Elway is the reason I stayed an NFL fan after leaving home and watching games with my dad. I was 23 in 1983, and Elway made every game feel important. In my opinion, his rare talent made him the greatest player of his era, and his accomplishments as the Broncos' GM are underrated. Josh Allen is the closest thing to Elway today, though Elway's passing velocity was still significantly better. Like Elway, Allen is asked to do more for his team than anyone else in football. I hope, for Allen's sake, he finds a coach like Mike Shanahan to help him succeed.
It may sound fatuous, but I was initially drawn to that blazing orange jersey. Then Elway got drafted, and that combination kept me a fanatic for the next 14 years. Then....they dropped my jersey, and, naturally, immediately won two rings...So, once Elway retired...SO DID I.
@@tgriffin3059 Are you referring to retiring as a Broncos fan or from your job? I'm no longer a fan of the Broncos, mainly due to the new ownership and Sean Payton. I believe his involvement in "Bounty Gate" violated the spirit of the game, and he doesn't deserve to coach in the NFL. Some might call me fatuous for my decision, but integrity and character still matter to me.
@@AlanBennett866 Yeah, I meant retirement as a Broncos fan. I know some people find it odd, but I do not cheer for teams unless I like the uniform. I guess it's because in most sports, you see the man, first. Basketball, baseball, soccer, boxing, tennis, golf, gymnastics...but in football, you see the uniform first, and it becomes a big part of their identity. I remain furious over the Denver change all these years later. I even purchased some old games on dvd, and enjoy watching those old Mile High home games as much as I did in the old days.
Might have been the most dynamic, physically gifted QB ever with an absolute cannon arm. I'll never forget the first time I saw him on TV, he was a sophomore at Stanford. I don't remember who they were playing, but he got flushed out of the pocket and had to roll to his left. As he was being chased and literally falling out of bounds, he fired a 50 yard strike (against his body) to Ken Margerum. I had never seen anybody at any level make a play like that, and I made a mental note that this is a guy to watch. Turns out I was onto something.
I'm a life long Hawks fan from the UK and I despise Elway and those orange bastards to this day. However I also have the utmost respect for John Elway back in the 80s , we had more talent both sides of the ball including some future HOF and yet this guy was in our way every year. He elevated every one around him and carried them to 3 SB, they had no right to be in. "The Drive " is only supplanted by Tom Brady's performance vs Falcons as the greatest exhibition of Quarterbacking under pressure I've ever seen. I was genuinely saddened when he retired because the game lost one of the GOATS . Go Hawks
Elways QB rating in his last 6 years, in a passing system would have been the all time record QB rating when he entered the league. He had like 3 total skill position pro-bowl teammates, and 1 offensive lineman in his first 10 seasons. He also passed in suboptimal down and distance on average because of the team strategy. His last 6 years rates, when he was past his physical prime were almost identical to Marino's and Montana's career rates, including their primes.
@@ChrisBarry-h5h He had no support on offense, he played in a low efficiency system, but his last 6 years past his prime he had the same QB rating as Marino+Montana averaged between them, about 89. Marino was 86 and Montana was 92 and Elway was 89 over his final 6 years. Why did his stats suddenly come up in his mid to late 30s?
...and coaching. Dan Reeves was a ground and pound coach and had a fairly conservative passing playbook, which is why Elway lobbied so hard for Mike Shanahan to replace Dan Reeves. in the end, he made up with Dan and had him at his HOF induction.
He was so special. The Broncos were never out of it with him. That's why he retired with the most career comebacks. If he had Mike Shanahan as a coach for most of his career, his numbers would have been a lot higher. He probably would have won more Super Bowls as well.
Elway had the ability (particularly at the end of games) to outrun defensive linemen. This gave him time to find a receiver to throw to time after time. As a KC chiefs fan it was so frustrating to watching him and Denver beat KC. I did not understand why they did not change out linemen for DBs that could catch him.
As a New Englander a game vs Elway was always an event. Pats even dropped the cabin pressure on the plane to start to get used to Denver. Or so the legend goes. Anyway it was always a nail biter. And Moon was blast to watch too. Even in New England there were Roethlisberger tees that looked like the Budweiser Label.
