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@@allytg1 Does GN also take the cherry-picked one for comparison? Ive seen them buy theirs out of pocket but havent really seen a side-by-side or reviewer vs standard.
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As a former PC builder for a large company, the reset switch is used because novice users find it more intuitive than needing software which is often buggy and can run into compatability issues.
That makes a ton of sense. My custom system from Cyberpower (bought during the pandemic when you couldn't buy a gpu at a remotely decent price but could get a SI build that was cheaper) and they wired my rgb through the front button on a Lian Li O11 Dynamic XL. So seems like common practice. I will say that they installed my fans improperly, exhaust on the bottom and side (obviously including the top Aio) and the only intake was the rear 120mm fan.
Yea I found that to be pretty obvious, that this is a lower end build probably intended for rather novice pc users, and one of the main things they'd want is to have easy control over the main lighting -and intuitively they'd think it would be accessible via a switch/button on the case itself, rather than in some specialized control software that may or may not be pre installed for them. RGB control in general is still one of the main sore spots of the entire PC industry that I can not fathom hasn't been standardized yet with easy control options. Like, literally every tiny component can be bought with RGB these days, but nobody is invested in making the controls for anything and everything RGB be easy.
I've used their products for years so it is actually nice that overall they did good here. It makes you happy to back a company that isn't complete crap.
Yes I'm a fan of Cooler Master, pretty much every product I've purchased from them worked as expected and well. I like their case designs, and my dream case is the CM Haf 700 Evo it's simply beautiful yet still has amazing airflow
@@emilyshabang I've been running a storm Stryker for like 10 years at this point (god i really need to upgrade😅) and it's been a really nice case all that time.
@@Haskellerz And important settings arent turned on like resizeable bar. I think this was a catastrophy even if they show it was a "win" for coolermaster.
the only thing which is complete crap is the keyboard kit, I remember getting the Devastator 2 almost a decade ago for 20$, mouse was real bad but the keyboard was decent for the price (at the time). 5y later I had to get a cheap keyboard and mouse for my gf, so I went straight for the same kit, was discontinued and replaced by the devastator 3 and it was 35$, my ingenuity brought me to think that it was just a newer and improved kit, so I got one.... It was a complete pile of steaming s***, it was so bad that I actually sent it back thinking that it was defective or something, needles to say I got back the same crap, somehow the typing experience was worst than all e-waste keyboards I had tried at the time
Honestly, this looks like the best prebuild I have seen in that priceclass, beside the not posting issue. The value is fantastic I must say. I would never buy one but then I build computers for my friends and family (and once owned a small computer store) so I'm not their customer.
It's one of the rare prebuilts that actually has good airflow and amazingly enough it's priced mostly as if you bought the components yourself. It's truthfully very impressive. The ram was disappointing but I think that was mostly a one off issue as anyone can get a stick of ram like that. I personally can't fault them much about the bios bc it was likely built, boxed, and distributed prior to those updates...as well as there's no way they could unbox every system whenever a bios or GPU update is sent out. The reset button being the rgb controller is fairly common with a lot of cases....when you build in them the instructions tell you this and let you know that you can allow the mb to control it. Like Linus said tho at least you don't have bloatware, and you are given the option to install rgb software if you decide to.
Normally I build my brother's computers, but he really wanted a new one in early 2022 and I just couldn't be bothered to hunt down parts for him at a price I was willing to let him pay at the time so he ordered one from Origin that was similar to ones that were in LTT videos. $3K and they didn't screw in the power supply, it was just floating in there. 🙄
10:49 I actually put together a bunch of PCs like this using CM parts for kids under the age of 10; the reset function was unlikely to be used often and the simple button press to change RBG styles made sense for them. I figured when they're old enough to be interested in taking the thing apart, they'll figure out software control for themselves as well.
@@t0biascze644 If your Windows is freezing once a month, there is something seriously wrong with your system. I haven't had Windows freeze since XP, probably.
10:10 It's not just a Cooler Master thing, I bought a SilverStone case and it came with the Reset switch plugged into the RGB controller too. I also switched the cables to make it actually reset the PC and RGB be controlled by the motherboard.
If I have to build a workstation machine (or get to recommend something) its always a HAF case. The chonky fans just fix a good amount of problems or complaints people might have, especially once it gets dusty. I have to say, I would totally recommend this prebuilt to my friends, I don‘t mind troubleshooting it once when it arrives as long as the price is fine and it is unlikely to have problems moving forward.
This is marvelous! I really am impressed with what they're doing. The system looks great and contains no proprietary parts that I saw which means upgrading will be no problem. There is hardly a markup on the components, I have no idea how that is sustainable. The lack of bloatware is admirable and leads to a cleaner, smoother, and more efficient experience. The RGB thing was a bit unusual but not without its advantages. This level of quality should be standard in the industry. Cooler Master has set the bar high indeed by provided a reasonably priced, aesthetically pleasing, uniform, and customer oriented product. I don't know if they're only trying extra hard because they're new to this and will slack off later once they've built a solid reputation but this as it is now is how all system integrators should be. Bravo.
They make some of the components (e.g. power supply) so they only have to pay the manufacturing and materials cost of those parts. They probably get a bulk discount on the parts that they don't make. This is why it's probably very sustainable for them. Also, as they make off the shelf components, it's probably going to encourage people to buy THEIR components when/if they upgrade due to some degree of brand loyalty. Making proprietary systems probably is more effort than it's worth for Cooler Master.
I bought one of these on Best Buy. When I inspected the case it was filled with fans, but they were all set take air IN to the case, but there was no where for the air to go! I had to then go and swap everything around to have air being pulled in from the front and side and vented out from the back and top. My temps for the CPU went from 80C with just 20 minutes of gaming to 50C with 2 hours of gaming. Not sure how that passed inspection!
@@OmniUni I would understand if there was a spot for the air to vent, but all possible venting locations were blocked by fans bringing air in. And yes, I did mean it that way, sorry about that.
