Should You Become a Plumber / Gas Engineer / Apprenticeship v Fast Track Plumbing
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- Опубликовано: 19 май 2020
- Plumber training. Should I become a plumber? Should I retrain as a plumber? These are questions I keep getting asked over and over again. So, I thought I'd put a video together for you and try and answer as many of them questions as I can.
My name is Allen Hart and I've been a plumber now for 30 years and yes, a long time. And over the years, I've had lots of people work with me. In the days when I used to work for British Gas, I used to get a lot of the new trainees and they used to come and work with me for a little while before they used to go out by their self. And also since having my own business, I also let a lot of other people contact me. I get loads and loads of people. I mean, I've had six people this week contact me, asking me if they can come and work with me. So, I get lots of people that want to come and work with me. And I want to just try and answer some of the questions before you spend a big bag of money going on these training courses and things like that.
So, just to try and see if this job is right for you and what you're going to do after, if you do qualify, what you're going to do. Are you going to get a job? Are you going to go self-employed? If you go self-employed, how much are you going to charge, the cost involved in getting vans and insurances and all things like that. So, I just wanted to go through as much of that information in this video as possible. Just to try and give you a bit of knowledge before you take a plunge. Well, that cheesy or what? I'm going to put some notes, I'm going to write some notes down here. Let's have a look.
Try before you buy. So what I'd advise first of all, before you do anything else, is go try out being a plumber. So, see if there's anybody local that you can go and do some labouring, some free labouring and see if that type of work suits you and if you like to get your hands mucky, and if you like to do lifting floor boards up and things like that. So, as I say, try before you buy. Before you invest all your time and invest all your money in training. The last thing you'd want to do is if you... Even as an apprentice, you wouldn't want to go and spend two years, three years, I don't know how long the apprenticeship is these days, but you wouldn't want to spend all that time and then after you've done all that, realise that it's not actually the job for you.
And same if you're retraining. Maybe you're in the army or something like that now and you want to do plumbing. Try and, if you can, go and work with somebody, even if you've got to go work for free. Go and offer to work with some of the labour for free for a few weeks and just make sure that it's the right job for you.
So, now you've decided, after you've done your research, that you want to be plumber and there's different options for you to train to be a plumber. So, you could do an apprenticeship. And we'll talk a little bit about that first. And then we'll talk about your older style, retrainee type route. We'll talk about that as well. So normally, as an apprentice, you do an apprenticeship when you're 16, 17 sort of age. I'm not sure if there's an age limit on it these days, there might not be with all these age discrimination acts and things like that. So, there might not be, I'm not sure. You'd have to speak to your local college or speak to a local employer and see if you could do an apprenticeship. The benefits of doing an apprenticeship and working for somebody at the same time, obviously you're going to get paid as you go.
You're also going to get knowledge from the training in college, but also on the job as well. You're going to get a recognised qualification. So, you're going to get an apprenticeship. You'll receive or you could receive government funding as well. Apprenticeships. So, that's a little bit about apprenticeships and that's the route that I took when I came into the industry. My first job I worked as a plumber and I sent out, in those days, I sent out letters to lots and lots of companies, and eventually I got a job. And then I went to college and I did my apprenticeship. And that's how I got into the trade. Now, the other option is if you want to retrain, if you want to be what some people call a fast tracker and there's different options with that as well. With a fast tracking route, I wanted to ask you, look into what you're going to do. So, if you're going to do the fast tracking route, once you're qualified, what's your plans? Are you wanting to get a job? Are you wanting to go self-employed? So, I want to look more into that as well with the fast track route, but we'll have a look at fast track now. Viva Training Academy 
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Nice beautiful
Hi Allen , I am a tile, I am self employee , I have 20 years experience but as you know when we get bathroom job we need Plummer , some time very hard to fined Plumber I want to learn pluming job , maybe not to much just change sink ,toilet and bath . what should I do ? Than you.
Great vid allen ....best plumbing and heating site on you tube without a doubt ....35 years in the trade ...still learning everyday ....youngsters I've worked with always late for work and always on their bloody phones ...and they know it all .....have also worked with lads who are spot on and willing to listen and learn
carrie sparks Thank you very much ❤️
You're very good guy God bless you and your family 👊👊
Thank you so much.
Your videos are brilliant. Keep them coming. I particularly liked your video explaining all the different heating systems. You have a really good way of explaining things.
I am currently doing a fast track plumbing course so I can do my own plumbing. I am a joiner to trade and I have really enjoyed the soldering and pipe bending so far. Looking forward to doing the more advanced stuff like heating systems etc.
Did you pass your course? Who did you do it with?
Absolute Legend. Well respected in the plumbing world. Well done Alan
Many thanks for your video Allen!
