As a Kiwi, I have new found respect for England, the style of Rugby that England is playing is fantastic, one that us Kiwis like. Two tests you could have won. Lots to be positive about, great future for England
I think England lost both those games, the ABs were very lucky. A strong England is fantastic for world rugby. NZ have got quite a few issues they need to sort out as South Africa will destroy them.
Me too. They were good to watch. Marcus Smith seems like a breath of fresh air. Was Farrell holding them back in that last era? Their future is looking good.
Yeah, England running the ball from their own 22 is awesome to see after years of watching them trying to play as little Rugby as possible, I've been told their club teams were quite attack focused and it's good to see it creeping into their test rugby.
@@RubyDoobieScooThere are certainly more attack minded English clubs than there were a couple of years ago Harlequins Bristol and Northampton in particular Harlequins attacking approach you could say is down to Marcus Smith but in reality we have to give credit for that to the AB’s very own Nick Evans who having carved out a magnificent playing career with Quins is now doing the same as their attack coach and mentor to Marcus
Borthwick isreally shaping his team after the mess left by Eddie Jones. Top marks. Not so obvious or special, but what we have seen twice from Razors ABs is a massive lift in discipline. Twice in the 3rd quarter being able to absorb pressure without dumb mistakes
Agreed. Passing kicking and running was very impressive and changed the game. The combination of Ratima at halfback and B Barrett really sped up NZ’s play
Without Beauden (as a huge ABs fan from the UK), the ABs would have lost. The AB scrummage was awesome, but they need to win lineout ball and find a real answer to the rush defence.
The experience this new All Blacks team got from these brutality tough games that England gave them is going to pay huge dividends down the line. It’s the perfect start to a new era of All Blacks rugby. The reason the 2010-2015 ABs were so good was because they had experience in extremely tough matches. The post 2015 ABs teams lost a lot of that experience and had too many blow out wins that didn’t really help them experience wise when they got into a tough match leading to loses in the real crunch matches. Anyhow well done England for really turning up and playing well. A team on the rise.
Absolutely agree. Grinding out games like this is what wins World Cup finals. Sweeping end to end tries are great entertainment in between World cups but you need a different type of game to win the WC. And yes well done England for playing good, tough rugby.
@@24hr_rugby_jake it was, Marcus was doing what Beuden came on and did. Tactical kicks and game management. Fin smith is not a bad player but the way Marcus was playing don't mess with him let him run the show. He was running like a quin and tearing things up and not afraid to take a risk.
@@samuelmidzi8240 Marcus’s tactical kicks were mostly very meh. Fin smith can do all that as well, just didn’t really have a huge chance. Conceding penalties cost England. Also Marcus came back on for the last 10 and that didn’t change anything
Tim, your fair minded comments are much appreciated. I appreciate your acknowledgement of disappointment about England’s loss and at the same time how clear your analysis of the game remains. I see in the comments that some South Africans are referring to you as Egg Master. An elevation well deserved in the spirit of your love for the game, the players, the fans and coaching teams. And, your host country.
Was at the game. When England got four up and were in complete control they tried to slow it right down and dictate the pace. Once the All Black bench came on and upped the tempo England couldn't stay with them. But the English needed to score a least one try when they were completely dominant and they couldn't.
I’m so proud to be English after this series. Well done to our boys. The fact that there’s disappointment shows the progress that this team has made. Think back to the 2023 six nations and performances in the World Cup and the Italy and Wales games from this year. The progress since then has been great to see. Huge credit to Steve Borthwick and his team.
Neutral here. England were 1 pt from making the world cup final and they beat Ireland in the 6N. I was expecting England to get at least one win from this series. This NZ side are building with a new management. Missed opportunity for England.
Tim. This England side is on the right track. What an amazing performance by so many of them. They had me rooting for them in the first half, and I hardly ever. This is what's special about the All Blacks team. Victory from the jaws of defeat. Form a Bok Supporter!
You all need to understand what the "aura" actually is. The 100+ years of play the full 80+ and stick to task, play what is in front of you and results will follow. The rest think it is luck. It is a failure to understand.
I was only able to watch the second half but the change in the whole NZ side from almost panic to calm control after Beauden Barrett came on was palpable.
@@G33v3s agreed, also the speed of delivery from Ratima, made it way easier for his outsides. Christie is an OK journeyman at best. Ratima and Roigaurd are the future.
I really enjoy your calm approach even when your team has lost. The biggest lesson we can take from this series about the Razor ABs is that the team believe in their ability to close out tough matches, and damn, England are a tough team. Congratulations on an excellent performance in both tests.
1 hour after the game and you already have 6500 views. Shows we are all absolutely sitting here waiting for your posts Tim - me included. Top job son!!
Great game. Have to take some positives. England had a chance to win both games. The ceiling is high for them. Marcus Smith and Itoje were standouts. New Zealand were rusty but showed their class when it mattered. Beauden Barrett changed the momentum.
NZ fan, england were phenomenal, hats off. I think after both games, you've got to keep Marcus smith on, the team loses 10% when he comes off, itoje man of the match for mind. All Blacks just find a way on Eden Park. Great edge of the seat game. All these tight test matches aren't easy 😂on the fans!
Fair play to ya lad, Its hard to talk about a game when its been your home team defeated, especially when it was by fine margins such as this, you took it to the chin admirably.
What a match. I’m going to have to go on blood pressure medication after that. So pleased that Razor has got 2 wins but England are really good and could have won both matches. Cunning- Smith is a beast and I love watching Marcus Smith but Beauden Barrett was the difference. I’ll have to watch it on TV. England need to get that front row sorted.
Saturdays in South Africa is a Rugby day,you wake up with a breakfast of New Zealand home matches at 9am,followed by Australia home matches at 11am and then the Springboks at 5pm and close it with Argentina home matches at 9...our Saturdays are more entertaining then the rest of the world
ABs will be happy. Two games. Two wins. Not too bad on the injury front. The days of us just turning up and winning are over. Every test against the other big 4 nations (Boks, English, French, Irish) has to be earned. 2-0 got to be happy as an AB fan.
