1 Hour of Top Tier Vecna Builds
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- Опубликовано: 24 май 2024
- In this video I'll be looking at Vecnas possible Addon On Combinations and what I percieve to be the best ones and showcasing them! I hope you enjoy
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Thank you Hans for a good backround video while I get ready for court. This is exactly what I needed 😭❤️
My man became a killer 😭
This guy is going to be the next dbd killer 😂
What did bro do 😂
Bro's the next DBD killer DLC💀
Hit up my boy jayoma he got you
00:21 Fly focused build Pt 1
09:41 M1 + flight of the damned focused
20:30 Fly focused build Pt 2
24:17 Mage Hand Focused
32:34 Undetectable early game
39:33 Double Iri Combo
46:19 Presumably stronger build
50:38 Hens is out of service, We are truly sorry for this inconvenience so have a dog as a gift.
I haven’t finished the vid the last one caught me off guard I’m scared to get there.
Edit: oh lol but it was more like 50:52
I hope they buff this character, not enough to overtune him, but enough to make him strong
less self slow, better hitboxes on projectile attack, and maybe something to help with his cooldowns (honestly they could make a bunch of his addons basekit)
The buffs they just shared seem amazing, i think he could move up to a high C to a low B instead of almost D tier.
Honestly the part that bums me out the most about vecna is the fact that they'll most likely make some crazy changes coming out of ptb, without having us test them, and they'll likely be broken/bad changes that we'll have to wait forever to see fixed. Seems like he could be a solid/fun killer but we'll have to see what changes when they release him.
Fortunately the changes all seem good
The reason the mori looks weird is because there isn't a skeleton with their hands on the survivor's face, but the "rip" starts at the top of their head. They should have that back skeleton reach its grubbies around the survivor's head and face and pull down right as the rip starts.
That would make it look SO much better as a whole with basically no other changes
The attempt to make vecna look strong is admirable
2:24
That "No!" took off like 20 years of Hens' lifespan 😂
NO, hens said calmly.
Urban evasion is about to be meta/go crazy against vecna skeletons
I can't wait to see the patch notes, Vecna is incredible but needs a little buff
😅 they're planning on nerfing him
@@aSipOfHemlocktea are there notes out???
@@garrisonmoore1490no he's pulling your chain
@@MrChoobb ahhhhhh my bad lol
@@garrisonmoore1490 you're fine.
Man the Entity really went overkill when it nerfed Vecna
I mean he threatened the entity in one main menu voiceline
@@MrChoobb “You know what? Just for that, I banish you to the void of never ending cooldowns!”
@@Ming_7322 That'll keep him in check
It is basically his choice. Vecna is strongg enough to overpower the entity if he wishes
I don't think I'll be getting this killer unless he gets buffed, without add-ons he's borderline useless with any add-ons but his iridescents he's gimmicky at best, against any decent survivor or swf your never gonna see value from any of these abilities. Rly hope behavior does something to buff him a bit, if they don't I don't see them making much money off this one. I've said before and I'm sure others have too that a killer shouldn't have to rely on add-ons to be effective let alone work at all.
Something interesting I noticed is that you can only see what type of magical items they have if you dispel them first. It could be useful to dispel people just to see what items they have to know what kind of counter play they currently have
His cooldowns are so long, that a team of survivors doing an average genrush could really limit you down to maybe 8 (32 total) casts of all of your abilities; and that's only if the genrush takes 6 minutes, you spam every ability the moment it's available, and you get value out of every use of your ability.
A real genrush will usually take about 4-5 minutes, and it takes only about 2 minutes (TWO USES) of your abilities to get at least 2-3 gens done with "above average" survivors. His cooldowns are horrendous because overall the abilities don't 100% assure a hit every time. Compare this to blight, who gets 5 rushes - 5 chances to inflict damage with his power - and can use his power constantly for both movement and chase. And the cooldown is like, what, 10 seconds to recharge all tokens from 0?
So he'd get around 15-30 rushes a minute, that's 15-30 chances to do damage. With Vecna's power, he'd get maybe 2-3 chances to do damage a minute. At absolute best.
His cooldowns should be cut down to 30 seconds at the MINIMUM to compete with any of the other killers. Right now, even with the best addons, I rate Vecna in F tier, below Ghost Face for sure. At least Ghost Face has stealth and the potential for some legitimate pressure on the right maps, Vecna has to be a God at DBD to pressure good survivors at all. I'd say in terms of lethality, he's also below Myers, because Myers could Tombstone his way into C Tier. Is he worse than Trapper? Maybe.