Brilliant. you give so much back to the industry and you must spend countless hours doing these videos and the prep. I used to be a teacher and not only are you teaching, doing prep in your workshop but editing videos, giving your time to apprentices, doing your job... Don't know how you do it but its brilliant!
Thank You.
Another great video Alan, I’m watching your videos to help me through my fast track gas course starting end of July
Best of luck!
Warren did you end up going through the course?
@@Brad-zt6iq yes i did. i passed my ACS last week.
@@warrenfegan8872 nice
@@warrenfegan8872 well done. How did you do after with finding a job ?
Great video Alan well done.
Thank you so much for the feedback. 👍
When I started my fast track course over a 1 year period I got job smart metering then worked my way into service and breakdowns.
today im diving into boiler installs with bit training . ive just passed my reassessment acs .
It would not been possible without amazing you tube teachers like Allen Hart, pb plumbers tom plum john wilson. to name a few. the video advice got me where i am today a special thank you.
And for the newbies starting out re watch as much lessons as i did. respect.
Thank You
Looks like it the fast track course worked out for you!
Hi David, what training agency did you complete your course with? Thanks
@@rowlandobiora7105 brookhouse traing centre
You are good
Thank you 🙏 so much for your video it helped me.
Hi Shabbir raja, Good Luck and thank you.
Great video man thank you
Glad you enjoyed it
Startin a adult apprenticeship next year. Been watching your videos just soaking as much as possible in. Thanks mate 👍🏼
🔥
What company are you starting with?
Good luck.
Congrats! Just wondering how you managed to get an adult apprenticeship, were you looking on Gov website or local job sites? Thanks
@@nunny671 i worked for a company as a skilled labourer for a year and a half then asked if they could put me through it mate. Get your feet in the door to somewhere and ask the question good luck mate 👍🏼
Ya brill. Good advise. Thank you ❤
No problem 👍
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@@AllenHart999 your welcome Allen. Stay true. I've subscribed 👍
You doing very well job passing knowledge is help people to learn and making decisions keep it up
Thank You.
Thank you for your advice
You're welcome
Great video mate!
Thank You.
40 years in the Trade for me Alan, another 5 and that's me done.
Certainly has changed, not always for the better.
Some people come into the trade and think it's a licence to print money, you see them come and go, you never finish learning, wish I could start all over again but with the knowledge I have now ha ha.
Another good video👍
Mark Cliff Hi Mark, Thank you so much, I would retire tomorrow if I could afford it😂😂😂
Same here pal,but with three daughters not much chance in the near future 😭😭😉😉
thank you sir, helped a lot
Thank you.
Thank you for your advice.
Greeting from ALBANIA 🇦🇱
Wonderful! Thank you 😊
Thank You.
great video, thanks 👍
Hi Allen, I did a fast track course 8 years ago, it cost thousands. These course provider's don't tell there students that unless they have minimum of 2 _ 5 years experience, your not going get a job. I contacted many local plumbing companies offer my services for free, but most aren't interested in helping you get experience. You have gain experience yourself buying doing jobs, for family and friends 1st. Anyway Allen, a followed up would be great, I think there must many plumber's out there, in that situation and need help to move forward, but don't where too turn. Looking forward to seeing the next video.👊⭐
Can you tell me please what fast track course did you do?
Are they still running?
It's a little bit different at the moment as BG are actually taking on newly qualified gas engineers. Thanks.
Informative video 👍 im 43 an fed up of driving artics, in traffic most the time so its not really driving at all 😩. I moved house and helped decommission an old system an run a full new central heating system back in. Enjoyed doing it i then took the city an guilds level 2 6035 diploma course and completed that. I have done a few basic jobs since, there is so much to learn, which i want to do, no one will take me. I have even offered free labour several times so i can complete my NVQ 2. I have come this far i cant give up, im not sure what to try next but hopefully will figure it out. I have liked an subscribed, will be watching your other videos and the ones you recommended. Thanks 👍
Good luck.
@@AllenHart999 since this comment i done some voluntary, got a bit of regular work, now have completed all tasks on the 6189, assessment completed, just have to finish off the portfolio, un a much better place now and gained more knowledge 👍
@@hunkydoryangling8200love this -
Great video ,only thing I would add is you need to be confident in your abilities and focused and prepared to spend a little extra time making sure that when you leave a customer house they will remain dry and above all safe , This is a rewarding occupation aim for high standards, cheers Alan
Hi Frank. Thank you very much for all your continued support.
This is a really helpful perspective. I'm 31 and on the verge of switching careers - the thought of staring at a screen for the rest of my life is starting to look like a bloody terrible idea, but don't know where to start. Glad I found your channel!
Hi Duodecimal Bear. Good luck and if you need anything just ask. Thanks.