As an Englishman it was a great game AB had the much better scrum & until we can do better in that department we will always be second best. Well done & well deserved win for the All Blacks!
5 Reasons why England lost: 1.) NZ had the better scrum and 2.) experience on the bench. 3.) England kicked silly grubbers in the last quarter. 4.) Marcus smith should’ve stayed on longer. 5.) slippery Mark Telea.
Sorry that the result bleaked you out brother. Can definitely hear it in your voice. That's why I say that I love rugby and I hate rugby because we love it so much and sometimes it breaks our hearts.
Hi Tim, what really never ceases to amaze me is your unwavering impartiality and your sense for the greater picture and the beauty of the game. And I think that’s one of the main reasons why your channel is thriving as brilliantly as it does. As an English fan you must be really devastated and are still able to provide such neutral insights. Chapeau as the French say. Looking forward to your video about the second game of the Boks against Ireland. See you there. Tom 🇩🇪🇿🇦
We really missed Furbank. Steward was a notable step down, I presume due getting dropped and a lack of international game time. On the flip side Beauden was immense! Proud of England. Congratulations NZ!
His prowess under the high ball is nullified by his lack of speed in thought and the turn. The second try was partly down to him not trusting the inside defender
Just came away having said this exact thing to my hubby. His jaw hit the ground that I was effectively eating my words... but when one is wrong, you're wrong.
This game and last week's were actually the only two games so far (as I give him a pass for the first 6 nations) where I think Borthwick let the team down. First game, changed it up at 55 - 60 minutes....and we gave away 6 pens in the last 20 and NZ dominated possession and territory....picks the same 23 (aside from injuries) and the same thing happens. And changing your 10 when he is having his best ever game in an England shirt is mental. When he came back on at 15 England started attacking again. And aside from Slade, Lawrence and I think Finn Smith who kept grubbing, could have recovered the draw.
great game! Beauden Barrett surely was man of the match, well done England, I did think we were going to lose there for a second. Until Beaudy came on hahaha Up the ABS!
Just after halftime I thought you had us, but Ratima and BB were the difference. Itoje was immense but totally gassed by the end. Not sure why England always takes Smith off early, he’s one of your best!
Do you really believe England will get better than NZ You are now 18 months in transition they are two weeks, do you think Ireland France and SA are going to get worse. In order to be a force you must first win England last 6 games lost 4 won 2 one against a 2nd tier nation.
@@DavidSmith-yi8ou they are good but not any better than their world standings . There game was littered with many mistakes they had a real chance to beat NZ and couldn’t.
@@davidwalker2402 Yes I do. They have the Nucleus of a Great team.. Baxter, Martin CS, Earl. The return of Ford, Furbank Stewart! Watch out Twickernham!
@@korocam9137 they have but nothing shows they are better than any teams above them in the world rankings. You did have furbank last week but yes ford is a better player than Marcus smith , he made a really bad stab of a drop kick kept kicking ridiculous grubber kicks tackled badly. But got two super cross field kicks on target.
I thought Itoje was fantastic. Yes he gave away a series of penalties at the end, but for 60 minutes he was the best player on the pitch. Without Itoje it s arguable that NZ would have beaten England by a larger margin. Personally In hindsight I think there is an argument for Bortwick to have taken him off after 65 mins but without Itoje the All Blacks would have won by a larger margin
I am a kiwi and I love the ABs…(“ Up the WAHS”) but England are a Great unit and definitely showed that they will compete against any Team, Hold your Heads high England you guys are building a Champion side ,I love the new fresh players in this team and the mindset u now have that tries and defence win games…In passing we as NZders sometimes become arrogant and full of ourselves in our comments and in our predictive score lines there was no blow out score lines only 2 evenly matched teams only separated by a moment of share brilliance(aka B.B) so let’s celebrate the Hard combative test series between to tough teams and as a AB supporter we need to be much better going Forward…Well done The English Rose see u for the return Match in Twickers.
I actually really like this team they went out of there way to enjoy and make the most of there time here in nz. Not to mention to try and become more likeable which was great. They were one or two moments from really winning both games. Safe travels home see you in london
On the last maul, if a penalty wasn't called ethier way. Beauden Barrett was under the ball over the line, would of been held up. Nz looking scratchy and building but credit to England for game management and territory control.
Agreed. Tim needs to watch the disallowed James Lowe try from last week again too ... all the way back from when South Africa has the ball in the ruck, the ref was calling for Irish hands out the ruck, and then somehow the ball suspiciously came out on the Irish side, leading to that try. Better refereeing would have seen that immediately referred to the TMO instead of awarding the try and then having the TMO get involved to correct the mistake.
@@LittleBigMediaCo Rather that than watching a game where the ref ignores 60%(80% by NZ) of infringements, this refereeing performance really concerns ahead the championship. Pathetic performance. Really looks like NZ are paying refs or someone
Yep the ref watched it 4 times on the big screen and clearly said ‘I want to make sure we get this right’ . He had no problem with anything New Zealand did at the ruck. I never saw any diving at the feet of English players.
England deserved to win one of them at least. A lot of progress made by England. A lot of progress made by yourself Tim. Creeping up towards 100K subs. Well done man
Beauden Barret, saved the All Blacks two weeks in a row by playing a "test match" territory game. Changing the ABs from the backfoot in their own half to playing in England's half.
While England didn't scrum well, they did control the lineouts. Really should have won with the posession and territory advantage. Marcus Smith is a world class 10. Really surprising change as he was showing great control. Once again, as you said NZ in the last 20 have that ability to blow teams away and close this game out in style. Should also mention Ofa Tuangafasi coming on with Fletcher Newell and Asafa Amua to really punch that scrum advantage home. Well played England. Once again NZ just too good at home. See you at Twickenham.