27:17 the Skeletons didn't steal your STBFL Stacks!
Yeah it only counts when a basic attack is thrown
Dispelling Sphere specifically would be lovely if it had a buff. It really feels like it needs SOME kind of niche offensive capability, since Vecna often uses all 3 of the other spells offensively and Dispelling Sphere ends up as the last one not on cooldown.
Something like "Survivors drop their held item" or "reveals a survivor's magic items on the HUD PERMANENTLY until the survivor picks up a new magic item" or "Survivor can no longer see your red stain". Doesn't have to be strong, just something that's worth it to use in chase on a survivor you know you'll hit.
It would also be really cool if it had some extra, more niche effects. Like "Dispelling Sphere dispels boon totems that it passes through. Hex Totems will visually appear as normal totems (not on fire) to survivors for 60 seconds after the Sphere passes it."
Btw the mage hand is far stronger than most people give it credit due to how it interacts with survivors interacting with a pallet. If you cast it RIGHT when a survivor drops it they get stuck in the animation and you get a free hit (like a scuffed nemi tentacle) and if you cast it RIGHT when they vault it they end up on the side they were trying to vault from giving a free hit.
Oh I should mention you need the "increase pallet lifting speed" addon to do both of these techs
The injured Sable hiding inside of the projection 20:15 idk if he didn't realize or let her rock.
It happened again at 54:02. The big tell is that you can hear the survivor's repair sounds.
@@YumlickI get blind at times wit killer like this too he missed it
My personal favourite use of dispelling sphere is when an artifact is in play, I almost strictly used Vorpal sword so if I hooked a survivor who had an artifact, I would cast a sphere towards the hook to prevent a heal and therefore prevent the use of the artifact. Also the pallet break.
Nice. Lore accurate use as well, to dispel the enchantments
Him showing the perks that are mentioned mid gameplay is a godsend, thank you so much!
I once again will say: I find yellow addon for Flight hillarious. Because all spells besides Flight has a 2 sec slowdown after casting. But Flight has 2.5 sec slowdown. And yoellow addon simply removes this 0.5 seconds, and makes Flight slowdowm equal to all other spells. It feels like BHVR did basic Flight slowdown longer on purpose, just to sold you a solution in the form of addon
Idk why they didn’t realise he would be underpowered
They're better off weak in ptb than strong in ptb. People will whine and get them nerfed to d tier if they pose a threat. Live will fix and they can't complain
@@MrChoobb they clearly will complain post-release seeing as chucky and wesker are both getting nerfed in the next patch.
That's the point of a ptb dude.
@@CrystalMang0 I know , you should point out flaws. This is why it's not just released instantly
@@cinatiropel it’s so fucking annoying, survivors just get stronger and stronger meanwhile they nerf most good killers to the point they’re unplayable.
Survivors having borrowed time by default to prevent tunnelling, but killers don’t get something like deadlock by default to prevent genrushing
i think the reason the skeletons dont use up STBFL stacks is because the default mode of vecnas power is magehand which does not count as a damaging ability, i am intrigued if he would also not loose play with your food stacks
This is a killer build for survivor fun. A million counters to all its abilities. Can't see myself bothering to buy it.
Are you saying it isn't fun to get 4 different powers on killer?
@@Goneth If they all suck and are easily countered, and just exist to give survivors some fun screwing the killer, then yes.
With a few tweaks of his addons this could be a very good killer. Most of playing him is how good is your base killer since the base powers are mostly to safe.
I think one of the best builds is a combo of the iri that adds broken and mage hand break with either the mage hand cooldown addon or the flight cooldown addon for easier zoning hits. Nasty combo.
Yeah I’m very hyped for vecna. I feel like he he needs a bit of minor buffs but either way I’m excited to get my hands on him. He release just after my birthday too
Just a Little cooldown buff and less slow down, maybe make the skeleton groud level base kit and he Is a solid A tier
@@mindofshadow1780 low skeletons always is game-breaking, its like if artist crows always damages
@@tinymicrowave6821 Artist crows don't have a 45s cooldown tho
@@JUGGERNAUT5007U doesn’t make a GUARANTEED HIT fair
@@tinymicrowave6821not even remotely guaranteed with how much it fans out not to mention the loud noise cue, letting survivors crouch under it makes it a guaranteed miss unless the survivors simply don’t know about it
Vecna feels weird and almost like he has the same issue that Chucky has/had. When all of his powers are off cooldown its pretty easy to just force a hit and there's almost nothing the survivor can do about it, but when his powers are on cooldown your just a normal M1 killer. Its never fun to get hit because the game put you in an unwinnable situation and its never fun to just chase survivors waiting for your power to come back up because without it you can't really do anything.