I watched those three first Superbowl losses and it really hurt but Elway came back strong and determined to win against the packers and then again against the falcons, so kind of redeemed himself, although in early years was let down by the rest of the team. Elway, despite not having the same offensive lines as the 49ers or in later years the patriots still managed to shine and will always be my favorite QB. Talented passer, strongest arm I have seen and a great scrambler and smart at the same time. 1980's - 1990's best NFL years!
I must say despite seeing Elway and the Broncos break the hearts of Browns fans -- Twice (see the Fumble AND, especially, the Drive ... ugh) I was rooting for John Elway to win a Super Bowl. I say he is the best QB I ever watched play with only Tom Brady and Peyton Manning offering the obvious argument as the best. Patrick Mahomes is the other now playing argument. Special Mention for: Joe Montana; and non Super Bowl winners Dan Marino and Warren Moon. Steve Young is another QB who really deserved a Super Bowl win (and got it).
John Elway was an absolute beast that took 3 "meh" offenses to Super Bowls in the late 80s. Once he finally got a legitimate running back and offensive line, he got the Championships he deserved.
Absolutely. It's like what they refer to at the Olympics as 'degree of difficulty'. It's not something you'll pick up looking at a stat sheet. But if you SEE it, you recognize it.
The two best college QB's I have ever seen were John Elway at Stanford and Dan Marino at Pitt...it was obvious to me that they were already the two best QB's in country before either graduated.
Can only imagine just how many records he’d have if he played in this “don’t hit the QB” league we have now?! And for the first 12 years he didn’t have many offensive weapons to speak of…. Sammy Winder… Bobby Humphrey…. When he finally got a coach who built an offensive line and gave him a RB he….won two Super Bowls!! Should really have won three
Dan Reeves was an effective coach. He won every place he went. Very few coaches manage that. A few, like Parcells or Schottenheimer, won for multiple teams, but it's a short list. Reeves had winning records on THREE NFL teams. He should be in the Hall of Fame(as should Marty).
Elway was the best. Most people who are in the GOAT conversation are not even in his class. Brady and Manning look like school boys next to him. If people understood who Elway was, they'd be calling Jordan the Elway of the NBA.
He was the most talented in terms of doing more with an average or above average overall team than any other. Montana and Brady played on better lines and teams overall. Marino and Favre were similarly great.
I went to his first Pre-season game against the defending Superbowl Champions('83)Washington Redskins(Commanders Now). What's funny was Steve DeBerg was our Q.B. from the year before and he previously played behind Montana in S.F. , hince was traded to Denver. Elway started the game and believe it or not everyone was booing because they wanted DeBerg in instead, because up to that point Elway wasn't really getting anything done other than 3 and out. Again that's when the booing started but this time Elway scrambled left to right then launched this perfect T.D. bomb 70 yards to Rick Upchurch and from that moment on we never ever heard a boo again when Elway was playing. Everyone knew back then if we ever got to the Superbowl, the only chance we would ever have win is with John Elway(which would happen 14 and 15 years later in '97, '98)😊!!!
REALLY THE FACTS, IT WAS SEATTLE SEAHAWKS??? uh??? MORE FACTS RAIDERS WERE THE DEFENDING SUPER BOWL CHAMPS THEY BEAT THE REDSKINS??? I was there Deberg started the game WHEN ELWAY CAME IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SECOND MILE HIGH WAS SHAKING EVERYONE WAS STANDING ELWAY SCORED A TD ON HIS FIRST DRIVE THE WAS THE MESSIAH HAS ARRIVED!!! THAT IS WHAT IT FELT LIKE ... THE JOY oF THE FANS GAVE YOU GOOSE BUMBS I SET THE BETAMAX WHEN I WENT TO THE GAME LOL WATCH IT OVER AND OVER LOL NO IDEA WHAT MR DEMENTIA is talking about LMFAO BTW NOBODY BOOED ELWAY AT HIS FIRST HOME GAME ????? WTF EVERYONE WAS CHEERING AND GIVING HIM A STANDING OVATION
@@spacelion4763 Why would ANYBODY say that? Allen has been a fine player, but the comparison is way premature. They both had the mobility and arm strength, but Elway made plays under physical duress, with the game on the line, that put him in a class by himself. He absorbed the equivalent to being hit by a freight train, and yet virtually never missed a snap. He wasn't just tough and durable...he was like a slab of granite. Watching Elway play in his prime...the late 80's to early 90's...is like watching the 15th round of a Rocky Balboa fight. Seeing a guy endure brutal beatings, and suddenly produce miracles at the end....except Rocky was fictional. Staubach should be in any conversation for best ever, but he didn't have the overall physical package that Elway had. Montana, same basic thing. Elway was the Gold Standard.
