Why Formula 1's New CURVED Wing is GENIUS

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  • Опубликовано: 20 авг 2024
  • Now, strap in for this one. This new car design is properly genius - so let’s unpack it.
    Formula 1 unveiled a full-size version of the new car recently, and it looks radically different to the current cars. Now, a lot of this is about improving the looks of the cars but mainly to do with improving racing.
    But despite the crazy livery, the thing that caught my eye was the rear wing. We have never seen anything like this before - normally wings are boxy rather than curved like this, and for good reason!
    So is this new look an aesthetic change, or to do with actually improving overtaking. Well, it turns out, the reasoning is genius.
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    The entire philosophy of this new car is about reducing dirty air, the major factor that makes it incredibly hard to overtake.
    And on the current car the hundreds of complex aero surfaces create lots of downforce, but with the bi-product of dirty air.
    When driving behind another car, your wings no longer work and you have to take different lines and work your tyres harder to keep up.
    Wind tunnel research says that you can lose as much as 35% of your downforce when following a car within three car lengths, and as you close that up to one car length - you can lose as much as 57%!
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  • @Driver61
    @Driver61  3 года назад +269

    What do you think to this genius idea for improving overtaking? And do you like the new look of the cars??
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    • @hindools2107
      @hindools2107 3 года назад +10

      What will happen to the DRS System?

    • @nicholascrow8133
      @nicholascrow8133 3 года назад +3

      Reverse grid qualifying for top ten

    • @y_fam_goeglyd
      @y_fam_goeglyd 3 года назад +8

      For a matter of security, will the drivers have to stay off the kerbs, or will the FIA insist on them being almost flattened? I go back a long way and remember why ground effect was banned - any break in it reduced so much downforce the cars became quite dangerous.
      Great video. I'm looking forward to these new cars.

    • @broland1655
      @broland1655 3 года назад +2

      Thank you for the great video as always. I am curious about which areas of the car that can be innovated on, and will the resulting cars in 2022 really look like the demo? Or is there a lot of room for changes to the car we see here. I think that would be interesting to explore!

    • @schlix101
      @schlix101 3 года назад +9

      @@nicholascrow8133 - Reverse grid is manufactured BS and does not belong in F1. How is it even relevant to the Video?

  • @roadmantop3769
    @roadmantop3769 3 года назад +2952

    I’m looking forward to seeing the interpretations that the teams come up with 👀

    • @JordiR243
      @JordiR243 3 года назад +149

      Same, can't imagine how different each car will look compared with the base model

    • @sentientspaghetti1898
      @sentientspaghetti1898 3 года назад +111

      @@JordiR243 surely there will be lots of loopholes the teams will exploit

    • @JordiR243
      @JordiR243 3 года назад +76

      @@sentientspaghetti1898 I think they actually have a team whose job is to specifically search for loopholes and report them. It's the FIA anyway so i don't know if I should trust them

    • @giomilahy
      @giomilahy 3 года назад +34

      Wish no 2014 nose like fiasco.

    • @eoghanburke2581
      @eoghanburke2581 3 года назад +13

      @@sentientspaghetti1898 idk, with the new rules the FIA can ban loopholes at any time I think

  • @gallahant
    @gallahant 3 года назад +3740

    I bet we are in for a repeat of the 2009 season. Haas gets everything perfect and Nikita Mazepin becomes world champion.

    • @Jackinacox
      @Jackinacox 3 года назад +198

      World champion at spinning - sure!

    • @abnfalcon3901
      @abnfalcon3901 3 года назад +102

      IN PARALLEL UNIVERSE

    • @Karlywoo_Plays
      @Karlywoo_Plays 3 года назад +37

      @@abnfalcon3901 it’s a joke

    • @abnfalcon3901
      @abnfalcon3901 3 года назад +28

      @@Karlywoo_Plays I MEANT MAZEPIN WOULD BECOME CHAMPION IN PARALLEL UNIVERSE

    • @RavenSWE
      @RavenSWE 3 года назад +9

      How much are you willing to bet? I'll give you 10 to 1

  • @timocallaghan4408
    @timocallaghan4408 3 года назад +697

    fascinated by ground effect, when well implemented it can literally overcome the structural strength of the vehicle it's so effective. But if they are going full 80's with ground effect and wheel covers, they should really go full Brabham and install a big fan at the rear

    • @AnttiBrax
      @AnttiBrax 3 года назад +41

      They're not going full '80s. It's 2021 and they have access to supercomputers that can help create so much more effective ground effect designs.

    • @timocallaghan4408
      @timocallaghan4408 3 года назад +6

      @@AnttiBrax I meant stylistically..

    • @mukinfagic69
      @mukinfagic69 3 года назад +19

      This is like a ‘ground effect lite’ compared to the 80s

    • @cbt711
      @cbt711 3 года назад +12

      With today's technology, a fan car could kill drivers in some F1 course turns with the G force it would create. The Red Bull X2010 (and all the variations after it) used in race sims generates lethal G force over the course of a race. Or this might have been on the table for a 2022 design.

    • @Jonathan_Doe_
      @Jonathan_Doe_ 3 года назад +75

      @@cbt711 They should give the drivers G-Suits that compress the drivers legs like fighter pilots have. Then they could brake way harder without greying out; and steroids and amphetamines to speed their reactions up, and combat the fatigue.
      I don’t want to see the limits of a regular human. I want to see majestic, chemically enhanced weapons doing battle with physics.

