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Let’s be real……drag race NEEDS a “ dolls of herstory” themed episode where they are put into teams of 2/3 & each one has to pick a doll from a brand assigned to them & create either there own Original characters or a pre-existing doll & make it something new ( like sugar & spice did for Halloween but as a full on episode). Heck they could have TRIXIE MATTEL, a certified doll collector with a genuine #1 1959 blond swimsuit barbie…be a guest judge & put some opinions on the looks as the view point on a doll collector. Id totally love this type of episode
I’m surprised they haven’t done a doll themed episode or runway yet but they need to, it would be so cool! Plus RuPaul is getting a skullector doll soon and Trixie plays a character in the new series! Now would be the perfect time for it! ⚡️💕✨
Season 16 did a doll themed challenge where the queens had to make their own doll and a look corresponding it
@@theofficialjakestanlol really? Is that season 16 as in regular season? I haven’t kept up since season 12. That sounds really creative. I remember that in one of the earlier seasons they took integrity Rupal dolls & gave them makeovers but I’m surprised they haven’t done a fashion show runway theme based on dolls.
@@michaelburns2003yeah and the guest judge was Law Roach. I kinda wish they brought a doll designer, like Jessy Ayala of Integrity Toys. It would make total sense to do that since Rupaul has a doll by them. Missed opportunity nonetheless but ig having a celebrity fashion stylist is more favorable for a reality show.
@@michaelburns2003yes the episode was amazing!!
I think this episode couldve been a lot more memorable for MH fans and Face off fans is if they had changed the challenge idea to "design your own teenage monster to attend monster high, winner gets their design turned into a doll" (im imagining LE collector doll, but that would have been really cool and these contestants wouldve been able to show off their character design skills a lot better too, which the best episodes of face off always showcases well) but alas, the only reason this episode got greenlit was because Mattel had no idea how to translate the character designs into live action for their upcoming movie and wanted inspiration, so that idea would never have happened.
It's interesting that even though Mattel wanted to use the contest to test out live action MH designs, the winning design chosen by fans looks nothing like live action Lagoona. I wonder if they did actually consider the designs. I mean, the live action Cleo does look like movie Cleo, but I think that's just a coincidence.
That would have been awesome
They stopped doing rewards like that well before this season. Always turned out to be a huge letdown or just never actually materialized.
Tbh, I'm surprised they didn't cause they had that going on as a trend for a few seasons. XD
That would’ve made the challenge way much better.
I dropped my tablet pen when I saw Venus those TEETH 😭😭
😭😭😭
I hope it survived the fall
indiah ferrah is shaking
"Of course she's recognizable. Those fake teeth can be seen from space." alksfdjskadjfkljsdgkljgd
To be honest, these guys thinking not knowing how to do a character more feminine isnt something that would devalue them as an artist, like you need versatility in your portifolio, is okay to be more inclined to one type of makeup but only wanting to do montrosus makeup because is "more masculine" and not being open minded like the lagoona guys was their downfall
I've met a lot of male sfx makeup artists who struggle to do beauty makeup because it just wasn't what they signed up to do. They're monster people and they like to do monsters.
And yes, you are right: knowing a bit about beauty makeup would absolutely go a long way.
A makeup artist I worked with on the set of a music video I did had little idea about beauty makeup, but since we didn't have an actual beauty makeup artist, he stepped up.
He did really well in the end, but he was pretty nervous. lol
@@GirtheAlienGoldfish im not saying they should know to make beauty makeup but know how to make a beautiful and feminine monster would be very good for them, to explore new ideia beyond their comfort zone of horror monster
Yeah, specifically when you go to a competition show, like you can’t really choose what you gonna do so knowing at least a little of beauty and “girly” makeup is really important
It’s crazy too because all they did was add that awful nose 😭
what's crazy about cleo is she looks pretty much 1 to 1 with the 2022 movie.
I was gonna say did they predict the future.
"He talks like he knows the abominable snowman personally" well, maybe he does. Let's not assume anything about his life.
