Why are Mathews shooters switching to Elite Archery?
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- Опубликовано: 9 июл 2024
- Elite Archery just released their new target bow the Elite Verdict. This resulted in a massive amount of interest from Mathews shooters in the bow.
We asked the shooters why they would want to change from Mathews and what they liked about the Elite bows.
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I switched to Elite in 2017 when I got a NEW Impulse 31 for free. After a failed limb in 2021 and finding out they aren’t making any other 80lb limbs for my bow anymore…4 years. Mathews support/parts for all bows they have ever made forever.
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Thats a significant factor. Good to know
I’m very new to archery and my first bow is an Elite terrain. It’s good to hear I was pushed in the right direction! It doesn’t have all those fancy bells and whistles but I like it
Good bow for the money
As always, thanks for the videos and feedback. I'm still loving my Enkore. Can you share what release you're shooting? Cheers.
He shoots the Scott Ascent Micro! 👊🏼
My Darton Vegas has adj screw on stops that do the same thing as well , very easy to swap out and don’t come loose , you can really fine tune the let off and draw length !
I love my Enkore, but I picked a Mathews V3x for my New Zealand trip this past May. It just felt held better and felt better on shot, shooting better groups out to 80 yards. I guess the elite adjustability is better for the shooters over seas where you can’t get to shop and try different mods.
I bought the Victory X around the time you first reviewed it, and I loved it so much I bought a matte black one to have as my hunting/3d rig. There are fancier bows on the market but at the time it was under $900 I think and you'll pry that bow out of my cold, dead hands. Could not recommend it enough.
Switched from Hoyt to elite this year and absolutely love shooting my elite, I bought the envision
I ordered an Elite Verdict from Joel 2 days ago can’t wait for it to arrive.
Can’t wait for the Elite shootout!!!
I switched from a 2008 pse xforce to an elite remedy. I am sold on the remedy
Had a Mathews Halon X Comp. A great bow, but a pain to get new mods. In the end swapped to a Bowtech Reckoning 38, great adjustability for no extra costs.
I'm starting to get the feeling that I will be owning an Elite in the future. ❤️ my Prime bows but all the problems that u mentioned with being bow shop friendly exists with the Prime. New strings every other year is only as good as the shop that u deal with & Prime supporting that shop. I would rather get to the point where my Prime's have brand new strings & cables & selling them off. I feel that the Elite grips r pretty close to the Prime grips minus the Nano NASA technology. The feel of the grip for consistent shooting is 1st & foremost like it should be with everyone.
I don't mean this to come off the wrong way because im just genuinely curious. What are they saying is hard about the trx series? Changing strings on a trx is pretty standard nothing crazy with them ( the v3 and v3x on the other hand is bit more involved with the yokes), and shimming the cams is probably the most simple setup i've personally worked on because it just swaping the entire top hat spacer out for different sets, instead of stacking washers like my wifes athens.
it's not only the costs for the modules - mostly you have to opt also for a top-hat kit for successful paper tuning when you change the modules, that's another AU$ 110 you have to cash out (Hoyt sells the shimming kit for approx. AU$ 30) ...and then there are the quality issues with the limbs and bearings for longer DLs (longer DL --> bow has to cope with more energy) Matthews has (Traverse, 3 set of limbs, bearings replacements I don't count anymore....)....
I am seeing a lot of Mathew’s shoots in my area (south east US) swapping to PSE and Bowtech not had anyone shoot the Elite’s in the shop in a bit anyone who does says they don’t like it as much as the old Elites from what I shot of there new target bow (I can’t give 100% feedback as they only had RH models ready the day they release it and had at the ASA) but i wish they would had made a version with a a longer ATA and longer draw length for long draw guys like myself
I'll probably keep my kure till it rots. Love that bow
And what about the new Hoyt Stratos?
My archery shop set up my bow and we tried modules out until we got the right draw length. Any micro adjustments were done with DLoop length. This just sounds like a promotion for elite.
I think Steve's had the pip with mathews for a while now..
Good Stuff!
Would love to see you review the Verdict. It has the new cams with 3 different modules, micro adjust etc. Different than the cams on the reZult's etc. Love your reviews, I have learned a ton from you. Really appreciate all the effort you put into your videos. Thanks from Canada eh.
Why Elite though? Is Hoyt not available as readily?
Interesting - I have never thought of Elite.