  • @samramaker3200
    @samramaker3200 2 года назад +254

    I love that the devs finally nerfed the dirty air, I'm really excited for the new meta

    • @tracypanavia4634
      @tracypanavia4634 2 года назад +1

      The new meta huh🤭

    • @theindubitable
      @theindubitable 2 года назад +1

      Don't know who said it, think it's Hulkenberg, he said that it wont be easier to overtake this year.

  • @jonbraid2520
    @jonbraid2520 3 года назад +893

    Brilliant video, aerodynamics are fascinating, the new cars look stunning and hopefully improve safety and racing.

    • @F1ll1nTh3Blanks
      @F1ll1nTh3Blanks 3 года назад +6

      Not speed though. Although let's face it, it's racing not time trial.

    • @4zap7
      @4zap7 3 года назад +44

      @@F1ll1nTh3Blanks cars will lose a couple seconds as they usually do on major regulation changes but give them 2 or 3 years of development and they will be faster than current

    • @MrDoItNice
      @MrDoItNice 3 года назад +19

      @@4zap7 It's worth noting the engine freeze starts 2022 so the season to season gains will be less than previous eras.

    • @4zap7
      @4zap7 3 года назад +1

      @@MrDoItNice good point

    • @ZulRf
      @ZulRf 3 года назад +23

      A good race is not always dictated by speed, for me

  • @hallamhal
    @hallamhal 3 года назад +886

    I can't hear dirty air any more without hearing Chainbear's song in my head

    • @reid1420
      @reid1420 3 года назад +2

      🤣😂

    • @justind33
      @justind33 3 года назад +18

      I'm glad I missed that video

    • @blue04mx53
      @blue04mx53 3 года назад +18

      I can't hear 'dirty air' without thinking of the air quality outside my house due to close by forest fires.

    • @afoxwithahat7846
      @afoxwithahat7846 3 года назад +15

      I imagine dirty air like lewd anime air

    • @blue04mx53
      @blue04mx53 3 года назад +1

      @@afoxwithahat7846 because some of the air is molesting other air ? I like the way you think !

  • @StefeligaFlavius
    @StefeligaFlavius 3 года назад +155

    Was watching curious about the explanation of why the curved wing is GENIUS, then I saw my 3D model and animation at 5:35 !! Thanks, love from Romania!

    • @illegalopinions4082
      @illegalopinions4082 3 года назад +7

      He even gave you credit too. Good guy Driver61. Love the animation!

    • @Ahmed.Hadjou
      @Ahmed.Hadjou 2 года назад +2

      you made it? it's amazing, well done 👏👍

    • @StefeligaFlavius
      @StefeligaFlavius 2 года назад +3

      @@Ahmed.Hadjou Yes, and it's also for free on my YT channel as a 3D Giveaway! Check it out if you want!

  • @HungryTacoBoy
    @HungryTacoBoy 3 года назад +421

    6:32 Okay, that mitigation of downforce loss is INSANE. 57% loss down to 18% loss?! 2022 will have some damn exciting racing, hopefully!

    • @GobiLux
      @GobiLux 3 года назад +29

      If they overshoot their target it might be better to be in second than first. We would have a whole Indy Cart oval situation on our hands.

    • @jamesharrell9277
      @jamesharrell9277 3 года назад +20

      @@GobiLux especially at spa and monza

    • @falcy2889
      @falcy2889 3 года назад +9

      If Mercedes doesn’t eliminate everyone by then

    • @sergarlantyrell7847
      @sergarlantyrell7847 3 года назад +36

      Expect that difference to be less once teams get to try to exploit the rules.

    • @Michallote
      @Michallote 3 года назад +2

      @@GobiLux cars are getting heavy and wider. Tracks are not, defensive drivers can easily block any attempt

  • @0megalul309
    @0megalul309 3 года назад +935

    Colin chapman: You couldn't deal with your faliure, now return to ground effect.

    • @tnexus13
      @tnexus13 3 года назад +79

      Simplify and add ground effect.

    • @peroperic8833
      @peroperic8833 3 года назад +50

      @@tnexus13 colin chapman was a smart lad

    • @zieckenbritz811
      @zieckenbritz811 3 года назад +2

      OMEGALUL

    • @bornanagaming3329
      @bornanagaming3329 3 года назад +30

      Where does that bring you? Back to tunnels.

    • @jeidun
      @jeidun 3 года назад +1

      @@bornanagaming3329 Peugeot lmh 😳😳

  • @FC-dr5cm
    @FC-dr5cm 3 года назад +64

    I have a little question:
    If the dirty air is guided upwards by the rear wing, what would happen in wet conditions? The little water droplets would be lifted even higher than they are today, so could this lead to even more misty conditions that stay in place for longer time?

    • @G40s_WW
      @G40s_WW 2 года назад +14

      Imagine that no one thought about it 😂😂

    • @Skiddins
      @Skiddins 2 года назад +10

      With droplets being lifted higher, might allow better visibility in the wet when following another car closely?!
      Guess we'll have to wait and see.

    • @stevemontgomery5935
      @stevemontgomery5935 2 года назад +6

      might dry the track quicker??

    • @lovelaugh7299
      @lovelaugh7299 2 года назад

      That would be better than what's actually happening. If a driver follows another driver in wet he cant see shit. If ur idea actually works it should help

  • @adamplace1414
    @adamplace1414 3 года назад +32

    We've heard a lot of FOM rhetoric about the 2022 regs before, so this explanation is greatly appreciated! I needed a breakdown like this, because everything I'd read or seen up until now just felt like "aero magic".

