The NEW British Airways Business Class | BA Club Suites London to Tel Aviv
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British Airways has introduced a NEW BUSINESS CLASS - OMG!
Their Airbus A350-1000 fleet comes with the new Club Suites. But what makes it so special? Are doors enough to make this business class luxurious? Do they make it more private? I am not so sure... Therefore, I am really curious about your verdict! Watch the video and let us know in the comments - and also take part in the raffle: You can win a British Airways Amenity Kit by "The White Company"!
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⏱ Video Chapters:
00:00 British Airways A350 Club Suites
00:35 Qatar Airways Premium Lounge & BA Club Lounge South Heathrow
01:54 Plane spotting from the lounge
02:20 Boarding: BA Club Suite Cabin & Seat and Welcome
05:20 Takeoff
06:00 Service and Extras on British Airways at a Charge
09:25 Menu - Food and Beverages at British Airways Business Class
10:06 DRAMA - Food and some nagging
14:25 Amenity Kit & British Airways Crew
16:28 The BA Club Suite Bed
18:32 Entertainment and Flight Show on British Airways
19:50 Booking and Costs of ths Flight - AsiaMiles with British Airways
21:31 Conclusion: What's British Airways Club Suite like?
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Thanks for watching the video The NEW British Airways Business Class | Club Suites from London to Tel Aviv
Great, balanced review Chris. We are lucky enough to fly Business on 6hr+ journeys, because we’re retired and have some money. Like you, we are very grateful and feel no entitlement. BA still has lots of catching up to do in terms of plane comfort. They are saved so many times by the cabin teams, who always have that skewed British sense of humour & a personality that, I hope, won’t ever be lost in corporate training 🤞
Hi Peter! Thank you for contributing! You're very right I all of that - and your last words are so good. Corporate training has been killing so many great social skills that used to lie within companies....
big congratulations to you for the outstanding review. Thanks for showing and giving us important details and information about this flight. People make the difference and BA staff is doing their best job. Cheers!!
Thank you very much for your encouraging words! 😊
Very true, a great crew is most important, and here I had a fantastic one
Excellent review once again Chris. I think it was a very fair and accurate report. I think it is outrageous that they charge for seat selection in business class. And so cheap not to install the tail cam ! Glad you had a decent flight, anyway.
Thank you very much, dear John.
Same for Singapore Airlines regarding tail camera. Reason enough for me to not name them "best airline of the world"
It's been true on BA for years if your not a status member in Oneworld. Nothing new.
they don't just charge, they violate your wallet. 150$ and counting PER leg!
Another great review... I don't know how you can eat so much but I appreciate that you show everything possible in your reviews!
On some flights I'm just really full and keep eating to show content - but admittedly, I can eat quite a lot 🙈🤷🏻♂️ what a great luck for my audience! 😂😂😂😂😂
I am a new follower and enjoying your reviews 👍🏼.
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Tolles video. Sie haben sehr viel gegessen! I think BA business class is so much better than their old 2-4-2/2-3-2 arrangements: aisle access, more comfortable seat, better storage, the food can be very good. The FAs are always excellent as you said. I'm not really fussed about the door. Charging for choosing business class seat is outrageous but I've heard they do it as it creates another perk for Silver/Gold members (as a Silver, soon to be Gold, I do love not having to pay for this directly!). Other airlines with camera views that I've been on - Etihad, Emirates, I think Qatar. Subscribed!
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1. For subscribing! I promise my reports won't let you down.
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3. For taking the time to write your great, valuable feedback - especially intruding from a frequent flyer on BA.
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Next video will be released next weekend, after I've had my opera debut in Barcelona (job has to come first, of course...)
Chris
I agree, seat reservation should be free.
I've flown BA premium cabins quite a bit in the last three years, including that product from London to Austin, and I think you're absolutely right about it. BA's catering is very hit-or-miss these days, particularly in eurobiz - but like you I have found the crews pretty much uniformly outstanding. And yes - charging for seat selection in business is an outrage. Keep up the great work.
I find charging a fee for seat reservations on top of really high ticket price absolutely not okay. And more and more airlines do that now....
This was a great review. Is it possible to know in advance as to whether the flight you’re on has the new club seats in business?