Uhm... is this comment ironic?
Why did they send Abby out there looking like she HAD a prosthetic but it started melting off 💀💀💀
Frankie was probably a copyright issue unfortunately. Can't say that with 100% certainty, but I know Universal's getting really uptight about their monster copyrights. This affected g3 Frankie A LOT.
Overall love this episode!! What a cute idea!
(edited for poor grammar LOL)
For some reason that didn't occur to me, but it's a good point! You're probably right.
It’s so sad because im pretty sure the g1 ghouls were officially connected to the universal monsters, so seeing Universal crack down on it is heartbreaking.. Plus G1 Frankie is iconic and it would’ve been so cool to see them use SFX to recreate her.. 💔
And she’s my favorite ghoul 🥺
Yup came here to say that it was probably a copyright thing as well
It's insane to me that universal can copyright what color is used for a character, that's in the public domain. Frankie is Mattel's IP and they should be able to make her/them green.
Sadly not the most ridiculous copyright battle involving a universal monsters character.
ACTUALLY, Universal only has a copyright claim if ALL of these traits are used.
1. Protruding forehead
2. Neck bolts
3. Green skin
4. Forehead scar
5. Flat top head
And since G1 Frankie only uses two of those five traits, she was never really in any danger of being copyright claimed. I think G3 Frankie being blue was more of a design choice, since blue compliments their whole vibe and power set more. Highly reccomend giving this article "How Universal Re-Copyrighted Frankenstein’s Monster" a read. Legal loopholes like these are how other studios got away with using a green wicked witch in their wizard of oz retellings, despite the OG witch being owned by MGM.
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Face Off was one of my _favourite_ shows as a teenager!! I really think they did the cast dirty with this episode, they should’ve only chosen characters with fantasy skin tones or wild prosthetic concepts (Gooliope would’ve been fun to see) and also set expectations for how true to the doll they wanted the runway looks to be 😤
Gooliope would’ve been so cool! Also I wish they had Ghoulia
For me, I think they should have mentioned one of Abbey’s hobbies is making ice sculptures from a chainsaw and see the contestants reactions and then have their Abbey model pose with her ice saw and latest art project.
That would be peek television.
Lagoona is definitely the MVP, I don't think anyone can argue otherwise. I'm surprised Draculara got that high up, besides her outfit the rest of her vibes were... just okay.
I think Abby and Venus's looks are like... such huge disappointments... First of all the whole "simian nose" thing, they went very Planet of the Apes (1960s original); it's such a boring move though, they could have decided to make her like Snow Leopard themed or Saber-tooth cat themed and it would have turned out way better. Venus's team worked way too hard on that handbag and I wish they had just like. Slapped a thick, viney prosthetic right on her face instead of her neck, maybe with some fake thorns and a flower by her temple. They were too afraid to put a cool plant prosthetic but somehow brave enough to do a hideous teeth one.
The lighting on the "Showcase" shots was a CHOICE. I'm gagged that someone thought the best way to light detailed facial prosthetics was... from
above.
God, the Drag Race challenges that could occur if copyright infringement weren't a concern...
Thank you so much for sharing this, I had NO idea it existed.
The reason why they chose that type of lighting was specifically because if your prosthetics look good for film and they expect that you'll think of the unflattering lighting and "worst case" scenarios that would happen since the whole point is showcasing sfx artists
I used to watch this show like A LOT
Cig and George had like STELLAR RUNS on their original season (they competed in the same season), but they didn't win, so you kinda knew they would be brought back in some way. They're already besties originally, so the team format wasn't exactly a problem, and they went to the finale together on all stars, to no one's surprise. Whereas for Logan and Adam who had kinda opposite energies, that didn't happen. I was actually surprised that the girl who had the most impressive skills with wigs (Emily) didn't go for some wig sculpture for Draculaura, it was kinda disappointing, but I'll give it a pass, since the final product was serviceable.
If I'm not mistaken the costumes vary so much because the studio already has the clothes and fabrics laying around on the set, so the contestants have to match their concepts with what's available to them?? Having matching clothes with the dolls is a matter of luck mostly.