I feel like a fun addon for mage hand is that when you pull a pallet up it also holds it for a couple seconds
Oof, that bug at the end 59:14 getting stuck in the boat after using Fly hopefully gets reported so they can fix that before it goes live. Nice vid Hans!
are you planning to do a full killer tierlist for the new patch when it comes out?
Knight is the only killer i know who doesnt lose stacks with his power. I think every other active power makes you lose your stacks. Trapper i think would also no make you lose it. Trcikerer and slinger might have gotten the biggest hit of the nerf.
being able to crouch the ghosts is crazy
Misspelled you put cr instead of L
heres hoping he gets some buffs
Dispelling sphere needs to get its slow down removed and the hand as well. The hand is kind of useless in 90% of loops because if you use it they just hold w for 1 more loop because you slow down so much
@@llthk138how can u possibly say the hand isnt good when it gets him a hit like 75% of the time in this video
@@momoaathat's because they camp the pallet, people just loop it till the hands gone because you slower than my grampa
0:25 I know somebody’s probably gonna nerd emoji me but technically it reduces the cooldown by 0.5 if it reduced it by -0.5 that’s a double negative and would mean it adds half a second to the cooldown.
good catch lol
lets go hans upload!! ^^
God this guy’s voice really feels like one of the dwarf ghoul😻
Hey, do u thing 5 seconds lesser cooldown on abilities would do the justice?
Cant have watched the full video yet but it IS just an hour of Dead by Daylight so I am surely okay to say 'good video' already
I feel like they need to make the spells more impactful, so that survivors need to get magic items to win. Maybe just removing most slow downs and wind downs from his spells could work. right now vecna just seems like a killer that doesn't have any way to prevent gens popping or apply pressure, and chase-wise he can _sometimes_ get a hit if he times his abilities perfectly. really fun killer, but indeed feels on the weak side
he has 4 different abilities how could he possibly be on the weak side? if you’ve watched this video you can tell he’s not gonna be weak. just wait until hes released..
You can’t force the Survivors to get items to counter the spells because there are four spells and only two item slots. This would mean that any time any of the two spells you can’t collect an item for are off cooldown, you’re guaranteed to take a hit to him whenever he uses them. This is the exact reason why they’re removing Chucky’s Scamper in this very patch - they don’t want powers that are guaranteed to land hits when they are activated because that would feel awful
Id disagree. all his spells can have a huge impact if used correctly, hes just complicated and not as single-minded as wesker for example (even though he also has a lot of tech). you need to give ppl time. for example: figure out on which tiles under which circumstances you get certain hits with magehand etc.
This is a team based game u aint supposeed to 1vs1 the killer if they gave u magical items the killer power should be strong @Bunbunnyny
@@dooony3741 bubby, little bubba, Hens himself says he's weak. EVERYONE that's played him knows he's weak.
But be my guest - no one will play Vecna when he releases, killer mains will continue to use the same tested old killers that actually get results.
I wonder if they're going to slightly buff Vecna before release, I'm worried he'll become too strong if they do that
11:43 Brother, when you activate the ability of the flying entities, notice that you do not lose badges when hitting the obsession 😮
putting vecba in d tier is wild he is the best killer i ever played
The strongest part of Vecna’s power is locker teleportation and invisibility
Mandella effect: This man was hens
Overall make his cooldown 70% faster and that’s his biggest weakness gone, then you can slightly tweak each ability to balance properly.
Would the hand be okay if it breaks the pallets when its down but slower than it does currently and then leave how it works now for when a pallet is up
Do you think Vecna will be able to get into the next Invitational Tournament? Would love to see that.
I need an opinion from the community on my vecna build idea
Perks: Pain res, Surge, STBFL, and one free perk for whatever you feel like putting there.
Addons: The yellow one that reduces fly recovery time and the green addon that reduces spell cooldown on hits (which is what STBFL is for, its also just a fun perk to use imo)
Is this build any good? Or should i scrap the whole idea?