You're not the only one. I'm nearly 40 and have been in a corporate office world for 14 years - I'm fed up of pushing pixels for overdemanding managers and clicking send on emails. At the same time my industry in changing and I fear for the next 5-10 years in terms of my skills becoming obsolete.
I want to do something more real that will actually help people rather than make someone else money.
@@SpaceshipRocketFuel I'm here for the same reasons. Looking at entering into Gas Engineer career. Here to find out more as well. Nice to meet you guys and Allen as well!
@coachgordonso how did you get on are you still training?
Amazing video good insight and things to think about. I’ll be leaving the forces next year. I definitely want to be a plumber but I’m still trying to decide how to become one. Around my family and what courses to do, while still trying to keep a roof on our heads.
Any ex forces out there had the same problems I am going to face ?
Hi Thomas, Please let us know how you get on. Thanks.
Cracking video 👍
Thank you.
Keep up the good work
Thanks, will do!
56 years old and retraining as a plumber, thanks for the help 👍
👍👍👍
kindly please advise your way to be a plumber, thx
Looking to do the same fella
I did a four week intensive C & G plumbing course 15 years ago, it was ok but it just gives you the basics.
4 weeks? Really. Never heard of a 4-week course before. Thanks.
Decent honest guy 👏👏👏
Thank You.
Another good video Allen . I would like advice on a job I was asked to do only yesterday. Customer has sold the house and the estate agent has asked for the boiler to be serviced before the hand over. It is a Baxi duo-etc 28 he. Installed 2008. Worked fine all those years.One of Baxi’s best in my opinion.20 Mbar.gas at the meter 16 Mbar at the appliance. Flue runs down from boiler instead of back. Condensate drain is like an overflow pipe that just runs at high level in to the back yard. P/ relief terminal was flattened at the end ( they must have thought that was the best way to stop it dripping😳) no fuse spur near the boiler. Wired direct in to up stairs ring main. Incorrect cables in to boiler. Not multi core heat resistant flex.I started servicing the boiler before I noticed all the installation defects. I have now caused all sorts of problems by writing on a report all the above issues. I am writing to ask what you would do in this situation. ( new boiler installed correctly ) my advice but it’s not what they want to hear. Estate agents are now asking for all boilers to be serviced before the sale transfer are they trying to pull a fast one.
Hi Shaun. Sorry i missed this. If you still need advice give me a call. Thanks.
So I was lucky enough to have trained with the local gas board to city and guilds 2 years and an intermediate qualification got you your bag of tools,we used to walk and catch the bus!.More apprentices than fitters in the depot .The nationalised industries were great for training people , moved on to contracting with the privatised gas board and then working for a housing management company untill I called it a day .You are spot on when you said you never stop learning ,I never did ! However it is true that a high percentage of gas fitters are coming close to retirment .so I am quite surprised so few jobs going .
john Boy I know loads of experienced guys with little to no work, It’s not easy to run a business these days. Thanks 🙏
Just found your page...just started my level 2 diploma in plumbing at 36 looking forward to your videos
same here, im doing the diploma starting next week!
@@benpiper814 few idiots in my class but that was me 20 years ago lol
@@paulbutcherlucasskegness5099 what are the requirements to start doing a diploma in plumbing,do you need any prior qualifications.
None im thick as pigshit not finished my course yet and i have been taken on full time by a plumber obviously minus my one college day
@@paulbutcherlucasskegness5099 Where are you doing your course cause i'm thinking of dropping my mechanic course, the guy i'm working with says i should do plumbing or gas engineering but i'm worried i'll need GCSE's and some courses cost like 5k
Top bloke and top video 🏴
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Brilliant advice! I thought that I would enjoy being a network engineer after years in the offices. I hated and loathed it in reality! I had always done DIY such as kitchen fits and general house repairs so figured I would be OK. The day to day life of ladders and cold UK weather meant it was miserable. So yes try before you commit always.
Thanks.
So I’m 29 I originally trained as a manager to a Costa coffee, then when covid hit I was made redundant. My career took a turn and in became a courier, it was only suppose to be until the pandemic passed. 3 and a half years late I’ve taken a sabbatical from work. My friend is a plumber and I did some work with him on Saturday just gone on a new build site. Now I’m just trying to find some sort of starting point, I feel a bit silly looking at the apprenticeship route being 29 but I also feel it will be the most beneficial
Maybe a gas course would suit you?
Did a three year apprenticeship in 90,we was the first group to go through NVQ as C&G was out dated for level 3 Gas Engineering.
The Gas Engineers used to laugh at us saying we would know F all at the end of three years.....😂. Yep they was right.