Enjoyed your wrap up Tim, appreciate your observations even though we barrack for different teams. Absolute thriller of a match. ABs won scrums but lost too many lineouts early on. Not much between the sides overall. Great to see Marcus Smith showing his class. Moments of brilliance from Beaudie. The initial call from the ref with the final maul was ball held up over the tryline, which looked to be right. So probably never a try but maybe England deserved a last chance with a 5 metre scrum.
Thank God a lot rode on this game love Razor I believe we will see a new style our style I'm excited england bought as we expected an amazing english style wow and you lost sorry happy sad for you yippee
Beauden is a rolls Royce of a rugby player, and was the difference in the end. ABs will get better, especially that line out, a struggle today. Already looking forward to the return match at Twickers in November.
You should be proud of England But agree England needs a front row to contend at the top level, also I think England are a great touring team and can't wait have them back in NZ I'm proud of our All Blacks who have alot of improvement ahead, but it will take awhile to get used to razors style of coaching but good times ahead, also really enjoying the content on the channel all the best 👍
I'm looking forward to Will Jordan and Cam Roigard coming back into this AB team. The team will only strengthen. Jordan is a rugby freak (meant in the kindest way). When he touches a rugby ball, things in a positive way for whatever team he is in, happens. He is just an elite level & highly skilled rugby player who always just seems to have time & always seems to create space. AB's always start slowly in a season and get much better as their season moves forward. Thanks, England, for a hard-fought series. Be proud! England are playing a good brand of rugby now. It bodes well for the future. This hard fought 2 match series will be good for both sides moving forward.
Amazing series and England very very competitive after recent years. Missed Furbank so much, unfortunately Steward caught out too may times. Add Marler, Genge, Chessum from the bench and a different end to the game as Curry, Cole, and Coles really weakened the team. Young players, particularly Baxter, CCS, and IFW were excellent and future very bright
Kiwi fan here. Firstly England were fantastic for two weeks in a row. Tbh the biggest dissapointment was that it's only a 2 test series. I thought the ABs started hot especially mckenzie and we created 2 or 3 open breaks where it looked like a try was undeniably on its way. And as a result of English scrambling and mostly poor decisions from the ABs hot on attack we didnt convert those opportunities into try's which would have potentially broken open the match. However to Englands credit they minimised our points on the board and responded with a try and it was all on. And from there they just dominated the kicking battle and kept us pinned in our own territory and before our bench came on I was extremely worried. Our bench saved us especially Ratima for speeding things up, Fletcher Newall with his scrumming. And obviously BB who was in a class of his own. England struggled in the scrum we struggled with the lineout. The maul penalty at the end was a penalty but if not was held up anyway. And if they drew thats not unprecedented the Lions drew in 2017 at Eden Park. However to sum it up that was a very tough way to begin for Razor with how much our squad has depleted by ABs standards and how strong and well drilled England were that is without doubt the toughest start for any ABs coach in the professional era. Im stoked for Razor to survive it. And every single ABs fan knows it wasnt a case of us just being poor that English team played very very well. They will be gutted but at least you have a squad of players who you can believe that maybe something special is on the horizon in 4 years time. Looking forward to November. Razor you must be releived to have 3 test matches where most likely your heart wont be put under that sort of intensity. That test will be the most uncomfortable for him this season. Losing to SA in SA is forgivable. Ireland France and England at home is not tests we want to lose but not unheard of. If he lost that 30 yr record inntest 2 the public and media scrutiny would have been massive on him. Breath again Razor its time to experiment the picking players who have been there done that experiment worked. But that ABs team will not be good enough in 4 years time we all know it time to make some changes with alot less pressure on the side. I'll rate that series 8.5/10 great test match footy.
If you think about it many relay teams in athletes put their fastest runner to run the last leg to make up distance and overtake runners to win. Putting Beauden Barrett on in second half was a magic move and won the game for AB's. He had fresh legs and classy moves.
serious effort by England who are on the brink of being top contenders - showed a lots of guts and I think some of the ref calls went against them - lots to build on 👊
Will Collier has been comfortably the best scrummaging English TH for the last 3 years. 4 years younger than Dan Cole. Now gone to France. Massive wasted opportunity for England.
Another great video Tim. I can see you’re a bit upset. I was the same after Ireland’s loss last week. It can be dispiriting, especially when you feel you could have won.
Great video, as always. With regards to the fly half switch, I can only assume that SB sees Fin as his long-term 10 and is trying to get as much experience into him as possible. I see no other reason why you'd take off your starting fly half with the game still in the balance. Gutted we lost, but as a learning experience I think it's been a really positive tour. Also great to see Itoje back to his best and we need an alterntive back up 15 - Steward's too slow at this level.
Last maul decision was a good one by Ref. Lawrence clearly obstructed - full stop. England are better than I thought previously. They are the real deal now imo
England again, were a bit clueless on the second half. Up and unders were not working, but kept doing them.. .. they will feel gutted coz it was possible for them to win against a NZ that is still not top form.
Great meeting you Tim in Umhlanga last night - great having a Jäegermeister with you 😁- tough break with England - Keep up the great work- best Rugby Channel out there👍👍 - Go Bokke🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦
They will be disappointed as I genuinely felt at 50 minutes we were in with a shout. The benches made a huge difference, negatively for England with Dan only lasting seconds (hope he is ok). NZ bench made all the difference. Los of positives for England and they will be better for it, roll on the AIs. For me Rod, Steward, Stuart all lost ground and we need new props. Baxter was awesome BTW congrats to him and his family must be hugely proud… Long long season and the lads deserve a long break and I hope they get it… we continue to get better so lots to look forward to…🏴 oh and I think. Getting out into the community, good on you lads, great ambassadors for the country.
Great analysis Tim, as always. My notes at end: fatigue, scrum, bench. Blitz defence is knackering, as you said we were gassed. Scrum- yup. It's a big weakness. And bench- Borthwick is developing his squad, we don't have a world class 23...yet.
Standout performers for me were B.Barrett, Itoje (for 60mins), M.Smith and a brilliant performance for Baxter. You should be proud of your boys Tim! are England back?!?!?!