Still think that even after the buffs they should make the flight of the dammed spell uncrouchable, like imo it’s already easy enough to dodge without crouching so making it uncrouchable wouldn’t make him some broken killer.
11:05 How do you know he doesn't have the anti-Flight of the Damned item? As best as I can tell both the boots and the gauntlets can be an anti-spell of any type, and it only tells you that they have boots or gauntlets equipped unless you hit them with the Dispelling Sphere?
In fact, at 12:07 you can see the Flight of the Damned icon take the place of Yun-Jin's gauntlets when she's tagged by the Sphere, and you can see it until it wears off at 12:52 at which point it just shows she has a gauntlet again. And at 13:34 we can see Jonathan does actually have the 'see the auras of the Flying Entities' effect on his gauntlets. And at 14:54 you can see where he switches to the Fly gauntlets instead.
the highlighted items on UI is counter item to the spell you have equipped.
@@dodang_9147 No it's not? They get highlighted on the UI when there's a state change, like healing or an injury, because it's part of that UI. In the first match you can see the Sable has the Mage Hand and Flight of the Damned counter items equipped at 5:21 and 7:56. You can see at 7:02 when Hens changes to Mage Hand that the boots, or any part, don't light up while the information is hidden, and you can see at 8:02 when he switches to Flight of the Damned that it doesn't light up when the information is visible.
the only thing vecna really needs is his skulls should be on like a 20/25 second cooldown. they're not strong enough to warrant a full minute cooldown.
Can you also please show what the perks do at the beginning of a build? I'm a new player, and I'm still not quite sure what they all do. It would be greatly appreciated.❤
Coupe de gra would be amazing!!
He's *soooo* much fun, but yeah some of the slowdowns and cooldowns are just a tiny bit too much. Should be easy to tune though!
Flipside....not too sure the killer perks are salvageable.... The survivor ones seem at least amusing enough to run.
I think another thing to note is he will only get weaker and weaker as survivors learn to identify his addons, which power he's focusing on, and how to utilize the magic items that counter that power....
Will windows get bamboozled when you fly through them?
hello, question (im a viewer and not a player 😊) how is it possible that you have two different moris? i saw the long and dramatic one and then there was also a very short quick one, both in the same game (the 2nd one) how does that work? thx!!
i also have a general question about the game, as i dont play i dont understand this mechanic. sometimes you see killers grab a survivor as they are in the middle of vaulting or grabbing them off a gen. (used to be able to grab off unhooking but i know thats changed). is this base kit for all killers? or some type of offering? like what are the circumstances for it to work, and why do you so rarely see it? are there pros and cons of grabbing vs basic/special attack?
tysm to anyone who answers these questions, i always appreciate the players who help me learn!!
1st question:it's cuz he has a mori add on for the long one and for the short one it's vecna specific as when a survivor is death hook and has either eye or hand of vecna he can do that mori
2nd question the grab is base kit for all killers when a survivors repairing a gen or slow vault if you tap m1 button not hold you can grab them instantly kinda harder to do at times do to needing to surprise em or be timing perfect so it's why sometime you don't see it unless playing a stealth killer mostly or survivors fuck up bad
@@shadowpeople2645 oh okay, that makes sense! thank u so much for answering both questions, i appreciate it
Has anyone else noticed that you can’t look down or up to avoid flashlights in the PTB. Idk if it was just Vecna, a shadow buff, or a bug.
bug
Make the skeletons like this:
High, loe, high, low, high, low
Can crouch if you get itni the right spot
The iri add on actually reduces skeltons by 3, not to 3, so it leaves you with only 2. Really odd stuff.
The Mage Hand should be basekit as seen at 25:32, without add-ons, its absolutely awful to use 99% of the time due to the ridiculous slowdown (at least imo).
Edit: either that, or blocking a pallet needs to last longer because the hand disappears way too quickly. The other abilities slowdowns also feel bad, but Mage Hand is the most outstanding one in that regard (again, at least imo).
27:23 Obsession lost a health state but you didn't lose any stacks. Are they reverting the nerf?
Just wait till you hear about the Lamort Tech :3
They drop the cool down time down 10-15 seconds he will be fun
So you switch skills while chasing
If you haven't noticed which I'm sure you haven't save the best for last was unaffected when the obsession was attacked by skeletons
The 3 skelly addon less loops more huntress
Istg they NEEEEEEED to remove the slowdown on magehand it negates the entire use of the ability cuz survs can just loop you again and its gone
Yes. Either make the duration longer or no slowdown whatsoever.