  • @mcdev6868
    @mcdev6868 3 года назад +80

    4:51 ideal lines at their best

  • @jonathaniipinge8796
    @jonathaniipinge8796 3 года назад +103

    Mate I've been waiting for tech analysis this video is amazing

  • @xenofalcon
    @xenofalcon 3 года назад +29

    This new car, just from a visual standpoint, looks as though it works with the air, rather than against it.

  • @gaveintothedarkness
    @gaveintothedarkness 3 года назад

    This is why i love your channel, all facts and no marketing BS or fluff speaking about how "ACB race team has special secret tech that creates 200% more downforce and half the weight but we can tell you anything about it because we dont know and can only show you the same stock footage over and over again" ....i may have gone on a bit of a rant there.

  • @ArghyadebBandyopadhyay
    @ArghyadebBandyopadhyay 3 года назад +78

    Driver61: The new wing is genius
    Gordon Ramsay: It's hideous. The turkey in my backyard has better wings.

    • @litlock123
      @litlock123 3 года назад +1

      @@AzathothsAlarmClock Dude puts peas in fucking everything lol

  • @Thebakedbaker413
    @Thebakedbaker413 3 года назад +121

    "take the edge off" literally calmer driving less edgy, im excited.

    • @jout738
      @jout738 3 года назад +5

      Yes the car behind can drive longer in corner close, when there is a lot reduce in the downforce, so its not so much harder to drive behind close, than before.

  • @rickardboberg
    @rickardboberg 3 года назад +6

    Awesome!
    You nailed it with a pretty accurate description of how the airflow generates downforce. The most common mistake is to say that the low and high pressure difference generates all downforce, or lift at airplanes. But it's so much more complex than that.

    • @ameunier41
      @ameunier41 3 года назад

      There's many way to explain lift, but it all come down to pressure differential and conservation of momentum.

    • @_Dibbler_
      @_Dibbler_ 3 года назад

      Well, when he said in the beginning that the air is pushed up and the car is pushed down it kind of felt like newtons (wrong) aerodynamics. But luckily what came after that showed a lot more understanding. It’s a good explanation of the new rules overall and it seems F1 should put more effort into explaining them to the fans

    • @KillCamEditoR
      @KillCamEditoR 3 года назад

      @@_Dibbler_ Newton’s understanding of aerodynamics as he described it in Principia is wrong (except for high Machs) but lift is still taught as resulting from his third law, and referred to as Newtonian description of lift, as opposed to the Bernoulli description.

    • @_Dibbler_
      @_Dibbler_ 3 года назад

      @@KillCamEditoR I dont know who you mean is teaching Newtons 3rd law for lift. I learned it as a difference of pressure, more or less as a result of differences in speed, not by impact and deflection. On a wing airflow is lead up and down, not pushed up and down.

    • @KillCamEditoR
      @KillCamEditoR 3 года назад

      @@_Dibbler_ we’re talking about the same thing. The pressure difference borne by asymmetric sections leads to speed differences, which changes the direction of airflow downwards. This is known as downwash. By definition, (Newton’s 1st law) if an object (in this case a fluid particle) changes direction, it is because a force has acted upon it. Therefore, a force has been applied to the fluid particle, by the wing.
      Newton’s third law dictates that for any action, there is an equal and opposite reaction : the fluid particle has acted a force onto the wing, lift.
      That’s the Newtonian explanation for lift. Not as Newton thought it worked. Particles of fluid do not push the wing up. That only works in hypersonic regimes. But it’s still the Newtonian explanation of lift. And it does stem from the Bernoulli pressure difference.

  • @unprofesionel
    @unprofesionel 3 года назад +157

    Does this wing still have DRS?
    I haven't seen any info on this before that's why Im asking

    • @mubashirshoukat8463
      @mubashirshoukat8463 3 года назад +48

      It will in its final iteration.

    • @WaifuWarsRacing
      @WaifuWarsRacing 3 года назад +60

      yes, DRS will still be in place, but the goal is to get rid of it if the cars' concept of better racing pans out

    • @Kazimx0786
      @Kazimx0786 3 года назад +50

      Short answer: Not currently implemented.
      With the new F1 car design most of the downforce is now generated through ground effects which first came into prominence in the 70s the most notable example being the BT46B aka the Fan car.
      Ground effects is being used in LM cars as it generates a greater downforce than a wing alone with some cars even opting to remove the wing entirely however that's mainly due to limitations due to regulations a wing is still good.
      DRS is only useful for the straights as the new wing doesn't give no where near as much downforce as the current mechanical wing which opens up to reduce drag (DRS).
      To add DRS to the new wing design they will have to add more mechanical parts making the car heavier and it will not have as big of an impact as it does when compared to the current wing design so arguably DRS is not necessary for the next season of racing.

    • @benjaminfranklyn604
      @benjaminfranklyn604 3 года назад +6

      Maybe not,like the hybrid motors are getting better,the Drs wing part was over rated.i think 2022 is over with too much down force and dirty air will be a thing of the past.

    • @benjmaaan
      @benjmaaan 3 года назад +16

      I believe DRS will be a thing until 2023, subject to change depending on how the racing is with the new cars

  • @TommoOnYoutube
    @TommoOnYoutube 3 года назад +26

    UP THE SQUARESPACE!