As far as I’m aware, for most of the challenges they get to request what kind of costume they want for their look, and a costume department will send them the closest thing they have that fits their model? I remember several episodes where contestants got costume pieces and props that weren’t… quite what they had asked for, and they just had to work with what the ended up with. But I wouldn’t be surprised if they didn’t get a choice of outfit for this particular challenge, since they’re SO character-specific
OMG! I'm the purple haired super fan. this unlocked a core memory! Love that my Voldemort comment lives on! i fist pumped the air when you mentioned it.
we also didnt have alot to say about Draculaura cause none of us really liked her.
That’s so cool!!
Can you PLEASE do the episode of Project Runway where they design a My Scene outfit that was created into an actual doll outfit?! I really wish Mattel would do that idea more with design shows.
Hey there! I was one of the boo crew judges in this episode. It was an honor to be apart of this project. The behind the scenes things that we said that didn’t make the Final Cut could be a whole episode in of itself! 🖤
I'd love to hear more about this!! What major things didn't they include in the final episode?
@@belialbzarr hahaha okay. Some of which was a lot of the compliments I had for Lagoona, Abbey and Skelita. Truth be told, a lot was cut of all of our critiques for Clawdeen and Draculaura. Also, when they sent the contestants backstage so we could assess the monsters up close one of the makeup artists does the “I got my eyes on you” motion at one of the boo crew. She was doing that to me because her and I were both wearing the same skeleton heeled boots lol
But that’s just some of the things I could remember off the top of my head. I’m sure there’s so much more
fun fact: when i was younger my brother and i met a winner from face-off at a convention. he was the one who had done makeup for the hobbit movies and i was really into them then, so i told him i had really liked his work on them and everything. he gave me and my brother an autograph afterwards and my brother's was a picture from the hobbit and mine was a picture from face-off and i got really sad lol. i don't care now but it's still funny enough that i think about it whenever i'm reminded of the show
i totally get why you were upset though cuz not a lot of people recognize what faceoff is so if you try to show off his autograph, you would have to explain what face off is and THEN mention that he did work on the hobbit. If he had signed the hobbit picture instead, someone would look at it and immediately be like "omg you have an autograpgh from someone from the hobbit?!" and that would be the sole focus of the conversation without having to mention a random competition show haha
One thing I missed in the later seasons of Face Off is a lot of the earlier ones HAD beauty make-up challenges and things like "disguise a family member as a different person" and later seasons seemed to just focus on monsters and fantasy, which, while nice, didn't show as big a range as the first few seasons did. I think the MH challenge could've gone a lot better overall if it had been done way earlier.
This show was EVERYTHING to me growing up lol, and Cig actually does the rounds at horror conventions in my area and I've ended up on very friendly terms with him. He's judged and helped with a lot of my big cosplays in the past, he's a SUPER talented and a really cool dude to hang around. Vee Neil and a few other members of the show have done the rounds at some local cons, but I haven't spent as much time/talked to them that much.
I had never heard of this show or the MH episode before today, and wow. Lagoona's makeup/prosthetics deserve the win they received. Some of the others.... I think if Mattel had given more characters with places for creative prosthetics, like Toralei, Viperine, Jinafire, etc. it would have helped the teams much more. Instead, they went with safe, fan-favorite, core characters. Could you imagine getting a Wydowna look from this episode? Or Iris? There are so many directions they could have gone! In terms of lack of Frankie, my guess would be rights issues with Universal over the Frankenstein licensing. I wish we'd seen more of the Skelita - the final look was amazing. Thank you for sharing this bit of MH history with us!
This crossover was EVERYTHING to me as a kid, I adored both FaceOff and Monster High and it’s still baffling that this collaboration happened in the first place
I loved both but didn't know about this collaboration till now 😭 I didn't get to watch them when they came out, I had to watch reruns
I miss this show so much. I learned so much about character design, how to and not do 3D design, and the criticism was almost always constructive. It was the perfect antidote to the sourness of InkMaster. I feel like after a break, this show could come back with some fresh ideas for challenges. If you're a young artist, I recommend watching and taking notes.
