Why we might be alone in the universe | Max Tegmark and Lex Fridman
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Shout out to all the aliens wondering if THEY are alone in the universe.
Best comment of '21
Shout out to an alien getting stoned for the first time on some Mars OG sticky icky
@@TheChurchofCacti from alienlabs
Illegal?
Put illegal in front of every alien lol it's so much better
“We have to be humble - we have to be willing to acknowledge that everything we think is true might be very wrong.”
Thats humble? Lol. We're fucked if thats what we should consider as humble.
@@positronikiss Why does that automatically render us fucked lol? Knowing the truth can be a great thing.
@@omaisgee123 Because thats not being humble in my view, thats being chiefly scientific. Humbleness would be considering even pursuing science and acknowledge nonhuman existence biotic and abiotic before anything else.
@@positronikiss You gotta be humble, some alien or God or the universe could come along and be like, "Yo, that whole language thing you guys use? Yeah, it's actually way faster like this." Then they look at you in your eyes and you suddenly you speak in stars. Who knows what could happen, you certainly don't and neither do any of us; humility beats naivety
@@cheatswiz58 yeah thats what im saying and no, you certainly dont know if there are humans out there that know something normal folk like us cant even start to imagine.
We are either alone or so far apart that it’s the same.
Damn, that actually makes sense, where did you copy/paste it from?
It’s possible we have already seen signs of intelligent alien life, or even come into contact, but didn’t recognize it as “life”.
@@funtimes8296 like our buddy Eddie Bravo says: just look into it.. 😅🤣
@@Sonyetc I don't think he copied it directly but it's one of the ''solutions'' to the fermi paradox.
We are alone. The Aliens are alone too.
“The dinosaurs spent over 100 million years stomping around here without inventing smart phones” 🤣
The assumption being that smart phones are progress. But, are they? Looks like humans have no freaking chance to make it to 100 million years. So who's more intelligent?
@@paullawrencedotnet it’s still humans. But you’re right, the assumption that smart phone is progress is not inherently correct.
When smartphones came out, we literally had every piece of technology that was built in to them already, they did everything on a level not as good as their stand alone counterparts.
But they were packaged and sold as a convenience. People bought them, and they have single handedly destroyed the human attention span and memory in a decade.
@@SweetPappyJones Agreed. I live in Asia and I do not have a smart phone, and people look in awe and confusion at my old-school phone.. like I am a caveman. But I do not like the feeling of being surrounded by the internet at every moment. I wonder if there will ever be a mass reversal; like, people consciously choosing to use lower and lower tech. Doubt it, though.
Stupid dinosaurs
@@paullawrencedotnet A technological progress, dumbo. Not an evolutionary one.
You're not alone. I'm here.
OH SHIT HOW DID YOU GET IN HERE
@@thomasriding3194 Busted a window.
You too??? Whatsup dude!
Hold me. I’m scary
In this alone, together
Tegmark is a genius. He brings considered argument to every discussion. Great interview.
Can't speak too well though.
I've heard a couple of interviews with him in Swedish and he has difficulties expressing himself in his native language also. He has some sort of speech impediment and a limited vocabulary. He must definitely be on the autistic spectrum. @@justdynee
Man! Can you imagine this guy hosting a cooking show ? An hour later you still would not know what the meal was !!
thats the Show Iron Chef ;)
@@cristianproust Well they run the world so i guess getting to the point has it uses?
@@cristianproust And now are you are making it very hard to disagree with you! I will just add that a large proportion of the wealth of the world is in fact in American hands so it hardly requires much foreign collusion for the US to be a global terror state thought they do find collaborators everywhere.
@@cristianproust totally agree with you about America, and as an American. Anyone who thinks America is any form of real democracy isn't paying attention to objective reality.
The US is run by corporations and wealthy psychopaths. That's why we only ever get two shitty presidents to "choose" from, that's why most Americans live paycheck to paycheck, that's why our taxes are funneled into bailing out powerful corporations that don't even need any of it while paying their workers slave wages, you get the picture. The list just goes on and on. And what do Americans do when having that boot crush down on their throats? They lick the filth from the least filthy boot, rinse, and repeat.