I taped his first three seasons when i go back and watch these poor quality video tapes he does things in REALLY BAD SITUATIONS TO MAKE PLAYS that are supernatural and people make a big deal out Mahomes. the pkysicallity the speed of the ball throwing to guys you dont remember or dpnt want to remember. There is no comparison Mahomes is good nut watching those tapes Mahomes talent is no where near Elway's it is not even close. Elway is the most talented human ever to play QB
Wrong. He actually played well and made some tremendous throws in his first SB, against the Giants. Just had no help as usual. The next 2 were not good performances but the 4th and 5th SB's he played in he won. (And for the record, it's 'didn't play very 'well', ....not didn't play very 'good'.) The Broncos of the 1980's were avg. at best, and had no business making those super bowls. Elway's superior play was the only reason they were there. No QB was more physically gifted, more competitive, or more clutch....top 2-3 of all-time.
@@BruceDavidson-z1t His first and last Super Bowls are okay. I'm sure he did make good throws and good completions but overall his Super Bowl stats aren't that good, a respectable 50% completion% but only 3 passing TDs, 8 INTs, and a 59.3 passer rating. He has 4 rushing TDs in Super Bowls which is something but he didn't get it done with his arm. Maybe his receivers failed him.
@@BruceDavidson-z1t Yeah, when you consider WHO that defense was....and how they had dominated against Montana in the playoffs...I thought Elway's individual performance was actually quite impressive.If nothing else, shows how little stats really matter...his numbers from his FIRST Super Bowl, where he lost, were almost identical to his stats from his LAST Super Bowl, where he not only won but was MVP. And he actually started out playing well against Washington...then the bottom fell out, and he got swept away along with the rest of the team.
@@candlestick1231 True greatness has nothing to do with stats. They may occasionally overlap, but that's hardly a guaranteed thing. If you've seen Elway, or Walter Payton, or Randy Moss...you'd know that true greatness may show up on the stat sheet, or it might not....but watching Elway throw for 200 was often more impressive than seeing the ordinary qb throw for 400...Seeing Payton run for 100 was more impressive than seeing most backs go for 200. If you haven't seen Moss go sailing up into the sky to snag a pass...you can read his stats all day and have no IDEA what he was...
Unless you lived in the Mountain Time Zone, and given your "candlestick" tag I'd say you didn't, this idea you're flouting about shines you as a Montana fan, and that's fine... but everyone that ever watched Montana's career knows he couldn't take a hit. Period. NFC Championship games against the Giants twice showed he was not a stout bodied quarterback. His lone venture into the AFC and the Championship game against the Bills also demonstrated he lacked the testicular fortitude needed to play tough... he just couldn't take a hit. Just as Montana couldn't take a hit, he didn't win four SB's on his own. Ever. His team was a complete team in every one of those contests and they won because of ALL three phases of offense, defense, and special teams being at their best. The fourth phase to any team is coaching, and definitely the Montana years in the Bay area the 'niners had the best. That can't be said about Elway's teams until SB-XXXII and XXXIII. When it mattered in XXXII, John Elway did something that Joe Montana could only dream about... he initiated and took a hit that would have broken Montana in half. When you have a HoF player like Terrell Davis, an offensive line coach such as Alex Gibbs, an O-line that can deliver in the clutch, a defense that can win games when the offense is struggling, and a special teams that could keep you in games all day long, guess what? You win SB's. Not by yourself, but as a team. Yes, John Elway didn't play very good in his second and third SB's, but he was able to beat the best the AFC had in those years in the respective AFC-CG's... in the last two SB's of Elway's career he didn't play very good, he played perfect in XXXII and shined like a diamond in XXXIII. To be fair, I do recall Montana playing and taking hard hits, and it was the '79 Cotton Bowl while he was at Notre Dame. He was beyond pale, gaunt, and sick... iv's, hot packs, and demonstrated will allowed him to get a mediocre Notre Dame squad an unbelievable victory after being down 34-12 at one point in that game. You might want to review SB-XXXII and XXXIII.