Of all the things to enhance on Abbey, they enhanced the nose and made it look like that? When I think of Abbey from G1 I think of her cute overbite.
Frankie not being included was certainly a choice. Anybody who got her would've had a blast with the prosthetics and makeup.
That final showcase with the looks and the lighting did no favors for some of these looks, especially Venus.
I think Frankie wasn't included because they were afraid of Universal suing them.
The other MH dolls do avoid copyright limits, but Frankie's design is way too much based off on Universals design that any makeup artist would end up having trouble.
It's one of the reasons G3 Frankie doesn't have the bolts, and they changed their color from light mint green to light blue.
For Cleo, if the challenge was to make them more monster like than cute, I would actually would have gone to the Universal look for inspiration, the crunchy look, it's not that hard to replicate but fun, same for Clawdeen.
Venus, the team did lean on the monster aspect.
Abbey would have looked better with they gave her the iconic teeth, had it would have balanced the monkey's nose they were insisting on keeping.
Skelita looks fine.
Draculaura is way too human, so I get the way they tried to include a prosthetic in there, but I would have gone with bat wings, or even a Bat like nose, or even more like Buffy's vampires, if the challenge was to make them more like monsters.
I had no idea this episode existed! Thank you for covering it! Us not seeing more of Skelita's process is a crime. She was definitely my favorite (Lagoona a close second) because they did such a fantastic job of making her look skeletal and I really loved the face makeup and overall design. Also, poor Abbey deserved better.
Waittttt that Cleo actually looks identical to the one they designed for the live action movie😱 No doubt they had to have used this as reference
One thing that I dislike about the Cleo design is that her Eye of Ra detail is not pronounced at all. I originally thought that they forgot it, but no. The lines are faintly there, but they immediately get lost in the shadow cast by her bangs. If they pushed that detail more, maybe she would have gotten some more appreciation.
Good LORD Venus made me gasp...And not in the good way. I mean, I like the hair but she's got more gum than teeth 😭
I think Lagoona was the only one I really liked. Her makeup is so cute
I discovered this show after seeing gifs of that episode where they design a Dark Crystal Skeksis puppet costume in collaboration with the Jim Henson Company. As someone super into Sci fi/fantasy creature design and who watched competition shows like Top Model and Great British Bake-off, I’m mad I didn’t get to grow up with this show.
As a fan of both Face Off and Monster High, when that episode first came out, I remember losing my GD MIND. I really liked how they had actual Monster High fans judge the creations instead of just the regular judges
Omg what you said about cooking shows. The way most of the contestants in general were towards desserts in Top Chef was so baffling. Very few were actually prepared and it’s so weird cause like they’ll be serving desserts at their restaurants so they should know at least one or two of them. This is why I like Top Chef Masters a bit more. They were a bit daunted by desserts but they weren’t as afraid as the Top Chef contestants and were willing to jump in to make something.
I loved Face Off. Every season would have some challenge that involved beauty makeup, and some of it was so bad. Like, you can perfectly paint and shade full body makeup but eyeshadow blending escapes you? I would love to see Trixie and Katya react to Face Off though.
Fast forward to the live action movie where they just slapped on some fins for Lagoona with some colorful hair and called it a day💀
I didn't even know this was a thing. THIS is why I love this channel so much. I almost always learn something. It's like special interest catnip ❤
The way they give the people who have Clawdeen a white model and they paint her brown noooo😭😭
AHHHH okay so as someone who is a fan of monster high and and HUGE nerd about sfx and costume makeup (and also cosplay) this is such a a letdown of an episode. I had never heard of this episode before and I cannot believe some of the choices made. I have seen so many incredible interpretations of the ghouls in art and makeup, and its so sad to see how minimal some of these were. there are so many ways to bring out the monster features while still maintaining the glam and cute. the lagoona is so exceptional, they really knocked it out of the park. they maintained her cute so well! she was still a fish monster but she was still bubbly and friendly! and I can't believe that's the first time that guy styled a wig, that is absolutely insane, wigwork is HARD
Cig Neutron uses they/them pronouns presently btw! They refer to their gender identity as "genderful"! Since FaceOff, Cig has done special fx for season three, episode one of Dragula called "The Lesser of Two Evils" AND the Boulet's bat prosthetics for their "Halfway to Halloween" special!
