Hi Jim. I recently took the plunge into Luminar Neo after a lifetime of servitude to another well known editing suite! Got to say, so far so good and this transition has been made easier by your excellent RUclips tutorials. Thank you for sharing your skills and knowledge.
Hi Jim..if it wasn't for your slides with details on the pricing structure, I'd be totally confused...so, thank you for that. You're the best at explaining how all that works. And the discount code helped too!!
Well, I'd say anyone who bought a "lifetime" pass should expect that to mean more than a year or two. I love Luminar, but they need a naming scheme that's more honest about some of these upgrades.
Remember when Luminar was touted as the alternative to LR because you didn't have to be subscribed to a service to receive quality updates on software you purchased? Pepperidge Farm remembers.
It’s about time they brought back the filmstrip in the editing tab 🤦♀️ Excited fo finally get some more updates though! Thanks for the informative video, as always.
I do like Luminar Neo and it's part of my usual workflow. However, I begin to think that they bring new "improvements" that exist in other platforms, which should be as a free update. I don't know how the race for cash Skylum is going after is a so good news regarding the sustainability of their business model... This being said, Jim, thanks again for bringing these news to our attention.
Thanks for watching and they have brought out a number of additions that are free. But of course they need to support themselves, so some features you have to pay for. Unless you have a subscription, in which case you get everything.
@@JimNix As a photo editor it simply isn't in the same league as PS/LR/C1. Too slow in comparison and too reliant on presets. For sky replacement it's my goto but for everything else nah!
I was hoping you were going to say that they introduced batch rename and keywording. Those are things I have to use in my workflow. I REALLY want to get rid of Lightroom and use Neo, but I can't. With all the amazing technology, would it be difficult to offer these two basic features?
Yeah good question and I hope these get added in the future, but I wouldn't expect them this year. And to be clear, I don't know if/when they will be added. But keywords are especially needed IMHO.
@JimNix I love the way Neo processes images on import MUCH better than LR, and it would be an amazing part of my workflow and save me time, but I'm going to have to give up 2 of the 3 software subscriptions I have. Neo is one of them, unfortunately, just because of this 😕. Maybe I'll come back in the future if they implement these features. Thanks for posting these videos, though!! I'll keep watching them.
A hint and a comment... Hint - I recently discovered Power rename that's part of the Windows PowerTools utilities, that might help with renamed. And the question: if the star ratings are only "inside luminar" does that mean within the current catalog? To make luminar more manageable I have multiple catalogs, ideally I'd like to be able to find images across all my catalogs. Do you know (or can you ask) if the star ratings will be written to exported files…? PS thanks for all the videos
Yeah that's a good idea but I'm not using Mylio much these days and won't be making a video like this. But Mylio does a whole lot more and is a different product, really. A good one, for sure.
Jim - You keep me coming back to Luminar. Arguably, Skylum does make their software & licenses somewhat confusing. You do a good job of helping us understand what's what. But to confirm, existing NEO software owners will get, FOR FREE, Catalog Filtering, Virtual Copies, Star Ratings and the FIlmstrip in editing, but will NOT get Color Transfer, Color Masking, & Smart Search without paying (lifetime, short term subscription etc)?? TIA
Sky replace is currently spectacular and I use it ALL THE TIME, especislly for birds in flight. Now I want a full background replace that works just as good. Photoshop does a good job of identifying the forground object and then proceeds to do an awful job of masking the image. This leaves me with a lot of work to finish masking the object so I cam replace the background. I believe Luminar could get this right.
@@colingrant325 perhaps it’s the translucence of the birds feathers that’s causing it to have problems creating the mask. I don’t know but I end up having to do a lot of work to fix the mask.
Hi jim, I just purchased Luminar Neo. Could you let me know if this software can convert black and white photos to color? If so, please advise me on how to do it.
I have a basic lifetime license and it's everything i need to improve my Photos.....i think applying all these add-ons creates an obvious artificial photo scene....
Hi there. I shared a link in the description. If you click that and log into your account, you will see the offer. Also note you can use my coupon code JIMNIX to save $10. Thanks.
Jim, I’m sorry. All these edits seem like Luminar is continuing to catch-up to Lightroom (filmstrip, filtering, star rating, virtual copies, etc). Yes, there seem to be a few unique features. I hope they continue to push forward putting pressure on Adobe. Love the smart search capability.