@@forgotten893 The old wisdom was that air would still escape out of gaps and the higher static pressure would allow better cooling. It's actually how I was taught in school back in the Pentium 4 days. (I don't do it like that anymore, I usually have one fan on the back I blow air out, I'm just saying this was, at one point, the recommended configuration.)
The reason why the reset switch was used to control the RGB was most likely because the Asus Armory Crate software doesnt work very well in the sysprep environment on the factory floor, so to combat that the reset switch was used. An alternative solution would be to drop a shortcut in the Default\Desktop folder whilst in the sysprep environment so that it would show up for the end user to install. Kinda tedious but works well.
I'm surprised you never came across the reset button as an RGB controller, it's very common and some case makers (AeroCool comes to mind) have it as the default in their instructions in cases that include RGB fans. Far easier to set up and better than using proprietary bloatware if you ask me.
It shows how little experience the guys at LTT have with budget cases, where that practice has been extremely common for many years. My Thermaltake Versa J24 ARGB that I've had since 2019, for example, was set up that way.
Honestly, repurposing the reset button on the case to be your RGB control is actually a really cool idea. Maybe I am strange, but I don't find much value in that button and a quick, easy, program free RGB changer is a neat idea for it.
I’d definitely prefer a physical button for it over software. I actually forgot about reset buttons because the case I’ve been using for 6 years doesn’t even have one lol.
@@FastSloth87 That's what I was thinking whenever it was something technical I always just held the power button until everything shut off. I mostly used restart as a rage quit button when extreme rage hit rather than alt-F4, I'd just slam the button restarting the entire system lmao.
As plenty of people have already said, the reset switch to control the RGB is quite common practice. Yes, you sometimes need to hard reset your PC, but pressing the power button for a few seconds to turn it off and then turn it on again, works just fine.
I actually built a very similar system myself ... not in the HAF 500 but in the CoolerMaster Master Case 5 Pro which is the direct predecessor to the HAF 500.
I see a lot of people liking that the RGB is on the reset switch and you know what... I agree. I DO think they should put some sort of guide in with the system that explains that and how to connect it to the motherboard for "advanced use". I had a windows update that broke my RGB for months and I tried several ways of fixing it including trying some opensource software that I couldn't make work. ALL I WANTED was a solid color pattern, super simple, and I am kind of annoyed that I can't just set RGB values directly in the BIOS as an override and not have any software control at all. Eventually another windows update did fix this problem but I spent months with a puke rainbow pattern going on because I had no other choice and wasn't going to OS reinstall over that. Also if I were dual booting (which I sometimes do), having it hardware controlled would be nice. I have to think that for 90% of users the reset switch and hardware control is a better solution. "Keep it simple, stupid"
After one too many accidental resets, I have stopped connecting the rest switch in any of my builds, even builds for family and friends. Plenty of pre-builts (particularly non-gaming ones) don't even have a reset switch, so you're not missing much. I would consider it a plus that Cooler Master didn't connect it here.
@@ArgedisFr im about to do it to mine, the fans i have only connect to their controller and that controller doesnt connect to the Mobo. so i just have a random button sitting in the case to control fan colors.
I can't believe anyone can live without the Reset Button. They can't say they have NEVER had a Software/Hardware Lock-up at any point in time,on ANY Compy ! Has NEVER Happened ! Windows isn't that Perfect ! Especially if you did something in a jamb,or a Power surge ! And that can surely do it,without proper protection. I don't know how many times i've had to reach for that,AND YES,sometimes that doesn't always work as you should know. There is nothing that infuriates me more,is Proprietary HORSE$#!T vendors Omitting the Reset PIN on the Motherboard !
Just ordered - they are $849 no tax in TX now, and they upgraded to a 4060 ti. Threw in 64g of ddr4 for about a hundy since I will be doing video editing (I know overkill, but I keep my desktops for several years). Excited to play BG3 with my kids...
That reset pin should be on the RGB controller because by holding that you can switch from the motherboard control to its own controlled preset and vice versa.
The "that's bad, that's good, that's bad" section you introduced back in that video with Plouffe is awesome. I love it. It's funny, entertaining but more so informative as well.
my new rig came two days ago. wasnt a cooler master but had some nice features too: -A 3cm long screw from a fan -An awesome error screen saying that windows wasnt installed properly -A CPU that was between 50-60c when IDLEing and constant 100c when gaming -A free plastic sticker on the cold plate xD
I've never known anyone who ever used the reset button intentionally. It makes way more sense to make it rgb control and I've seen that setup mentioned in several cheap rgb controller manuals.
I like what cooler master have done here, and I particularly like the 2x200mm fan configuration on the front. I think more cases should go with 200mm fans.
This was so relatable when I first got my pc case I was building it then I noticed the rgb is connected to the reset switch area which tells me there is some sort of new trend here
For those who don't know, Csgo only goes up to 300fps if you start it up as normal. You have to type in the console fps_max and then the maximum you want to hit, lets say like 500. And if you're Machine is capable enought it should hit now around that number. Just if you where curious how they get all those high numbers.
One good thing about tying the controlling the RGB into the reset switch is that you can troll someone with it. Well in all seriousness Cooler master did an amazing job with the system overall yeah there are some minor things that they need to do but it is not bad at all. I have seen worse from the prebuilts that Steve from GamersNexus reviewed.
Recently built a PC with an Antec case..... It didn't even have a reset button on top, but it did have an LED button...... Cooler master can just relabel the button, and problem solved!
Yes MUCH WORSE. I actually think Steve would give this system a pretty decent review esp considering the price. The ram was the only egregious issue and that could be a fluke problem....and could happen to anyone that buys a set of ram
I know it isn't practical for my generation's attention time, but I miss the LTT intro. In my own opinion it was the best intro on youtube. May it rest in peace.