Yes, you have to look out for flights with an Airbus A350-1000. They're the ones which exclusively fly with this new seat. Only very few B777 have them installed.
You can also see it on the seat map. When there's a 1-2-1 configuration, you can expect the new cabin
A happy crew makes all flights so much nicer, charging for seat selection in business is crazy. Great video once again, I don't know where you put all that food lol
It's a secret. I have just few stomachs more.... Take a look at my Qatar First Class video.... 😂🙈
@@TravelSingFlyEnglishEdition 🤣I definitely will
Another good vlog, thanks for sharing. The BA backwards seats were a little odd and narrow. Not a fan of them so good to see the change.
Thank you very much, dear John
Moaned throughout the whole vlog, then ends it with ‘I can’t wait to be back 😂
Where did I moan. I'm not one of those other RUclipsrs who do that constantly. On the contrary. I talk just honest about the advantages and the disadvantages. I say that the door might give a claustrophobic feeling to those who feel that way easily - which I don't. I say that there's quite good space for the feet, I like the food as it's very fresh even though it's not special ingredients. I say that I like the drink selection.
I always pay myself for my tickets, with my cash or with my miles - therefore I can say honestly what I think about an airline. I just really want to find the best possible impression of the real experience, which should never be black or white if it's really honest - it's always a mix. I'm the very end comes my very personal feeling about it, and that's that I myself, after trying to show everything objectively as it is, would like to fly BA again, despite the flaws I saw.
I love your review, you made me laugh.
That's great! 😊😊😊😊😊
You should check out Etihad First Class Apartments - my recent report. You'll love it!
I really appreciated your balanced and thoughtful review. BA has a long way to go
to be one of the better business class products in my opinion. I look forward to watching your other reviews. As an “antipodean” my first choice for business class long haul is always Cathay Pacific and Singapore Airlines, who consistently exceed expectations in comfort and service.
Hi Judith! Thank you for your great feedback! You're right that CX and SQ offer a great product. Service, I must say, wasn't as constantly good on Singapore Airlines in my recent flights. But that's already a matter of the moment. It's still a very good airline. I made quote a bunch of reports about both airlines. Maybe you wanna check them out too...?
BA is far from that standard, on the other hand, if you fly within Europe, or as here between Europe and the Near East, there's no Asian carrier, so we have to compare within that competition. And there's so much to no done..... 🙈
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Chris
Thanks for a great review! Regarding the LHR T4 Qatar lounge access, did you mean that although the BA flight departs from T5, but you could go through terminal internal connection from T5 to T4 by BA boarding pass and access the QR lounge?
Therefore, check-in & receive boarding pass at T5, go through security then connection bus from T5 to T4, after lounge, connection bus and security again from T4 to T5? Thank you. :)
That's how I did it. I arrived from another flight at T5 and went airside from there to the Qatar lounge in T4 and back again. But I understand that that was maybe just really really good luck. And I was also really very friendly to the people there at security. But I always am. 😊
@@TravelSingFlyEnglishEdition Thanks for your prompt reply Chris, I appreciate it! Yes you’re very friendly 😜👍
I fly with BA out of T5 a lot, their lounges are really poor, even the First Wing Gold lounge, I know T3 has good Cathay and Qantas lounges, but rarely fly out of T3, and never T4 so far, would like to use my BA Gold status to experience the T3 and T4 One World lounges.
Just couple follow-up questions, if you don’t mind:
1) Did you have to scan boarding pass when enter T4, assume BA T5 departure boarding pass wouldn’t be a big problem for T4 “connection” entry and Qatar lounge access? As you’ve done it.
2) Any hassles when you return back to T5 from T4?
Thanks for your time. 😊
it seems like an improvement from the BA Business Class they used to have.
Absolutely true
Thanks!
Oh wow! That's amazing, I'm moved. Thank you very much! 🤗🤗🤗
You know I pay every flight out of my pocket, therefore it's a pretty ruinous "hobby", plus the comprehensive content and the many many hours of editing. So this is a very uplifting gesture and I really appreciate it very much. Have a great weekend!