Marino was a fine player, but hardly in the same class as Elway. The point of a game is to WIN...not to compile stats, or to scream at linemen. No man ever contributed more to his teams' victories than John Elway.
John took 3 not very good teams to the Superbowl. He literally carried those teams on his back.
When he retired, he had most wins, most passing yards and was the only quarterback to start 5 superbowls
Marino had more passing yards. But you are correct on the rest.
It's really important to understand he wasn't on great teams every season. He was always dangerous and no team thought otherwise.
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Elway is the reason I stayed an NFL fan after leaving home and watching games with my dad. I was 23 in 1983, and Elway made every game feel important. In my opinion, his rare talent made him the greatest player of his era, and his accomplishments as the Broncos' GM are underrated. Josh Allen is the closest thing to Elway today, though Elway's passing velocity was still significantly better. Like Elway, Allen is asked to do more for his team than anyone else in football. I hope, for Allen's sake, he finds a coach like Mike Shanahan to help him succeed.
It may sound fatuous, but I was initially drawn to that blazing orange jersey. Then Elway got drafted, and that combination kept me a fanatic for the next 14 years. Then....they dropped my jersey, and, naturally, immediately won two rings...So, once Elway retired...SO DID I.
@@tgriffin3059 Are you referring to retiring as a Broncos fan or from your job? I'm no longer a fan of the Broncos, mainly due to the new ownership and Sean Payton. I believe his involvement in "Bounty Gate" violated the spirit of the game, and he doesn't deserve to coach in the NFL. Some might call me fatuous for my decision, but integrity and character still matter to me.
@@AlanBennett866 Yeah, I meant retirement as a Broncos fan. I know some people find it odd, but I do not cheer for teams unless I like the uniform. I guess it's because in most sports, you see the man, first. Basketball, baseball, soccer, boxing, tennis, golf, gymnastics...but in football, you see the uniform first, and it becomes a big part of their identity. I remain furious over the Denver change all these years later. I even purchased some old games on dvd, and enjoy watching those old Mile High home games as much as I did in the old days.
@@tgriffin3059 I actually loved the new uniforms when Manning was there and they wore the all-orange uniforms.
Might have been the most dynamic, physically gifted QB ever with an absolute cannon arm. I'll never forget the first time I saw him on TV, he was a sophomore at Stanford. I don't remember who they were playing, but he got flushed out of the pocket and had to roll to his left. As he was being chased and literally falling out of bounds, he fired a 50 yard strike (against his body) to Ken Margerum. I had never seen anybody at any level make a play like that, and I made a mental note that this is a guy to watch. Turns out I was onto something.
I'm a life long Hawks fan from the UK and I despise Elway and those orange bastards to this day. However I also have the utmost respect for John Elway back in the 80s , we had more talent both sides of the ball including some future HOF and yet this guy was in our way every year. He elevated every one around him and carried them to 3 SB, they had no right to be in. "The Drive " is only supplanted by Tom Brady's performance vs Falcons as the greatest exhibition of Quarterbacking under pressure I've ever seen. I was genuinely saddened when he retired because the game lost one of the GOATS . Go Hawks
Brady, Montana, Elway, Favre, Marino, Manning, Brees, Moon, Young, Rogers, Aikman, Warner, Mahomes, Kelly, Stafford. Best from the past 40 years.
My favorite qb. What a player
Elways QB rating in his last 6 years, in a passing system would have been the all time record QB rating when he entered the league. He had like 3 total skill position pro-bowl teammates, and 1 offensive lineman in his first 10 seasons. He also passed in suboptimal down and distance on average because of the team strategy. His last 6 years rates, when he was past his physical prime were almost identical to Marino's and Montana's career rates, including their primes.
