scotland been arrested in scotland for doing legal activities. The police need suing
So many good auditors fall foul of the system in Scotland, nice to see you get through it, stronger and wiser! Get in!
So in this instance where they drop the case against you, who pays for your solicitor and other out of pocket expenses?
You do unless you qualify for legal aid.
Great news. I know the legal process differs in UK from here in North America, but now your Lawyer needs to initiate a Civil action against the individual officers, the police detachment and up the chain of command to training and leadership. If you expect any influence to change their behaviour, it will only come about as a result of a very large settlement. That gets their attention. And people lose their jobs.
Cabt sue individual officers here, you sue the force.
Literally nothing will happen to them as individuals and any compensation will come out the pockets of the tax payer (which I'm happy to pay tax if it gets people some recompense from these pigs)
Bigger concern is that police charges in Scotland are meaningless it’s the Procurator Fiscal that ultimate does rule on what charges are to be applied. Hence, total waste of time engaging in any dialogue police constable here in Scotland. The confiscation and time scale proves the incompetence whole situation perhaps the PF waited until time has expired the charges? Glad all moving and had moved in your favour and validated your knowledge of the law.
Bottom line. Sue them. As ALL CHARGES were dropped it is a win win case. Enjoy your monetary award. Between £10 and £15 grand at a guess. That will buy a bit of juice for touring around Scotland. 👍
Please sue them. If you fail to do so then what will be the point of public photography at any time in the future? PLEASE SUE THEM!
Maybe if police could be charged £1000 per day for wrongfully denying the owner of the enjoyment of their property could be a way of getting them to be a bit more speedy and stop them using it to be vindictive.
What is a matter with the police in the UK today. They seem keep busy doing nothing really useful to the public 😢 looking forward to watching new videos mate 👍
Make sure you get your property back and that they have not deleted or tampered with the evidence. Its wrongful arrest, they need to face up to the errors if their ways.. Get them out catching Bams instead of illegally seizing your property
Those long dog leads are more risky to pedestrians and cyclists than flying a drone is !
The base problem is that while a recreational drone may well cause conflict of a civil variety with people on the ground the idea of regulating them with the same organisation as manned flight is Alice in Wonderland stuff. For a century the idea of controlled airspace that reached the surface caused no problem because, away from runway approach and departue paths, that effectively meant a lower limit of 500 feet but regulate a recreation remote controlled model in a back garden and the word surface can no longer be taken to mean the grass on your lawn without the state claiming control of the airspace you are entitiled to throw cricket balls or fly kites in. This error is being recognised but ignored as too difficult. The UK special is the ludicrous inclusion that assumes conspicuously obvious efforts to invade "privacy" should adulterate safety matters. To much of the world below 249g means not worth regulating or a toy. The UK requirement for an operator ID if it has a camera even if it is below 249g has made it impossible to define a toy which has become clear in the painfully comical review being conducted at present.
In short, common sense says your drone should not be regulated at all but expect to wind up in court if you drop it in an occupied pram other than the CAA's. The police seldom know the law/rules at the time they spot a drone because they are a contrived mess that the authors think can be sorted out with increased detail. Alas, the effect is the opposite. The polce got it wrong but you seeking compensation for the losses they unjustly inflicted on you is justice. If they have any sense you should get an offer without going to court.
Don't feel so self satisfied about dismissal,, do feel angry about the criminal injustice of it all and sue. If you don't, take up knitting
Don’t let them get away with it there are too many cases like this nowadays meanwhile they won’t even go after criminals some of them need to be taught a lesson as to they are paid to protect the public not harass them
Wouldn’t it be amazing if the Police did some actual real police work for change.
To be not charged with a crime you didn’t commit is a hollow victory indeed.
You need to be making complaints at least. Many people say complaints aren’t worthwhile because they mark their own homework, but it puts a marker on file and makes them take notice.
Whether you can SUE them is another matter. They will claim that they had reasonable grounds, albeit they were wrong.
It might be fun to sue them, then drop the case in ten months’ time!!!
Grate news 👏🏴
So they confiscated your phone with your evidence , they would have had no chance in court .
Good and proper outcome - so far. You ABSOLUTELY must sue Police Scotland and the idiot cops personally - because, based upon what I saw, their actions were baseless in law AND were clearly motivated by malice and revenge. Go after them for all you can get.
Without knowing the in's and out's of this case... Just because the Procurator decides that it's not in the public interest to prosecute, it does not mean that nothing unlawful was being done...
The cammer didn't give grounds as to why no further action is to be taken...
Perhaps if he hasn't had them given, he should request those grounds...
For the people saying "sue them".
I'm here in Scotland the pigs are near untouchable, you cannot sue for negligence, so if a cop arrests you because its too thick to know the law it's arresting you for you have to THEN prove BEYOND RESONABLE DOUBT that it was being malicious and not just brutally thick and incompetent.
It's a sad state of affairs but they often have just enough braincells in thier robust skull (all working overtime at half rate) to know this... And the pigs will abuse the fact they can abuse your rights and just "act dumb" and you can't do jack shit about it.
Isn't it about time that these clownish police forces were sent a memo regarding 249g drones ? Sue the bastards.
Great news. Can you sue them. At very least put in complaint against tyranny.
Interested to see if the footage is intact, Scottish police have been known for "corrupt" video cards or even a no effort deleted or formatted memory cards
Oh nothing surer than the 2 phones will have been microwaved. 🤷🏼♂️
I believe that what all auditors ought to do is always live record using real time back up tools. Live streaming itself can be risky both legally and pragmatically but of course in some instances very compelling.