Thank you - another great, informative and entertaining review. I can't think why anyone would pay to travel on BA's business class offering - ok if corporate travel and possibly using points (if expiring as in your case). Personally, I think the seat, while admittedly better than its predecessor, is not particularly comfortable (I wouldn't want to do long haul in it!) and the F&B offering is ok (at best). Again, BA is way behind the Middle East and many Far East carriers. I'd also place them behind Air France and even TAP.. Charging for Wi-Fi is expected in business but to charge to reserve seats is just poor.
Thank you for your feedback. We somehow have to compare with European competition - I just used Qatar as they're siblings today, more or less....
I agree that high fees for seat reservation in business are not okay
Your voice is soooooo relaxing, Chris.
And since you mentioned the seat charges, the increase of all these aviation videos was gonna grab the attention of airlines and they were go for that money grab.
🤣🤣🤣 That's a tough thesis.... I hope you're not right! 😒🤣🙈
Nice to have the bathroom in the background with all those handsome young men visiting it ;-)
OMG, I normally make sure to not show anybody, to ensure everybody's privacy. In this case I simply didn't see it
Meaning the 'suites' are just too low ;-)@@TravelSingFlyEnglishEdition
Nice video.
There is a degree of logic behind the seat fees (not that I fully agree with it). The rationale is that most people who book early are paying fares that are on the lower end of the spectrum. If you allow these people to select seats for free, the people who book later and typically pay more, have a poor selection of seats. If I was to book late and had paid 3 to 4 times the cost of the cheapest tickets I would be pretty annoyed to only be left with a middle seat in front of the toilets or next to the galley.
Since they offer all Oneworld Sapphire and Emerald status passengers free seat selection from the time of booking, it also acts as an incentive to become a loyal passenger (although it does admittedly leave a sour taste until you get status).
Thank you for the feedback. Always good to have several points of view on one thing 😊
However, even if you book late at a very high fee (like 1750 GBP got a 5-hour flight), you still need to pay for seat selection
Hi, we’ve just had our flights cancelled in First because they changed the plane to one that only has new business class. Very frustrating of them to do this so close to the flight date! Called BA and they have managed to get us some business suite seats. Disappointed we will miss the Concorde room though and will look to make a compensation claim as no refund on points either.
How did you manage to get into the Qatar lounge? We have a connecting flight in Doha which is Qatar first 👍🙏
Hi! That's really frustrating being downgraded on a flight you're looking forward to - and then without a refund in Avios? Absolute No-Go! You need to fight for a refund. On a paid ticket, if you get downgraded, you get a pretty big amount of money - it's even stated in the European flight rights bill that guarantees a refund for full cancelations and long delays. So they should actually give you money and refund some points.
The other thing: If your Qatar First Class flight originated from Doha, you simply have access to the Al Safwa Lounge. Check out my dedicated report on that lounge here in the channel
How did you get into the t4 lounge if u were on a t5 flight?!?
Let's say I was very persuasive......
I arrived at terminal 5, went airside to t4 and did as if it's the most normal thing to go to the lounge there before going back to t5. And it worked
Thanks for the review. One question. If you bought the ticket using points then how did you get access to Qatar Airways lounge, because OW website states first/business ticketed revenue customers only?
There's 2 lounges in T4 - I went to the premium lounge (the by far better one) that's for OW customers with a premium-class ticket. However it never actually happens that a British Airways passenger gets there as BA doesn't depart from T4. It took them also a quick call to a supervisor to check if I, standing there with a friendly smile and an international business-class ticket, had access, and I did. It was an award ticket bought through AsiaMiles.
@@TravelSingFlyEnglishEdition after visiting the QR premium lounge in T4 how did you transfer to T5? Did you had to go to the arrivals and take the transfer bus?
@@shafiqjawead it was all airside. I arrived at t5 then went by bus to t3 (where they didn't accept me!), then to t4, then again back to t5. All airside transfers without leaving the security area of Heathrow.
Next time maybe don’t be with the toilet behind you. Great vlog, I really enjoyed it.
Some European airlines such as Lufthansa treat their Europe-Tel Aviv routes as if they are flights within Europe and use A320s or other single aisle aircraft on the route with the Euro-style Business Class (Economy class seats with middle seat blocked off) as opposed to long haul business class flights with proper lie flat seats.