  • @piccoloatburgerking
    @piccoloatburgerking 3 года назад +24

    Fantastic video, never even considered how crucial the rear wing is to the new philosophy. Looking forward to next season and for now, the next race.

  • @Holoflux
    @Holoflux 3 года назад +6

    Seen so many videos about the new regs ever since they got announced in '19
    First time i have ever heard someone talk about the wing shape and how it pulls in the air
    Good video!

  • @beanyboom18
    @beanyboom18 3 года назад +9

    The new wings look great, and hopefully we'll get to see some exciting races in the future.
    Good explanation.

  • @MrBurgerphone1014
    @MrBurgerphone1014 3 года назад +70

    3:17 Wow that wing sits low.

    • @tyler_bt3326
      @tyler_bt3326 3 года назад +2

      Looking at the car, it seemed like the rear suspension was sagging. It probably won’t look as low when it’s adjusted properly

    • @Spyker8921
      @Spyker8921 3 года назад

      @@tyler_bt3326 I hope it will look low. High rear wings are hideous

  • @blipblop5238
    @blipblop5238 3 года назад +44

    I saw the 2022 car irl at silverstone and it looked beautiful

    • @danielgratton4187
      @danielgratton4187 3 года назад +1

      Sameee so did I

    • @yas6757
      @yas6757 3 года назад

      Is it smaller?

    • @F1ll1nTh3Blanks
      @F1ll1nTh3Blanks 3 года назад +1

      @@yas6757 by 200mm Max so not significantly but every little helps.

    • @Venton25
      @Venton25 3 года назад +2

      @@F1ll1nTh3Blanks 200mm is a lot

    • @alesksander
      @alesksander 3 года назад

      @@yas6757 Well yeah as comment pointed out above. Also they finally set max wheel base in rules. I think Wheelbase is around 3500 (Merc 3700 if i m remembering correct). So yeah at least cars will not get longer.

  • @GageHeibeck
    @GageHeibeck 2 года назад +26

    After the season finale. I really hope Aston, Haas and Ferrari were putting a ton of time in development to explain their performance this season. I expect to see some wins from Vettel, Leclerc, and Sainz combined, and podiums from Schumi, Stroll, and possible Mazepin as he’s outperformed Schumi in some tracks (albeit very rarely.)

  • @jacobrzeszewski6527
    @jacobrzeszewski6527 3 года назад +150

    I’m just waiting for some team to tweak the design and bring back the dirty air for their own advantage.

    • @bobfg3130
      @bobfg3130 3 года назад +31

      They won't be allowed. That's the point of the new regulations.

    • @mukinfagic69
      @mukinfagic69 3 года назад +2

      @@bobfg3130 won’t be allowed to make aero changes?

    • @bobfg3130
      @bobfg3130 3 года назад +9

      @@mukinfagic69
      They will. Just not those.

    • @GobiLux
      @GobiLux 3 года назад +59

      @@bobfg3130 that's literally what F1 is about. Find holes and grey-zones in the rules to outsmart the FIA and the other teams!

    • @bobfg3130
      @bobfg3130 3 года назад +7

      @@GobiLux
      They won't bring back the dirty air. They do it and they're disqualified. Forget about the FIA, the other teams are watching.

  • @FG011
    @FG011 3 года назад +58

    Improving overtaking?
    Hell yeah I'm all for it!

  •  3 года назад +11

    the most revised areas gonna be:
    1) the nose "cape"
    2) front & rear brake ducts
    3) the outer element (fence) of the tunnel.

  • @jamesbehra2690
    @jamesbehra2690 3 года назад +1

    Outstanding explanation Scott. For those who are interested in watch something similar in the track review the 1982 San Marino GP. No dirty air and drivers fighting for position at high speeds.

  • @FuryKnight
    @FuryKnight 3 года назад +4

    When they race in the rain it's going to look even more amazing now.

  • @thebeardedgingerontheinter3256
    @thebeardedgingerontheinter3256 3 года назад +28

    The red bull with that livery looked amazing. Hopefully new car new livery its a little over due at this point

    • @Someone25948
      @Someone25948 3 года назад +3

      Hopefully RB never changes its livery. The entire point of the RB F1 team is to promote.... you guessed it right, Red Bull. Would be stupid if they changed the livery to something else instead of retaining the classic colors

    • @mielvanvelzen5967
      @mielvanvelzen5967 3 года назад +2

      @@Someone25948 they don't have to change the colours to change the livery. You can also change the placement of the Bulls and such. Barely anything has changed these last few years but imho the current livery is hard to beat.

    • @Someone25948
      @Someone25948 3 года назад

      @@mielvanvelzen5967 Hmm is that really a livery change though? Pretty sure most people won't even notice it. Beats the point of changing your livery. Agree with last point

    • @mielvanvelzen5967
      @mielvanvelzen5967 3 года назад +1

      @@Someone25948 i mean any change to the livery is technically a livery change. But you could absolutely make it look very diffrent by taking the bulls away from their current spot and further shifting the balance of the colors.

    • @Someone25948
      @Someone25948 3 года назад

      @@mielvanvelzen5967 I didn't understand what you mean by shifting the color balance

  • @danepaulsen367
    @danepaulsen367 3 года назад +9

    Damn that Red Bull concept looks amazing 😍😍😍

  • @nfggarage8135
    @nfggarage8135 3 года назад +8

    Ground Effects are back and better than ever

  • @DxBang3D
    @DxBang3D 3 года назад +3

    Thanks for putting the credits of the videos you included in the video here, I found 3 awesome RUclipsrs to subscribe to :)

  • @don-dspid2404
    @don-dspid2404 3 года назад +22

    Thank you for explaining this. I was wondering what that lower wing affect was doing. That is brilliant. Looking forward to next year. Questions - When do the teams get started on the new cars? Is it a set date for everyone? When is that?