However, in regard to what Max Tegmark was saying here, I still can't see how what he was saying builds any kind of case that we might be alone in the universe. Some of what he said even undermines that notion.
@@cristianproust are you literally arguing that gross wage stagnation in the midst of massive increases of production is because of technological advancement?
Is that also how you explain why Jeff Besos makes more in an hour than 80%+ of americans will in their entire lifetimes, literally, by doing nothing? You think he got there by any means other than exploitation?
But of course corporations don't make people poorer when those corporations have their hands in the pockets of politicians, cutting their taxes, deregulating, bailing themselves out with everyone else's valuable tax dollars, right? Of course corporations, the powerful, and the wealthy would *never* do something like cutting down the most basic cost of wages as low as possible just for more profit to someone(s) that already has 3 Bugattis and a mansion.
And when food banks have lines that stretch miles onto highways, that's people just telling themselves they "deserve" more, right? When the majority of Americans can't even get $2000 in emergency savings while working full time, they're really just comparing themselves to each other, right? And when the top cause of bankruptcy (and there's a LOT of bankruptcy) is simply medical bills, the working class is just being entitled when decrying that, right?
Oh wait, there's the small detail that literally all of history proves you wrong. Not to even mention modern data you can just google with that device you are typing on.
And I don't know what gated community you come from, but try going outside to see what's actually going on in the society that YOU benefit from, for fucks sake. Not only does the working class have to owe an arm and a leg into retirement to get an expertise education, but they also have to figure out how to fit that in with 2 full time jobs while barely keeping a roof overhead and food on the table. I would LOVE to see you try working 2 full time jobs, neither of which paying a living wage, provide for children, learn Mandarin, figure out how to fit sleep in, pursue a passion, AND remain sane. All while breaking even by the end of every month. Oh and if you have any significant medical condition, you and the rest of your family are completely screwed. And you can forget about being able to pay for any kind of chronic condition, so have fun with that the rest of your life.
This is all easily accessible, objectively true data. In fact you have to be in a bubble of pure propaganda to not know even some of this.
By the way, skinny doesn't equate to poverty, and fat doesn't equate to wealth. This isn't the 12th century. That's one you were supposed to learn in high school health class.
The best part of this is the irony of you saying "poor people can still learn things because of the glorious free market" while you get schooled by a REAL social democratic poor person.
But go ahead and try to argue that the existence of poverty is just "propaganda" and "eruption of Marxism" again. I'll be waiting to shred it with the ease of lifting a finger like the pathetic joke of an idea it is.
If you were a social democrat, not only would none of this need to be explained to you, but you would also know that social democracy is a Marxist ideology. Social democracy makes the market serve the ones participating in and literally creating the production of that market, rather than those who enrich themselves the most from it while doing the LEAST for it.
So which is it, are you that grossly ignorant about what you're saying, or did you think you could get away with lying to someone with research behind their claims?
Run along back to your silicon valley oligarch circle jerking or be an adult and do a little goddamn research to find even a little evidence support your pitifully weak high horse.
Love listening to max would watch one with him any time
over the billions of years that the universe has been around it is fairly unlikely that we are alive at the same time as another advanced civilization and we are close enough to come in contact with one another. The question is how many civilizations have been around in the previous 14 billion years prior to ourselves.
Infinite
While the universe is 13.8 billion years old, the first stars and galaxies were 100% Hydrogen. These 1st generation stars had to go supernova to spill out the more complex atoms of Carbon and Oxygen. Then even these new 2nd generation stars had to go supernova so that the galaxies could form 3rd generation stars that had the very complex atoms that could build planets. Earth may be in a system where the Sun is a 4th or 5th generation star. While simple life may be common, complex life, and advanced life like us, is very, very rare.