Darth Fader I was one of the last to do C&G 😂 longtime ago now. 😂
I served my time the only way the old fashioned way.And still learning ! Now 43 years old, self employed and have gained lots of useful knowledge from RUclips🤓 patitculy this channel thanks AH👨🔧
Hi Chris. Do you have the bad knees and back yet? 😂😂😂 Thank you so much for watching.
@@AllenHart999 1 bad knee😫 backs holding up 😂 I try to avoid second fixing sinks👨🔧
Hi Alan.
I did the fast track multi skilled gas engineers course when I retrained to become a corgi registered gas engineer which I was for all of 7 months before gas safe took over. I had to go straight from training to becoming self employed and I felt that the training was just no where near enough. I've been in business now going on 13 years, there has been a lot of ups and downs and you learn everyday on the job and I try to strive to be better and to give my customers the best work I can.
Great vid 👌 keep um coming.
Phill. From Broad Plumbing.
Thank You.
Hi Allen, I took the plunge and did both routes into the industry, the latter was with BG. In my experience : avoid the fast track, I'd happily talk to you about each.
And I'd also love to do some work along side you to learn.
Maybe we could do a video together and share your story? Thanks.
I'd be happy to discuss it and see if it's something you may find worthwhile for you're channel
Owen Attewell Where are you in the country? Thanks
Currently retraining to become a Gas engineer and loving it
Good luck
Hi Allen I am looking to start a level 2 city and guilds at college would this be a good course for me to get into the industry or should I keep looking for a hard to come by apprenticeship?
Thanks for your expert advice.
Hi Allen thank you for you content I’ve got a question if you don’t mind. I’ve completed my level 2 and I’m unsure wether to proceed to level 3 or my level 2 nvq instead? If I do my nvq do I need to quit my job (not plumbing related) and find one as an apprentice or could I do both simultaneously? So many people tell me level 3 is unnecessary unless you want to proceed into management. Please if you or anyone else could advise me on this. Thank you!
great video buddy
nick irlam Need to get you on here, Your work is amongst the best in the UK, ❤️❤️❤️
Allen Hart thank you very much buddy, I’ve only just realised I can comment on my phone 🤣. I’ve some interesting jobs on at the moment buddy hopefully you will be able to come over and take a look. I’m filming a lot myself so I’m sure we could through something together.
@@nickirlam4811 Let me know when you are free.
Allen Hart hi mate I’ll get them a little further on buddy then any time you want
I gained my level 2 plumbing NVQ in 1999 but then lost my apprenticeship. Which meant I couldn't continue and gain the level 3 NVQ/ Gas qualifications. So I stepped away from the trade altogether until 2016 when I was in a position to get back into the trade and I am now a fully qualified level 3 NVQ/ Gas engineer. Since December 2019 at the age of 37.
good luck.
How did you get back into the trade did you have to pay for a 6-8 month course ?
Hi Allen, Great video! I went to college and got a city&guilds qualification in plumbing that has now expired as our college teacher told us we had a 1/10 chance to be recruited and honestly I feel he was right.
I am really interested in starting again now times have changed. But I have found lot of titles given to the roles such as apprentice, trainee, junior or plumbers mate.
Do you have any more videos or advice about where I could start or about these different job titles?
That’s weird cuz my college still does city and guilds for plumbing
How did you get on? Thanks.
The best Plumbing/Heating/Electric Professional I know ( he’s got every qualification and does the whole job including joinery and plastering if needed ) stopped taking on apprentices when he realised they just weren’t focused on what he was telling them . As soon as they thought he wasn’t looking they were straight on their phones doing social media and dating apps. If I was taking on an apprentice they would have to leave mobile phones at home.
I’ve suggested he creates a firm where he employs people and has say 10 jobs on the go at once. His role would be to go out initially and diagnose correctly which is the greatest skill and quote a price then go round from one job to the next spending 10 mins at each one to make sure his guys are doing it properly. He would be a rich man but he’s old school and wants to do it all himself . That’s all well and good but he’s still working with health problems instead of living in a villa on the Costa Del sol.
Jack of all trades?
Tell me his name. I'll work for him. I'll leave me phone where ever her wants. ;-)
You're right. There's no age limit, most of converting jobs are like in 40 average, and in trades college You get practice as well
Thanks.