    • @ShortCene
      @ShortCene 3 года назад +3

      They have already started, most have already focussing on them a few months ago

    • @TyphloRanitar
      @TyphloRanitar 3 года назад +10

      The teams are already busy with the development of the new car. They started drawing as soon as the new regulations were specified in 2019 and by now, they have a model in the wind tunnel. But if your question is related to team release dates, I'm not sure if that has a specified date yet. But it's likely februari 2022, just before the wintertests. Like most years.

  • @CHBK123
    @CHBK123 3 года назад +15

    love your content, some of the best on youtube 👍

    • @Driver61
      @Driver61  3 года назад +1

      Glad you enjoy it!

  • @blueocean9305
    @blueocean9305 3 года назад

    As a Aeronautical engineer for over 4 decades I really appreciate these aero changes, especially in the wing. The end plates eliminated span-wise flow but as with many aero tweeks its caused other problems. While the downforce on the new wing may washout a bit on corners when the wing experiences sideslip, it stills appears to be a vast improvement over the current wing. I'm interested if there will be a corresponding improvement in cross winds. Engineers love to add devices like rakes, fences, and generators to improve performance, but these in turn cause issues of their own. No free lunch or silver bullets in aerodynamics. I love this formula and we will see which team will learn the fastest to setup this car. Cheers

  • @johnlloyd2390
    @johnlloyd2390 3 года назад

    What causes wing vortices is the pressure differential between low pressure air on the underside of the wing and high pressure air on the top, which is drawn around the ends (tips) of the wings. That would set up a circular flow if the car was stationary. Since the car is moving, that vortex is stretched out behind the car. You can see the same effect on airplane wings if the plane flies through a cloud.
    The end plates are there to prevent that wing tip vortex from forming. The "tip ups" on the ends of airliner wings do the same thing, "fencing off" high and low pressure air. The vortices that form around a race car's wings are caused by the build-up of air trapped in the corner between the trailing edge of the wing and the end plates. The louvers in the upper end plates are there to allow some of that bunched-up air to escape. In that respect, removing the upper portion of the wing endplates won't harm downforce that much.
    The best way to reduce the influence of dirty air on a race car is not to fiddle with the wings, but to remove them entirely. Or at least reduce them to the point of being aerodynamic trim tabs. Yes, downforce makes the cars go faster, but is that really a good idea? The best competition in motorsports comes in smaller classes like Formula Ford, where there are no wings at all.
    Flat-out speed numbers may sound impressive, but I watch racing for competition, not some esoteric engineering fight where most of the competition is in wind tunnel numbers. Faster lap times are only really evident on stop watches. Rates of closure and overtaking are what generate competition. Keep your technological Rubik's Cubes and give us cars that RACE, rather than "generate numbers."

  • @chunheiso5806
    @chunheiso5806 3 года назад +25

    I can imagine engineers working to actually create dirty air at the back and increase down force loss for the car following, I mean you can't unlearn a concept

    • @ZulRf
      @ZulRf 3 года назад +9

      If that happened, I hope that FIA try to do something for the team who did that.

    • @canismajoris6733
      @canismajoris6733 3 года назад +2

      Why would you do that when it slows down your own car to do so? Makes no sense at all

    • @chunheiso5806
      @chunheiso5806 3 года назад +1

      @@canismajoris6733 just by making sure the diffuser doesn't bring the over body dirty air up, make it out washy

    • @anonymousarmadillo6589
      @anonymousarmadillo6589 3 года назад +7

      That would be pretty smart to do. But regulations would be tight enough to make the engineers spend sleepless nights trying to figure it out

    • @krzysztofkozowicz9830
      @krzysztofkozowicz9830 3 года назад +2

      @@canismajoris6733 It's only by a bit and it can provide downforce just like current wings. You don't need much to change the air flow at such high speeds. I'm nearly sure rear end of the car will be nearly the same in all teams because of that. Also it's very easy to measure so there should be no "flex wing" situation.

  • @janukachandrasena5915
    @janukachandrasena5915 3 года назад +54

    I honestly thought I was looking at a photoshopped Indy car the first time I saw the new car

    • @danielenriquemarcano9429
      @danielenriquemarcano9429 3 года назад +1

      This was my first impression too. Lol

    • @miriamreiss
      @miriamreiss 2 года назад

      I think that 1:1 model was build by Dalara......like the Indycars....and F2 Cars....

  • @crustyoldfart
    @crustyoldfart 3 года назад +1

    A good explanation of the new design, and its main purpose being to reduce the effects of ' dirty ' air on following cars.
    On a slightly different line of reasoning it would be highly desirable IMO to configure the new cars in a way to eliminate the danger of two side by side cars from interlocking wheels - a dangerous and ever-present possibility with the present layout. This could be accomplished simply by having side bars, similar in function to roll bars, however an alternative - following some additional research - side ducts could be designed which have the double function of managing the aerodynamics and also to mechanically preventing two adjacent cars interlocking their wheels. As an afterthought they would also reduce the downstream turbulence of the front wheels.