Oh hell yeah
I loved watching Face Off on syfy ch. I remember being super excited for this episode. Then i was super disappointed. The artist are talented, but i felt they were in over their heads on that challenge and setup to fail. I was glad they had super fans judging but you could tell they too didnt want to be mean under the circumstances these contestants were put under. I did not like any of the looks, but some did a great job and i applauded the effort and creativity. At that time, I hoped their would not be a live action movie. Fast forward to today, that show helped me really appreciate todays live action characters and interpretation. So something good came outta that. Lol.
It was definitely a weird choice for them to use the characters with human skin tones. I especially spent every second Clawdeen's team was on screen going "please don't put her in blackface, oh god PLEASE don't put her in blackface." I guess they managed to avoid doing anything racially insensitive (probably?), but that's still kind of a weird extra layer of complications to give the contestants. (Though I guess Abbey kind of falls into the same category? I was definitely like. A MONKEY NOSE?? ARE YOU SURE?????????)
Alright now you gotta do the MyScene episode of Project Runway (though if I recall they NEVER mention the dolls they are promoting are MyScene, just 'Barbie', lol)
Edit: Rewatched, I'm wrong, they introduce the MyScene line at the start, but then they only give them the Blondes to pick from (one is Delancey) and all the contestants call them all Barbie. There's also the awful blonde wigs on all the models nonsense
Was that when My Scene first started and Kennedy was named Barbie?
@@em84c Yes, I think so! It's from season 2 in 2005, plus I think Kennedy was more of an outside the US marketing thing (especially since they stopped selling them in the US in general). She was always Barbie for me. The winning look was turned into a doll, she's pretty cute.
I loved Face Off and loved a lot of designs. I assume it was pretty popular since it lasted so many seasons. Even so, this episode did some characters so dirty.
i was really into face off back at the start of high school- pretty sure i got my name inspiration from either it or another similar syfy series? anyway, i had NO IDEA there was a monster high episode! i wish they had used monster high in a different way like others in the comments have suggested- designing their own original monster high character or something would have been super cool. as soon as you said they were doing a face prosthetic for cleo i KNEW it was going to be... something, certainly. so glad they ended up scrapping it. honestly i think there must be some sort of requirement to make latex prosthetics for every challenge, or at least for the majority, because even though the prosthetic bandages are impressive, i can only imagine how cool it would have looked if they could have just used fabric and shaded/painted it to look perfect. plus, the random as hell bat prosthetics on draculaura's collarbones, while cool, are out of left field. i can imagine a show like this (is face off still making new episodes?) doing this today and it being absolutely amazing. and they would get to do frankie since their skin isn't green and they don't have neck bolts in g3! i've seen some seriously creative make-up looks inspired and themed around monster high in the last few years, kind of want to see a professional competition go at it again- someone else in the comments mentioned drag race and that would be absolutely amazing- if they could get mattel on board. mattel has worked with trixie before i'm pretty sure, so they aren't completely against working with drag queens publically- especially since ru paul is getting a monster high doll in g3 sometime this year, i've heard. i can dream about the collab, at least.
Sadly it ended in 2018, largely due to ratings and money it seems
I used to love this show but for some reason had totally forgotten it existed! This was a fun recap.
Also, the super fan in the red jacket was really cute.