The universe have been inexistince for trillio trillion trillion year probably 10. to the trillion zero It is safe to assume that there could be a trillion civilazation in the vastness of the whole universe , imagine a universe whose space and time has no.beginnning.
He’s describing what we interpret as instinct and inspiration
meanwhile aliens are asking themselves the same thing
Lol n how u know this?
It also might be more common that life involves in water instead of above it on what is essentially mountain tops. Maybe more life evolves in all the various liquid states of the different planets. Maybe an octopus is the most abundant life form in the universe
I would make love to a mermaid then.
I think I read somewhere that crabs have evolved 5 distinct times on our planet. The universe might be filled with crabs.
Correct. Timing is everything. In all of space and time, intersection of coexisting organisms with culture, language, technology ,or any of the above etc... Unlikely, based on our observations, so far. Currently, it is incalculable. Speculation is fun.
We might be the first ones or just early
Unless they have managed to stick around for a LONG time...
But I also believe that a very small perentage maybe 1 or 2 % of all ufo sightings may be potentially an actual probe from elsewhere in the universe . Human beings could be indistinguishable from rocks to them
@@tomsytkowski3745 Maybe is all we've got, at the moment. It might be other humans... Might be humans from a previous epoch, etc. No telling.
Uhh not if certain beings exist in dimensions where time is not linear.
That thought is simply the most frightening thing i can imagine
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. People love quoting that line when it comes to religion, and rightfully so. When it comes to extraterrestrial civilizations, however, those same people get irrationally angry and assert that there must be tons of them out there. For me, the answer to the question will remain “nobody knows” until an extraterrestrial lands on Earth and makes open contact.
Exactly, until then, effectively we are alone. Deal with it.
There was evidence and it was proven that "tic tac' objects were not human made and were from somewhere else
@@tomsytkowski3745 Source: your ass.
@@tomsytkowski3745 link please or stfu
@@tomsytkowski3745 LOL!
Man looks like he's describing how big the fish he caught was while talking
The universe and life around you only happens from your own personal perspective no matter what life form you happen to be.
the most important theory Ive heard yet, because it just confirms what a lot of sages have been saying for centuries, Raise consciousness through meditation, wake up and see that everything we need is inside of us and on this planet.
I'd put my money on the hypothesis of the universe teeming with life, and versions of it we are unable to even imagine at this point in our existence.
Your money is vaporware like bitcoin
No...that’s platinum cash right there...I absolutely refuse to believe the universe magically appeared and produced one planet filled with mainly Morons and are the sole living beings in trillions of Miles of unending space...if that’s the case then humanity needs to be wiped out in the name of peace...😑
@@oculusnomadslosttribe5672 i hope he knows when when said a Planet filled with Morons, he is actually included.
@@zavierorlos1948 the level of ego on this guy crazy
so weird kinds of life that we would never guess that that is life.
thank you
We're not alone, we're being left alone, and with good reason. Earth is where the crazies' are.
We grew naturally more towards the center, but humans were destructive assholes, but they couldn't bear to eliminate us (music, art, etc), so they moved us to the edge of nowhere- no more damage! ...unless we manage to leave...
You don’t know that. Life can be more rare than you think. It could be that only one planet in every billion whole universes have life.
Are we alone in the universe? Yes. So there’s no other intelligent civilizations out there? No there are but they are alone too.
That’s deep!
This is like one of the most incoherent thing i ever read on the internet.
@@cristianproust Everything you said are speculations.
What you dont realise is the Pandera Box you are opening with it. I can then say that God is what you find on those others universe and he is always there. Do you understand what i just did? ... everything that is beyond our understanding, can be anything. We have facts and data, and that all tells us that we are alone in THIS universe. everything outside this universe is just speculation, where everything could be possible... even the existence of God.
@@cristianproust First of all... im not american. Im German.
Second... Im a Engineer
Third... who talked about Trump?