England are a serious threat! It was a game of inches. Unfortunately, ABs are only just getting started. That said… England have improved out of this world.
Sorry Tim the call on the mall was correct, it’s probably more that it’s something that seems to happen so often but is not penalised, which makes it seem a soft penalty. I have seen it happen so often in the super comp and not be penalised, I was surprised and pleased to see it called, it is one of the reasons why the driving line out mall can actually be an unfair advantage. It is good for rugby.
Totally agree that we won’t win these tight games until we sort our scrum out and get some sort of parity with the top teams. It cost us the semi final of the RWC and it’s cost us again in the last 2 games.
And so you should be disappointed Tim being that England is your team but your unbiased opinion and pro,s and con,s on both sides is what brings me here. Keep it up Tim from an ABs supporter
Nicely controlled for 60, marshalled by Smith who looks like a seasoned international 10 now. Prodding, steering and asking different questions. Itjoe and co putting big pressure on the lineout, But Barrett definitely changed the game with his vision against tired legs. Just brilliant. And as you say, scrums are still a weakness. Whose props can we poach? 😂 Happy with progress over the past 12-15 months. England's game is expanding and new players are stepping up like Furbank, Feyi-Waboso, Freeman and Baxter. I would like to see England going through phases quicker in the opposition's 22, hurrying/stretching defences. Forwards popping passes more, the likes of Earl coming into the line creating mismatches. Backs running straighter lines. Lots of room for improvement.
Nice one Tim. I'd be gutted as well in your place. Last quarter England played themselves out the game. Lineouts went to pot, lost a key scrum, but worst of all kicked possession away like 4 times on attack in the ABs half. Marcus Smith did well, overall Eng is a good place I'd say but missed a couple real opportunities on this tour. A small pronunciation guide - it's Um-shlung-ga, not um-hlanger
You encapsulated it all in your quote, "that's the beauty of rugby"...love your reports on our game...our div2 senior team made the semis this year, today..country rugby...brand new team, brand new coach, brand new season...NZ rugby is pretty healthy...rules, more rules and the poor ref trying to learn to interpret them...what could possibly go wrong?
Great showing from England. Ireland fan here. England played some magical rugby!! I think that call at the death was very suspect. I will be watching to see what Nigel Owen’s has to say about it in his weekly take. I was also miffed tat James Lowe’s try wasn’t given by a very suspect TMO call and was pleased Nigel called it out as a bad call. But onwards and upwards England!! You guys are up there and will only improve. Fair dues to Borthwick (something I didn’t think i would find myself saying) 😊
As a Kiwi, I have new found respect for England, the style of Rugby that England is playing is fantastic, one that us Kiwis like. Two tests you could have won. Lots to be positive about, great future for England
I think England lost both those games, the ABs were very lucky. A strong England is fantastic for world rugby. NZ have got quite a few issues they need to sort out as South Africa will destroy them.
@@Keza82 rubbish
Me too. They were good to watch. Marcus Smith seems like a breath of fresh air. Was Farrell holding them back in that last era? Their future is looking good.
Yeah, England running the ball from their own 22 is awesome to see after years of watching them trying to play as little Rugby as possible, I've been told their club teams were quite attack focused and it's good to see it creeping into their test rugby.
@@RubyDoobieScooThere are certainly more attack minded English clubs than there were a couple of years ago
Harlequins Bristol and Northampton in particular
Harlequins attacking approach you could say is down to Marcus Smith but in reality we have to give credit for that to the AB’s very own Nick Evans who having carved out a magnificent playing career with Quins is now doing the same as their attack coach and mentor to Marcus
Cortez on debut just before Beauden came on also had a considerable impact, by speeding things up at halfback
I'm glad someone else saw that!
Borthwick isreally shaping his team after the mess left by Eddie Jones. Top marks.
Not so obvious or special, but what we have seen twice from Razors ABs is a massive lift in discipline. Twice in the 3rd quarter being able to absorb pressure without dumb mistakes
Beauden Barrett was in a class of his own and made the difference. Looking forward to the Ireland 🇮🇪 v South Africa game.
Couldn`t agree more!
Agreed. Passing kicking and running was very impressive and changed the game. The combination of Ratima at halfback and B Barrett really sped up NZ’s play
Without Beauden (as a huge ABs fan from the UK), the ABs would have lost. The AB scrummage was awesome, but they need to win lineout ball and find a real answer to the rush defence.
probably would add the NZ scrum - Barret and scrum was the difference
The funny thing is he looked winded after every touch. A lot of heavy breathing. But his class really shone through.
The experience this new All Blacks team got from these brutality tough games that England gave them is going to pay huge dividends down the line. It’s the perfect start to a new era of All Blacks rugby.
The reason the 2010-2015 ABs were so good was because they had experience in extremely tough matches. The post 2015 ABs teams lost a lot of that experience and had too many blow out wins that didn’t really help them experience wise when they got into a tough match leading to loses in the real crunch matches.
Anyhow well done England for really turning up and playing well. A team on the rise.
Well said
Absolutely agree. Grinding out games like this is what wins World Cup finals. Sweeping end to end tries are great entertainment in between World cups but you need a different type of game to win the WC. And yes well done England for playing good, tough rugby.
Beauden Barrett coming on in the bomb squad discriminates against the forwards😭
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lol best comment!!
Good one.😂👍
LOL so unfair for the opposition
Excellent
Taking off Smith was the most stupid thing I have ever seen England do. Just stupid, from an Irishman
Not really
@@24hr_rugby_jake it was, Marcus was doing what Beuden came on and did. Tactical kicks and game management. Fin smith is not a bad player but the way Marcus was playing don't mess with him let him run the show. He was running like a quin and tearing things up and not afraid to take a risk.