Hi Allen great vid! Do you still think it’s worth doing the gas course I’m currently working in plumbing but looking for a change
I'v got my ACS Gas qualifications (fast track course) just waiting to do the gas safe (very first) assessment, assuming I pass, it's very unlikely I will get an apprenticeship anywhere (it was hard enough getting help from anyone just to do my portfolio, begging so many people), I've got 99% of the tools needed for plumber/gas engineer (couldn't afford a van I have a car, ) I feel like after passing the gas safe assessment I will have no choice but to go it alone (I'm ok at soldering), I don't know F-all about boiler faults/repairs yet, hopefully I should get the hand of this if I watch enough youtube videos plus I've heard there's a few boiler fault finding courses probably will do one of those, there's also a guy on youtube (for a fee) he takes you out with him and show you the most common faults/repairs on boilers, (I've also got a bit of confidence problem as well), any advice on should I go it alone or hold out and try to find some plumber who will take me on (this may take years, it may never happen, 1 year's already been wasted due to pandemic),
MY APOLOGY IN ADVANCE YOU PROBERY GET QUESTIONS LIKE IN ALL DAY LONG.
Hi the unknown. Not really sure where to start in answering all this but feel free to give me a call. Thanks. Good Luck.
How did it end up going?
Total agree with you. Experience is time, I did 23yr army and then did the ACS gas course. Struggle putting all the difference aspects of the ACS case into the bigger picture but work with a experience gas guy brought it together. I learnt more with that guy on the tools than any training cse I have done. You can’t become a pornstar without practising 😂 all I can say to any young guys confidence is everything 👍🏻
Hi Russell, How you getting on with the trade now?
@@AllenHart999 all’s good with a lot of practices, I’m not doing any installs or big jobs just servicing, breakdowns and landlords for a big southern housing company. But a big thanks to your self, PB and tomcat for the quality vids that help 👍🏻
@@russellbird2246 If you want any videos just let me know, I will try and cover whatever you need. Thanks.
Im 26, currently a time served welder, hate it, hate being stuck in a factory or a yard all day, I like freedom, out and about working in domestic properties with everyday being a new & different day. I'm currently in the process of starting a plumbing & heating apprenticeship I'll be 31 by the time im qualified again, but I think its worth it for me. I can't wait.
Where are you training at? Good luck.
Fantastic video mate so much detail and useful information. At 31 aftet 9 years of working for the NHS i am thinking about retraining to become a tiler boiler engineer or plumber.
Hi Chris. Good luck
@@AllenHart999 thanks mate
@@chris881989 I’m with nhs right now did you end up doing the course ?
@Harmz Woke no I have just got another job within the NHS.
@@chris881989 ah ok how come u didn’t do it mate
I am doing my gas portfolio and the trust was lost with my engineer, He still has to sign off jobs. But his questions about if im seeing anyone or sitting outside my house asking if i will invite him round., Just put me in a situation that Ii cant work with him. I still have 3 boiler installs and I cant bring myself to work with him. I felt embarassed and its hard to complete my potfolio with covid. It knocked me back. All I want is to learn from an Engineer that doesnt just see an opportunity to put inappropriate questions to me about my life. Ive work in other trades so im not niave. But women are put through this and we have to except it. I just thought I would share this with you.
As it made me feel like entrapment. At some point I have to speak with him to sign off my work. It is stressing, to the point can sleep as Monday draws closer.
Hi Kudos, This is very sad to read, Hope you managed to sort it all out. Good Luck.
I start a Bpec gas foundation course in September which lasts 34 weeks through the college and the course also puts you out with a gas engineer 2 days a week. Then I will start my own business.
Good luck with it Daniel.
@@AllenHart999 thanks Allen, would you be able to help me with a price list as there seems to be a wide range lol?
Morning Alan great video, I did a fast track training for level two C/G with able skills everything you said was right I’m at a cross road now because I’ve just been doing plumbing work (bathroom/kitchens) I’m now thinking do I do the gas training?? But I know I will have to work with someone to get experience ?? Which isn’t easy because a lot of guys don’t want to train you ?? Many thanks Alan love your channel Ahmet AJ
Hi Ahmet, hope you are well. Are able skills any good? I am on a cross road following the pandemic and in a situation whereby I need to find a new career path and it would be great to understand how your training went? Did it live up to your expectations? Confidence only grows with experience but did you feel competent after the training? - Sorry to the questions just have to be sure. TS
@@tawindersingh284 hi Tawinder, did you end up doing any course with AbleSkills or not? If yes, how did u find? Thanks
Thank You
@@AllenHart999 Guy ask you full questions and all u reply back is a thank u lol what a joke
@@muhammadabbasi9128 I didn’t see a question from Ahmet, Also I get around 500 messages or more every day, I try my best to reply to as many as possible.
Hi Allen great video as usual, I am a 3rd year apprentice gas engineer for a housing company with over 30,000 homes and would love to work with you on a empty property and do a full heating install and show the importance of flushing and protecting the system, only Manchester based so not too far from you, thanks again.
Hi Badger. Your are very welcome to send me some Videos, I will add them on this channel if I can. Thanks.