Live stream but make it a Silent Audit to reduce culpability.
Since the charges were dropped that means you are innocent so your equipment was stolen not confiscated. And there was no reason to confiscate everything for evidential purposes. A photo taken by their BWV would be enough. The only thing they might have had a reason to keep and examine would be the SD card from the drone, nothing else.
Thanks for the update. I watched your video and was incensed by the way the police handled the situation. Look forward to your compensation mate. Trouble is, its public money and the police officers will continue to harass the public on issues like this.
I had 4 plain clothes officers stop my in Perth for the same "crime". They were very confrontational until I had to explain the rules and they left but not before the female officers asked to see how high and fast it could go. Every interaction with police I've had they are completely clueless and assume you are breaking the law that they have to Google.
DEMAND your gear back and tell them when you are coming to collect it. They have nowhere to go with this.
Good news pal..Cammy wait too see the video footage,.Staysafe out there pal ☘️❤️👍🏻
Sue them in civil court
Typical useless cops.
I bet when you explained about the 249g weight thing they'll have realized that they'd fucked up, but continued with it just so they wouldn't look stupid.
This is definitely worth pursuing a civil case over.
Sue and report them. It's a gross display of officiousness from the coppers.
Welcome back dude 👏👏👍👍👍👍
Scottish cops once again proving themselves complet knobs, must have been a more serious crime been called over the radio before they spotted you and used you to duck out of attending something that really need police attending.
For the period of time they have had this, you deserve a new drone and compensation. I don't usually agree with paying compensation but its the public money but to have held this for 10 month and give you stress and grief - you deserve to know why the delay and stress they have caused you for no good reason.
The lengthy confiscation is criminal. Why is it the ignorance of the law is never the police and entitled peoples fault.
Can't wait to see more content from you
You have to sue from wrongful detainment, wrongful arrest and lose of earnings
Bodycams coming this year Police Scotland are fooked
@theauditingscotsman
Great news that the trumped up charges have been dropped, but you and your solicitor HAVE to pursue a civil claim now, otherwise their illegal actions and unnecessarily long confiscation of your equipment will go unpunished and they will still have won. Cute dog btw ☺
Unlawful=compensation
Those two officers should now also get 3 years each with no remission and all those who participated in this travesty are aiding and abetting so should also get 18 months no remission, no exceptions. Came across this by accident and you now have another subscriber. Get a decent solicitor and sue the arses out of these pricks. best of luck to you fella.
Don’t forget to sue the police, they must learn that they can’t treat people this way, good luck 🤞.
Don't be surprised if when you get your kit back your footage has magically disappeared, or memory card missing. Any way glad you're all sorted, should never have happened in the first place. With the increase in recreational drones it's about time the police were made aware of the rules around drones, it would save a lot of time hassle both for them and us.
Make sure you do them for false arrest
Good news but I hope to will lodge a complaint and claim compensation; I think there are clear grounds.
Check all of your batteries, if the police have not maintained them properly make a claim for replacements.
Scot Squad have NO idea
no win no fee comes to mind.
100% sue their sorry arses , The ‘Police’ and I use that term very loosely are totally clueless and are only out to make a quick buck these days , proper policing went out of the window years ago.
Very happy for you!
Made up charges. There needs to be a formal complaint! Glad it was all dropped - should never have taken your equipment in the first place.
There just hasn't been a case with enough traction and importance where PS were made to reconsider their approach to law. That will happen eventually because there are so many cameras in Scottish society now and so many people are aware of the law and how it must be applied. Change is inevitable and this sort of rubbish has to stop.
Chances of any data being on your phones or drones is minimal.
I fully expect all devices to have been "accidentally " factory reset and all data "accidentally " wiped during the investigation for any relevant evidence.
Wiped so that it is impossible to recover anything from the memory.
They seized the devices in case they held relevant evidence and should have been returned immediately they realised nothing was there.
How has this taken 10 months +????......surely it should of been chucked out within an hour of arrest???
I would certainly ask your guy to get you some compensation for your losses otherwise they just don't bother. They need to know that these stupid acts actually cost them money 😊
Good on you the only thing that might happen there is interfere with radio signals from watch tower if there is one i stay in Fraserburgh as you know its a fishing port and there a bit fussy about this kind of thing i was told point blank no i don't. want you flying you will have to get a permit to fly from the caa then i can fly .bet your police never knew that one .its a legal requirement i found out .look it up found out all this when i passed my A2cofc and my GVC
Police Scotland behaving like the MET police….DISGUSTING!… These police officers should be investigated & charged for vindictive behaviour or whatever laws that apply in this case like this!
Important new police training coming soon. How to use Google 🤔
Congratulations on the result. I only hope that the Police haven't "accidentally" deleted your footage. I would not be surprised if they did.
just getting your stuff back & dropping the charges is just not good enough. another solicitor would have wiped the floor with them & got you a lot of compensation. don't stop here.
Is it possible to use them personally in civil court?
The Police seem to think that you should be happy that charges were dropped (when they actually mean that charges should never have been brought in the first place). How it takes 10 months to come to that conclusion can only be explained by the fact that they are trying to punish you, outside the justice system, by depriving you of their property. Sue, complain and make sure you ensure the copper(s) have some consequence for their illegal actions.
@@SensibleCentrist on the surface, you're right, but upheld complaints stay on the Constables file and can add up when further cases are brought or in future disciplinary action (and let's face it, these wrong 'uns will get themselves in bother again as they can't help themselves) also when they apply for promotion or specialist roles, complaints against them can influence success. Complain AND sue is the right way, and don't settle out of court as that lets them off to hook out of sight of the public.