I would use kinda words like tactical blunder but yes. It was a bad decision Marcus was bossing the match and kicking exceptionally esp tactical kicks
Maybe he could’ve taken steward off, fin on at 10 and move Marcus to 15
@@samuelmidzi8240 Marcus’s tactical kicks were mostly very meh. Fin smith can do all that as well, just didn’t really have a huge chance. Conceding penalties cost England. Also Marcus came back on for the last 10 and that didn’t change anything
Tim, your fair minded comments are much appreciated. I appreciate your acknowledgement of disappointment about England’s loss and at the same time how clear your analysis of the game remains. I see in the comments that some South Africans are referring to you as Egg Master. An elevation well deserved in the spirit of your love for the game, the players, the fans and coaching teams. And, your host country.
The Egg Master coronation happened live on air, at the Loftus beer and brandy field. 😅
He’d be much better if he actually talked about both teams evenly like a true rugby tragic would do
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By happy accident😂 you know?
@sonjabarnard2102 yes, starting with a crybaby take on the final maul where the officials got it 100% correct notwithstanding
Was at the game. When England got four up and were in complete control they tried to slow it right down and dictate the pace. Once the All Black bench came on and upped the tempo England couldn't stay with them. But the English needed to score a least one try when they were completely dominant and they couldn't.
@@tomsemmens6275 you are right. When a the game goes your way and you fail to score it is a huge victory for the other side.
Beauden Barrett, what a player!!🤝🔥 - a Boks fan here
Amen
You think he can't amaze you anymore than you've already seen and then he goes and plays like that.
His coming on changed the whole game dynamic in both of the games! Amazing player.
@@drumsandstix128Absolutely I thought England was tactically out playing New Zealand until he came on. He just showed his class
Christie to slow from the ruck
I’m so proud to be English after this series. Well done to our boys. The fact that there’s disappointment shows the progress that this team has made. Think back to the 2023 six nations and performances in the World Cup and the Italy and Wales games from this year. The progress since then has been great to see. Huge credit to Steve Borthwick and his team.
Agreed 💯
Agreed (from a one-eyed ABs supporter) 👍🏾💪🏽
Neutral here. England were 1 pt from making the world cup final and they beat Ireland in the 6N. I was expecting England to get at least one win from this series. This NZ side are building with a new management. Missed opportunity for England.
Tim. This England side is on the right track.
What an amazing performance by so many of them.
They had me rooting for them in the first half, and I hardly ever.
This is what's special about the All Blacks team. Victory from the jaws of defeat.
Form a Bok Supporter!
You all need to understand what the "aura" actually is. The 100+ years of play the full 80+ and stick to task, play what is in front of you and results will follow. The rest think it is luck. It is a failure to understand.
This is the best rugby channel Egg chasers no matter what team plays Tim gives a fair report enjoy our beautiful country South Africa ♥️♥️
I was only able to watch the second half but the change in the whole NZ side from almost panic to calm control after Beauden Barrett came on was palpable.
@@G33v3s agreed, also the speed of delivery from Ratima, made it way easier for his outsides. Christie is an OK journeyman at best. Ratima and Roigaurd are the future.
I really enjoy your calm approach even when your team has lost. The biggest lesson we can take from this series about the Razor ABs is that the team believe in their ability to close out tough matches, and damn, England are a tough team. Congratulations on an excellent performance in both tests.
1 hour after the game and you already have 6500 views. Shows we are all absolutely sitting here waiting for your posts Tim - me included. Top job son!!
Great game. Have to take some positives. England had a chance to win both games. The ceiling is high for them. Marcus Smith and Itoje were standouts. New Zealand were rusty but showed their class when it mattered. Beauden Barrett changed the momentum.
NZ fan, england were phenomenal, hats off. I think after both games, you've got to keep Marcus smith on, the team loses 10% when he comes off, itoje man of the match for mind. All Blacks just find a way on Eden Park. Great edge of the seat game. All these tight test matches aren't easy 😂on the fans!
Fair play to ya lad, Its hard to talk about a game when its been your home team defeated, especially when it was by fine margins such as this, you took it to the chin admirably.
What a match. I’m going to have to go on blood pressure medication after that. So pleased that Razor has got 2 wins but England are really good and could have won both matches. Cunning- Smith is a beast and I love watching Marcus Smith but Beauden Barrett was the difference. I’ll have to watch it on TV. England need to get that front row sorted.
Saturdays in South Africa is a Rugby day,you wake up with a breakfast of New Zealand home matches at 9am,followed by Australia home matches at 11am and then the Springboks at 5pm and close it with Argentina home matches at 9...our Saturdays are more entertaining then the rest of the world
lucky
Also, 2pm Portugal v Nam.
Probably prep the BBQ during that second one, you won't miss a lot
If you’re lucky enough to have electricity.
Honestly that sounds great! I wish it played out like that for us in NZ
ABs will be happy. Two games. Two wins. Not too bad on the injury front. The days of us just turning up and winning are over. Every test against the other big 4 nations (Boks, English, French, Irish) has to be earned. 2-0 got to be happy as an AB fan.
As an Englishman it was a great game AB had the much better scrum & until we can do better in that department we will always be second best. Well done & well deserved win for the All Blacks!
Aussie will be joining that group soon
A SPRINGBOK supporter. I think England a bit unlucky 🤔
@@ianjacobs2998100% mate
Fair
5 Reasons why England lost:
1.) NZ had the better scrum and 2.) experience on the bench. 3.) England kicked silly grubbers in the last quarter. 4.) Marcus smith should’ve stayed on longer. 5.) slippery Mark Telea.
I think another thing to point out england were more fatigued at the end which was another factor.
Think you've pretty well nailed it.
The grabbers from Slade were among me wince. Especially the one at 77 mins
Very good points, especially the scrum and the grubbers were critical.
Marcus smith created both tries, why did they sub him off 😂.
Sorry that the result bleaked you out brother. Can definitely hear it in your voice. That's why I say that I love rugby and I hate rugby because we love it so much and sometimes it breaks our hearts.