They are! I shot an elite and it was so twangy and cheap feeling. I will try one now though, thanks for video. I love my Halon 32 to death. I shoot so well with it, gonna be a while still before I hunt with anything else.
Good for you! Don't fall for the hype.
@@capricornmagic63 OK Mathews Fanboy . its not Hype its just a review. and they are a nice bow if your looking to upgrade and dont want the BS of Modules and grips add on sales greed like Mathews makes you do with their HYPE and scams
This is why I switched from the Mathews V3X to the Hoyt Ventum Pro.
I was a Hoyt fan before and decided to try Mathews for a 2nd time but once again I was underwhelmed. Glad I switched back to Hoyt!
That’s how I feel about Hoyt I tried to like them, but in the end they are just not as smooth or quiet as a Mathew’s. They are an almost bow. Almost as nice as a Mathew’s lol
@@matthewkyle6939 you’re crazy if you think Hoyts aren’t smoother. I’ll concede Mathews are generally quieter but definitely not smoother. Not even close.
@@americanbigfoot7881 I disagree. I just shot them. I think they are close but I prefer the Mathew’s. Personal preference
@@matthewkyle6939 you just shot them? Like at a shop? I’ve owned multiple of both brands over the last 20+ years. So I have many years and arrows through both brands. Hoyt by far are known to have smoother bows and Mathews are known for being quieter.
I respect that each person’s experience is different and to you personally that may be the case but across the market Hoyts are known for being smooth.
@@americanbigfoot7881 no lol they are not. I as well have owned both. I have actually owned more Hoyt’s than Mathew’s. I have been into archery since around 2007. I really liked both Hoyt’s I owned. Not bashing them, I loved my carbon element back in like 2011. I also had an Hoyt axious alpha. Good little bow. I have had a few bowtechs i liked, but by far the Mathew’s have been better to me. I don’t think they make a smoother bow than Mathew’s. But everyone is different. I thought about buying the vtm just for the 80 pound limbs but there was just too much more vibration than the Mathew’s. I can get get 75 pound mods and be happy. Just waiting to see what comes out for 2024. I will still try the Hoyt, but it will be hard to sway me from Mathew’s.
I went from a matthews to an elite envision best choice I've ever made its everything my matthews was and then some
The grip on the elite verdict is the best grip I've personally ever shot. I really really like the grip
Always wanted to know how engineers gonna minimize all this headache with tunability and maintenance.
These same shooters will be buying a new bow next year, claiming the new bow is the best, most amazing bow they've ever shot.
Well it will come in a new colour..
Not unless the other manufacturers find a way to mimic the elites adjustability without patent issues - coz the 1% let off adjustments etc are game changing.
I'm guessing ur the type of guy that shot a matthews 15 years ago and were like there the best ever made I'll never shoot another bow.. well you are missing out bud matthews isn't shkt anymore
@@andrewjames3822 Never shot a Mathews, in fact I don't believe I've ever picked one up. I've owned five bows over the years: two Hoyts, two Merlin and now this one and I shan't be buying another. Rzults a decent bow and it does what I need it to, it's just not that special.
@@andrewjames3822
Let me guess
You shoot inferior bow because you can’t afford a Mathews.
Hahahaha
I got a Enkore.
shop is to far to adjust draw length or shimming .
and bow press is out of budget.
i love the tilting my cams vs moving arrow rest and leveling at that 13/16
I bought a new bow for the first time since 09 last week. I looked at the elites and they were very impressive, I ended up with the Matthew’s V3x 33 because it just felt a little better in my hand.
I just traded my v3x 33 for an envision
I just wish I could afford a new bow lol. I have the bowtech realm ss right now but I have shot the matthews v3x 33 and love it
@@marvinbland7309 They’re expensive that’s for sure. As much as I love my new bow, it’s not like it’s worlds better than my old one. I shot the diamond very well.
The need to buy modules just to make small adjustments has kept me from buying certain bows. In particular, Mathews. I don't need the prestige of shooting a certain brand bow as much as I need to be able to get the bow to fit my needs without any B.S.
Buy em used for 40$ and sell your old ones They're more efficient with the mods
Why? You don’t keep changing your draw length! You use the same mod always! Why would you need to buy others?
@@toddlymburner5783 I like the option of being able to tweak the fit of a bow. Particularly during those first few months when Im getting used to shooting it. Also a 27" draw of brand A might not actually be the same as a 27" of brand B. Options and adjustability are good.