What housing company is this? I have been looking for a gas engineer apprenticeship for a while
Thanks for the video! Im 35 and have completed apprenticeship, school, and have a license in Indiana over in the states. My family and I are moving to the UK next year in May, and was wondering if you could give me more insights on good companies to work for, as well as what kind of weight my experience will carry across the pond. Should I start looking into these courses you recommended now, or wait till I find an employer? We are using and immigration consultant to assist us in finding work, but I want real opinions on companies from real plumbers. Thanks again!
I am not really sure but good luck.
Good guy 👍
Thank you.
Hi Allen would a good starting point be to do the nvq 2 diploma? I am changing jobs and want to start out training while I still work at my current job. Thanks Darren
You would be best to speak with a training provider. Thanks.
Would you recommend just ringing up loads of plumbers to try and get an apprenticeship I'm doing a plumbing course at college but I don't think I'm learning because it isn't enough time working. Cheers mate appreciate the channel!
I would advise you to watch as many videos as possible. Then when you are in college you will understand it all better. Thanks.
How did you get on? Thanks.
I have an engineering background and have held a ccn1 certificate over fifteen years ago but for reasons didn't continue with domestic gas . I have a lot of building experience but now have decided that I want to get into gas /plumbing and my local college has made this possible through free intermediate qualifications however the years have caught up with me . I am now 48 yrs old , my question is am I too old ?
No, Definitely not too old. Good Luck.
I’m just about to start a gas engineering apprenticeship with a national company. What would you say the benefits and negatives are from working for a large company compared to smaller company and also compared to going the self employed route.
Hi Ryan. Maybe you could let us know how you are getting on. Thanks.
I really wanted to retrain as a gas engineer to repair boilers, was thinking of doing it as self-employed, working evenings and weekends. But don't see how I could get experience once I finish the course.
Gas boilers are being phased out by the government because of greenhouse gas quotas. They will be gone very shortly.
B B this is misinformation, 23 million homes in the UK are powered by gas fired boilers, the ban only applies to new builds in 2025, clean electricity isn’t a viable replacement for gas heating, installation and servicing of gas boilers will still be an industry for decades
@@brendangray www.logic4training.co.uk/blog/heating/gas-engineers-in-demand-now-and-in-the-future/
How did you get on Tim?
Nice vid Al. My 1st year level 2 was cut off due to the lock down. Before the lock down mess i was send c. V's out left right and centre. There are very few jobs out there for now and maybe for some time to come. £2300 for level 2 plus £1200 for NVQ assessments. If companies are not recruiting where is the new trades people going to come from??? Supposedly you can't get a good plumber for love or money. I WANT A JOB 🙏🙏🙏
My phone hasn’t rung very much for the past 6 weeks. Hopefully, things will pick up for everyone. Thanks and good luck.
I work as a planner for a well known fuel supplier. New gas supply installations is at an all time low for us, and we are seeing more customers asking for their gas supplies to be terminated in a bid to save money. Some of my team have already been moved over to the electricity wing.
We all knew the gas revolution was coming, but the fuel price hikes have really made people more aware and has really pushed things along from what I am starting to see. I wouldn't be surprised to see government bring the 2035 deadline forward another 5 years.
Once you train as a gas engineer you can also move into renewable technologies. Thanks.
I really like your videos sir,can i be learning for only Sundays to build up my skills I'm at college, also working
Good luck.
Hi Allen, have you heard of 247 training? They offer a course in UK, that has some mixed reviews.
No i have never heard of them, Where abouts are you? If you are local check out NGCFE ngcfe.co.uk/
Hi there, I did my training while doing work experience on building sites and helping my uncle, cousin and friends who are or were plumbers when I was younger but I didn't get any qualifications. All my training was very hands on, they taught me the basics such as cutting the pipework, bending and soldering, and I have done a few small jobs, mainly replacing sink and bath traps, emergency work including repairs to burst pipes and repairing or replacing toilet and tank ballvalves etc. My biggest test of my experience as a plumber was replacing a full bathroom suite and it took a long time to do because I wanted to make sure everything was done properly and there was no leaks but the only thing that really pissed me off is that the person who lived there kept running to the toilet every five minutes which delayed the job and I couldn't get anything done. There were no problems with the job until I turned the water back on and it started making a loud noise, I checked everything until I got to the main stopcock and lo and behold, there was a big kink in the service pipe, so I had to repair it and it was an absolute bastard to do (sorry for swearing), the repair to that piece of pipe took me hours to do. The main stopcock caused me a hell of a lot of problems, but I persevered and kept at it and it was repaired, thank goodness. I was absolutely knackered afterwards. I wouldn't want to go through the pain of replacing the main stopcock again. I am thinking of starting my own business as Arrow Emergency Plumbing Repairs and I would like some advice on how to do it.