Elway had a less than avg. QB rating and got demolished in 3 super bowls and only won when he had Terrel Davis and a stout D. Way overrated.
@@ChrisBarry-h5h He had no support on offense, he played in a low efficiency system, but his last 6 years past his prime he had the same QB rating as Marino+Montana averaged between them, about 89. Marino was 86 and Montana was 92 and Elway was 89 over his final 6 years. Why did his stats suddenly come up in his mid to late 30s?
...and coaching. Dan Reeves was a ground and pound coach and had a fairly conservative passing playbook, which is why Elway lobbied so hard for Mike Shanahan to replace Dan Reeves. in the end, he made up with Dan and had him at his HOF induction.
He was so special. The Broncos were never out of it with him. That's why he retired with the most career comebacks. If he had Mike Shanahan as a coach for most of his career, his numbers would have been a lot higher. He probably would have won more Super Bowls as well.
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Elway had the ability (particularly at the end of games) to outrun defensive linemen. This gave him time to find a receiver to throw to time after time. As a KC chiefs fan it was so frustrating to watching him and Denver beat KC. I did not understand why they did not change out linemen for DBs that could catch him.
As a New Englander a game vs Elway was always an event. Pats even dropped the cabin pressure on the plane to start to get used to Denver. Or so the legend goes. Anyway it was always a nail biter. And Moon was blast to watch too. Even in New England there were Roethlisberger tees that looked like the Budweiser Label.
I watched those three first Superbowl losses and it really hurt but Elway came back strong and determined to win against the packers and then again against the falcons, so kind of redeemed himself, although in early years was let down by the rest of the team. Elway, despite not having the same offensive lines as the 49ers or in later years the patriots still managed to shine and will always be my favorite QB. Talented passer, strongest arm I have seen and a great scrambler and smart at the same time. 1980's - 1990's best NFL years!
That was the irony...he was the only reason they were anywhere NEAR the Super Bowl, to BEGIN with...
I must say despite seeing Elway and the Broncos break the hearts of Browns fans -- Twice (see the Fumble AND, especially, the Drive ... ugh) I was rooting for John Elway to win a Super Bowl. I say he is the best QB I ever watched play with only Tom Brady and Peyton Manning offering the obvious argument as the best. Patrick Mahomes is the other now playing argument.
Special Mention for: Joe Montana; and non Super Bowl winners Dan Marino and Warren Moon. Steve Young is another QB who really deserved a Super Bowl win (and got it).
John Elway was an absolute beast that took 3 "meh" offenses to Super Bowls in the late 80s. Once he finally got a legitimate running back and offensive line, he got the Championships he deserved.
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John Elway in my opinion is the greatest QB of all time. No one could do what he did
Absolutely. It's like what they refer to at the Olympics as 'degree of difficulty'. It's not something you'll pick up looking at a stat sheet. But if you SEE it, you recognize it.
The two best college QB's I have ever seen were John Elway at Stanford and Dan Marino at Pitt...it was obvious to me that they were already the two best QB's in country before either graduated.
Can only imagine just how many records he’d have if he played in this “don’t hit the QB” league we have now?! And for the first 12 years he didn’t have many offensive weapons to speak of…. Sammy Winder… Bobby Humphrey…. When he finally got a coach who built an offensive line and gave him a RB he….won two Super Bowls!! Should really have won three
He did more with less
John was a legend!
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John Elway sucked.
The Elway cross *X*
Elway was, statistically, a much better passer in his latter years than his early years in the NFL.
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That was because of Shanahan. Reeves was three yards and a pile of dust play caller.
The parallels with Eli Manning are interesting
He was painfully great
Dan Reeves ruined his early years and Mike Shanahan made his later years. Was better than what we saw.
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Dan Reeves was an effective coach. He won every place he went. Very few coaches manage that. A few, like Parcells or Schottenheimer, won for multiple teams, but it's a short list. Reeves had winning records on THREE NFL teams. He should be in the Hall of Fame(as should Marty).