I For one am happy to see Luminar develop as a competitor to Lightroom and Photoshop - first by replicating the most useful features, and then by expanding upon them. If this new upgrades fills in some missing features such as color masking and color matching, then great. Keep it up ! IHMO Neo already has some things that are better than Photoshop - such as Relight and Sunrays. Maybe the Neo implementation of these features will be better, maybe worse - please keep an open mind until you can try them. Finally, please make a list of what features you would like added to Neo and forward them to Jim. Customer feedback can be powerful !
@@Billwzw Lr light years in front of Luminar - it is an end to end raw processor for a start and its masking is far superior as is its dam. With Ps on the side it does all that Luminar can do plus a lot more. How can Jim influence the development of Luminar?
@@Billwzw Thank-you. I agree. Luminar developing into a better version of Lightroom would be helpful to a lot of people. Frankly, my biggest issue with Luminar is not its ability to edit images. It is about managing the images. I love to go out and take pictures. I use a variety of cameras, including the iPhone. Sometimes several of us go out. We rely on Lightroom's ability to manage images. Digital Asset Management features are critical. Being able to see folders as they are on the various volumes, using the common folder interface of indented lists, moving images across folders, moving subfolders, keeping images and catalog on a NAS, culling images easily, identifying duplicates, collections based on keyword, Ai generated keywords, deleting images en masse, etc. That would make the cost of switching worthwhile.
Yes their catalog is behind LR but these are the right steps to start catching up (and they need more, admittedly). But it's a great start. And of course there are some amazing editing tools in Luminar that are unique/different/better than LR. It just depends on what you like and/or need from an editor.
@@JimNix Jim, yes. They are making great progress. I'm just offering, hopefully constructively, what I need/want in Luminar if I am going to use Luminar instead of Lightroom.
Does color transfer work in the cloud on locally on the computer? Is this a pay per use feature or does it get unlimited use once you have a proper license?
Would be good if they worked on improving what they already have such as the sharpen and noise ai. They are ok but not a patch on other software available.
I am currently working with ON1 Photo RAW 2024 and still within the 30 days money back quarantee. The only reason I chose ON1 was because of the better library manager. but I can't get used to the editor interface. Also I don't like that ON1 makes an XMP and ON1 file for every picture instead of using a catalog. What do you recommend now that Luminar NEO is coming wih this new Fall upgrade? Will the library manager from the new Luminar update be a big improvement? Will they implement an import module so you can easily decide which photo's to import?
i don't understand why do i need to pay for something new if i am a lifetime buyer. I bought that because i don't want any subscription model. I expect free updates of my software at least for some time ( a year or 3-4 major updates).
No software provides that. What you purchased is a license to use the software you purchased for as long as your computer will run it. You did not purchase the a lifetime right to upgrades.
I am very anti-subscription, but in the old days you'd buy the latest version of software when it was released, so this is no different. See it as 'Luminar Neo 2024'.
@@kristiangodfrey6139 I am not anti subscription if it means the software keeps up with the game, it is the only realistic business model for a software house imo. Neo is miles behind the competition so in this case the subscription counts for nothing really other than lining the pockets of a company that is not up to speed.
With a lifetime license, you have access to the version you bought as long as your computer supports it. And you are getting some free updates with this version, but you don't get every new feature every time something new comes out.
@@JimNix My 3-month old laptop has integrated graphics, not a stand-alone graphic card. I ran into a problem recently with a program that wouldn't recognize that and couldn't upgrade (they have since resolved that problem!). Not everyone can afford the latest and greatest hardware. Some of us have to buy what we can afford. ;) I was just curious if they'd sent you the hardware requirements, along with the other stuff.
@@fenraven oh I see, thanks for clarifying. They did not share any info about tech requirements. I doubt they have changed, but your best bet is to email their support team just in case. If it is running fine for you now, it seems like it would continue to run with these new features. But their support team should know. Thanks.
So what stops Skylum from changing the name from Neo to something else therefore making the lifetime purchase not such a good deal. I was a user and liked the earlier versions (Luminar 3 and 4) and features were promised but instead they Stopped supporting those versions and changed to another name. I am thinking about buying the lifetime but am hesitant.
As I said above, Lifetime means you own THAT version, the one you bought, forever. It does not mean upgrades and updates for free forever. Also, it's been Luminar Neo almost 3 years now so I'm pretty confident they're committed to this product.