Hi Mark. I have only just seen this, Sorry for the late reply, Feel free to give me a call if it will help you. Thanks.
I’m doing a plumbing apprenticeship through my local council. Most plumbing apprenticeships now are 4 year fully served apprenticeships, specialising in environmental technologies and not gas.
I earn nearly 21k per year because the council is a living wage employer most others on my course earn a lot less.
Hope this helps anyone thinking about doing plumbing 👍🏼
Thank you for taking the time to watch my video.
Thanks for this video. I'm a 37 year old looking to retrain to get away from a desk job. I'm going for evening classes at college to do level 2 City and guilds in plumbing. Then hoping to find a job and continue training.
My question would be as an older guy would I get a job with just a level 2 City and guilds?
Where are you doing evening course for plumbing? I'm haven't found one down south Bournemouth
How did you get on? Thanks.
Good Video
Thank You
I'm a 33 year old and looking to change careers. I live in the west Midlands area and am currently working within the NHS. Due to what I have seen during the last year and with the lack of respect the government is showing to us that work within the NHS, I have had enough and need a change. I want to be in a career that I feel valued for what I give. My biggest problem is I can't just leave work though and go to college due to having a mortgage, so think that an apprenticeship is the best way forward for me.
So a couple of questions. Would you recommend I do an "introduction to plumbing course" before trying to get an apprenticeship? I have no experience within plumbing. Where is the best place to find an apprenticeship? Is a plumber mate secure income and regular hours? How much would a plumber mate likely be payed (I need to see that I would be earning roughly the same as I would within my current job).
Thank you so much Allen for sharing your knowledge about your trade! I have learned more watching these videos that all the research I have currently read up on 🙂.
Hi Gareth. I cannot really offer advice as you need to decide what’s right for you. Maybe you could ring some local training providers? Good Luck
Think you might be a bit old to do a apprenticeship a plumbers mate would be on around 100_ 200 pound a week but have known people to get 45 pound a week 😉
Take agency job on the side you will make more money, or move overseas Canada or the US pays more
I’ve got my Level 2 City and Guilds Diploma in Plumbing but i’m not sure where i should go from there? I’ve been applying for several apprenticeships but not succeeded in one.
Good video
Thanks.
Hi Allen I did a c&g apprenticeship in the early 90s and only done bits of plumbing over the last 20 years as I do maintenance as my job now have u got any tips to get me into full time plumbing again as I think I’ve lost my confidence in doing the job and a lot of knowledge over the years 👍
Watch as many videos as possible and read books, Study and you will be fine. Good Luck.
Best thing I find is to do the Saturday job self employed. Take on a skill builder every two weeks, build up your skills as well are looking at the RUclips. That will give you the confidence.
Great
Thank You
Hey there I’m a 15 year old and I’m starting an engineering apprenticeship after the summer.and i want to do electrical as I do physics and I’m wondering did you do anything to do any electrical stuff if so what did you do and was it similar to being a gas engineer thanks👍
I only do gas at the moment. Good Luck.
I'm in Belfast, UK. Just about to complete my CCN1 and hope to head out self employed and service/repair boilers. Coming from a software developer background, absolutely loving the work, to be honest, at least what I've done so far. What I'm worried about is getting the work, is this as scary as it seems?
Good luck.
@@AllenHart999 thanks, Allen. Your videos are great!
How are you progressing ? I'm looking to do a fast track and take a similar route to you.
I'm a water treatment engineer and wanted to get into Central heating, phoned around and it seems the courses are 6-8k and run full time for 25 or 26k weeks. You would need to be financially secure for that amount of time as you wouldn't be working during the day.
I then phoned around local gas fitter companies and even those smart meter companies and not a single one would take anyone on without experience so I personally would uave to build my experience for probably working for free for god knows how longnand again would need finance's to cover this amount of time.
I also read stories about people who have had a fast track course and got all the qualifications and tried to do it self employed only to go to thier first job and its its been a absolute disaster.
The the only people iv seen that take on new starts are that company "AO" that sell white goods and appliances but they reviews are 99% lugging a cooker up 20 flights of stairs and then 1% installing a gas cooker lol
I even thought about retraining as a carpet fitter, phoned about 20 people, only 1 guy got back to me and asked what I'm doing now and why I would want to be a carpet fitter, told him I wanted a different industry and then he asked me age, told him in 36 and the cunt slammed the phone down LOL.
What about courses that last about 6 months but offer some sort of kick starter program at the end? I’ve seen one that offers 1st year technical support and a couple of paid jobs a month for a fee
Sounds like a good idea, Let me know how you get on. Thanks.