Ain’t that truth. Bleaker for some than others tho haha
Hi Tim, what really never ceases to amaze me is your unwavering impartiality and your sense for the greater picture and the beauty of the game. And I think that’s one of the main reasons why your channel is thriving as brilliantly as it does. As an English fan you must be really devastated and are still able to provide such neutral insights. Chapeau as the French say. Looking forward to your video about the second game of the Boks against Ireland. See you there. Tom 🇩🇪🇿🇦
Absolute class by Beauden Barrett. What a legend
We really missed Furbank. Steward was a notable step down, I presume due getting dropped and a lack of international game time. On the flip side Beauden was immense!
Proud of England. Congratulations NZ!
Steward at the top level doesn't have the dynamism for fullback, should make the move to 12 in my opinion, think he'd be good there.
Yes let move the best player in the air England have to a position were he never uses that skill.@@johnking2923
Steward is too slow, particularly on the turn, to be a world-class fallback. Agree, Furbank was a big miss, as was Marler.
His prowess under the high ball is nullified by his lack of speed in thought and the turn. The second try was partly down to him not trusting the inside defender
@@hefty105 who was the inside defender
I was supporting England. Oops, so close yet so far! Sorry Tim. Well done NZ. Barrett a phenomenal player. From South Africa. 🇿🇦
One thing not in doubt, Borthwick is one hell of a coach and (I really hate to say this) the RFU made the correct call to bring him in pre WC
Just came away having said this exact thing to my hubby. His jaw hit the ground that I was effectively eating my words... but when one is wrong, you're wrong.
This game and last week's were actually the only two games so far (as I give him a pass for the first 6 nations) where I think Borthwick let the team down. First game, changed it up at 55 - 60 minutes....and we gave away 6 pens in the last 20 and NZ dominated possession and territory....picks the same 23 (aside from injuries) and the same thing happens. And changing your 10 when he is having his best ever game in an England shirt is mental. When he came back on at 15 England started attacking again. And aside from Slade, Lawrence and I think Finn Smith who kept grubbing, could have recovered the draw.
great game! Beauden Barrett surely was man of the match, well done England, I did think we were going to lose there for a second. Until Beaudy came on hahaha Up the ABS!
Welcome to Durban, have a fabulous time this afternoon in the Shark Tank! ❤
Just after halftime I thought you had us, but Ratima and BB were the difference. Itoje was immense but totally gassed by the end. Not sure why England always takes Smith off early, he’s one of your best!
I tip my hat England! What a game! You are a Rising Force in World Rugby! Kia Kaha, Kia Maia, Kia Manawanui! Be Strong, Be Brave, Be Confident!
Do you really believe England will get better than NZ You are now 18 months in transition they are two weeks, do you think Ireland France and SA are going to get worse. In order to be a force you must first win England last 6 games lost 4 won 2 one against a 2nd tier nation.
@@davidwalker2402 England are good bro, and they’ll get better.
@@DavidSmith-yi8ou they are good but not any better than their world standings . There game was littered with many mistakes they had a real chance to beat NZ and couldn’t.
@@davidwalker2402 Yes I do. They have the Nucleus of a Great team.. Baxter, Martin CS, Earl. The return of Ford, Furbank Stewart! Watch out Twickernham!
@@korocam9137 they have but nothing shows they are better than any teams above them in the world rankings. You did have furbank last week but yes ford is a better player than Marcus smith , he made a really bad stab of a drop kick kept kicking ridiculous grubber kicks tackled badly. But got two super cross field kicks on target.
AB have been my one of my favorite teams over many years. Seem to have gone off the boil over the past 2 years, still winning though.
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Itoje was immense. Looking forward to the November rematch. Our ABs will be more finely tuned by then.
But gave away penalties which cost England the victory…
I thought Itoje was fantastic. Yes he gave away a series of penalties at the end, but for 60 minutes he was the best player on the pitch. Without Itoje it s arguable that NZ would have beaten England by a larger margin. Personally In hindsight I think there is an argument for Bortwick to have taken him off after 65 mins but without Itoje the All Blacks would have won by a larger margin
Well played NZ. From a Englishman. You still reign supreme ❤
I am a kiwi and I love the ABs…(“ Up the WAHS”) but England are a Great unit and definitely showed that they will compete against any Team, Hold your Heads high England you guys are building a Champion side ,I love the new fresh players in this team and the mindset u now have that tries and defence win games…In passing we as NZders sometimes become arrogant and full of ourselves in our comments and in our predictive score lines there was no blow out score lines only 2 evenly matched teams only separated by a moment of share brilliance(aka B.B) so let’s celebrate the Hard combative test series between to tough teams and as a AB supporter we need to be much better going Forward…Well done The English Rose see u for the return Match in Twickers.
I actually really like this team they went out of there way to enjoy and make the most of there time here in nz. Not to mention to try and become more likeable which was great. They were one or two moments from really winning both games. Safe travels home see you in london
On the last maul, if a penalty wasn't called ethier way. Beauden Barrett was under the ball over the line, would of been held up.
Nz looking scratchy and building but credit to England for game management and territory control.
You are also forgetting NZ missed two easy tries in the first half, with more time together they will score those.
Rewatch the last ruck, there were no All Blacks “diving at the legs of the English”. Love your passion though ❤️
Look again
Agreed. Tim needs to watch the disallowed James Lowe try from last week again too ... all the way back from when South Africa has the ball in the ruck, the ref was calling for Irish hands out the ruck, and then somehow the ball suspiciously came out on the Irish side, leading to that try. Better refereeing would have seen that immediately referred to the TMO instead of awarding the try and then having the TMO get involved to correct the mistake.
@@LittleBigMediaCo Rather that than watching a game where the ref ignores 60%(80% by NZ) of infringements, this refereeing performance really concerns ahead the championship. Pathetic performance.
Really looks like NZ are paying refs or someone
@@Papakadush😂😂😂😂boo hoo
Yep the ref watched it 4 times on the big screen and clearly said ‘I want to make sure we get this right’ . He had no problem with anything New Zealand did at the ruck. I never saw any diving at the feet of English players.
England deserved to win one of them at least. A lot of progress made by England.
A lot of progress made by yourself Tim. Creeping up towards 100K subs. Well done man
DESERVED how? They lost both games.
in sport you win or lose. England lost. Both
BB is one of the greatest. Can't think of any current players with a better top 2 inches.