The updates al look good but I still have issues with the “Catalog”. All my photos are on an external SSD. I wish, light Lightroom, I could just work from the file structure instead of creating “Catalogs”. That is so confusing. Even ON1 does that as well.
You do understand that Lightroom is a catalog too right? They work exactly the same way. You just add your images from the existing folder and file structure.
@@DigitalPhotoMentor I just done get it. With LR (cloud know also Local) and ON1 I can browse all my photos on an external drive that has folders and sub-folders. I understand a “catalog” or even several Catalogs. I would like, again, to see all my files and subfolder contained in my external drive with all my folders (while editing). I hope I’m making sense. I have not been able to do that with Lumina and its catalog. I seem to have to make all kinds of Catalogs.
@@skyking95 That's not 100% accurate. In order for LR to "Browse" your photos you have to import them just like you do into Luminar. LR will not see any images or folders that are not imported. So if you want to "see" all your folders inside Luminar you have to add them to Luminar.
@@DigitalPhotoMentor THanks. BTW, I did pay already for the Fall update as it look pretty good. BTW, I’m not using LR Classic, I mess with LR that was originally LR CC but now you can draw from a hard drive, external drive etc. No Catalog. Edits are saved via an attached file like what ON1 does. Thanks again.
I lifetime license means you pay one time and you own THAT version of that product forever. You never have to pay again but you do NOT get lifetime updates for free. No company can do that. It's not sustainable.
I am trying out Luminar Neo in free trial mode at the moment as my present favourite On1 Photo Raw doesn't like my integrated graphics card. I'm struggling to get the same results, but I expect that is down to needing more experience in Luminar Neo. One thing I am noticing is that if I save a file in Neo and On1 with the same pixels and dpi the file saved with Luminar Neo is well over twice the size. Is that your experience too, or am I doing something wrong?
It is a shame that xmp data and sidecars set in other applications is still ignored. Until then Luminar is basically only working with tiff and jpg files for me since I flag / rate /keyword my images in other applications and do not want to loose them when editing in Luminar.
Cheers for the info Jim, I just cancelled my subscription. I don't use the AI gen stuff and there is nothing new that I need. Anything that Neo cannot do, On1 can do so mixing and matching between the two. The version i have works for me 👍
Hey no worries at all, I'm a firm believer that if you have a product that you like to edit with, you should use it. No one needs to have everything, that's for sure.
If you don't pay, it goes away.. just like adobe. In the fine print, those who bought a lifetime license, if we upgrade we only get the generative AI features until Jan 2026. Then you have to pay again to have those features. You have to read the fine print because the don't tell you up front. A sneaky way to get you started in subscription, because the AI stuff is not included in the lifetime license. If I wanted subscription or for my features to go away if I don't pay, I would go Adobe. I have not upgraded in a few years because I don't use Neo that much any more. The "AI" masking stuff was never very good. and the sky replacement always left artifacts. I am pretty much over upgrading Neo. No tool is perfect but this one has been very imperfect for a long time. The updates are not worth the price of admission and some of them go away after a year. No thanks, On1 is not perfect either but it works pretty good. But it is always good to watch your videos. It helps me make decisions on what to buy and what not to buy.
That's not correct to my knowledge. If you stop paying you get to keep the last version you had when you stopped your subscription. That's the answer I was given when my students asked.
@@DigitalPhotoMentor It is correct what I said. It is true, that if you get the upgrade, it will continue to work if you don't pay to upgrade again. Except for the Generative AI, read the fine print on the website, it is there but you have to go to the bottom of a long web page and dig for it.
So still no key-wording or decent metadata support, in fact still no real dam? Neo is getting left further and further behind. Colour range masking is nothing great - it has been around for ages in the competition. You are flogging a dead horse, Jim. Sorry.
Hi Colin, I appreciate the feedback and we can agree to disagree. The catalog/DAM is behind LR for sure, but these are steps in the right direction which are needed, but it's not even with LR yet. From an editing point of view, I believe Luminar works just as well with some unique/different/better tools than LR. And I love LR, and make some vids about it. It's a great product too. If you don't like Luminar, that's cool and no worries.
I have been using NEO since it came out.I have learned so much from your videos.Jim, you are the best!
oh thanks so much, I appreciate the kind words!