Very true! Actually only British Airways and Air France have not planned going there. Sometimes Swiss too. There's just not enough people on the other routes. Same with Cairo or Beyrouth
BA used to include Tel Aviv as a European short haul location, certainly in the 90s when I did the trip every month. Club Europe was always packed on the overnight flights.
The worst thing about BA charging for seat bookings, which they tell you to do ASAP, is if you cancel the flight they don’t refund. Shocking rip off.
Still way better than SWISS A320 from ZRH-TLV-ZRH. Painfully cramped as we originated from JFK. Nonetheless good to get your take on BA’s A350 biz service to TLV. I absolutely agree with you regarding payment in BIZ for seat assignment. PETTY! PETTY!
I agree that British and also mostly Air France are 100% better with their big planes and comfortable business class seats with full service than horrible European Business Class of all the other airlines going to the Near East
Travel sing fly and eat🙂
So true! I've been thinking about re-naming my channel more than once
BA BC: claustrophobic cubicles alas...
I totally understand if that's some people's reaction.....
But wait for this weekend's report: ETIHAD FIRST CLASS APARTMENTS - The opposite of little space!
I Have Try Out BA 6 Weeks Ago Its Better The 2-4-2 inA380 And B777.A2-3-2 B787
OMG, it's waaaaaay better! Thank you for being here and sharing your thoughts 😊
6:07 champagne effect?
Oh trust me, a glass of champagne doesn't put me off the text of my RUclips work. Otherwise is only do dry flights 😉
Sometimes I just try to speak as fast as possible to make sure I say everything in a short time in both languages, for my German and English channels, before the next thing happens, and then I sometimes say 3 words at the same time 🙈😅. On a 5-hour flight, with my content load, time is a real enemy and I just make it in time to say and present everything. Not a second for private enjoyment. On flights more than 8 hours, I start having some time to speak more slowly and also to just lie down for a moment without the camera running...
@@TravelSingFlyEnglishEdition ur dedication is top notch but please take it easy.
@@tanzil88 thank you for saying that.... Not easy to take it easy..... At the moment is like a dream to go on holidays without a camera, but it's a bigger dream to share my content with many more people 😊 - so I'm working on that...
@@TravelSingFlyEnglishEdition thanks for the hard wok. Hugs
I wouldn't be surprised if they started selling upgraded drinks packages for flights.
Still another great review. ❤
OMG, don't give out those bad, bad ideas 😅🙈🙈🙈
Cannot believe BA charge extra to book a seat in Business class, should not be allowed!
I totally agree. There's quite a few more airline who have this policy now.
Finnair charges up to 150 USD for a business-class seat - see my report about the otherwise incredibly amazing ne Finnair business class
BA can be fine but until they fix their IT systems, start provisioning the advertised menu and deliver some ground based customer service, the UK brand of a Madrid registered multinational are Best Avoided because of their inconsistency and aggressively hands off approach to supporting customers when something goes wrong (which is too frequent, in part as a result of the afore mentioned clockwork IT)
BA also have a bigger recruitment and retention issue than most because of the very poor industrial relations and the poverty wages, with reduced terms that they introduced under Covid (despite the UK's furlough scheme)
Thank you for your insights, @@journeyingjohn3275
@@TravelSingFlyEnglishEdition they are starting to address pay as it's impact on recruitment has been so severe. The UK parliamentary Transport Select Committee described BA's actions under Covid as "a national disgrace", ironic given the ownership and where their parent company is registered (Madrid).
@@TravelSingFlyEnglishEdition Also they didn't get as much public money as eg. Lufthansa. They actually argued against public support for aviation, in hopes of their competition going bust... But then took a massive loan underwritten by the UK government and not available to the competition. This is on top of the deferred tax, 80% of salary costs, reduced air traffic charges, etc
In short, they harvest cash from inherited brand and slot dominance while doing the absolute minimum they can get away with. Their dated, unreliable, user unfriendly iT systems (both external and internal). Repeated failures over years have brought their operations to a halt. This can happen to any airline but the regularity and severity is at the high end of the scale.
Im a European Brit who has spent 23years travelling for work (not in aviation).
Too much whining. It's a solid business class product.
Could you tell me where I'm whining...? I'm probably the least whining of all aviation RUclipsrs.....
And where am I not saying that it's a solid business class?