They need to lower his cool downs to 30 sec, the killer should be able to use his power every chase and if the chase goes longer than 30 sec, should be fair to use it the second time. Other killers can use their M2 more often at this point. He might be B tier with 30 sec cooldowns. If they reduce the slowdowns, it might even make him A tier.
Does it seem like Vecna here in the PTB has built in Enduring? He seems to recover rather quickly from pallet stuns.
No. It is the same recovery speed.
Just broken animation due to him not looking down as he is stunned
Isnt Vecna stun duration is lower, than other killers? Kinda seems like this
Stbfl is really good for Freddy
they keep making viscous killers with literally inescapable powers but wb us :,) as a meg main :send help
the fact these "Top Tier Builds" We see not only show how add-on dependent he is but how bad He is at killing survivors. The fact almost every game I see so many survivors almost have 4 or 3 of them make it to end game says a lot about his lethality.
I am not even saying he should be always team destroying but Look at how the survivors deal with his power then what Hans Has to do to use his power and make it effective in the match itself and at times he either misses it or the survivor makes a good play or has DH or D.S or something to waste more of his time. a lot of other killers don't tend to struggle in that department as much as I have seen Vecna SO FAR. When Unknown came out Almost every video or showcase he holds a lot of control sometimes a bad match here or there but a good amount of his add-ons don't feel like a bandaid fix over the characters flaws.
Its like a weird mix of Singularity where they come up with a lot of cool ideas but they hold back on the killer so much in fear of them being op. But like...even at this point the devs should know how bad or very situational his tools are because every add-on either does 1 tiny thing that can happen in a match or makes him feel less Clunky to play. Its so weird man.
Every time I think about giving DBD another chance I look up what's new and get so intimidated I don't bother going through guides or playing at all. Abilities of killers seemed confusing and chases were really hard for me to survive back when these crazy new perks and killers weren't around. I watch this here video and think: this is cool and all to watch but how would I go against this?! Fat chance :D I played for about over 200 hours back in the day and never managed to survive doctor so If I get to go against these new ones its game over for me. I'ma just... watch some gameplay from time to time and I'm good :D But the game changed so much right after I left its crazy :0
Wish some of his addons gave different spells or swapped them out with some of the plethora in D&D.
Use Lethal Pursuer for the second build instead of surge
Fun fact: that knife is in yhe game but this is it's only appearance
midna best builds😈
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I like Vecna in Dungeons and Dragons as a concept, but I feel like he is not good as a dbd killer.
This almost blocks us out for the stranger things version, and dnd offers so many other possibly better choices.
Regardless im gonna try him out and play him, he looks fun still, it’s just we could have had so much more and better
In the tier list around 0:05 who is that Gimli-looking fool in S tier between Nurse and Blight?
max thompson
@@arararararysjr
i think most peoples issue with this killer is because theyre using fly wrong. fly is not meant for use in chase use like yellow clown bottles and have permanent haste when not in chase. same with the ball. it isnt meant for use in chase.
Trapper padded jaws
24:06 The Artist again
Why does vecna look like an overwatch character in the thumbnail😂
to me vecna is really close to being super balanced
does bamboozle worrk with fly? (most likely not) but I'd love if it did
i think I have seen a video with it working not 100% sure though
@@johnwallen-rw9znit doesn't that was his iri addon
I was watching a video of yours and then just stopped working and I try to pull it up again and it's no longer there whoops
Where is the showcase against top tier teams?
idk man it seems like the survivors could have avoided a lot of the hits that you were showcasing if they played cleaner.
hard to find ur channel...
When is this chapter dropping?
June 3
I genuinely do not know how you fix him. Even with better cooldowns, his powers just aren't very good. Mage hand is so weird because its either timed to have no counterplay, or be too slow to be useful, I dont see a middle ground
d tier-na best setup 💀🙏
Is it just me, or does it almost look like he has a minor basekit enduring? Unless Vecna's stun animation is bugged or something
It's same length but his animation is a bit faster than normal but he's stunned abit after animation
@@MrChoobb ahhhhh, so that's what it is. I appreciate the explanation homie
Cool
*Cries in console.*
The fly addon was useless. You cancelled it without using the extra 1 sec almost every time.
9:27 bro feng got her sibling on the door
Stbfl is still insane on clown and hag! Its also good on all of the M1 killers like wraith or Sadako