Funny you should say that.... I bought a CM H500 to replace my HAF 912. The 200 mm fans on the front must be great for slow, quiet but plentiful airflow right? Well.... One problem. The holes in the metal plate at the front are only sized approximately for 140 mm fans. So the 200 mm fans just aren't operating at peak efficiency like advertised. Also one time my auto correct changed Cooler Master to Cooker Master.... Omg I broke out laughing.
I actually prefer hard pressing the power button for 5+ seconds instead of the reset switch. It actually is kinda cool changing the rgb with the reset switch instead of having bloatware. All of this assuming I didn't misunderstand the situation, lol... glhf fam and as always thank you for your hard work and dedication!!!
It would be cool to see you try NZXT’s prebuilt series, I recently got one from NZXT, granted I selected the parts and wasn’t apart of their pre-built line up, but would still be interested to see how they fare performance and price wise
While Amazon is great, I can say Cooler Master (especially as a Canadian) has the worst RMA service I have ever experienced from a company (note their BBB F rating). I got a DOA AIO from them in 2015, took almost a year back and forth to get it sorted, several months for processing and shipping each time. The first replacement I got was an upgraded SKU because they didn't have the one I returned, great but they sent the screws for the other sku. So I had to send the whole thing back and forth again before it finally got dealt with.
I don't really like the reset button personally. If it's disconnected, you have to long press the power button, and that's hard to do accidentally. Plus if things are wedged badly enough to need a hard reset, I'd rather power everything totally off, and let the BIOS and other firmwares initialise from cold. It's too easy for weird stuff to happen with peripherals or add-in cards if you just press the reset button IMHO (but maybe I just have add-in cards that are too interesting).
Yeah, the fact any desktop cases still have a "reset" button seems like a weird legacy of early PCs. It doesn't really make sense with modern computers and operating systems. You rarely should ever use it, and can just hold the power button if you need to.
Another option if feasible after upfront and maintenance costs factored in is a chiller system. A chiller system and air handlers come in different sizes. Can cool in building or whole stadiums
Yeah I wish they would have been harder on them about that. Faulty ram, faulty display port without a bios change, and bar not enabled? Sure, for us tech heads we can fix that. But for the public? It would have been an ABYSMAL experience to have a DOA system. Because that's what it was, DOA. It wouldn't turn on with the ram installed by default.
@@AndyMitchellUK26 agreed, that's almost shocking, didn't know Amazon did that sort of thing these days, and that's better than nothing, but I honestly feel like short of some unpredictable shipping damage, I'd expect the system to boot first try.
This is why I love LTT and have been a fan the last 6 years or so. The dedication to transparency and thoroughness is entertaining, refreshing, and sadly, very novel in the tech community it seems. Thankfully here’s atleast one RUclips I can trust to try to put out genuine, honest, and in good faith information.
reset switches are pretty much a legacy option now, as it mostly benefits only one thing: spinning plater harddrives. hard shutdown then powering back on would cause the platter to slow down then ramp back up, increasing wear, so restarting would allow it just stay turned on, mitigating this additional wear. now, with most people going SSD/NVME only, it doesn't matter, except you have to hold the power button down for 5 seconds (an arguement can be made for watercooling pumps and fans, but pumps are generally magnetically driven, and fans don't spin anywhere near as fast or are as heavy as a HDD anyway, so the wear is a lot less extreme on an inertia stand-point)
Idea for the future. You should try contacting support on some of the issues you had (That aren't very obvious) just to see how the brand's support would act.
Cooler master has probably become my favourite brand for most peripherals and fans now. Their mobius fans perform within a few degrees of noctua, phanteks, and lian li and are like half the price. They make a very good product for the money in my opinion.
Regarding rgb controller being controlled by a reset button, I think they should've went the deepcool way where there is a physical separate button for rgb for onboard rgb controller. I use my mobo's port anyway, but it's nice to have this good option. Although, the UX problem is that reset button is in a different style from the power button and in the same style as rgb button, so unless you read the label you can mistake it. The model I have and talkign about is Matrexx 55 btw.
Honestly im still not 100% convinced amd & Intel don't send out highly binned samples of their cpus to reviewers. I mean they bin them all during production anyway, so it'd be super easy
Imagine having your wife run your company's HR so you can keep any and all problems hush hush but have an entire channel dedicated to judging other company's ways of handling internal and external problems? Gotta love it!
As someone who's getting into pcs, but afraid to build one myself, I'd love to see you make a video doing a tier list/ranking/discussion on the best prebuilt pc companies
I buy hardware, not brand names! If some off the wall Chinese company popped up right now today and called themselves 'Pink Poop', would I buy from them? Damn right I would if they had the best hardware for the least coin! If you offer a 13th gen i9 with 64 gigs, 1Tb, a 790 chipset and a 4080 all for the low low price of $2k..... Damn right I'mma take that chance even if the case glows pink with an RGB turd for a logo! I mean, what good is card fraud protection if not to protect? Cheers 🍻
I used to build PC's for a company and that screw is one of those things that just shouldn't happen. When I built a computer the last step before packaging the computer was to shake it and listen for anything rattling around. Then lift it over my head, turn it upside down and shake it again. Any thing rattling was reason to open it up and check what was going on, then test that it still runs, close it up and shake it again... Thing is if turning it upside down and shaking it violently by hand would unseat cards or cables then it wouldn't survive being shiped to the customer anyway. When building a larger series of computers I also started with making a master, taking care with cable routing and all that. Then that stayed available for everyone to look at if they wondered how to route a certain cable. In some cases I made a cable jigg for pre-folding cables so you only had to throw them in without having to think about the routing. But this was mostly back when IDE and P-ATA was standard for HDD's and optical drives. Having said that mistakes still happens. You can only do your best to eliminate the risks, but no one can always crank out perfect machines.
This is 9000 IQ Video on buying a 2nd PC without them knowing it. I love their cases in the past. This PC looks like a good deal if the unite don't blow up in shipping.