Are you ok? Im getting worried
@@zavierorlos1948 I think what the OP @Craig Scott is proposing is that 1. there are many intelligent civilisations out there and that 2. from the perspective of each of those civilisations they are “alone.” The idea is that intelligent civilisations are so widely separated in time and space that the chances of any 2 intelligent civilisations ever coming into contact is practically zero. Each will perceive that they are “alone.” What is “incoherent” about that?
Rogan would not last a whole episode with this guy!
@@fredriksvard2603 what are you talking about? Rogan had interviewed Sean Carroll, Brian Greene, Niel degrasse Tyson, lex.
he would keep saying "yeah, but...HAVE YOU SEEN THE TIC TAC UFO?"
Stop acting smart in RUclips comments. You douchebags dont have anymore answers about this subject than Joe does.
@@fredriksvard2603 then what are the answers smart guy? Explain the mysteries of the universe. What an ego you have.
@@justsomeguy4099 hey man take it easy! im not saying i have more answers than joe im just saying hes really obsessed with the tic tac ufo. i would even argue hes close minded in thinking its aliens. i think lex handles the subject much better. rogan would have stopped max and made him talk about ufos forever, might have even got heated like the crowder one, josh zepps one etc.
Glitch in the matrix @ 8:50 Just kidding but still, weird...
Why does this remind me of the Chris Farley interview skits on snl?
“Two possibilities exist: either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.”
I don’t know why but it feels more terrifying that we may be alone
Jesper Ekgren What here on Earth?
@@sirbaconbutties7071 no in the universe
@@sirbaconbutties7071 not that I think we are but if we would be all alone in the whole universe it’s terrifying to me.
Jesper Ekgren What if they are all around us at all times and the things that going bump in the night is really just them spying on us wearing their Harry Potter invisibility Cloaks laughing at how idiotic we are.
I shoulda been a scientist. I've been making this point for years. Contrary to Sagan, the arrogance is not that we think we are the only intelligent life in the universe. The arrogance is thinking there would not be a more advanced intelligence that would have made themselves detectable by now.
That reasoning has always irked me. It’s not “arrogant” to think that we might be alone. The people making this argument always act as if their opponents are beating their chest and screaming “YEEEEAH, FUCK YOU UNIVERSE. EARTH IS NUMBER 1, SUCK IT!”. Saying that Earth might be uniquely suited to life is no more arrogant than saying that you have unique fingerprints, or unique DNA.
The end of this segment was truly inspiring
It actually is, isn't it!
Of course, I'll forget about this in a day or two but for the moment anyway, it's kind of a beautifully humbling and inspirational thought...
As Max Planck states: "I regard Consciousness as fundamental and matter as derived from Consciousness. We are not alone but just do not recognize all the consciousness around us
and seem to think we live in a non-living Universe instead of a gigantic living organism with multi levels of consciousness. Modern science is stuck in the dark ages till they accept this.
And then it stops being science, instead assumptions. Anyway, thank you for bringing the attention to the Max Planck quote.
@@tomhummel2641 im afraid science cant solve existence biggest questions.. might as well philosophize on it lol
@@mikechrist9699 why or what is the meaning of something itself an absurd question. Why something exist or what is the meaning of it in itself is absurd and not possible to answered with fulfilling answer.
Such a stupid quote
How many planets have active cores versus how many that are not active?
"We are the only intelligent civilization"
Somebody hand me a prozac. Actually, give me the whole bottle.
This is better. Human race just activated biggest hero story
GET SUM WHOLE SALE TO B SURE
We elected Biden. The most senile and corrupt man in Washington, who is already helping corporations rob us and lurching toward war. Not very intelligent. And no, I didn't say Trump was better. It's just that given his entire history, Biden is absolutely Worse.
@@cybervigilante Juries still out on your first claim.
@@gps9715 Lol
Everything in this univers has its roll, we are made to reach out and use the resources to evolve and if thier is another intelligent planet out thier, then they are doing the same thing and have the same goal but if we are the first, we surely will not be the last
Some times I think the Universe is a form of intelligence. It has optimal communications with its self. It refines the future sheding the past, as shredding is not its goal. Seems that way but the over all picture is not seen yet. Earth is a shed of energy, a chalice, arc. There are many ancient names for this.