@@Waty8413 you can still do that thought! Putting twists in and out of the main string is how you micro adjust any bow once you got the closest mod! Nobody continues to change your draw length! Your DL should never change.
@@pizzahunter808 NO their Not. Rubbish no more or less efficient than any tuned bow , it is just 100% add on sales to pull more dollars out of the owners pocket. Hence why they dont come with a kit of modules with every Bow .The cost a fk all to make . Mathews is just greedy
Review the Verdict if you can! I’d like to know how the tunability relates to the BowTech dead-lock system!
They still have the same set technology so it's just the limbs tilt for cam lean instead of the deadlocks system which is more like a shim anyway I shot threw paper no adjustment needed out of box on remedy except rest was a touch off then set technology and after bullethole and 3rd arrow sighting in was Robinhooded. But it would be good to see a side by side comparison
I have the bowtech revolt. The deadlock cams are great and the flip disc tech is awesome. Wt my rest at 13/16 . I can paper tune any arrow.
@@robertmiller6822 No it has a few other features you have missed over the other elites. its the next step up .
@@wcwcgarner2717 I can paper tune any arrow , it how long it takes mate.
@@travistwwreck1535 yeah I know mate it looks awesome with new cams, 1% letoff increments, longer riser but the have also changed how the limbs pockets attached to riser but as in the comment asked it still has set technology which has been on the last 2 years bows and I was talking about tuning in another comment above I've already mentioned that I didn't think elite could make there bows more tunable but thus year they have but still same old set tech for tuning and cable rollers only real big difference is cams and micro adjust on letoff
I still hunt with my 2015 Synergy, I don't think any bow manufacture has made enough improvements for me to upgrade. Its only a hunting rig. deer/bear works fine every time.
Mathews`s income scheme is probably similar to a Cinema. Ticket/Bow is not the most expensive on the market but they're cashing on popcorn/accessories. If I sum up all the mods I bought and replacement grip because stock one is terrible then I could easily have Invicta/Citation and some spare change. Everything is super expensive, and then there might even be a problem when your specific mod is not in stock. I already ranted about Mathews in similar places and I am not suprised some people also lost their patience with them. Feels like a win. Top hat master kit to tune cam lean is... :(
But the bow itself is still good, shoots great. Not a single problem with it. But man it could be so much better. Little things ruins it for me.
Spot On . 😊
Interesting, I have a Matthews V3X 29. I am a first time Matthews owner and just started working on my own bow. Took me only 5 min in the bow press to swap the top can top hats to adjust the tare. I did not find it hard. I do agree with the can modules though. A bit of a pain to make adjustments. I like the 80% let off and those are hard to get. Ordered my 70Lbs 80% can mods and took 2 months to get it. If I bought the Hoyt Ventom pro It is just a adjustment. Overall I love the Matthews.
Sorry sunshine . You are talking utter BS mate. The cam axle has to be removed and the differant tpp[ hats removed and installed. It took way longer than 5 fking Minutes unless you did it wrong. Every Pro Ive seen do it take 10-15 minutes per swap and you often make 2-3 changes to remove the tuning issue ,That equals an hour of time by a Pro shop not 5 fking minutes , Please spew your rubbish somewhere else Jeff , Steve has lots of Archers follow his page and many with years of experiance ,I will never own a Mathews due to the over complicated process of setting it up. and I too are in the market for the new Elite Verdict ,Deposit paid. Mathews can get stuffed and the American Market is leaning this way too. The fact you said 70lbs tells me your most likely over bow'ed and under experienced to make comments . Move on
Someone asked me which bow to buy: elite Rezult or I think some PSE. I don’t even remember the brand but I haven’t forgotten the Rezult.
From what I could see they were both quality bows in their price ranges but the sheer ease of adjustability from the Rezult seemed like a no brainer.
Your already spending 1400 on a bow who wants to spend hundreds on modules dialing it in. The opportunities to experiment and try new things won’t break the bank.
Plus it comes in this amazing blue color. I don’t shoot compound really and I want one!
PSE has rotating mods just like the Rezult. Hopefully the person asking you wasn't a shorter draw length. The Rezult loose speed horribly at shorter draw lengths. I had to switch from a Rezult to a PSE just to be able to make an 80 yard field shot. This new Elite looks promising and I've heard good things about it.