I'm not a computer expert or even 'advanced user' or anything like that, but love this channel and it makes sense. Kind of like a guitar- better results (usually) by getting individual parts that you want and building yourself, vs a pre-compiled, mass produced thing. Every 'mass produced' guitar I've bought, I had to do a bit of work on to make 'proper for me'
Cooler Master has been doing it for ages. My very first Gaming PC with an I5 4950 and a GTX 650 was from them. So they've been doing it for at least ten years!
Something i want to mention: heads up to linus for being selfironic and a great person to be able to have the desktop background they used. Mamy people would not have enough humor to allow that or would be hurt by that. It takes a lot to stand above something like that and laugh about it. Speaks lengths about linus as a person and his character
A Bung is a cork with a hole in it used for making booze. The hole "bung hole" is ised for a tube that bubbles to let out gasses when they build up, So you dont have to watch it when its fermenting.
I actually liked the idea of using the reset switch to control the RGB controller, but if you can control through software, it is better. I dont get the point of the reset button, you can just press the power button for 5 seconds to get essentially the same result.
can you guys do another game studio tour again? Its been 5 years since the last one and I would like to see how they are now and what kind of spec are expected to be running to make a game for each person. Also maybe adding parts like the kind of headset, testing area tech, what not to get and what to get for a game developer and so on (I'm trying to become a game developer and would love to learn more about this area if you guys could help me with that).
I have a theory, The black zip ties on the business' end of the computer are the small zip ties that some times come with PSU's and in my latest build, The motherboard came with a few. And the natural plastic ones are their inhouse ones for the party end of the computer.
The most helpful LTT video ever was the one where Luke tested how bad cable management distrubs airflow and cooling. The answer was "not at all". Which is such a perfect excuse for the mess in mine.... Of course it helps that there is no glas window or RGB, due to the fact that it is BS.
Thx for mentioning Resize BAR. Just got stuff taken care of on my end with my new build; RTX 4070 & 13600K on a Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX DDR4 mobo! :) Stuff like this is definitely not easily found/understood by the masses --- well it should be.
I recently purchased a variant of that TeamGroup RGB RAM and I'm VERY impressed. I got the DDR4 32GB 4000mhz kit for $85 to upgrade my aging z370 system and unsurprisingly it didn't like the XMP profile. However I was able to downclock it to 3600mhz and got the CL to 16 rock solid stable. 3600mhz CL16 for $85! For reference the Corsair 3600mhz CL16 kit is over $100. The RGB on the TeamGroup RAM is very nice looking as well. Sucks that they had trouble with that 1 stick they received.
Finally graphs are getting better but change the horizontal way you show them even tho it fills the screen it makes it hard to understand what it means
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This needs to be an industry standard, just purchasing one for validation and also testing the customer service dept.
It is. Gamers nexus started doing it with prebuilts years ago.
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@@allytg1 Does GN also take the cherry-picked one for comparison? Ive seen them buy theirs out of pocket but havent really seen a side-by-side or reviewer vs standard.
@@banisherblade no, they just test the anonymously bought one to test the quality of what an actual customer would get.
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As a former PC builder for a large company, the reset switch is used because novice users find it more intuitive than needing software which is often buggy and can run into compatability issues.
I very much prefer to control my RGB with the case (proud owner of fractal pop)
Reset can be done by holding the power button anyway
That makes a ton of sense. My custom system from Cyberpower (bought during the pandemic when you couldn't buy a gpu at a remotely decent price but could get a SI build that was cheaper) and they wired my rgb through the front button on a Lian Li O11 Dynamic XL. So seems like common practice. I will say that they installed my fans improperly, exhaust on the bottom and side (obviously including the top Aio) and the only intake was the rear 120mm fan.
I've never used the reset switch on my old PC, makes sense
Yea I found that to be pretty obvious, that this is a lower end build probably intended for rather novice pc users, and one of the main things they'd want is to have easy control over the main lighting -and intuitively they'd think it would be accessible via a switch/button on the case itself, rather than in some specialized control software that may or may not be pre installed for them.
RGB control in general is still one of the main sore spots of the entire PC industry that I can not fathom hasn't been standardized yet with easy control options. Like, literally every tiny component can be bought with RGB these days, but nobody is invested in making the controls for anything and everything RGB be easy.
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I've used their products for years so it is actually nice that overall they did good here. It makes you happy to back a company that isn't complete crap.
Yes I'm a fan of Cooler Master, pretty much every product I've purchased from them worked as expected and well. I like their case designs, and my dream case is the CM Haf 700 Evo it's simply beautiful yet still has amazing airflow
@@emilyshabang I've been running a storm Stryker for like 10 years at this point (god i really need to upgrade😅) and it's been a really nice case all that time.
They have horrible quality control. Their DDR RAM doesn't even work.
@@Haskellerz And important settings arent turned on like resizeable bar. I think this was a catastrophy even if they show it was a "win" for coolermaster.
the only thing which is complete crap is the keyboard kit, I remember getting the Devastator 2 almost a decade ago for 20$, mouse was real bad but the keyboard was decent for the price (at the time). 5y later I had to get a cheap keyboard and mouse for my gf, so I went straight for the same kit, was discontinued and replaced by the devastator 3 and it was 35$, my ingenuity brought me to think that it was just a newer and improved kit, so I got one.... It was a complete pile of steaming s***, it was so bad that I actually sent it back thinking that it was defective or something, needles to say I got back the same crap, somehow the typing experience was worst than all e-waste keyboards I had tried at the time
Honestly, this looks like the best prebuild I have seen in that priceclass, beside the not posting issue. The value is fantastic I must say. I would never buy one but then I build computers for my friends and family (and once owned a small computer store) so I'm not their customer.