Two things worth thinking about, the extremely low probability of abiogenisis occurring even in ideal conditions, and even if it does occur, the liveliness that it creates a life form capable of advanced space exploration. The earth is teeming with life, without a doubt, over 8.7M species of plants and animals. But of them, only one species with the level of sentience required to harness resources effectively at scale. It's clearly arguable that we are an incredibly unique and uncommon animal species that lives far outside the normal resource equilibrium that all other animals seem to abide by. I'm frustrated that this fact never comes up in any of these discussions.
I just had the same talk with myself last night, minus the uniform log a priori. Creepy.
I have 1 question then. My sister and I were followed by a ufo in 1977 the three lights merged to one and it Shot off at least 10× faster then a shooting star, so my question is, where the hell did that come from.?
I believe what distance us from 👽 is habitatiual elements and organic differences that’s separate our species from communicating but not impossible to achieve ,DETERMINATION IS THE 🔑 TO LIFE
The fact nobody is coming for you, doesn't necessarily mean you are alone...
We are being monitored, by our 'big brother' something with knowledge of everything we know, and don't know.
Just like in real life
Exactly, as they say, the day is not quite done
@@sykokat so the government?
@@chrisg4305 maybe if they have knowlege from captured aliens, but mostly from a extraterrestrial force
Time is tied to Planetary Mass, knowledge grows inside of it. Applying knowledge transfers energy and pushes Time outward/forward.
Are they steps? Is it so atomistic and inductive or is everything inherently connected seamlessly and we just havent found the relationships? The paradigm of "western science" follows a very half added and inductive epistemology based on regularities that aren't regular.
Jaundiced Johnny Marr explains why The Smiths spilt.
The more complex and numerous the interactions, the higher likely hood, life will arise.
Inspired reasoning
Life is scarce on one hand. On the other, space is more vast than we can process. I think there could be an 'Alone' as in zero other advanced life- and there could be Alone in terms of distances, voids creating a practical, spatial isolation. It's like being in the middle of the arctic wilderness without any transportation. One could be Alone in terms of anyone finding you, or you reaching civilization. This could scale to the Milky Way and beyond.
I do think it might be wishful of us to assume there are advanced aliens that have conquered the laws of physics to such a degree that they can bridge the gaps. I include myself in that thinking.
Even if they can close the gaps, I imagine its still an resource-intense business. I mean, we have the techincal capability to send advanced probes to many planets and moons in the Solar system, and have had for quite some time. But what we have managed is to send some to our moon and two to Mars.
On that note, the first sign we would see of other civilisations should be autonomous probes, is my guess.
yes like civilization islands that develop independently that never see each
A galactic or intergalactic civilization won't need a particular planet to live on if they didn't want to. They would have technology, for example to extract energy from a star as their fuel.
They could use base elements to manufacture complex elements.
The thing about detection in my view is, are we asking the correct questions of the universe?
Standing on the beach looking out across the ocean with our eyes, can we see the fish beneath the surface? We need specific tools and filters to see them below the surface.
That was probably the worst analogy i've ever heard but good try😂😂😂
If there are lot of civilization in this galaxy, we can literally detect the construction like Dyson sphere and other stuff, extracting the energy.
@@Gingnose A classic Dyson Sphere would envelope the star entirely and absorb 100% of it's radiation for energy conversion.
@@ThexBorg good point, but you need to extract the energy which can be observed
@@Gingnose If the Dyson Sphere full encapsulates the star we may not see any evidence as the sphere may appear as dark as the background
Extracting energy/Stellar Lifting would easily be observed if the Dyson Sphere was not completely enclosing the star.
This might explain the over abundance of white and brown dwarf stars.