Loving the honest feedback, but lots of hurt feelings for the Mathews fanboys 😁 , I shot Mathews for years still a great bow ,but I switched to Elite when the Ritual 33 came out , still shooting it ,still loving it . Might have to shoot one these new Elites soon .👍🏼
After the omnia coming out, I'm for sure switching form almathews to elite
I have an elite Hunter and I’ve had it for 20 years best boy ever had hunting bow
Elite has only been around since 2005 that's 17 years where did you buy it 20 years ago 🤔
@@MrMattiezaya2 Why on earth would you bring facts into this argument. lol😁
my mathews bows are easy to put strings on and to shim cams zero problems tuning
These Elite bows can be adjusted without a press for fine tuning & obtain a draw cycle & let off to suit individual tastes. Mathews insist on their messy complicated top hat shim & module swaps for draw length with no let off adjustment, then to complicate matters further, their standard engage grip is a love/hate feature, with Mathews shooters spending more money on aftermarket grips. Eh ?
Mathews is just greedy and want add on sales . If they had a smart sales person they would include a set of Modules in popular sizes and a few different grips with the new Bow . They will soon change or lose customers . I wont own a Mathews
All those micro adjustments are also available on my Mybo Revolution 37. You skipped over all that when you reviewed that bow.
Check again . Some very new stuff on the Verdict
@@travistwwreck1535 I can check my own bow. But thanks for asking.
Modules or limb stop rings whats the difference? Oh yeah one is metal and wont break and one is silicone. And once your setup and tuned your not going to be changing your draw length or your strings lol.. and limbs that tilt? Pssh…More stuff to worry about coming loose during a match. Im not making the switch
imagine the kind of adjustability bowtech gives, infinite draw length and let off adjustment and better tuning method where you don't move the limbs
Read the feed back about bowtech , it not rating very well. The elite is fast becoming the bow of choice in America Ive heard way to many people swapping to this brand including Bowtech owners.
@@travistwwreck1535 why tho, bowtech has everything other bows does and more, how do you run 65% let off on elites?
@@travistwwreck1535 where do i read that feedback?
@@dusanpavlovic2201 Why would you want 65% let off , Buy a recurve if you want to hold that much. Get on the Archery forums and type in the latest bowtech models and read, seach you tube lots on here. Bowtech are no where near as good as an Elite , I would say the worst Bows in 2022 so far . To expensive, shit warranty, lots of issues.
@@travistwwreck1535 what issues, you got best tuning, infinite adjustment, 2 mods and you can flip them, is that why every pro shoots 65% let off on invicta cuz that's bad?
Everyone is a sucker for.... All the gidgets and gadgets they add to the bows
I use to b a Mathews shooter...had several as the years went by. My Monster 7 was the best bow I ever shot...yes I sold it. Why my shoulder got old. Went to a Hoyt Vector . Great bow but I missed my Monster still do today.. lol . Now iam looking at a Obsession Mako...yes Crazy but I like my options... Its the American Way...damn were lucky!!! Being a fan boy keeps you from being real... 😆 🤣 Crazy Wolf... out!
Shimming the cams on a Mathews is the easiest thing in the world, I can literally do it in 30 seconds
I remember growing up we would go to Walmart buy a bow and take it and kill deer with it. It seems archery is so complicated now
He’s started getting better discounts from elite! Their customer service is shit , I can’t get a set of modules , been trying for a year ! No one in the Uk will order them and elite won’t supply me .
What modules did you need dude on the new bows like speed mods or the older ones with the mods to change drawlength because I've got some speed mods for 2020 onwards and some ritual mods in 27
Really? I dry fired my Enkore a couple of months back and Steve and his crew at Archery Supplies simply ordered new Cams and modules from Elite in the US. I waited a couple of months, but that wait time is standard these days it seems from so many US branded gear. Any Elite dealer worth his salt in the UK would order you in what you need. Unless your modules are from a now obsolete model???
Maybe u should contact lancaster have them ship u
Steve is one of the most honest dealers out there, he's literally lost distributorships numerous times for being too honest.
I seriously doubt he's taking kickbacks.
Maybe he'll ship you the modules you're after - have you asked!?
@@NPC-fl3gq well said
Shooting a bullet without tuning is luck. Any bow can do it if the stars align. Just so happens that they did here.
Shimming cams is a ridiculous proposition. You practically need to tear and rebuild a bow. Most people just don't know how and don't have the tools to do it.
Ultimately, tuning should be a very tiny fraction of the bows life. How it performs after its been tuned is arguably more important than how easy it is to tune... I'd focus on that, and if both end up the same, I'd say use "tunability" as a tie breaker... But that shouldn't be a primary concern for a serious archer who'll spend most of the time shooting, not tuning.