It's one of the rare prebuilts that actually has good airflow and amazingly enough it's priced mostly as if you bought the components yourself. It's truthfully very impressive. The ram was disappointing but I think that was mostly a one off issue as anyone can get a stick of ram like that. I personally can't fault them much about the bios bc it was likely built, boxed, and distributed prior to those updates...as well as there's no way they could unbox every system whenever a bios or GPU update is sent out. The reset button being the rgb controller is fairly common with a lot of cases....when you build in them the instructions tell you this and let you know that you can allow the mb to control it. Like Linus said tho at least you don't have bloatware, and you are given the option to install rgb software if you decide to.
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Normally I build my brother's computers, but he really wanted a new one in early 2022 and I just couldn't be bothered to hunt down parts for him at a price I was willing to let him pay at the time so he ordered one from Origin that was similar to ones that were in LTT videos. $3K and they didn't screw in the power supply, it was just floating in there. 🙄
@@emilyshabang At the discount it appears to be cheaper than you can build yourself. Unless there have been recent parts pricing drops as well.
10:49 I actually put together a bunch of PCs like this using CM parts for kids under the age of 10; the reset function was unlikely to be used often and the simple button press to change RBG styles made sense for them. I figured when they're old enough to be interested in taking the thing apart, they'll figure out software control for themselves as well.
I haven't used a reset button in a decade at least
@@nostrum6410Mostly just useful when you have it on a test bench/during building.
@@nostrum6410 i personally use it at least once a month, often when Windows freezes
@@t0biascze644 If your Windows is freezing once a month, there is something seriously wrong with your system. I haven't had Windows freeze since XP, probably.
10:10 It's not just a Cooler Master thing, I bought a SilverStone case and it came with the Reset switch plugged into the RGB controller too. I also switched the cables to make it actually reset the PC and RGB be controlled by the motherboard.
Same. I have a Fractal Design case and the smaller button is labeled in the manual as an RGB button.
If I have to build a workstation machine (or get to recommend something) its always a HAF case. The chonky fans just fix a good amount of problems or complaints people might have, especially once it gets dusty.
I have to say, I would totally recommend this prebuilt to my friends, I don‘t mind troubleshooting it once when it arrives as long as the price is fine and it is unlikely to have problems moving forward.
This is marvelous! I really am impressed with what they're doing. The system looks great and contains no proprietary parts that I saw which means upgrading will be no problem. There is hardly a markup on the components, I have no idea how that is sustainable. The lack of bloatware is admirable and leads to a cleaner, smoother, and more efficient experience. The RGB thing was a bit unusual but not without its advantages. This level of quality should be standard in the industry. Cooler Master has set the bar high indeed by provided a reasonably priced, aesthetically pleasing, uniform, and customer oriented product. I don't know if they're only trying extra hard because they're new to this and will slack off later once they've built a solid reputation but this as it is now is how all system integrators should be. Bravo.
They make some of the components (e.g. power supply) so they only have to pay the manufacturing and materials cost of those parts.
They probably get a bulk discount on the parts that they don't make.
This is why it's probably very sustainable for them.
Also, as they make off the shelf components, it's probably going to encourage people to buy THEIR components when/if they upgrade due to some degree of brand loyalty. Making proprietary systems probably is more effort than it's worth for Cooler Master.
@@fleurdewin7958 I didn't say it wasn't sustainable, only that I didn't know *_how_* it was sustainable, now I do know. :)
@@Voltaic_Fireno one said that you said it wasn't sustainable
nice try cooler master
@@jamesjohnXII they deleted their comment
I actually like the back panel having white zip ties. Spotting the zip ties can help you when you upgrade the PC.
imagine having eyes
@@vlissblisskiss :DD
I bought one of these on Best Buy. When I inspected the case it was filled with fans, but they were all set take air IN to the case, but there was no where for the air to go! I had to then go and swap everything around to have air being pulled in from the front and side and vented out from the back and top. My temps for the CPU went from 80C with just 20 minutes of gaming to 50C with 2 hours of gaming. Not sure how that passed inspection!
I'm guessing you meant it went up to 80? All fans blowing inward is a little old of a way to do it, but it's actually pretty standard.
@@OmniUni I would understand if there was a spot for the air to vent, but all possible venting locations were blocked by fans bringing air in. And yes, I did mean it that way, sorry about that.
@@forgotten893 The old wisdom was that air would still escape out of gaps and the higher static pressure would allow better cooling. It's actually how I was taught in school back in the Pentium 4 days. (I don't do it like that anymore, I usually have one fan on the back I blow air out, I'm just saying this was, at one point, the recommended configuration.)
The reason why the reset switch was used to control the RGB was most likely because the Asus Armory Crate software doesnt work very well in the sysprep environment on the factory floor, so to combat that the reset switch was used. An alternative solution would be to drop a shortcut in the Default\Desktop folder whilst in the sysprep environment so that it would show up for the end user to install. Kinda tedious but works well.
Armory Crate barely works as it is.
I'm surprised you never came across the reset button as an RGB controller, it's very common and some case makers (AeroCool comes to mind) have it as the default in their instructions in cases that include RGB fans. Far easier to set up and better than using proprietary bloatware if you ask me.
It shows how little experience the guys at LTT have with budget cases, where that practice has been extremely common for many years. My Thermaltake Versa J24 ARGB that I've had since 2019, for example, was set up that way.
Honestly, repurposing the reset button on the case to be your RGB control is actually a really cool idea. Maybe I am strange, but I don't find much value in that button and a quick, easy, program free RGB changer is a neat idea for it.
Exactly I've had a computer for 9 years now and only used the reset button a couple times
I’d definitely prefer a physical button for it over software. I actually forgot about reset buttons because the case I’ve been using for 6 years doesn’t even have one lol.
My case doesn't even have a reset switch, and the previous one I had it unplugged. The power switch is enough.
@@FastSloth87 That's what I was thinking whenever it was something technical I always just held the power button until everything shut off. I mostly used restart as a rage quit button when extreme rage hit rather than alt-F4, I'd just slam the button restarting the entire system lmao.