If we truly are alone in the universe, should we open up a bit more to there being a creator? or to the possibility that we live in a simulation? Even if life is rare, or an accident, with the trillions and trillions of circumstances that other solar systems have produced that are similar to the one that provides us life, there should be other forms of life out there. After all, life is just a bunch of chemical reactions right? There are trillions of circumstances life can exist in in the same conditions that we exist in, and if they don’t then how possible is it that we were put here on purpose?
To actually think that we are alone in this modern time is actually an ancient way of thinking.
Agreed....just in past 7 yrs alone it's highly accepted it is pretty much impossible for us to be alone. The slow drip feed is dripping at a faster rate
No, he did not say that we are alone, he saying that there's no civilization that progressed enough to exploring the space
Can easily play Lex on 1.75 speed and it still sounds natural.
✨✨ thanks
You're not alone. I'm here too.
Two thoughts, one, if we're alone in the universe that would most likely demonstrate a profound principle of the universe, one that might be at the nexus of science and philosophy. Two, if aliens are very advanced, then it might be the case that colonizing a galaxy might be as unpalatable as attempting to live in the middle of the ocean as a human being and simply none of them would do it.
Humans live on ships in the middle of the ocean
@@barobaro1 My point exactly. Why would you want more of this primitive existence?
I hope we're alone, wouldn't it be embarrassing to meet anybody else? Wouldn't they just want our stuff?
The universe is all the same stuff, they dont want any of ours lol
Just like if the Earth gets unhabitable do we genetically manipulate the human genome to splice with let say a sea life or some other similar biology species for us to survive 50,000 years in a totally different environment?
The only way it would make sense for us to be alone is if it was a simulation other than that there’s life out there!!!!
Not a simulation, a dream.
Two of the Great People, in my Little Book of Great People.
I wonder if Tegmark studied Bohm's Implicate Order theories. The real action takes place outside of space and time where mathematics cannot ever go.
Just for the sake of argument, let's assume we are alone in the Universe. Isn't that assumption the direct result of the yearning that there actually were other life in the Universe precisely because we don't want to feel alone? Think about it deeply.
Think of it this way, isn't infinity also so hard to comprehend because what you are afraid of is that the Universe might in fact be finite, which is why you always refuse to stop thinking about what is beyond the known outter limit, instead of merely accepting that beyond the finite edges of the observable universe be absolutely nothing at all (which in essence points out that what we truly don't understand is finitiness).
It's important to understand where questions come from, because they reveal more about our innate intuition than we think. And therein lie many answers. We are wiser than we know.
We might be alone in the universe but, given how things are going, it's more likely that we'll just die out before anyone finds us, or vice versa.
I doubt that we'll die out, some of the humans will survive even all nuclear bombs were used, because humans are ubiquitous in this globe. And even far future we'll likely to be multiplanetary species and that will make extinction much less likely.
If it’s true that 99% of species that have existed on earth are now extinct, it may be that extinction is just the normal outcome for all species including ours. And if that were to happen, the earth would continue to spin without us. We humans are relevant to ourselves, but not to the universe.
@@clarino2 - Given trending here on Earth, I wonder how many civilizations have really nothing left of them except for the AI that they left behind, and if that might be the prevailing surviving form of intelligence in the galaxy/universe. The support requirements for any kind of biomechanics is a big vulnerability/disadvantage in the end.
It's quite interesting to hear, that Tagmark - a proponent of the "Many Worlds" interpretation of quantum mechanics - has any kind of answer to that question. In "Many Worlds" the wave function does not collapse but merges with our own as we become entangled with one observed state of a quantum system. Thus, entanlgement's role is maintaining consistent world histories. That also means, that intelligent life both exists and doesn't exist in the solar system of our very next neighbour, until we can thouroughly observe it. So far we didn't do that so the existence of intelligent life in our galaxy is totally in a superposition. The same applies to the other civilization - which surely exists in one of the infinite "many worlds" - : from their perspective Earth is in a superposition of being completely barren, being inhabited by some lower level life (like dinosaurs that didn't go extinct) to being overpopulated with humans, just as we experience.