I agree except when you start to get cam lean occasionally the set technology would be awesome on my prime black 9, I have set up numerous bows probably out of 25 bows 3or 4 have shot bulletholes out of box if I set centre shot perfect, but yeah I figured you can only do so much with a bow and the rest is on you but I still end up taking apart my bows if I don't like anything I've got bows were the limb deflection was wrong but yeah it sucks if you have to strip down a new bow but this set tech makes you not have to shim or limb swap but as you said it frigen sucks or is hard without the tools.
I’m sticking with my Mathews they are deadly accurate and no vibration at all….
Right cause after you shoot at a 12 point buck the first thing going through your head is “damn this bow is vibrating.” Such a BS argument. My RX7 has less “vibration” than any Mathew’s I’ve owned but personally it never bothered me and i never noticed it on any bow I’ve owned.
Mathews needs to catch up to every other bow company and put rotating mods then they would be maybe a top contenders in my eyes, I actually think mathew are a solid bow but I won't buy another one, my elite remedy is a sweet bow but that verdict looks awesome 1% letoff change, I didn't think they could do much more to their bows with quarter inch increments, 70 -90% letoff, set tech, cable rollers that actually move and cable stops and limbstops.
Rotating cam mods aren't as efficient. Speeds plummet when you go lower in the module.
@@pizzahunter808 yeah I know mate I'd still rather rotating modules with adjustable let off and quarter inch increments and they are way easier to sell later on but some bows have a couple modules to cover the lower and longer drawlengths like my athens goes at 25-27.5 then next mod ends at around 28-31, hoyt, pse and a few other brand have this sort draw bows or long draw or a middle range it's just something all companies are doing now but as I said mathews is a solid bow just have owned one and can't justify spending 100 bucks just to change my lettoff. When elite has 70-90% adjustment nearly every other bow on the market has adjustable letoff, mathews are a awesome bow it's just even with their mods you'll see a big difference in speed on the same bow a 25inch compared to 30inch no matter what bow it is, plus I'm about comfort over speed.
This summarised my thoughts as well. I have a traverse but the remedy looks to be very similar with a LOT of options to quickly change finer details.
@@Bluesplayer789 it is a sweet bow mate but I still shoot my pse evl 34 just as much , I've got the enkore aswell but don't like the speed mods compared to the original mods the remedy has, still everytime I shoot a new bow there is hard to find much wrong with.
One thing I don’t get about people that complain about the mods, do they try a bow before then shoot one? Your draw length doesn’t change, and most bows give 10# range from max weight. Let off I get but they might be comparing older Mathews Bows so a new Elite bow. Tuning for my V3X 33 was 15 minutes. The quarter inch adjust is amazing though for Elite.
I went from a caliper release to a thumb release. Changed my draw by 1/2 in. So on top of buying a release to try, I'd have had to buy new mods too. No thanks. I've shot Mathews for 20 yrs before I decided to buy a cheaper bow to hunt with. Saved $1000 and very satisfied.
@@skeegets2 what does mods have to do with you spending a 1.000 dollars? All they had to do is tune a little in strings/cables. Lengthen your loop some. Anyways mods are only 59.95. You bought a used bow, from a shop, and they wouldn't exchange mods for you? Mmmm if not must not be to good of a shop. Pro shop I go to would with no problem.
Who said used? Only $60.... You read a whole lot of stuff I never said I bought a new bow with all the mods in the box. Not 1 set, all of them. Difference in price of a new Mathews and mine was almost 1000. I do all the work on my own bow. Im not running to the dealer anytime I wanna change something. I knew a Mathews die hard would eventually come along and say something dumb and here you are. I love Mathews bows but their shooters are always online missing the point.
@@skeegets2 The truth is you get what you pay for in archery save $1000 upfront spend a crapload of time keeping it in tune/frustrated...
@@stephengatley8144 you do you. I spent a lot less and couldn't be happier. I work on my own bow and tune accordingly. It's not hard to do and I'm not doing it all the time.
I have a VXR and I love it. But elite is catching my attention lately. I was really looking at the NEXXUS2 a while back. But stuck with the VXR. I’m a little disappointed I don’t have a elite dealer within a hundred miles. My current Mathews dealer wants to also stick elites. He told me they actually did at one time, but they would wait 5-6 months for parts. And they dropped the product cuz it was pissing off the customers.