@@TheTyisawesome I think since I've been an adult, I've hit the reset button accidentally more often than deliberately. I just leave it unplugged now.
It makes a lot of sense for a company that specializes in cooling to build PCs, providing they bring that same expertise to the builds.
As plenty of people have already said, the reset switch to control the RGB is quite common practice.
Yes, you sometimes need to hard reset your PC, but pressing the power button for a few seconds to turn it off and then turn it on again, works just fine.
12:52 im so glad someone remembered the kfconsole is still a thing, i havent seen anyone mention it in ages
I actually built a very similar system myself ... not in the HAF 500 but in the CoolerMaster Master Case 5 Pro which is the direct predecessor to the HAF 500.
9:38 CAN WE TALK ABOUT HOW CLEAN THIS WAS
The graphs and charts are so clear and refreshing to look at now.
I see a lot of people liking that the RGB is on the reset switch and you know what... I agree. I DO think they should put some sort of guide in with the system that explains that and how to connect it to the motherboard for "advanced use". I had a windows update that broke my RGB for months and I tried several ways of fixing it including trying some opensource software that I couldn't make work. ALL I WANTED was a solid color pattern, super simple, and I am kind of annoyed that I can't just set RGB values directly in the BIOS as an override and not have any software control at all. Eventually another windows update did fix this problem but I spent months with a puke rainbow pattern going on because I had no other choice and wasn't going to OS reinstall over that. Also if I were dual booting (which I sometimes do), having it hardware controlled would be nice.
I have to think that for 90% of users the reset switch and hardware control is a better solution. "Keep it simple, stupid"
After one too many accidental resets, I have stopped connecting the rest switch in any of my builds, even builds for family and friends. Plenty of pre-builts (particularly non-gaming ones) don't even have a reset switch, so you're not missing much. I would consider it a plus that Cooler Master didn't connect it here.
The last three PCs I've build didn't have functioning reset switches.
I haven't connected the reset button in over a decade. It's actually clever to repurpose it like that for the LED's
@@ArgedisFr im about to do it to mine, the fans i have only connect to their controller and that controller doesnt connect to the Mobo. so i just have a random button sitting in the case to control fan colors.
I can't believe anyone can live without the Reset Button. They can't say they have NEVER had a Software/Hardware Lock-up at any point in time,on ANY Compy ! Has NEVER Happened ! Windows isn't that Perfect ! Especially if you did something in a jamb,or a Power surge ! And that can surely do it,without proper protection.
I don't know how many times i've had to reach for that,AND YES,sometimes that doesn't always work as you should know.
There is nothing that infuriates me more,is Proprietary HORSE$#!T vendors Omitting the Reset PIN on the Motherboard !
@@phyde1885 simple solution: stop using windows and start using linux on a librebooted thinkpad.
Just ordered - they are $849 no tax in TX now, and they upgraded to a 4060 ti. Threw in 64g of ddr4 for about a hundy since I will be doing video editing (I know overkill, but I keep my desktops for several years). Excited to play BG3 with my kids...
That reset pin should be on the RGB controller because by holding that you can switch from the motherboard control to its own controlled preset and vice versa.
Love the visualizations that you guys are using to show the benchmarking data
Many cases with built in RGB hubs use the reset button to change colours/effects. It's not unusual.
The "that's bad, that's good, that's bad" section you introduced back in that video with Plouffe is awesome. I love it. It's funny, entertaining but more so informative as well.
This is needs to become a series
my new rig came two days ago. wasnt a cooler master but had some nice features too:
-A 3cm long screw from a fan
-An awesome error screen saying that windows wasnt installed properly
-A CPU that was between 50-60c when IDLEing and constant 100c when gaming
-A free plastic sticker on the cold plate xD
I've never known anyone who ever used the reset button intentionally. It makes way more sense to make it rgb control and I've seen that setup mentioned in several cheap rgb controller manuals.
Quick note: The B-roll of re-installing the fallen screw is actually removing the screw. Someone had the LTTStore screwdriver set backward.
9:17 Hanging off the desk!? 😂
Can I just say thank you for including a sponsor with prices in CAD? It's a weird nitpick, but it actually makes a difference where I'll shop.
I like what cooler master have done here, and I particularly like the 2x200mm fan configuration on the front. I think more cases should go with 200mm fans.
Indeed . My Xigmatek case has 2 x 200mm front fans .. Just not sure about the air gap tho.
200mm are hard to find, my case had 5 of them
@@kennymilsom Heh, xigma.
This was so relatable when I first got my pc case I was building it then I noticed the rgb is connected to the reset switch area which tells me there is some sort of new trend here
This prebuilt looks really great, especially for the price. 3060 with an i5, m2 ssd and 16gb of ram for 899 is practically a steal.
Super glad they use normal color ties on the back. Makes it way easier to spot them and be sure you got em all before going to unplug something.
in India our ceiling fan IS the white noise machine
For those who don't know, Csgo only goes up to 300fps if you start it up as normal. You have to type in the console fps_max and then the maximum you want to hit, lets say like 500. And if you're Machine is capable enought it should hit now around that number. Just if you where curious how they get all those high numbers.
not gonna lie. The Fan aiming at the GPU is a pretty Cool idea :)
That good job for the QA slip on the Cooler Master-selected review sample made me chuckle.
That computer gon' get better cooling than we got during this summer 😂
Fr lmfao😂😂
3:13 cooler master using reverse psychology 😂😂
One good thing about tying the controlling the RGB into the reset switch is that you can troll someone with it. Well in all seriousness Cooler master did an amazing job with the system overall yeah there are some minor things that they need to do but it is not bad at all. I have seen worse from the prebuilts that Steve from GamersNexus reviewed.
Recently built a PC with an Antec case..... It didn't even have a reset button on top, but it did have an LED button...... Cooler master can just relabel the button, and problem solved!