    • @FPBIV
      @FPBIV 3 года назад +1

      that is heresy like a driver halo.
      open-wheeled trucks use side-guards to block the kill-zone between the wheels and increase aerodynamics.
      so the principal is well-proven.
      but mortal danger is fashionable.
      time traveler, your configuration is from a safer future.

  • @glike2
    @glike2 3 года назад +1

    Former F1 fan eagerly awaiting 2022 season and these rules changes for 8 years to finally see better racing again.

    • @glike2
      @glike2 3 года назад +1

      Double chassis is next change which should be allowed.

  • @austinahagstrom
    @austinahagstrom 3 года назад +12

    So we will see some crazy rooster tails in wet races next year?

    • @Silverhks
      @Silverhks 3 года назад

      Exactly what I was thinking. With the corollaries of, will this help or hurt visibility and will the ground effects improve track drying?

  • @corner63
    @corner63 3 года назад +15

    So if there is such a reduction of dirty air, please, eliminate the DRS.

    • @tijmeoudekotte7
      @tijmeoudekotte7 3 года назад

      Drs wont be on the new cars

    • @lordptk4115
      @lordptk4115 3 года назад +6

      @@tijmeoudekotte7 It will be, but if the rules work well they want to get rid of it

    • @RammsteinPTc
      @RammsteinPTc 3 года назад

      Why do people not like drs?

    • @corner63
      @corner63 3 года назад +1

      @@RammsteinPTc BC is not real racing.

    • @bananatree2527
      @bananatree2527 3 года назад +1

      ​@@RammsteinPTc It's a bit artificial, it's meant to compensate the car behind for the time loss when following another car. The DRS zones are generally tweaked to somewhat reach that. And in practice it somewhat works, but not precisely. It more or less becomes a game of just trying to keep a car behind out of your DRS at the detection point, because if the following car is 1.1 seconds behind it still suffers quite a bit of dirty air, without getting any compensation.

  • @timgerdes529
    @timgerdes529 3 года назад +3

    Oh, sorry, I forgot to say: as always a brilliant, enlightening video. Thank's a lot!

  • @UnlovedZetsu
    @UnlovedZetsu 2 года назад +1

    You should cover up this theory I made:
    Why did the 2021 cars worked so well in Sochi whereas other tracks they don't?

  • @SOME-RANDOM-GUY457
    @SOME-RANDOM-GUY457 3 года назад +48

    I'm curious how does the drs flap work

    • @mrkic23
      @mrkic23 3 года назад +17

      I wish they remove drs. Just like the old days. If you are able to follow the car easier, then remove drs

    • @tar3712
      @tar3712 3 года назад +4

      I don't think there's going to be drs anymore
      I think they're going to go

    • @Blueturtle1
      @Blueturtle1 3 года назад +28

      @@mrkic23 like the old days, when overtaking only happened in the pits

    • @mrkic23
      @mrkic23 3 года назад +6

      @@Blueturtle1 no mate, when overtaking required positioning and skills.

    • @Blueturtle1
      @Blueturtle1 3 года назад +33

      @@mrkic23 question, have you ever watched the “old days?” If you have, then you’d know people have been moaning about it being boring since the start. Take off your rose tinted glasses

  • @dmark2639
    @dmark2639 3 года назад +5

    It is genius if it works as intended to improve racing and overtaking. Of course it's always interesting to see how teams get creative to circumvent the intention of the rules for their benefit and the disadvantage of their competitors following them...

    • @t.d6379
      @t.d6379 2 года назад

      And these cars are so ugly

    • @adamoutulny2345
      @adamoutulny2345 2 года назад

      @@t.d6379 I disagree, they got simpler thus changing all the rough edges and numerous surfaces for beatiful curves, which look better in my opinion.

  • @Tailspin80
    @Tailspin80 2 года назад

    I seem to recall that back in Murray Walker days getting into the slipstream was the first stage in mounting an overtake. It was certainly true in karting on the long circuits. Then all this aero stuff came along and spoilt it.

  • @aristoaum
    @aristoaum 3 года назад

    feels like Im watching Engineering Explained W/Chainbear at the same time ,this really good explanation that contains a lot of racing information along side w/ engineering information ,LOVE YOU GUY ,Thx for this works.

  • @lawyerlawyer1215
    @lawyerlawyer1215 2 года назад +8

    This is great news!
    Lately I was really starting to wonder why I was watching the race on sundays and skipping the classificatory laps , if those where the ones where the race was being actually decided!
    I rooting for Alonso on 2022 , I firmly believe his decision making , outside the tracks , has been quite poor during all his career , but as a driver , on equal conditions , he is the best driver on the grid I’m sure about that, but let’s see!
    I’m excited for the first time, since AMG completely destroyed the other companies in performance.

  • @tysonmcgee1891
    @tysonmcgee1891 3 года назад +12

    5:35 holy shit that livery looks gooood

    • @piccoloatburgerking
      @piccoloatburgerking 3 года назад

      I know right? Looks properly gorgeous. I hope the '22 Red Bull car looks as close to that as possible.

    • @8thlvlMage
      @8thlvlMage 3 года назад

      Ah yes, nearly black. It's something... They could do so much more.

    • @louisbeerreviews8964
      @louisbeerreviews8964 3 года назад

      @@piccoloatburgerking no the Mercedes looks good clour and will be a nice clour in 2022

  • @obro8709
    @obro8709 3 года назад

    Just subscribed and they should really put you in the race booth because the current race announcers no nothing about the technical side of F1. I really miss Steve Matchett in the booth, he was the best.