Bought an Elite Enkore last year and probably got a lemon, but never been able to tune the bow… hard left tear. Dealer changed limb deflection, shimmed the cam with advice of Elite Tech, came back better but still had a left tear. Dealer told me it was the best they can do, and them nor the company offered me a replacement… ended up selling it for nothing to someone who didn’t care about tear and bought a Mathews V3… no more Elite for me😅
maybe it was the raiser the most expensive part of the whole bow .
the raiser might of had stress in it from the machining and should of been red tag
Too many people are overly concerned with bullet holes, the bow manufacturers know this and thats why they come up with gimmick features like their SET. Bullet holes do not make nor does it break an archer. Any decent target archer will tell you that bullet holes will not translate to higher scores nor will left or right tears result in poor scoring. It's all about good form and reps. Not some fancy marketing gimmick.
@@capricornmagic63 maybe true for target archery, but as a bow hunter I want my arrow to fly as straight as possible to ensure the best penetration. If my arrow is kicking on one way or another, It’s loosing a massive amount of kinetic energy and momentum…
I swich from hoyt to elite victory know i swich to trx 38 g2 last year.. I shoot elite victory for 4 year and win mani gold medals with that bow its great bow reason i dont swich too newr elite dont like feel new elite bow like echelon and soo on.. So i keep victory for long time.. Last year i swich to trx 38 that 1st mathews bow i ever shoot and i break my own best score only 3weeks ussing trx g3 iam not fan boy.. Off any bow company just the fact mathews hold rely stady on target i use less weight on my stab its hold like a dream.. Its true hurts form buying mod fornchange the draw lenght that verdict its great for have such addjusment..
Why not just twist string to take some draw length out? Feel like these people don't know what's going on ;)
I’m thinking you have forgotten your review of the Ritual 33. And how well you shot it. Next to the old Elite Synergy the Ritual IS the smoothest easiest bow I have ever shot. Yea, I know about the longer ATA better target bow hype but you need to look back at that review- if you ever read these comments?
We switched from matherws to hoyt becouse mathews is quite rubish. Cracking Arms, Stupid system for top hats and rubish bearings. Bought 2 new bows, the bearings blowed up after a week. And after 2 months of active shooting top right arm cracked on TRX 38g2 and on TRX38 too.
Shimming cams in a Mathews is NOT hard. I like how easy it is to remove the axle without e clips and shims falling and dropping into nowhere.
Elite makes a great bow but some of those complaints are lame.
Ok do it without a Bow press and then tell me how hard it is, and while your at it I want you to change the draw length a 1/4 inch without removing the cams, Over complicated over priced all genuine reasons not to own one or trade it in on something else .
@@travistwwreck1535 Well, yeah, you need a bow press. Most bows do. A quarter inch can be achieved twisting or taking twists out of a string. Doing the same to cables. Changing the grip. Maybe you should buy a traditional bow.
@@drested1793 I wont own a Mathews . When I can do all the above without needing a Bow press or touching the strings with the Elite , Maybe you should spot buying shit because of a brand name . Mathews are crap
Like who?
Guarantee you nobody complained about draw length adjustment. Anyone worth anything knows you can fine tune draw length.
I don’t think that is happening. Mathew’s is out selling the competition by a 4 to 1 margin. For example Texas Archery in Spring TX and STX Archery in Inez TX Mathew’s bows fly off the racks while Hoyt, Bow Tech and Martin hang there and gather dust. Not saying these brands are bad they just aren’t selling at the same rate as Mathews.
But that's marketing. They do it better than most. No doubt some of their bows are great, but there is a stack of bows just as good too, at cheaper prices.
@@maiabrittany lol All Mathews are great. Best on the market.
Two shops in Texas does not represent the whole of archery bow sales. Bow brand are very regional and can and often change due to different factors. Hoyt, PSE, Bowtech, Elite, Matthews are all very big successful companies that sell a lot of bows. One doesn't need to self-justify their purchase with local statistics to make themselves feel like the made the right choice. Just buy the bow, not the brand, and enjoy it.