Keeping BB on the bench for so long ... insane. What a player. One of the all time greats.
Beauden Barret, saved the All Blacks two weeks in a row by playing a "test match" territory game. Changing the ABs from the backfoot in their own half to playing in England's half.
Kicked out on the full with a mile of open space... made the difference by taking risks and not crabbing across field like DMAC
@@itistrue101 Talking S#!t
While England didn't scrum well, they did control the lineouts. Really should have won with the posession and territory advantage. Marcus Smith is a world class 10. Really surprising change as he was showing great control. Once again, as you said NZ in the last 20 have that ability to blow teams away and close this game out in style. Should also mention Ofa Tuangafasi coming on with Fletcher Newell and Asafa Amua to really punch that scrum advantage home. Well played England. Once again NZ just too good at home. See you at Twickenham.
Gutted! Winning is EVERYTHING!
ahhh so refreshing seeing the English lose 👀🇦🇺🦘🦘
Thanks for a great channel, greetings from south africa.... England have improved a lot, they are going to be a force to be reckoned with
Even at 75% the ABs are still good enough to win 🇳🇿
Enjoyed your wrap up Tim, appreciate your observations even though we barrack for different teams. Absolute thriller of a match. ABs won scrums but lost too many lineouts early on. Not much between the sides overall. Great to see Marcus Smith showing his class. Moments of brilliance from Beaudie. The initial call from the ref with the final maul was ball held up over the tryline, which looked to be right. So probably never a try but maybe England deserved a last chance with a 5 metre scrum.
It would've been a goal-line dropout. And time was up.
England to kick on & win the 6 Nations. Thank you for the knowledge & experience New Zealand.
Thank God a lot rode on this game love Razor I believe we will see a new style our style I'm excited england bought as we expected an amazing english style wow and you lost sorry happy sad for you yippee
Beauden is a rolls Royce of a rugby player, and was the difference in the end. ABs will get better, especially that line out, a struggle today. Already looking forward to the return match at Twickers in November.
See you in London, well played
You should be proud of England
But agree England needs a front row to contend at the top level, also I think England are a great touring team and can't wait have them back in NZ
I'm proud of our All Blacks who have alot of improvement ahead, but it will take awhile to get used to razors style of coaching but good times ahead, also really enjoying the content on the channel all the best 👍
I'm looking forward to Will Jordan and Cam Roigard coming back into this AB team. The team will only strengthen. Jordan is a rugby freak (meant in the kindest way). When he touches a rugby ball, things in a positive way for whatever team he is in, happens. He is just an elite level & highly skilled rugby player who always just seems to have time & always seems to create space. AB's always start slowly in a season and get much better as their season moves forward. Thanks, England, for a hard-fought series. Be proud! England are playing a good brand of rugby now. It bodes well for the future. This hard fought 2 match series will be good for both sides moving forward.
Great summary, Thanks..
Amazing series and England very very competitive after recent years. Missed Furbank so much, unfortunately Steward caught out too may times. Add Marler, Genge, Chessum from the bench and a different end to the game as Curry, Cole, and Coles really weakened the team. Young players, particularly Baxter, CCS, and IFW were excellent and future very bright
Genge needs to learn to scrummage …at least Cole can do that
Kiwi fan here. Firstly England were fantastic for two weeks in a row. Tbh the biggest dissapointment was that it's only a 2 test series.
I thought the ABs started hot especially mckenzie and we created 2 or 3 open breaks where it looked like a try was undeniably on its way. And as a result of English scrambling and mostly poor decisions from the ABs hot on attack we didnt convert those opportunities into try's which would have potentially broken open the match.
However to Englands credit they minimised our points on the board and responded with a try and it was all on. And from there they just dominated the kicking battle and kept us pinned in our own territory and before our bench came on I was extremely worried.
Our bench saved us especially Ratima for speeding things up, Fletcher Newall with his scrumming. And obviously BB who was in a class of his own.
England struggled in the scrum we struggled with the lineout.
The maul penalty at the end was a penalty but if not was held up anyway. And if they drew thats not unprecedented the Lions drew in 2017 at Eden Park.
However to sum it up that was a very tough way to begin for Razor with how much our squad has depleted by ABs standards and how strong and well drilled England were that is without doubt the toughest start for any ABs coach in the professional era.
Im stoked for Razor to survive it.
And every single ABs fan knows it wasnt a case of us just being poor that English team played very very well. They will be gutted but at least you have a squad of players who you can believe that maybe something special is on the horizon in 4 years time.
Looking forward to November. Razor you must be releived to have 3 test matches where most likely your heart wont be put under that sort of intensity.
That test will be the most uncomfortable for him this season. Losing to SA in SA is forgivable. Ireland France and England at home is not tests we want to lose but not unheard of. If he lost that 30 yr record inntest 2 the public and media scrutiny would have been massive on him.
Breath again Razor its time to experiment the picking players who have been there done that experiment worked. But that ABs team will not be good enough in 4 years time we all know it time to make some changes with alot less pressure on the side.
I'll rate that series 8.5/10 great test match footy.
If you think about it many relay teams in athletes put their fastest runner to run the last leg to make up distance and overtake runners to win. Putting Beauden Barrett on in second half was a magic move and won the game for AB's. He had fresh legs and classy moves.
serious effort by England who are on the brink of being top contenders - showed a lots of guts and I think some of the ref calls went against them - lots to build on 👊
Great game England, you are playing the way we kiwi's like.. hard luck u didn't win could have gone either way in both tests, not much in it 😊
Brother I 100% believed England were going to break the streak at Eden Park until Beaudy got on the field. Unreal
Keep your chin up Tim, and enjoy the rugby at Kingspark! You are an honorary South African now!