Would you advice the fast track course? Or would you day do it but dont be thinking youll be set?
hi allen I’m 21 with no plumbing experience, I’m looking to work with a plumber for experience for 6 months and then fast track level 2 diploma and nvq, then not sure what to do after
Good evening Allen,I really appreciate your time to explain in detail to know the right steps to take.I want to learn a plumber,I have a passion for the job.can you put me through on this.am awaiting your response.I am EBENEZER
What do people think of the level 2 / 3 plumbing courses where you study at home but do the practicals at their centre after a certain amount of modules completed. Are they any good?
Hi Hassan. online learning is great but you definitely need some hands-on experience. Thanks.
I went straight for my level 2 with plumbing I wound say I would of been better off doing my level 1 because level one gets you the practice you need to get used to your pipe bending
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I know kids who left school with no qualifications whatsoever now tradesmen on good money, and also self esteem and job satisfaction.
Thank You
am doing my domestic gas now and it's hard work trying to find anyone that will train you
Good luck. Who are you training with?
I'm in my second year of gas engineering and its really hard and getting to me. Im not smart and i hate studying and i dont know if i can do it. My Mum and Dad keep telling me i can but theyre only telling me that because theyre my parents, but i genuinely dont think i can do it. Im 26 and time is running out for a job and i dont know what to do. Im in a really scary place in my life right now.
Keep trying, it will be worth it in the end. Good luck.
Looking to take a gas engineering apprenticeship, do u have any idea if I will learn any other plumbing skills like fitting bathrooms, guttering etc
This will really depend on the company you go and work for. Good luck.
Hi Allen, Really good video, I am seriously considering making a change in career to become a gas engineer! However I need to still work and would have to opt for a fast track course, i am willining to gain as many qualifications as possible but worried about gaining a job afterwards looking at the comments below.....I live in Leeds, If I was to gain my qualifications via a fast track course would you be willing to have me tag along to some jobs once or week or so to gain experience until I could get a job, whether thats with you or elsewhere? Much appreciated, Thanks!
Hi Bluff, How are you doing? Thanks.
How did you get on? Thanks.
Hi Allen I'm thinking of changing careers i have watched lots of videos including yours. I have had some diy experience and enjoyed doing what i have, my question is I'm 55 would it still be possible to take this up as a career.
It’s definitely possible. Good luck.
My comments were my realistic experience as to finding a job in the plumbing industry. Be positive and persistent 💪💪💪 the virus shit has made life even harder 🙄🙄🙄🙁🙁🙁 stay safe from corona virus everyone
Do you have any tips on finding work? Thanks.
@@AllenHart999 i don't wish to be a doom and gloom merchant Al but I Instagram with lots of Plumbers and plumbing forums and for now there is nobody looking to employ mates or apprentices. I live in a London Borough and have emailed companies big and small so far no success. I think it will be a stroke of luck to find a job. Stay motivated and be lucky 🙏🙏🙏🙏 i like your enthusiasm Al 👍👍👍
@@paul_my_plumbs_uk Unfortunately there is no incentive whatsoever for the one man band to take on an apprentice. Its all hassle and cost, and yet they are the very people the government should be encouraging to take on a youngster. Its all geared to bigger companies and always has been.
@@timhancock6626 the big boys are not recruiting either 😕😕😕 when this country has a skills shortage of trades people maybe the government will wake up and realise that they have invested fuck all in training future skilled workers by then it will be too late to play catch up
Im very interested in learning a trade. Im a 16 year old girl and im currently studying a level 3 tecc bacc city and guilds animal mangement degree (with health and safety, maths and bio) at college. I've looking into gas engineering apprenticeships at British Gas, obviously i'm too young now, but i was wondering what i could do right now to help myself in the future, for example training courses/classes for younger people. Once i turn 18 and can drive I am going to look into apprenticeships.
Good luck.
On these Baxi 105s whats usually the problem when the hot water is fine when the heatings on but h/w only it'll try to fire up but just keeps clicking and running cold? The hot water sensor and Hw diaphraghm has been changed in the last month. Any ideas would be much appreciated
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This is a detailed look at a Baxi 105 Thanks.
Quick question I am with British Gas keep having air locks they tried to fix it but never get anywhere with it is there anything I can do
Depends on lots of things. Could you tell me more?
Hi Allen, im 29 years old. I passed level 2 plumbing (non nvq) back in 2012 at college. I never found work in the industry until the last year ive decided its something I want to do. Ive managed to arrange working with a plumbing/ gas engineer luckily & get paid at the same time as well as learning. Would you suggest i do a course also or not? Any other advice mate?
You could do a sat gas course
@@AllenHart999 Thanks mate, will look into the gas once I've mastered the water side of plumbing first....would you agree?
I hear lots of bad talk about fast track courses, what dyu reckon? Good idea to get an NVQ via them or not?