Trash take
Elway was the best. Most people who are in the GOAT conversation are not even in his class. Brady and Manning look like school boys next to him. If people understood who Elway was, they'd be calling Jordan the Elway of the NBA.
JOHN ELWAY was the BEST PLAYER EVER!!!!!!!
John Elway Peyton Manning and Tom Brady and Kirk cousins lol ....jk just the 3
He was the most talented in terms of doing more with an average or above average overall team than any other. Montana and Brady played on better lines and teams overall. Marino and Favre were similarly great.
@@mikemccormick8115 well said 💯💯
The Duke had the 3 Amiggos. Montana had Rice and Taylor
Great time
Great team
I went to his first Pre-season game against the defending Superbowl Champions('83)Washington Redskins(Commanders Now). What's funny was Steve DeBerg was our Q.B. from the year before and he previously played behind Montana in S.F. , hince was traded to Denver. Elway started the game and believe it or not everyone was booing because they wanted DeBerg in instead, because up to that point Elway wasn't really getting anything done other than 3 and out. Again that's when the booing started but this time Elway scrambled left to right then launched this perfect T.D. bomb 70 yards to Rick Upchurch and from that moment on we never ever heard a boo again when Elway was playing. Everyone knew back then if we ever got to the Superbowl, the only chance we would ever have win is with John Elway(which would happen 14 and 15 years later in '97, '98)😊!!!
REALLY THE FACTS, IT WAS SEATTLE SEAHAWKS??? uh??? MORE FACTS RAIDERS WERE THE DEFENDING SUPER BOWL CHAMPS THEY BEAT THE REDSKINS???
I was there Deberg started the game WHEN ELWAY CAME IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SECOND MILE HIGH WAS SHAKING EVERYONE WAS STANDING ELWAY SCORED A TD ON HIS FIRST DRIVE
THE WAS THE MESSIAH HAS ARRIVED!!!
THAT IS WHAT IT FELT LIKE ... THE JOY oF THE FANS GAVE YOU GOOSE BUMBS I SET THE BETAMAX WHEN I WENT TO THE GAME LOL WATCH IT OVER AND OVER LOL
NO IDEA WHAT MR DEMENTIA is talking about LMFAO
BTW NOBODY BOOED ELWAY AT HIS FIRST HOME GAME ????? WTF EVERYONE WAS CHEERING AND GIVING HIM A STANDING OVATION
He was pretty good. But not good enough to beat the San Jose Spartans.
Elway is Elway not josh allen
Is it possible to talk with you? It will be beneficial for you. Btw this video is great and also the script.
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Elway was Josh Allen before Josh Allen
Completely agree
He was light years better than Allen
@@markshields5883 Why would you say that?
@@spacelion4763 Why would ANYBODY say that? Allen has been a fine player, but the comparison is way premature. They both had the mobility and arm strength, but Elway made plays under physical duress, with the game on the line, that put him in a class by himself. He absorbed the equivalent to being hit by a freight train, and yet virtually never missed a snap. He wasn't just tough and durable...he was like a slab of granite. Watching Elway play in his prime...the late 80's to early 90's...is like watching the 15th round of a Rocky Balboa fight. Seeing a guy endure brutal beatings, and suddenly produce miracles at the end....except Rocky was fictional. Staubach should be in any conversation for best ever, but he didn't have the overall physical package that Elway had. Montana, same basic thing. Elway was the Gold Standard.
@@tgriffin3059 In terms of his physical makeup, Allen is EXACTLY like Elway. A carbon copy
I taped his first three seasons when i go back and watch these poor quality video tapes he does things in REALLY BAD SITUATIONS TO MAKE PLAYS that are supernatural and people make a big deal out Mahomes.
the pkysicallity the speed of the ball throwing to guys you dont remember or dpnt want to remember. There is no comparison Mahomes is good nut watching those tapes Mahomes talent is no where near Elway's it is not even close. Elway is the most talented human ever to play QB
Do you really have to add “actually “
For me only Montana was better than Elway
Well since you haven't watched football in 40 years....