Hi Jim. I recently took the plunge into Luminar Neo after a lifetime of servitude to another well known editing suite! Got to say, so far so good and this transition has been made easier by your excellent RUclips tutorials. Thank you for sharing your skills and knowledge.
thanks so much for watching, I appreciate it and glad you are finding them helpful!
Hi Jim..if it wasn't for your slides with details on the pricing structure, I'd be totally confused...so, thank you for that. You're the best at explaining how all that works. And the discount code helped too!!
thank you and glad that helped!
Cue the malcontents: "I purchased Luminar in 2015! I should get this for free!"
Thanks for the update.
LOL that's funny
Well, I'd say anyone who bought a "lifetime" pass should expect that to mean more than a year or two. I love Luminar, but they need a naming scheme that's more honest about some of these upgrades.
Remember when Luminar was touted as the alternative to LR because you didn't have to be subscribed to a service to receive quality updates on software you purchased? Pepperidge Farm remembers.
Same here!
Thanks
jim nix is my idol in terms of landscape. no other than him
you're very kind, thank you!
Can't wait for this Jim!
I'm pretty excited as well! 😀
Color range masks is exactly what I asked them to add in their next update. This should be a good one. Thanks Jim.
I'm excited about that as well, thanks!
Thanks Jim - your overview is appreciated
thanks for watching Kit!
Thanks Jim for this first overview of the forth coming Neo update. Looking forward to when you get your hands on a Beta copy.
thanks Ken and yes I am eager to test these features out for sure!
Great Job Jim as always!!!!!!!!!!!!!
thank you for watching!
Glad to see catalog enhancements coming. I'll remain cautiously optimistic. Thanks for the update.
thanks for watching Mark!
Thx for the discount code again, Jim. Looking forward to your great videos about the new features. Greetings from the Netherlands.
thank you so much, I appreciate it and yes more videos coming for sure
It’s about time they brought back the filmstrip in the editing tab 🤦♀️
Excited fo finally get some more updates though! Thanks for the informative video, as always.
yep everyone is glad to have the filmstrip, and thanks for watching!
Wow! Even more fun colour stuff! Tick!
haha yes indeed!
I do like Luminar Neo and it's part of my usual workflow. However, I begin to think that they bring new "improvements" that exist in other platforms, which should be as a free update. I don't know how the race for cash Skylum is going after is a so good news regarding the sustainability of their business model... This being said, Jim, thanks again for bringing these news to our attention.
Thanks for watching and they have brought out a number of additions that are free. But of course they need to support themselves, so some features you have to pay for. Unless you have a subscription, in which case you get everything.
I have Luminar but rarely use it. Not a patch on PS/LR/C1. Ok for sky replacement but that's it.
Sky replacment is good but not sure what you mean by not a patch on PS etc?
@@JimNix As a photo editor it simply isn't in the same league as PS/LR/C1. Too slow in comparison and too reliant on presets. For sky replacement it's my goto but for everything else nah!
Nice updates for spot color masking and virtual copies. Still looking for a more solid catalog function
thanks Dave and yes I am hopeful this indicates continued development of the catalog function in the future - we will see!
I was hoping you were going to say that they introduced batch rename and keywording. Those are things I have to use in my workflow. I REALLY want to get rid of Lightroom and use Neo, but I can't. With all the amazing technology, would it be difficult to offer these two basic features?
Yeah good question and I hope these get added in the future, but I wouldn't expect them this year. And to be clear, I don't know if/when they will be added. But keywords are especially needed IMHO.
@JimNix I love the way Neo processes images on import MUCH better than LR, and it would be an amazing part of my workflow and save me time, but I'm going to have to give up 2 of the 3 software subscriptions I have. Neo is one of them, unfortunately, just because of this 😕. Maybe I'll come back in the future if they implement these features.
Thanks for posting these videos, though!! I'll keep watching them.
@@robertmccutchan5450 sorry to hear that but I understand you have to do what your workflow requires, and hopefully you can come back in the future
A hint and a comment... Hint - I recently discovered Power rename that's part of the Windows PowerTools utilities, that might help with renamed. And the question: if the star ratings are only "inside luminar" does that mean within the current catalog? To make luminar more manageable I have multiple catalogs, ideally I'd like to be able to find images across all my catalogs. Do you know (or can you ask) if the star ratings will be written to exported files…? PS thanks for all the videos
Can't wait to see the comparison video pertaining: Cataloging between &/or with both Neo vs Mylio pros & cons
Yeah that's a good idea but I'm not using Mylio much these days and won't be making a video like this. But Mylio does a whole lot more and is a different product, really. A good one, for sure.