Haha, my family and I love face off and and I loved monster high! So this episode was neat to see. Not the best portrayals but yeah
I've been saying it for years. Every single artist doesn't need to have every single skill, but it's annoying how many faceoff contestants make it to the semifinale or finale on horror alone - not a single old age, beauty, femenine or otherwise pretty character. The fact that so many artists (especially men) work in professional level makeup and prosthetics but can't do basic casual run of the mill makeup or contour just defies logic. Fantasy and sci fi have much broader range than horror, but a ton of artists on the show later on were able to entirely avoid ever having to do any form of beautiful or femenine makeup, often times using excuses to make prompts into monsters, demons or succubi without actually engaging with the source material or audience associated with the prompt. It isn't unique to makeup, but it's not uncommon for beginner artists to use horror or gore as a crutch. In particular, I remember being disappointed that they did a candyland episode and almost everyone did horrific, bloody makeup, no mention of the board game, it's characters or care for a potentially young child aged audience. I watched over ten seasons of the show, and while the base skill levels have skyrocketed, sometimes it feels like the creativity and broader skillset is lacking.
cammy + monster high + face off?? three of my absolute favorite things!!
oh also you might like to know that i believe cig identifies as nonbinary now! their instagram bio describes them as "genderfull" so that makes it even better to me to know a queer creator won the challenge :3
Has anyone actually noticed, not including the prosthetics and definitely changing the wig, Cleo’s design is actually very close to what Monster High did do for the live action action? Both are super similar.
Ahhh, I haven't thought about Face Off in years!! I loved that show. I don't think I saw this season though-- what a great recap. This has absolutely everything I loved about the show: wild choices in character design, last-minute disaster, some really awesome looks! I'm going to have to go find where to watch it again now 😂
I think the funniest part about this is that Cleo's look here isn't too awfully far off from the actual live action lmfao. There really isn't a lot you can do with her 💀 I wish they could have made her more corpse -ish because I've seen some really cool Cleo redesigns but I understand why Mattel wouldn't want to do that.
FINALLY someone talks about this episode, it was one of my faves as a child 😭😭 i love your videos!!
Face off was one of my favorite shows to watch when i was younger! I actually vaguely remember this episode and its so cool you covered this! I would love if you covered more random shows bringing up dolls or having dolls as a theme :D you did such a good job on this video as you usually do :)
My collarbone HURTS looking at Draculaura's ☠
If I had the choice to change out one of the dolls it would have been Cleo. Don't get me wrong, as a character I love her, but as a kid I always thought her dolls were a little boring. I do think you can make cool Mummy-themed effects make up and prosthetics, but Cleo doesn't really look like a classic horror Mummy, Obviously because she's a fashion doll. I think if her team did try leaning towards a more horror-creature look, they could have been more successful, the judges also might've disliked it, though.
There's 4 characters that I would go with instead of Cleo: Toralei, Operetta, Rochelle, and Nefera.
I won't go into details so, to be quick,
*Toralei literally just because she's a Werecat.
*Operetta because I would've loved to see them try to replicate her mask and scars.
*Rochelle because I think you can do a lot with Gargoyles.
*Nefera because honestly even if I loathed her personality and gagged that time Cleo said she was a "Great big sister" 😡, I just really love her design.
Honestly, if you wanted to just recap Face Off episodes for the rest of your time on RUclips, I'd watch that forever.
I remember not being very impressed by this episode, for some reason -- I think it was the lack of Frankie. She's LITERALLY the main character but Skelita is here? Not that I'm mad that Skelita is here, but I'm more or less confused as to why.
For the costuming they mention in one of the older seasons that they draw up the costume design and send it to costuming to make so they don’t see it til the very last day
another cammy video, another win for the day
G3 Lagoona would be a great doll for a show like this..The pink skin and foreheads scales.
And Robecca would be awesome.
You are the best dolltuber! You have such interesting topics. I get so excited when I see there's a new video.
I watched this show all the damn time! I feel seen and heard LOL, but this is such an awesome episode and I am glad to walk down memory lane with you.