Yes MUCH WORSE. I actually think Steve would give this system a pretty decent review esp considering the price. The ram was the only egregious issue and that could be a fluke problem....and could happen to anyone that buys a set of ram
I know it isn't practical for my generation's attention time, but I miss the LTT intro. In my own opinion it was the best intro on youtube. May it rest in peace.
I mean, they are the master of coolers, so their PCs' temperature would always be cool, right?
Funny you should say that....
I bought a CM H500 to replace my HAF 912. The 200 mm fans on the front must be great for slow, quiet but plentiful airflow right? Well.... One problem. The holes in the metal plate at the front are only sized approximately for 140 mm fans. So the 200 mm fans just aren't operating at peak efficiency like advertised.
Also one time my auto correct changed Cooler Master to Cooker Master.... Omg I broke out laughing.
@@HAFBeast91the pc just instantly starts cooking when you turn it on
@@HAFBeast91pc and air-fryer in one? The future is beautiful
I actually prefer hard pressing the power button for 5+ seconds instead of the reset switch. It actually is kinda cool changing the rgb with the reset switch instead of having bloatware. All of this assuming I didn't misunderstand the situation, lol... glhf fam and as always thank you for your hard work and dedication!!!
It would be cool to see you try NZXT’s prebuilt series, I recently got one from NZXT, granted I selected the parts and wasn’t apart of their pre-built line up, but would still be interested to see how they fare performance and price wise
from what I know, NZXT is very solid and consistent, but not the best price to performance.
While Amazon is great, I can say Cooler Master (especially as a Canadian) has the worst RMA service I have ever experienced from a company (note their BBB F rating). I got a DOA AIO from them in 2015, took almost a year back and forth to get it sorted, several months for processing and shipping each time.
The first replacement I got was an upgraded SKU because they didn't have the one I returned, great but they sent the screws for the other sku. So I had to send the whole thing back and forth again before it finally got dealt with.
Would be interesting to see fps count with the original firmware. If it fixed issues with the 3060 then that might explain the improvement.
Man I would fucking love to see how the Labs gang does their stuff. Lot of talent working behind the scenes and I love that.
I don't really like the reset button personally. If it's disconnected, you have to long press the power button, and that's hard to do accidentally. Plus if things are wedged badly enough to need a hard reset, I'd rather power everything totally off, and let the BIOS and other firmwares initialise from cold. It's too easy for weird stuff to happen with peripherals or add-in cards if you just press the reset button IMHO (but maybe I just have add-in cards that are too interesting).
Yeah, the fact any desktop cases still have a "reset" button seems like a weird legacy of early PCs. It doesn't really make sense with modern computers and operating systems. You rarely should ever use it, and can just hold the power button if you need to.
Another option if feasible after upfront and maintenance costs factored in is a chiller system. A chiller system and air handlers come in different sizes. Can cool in building or whole stadiums
Impressive price point, but a system that doesn’t boot has to be darn near the last thing you’d hope for in a prebuilt
Yeah I wish they would have been harder on them about that. Faulty ram, faulty display port without a bios change, and bar not enabled? Sure, for us tech heads we can fix that. But for the public? It would have been an ABYSMAL experience to have a DOA system. Because that's what it was, DOA. It wouldn't turn on with the ram installed by default.
At least Amazon support were on the ball and offered to send a technician out for free to diagnose. That's pretty refreshing.
To be fair it was bought on Amazon
@@AndyMitchellUK26 agreed, that's almost shocking, didn't know Amazon did that sort of thing these days, and that's better than nothing, but I honestly feel like short of some unpredictable shipping damage, I'd expect the system to boot first try.
This is why I love LTT and have been a fan the last 6 years or so. The dedication to transparency and thoroughness is entertaining, refreshing, and sadly, very novel in the tech community it seems. Thankfully here’s atleast one RUclips I can trust to try to put out genuine, honest, and in good faith information.
i love the videos where they test how good their sponsors products are, it really shows how important we (the viewer) are to ltt
reset switches are pretty much a legacy option now, as it mostly benefits only one thing: spinning plater harddrives. hard shutdown then powering back on would cause the platter to slow down then ramp back up, increasing wear, so restarting would allow it just stay turned on, mitigating this additional wear. now, with most people going SSD/NVME only, it doesn't matter, except you have to hold the power button down for 5 seconds (an arguement can be made for watercooling pumps and fans, but pumps are generally magnetically driven, and fans don't spin anywhere near as fast or are as heavy as a HDD anyway, so the wear is a lot less extreme on an inertia stand-point)
Idea for the future. You should try contacting support on some of the issues you had (That aren't very obvious) just to see how the brand's support would act.
The Editing skills are so underrated on this team
this new editing format with the meme like cutaways is really cool
Cooler master has probably become my favourite brand for most peripherals and fans now. Their mobius fans perform within a few degrees of noctua, phanteks, and lian li and are like half the price. They make a very good product for the money in my opinion.
Totally agree
Regarding rgb controller being controlled by a reset button, I think they should've went the deepcool way where there is a physical separate button for rgb for onboard rgb controller. I use my mobo's port anyway, but it's nice to have this good option. Although, the UX problem is that reset button is in a different style from the power button and in the same style as rgb button, so unless you read the label you can mistake it. The model I have and talkign about is Matrexx 55 btw.
Honestly im still not 100% convinced amd & Intel don't send out highly binned samples of their cpus to reviewers.
I mean they bin them all during production anyway, so it'd be super easy
Yeah, whoever wrote the script must not know that much about CPU/GPU samples. How did that get to filming without raising any red flags?
At 0:48-Well played, Linus and company!
6:43 😂😂😂😂😂im dead
Idk if anyone else noticed this but I love the new charts theme you guys are using
Imagine having your wife run your company's HR so you can keep any and all problems hush hush but have an entire channel dedicated to judging other company's ways of handling internal and external problems? Gotta love it!