Jim - You keep me coming back to Luminar. Arguably, Skylum does make their software & licenses somewhat confusing. You do a good job of helping us understand what's what. But to confirm, existing NEO software owners will get, FOR FREE, Catalog Filtering, Virtual Copies, Star Ratings and the FIlmstrip in editing, but will NOT get Color Transfer, Color Masking, & Smart Search without paying (lifetime, short term subscription etc)?? TIA
thanks much Todd and yes you are correct
Awesome video, thanks.
thanks so much!
I am very excited for these upgrades! Especially the color selection and star rating. Thanks Jim ❤and finally virtual copies!!!!
thanks and yes so cool stuff coming soon!
Sky replace is currently spectacular and I use it ALL THE TIME, especislly for birds in flight. Now I want a full background replace that works just as good. Photoshop does a good job of identifying the forground object and then proceeds to do an awful job of masking the image. This leaves me with a lot of work to finish masking the object so I cam replace the background. I believe Luminar could get this right.
I don't see that behaviour, Ps behaves just fine.
@@colingrant325 perhaps it’s the translucence of the birds feathers that’s causing it to have problems creating the mask. I don’t know but I end up having to do a lot of work to fix the mask.
Hi jim, I just purchased Luminar Neo. Could you let me know if this software can convert black and white photos to color? If so, please advise me on how to do it.
I have a basic lifetime license and it's everything i need to improve my Photos.....i think applying all these add-ons creates an obvious artificial photo scene....
No worries, you certainly aren't required to get the latest if you don't need these tools.
Hi Jim...I bought the lifetime before July, what to I need to do to upgrade my lifetime account?
Hi there. I shared a link in the description. If you click that and log into your account, you will see the offer. Also note you can use my coupon code JIMNIX to save $10. Thanks.
Re: virtual copy. I f I make a change to the virtual copy, will it change the original photo also?
Good question and I do not know yet if it is bi-directional. Once I have it I can test it out. Thanks.
Jim, I’m sorry. All these edits seem like Luminar is continuing to catch-up to Lightroom (filmstrip, filtering, star rating, virtual copies, etc). Yes, there seem to be a few unique features. I hope they continue to push forward putting pressure on Adobe. Love the smart search capability.
I For one am happy to see Luminar develop as a competitor to Lightroom and Photoshop - first by replicating the most useful features, and then by expanding upon them. If this new upgrades fills in some missing features such as color masking and color matching, then great. Keep it up ! IHMO Neo already has some things that are better than Photoshop - such as Relight and Sunrays.
Maybe the Neo implementation of these features will be better, maybe worse - please keep an open mind until you can try them.
Finally, please make a list of what features you would like added to Neo and forward them to Jim. Customer feedback can be powerful !
@@Billwzw Lr light years in front of Luminar - it is an end to end raw processor for a start and its masking is far superior as is its dam. With Ps on the side it does all that Luminar can do plus a lot more. How can Jim influence the development of Luminar?
@@Billwzw Thank-you. I agree. Luminar developing into a better version of Lightroom would be helpful to a lot of people. Frankly, my biggest issue with Luminar is not its ability to edit images. It is about managing the images. I love to go out and take pictures. I use a variety of cameras, including the iPhone. Sometimes several of us go out. We rely on Lightroom's ability to manage images. Digital Asset Management features are critical. Being able to see folders as they are on the various volumes, using the common folder interface of indented lists, moving images across folders, moving subfolders, keeping images and catalog on a NAS, culling images easily, identifying duplicates, collections based on keyword, Ai generated keywords, deleting images en masse, etc. That would make the cost of switching worthwhile.
Yes their catalog is behind LR but these are the right steps to start catching up (and they need more, admittedly). But it's a great start. And of course there are some amazing editing tools in Luminar that are unique/different/better than LR. It just depends on what you like and/or need from an editor.
@@JimNix Jim, yes. They are making great progress. I'm just offering, hopefully constructively, what I need/want in Luminar if I am going to use Luminar instead of Lightroom.
Can color transfer apply to skin tone? Would appreciate your information.