Skelita should've won tbh. She looks just like the character AND the prosthetics for very impressive
I always think about this episode of Face Off, I watched it religiously when it was airing, so when the Monster High episode came out I SCREAMED
Edit- I would NOT want my monster high designs critiqued by superfans, that's actually so terrifying I forgot about that part
I used to love face off! Thanks for talking about it 😊
Oh man I forgot about this episode and being excited about it as a monster high kid. That was one of my favorite seasons of the show my mom, sister and I used to watch it when we were growing up.
I can't believe the selection of dolls to pick from were so bland. They could've used a tonne of the G1 designs like even Robbeca Steam of Honey Swamp or even Spectra wtf would they go with the G2 versions? I think the G3 versions would've given them more to work with entirely.
They didn't even use a good Clawdeen it's such a dissrvice to everyone.
I remember watching this when it came out, flipped, on a pirate site, because Syfy never makes their stuff easy ro find on streaming. I also remember not really liking Cig and George's attitudes and disliking that they won, but you do put it in better perspective. They tried and did a good job, though their comments about now having to go have beers afterward were super annoying at the time.
AHHHH I remember when this aired on tv!!!!! Some of my friends watched it with me and said I shouldve been part of that audience of fans that judged the looks
This was a fun video! And 100% agree they should have gone for only characters with fantasy skintones. I'd be so down for more of these if you feel like doing them, I know Project Runway has an episode centered on My Scene and another on Shopkins.
I remember being SO excited with that episode's prompt when it aired but some of the results were... a choice. I remember rambling about the innacuracy of some of the characters to my dad (we watched the show together) and him just shrugging.
Lagoona’s is the most freaky fabulous. I love when MH leans into more monstrous features because it’s supposed to be about loving your looks, unconventional or otherwise.
i love Face-Off because it is one of the few reality/competition shows where it is generally wholesome! not a lot shit talking, sabotage, interpersonal drama! And it is so often that other competitors help each other out with no benefit to themselves
I remember watching this episode when it came out and me being cynical since birth thought it was FaceOff “selling out” to Mattel 😂 because the original judges weren’t there, no one was being eliminated and well, the whole Mattel involvement. As an adult, looking back, I’m not angry about it anymore, especially knowing all I know about fashion dolls and respecting the craft behind them (thanks to this channel).
This was a great episode, you tell stories really well and enjoyed it, your humour and also your understanding of this topic of monster high and makeup and costumes - really top notch
On a side note, I always find it weird when prize packages are specific merchandising for their brand. Like, cool, that would have been an amazing prize for Keaglhan’s team but literally nobody else would care, and that makes it kinda hard to watch went they don’t do that well.
Actually it’s a reoccurring thing that male contestants seem to always say “I don’t do beauty make up”. They don’t hide it and it kinda becomes the storyline for the episode. The natural disaster fairy episode on season 7 or the intergalactic beauty pageant on season 8 are a good examples where they clearly struggled.
I was so excited for this episode when it came out…. I don’t think a lot of them turned out too great…. But I wish this show would come back. So much fun and so creative!
I don't collect Monster High, am not especially interested in the characters or the lore, and have not heard of this competition show, but yet you made it engaging!
This is what I always thinking of when people complain about the liveaction movies not looking exactly like the dolls, specially when they comment it under cosplays. Cosplay looking costumes don't translate well into real life! Specially not for media outside of cosplay photography.
You just unlocked a memory for me! I used to love this show and remember watching before i was a mh fan too. That abbey nose HAUNTS ME
Ngl I think Cleo looked really good. In terms of looking like the character it really gave Cleo. Even though there wasn’t much to do. I would be so happy if this is how she looked in live action.
10:27 season 5 when Eddie does the Mother Nature challenge and leaves her face completely bare always kills me cause why did he think that was a good idea
Great video idea, I saw this episode when it first premiered! You should cover the Project Runway American Girl Doll Beforever collab next
This unearthed dormant memories in my head of actually watching this with my cousin back when it was new. So weird.
Cleo is a historic figure, basically... not even a monster. I'm not sure why she got inducted as an idea for Monster High.
I used to watch Face Off a lot. I have to be in the mood for it.