Wow that was tough to follow or listen too! I doubt were alone..
People need to read more Orson Scott Card: when we meet intelligent alien life, it is possible we may not recognize it as being alive.
Doctor Who did some episodes on that theme years ago.
There are countless human beings right now that are alone in universe.Maybe we should focus our intellectual efforts and resources in helping them find a compassionate civilization near them.
We aren't alone. There's thousands and thousands of intelligent species right here on earth
Maybe we should start to care more about these species on our planet then worrying about life from distant galaxies that we will probably never meet or know exist
@@robertmorici8605 well spoken
Well, put it this way. Until further notice, it IS up to us.
Max Tegmark is most likely right. We're alone. And if "they are there, they're alone as well.
If you're trying to communicate w something located 5 billion lightyears away remember that you're currently receiving information from 5 billion years ago, but also it's been moving away from there for 5 billion years. If you send communications right now to where you think it will end up in 5 billions years, then you have to wait for a response from them in 5 billion years from when they receive the communication if they properly calculated where we will end up in 5 billion years.
One of the interesting things about human technology and human cognitive evolution, is that there HAVE been plateaus. We haven't spent millions of years on ham radios, but we HAVE spent millions of years on stone tools. Technological innovations in the stone age were comparatively few and far between, compared with the relative explosion that followed the agricultural revolution.
Theres unmistakable progress during the plataeus thoguh... In those early days technology progress is waiting for our brains to grow bigger, which does with every succcesive generation
@@kienlou2945 that's precisely my point
Oh is it? They are saying that civilizations dont last long in this current technological phaze we are in... Which may be true.. Plataeus also happen though.. I guess that when our brains and technology was in the stone age.. There was just no capability to evolve tech till the brains got bigger.. Later on with better reasoning, humans slowly grasps science and accumulate machine tools and tech accelerates. Industrial platuea lasted 200 years maybe? Then with computers invented,.. Its another accelerated growth period, when AI becomes very sophisticated there will be another explosive acceleration.. The plataeus are lasting shorter and shorter because we have built 'brains' that have no end in sight in rate of improvement it seems
We can speculate all we want but will only know when we know either way.
Crunch the numbers, take a statistics course. We were never alone.
I'm guessing the reason that we hope there are ETs is because we know we are screwing up big time here on earth. And, we like to think that if we destroy ourselves, the universe will not be empty of all consciousness, to be aware of the universe's existence; to appreciate it. But if we are the only ones in the universe, then the burden falls solely on us to survive, to be the consciousness, to be the custodians of the universe. We become the Essence of the universe.
Dope
I believe there is ZERO chance we are alone in the galaxy
We will never see aliens or make physical contact with them but we might make contact with them through radio signals
It might be that most life in our universe is actually contained in the higher dimensions
It is statistically impossible for us to be the only ones in the entire universe
Unless we explore more planets and objects , there is no meaning to statistics. Right know we only know of one planet that did rise to life, and thats us. It could be either bacterias everywhere or empty space all around.
Thats an erroneous statement. You should have said "it is statiscally improbable", though I wouldnt agree with that assertion either. As we discover and map more and more universe, unknown space is shrinking (whether in a finite or infinite universe model), and yet no external life has been detected. So the probability trend is toward us being the only life.
And from a religious perspective, I am comfortable with the notion of us being the only created beings. In fact, it puts us center stage. I don't need to invent alien civilizations to satisfy probability nor stave off fear of isolation (which I believe to be the two main reasons people insist on making those assertions).
Be good stewards. Don't be lazy. You have responsibilities. You are special.
Some of the videos would be more interesting if there was a short bio of the guest. Some I know, but some I have no clue of. It shouldn’t be up to the viewer to do a search. I skip over some videos, because I don’t know if the guest is interesting or not..
Hardly alone, there's 7bn of us and we are surrounded by millions of other species.