Tim keep us updated on the pre and after durban match shenanigans
Bursts of brilliance which kept an energetic Eng side to a loss! Eng didn’t want to extend when in front and that’s a sin against nz
Will Collier has been comfortably the best scrummaging English TH for the last 3 years. 4 years younger than Dan Cole. Now gone to France. Massive wasted opportunity for England.
the ball was held up in the end
Kiwi here. England all over us in that third quarter. Epic game. England were so close.
Nicely done All Blacks. Can not wait for NZ vs Bokke
Well said, a level headed call.
Great game, epic test match! England vs springboks in November is going to be a thriller
With hindsight, Steward off, M Smith to fullback, F Smith on Sleighthome on for Manni a bit earlier on in the game.🤔
Barret and Ratima switched up tthe game instantly
Another great video Tim. I can see you’re a bit upset. I was the same after Ireland’s loss last week. It can be dispiriting, especially when you feel you could have won.
Doesnt matter how improved we are as a new team we were still beaten by another team being rebuilt.
NZ can always find that extra gear
With a few notable exceptions…
Yeah, often they can.
Great video, as always.
With regards to the fly half switch, I can only assume that SB sees Fin as his long-term 10 and is trying to get as much experience into him as possible. I see no other reason why you'd take off your starting fly half with the game still in the balance.
Gutted we lost, but as a learning experience I think it's been a really positive tour.
Also great to see Itoje back to his best and we need an alterntive back up 15 - Steward's too slow at this level.
Ignore JK, just ignore him.
I do.
Lol. He's there for the clicks
Last maul decision was a good one by Ref. Lawrence clearly obstructed - full stop. England are better than I thought previously. They are the real deal now imo
England again, were a bit clueless on the second half. Up and unders were not working, but kept doing them.. .. they will feel gutted coz it was possible for them to win against a NZ that is still not top form.
Great meeting you Tim in Umhlanga last night - great having a Jäegermeister with you 😁- tough break with England - Keep up the great work- best Rugby Channel out there👍👍 - Go Bokke🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦
Love your unbiased review
They will be disappointed as I genuinely felt at 50 minutes we were in with a shout. The benches made a huge difference, negatively for England with Dan only lasting seconds (hope he is ok). NZ bench made all the difference. Los of positives for England and they will be better for it, roll on the AIs. For me Rod, Steward, Stuart all lost ground and we need new props. Baxter was awesome BTW congrats to him and his family must be hugely proud… Long long season and the lads deserve a long break and I hope they get it… we continue to get better so lots to look forward to…🏴 oh and I think. Getting out into the community, good on you lads, great ambassadors for the country.
Great analysis Tim, as always. My notes at end: fatigue, scrum, bench. Blitz defence is knackering, as you said we were gassed. Scrum- yup. It's a big weakness. And bench- Borthwick is developing his squad, we don't have a world class 23...yet.
Good game, all blacks improved over last week. Bench had huge impact, especially BB. Wow.
Standout performers for me were B.Barrett, Itoje (for 60mins), M.Smith and a brilliant performance for Baxter. You should be proud of your boys Tim! are England back?!?!?!
Thought the whole AB bench made a big difference. Fletcher Newell was a beast!
England are a serious threat! It was a game of inches. Unfortunately, ABs are only just getting started. That said… England have improved out of this world.
Enjoy the game, Tim. Wish I could be home to join you. Go Bokke!
Sorry Tim the call on the mall was correct, it’s probably more that it’s something that seems to happen so often but is not penalised, which makes it seem a soft penalty. I have seen it happen so often in the super comp and not be penalised, I was surprised and pleased to see it called, it is one of the reasons why the driving line out mall can actually be an unfair advantage. It is good for rugby.
Beauden Barrett. The reason we pulled through.
I think Ireland just called “can’t scrum, can’t win” into question 😝
Totally agree that we won’t win these tight games until we sort our scrum out and get some sort of parity with the top teams. It cost us the semi final of the RWC and it’s cost us again in the last 2 games.
Great game to watch and a useful tour for England but never going to win without a scrum
And so you should be disappointed Tim being that England is your team but your unbiased opinion and pro,s and con,s on both sides is what brings me here. Keep it up Tim from an ABs supporter
This England team is massively on the up - exciting stuff for sucha newly formed team. We'll get em at Twicks!
Yes, as a kiwi, I think you are right! We are hoping Razor's influence will change some of the perennial problems from Foster's reign.
Nicely controlled for 60, marshalled by Smith who looks like a seasoned international 10 now. Prodding, steering and asking different questions. Itjoe and co putting big pressure on the lineout, But Barrett definitely changed the game with his vision against tired legs. Just brilliant.
And as you say, scrums are still a weakness. Whose props can we poach? 😂
Happy with progress over the past 12-15 months. England's game is expanding and new players are stepping up like Furbank, Feyi-Waboso, Freeman and Baxter. I would like to see England going through phases quicker in the opposition's 22, hurrying/stretching defences. Forwards popping passes more, the likes of Earl coming into the line creating mismatches. Backs running straighter lines. Lots of room for improvement.
What a game eh bro 👀👀👀
Nice one Tim. I'd be gutted as well in your place. Last quarter England played themselves out the game. Lineouts went to pot, lost a key scrum, but worst of all kicked possession away like 4 times on attack in the ABs half. Marcus Smith did well, overall Eng is a good place I'd say but missed a couple real opportunities on this tour.
A small pronunciation guide - it's Um-shlung-ga, not um-hlanger
You encapsulated it all in your quote, "that's the beauty of rugby"...love your reports on our game...our div2 senior team made the semis this year, today..country rugby...brand new team, brand new coach, brand new season...NZ rugby is pretty healthy...rules, more rules and the poor ref trying to learn to interpret them...what could possibly go wrong?
Great showing from England. Ireland fan here. England played some magical rugby!! I think that call at the death was very suspect. I will be watching to see what Nigel Owen’s has to say about it in his weekly take. I was also miffed tat James Lowe’s try wasn’t given by a very suspect TMO call and was pleased Nigel called it out as a bad call. But onwards and upwards England!! You guys are up there and will only improve. Fair dues to Borthwick (something I didn’t think i would find myself saying) 😊