Monster High characters are based on classic Hollywood monster films. That was the whole point 😬 The Mummy was an old Hollywood horror film.
I wasnt expecting my favorite show of all time to be mentioned in a youtube video... let alone to come across it without searching 🥺
I remember this episode being my first real introduction to monster high... so i'll always enjoy it (despite the bad looks since yknow, every episode has bad ones) because i adore the dolls now 🥺❤
OMG THIS IS CRAZY IM WATCHING FACE OFF RIGHT NOW!!!
I even watched this episode a few days ago lol
I grew up watching face off. I could've sworn it was an earlier season but I guess it made sense if it was for the reboot
I was such a big fan of Face Off back in the day my mom and I would watch it all the time but i'd completyely forgotten this episode until sig was on screen lol
Ive been a Face Off fan since the beginning, still rewatch it all the time. I remember when this episode first aired i was excited for it, because even though im not a Monster High superfan by any means (i wasn't allowed to buy the dolls, and i wasn't all that interested in the show) i have always loved Monster High from a character design concept standpoint.
I think having a mix of more overtly monstrous and more human like characters didn't really unbalance the challenge, because sfx makeup artists all have different preferences and specialties, as we saw in this challenge itself. Someone getting Cleo as their base isn't better off than someone getting Skelita if they aren't experienced in doing beauty makeup. Tons of sfx artists excell at prosthetic applications, and fumble when it comes down to beauty looks.
And in the same vein, getting a character with a more human skintone isn't necessarily and advantage. Since everyone knows what human skin is supposed to look like any mistakes made are immediately more obvious. Ive seen contestants fail what would've been relatively simple looks *specifically because* they couldn't match the makeup to the color of their model's skin properly, including, again, in this same challenge with Clawdeen. (and it's pretty much exclusively when working with poc models and/or characters, which is a whole thing i could get into on it's own, but i digress)
Cleo was a trip up because it was so simple it was easy to overthink and overcomplicate, which is exactly what happened. I think giving the artists a chance to attempt a simple look was a *good* thing, but the artists working on her just missed the point of it. It was a good opportunity for a "less is more" approach, and to show off the fact that good beauty makeup skills *are* important in sfx. Had they focused on a beauty look from the get go, and done minimal prosthetics to sell the mummy look in other ways, like making her look a bit more thin and gaunt, they could've had a top notch look.
My daughter and I used to religiously watch this show. This was such a FUN video. Great idea!🎉❤
Man, i loved Face-Off and we watched it with my family when it was on
I tried watching an episode of Face Off with my nephew and he loved it at first... Until the judging section... He thought it was way too mean and I don't blame him for that- I also don't watch competition shows for the same reason
i literally squealed when i saw this in my timeline haha!! so excited for this video!!! 🥰👏👏
I loved this show, it was so interesting to see different people interpretation of different theme
I think Frankie wasn't included for some obscure copyright reason.
I was a HUGE Face Off fan and I have absolutely no memory of this omg
Cleo looks just like like how she does in the movie and the draculaura reminds of her skullector doll lol
I remember watching this episode when it aired and I was so excited aaaaaaannnnd...yeah. I adored this show, so having two things I loved meet up was so cool, but it was just...I mean...Chewlian....omg Chewlian... I want a purse of that Skelita purse. Her shoes and purse from that doll (G1 I heart accessories) are some of my faaaaavorites, ugh i love them! It was such a strange prize to give, like-why? They could have done something spooky but MH merch? Like, I would have liked that, all of us here would have liked that (although it was G2....) but professional monster makeup artists? whyyy
I went to a makeup school in LA where a lot of my teachers were on Face Off. Every single one of them are all bitter and jaded towards the show and say it ruined their careers because now the union (what hires artists for movies) don’t take them as serious artists for being on the show. They cast a lot out of my school, but no one I went to school with that year auditioned because all of our teachers were bitter. Even the ones that won/went far on the show!
As an avid enjoyer of both shows in my youth, how did I not know about this!?!? Thank you for this video!