As someone who's getting into pcs, but afraid to build one myself, I'd love to see you make a video doing a tier list/ranking/discussion on the best prebuilt pc companies
I buy hardware, not brand names! If some off the wall Chinese company popped up right now today and called themselves 'Pink Poop', would I buy from them? Damn right I would if they had the best hardware for the least coin! If you offer a 13th gen i9 with 64 gigs, 1Tb, a 790 chipset and a 4080 all for the low low price of $2k..... Damn right I'mma take that chance even if the case glows pink with an RGB turd for a logo! I mean, what good is card fraud protection if not to protect? Cheers 🍻
I used to build PC's for a company and that screw is one of those things that just shouldn't happen. When I built a computer the last step before packaging the computer was to shake it and listen for anything rattling around. Then lift it over my head, turn it upside down and shake it again. Any thing rattling was reason to open it up and check what was going on, then test that it still runs, close it up and shake it again...
Thing is if turning it upside down and shaking it violently by hand would unseat cards or cables then it wouldn't survive being shiped to the customer anyway.
When building a larger series of computers I also started with making a master, taking care with cable routing and all that. Then that stayed available for everyone to look at if they wondered how to route a certain cable. In some cases I made a cable jigg for pre-folding cables so you only had to throw them in without having to think about the routing. But this was mostly back when IDE and P-ATA was standard for HDD's and optical drives.
Having said that mistakes still happens. You can only do your best to eliminate the risks, but no one can always crank out perfect machines.
Next Nvidia will ne making cpus😂😂😂
They already do
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@@hyxlo_ Really? Had no idea. That's nuts.
This is 9000 IQ Video on buying a 2nd PC without them knowing it. I love their cases in the past. This PC looks like a good deal if the unite don't blow up in shipping.
is the bald guy from labs fired yet?
Bootleg Andrew Tate
Oh this is a cool twist on the secret shopper video. I'd watch this type of video all day long
Companies should take these videos as a blessing, and use the opportunity to shop their distributors like Amazon, and QC their own stuff.
2:36 Nice to see I wasn't the only one to mount an extra fan there.
I'm not a computer expert or even 'advanced user' or anything like that, but love this channel and it makes sense. Kind of like a guitar- better results (usually) by getting individual parts that you want and building yourself, vs a pre-compiled, mass produced thing. Every 'mass produced' guitar I've bought, I had to do a bit of work on to make 'proper for me'
The thing about the RGB/Reset button is the controller in general, You hold the reset button and it will reset the Machine perfectly fine.
LTX Day 1 was amazing. Thank you so much LMG!
CPU Thermal Paste Is Messy, So Thermalright Developed the Heilos Pad
Cooler Master has been doing it for ages. My very first Gaming PC with an I5 4950 and a GTX 650 was from them. So they've been doing it for at least ten years!
Something i want to mention: heads up to linus for being selfironic and a great person to be able to have the desktop background they used. Mamy people would not have enough humor to allow that or would be hurt by that. It takes a lot to stand above something like that and laugh about it. Speaks lengths about linus as a person and his character
Great timing. I literally just did a repair on a cooler master prebuilt
A Bung is a cork with a hole in it used for making booze. The hole "bung hole" is ised for a tube that bubbles to let out gasses when they build up, So you dont have to watch it when its fermenting.
0:58 The guy in the grey shirts, we have to have him as a creator more often.
I actually liked the idea of using the reset switch to control the RGB controller, but if you can control through software, it is better. I dont get the point of the reset button, you can just press the power button for 5 seconds to get essentially the same result.
can you guys do another game studio tour again? Its been 5 years since the last one and I would like to see how they are now and what kind of spec are expected to be running to make a game for each person. Also maybe adding parts like the kind of headset, testing area tech, what not to get and what to get for a game developer and so on (I'm trying to become a game developer and would love to learn more about this area if you guys could help me with that).
I don't know who on writing staff keeps making the Simpsons "That's Bad. That's good!" joke but I love it so much
Having the technician come out would have been an easy video about how good that service provided by Amazon is.
1:18 I incredibly respect what y’all do for this industry, plus you’re entertaining.
I have a theory, The black zip ties on the business' end of the computer are the small zip ties that some times come with PSU's and in my latest build, The motherboard came with a few. And the natural plastic ones are their inhouse ones for the party end of the computer.
The most helpful LTT video ever was the one where Luke tested how bad cable management distrubs airflow and cooling. The answer was "not at all". Which is such a perfect excuse for the mess in mine....
Of course it helps that there is no glas window or RGB, due to the fact that it is BS.
Thx for mentioning Resize BAR. Just got stuff taken care of on my end with my new build; RTX 4070 & 13600K on a Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX DDR4 mobo! :) Stuff like this is definitely not easily found/understood by the masses --- well it should be.
yea I don't remember the last time I've used a reset button. Having it as an RGB controller sounds pretty cool actually
6:52 there are hundreds of different "models" of that keyboard; they just use different housing(if even that) but insides stays the same.
That airplane at the star looked pretty SUS
Absolutely loved the Arrested Development reference
I recently purchased a variant of that TeamGroup RGB RAM and I'm VERY impressed.
I got the DDR4 32GB 4000mhz kit for $85 to upgrade my aging z370 system and unsurprisingly it didn't like the XMP profile.
However I was able to downclock it to 3600mhz and got the CL to 16 rock solid stable. 3600mhz CL16 for $85!
For reference the Corsair 3600mhz CL16 kit is over $100. The RGB on the TeamGroup RAM is very nice looking as well.
Sucks that they had trouble with that 1 stick they received.
Pretty much proof that cooler master has no quality control and never tested it before shipping
Finally graphs are getting better but change the horizontal way you show them even tho it fills the screen it makes it hard to understand what it means
7:45 why you gotta give them a heart attack like that lmao