That's a good question and as of now, I am not sure but I would think it could work. Will have to see once I have a copy.
@@JimNix Thank you Jim
Does color transfer work in the cloud on locally on the computer? Is this a pay per use feature or does it get unlimited use once you have a proper license?
It's local like any other filter in Luminar - not like the GenAI stuff. No pay per use. It's unlimited.
@@JimNix Wow that's great to know
Would be good if they worked on improving what they already have such as the sharpen and noise ai. They are ok but not a patch on other software available.
I am currently working with ON1 Photo RAW 2024 and still within the 30 days money back quarantee. The only reason I chose ON1 was because of the better library manager. but I can't get used to the editor interface. Also I don't like that ON1 makes an XMP and ON1 file for every picture instead of using a catalog.
What do you recommend now that Luminar NEO is coming wih this new Fall upgrade? Will the library manager from the new Luminar update be a big improvement? Will they implement an import module so you can easily decide which photo's to import?
i don't understand why do i need to pay for something new if i am a lifetime buyer. I bought that because i don't want any subscription model. I expect free updates of my software at least for some time ( a year or 3-4 major updates).
No software provides that. What you purchased is a license to use the software you purchased for as long as your computer will run it. You did not purchase the a lifetime right to upgrades.
I am very anti-subscription, but in the old days you'd buy the latest version of software when it was released, so this is no different. See it as 'Luminar Neo 2024'.
@@kristiangodfrey6139 I am not anti subscription if it means the software keeps up with the game, it is the only realistic business model for a software house imo. Neo is miles behind the competition so in this case the subscription counts for nothing really other than lining the pockets of a company that is not up to speed.
With a lifetime license, you have access to the version you bought as long as your computer supports it. And you are getting some free updates with this version, but you don't get every new feature every time something new comes out.
@@colingrant325 Davinci Resolve provides lifetime update . ATM.
My question is will this update be possible for people using computers with an integrated graphics card?
Hmm, not sure Theo, do you mean like Apple M1 chips or something else?
@@JimNix My 3-month old laptop has integrated graphics, not a stand-alone graphic card. I ran into a problem recently with a program that wouldn't recognize that and couldn't upgrade (they have since resolved that problem!). Not everyone can afford the latest and greatest hardware. Some of us have to buy what we can afford. ;) I was just curious if they'd sent you the hardware requirements, along with the other stuff.
@@fenraven oh I see, thanks for clarifying. They did not share any info about tech requirements. I doubt they have changed, but your best bet is to email their support team just in case. If it is running fine for you now, it seems like it would continue to run with these new features. But their support team should know. Thanks.
So what stops Skylum from changing the name from Neo to something else therefore making the lifetime purchase not such a good deal. I was a user and liked the earlier versions (Luminar 3 and 4) and features were promised but instead they Stopped supporting those versions and changed to another name. I am thinking about buying the lifetime but am hesitant.
As I said above, Lifetime means you own THAT version, the one you bought, forever. It does not mean upgrades and updates for free forever. Also, it's been Luminar Neo almost 3 years now so I'm pretty confident they're committed to this product.
The updates al look good but I still have issues with the “Catalog”. All my photos are on an external SSD. I wish, light Lightroom, I could just work from the file structure instead of creating “Catalogs”. That is so confusing. Even ON1 does that as well.
You do understand that Lightroom is a catalog too right? They work exactly the same way. You just add your images from the existing folder and file structure.
@@DigitalPhotoMentor I just done get it. With LR (cloud know also Local) and ON1 I can browse all my photos on an external drive that has folders and sub-folders. I understand a “catalog” or even several Catalogs. I would like, again, to see all my files and subfolder contained in my external drive with all my folders (while editing). I hope I’m making sense. I have not been able to do that with Lumina and its catalog. I seem to have to make all kinds of Catalogs.
@@skyking95 That's not 100% accurate. In order for LR to "Browse" your photos you have to import them just like you do into Luminar. LR will not see any images or folders that are not imported. So if you want to "see" all your folders inside Luminar you have to add them to Luminar.
@@DigitalPhotoMentor THanks. BTW, I did pay already for the Fall update as it look pretty good. BTW, I’m not using LR Classic, I mess with LR that was originally LR CC but now you can draw from a hard drive, external drive etc. No Catalog. Edits are saved via an attached file like what ON1 does. Thanks again.