Cant wait for the James Webb Telescope.
if earth time and earth gravity are necessary components of the perception and participation of our physical reality then we, and everything else here only exist in that bubble of perception. the evolution of our consciousness will allow us to participate in the frequency of the cosmos. plant technology guides us inwards to travel between the stars ..
Think! We are _absolutely_ alone. But that does not mean we are not observed.
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Life is a framework in planetary evolution. Once humanity started looking towards the stars, we started exploring. Manifest destiny.
He doesn't get the distances are staggeringly far.
If humans have any exclusivity amongst sentient creatures in the universe it is likely our capacity for hubrice, not existence. If the possibility of life it woven into the fabric of the universe, then life's manifestation is inevitable, not possible.
Only we could look at a vast infinity of space and say.... hm were probably the only thing out there that has developed higher intellect. The sheer hubris it would require to wvwn approach a subject.
We don't have the technology to detect small objects like a spaceship in other star systems. That's why we don't see spaceships flying around when we look through the telescope. They would be too far and small to see anyway. All we can see at such great distances are stars and things lit up by stars such as massive gas/dust clouds.
But we do see space ships, there is tons and tons of footage from NASA's live feeds outside the earth's atmosphere of unidentified craft. The most compelling evidence being the tic tac video from right here in our own skies. Crafts in other star systems remains to be seen
@@CTelKing I'm talking about detecting small objects in other solar systems. Not our own. I was addressing the point Lex's guest made in the video about why we don't see spaceships flying around the galaxy.
I have theory of empowerment. The understanding of understanding
We have to act as if we are the only life in the Universe and seed the galaxies with benevolence and take pride in caring for this unique Ball of rock we call Earth.To do less than that is suicidal.
He sounds unsure. We are definitely NOT alone in this universe.
Alone in the solar system, but alone in the universe is absurd, alone in the galaxy is absurd as well. There are billions of solar systems in the galaxy, and the universe has god knows how many galaxies with solar systems supporting life.
He assumes that atleast 1 of the potential millions of civilizations would venture out to discover other life forms and since we haven't met them there must not be any civilizations. However he fails to consider that the civilizations that do venture out may have the necessary tech to stay hidden.
So the point of staying hidden is?
why did you assume that all the millions of civilization will use the hidden technology, and even have access to it?
there are two possibilities. We are the first or we are the last In our galaxy.
The answer to Fermi's paradox: The Chinese have already set up a quantum computer network including a satellite. If civilizations only use radio for 100 years then advance to quantum communication, the time-windows during which any of them would intersect with another window, and detect radio signals is infinitesimal during the tens of thousands of years an advanced, non-warlike civilization (the warlike ones having destroyed themselves) would exist. Do the math. And of course, the Navy UFO sightings by experienced pilots and radar operators were a tiny chip off a giant iceberg of videos and sightings yet not reported, or minimized.
Man, this topic is over & done with. If you know anything about statistics alone (leaving out all of the piles of evidence) you would know that the mire thought that humans are the only life forms in this universe. Hell, may not even be the only in this solar system.
I don't think so.
Other civilizations are smart enough to keep quiet. The universe may be far scarier than we can imagine. Meanwhile, Howdy Doody has been blasting into the void for 75 years.
I've seen a map which shows just how far our radio waves have traveled through space. Which would be the furthest evidence of our existence to other sentient life forms. And the distance of those radio waves only amount to a mere pinprick on a huge map.
@@HidingFromFate Of course. The universe is an unimaginably huge place. Still, there’s an estimated 14,600 star systems within 100 light years of us.
@@graymatters7584 fair enough, point taken.
Are these (not just lex but all podcasters) little snippets of a podcast produced just to pull in as much coin as possible from each guest ie more views etc??
Somebody has to be 1st. Say that it takes a million years for a civilization to just get to where we are now...well for at least a millions they are going to think they are alone. Maybe we just happen to be 1st in our galaxy to advance this far. Give us a million years and ask that question again.
There is little to validate other unseen entities. I'm sure they have heard of camo.
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