  • @Nanderson345
    @Nanderson345 3 года назад

    Thank you so much for these explanations! Whenever anything happens in F1 I visit here and there's a comprehensive explanation of what occurred and what it means. Really appreciate it. 🙏

  • @geoffreyneish7999
    @geoffreyneish7999 3 года назад +3

    Thank you for sharing your insight with us all, I think the new wing looks great! Curious what will happen to DRS for passing, looks like it has been eliminated?!? Thanks again I'm really enjoying your channel! 😎

  • @sanjinred
    @sanjinred 3 года назад +5

    I fear that when they enable a much more closer follow that this will lead to more high speed accidents. Also it is strange that the teams no longer will be able to use their aerodynamicists to develop cars that are different and much more interesting.

    • @C.I...
      @C.I... 2 года назад +1

      I was just thinking how much more badly affected a car would be if it had side contact with a tyre.
      If the floor isn't working, you're more or less out of the race.

    • @gg12345ification
      @gg12345ification 2 года назад

      Even tho they have the follow the guidelines the teams can still make slight adjustments and get creative with the details to make sure there car is just a few % better. And in f1 thats all you need to win if your good enough of a driver.

  • @jerseymoby
    @jerseymoby 3 года назад

    I thought a fart was dirty air. You learn something new every day

  • @axequit3745
    @axequit3745 2 года назад

    How many spoilers do you want?
    F1 2021: *yes*

  • @martron7
    @martron7 3 года назад +5

    From 57 to 18% This is crazy. Somehow sounds too good to be true

    • @Sum_Ting_Wong
      @Sum_Ting_Wong 3 года назад

      Without an appendages. This will reduce as designers start adding more (legal) winglets and aero devices.

  • @ilmelangolo
    @ilmelangolo 3 года назад +4

    The fact that I'm subscribed to this channel proves that I am a very clever person.

  •  3 года назад

    Mindblowing video, really nice, had no idea about the pushing dirty air upwards feature in the rear of the car, crazy!

  • @racerschin
    @racerschin 2 года назад

    I guess the effect will be safer than that of the Flying Lotus of the 70s. Cars look fresh and great again too. More minimalised design, please!

  • @kaeldorWL
    @kaeldorWL 3 года назад +37

    As interesting as this is, I'm much more curious about all the clever designs, that the teams will come up with. Though I'm not really looking forward to the "plug the loophole"-war, that will inevitably follow. Would very much prefer for these the clever innovations to remain legal until the end of the season (unless there are safety concerns, obviously).

    • @abcdefghijklmno1009
      @abcdefghijklmno1009 3 года назад

      Then you get blowouts with no championship battles.

    • @codemy666
      @codemy666 3 года назад

      Didn't FIA try to reduce ground effect due to "safety concerns"?

    • @abcdefghijklmno1009
      @abcdefghijklmno1009 3 года назад +1

      @@codemy666 They banned the old type of ground effect. This is the new ground effect.

    • @codemy666
      @codemy666 3 года назад

      @@abcdefghijklmno1009 In the end it's the same idea

    • @abcdefghijklmno1009
      @abcdefghijklmno1009 3 года назад +1

      @@codemy666 The old ground effect tried to redirect all air over the top of the car. This ground effect maneuvers the air that passes under the car to create downforce. It's different.

  • @janph2405
    @janph2405 3 года назад +17

    I really like his videos and insights but goddamn does he take long to get to the point. Without all the repeating this video couldve been done in 3 minutes. He literally explained why the rearwing is shaped like it is in minute 6 out of 7. a little bit frustrating

    • @amjan
      @amjan 3 года назад +1

      Agreed.

    • @mikhailswartz
      @mikhailswartz 3 года назад +1

      😂 Haha! Remeber it's of utmost importance for him to remind you that at some point in his life, he too was a boy racer. Only then does he get to the point. Eventually.

  • @bbbccc9813
    @bbbccc9813 3 года назад

    Im just excited ground effect is back. Late 70s and Early 80s with ground effect gave us one of the most exciting seasons ever. 1982 springs to mind. Im just hoping the new regs repeat the success minus the fatalities ofcourse.

  • @Kualinar
    @Kualinar 3 года назад

    Another way to reduce dirty air would have been to increase the end plates of the rear wing. Imposing that they must extend at least 5cm behind and 7cm above the trailing edge, without any opening less than 15 cm from any part of the wing, would dramatically reduce the vortex. That would also reduce the drag.

  • @tdyerwestfield
    @tdyerwestfield 3 года назад +7

    Waiting for teams to come up with a way to cause more dirty air to slow the cars behind them.

  • @shivalingarajklingaiah705
    @shivalingarajklingaiah705 3 года назад +11

    never gonna give u up reached 1B views

  • @iveDevi007
    @iveDevi007 3 года назад

    5:34 The RedBull looks siiiccckkkkk🔥🔥🔥🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀

  • @RitchieCaron
    @RitchieCaron 2 года назад

    It worked. I'm watching each race again.

  • @guiagaston7273
    @guiagaston7273 3 года назад +3

    It seems I don't agree with most RUclipsrs definition of "radically different"

  • @squeakycupboard2262
    @squeakycupboard2262 3 года назад +3

    I just think that the rear wing just looks so off. When I am looking at the car from the rear, it is just off putting and doesn't look good.

  • @ernanipozza
    @ernanipozza 3 года назад

    Man, you and Chainbear produce THE ABSOLUTE BEST Formula 1 content in RUclips.