Montana with the 3 amigos ? Yea ok :)
He played in 5 Super Bowls and he didn't play very good.
Wrong. He actually played well and made some tremendous throws in his first SB, against the Giants. Just had no help as usual. The next 2 were not good performances but the 4th and 5th SB's he played in he won. (And for the record, it's 'didn't play very 'well', ....not didn't play very 'good'.) The Broncos of the 1980's were avg. at best, and had no business making those super bowls. Elway's superior play was the only reason they were there. No QB was more physically gifted, more competitive, or more clutch....top 2-3 of all-time.
@@BruceDavidson-z1t His first and last Super Bowls are okay. I'm sure he did make good throws and good completions but overall his Super Bowl stats aren't that good, a respectable 50% completion% but only 3 passing TDs, 8 INTs, and a 59.3 passer rating. He has 4 rushing TDs in Super Bowls which is something but he didn't get it done with his arm. Maybe his receivers failed him.
@@BruceDavidson-z1t Yeah, when you consider WHO that defense was....and how they had dominated against Montana in the playoffs...I thought Elway's individual performance was actually quite impressive.If nothing else, shows how little stats really matter...his numbers from his FIRST Super Bowl, where he lost, were almost identical to his stats from his LAST Super Bowl, where he not only won but was MVP. And he actually started out playing well against Washington...then the bottom fell out, and he got swept away along with the rest of the team.
@@candlestick1231 True greatness has nothing to do with stats. They may occasionally overlap, but that's hardly a guaranteed thing. If you've seen Elway, or Walter Payton, or Randy Moss...you'd know that true greatness may show up on the stat sheet, or it might not....but watching Elway throw for 200 was often more impressive than seeing the ordinary qb throw for 400...Seeing Payton run for 100 was more impressive than seeing most backs go for 200. If you haven't seen Moss go sailing up into the sky to snag a pass...you can read his stats all day and have no IDEA what he was...
Unless you lived in the Mountain Time Zone, and given your "candlestick" tag I'd say you didn't, this idea you're flouting about shines you as a Montana fan, and that's fine... but everyone that ever watched Montana's career knows he couldn't take a hit. Period. NFC Championship games against the Giants twice showed he was not a stout bodied quarterback. His lone venture into the AFC and the Championship game against the Bills also demonstrated he lacked the testicular fortitude needed to play tough... he just couldn't take a hit. Just as Montana couldn't take a hit, he didn't win four SB's on his own. Ever. His team was a complete team in every one of those contests and they won because of ALL three phases of offense, defense, and special teams being at their best. The fourth phase to any team is coaching, and definitely the Montana years in the Bay area the 'niners had the best. That can't be said about Elway's teams until SB-XXXII and XXXIII. When it mattered in XXXII, John Elway did something that Joe Montana could only dream about... he initiated and took a hit that would have broken Montana in half. When you have a HoF player like Terrell Davis, an offensive line coach such as Alex Gibbs, an O-line that can deliver in the clutch, a defense that can win games when the offense is struggling, and a special teams that could keep you in games all day long, guess what? You win SB's. Not by yourself, but as a team. Yes, John Elway didn't play very good in his second and third SB's, but he was able to beat the best the AFC had in those years in the respective AFC-CG's... in the last two SB's of Elway's career he didn't play very good, he played perfect in XXXII and shined like a diamond in XXXIII. To be fair, I do recall Montana playing and taking hard hits, and it was the '79 Cotton Bowl while he was at Notre Dame. He was beyond pale, gaunt, and sick... iv's, hot packs, and demonstrated will allowed him to get a mediocre Notre Dame squad an unbelievable victory after being down 34-12 at one point in that game. You might want to review SB-XXXII and XXXIII.
Super Bowl 50 is the most rigged game ever!
How bout that guy Dan Marino? Superbowl or not, Dan was one of the best. Hands down better than the alcoholic from Denver.
Why the hell are you here? This is a video about John Elway’s greatness. GTFOH.
Marino was a fine player, but hardly in the same class as Elway. The point of a game is to WIN...not to compile stats, or to scream at linemen. No man ever contributed more to his teams' victories than John Elway.