@@halfstep67 Who is trying to self-justify themselves? I'm not from Texas. I didn't see where Mathews shooters was slamming, other companies, and their bows. Mathews shooters are just stating the facts. Mathews lead the industry in technology. Mathews cams/mods are the best. Mathew bows are the most efficient bows on the market period. Specific mods are the best. Fact
@@Life-of-Bluegrass_Music Matthews makes great bows but they are using technology that was invented and used by other bow manufacturers first. Bowtech is the first to develop and use a binary cam and was the first to start using parallel limbs and longer center pivot limb pockets. High Country Archery was the first to use a roller guard and the first to machine a sight dovetail in their riser. Hoyt was the innovator of the modern split limb. PSE was the first to use the ultra-short limbs and preloaded limb design.
Matthews use to heavily advertise that "two cam bows are history" and that "split limbs are inferior". Now Matthews are using two cams and split limbs.
We're switching???
- Mathews shooter
Those complaints are lame, just saying no one who actually works with bows a decent bit, feels that a Mathews is hard to tune, and to shim? It’s easier than having E-clips and all that with the washers. That sounds kinda like guys that don’t know what they’re talking about, especially if they’re telling you they don’t know if their draw length is 28”, 28.5”..? IYKYK… IJS!
I ended up going with Prime this year for my bow, when I held the elites they just had terrible grips for me.
Mathews out performs every other bow with speed, vibration, noise, they are accurate and dead inthe hand as hell. I've never had probs tuning or having to buy modules. I won't be shooting a slow vibrating elite any time soon!
OWE BS
@@travistwwreck1535 The results speak for themselves
@@saransmith8773 What results. You mean the flood of Archers trading in complicated Mathews Bows , Mathews dont give better results The Archers Do , same Archers that won wth other Bows and will win with Elite's . What your talking Is Fanboy Bullshit
@@travistwwreck1535 Have a look at all of the archers reviews on you tube. Non biased on speed, vibration, draw cycle. All round it will shoot a heavier arrow faster at any draw length especially the shorter draws. Don't try and be clever ok I did my homework on all the bows when I got my v3 and it was the best!!!The only bow that beat the v3x this year was the new Carbon pse but it's 3000 in Australia. Also learn how to spell
@@travistwwreck1535 I never said any particular brand would make anybody shoot better. Stop trolling and and go practice tool
stop comparing this to old elite... its not even close let's all admit it ! :P Mathews, if your reading this.... Bring back the c4! :P
ARE YOUR EYES BROWN MATE ?
Because there not !
Hoyt shooters are going to elite also..
I see all the MATHEWS fans coming to the defensive. Mathews made thing over complicated, got greedy with selling Cams rather than supplying a set in the box. They are losing Archers, fast . Try selling a second hand Mathews that the Cams are not in stock anywhere. I just put a deposit on a Verdict .
Lol Mathews cams are easy to get. There cheap in price. Best design on the market.
@@Life-of-Bluegrass_Music $90 each is not cheap. and if there so fking cheap why not include a whole set in the box with the new bow. Over complicated is not Better ,its a Marketing tool , having to remove cams to get the cables off is stupid and over complicated, having to spend money to get your draw length tuned is stupid and over complicated, and they dont shoot any better than any other Bow. The grip suits Nobody everyone buys an arftermarket grip all the Pros use different grips. Mathews is the rebok Pumps of the Bow world. In the near future Mathews will either change to a user friendly system like everyone else or make even more complicated and end up out of Business .Your clearly a Blind Mathews Fanboy and lets guess never shot anything else because your a 100% Mathews person ,soon you will be saying " Lets make Mathews Great again"
Complicated, how so? You don't know what you're talking about. Mathews aren't loosing archers. Every bow company follows Mathews lead. Fact, Catch US If You Can.
@@Life-of-Bluegrass_Music Blind ,stupid Fanboy. No one is following Mathews crap anymore.
Lol its not that hard to change strings or tune a mathews.
20mins.
Drawlength can be micro adjusted by twisting the cables.
It's a shame that Elite doesn't make bows in adult sizes.
You shoot a 41" ATA compound, huh!?
What the hell are you on about?
@@maiabrittany The Elite Verdict only goes out to 31". What kind of T-Rex arms do you need to shoot something like that comfortably.
@@HamishGarland possibly because the majority of target archers are 29-30 inches.
And being ape armed is a minority?
elite is a good bow...but doesnt compare to matthews or hoyt
Wow I wish I could afford a new over priced high tech bow that weighs as much as a small car. Oh hang on I'm a knob and shot a recurve and get plenty of pigs, goats etc.