  • @jimsmith9912
    @jimsmith9912 2 года назад

    Wow that is very interesting. Brilliant idea. Let's hope it doesn't slow the front driver down. Thanks.

  • @aloter1680
    @aloter1680 3 года назад +4

    I HATE THE REAR WING, it is just awfully looking

    • @mrwn6284
      @mrwn6284 3 года назад +1

      Its not for looks lmao

    • @aloter1680
      @aloter1680 3 года назад

      @@mrwn6284 yes but you can make a good and not ugly car though

    • @mrwn6284
      @mrwn6284 3 года назад +1

      @@aloter1680 well the cars won't look exactly like this and would look much different. This is just a general look. Anyways idk if its even possible to make a rear wing that looks the similar to todays without creating lots of dirty air.

    • @aloter1680
      @aloter1680 3 года назад

      @@mrwn6284 I don't think that they can modify a lot the rear wing.
      But, for me, you can still do an original rear wing that doesn't create dirty air and is not horrible to watch

    • @ASJC27
      @ASJC27 3 года назад

      Agreed. They look like a child's toy car rather than a real race car. IMO it's mostly for looks. They could have stated in the rules maximal dimensions for a small endplate so it would still lose as much downforce as the FIA wants, but not look like a toys-R-us special.

  • @dre5971
    @dre5971 3 года назад +3

    first

  • @MrBEA68
    @MrBEA68 3 года назад

    It’s like a throwback to the Lotus 78 these new cars. Now it’s only a matter of time before some team comes up with a need to cool the engine with, lets say, a huge fan maybe?

  • @devanman7920
    @devanman7920 3 года назад

    I hope they deal with the dirty air problem a bit. You want it the other way around with the person at the front with a disadvantage so we get more overtakes.

  • @jacobringgaardmikkelsen5103
    @jacobringgaardmikkelsen5103 2 года назад

    First i hated the new design. I thought it was only for looks and was decreasing performance. But after i realized it made alot less dirty air, i've stoked for the introduction!

  • @melbguy1
    @melbguy1 3 года назад

    Interesting that ground effects aero is coming back after being banned in 1982. Though it doesn't look like the full ground effects concept as seen in the Lotus 79 and Williams FW07 as moveable skirts aren't allowed

  • @shazzamjf
    @shazzamjf 2 года назад

    1:39 ..When you run out of titanium screws and tell the intern to get some screws from home depot to get the job on your multi-million dollar racecar done 😂👍

  • @andrewturnbull5897
    @andrewturnbull5897 3 года назад

    You are so correct! That is pure genius design! Safer racing and more exciting I’m sure! Beautiful cars as well so it’s all win win!

  • @HexlGaming
    @HexlGaming 3 года назад

    This video is really smooth, espite being filmed in 30fps. I love that!

  • @payarok
    @payarok 2 года назад

    The video was amazing!
    Thanks for good explanation!

  • @markpatterson4917
    @markpatterson4917 2 года назад

    Very good an eye opener. Next year looking very exciting !

  • @xSabir-hc7wj
    @xSabir-hc7wj 2 года назад

    reducing vortexes formed by the tip of the wings will be massive

  • @ProgressIsTheOnlyEvolution
    @ProgressIsTheOnlyEvolution 2 года назад

    Cool video. Makes me more excited to watch next season.

  • @manudlamini6963
    @manudlamini6963 3 года назад

    Thank you so much bro for explaining the importance of what the new f1cars features will bring to the sport can't wait next year!!!!!!!!!!

  • @oosaizoo2989
    @oosaizoo2989 2 года назад

    LMAO they put a y-Planar texture mapping on the tyres XD so pro CGI

  • @dartagnanx1
    @dartagnanx1 3 года назад +1

    Once again, another terrific video! This is top quality!

  • @losu3960
    @losu3960 2 года назад

    Those classic square rear and front wing will miss me a lot

  • @jasmijnariel
    @jasmijnariel 3 года назад +1

    It looks way better. Finally cars looking cool... now engines again

  • @kievmiddeton2656
    @kievmiddeton2656 3 года назад +1

    So in essence, it’s a creative way to simulate the side skirt era with the diffuser 🤔. Can’t wait to see these cars in action #f12022

    • @Meisterbananepinguin
      @Meisterbananepinguin 3 года назад +1

      "You couldn't live woth your own failure, and where did it bring you? Back to me"

  • @jonasjacobsen9702
    @jonasjacobsen9702 2 года назад

    After watching the first three races. We can safely say these cars can follow much easier and the races have been really exciting so far!

  • @MrBignick88
    @MrBignick88 2 года назад

    is this why Nigel Mansell was so fast he had an extra wing below his nose

  • @adryld25
    @adryld25 2 года назад

    That'll also eliminate or reduces the effectiveness of DRS a lot which was an interesting feature but obviously looses a lot of potential when the driver in front is driving defensively. I hope they'll allow more regenerative breaking to further increase electric power and promote even more overtakes. DRS does promote alternative driving lines, which are always interesting to see. Making the cars more similar to one another might reduce drivers options in driving lines which would in turn reduce overtakes... If the effectiveness of longer wheel bases are reduced by reducing side aero, teams with longer cars might have to shorten, making the cars more and more similar

  • @chrism3790
    @chrism3790 2 года назад

    Sounds cool. Wondering about rain, though. It will become almost impossible to drive.

  • @holeshotshane6344
    @holeshotshane6344 3 года назад

    Its officially the most aerodynamically considerate f1 car design