@@skyking95 Ah okay, I don't use that version of LR.
I hate having to buy their add-ons separately, no need for that
I currently a lifetime user with 2 seat, if I continue with upgrade pass 24/25, is it will have 2 seat? Thanks.
I'm not sure how it works, so I recommend you contact their support team. This wasn't mentioned during the briefing.
What is a lifetime pass if it doesn't give you updates for life?
I lifetime license means you pay one time and you own THAT version of that product forever. You never have to pay again but you do NOT get lifetime updates for free. No company can do that. It's not sustainable.
I am trying out Luminar Neo in free trial mode at the moment as my present favourite On1 Photo Raw doesn't like my integrated graphics card. I'm struggling to get the same results, but I expect that is down to needing more experience in Luminar Neo. One thing I am noticing is that if I save a file in Neo and On1 with the same pixels and dpi the file saved with Luminar Neo is well over twice the size. Is that your experience too, or am I doing something wrong?
Are you crunching it with On1?
trying to catch up with Adobe 😂😂😂😂 yay
haha yes these catalog improvements have been needed for a long time and hopefully more are coming
crashed 6 times in one hour. So this is going to get better? i had the issue w luminar 4 walked away. bought neo. and in the first hour... POOF
Oh man sorry to hear that. Please check with their support team in case they have some ideas about how to fix that.
@@JimNix I did Jim. It's the same story as last time. It's unfortunate.
@@Bowiehair oh man that stinks, sorry but I am not sure what to suggest
It is a shame that xmp data and sidecars set in other applications is still ignored. Until then Luminar is basically only working with tiff and jpg files for me since I flag / rate /keyword my images in other applications and do not want to loose them when editing in Luminar.
Neo is not an end to end raw editor anyway. Once you leave the RAW develop module you are editing something different to raw - probably tiff.
Cheers for the info Jim, I just cancelled my subscription. I don't use the AI gen stuff and there is nothing new that I need. Anything that Neo cannot do, On1 can do so mixing and matching between the two. The version i have works for me 👍
Hey no worries at all, I'm a firm believer that if you have a product that you like to edit with, you should use it. No one needs to have everything, that's for sure.
...but still no DNG workflow on import/export...
Still waiting for more practical updates, like 360° photo editing, rather than all the creative updates.
I am curious if they will add things like 360 editing in the future, but personally I love the creative stuff too.
If you don't pay, it goes away.. just like adobe. In the fine print, those who bought a lifetime license, if we upgrade we only get the generative AI features until Jan 2026. Then you have to pay again to have those features. You have to read the fine print because the don't tell you up front. A sneaky way to get you started in subscription, because the AI stuff is not included in the lifetime license. If I wanted subscription or for my features to go away if I don't pay, I would go Adobe. I have not upgraded in a few years because I don't use Neo that much any more. The "AI" masking stuff was never very good. and the sky replacement always left artifacts. I am pretty much over upgrading Neo. No tool is perfect but this one has been very imperfect for a long time. The updates are not worth the price of admission and some of them go away after a year. No thanks, On1 is not perfect either but it works pretty good. But it is always good to watch your videos. It helps me make decisions on what to buy and what not to buy.
That's not correct to my knowledge. If you stop paying you get to keep the last version you had when you stopped your subscription. That's the answer I was given when my students asked.
@@DigitalPhotoMentor It is correct what I said. It is true, that if you get the upgrade, it will continue to work if you don't pay to upgrade again. Except for the Generative AI, read the fine print on the website, it is there but you have to go to the bottom of a long web page and dig for it.
Where is the portrait app they made us pay for?
I believe they said that one comes out late this year (November?) but they should have shared that info when you ordered it.
they could fix the AI servers first...
There are updates to all the GenAI features included as well.
Meh.
haha ok
So still no key-wording or decent metadata support, in fact still no real dam? Neo is getting left further and further behind. Colour range masking is nothing great - it has been around for ages in the competition. You are flogging a dead horse, Jim. Sorry.
Hi Colin, I appreciate the feedback and we can agree to disagree. The catalog/DAM is behind LR for sure, but these are steps in the right direction which are needed, but it's not even with LR yet. From an editing point of view, I believe Luminar works just as well with some unique/different/better tools than LR. And I love LR, and make some vids about it. It's a great product too. If you don't like Luminar, that's cool and no worries.