Maybe it's not the bow, maybe it's the man behind the bow but maybe I'm wrong again and yes I will get all wrapped up in the American way and fall for their over the top advertising that can even sell shit in a bag. Good bless the ASU. 😱
this is how they bait you into switching... 5 guys interested... lol. mathews all day
Do some research Mathews has lead in the competition stage for years hard to change the string negative top hats are easy changed tunes easy quite dead in the hand ….catch us if you can
Really. You sound like a fanboy. I shot some of their top models. Good no question, but chose Athens and Elite bows. As good and cheaper too.
That’s what makes the world go around Mathews ain’t for everyone but neither is Elite just saying
Their not
shot i went to bowtech . elite is slow as fuck
Um ..ok
This cat is pissed at Mathews .. he takes every opportunity to dis Mathews .. look at the podiums, Mathews dominates .. his country can’t even produce a bow .. I’m sure he’d massage Pete Shepleys
arrow shaft .. 😂
No, they’re not. 7 people?? Lmao
Lol I’d bet you made up most of that
Matthews is a master at marketing and making money off of people's ego and insecure nature. There has never been anything particularly special about their bows. I fell for the hype one time several years ago. That was the worst bow I ever owned.
The pro shops in my area carry them because they pretty much have to due to public perception.
Mathews is one of the best bow brand I've shot and I also like Prime bows. I've shot elites and I'm not a fan dont like the draw cycle and everything with it and just not satisfied with them. Mathews are usually always true to their advertising from speed to vibration damping etc. I've in minnesota and almost all bow shops here sell mathews and I barely see anyone liking elites up here and shooting them.
Which bow did you buy and what didn't you like about it?
Buying this bow won't perform miracles for your game. There's absolutely nothing special about this bow, it doesn't do anything different or better than most other bows in the price range. There is no significant difference in how smooth the bow draws and the grip isn't as holy grail as he makes out. It's a nice grip for sure, it's not bulky and doesn't feel uncomfortable in the hand but it's not ground breaking. My advice would be don't be swayed by these opinions. Try the bow for yourself and see how you feel, don't allow this review to determine whether you buy the bow or not. Don't shell out cash based solely on this over hyped SET and achieving bullet holes. Bullet holes mean nothing, they don't add to your skill or success as an archer. There's nothing really misleading about this review but the little features that are highlighted doesn't justify the cost. Success in Archery comes from skill and loads of reps.
Lets Guess your a Mathews owner. This Cost you mention is Lower than most high end Bows like the Hoyt and Mathews or the PSE top line , In fact your getting more for your money from the Elite. And its a great Bow that suit a lot of Archers . Bullet holes are a very important step in tuning and mean way more than you understand.
@@travistwwreck1535 I own an Elite Rezult which is why I don't think it's anything special. As i said, it's ok but it's a bow at the end of the day. I'm a decent Archer and i got to my level by reps. Loads of them.
@@travistwwreck1535 Oh and as for the bullet holes? indoors from 18 meters, I hit 10's almost with my eyes closed, outdoors from 80 meters, I'm consistently in the 9 and 10 rings.
@@capricornmagic63 Im And A grade and shoot the same as you with a Mid range Bow . What your missing is a tuning technic , Paper Tuning is a vital tuning tool. We can all say we are the best Archers on a forum , but what you have said opens you your so called skills to question. Like the fact its 80 yards not meters, and we dont shoot 9 and ten rings at 80 yards has made me realise your FULL OF BULLSHIT
@@capricornmagic63 Boom.
Shimming is not hard on a Mathews. Must be guys with access to no press. Unbelievable.
Mathews is better then that PSE crap shit you shoot. Lol Mathews is the leaders in technology. Their cams and mods are the most efficient on the market. Mods are 59.95 a set, for 80%-85% 60 lb, 65 lb, 70 lb, 75 lb. Individual draw mods at a peek draw weight is more efficient. That is a fact and the plain truth of the matter. Every Hoyt shooter will tell you. How many views Hoyt fans say, you used the slow mod? Hoyt uses rotating mods, 2-3 mods for one bow. That is why their bows speeds are varying. My point is it cut the draw curve. Which makes the limbs less efficient. Mathews is the most efficient bows on the market. The chronos are showing it. Mathews pro shooters tear up the competition lines. Their is a lot of great companies out there, but Mathews is the bow company. That is the leader in efficiency. Efficiency is accuracy, speed, dead in the hand, and silent. Which equals Motivation hard to beat #1 CATCH US IF YOU CAN
I went from a matthews to an elite envision best choice I've ever made its everything my matthews was and then some